No tickets for Ibrox

[B.H.F.C]

No great surprise, but just had an email from the Ticket Office to confirm we’re not getting any tickets.

Another reason to dislike them.

[Billy Whizz]

No great surprise, but just had an email from the Ticket Office to confirm we’re not getting any tickets.

Another reason to dislike them.

Me too, will save me £30 though

[Oscar T Grouch]

Just got the email too. Pretty upset that they cannot squeeze the 900 of us in. Hopefully changes for the next game there.

[JXM73]

If only we could fill our own stadium, could tell them to bolt later in the season...

[neil7908]

Joke of a club

[HibeeHibernian4]

Why are they just allowed to do stuff like this? I don't just mean Rangers. The idiotic bodies who demand nonsense concepts like red zones share as much of the blame.

[Smartie]

If only we could fill our own stadium, could tell them to bolt later in the season...

They should be told to bolt regardless…

[JammyDoidger]

Who do these glasgow clubs think they are? How is this even allowed. We need to do the same to them, keep their money, hibs fans need to step up this time though and sell it out, or donate the price of a ticket to make up for it.

Also just seen that Neil lennon and chris Sutton have been told they can't go to Ibrox tonight for security reasons to do punditry work on the game, Absoloutely disgusting, how do these wet wipes keep getting away with this. They should be fined.

[Hermit Crab]

Will probably be the same for Celtic away in December as well.

[660]

Horrible Hun cretins

[Hermit Crab]

Who do these glasgow clubs think they are? How is this even allowed. We need to do the same to them, keep their money, hibs fans need to step up this time though and sell it out, or donate the price of a ticket to make up for it.

Also just seen that Neil lennon and chris Sutton have been told they can't go to Ibrox tonight for security reasons to do punditry work on the game, Absoloutely disgusting, how do these wet wipes keep getting away with this. They should be fined.


Theres no minimum allocation for league games. Clubs don't have to give us any tickets at all.

[Hermit Crab]

Games not even on the tv, it Aberdeen v Celtic thats the live game that day.

[BegbieHSC]

Well that’s that then. Give the Huns and Celtc nothing at Easter Road. We don’t need their money! Charge them a PPV, but that’s it!

[Hermit Crab]

Well that’s that then. Give the Huns and Celtc nothing at Easter Road. We don’t need their money! Charge them a PPV, but that’s it!


Not going to happen eh.

[.Sean.]

It’s absolutely imperative we return the ‘favour’ and sell out the four stands on our own when they visit.

[hibbysam]

Well that’s that then. Give the Huns and Celtc nothing at Easter Road. We don’t need their money! Charge them a PPV, but that’s it!

Will be interesting to see if money is more important to morals from our board. Marketed correctly then the club could easily sell a home game out against them. Unfortunately we all know the outcome of it though.

[Billy Whizz]

They are both at it
Rangers have around 45,000 season ticket holders, in a 50,000 capacity stadium
Celtic have around 50,000 season ticket holders in a 60,000 capacity
The red zone at ER cant me more than 800, so some space for a small number of Hibs fans. They just can’t be bothered with us, and extra security as well
I’m hoping from Ron downwards, all the Hibs directors refuse to go to Ibrox

[Hermit Crab]

It’s absolutely imperative we return the ‘favour’ and sell out the four stands on our own when they visit.


Never, ever going to happen. Pie in the sky stuff that I'm afraid.

[Blaster]

It’s absolutely imperative we return the ‘favour’ and sell out the four stands on our own when they visit.

We’ll be lucky to sell our 3 unfortunately. Midweek game likely on the telly

I like the idea but we can’t afford to knock back over £75k

[hibbysam]

We’ll be lucky to sell our 3 unfortunately. Midweek game likely on the telly

I like the idea but we can’t afford to knock back over £75k

We can, we just choose not to.

