Orange walks

[Billy Whizz]

Glad I don’t live in Glasgow today. Hope the police are filming all this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58586533

[Pagan Hibernia]

“We are not an organisation that is anti-anything”

:greengrin

im devastatingly hungover this morning but that’s given me a right good giggle

[ronaldo7]

Glad I don’t live in Glasgow today. Hope the police are filming all this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58586533

Can we not just skip the marching, and just get to the part where the woman urinate in the streets, and the guys get into a mass pagger.

[One Day Soon]

Refreshing to have a senior police officer - a senior anybody in Scotland in fact - speak out about the level of sectarian disease we have in this country.

Football could and should be leading the way on this stuff and if we had major football-associated figures speaking out on it in the way that Lineker did on racism during the Euros it would be a significant help in preventing the issue being blind-eyed whenever it comes to the fore.

When a police officer with experience of serving in Belfast for 27 years states that they are surprised by the level of it in some parts here I’d say we have a serious problem. The conspiracy of inaction between our government, our politicians and our major institutions to leave it in the ‘too difficult to tackle’ box is a national disgrace.

[Bishop Hibee]

Let’s be clear, these marches aren’t ‘sectarian’ they are anti Catholic and more specifically anti Irish-Scots Catholics. A start would be rerouting them away from Roman Catholic Churches but Glasgow Council and Police Scotland couldn’t even do that.

[Smartie]

Every now and again Scotland has me checking what the date actually is.

Pointless drivel that is centuries past being relevant and tbh it’s an embarrassment to all of us that it still exists.

[weecounty hibby]

Regardless of your religion or if you have none. Every right minded person in Scotland should be embarrassed and angry that these people are free to march spouting their racist bile. Can you imagine if it was anti Muslim or Jew? Would never happen and rightly so. Why are we forced to accept it? At least some top police are now starting to question it. Need more politicians, civic leaders, celebs etc to start condemning it too.

[One Day Soon]

Every now and again Scotland has me checking what the date actually is.

Pointless drivel that is centuries past being relevant and tbh it’s an embarrassment to all of us that it still exists.

There’s certainly an element of some people wanting to take us back to the 1950s while others seem happier tolerating the feel of the 1590s.

[Sylar]

Im glad it only appears to be Glasgow that’s suffered from these Medieval marches. Covid-19 has done us a favour in that sense.

Though it’s a shame, as I have a ready made metalcore/deathcore playlist good to go if I get stuck in traffic because of these things!

[DaveF]

The conspiracy of inaction between our government, our politicians and our major institutions to leave it in the ‘too difficult to tackle’ box is a national disgrace.

Spot on. A national disgrace indeed.

[ABZHFC]

Might be a silly question but there’s none in Edinburgh today are there? Getting the bus to the game and can’t be arsed seeing one

[CMurdoch]

Leading on from last years non marching.
This year would have been a good opportunity to have reduced the number of marches.
Thin end of the wedge and gradually shut them down in succeeding years.
Should also hold the marches in February.

[Bostonhibby]

Every now and again Scotland has me checking what the date actually is.

Pointless drivel that is centuries past being relevant and tbh it’s an embarrassment to all of us that it still exists.Yep, we used to chuck stones and potatoes at them in the 60's and I see no reason why this tradition shouldn't also continue.



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[Hibrandenburg]

I'm baffled at how it can be even nearly socially acceptable in 2021 to celebrate religious bigotry. Why the Scottish government tolerates this hate fest is beyond me, it's not as if they'd be alienating their core support.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58608676

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/racist-and-sectarian-singing-at-orange-marches-condemned-by-police

Hopefully lots of CCTV footage.


Glasgow City Council has the power to alter a parade's route or timing but has opted not to do so. A spokesman for the council said the parades would be "more disruptive to the life of the city" if they took an alternative route.

Has it occured to you that NO MARCH would be LESS disruptive?

[Moulin Yarns]

The conspiracy of inaction between our government, our politicians and our major institutions to leave it in the ‘too difficult to tackle’ box is a national disgrace.