[weecounty hibby]

Tell them to **** off when they next come to ER. We should be doing everything we can to stop them coming. If it's down to money then I would be happy to see tickets sold cheaper to encourage take up from Hibbies regardless of what that looks like for my season ticket value, in fact I would probably pay for a ticket over and above my ST for this particular game. **** them. Hibs and other clubs need to stand up to these *******s. Stop letting them dictate what happens, let's grow a set as a club and tell them to bolt

[davhibby]

They’ve obviously realised Celtic are getting away with it without consequence. The clubs should be going to the SPFL about it. There were thousands of empty seats at Celtic Park at the weekend and no space for 100 Ross County fans

[Sir David Gray]

I really wish we had some wealthy fan who would be willing to pay the £100k or however much their attendance at Easter Road brings in and we could tell them to stick their full stand they normally get up their arse.

Same goes for Celtic who I've no doubt will be telling us the same thing when we visit there later in the season.

[Smartie]

I really wish we had some wealthy fan who would be willing to pay the £100k or however much their attendance at Easter Road brings in and we could tell them stick their full stand they normally get up their arse.

Same goes for Celtic who I've no doubt will be telling us the same thing when we visit there later in the season.

Whilst we may not have the wealthy fan to pay a huge chunk, I’d be amazed if we didn’t have a reasonable number who would be prepared to make a point here, and try to sell the stand out a ticket or two or ten at a time.

Hibs could also choose to vocally make a point about it, although of course they won’t.

[gbhibby]

Means that we won't have to listen to the bile their fans come out with.

[Keith_M]

I'd imagine the club would be willing to accept £75k+ from a commercial sponsor to cover the whole South Stand with a giant banner advertising their wares

Wouldn't it be even better, though, if the Fans could instead start a campaign to pay for a giant banner decrying both Racism and Sectarianism.

There must be a number of reasonably well off fans, and other anti-racism and anti-sectarianism groups, that would be willing to pay for something like that?


I'm not particularly well off but I'd be willing to donate £100 for a start.

[Cod Boy]

Give them no tickets for Easter Road survived last season without them

[weecounty hibby]

I'd imagine the club would be willing to accept £75k+ from a commercial sponsor to cover the whole South Stand with a giant banner advertising their wares

Wouldn't it be even better, though, if the Fans could instead start a campaign to pay for a giant banner decrying both Racism and Sectarianism.

There must be a number of reasonably well off fans, and other anti-racism and anti-sectarianism groups, that would be willing to pay for something like that?


I'm not particularly well off but I'd be willing to donate £100 for a start.

Great idea. I'm in

[Mikey_1875]

Someone should ask them how they were planning to offer Celtic an allocation until Celtic told them they couldn’t guarantee any for the return leg. Now suddenly the red zone has came into play. Should be widely condemned by all clubs but probably wasting our breath as they will just say it is not in their control.

International break the week after so going to be 3 weeks without a game to go to.

[Sir David Gray]

I'd imagine the club would be willing to accept £75k+ from a commercial sponsor to cover the whole South Stand with a giant banner advertising their wares

Wouldn't it be even better, though, if the Fans could instead start a campaign to pay for a giant banner decrying both Racism and Sectarianism.

There must be a number of reasonably well off fans, and other anti-racism and anti-sectarianism groups, that would be willing to pay for something like that?


I'm not particularly well off but I'd be willing to donate £100 for a start.

I'd be happy to make a contribution four times a season if it meant no Rangers or Celtic fans attending Easter Road.

[Keith_M]

I'd be happy to make a contribution four times a season if it meant no Rangers or Celtic fans attending Easter Road.


I'd imagine a number of people would, mate.

:aok:


If I had any skills at this sort of thing, I would organise it myself, but I'm not really the right person for this kind of campaign

I think it would be great if somebody with a bit more organisational skill, and social-media savvy, than I have would be willing to volunteer.

[Peevemor]

Theres no minimum allocation for league games. Clubs don't have to give us any tickets at all.Yes they do. The number of which is to be agreed between the clubs. If the clubs can't come to an agreement then the SPFL act as arbiters.

Obviously the red zone thing has shifted the goalposts.

[Peevemor]

We can, we just choose not to.You honestly think Hibs can afford to write off £75k-100k from 1 match? I certainly don't.

[Peevemor]

I'd be happy to make a contribution four times a season if it meant no Rangers or Celtic fans attending Easter Road.It's not going to happen. Under normal circumstances we're obliged accommodate at least some visiting supporters.

[hibbysam]

You honestly think Hibs can afford to write off £75k-100k from 1 match? I certainly don't.

Yes. It also wouldn’t be anywhere near those two figures.

[Keith_M]

It's not going to happen. Under normal circumstances we're obliged accommodate at least some visiting supporters.


As you've just said, though, it's not normal circumstances.


The Club could also release a statement that we couldn't guarantee the safety of any Rangers supporters attending the match... If it's OK for Rangers, it's OK for us.

[Peevemor]

Yes. It also wouldn’t be anywhere near those two figures.Why not? 3700(ish) x £25 (excl. VAT) = £92,500. Add pies, etc & subtract additional police/stewards. My figures are about right.

And Hibs can't afford to write that off. I'd rather we had that £350k+ per season to spend on players.

[Billy Whizz]

Yes. It also wouldn’t be anywhere near those two figures.

Full end less Vat would be around £90k, depending on mix of concessions
However it’s a Wednesday night game in December and probably on Sky, so how many Hibs fans would we sell for the South

[hibbysam]

Why not? 3700(ish) x £25 (excl. VAT) = £92,500. Add pies, etc & subtract additional police/stewards. My figures are about right.

And Hibs can't afford to write that off. I'd rather we had that £350k+ per season to spend on players.

And if marketed right and a campaign was launched that would be offset by Hibs fans, less policing costs etc.

Hibs can afford to write it off, we wouldn’t go under without it and certainly wouldn’t struggle. I’d rather we had it also, but I’d also rather we had balls to say enoughs enough.

[Blaster]

And if marketed right and a campaign was launched that would be offset by Hibs fans, less policing costs etc.

Hibs can afford to write it off, we wouldn’t go under without it and certainly wouldn’t struggle. I’d rather we had it also, but I’d also rather we had balls to say enoughs enough.

I’m glad you’re not in charge of the financial side of the club

[Lendo]

Why not? 3700(ish) x £25 (excl. VAT) = £92,500. Add pies, etc & subtract additional police/stewards. My figures are about right.

And Hibs can't afford to write that off. I'd rather we had that £350k+ per season to spend on players.

Less repairs and decontamination :wink:

[Peevemor]

And if marketed right and a campaign was launched that would be offset by Hibs fans, less policing costs etc.

Hibs can afford to write it off, we wouldn’t go under without it and certainly wouldn’t struggle. I’d rather we had it also, but I’d also rather we had balls to say enoughs enough.I long for the day that we can guarantee 20k Hibs fans every time one of the OF come to ER.

Given that these matches are often televised live, I don't see that happening any time soon.

[Since90+2]

Why not? 3700(ish) x £25 (excl. VAT) = £92,500. Add pies, etc & subtract additional police/stewards. My figures are about right.

And Hibs can't afford to write that off. I'd rather we had that £350k+ per season to spend on players.

Hibs could write it off if the wanted to. It wouldn't be the financially prudent option but to say they can't afford it isn't correct.

[kaimendhibs]

I know we would lose money but I really wouldnt give them a single ticket for E.R.
Despicable horrible nasty club

[Since452]

Couldn't pay me to go there

[Peevemor]

Hibs could write it off if the wanted to. It wouldn't be the financially prudent option but to say they can't afford it isn't correct.Of course. We can set our sights lower when signing players to make up for it.

[B.H.F.C]

Couldn't pay me to go there

Favourite away trip. Brilliant getting a result there. Pretty gutted with this and gutted that we can’t/won’t return the favour (even if I understand why to an extent).

[Sir David Gray]

It's not going to happen. Under normal circumstances we're obliged accommodate at least some visiting supporters.

I realise we can't do it forever but we're not living under normal circumstances just now.

We should just shift our red zone and say that our fans need to move into the south stand as a result and therefore it's not safe to have any away fans. Seems like it's good enough for Rangers and Celtic.

[blackpoolhibs]

I realise we can't do it forever but we're not living under normal circumstances just now.

We should just shift our red zone and say that our fans need to move into the south stand as a result and therefore it's not safe to have any away fans. Seems like it's good enough for Rangers and Celtic.
:top marks

[Since90+2]

Of course. We can set our sights lower when signing players to make up for it.