Did you miss the ill fated 2012 'Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012)' which the opposition parties scuppered? It aybe wasn't perfect, but you can't claim there was inaction!!

[Pretty Boy]

Some fat ******* banging a big drum extra hard to intimidate pensioners at a Saturday Mass.

Why not just stick a badge on saying 'I have a really tiny willy' and cut out the marching part?

[cabbageandribs1875]

'Racist and sectarian' singing at Orange marches condemned by police - STV News (https://news.stv.tv/west-central/racist-and-sectarian-singing-at-orange-marches-condemned-by-police?top)


Outbreaks of “racist and sectarian singing” by people taking part in Orange Order processions through Glasgow have been condemned by police.
Officers made several arrests as 5000 people marched in the city on Saturday.


vile sectarian sc*m, i'm ashamed to be a protestant on days like this :agree:

[One Day Soon]

Some fat ******* banging a big drum extra hard to intimidate pensioners at a Saturday Mass.

Why not just stick a badge on saying 'I have a really tiny willy' and cut out the marching part?

:agree: spot on

[Just Alf]

It's horrendous, OK I get that the authorities don't want to stop people "celebrating" their faith or whatever, but it should be made really, really clear , one bit of bigotry towards someone else faith means that particular march is banned the following year... let the march happen the year after and if there's a repeat then that's it... no more march. End of.

[Pretty Boy]

'Racist and sectarian' singing at Orange marches condemned by police - STV News (https://news.stv.tv/west-central/racist-and-sectarian-singing-at-orange-marches-condemned-by-police?top)


Outbreaks of “racist and sectarian singing” by people taking part in Orange Order processions through Glasgow have been condemned by police.
Officers made several arrests as 5000 people marched in the city on Saturday.


vile sectarian sc*m, i'm ashamed to be a protestant on days like this :agree:

Why?

Orangeism has little to do with Protestantism in the theological sense. It's a fraternal organisation for bigots. The CoS increasingly wants nothing to do with them and they continue to pursue a more cooperative approach with the Catholic Church in Scotland.

The OO dislike the wrong types of Protestant as much as they aren't massively into Catholicism. Actual Kirk attending Christians have little to be ashamed about when it comes to the shower parading about today.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I am perhaps being unfair or cynical, but when I see organisations like this who have a fancy dress costume that you can condense into a simple but sinister trademark, it makes me think of the KKK and the National Socialists before peaceful people celebrating their heritage.

[Sir David Gray]

Why?

Orangeism has little to do with Protestantism in the theological sense. It's a fraternal organisation for bigots. The CoS increasingly wants nothing to do with them and they continue to pursue a more cooperative approach with the Catholic Church in Scotland.

The OO dislike the wrong types of Protestant as much as they aren't massively into Catholicism. Actual Kirk attending Christians have little to be ashamed about when it comes to the shower parading about today.

:agree: I was raised in the Church of Scotland and do not feel any personal shame about what happened today.

Having said that the fact that these Orange Walks are still taking place in 2021 is an embarrassment to Scotland.

[Bostonhibby]

Some fat ******* banging a big drum extra hard to intimidate pensioners at a Saturday Mass.

Why not just stick a badge on saying 'I have a really tiny willy' and cut out the marching part?See above re stones and potatoes [emoji6]



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[Kato]

The Orange Order has said there had been parades in Glasgow for 200 years with "very, very little trouble".
It insisted the group's was not anti-Catholic.


Wood doesn't burn and fish can't swim according to this lot.

[Glory Lurker]

Does it ever rain on their parades?

[Killiehibbie]

Does it ever rain on their parades?

I've heard it's been know to piss down gardyloo
style from upstairs windows.

[heretoday]

We're going to have a huge problem with these people come independence.

[Bristolhibby]

We're going to have a huge problem with these people come independence.

I hear Belfast is lovely.

Seriously, their power will wane post independence (partially why they are so anti independence).

J

[hibsbollah]

I hear Belfast is lovely.

Seriously, their power will wane post independence (partially why they are so anti independence).

J

Why would it? I think they would just get more militant and outspoken.

[JimBHibees]

Why would it? I think they would just get more militant and outspoken.