Perhaps. Or we could potentially pick up more points against Sevco at ER as they won't have 3700 fans behind them. Those extra points could result in us finishing in a higher league position and getting additional revenue.

It's not a simple black and white argument.

[Peevemor]

Big travelling support at ER = big game atmosphere & more money for Hibs.

These are the matches that folk don't want to miss.

Take that away and the game becomes too sterile.

[Peevemor]

Perhaps. Or we could potentially pick up more points against Sevco at ER as they won't have 3700 fans behind them. Those extra points could result in us finishing in a higher league position and getting additional revenue.

It's not as simple black and white argument.Sorry, I think it is.

[Since90+2]

Sorry, I think it is.

Do you think we are more or less likely to pickup points against them at ER if they have a full stand or if they don't?

[Since90+2]

Big travelling support at ER = big game atmosphere & more money for Hibs.

These are the matches that folk don't want to miss.

Take that away and the game becomes too sterile.

You are miles off the mark here.

You honestly think Hibs fans attend the game because there are also Rangers fans there? If anything it's the opposite and some, especially those with young kids, don't attend because of the bile from their end.

[Magpie]

I’d like to even give them at maximum half the stand like we did in the 5-5 game. Our attendances so far this season suggest the demand wouldn’t be there to do that though.

[Peevemor]

Do you think we are more or less likely to pickup points against then at ER if they have a full stand or if they don't?Depends how much we have to cut our player budget.

Also the effect a noisy travelling support might have on raising our players' game can't be ignored.

[Peevemor]

You are miles off the mark here.

You honestly think Hibs fans attend the game because there are also Rangers fans there? If anything it's the opposite and some, especially those with young kids, don't attend because of the bile from their end.

Yes.

[hibeedonald]

Don't give them a single ticket

[Juniper Greens]

I'd imagine the club would be willing to accept £75k+ from a commercial sponsor to cover the whole South Stand with a giant banner advertising their wares

Wouldn't it be even better, though, if the Fans could instead start a campaign to pay for a giant banner decrying both Racism and Sectarianism.

There must be a number of reasonably well off fans, and other anti-racism and anti-sectarianism groups, that would be willing to pay for something like that?


I'm not particularly well off but I'd be willing to donate £100 for a start.

This would be a great idea. Would the club be receptive to such an idea. Even if we could cover half the loss and the cost of the banner. Ticket sales would likely be 90k. Added policing might bring that down a bit, so if we could target say 40k in a crowd funder, would the club accept?
We might even get like minded fans of other clubs donating...

[Since90+2]

Yes.

I'm not sure how many games you attend to come to that conclusion but I can tell you that are wrong.

[Since90+2]

Depends how much we have to cut our player budget.

Also the effect a noisy travelling support might have on raising our players' game can't be ignored.

A noisy traveling Rangers support raises the game of Hibs players? I've heard it all now.

[bigwheel]

I'd imagine the club would be willing to accept £75k+ from a commercial sponsor to cover the whole South Stand with a giant banner advertising their wares

Wouldn't it be even better, though, if the Fans could instead start a campaign to pay for a giant banner decrying both Racism and Sectarianism.

There must be a number of reasonably well off fans, and other anti-racism and anti-sectarianism groups, that would be willing to pay for something like that?


I'm not particularly well off but I'd be willing to donate £100 for a start.

Ha! The club certainly would ! Not a chance we would get that fee for one match ..they could get there name on the front of the strip all season for just over double that

[Since90+2]

I'd imagine the club would be willing to accept £75k+ from a commercial sponsor to cover the whole South Stand with a giant banner advertising their wares

Wouldn't it be even better, though, if the Fans could instead start a campaign to pay for a giant banner decrying both Racism and Sectarianism.

There must be a number of reasonably well off fans, and other anti-racism and anti-sectarianism groups, that would be willing to pay for something like that?


I'm not particularly well off but I'd be willing to donate £100 for a start.

Great idea.

[Peevemor]

I'm not sure how many games you attend to come to that conclusion, I think from memory but you don't live in Scotland, but I can tell you that are wrong.I don't live in Scotland but have attended dozens of these matches at ER.

It's my opinion and one obviously shared by the few thousand extra Hibs fans that PATG for these fixtures.