Undoubtedly did one of their senior guys not make some comment about bearing arms if we were to leave the union.

[Pretty Boy]

From the Church of Scotland on Twitter:

1) “The Church of Scotland opposes anti-Catholic bigotry and sectarianism.

“We have a very close working relationship with the Roman Catholic Church.

2) “Over the years we have worked together to tackle sectarianism and support one another.

“We speak to leaders in the Roman Catholic Church every week and greatly appreciate the friendship that exists between our churches and our communities.” #Glasgow

It's not gone down well with the Orange waddlers.

[lapsedhibee]

Orange waddlers
:greengrin

[heretoday]

Undoubtedly did one of their senior guys not make some comment about bearing arms if we were to leave the union.

I think they would become more high profile. They might even stand for election.
There will be huge pro-union action following independence and I'd expect the Orange Order to be a part of it.

[Bostonhibby]

Undoubtedly did one of their senior guys not make some comment about bearing arms if we were to leave the union.They'd look even more ridiculous if they ripped the sleeves of those very smart jackets they wear but if that's what floats their boats, bare arms it is.

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[Lendo]

Undoubtedly did one of their senior guys not make some comment about bearing arms if we were to leave the union.

There was a hilarious (sadly closed) thread on Follow Follow about Rangers fans taking up arms to fight a civil war against the SNP.

[Bostonhibby]

There was a hilarious (sadly closed) thread on Follow Follow about Rangers fans taking up arms to fight a civil war against the SNP.Take up arms?[emoji23][emoji23]

Got to be more realistic than being terrified by exuberant Hibbies shouting at them from the pitch at hampden.

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[Speedy]

Saw a tweet with an orange walk and some guy sitting in his car playing a song that, let's say, isn't in the songbook. Few words exchanged, boy in the car gets a punch in the face and on goes the march.

Hard to say who comes off as the biggest trumpet! (pun intented)

[Hibernia&Alba]

Let’s be clear, these marches aren’t ‘sectarian’ they are anti Catholic and more specifically anti Irish-Scots Catholics. A start would be rerouting them away from Roman Catholic Churches but Glasgow Council and Police Scotland couldn’t even do that.

Indeed, BH, everyone knows what the OO is about: triumphalism and provocation. It's the 'this is oor Protestant country' mentality. The OO doesn't represent the majority of Scottish Protestants, most of whom want nothing to do with them. They provide an outlet for the hardline bigots and their supporters to take to the streets. We all know the score, especially those of us raised Catholic in central Scotland. We've all seen them deliberately stopping outside of chapels on their route and deliberately playing their most provocative songs at full volume, often whilst Mass is being held.

I have no problem with their right to parade. I do have a problem when they so in a deliberately provocative and sectarian manner.

[Hibernia&Alba]

There was a hilarious (sadly closed) thread on Follow Follow about Rangers fans taking up arms to fight a civil war against the SNP.

The most 'loyal' advocating terrorism?

[Hibernia&Alba]

Some fat ******* banging a big drum extra hard to intimidate pensioners at a Saturday Mass.

Why not just stick a badge on saying 'I have a really tiny willy' and cut out the marching part?

As I said above, completely planned and intentional to coincide with Mass. Appalling.

[CMurdoch]

As I said above, completely planned and intentional to coincide with Mass. Appalling.

Could the members of the church not just change Mass time and thus throw the numpties out of sync leaving them making a noise outside an empty church?

[JimBHibees]

From the Church of Scotland on Twitter:

1) “The Church of Scotland opposes anti-Catholic bigotry and sectarianism.

“We have a very close working relationship with the Roman Catholic Church.

2) “Over the years we have worked together to tackle sectarianism and support one another.

“We speak to leaders in the Roman Catholic Church every week and greatly appreciate the friendship that exists between our churches and our communities.” #Glasgow

It's not gone down well with the Orange waddlers.

That is brilliant to see that sort of statement.

[heretoday]

That is brilliant to see that sort of statement.

It's the "butter wouldn't melt" sort of stuff the orangemen always come out with. The only response is to challenge it vehemently and frequently.