[Billy Whizz]

I'm not sure how many games you attend to come to that conclusion but I can tell you that are wrong.

He doesn’t attend any games, but he’s the voice of the Hibernian support on here

[blackpoolhibs]

Big travelling support at ER = big game atmosphere & more money for Hibs.

These are the matches that folk don't want to miss.

Take that away and the game becomes too sterile.

Just a shame we are not allowed a big travelling support at ibrox, but what does that matter when all we are looking for is fairness?

[Chuck Rhoades]

It’s absolutely imperative we return the ‘favour’ and sell out the four stands on our own when they visit.

This. Hibs need to play on it, point the finger and absolutely encourage it. Using channels such as this to advertise.

[LunasBoots]

No tickets for Easter road then only fair, take a stand Hibs.

[Peevemor]

He doesn’t attend any games, but he’s the voice of the Hibernian support on hereI'm allowed my opinions. I'd rather you stopped the sarcastic crap as far as I'm concerned though.

[Since90+2]

I don't live in Scotland but have attended dozens of these matches at ER.

It's my opinion and one obviously shared by the few thousand extra Hibs fans that PATG for these fixtures.

The few thousand extra Hibs fans are there because there is a a full south stand of Huns? What an incredibly weird logic.

[Torto7]

Ban them until they solve their bigoted views which will be never. It shouldn't matter the cost. If we 'need' their money then we're poorly run. I'd rather drop one good player per season and never have to suffer those fuds again.

[Peevemor]

The few thousand extra Hibs fans are there because there is a a full south stand of Huns? What an incredibly weird logic.It's my opinion. You disagree with it which is fine. Just leave it at that.

[Mikey_1875]

I'm not sure how many games you attend to come to that conclusion but I can tell you that are wrong.

Both points are valid I think. Some people won’t take kids to the game for the reasons you have described but it’ll be one of the first fixtures other people look for in the calendar because of the atmosphere at the games. Creating atmosphere is a two way street and for me games are a lot worse off not having the back and forth between fans.

Fwiw I would like to see us go tit for tat while we aren’t allowed in Ibrox or Parkhead but appreciate that it may not be justifiable financially. Long term though the game will be a lot worse off if we start picking and choosing what away supports can come into games. I’ve said in the past the less OF fans at ER the better but I wouldn’t want them taken out of the equation completely.

[bigwheel]

I'm allowed my opinions. I'd rather you stopped the sarcastic crap as far as I'm concerned though.

Your opinion on the Rangers Fans attending encouraging Hibs fans to attend is way wrong for me….the hateful atmosphere they create does not entice fans to attend ..more likely keeps people away. It’s a big game without their hoards and bile..

Your previous post got it wrong

[hibbysam]

I’m glad you’re not in charge of the financial side of the club

Why? Because I wouldn’t be relying on 4000 ********s from the west of Scotland 4 times a year to make us competitive? I’d hope our board have the exact same thinking, and would hope our fans buy into that. The argument is that we can’t afford to write it off, even though we can. To say otherwise is lying. Would we prefer to have it? Probably, is it a necessity? No.

[Peevemor]

Your opinion on the Rangers Fans attending encouraging Hibs fans to attend is way wrong for me….the hateful atmosphere they create does not entice fans to attend ..more likely keeps people away. It’s a big game without their hoards and bile..

Your previous post got it wrongWhy is there always an increase in the Hibs support for these games, even at times when they're (huns or celtc) not at their best?

A lot of people are attracted by the atmosphere and sense of ocassion at these matches.

You disagree, that's fine. There's no point bouncing back & forward.

[Peevemor]

Why? Because I wouldn’t be relying on 4000 ********s from the west of Scotland 4 times a year to make us competitive? I’d hope our board have the exact same thinking, and would hope our fans buy into that. The argument is that we can’t afford to write it off, even though we can. To say otherwise is lying. Would we prefer to have it? Probably, is it a necessity? No.Let's see how much money we lost last season, then we can discuss whether it's a necessity.

[kaimendhibs]

I don't live in Scotland but have attended dozens of these matches at ER.

It's my opinion and one obviously shared by the few thousand extra Hibs fans that PATG for these fixtures.

Not gonna go check stats but I dont think that adds up. The games at ER against them normally have a ****ty ko time for tv. Loads of folk just watch on telly instead.
And, as mentioned earlier, people are put off from taking kids because of the toxic atmosphere inside and out.
As someone who has gone to the games for 50 years I would not miss them one bit

[B.H.F.C]

This. Hibs need to play on it, point the finger and absolutely encourage it. Using channels such as this to advertise.

I agree with this but, in reality, we won’t say a word and we’ll take their money.

[kaimendhibs]

Why is there always an increase in the Hibs support for these games, even at times when they're (huns or celtc) not at their best?

A lot of people are attracted by the atmosphere and sense of ocassion at these matches.

You disagree, that's fine. There's no point bouncing back & forward.
There really isnt

[Tommy75]

I long for the day that we can guarantee 20k Hibs fans every time one of the OF come to ER.

Given that these matches are often televised live, I don't see that happening any time soon.

This is something that clubs need to start calling out. When playing The Rangers/Celtic at home the games are 99% of the time on TV therefore making it difficult to sell tickets. We get a paltry 900 odd tickets for Celtic Park and Ibrox and the games are pretty much never on TV. For years broadcasters have chosen games like Hamilton v Celtic over Rangers v Hibs/Aberdeen. Absolute joke. No disrespect to Hamilton but my point is that the 'biggest' games are often not the ones chosen. Fair play to the clubs going for a strategic review but the Scottish game is rotten to the core and no amount of reviews/plans/strategies will change it.

I would be happy for Hibs to refuse tickets to the OF this season. Yes, it is a big financial hit for the club but when do we say enough is enough? If not now then when?

[hibbysam]

Let's see how much money we lost last season, then we can discuss whether it's a necessity.

And we were still able to spend £1m (allegedly) on big screens, we were still able to spend money in the summer improving our team. If we are reliant on 4 full houses a season from the old firm then we’re doing things wrong and it’s a risky game to play. Thankfully we aren’t.

[LunasBoots]

I hear there are other clubs considering taking a stand against this and so should Hibs.

[bigwheel]

Why is there always an increase in the Hibs support for these games, even at times when they're (huns or celtc) not at their best?

A lot of people are attracted by the atmosphere and sense of ocassion at these matches.

You disagree, that's fine. There's no point bouncing back & forward.

I replied once … no idea what your bouncing back and forward nonsense is about ….

They are always big games , that’s why people go..not because their fans are there .

[Billy Whizz]

I hear there are other clubs considering taking a stand against this and so should Hibs.

Where are you reading this, as the more who club together the better

[Billy Whizz]

I replied once … no idea what your bouncing back and forward nonsense is about ….

They are always big games , that’s why people go..not because their fans are there .

I’d rather their fans weren’t at the games, the stuff we have to listen too

[bigwheel]

I’d rather their fans weren’t at the games, the stuff we have to listen too

Me too. Just full of hate …horrible atmosphere

[Peevemor]

I replied once … no idea what your bouncing back and forward nonsense is about ….

They are always big games , that’s why people go..not because their fans are there .The bouncing back and forward thing was just a way of saying that we're not going to agree.

Lighten up.

[Bostonhibby]

It’s absolutely imperative we return the ‘favour’ and sell out the four stands on our own when they visit.I know I can't make the game already but if our club tell them to bolt I'll definitely donate the price of a ticket.

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[bigwheel]

The bouncing back and forward thing was just a way of saying that we're not going to agree.

Lighten up.

from the king of “light” replies [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

[Peevemor]

from the king of “light” replies [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]I have been though. Folk are having digs, I've remained civil.

[LunasBoots]

Where are you reading this, as the more who club together the better

Aberdeen are the club behind the scenes Stewart Roberstson at Rangers is creating more than a lot of friction within Scottish football at the moment, clubs are becoming more and more pished off with Rangers antics and behaviours.

[weecounty hibby]

Said it before but Ron is big on spectator experience at the games. My experience of attending a game v rangers would be greatly enhanced if the non stop bigotry was stopped. First step to doing that would be to ban them and explain our reasons. Bigotry and racism and the fact they have decided to stop giving us tickets for ibrox. The rest of the Scottish clubs need to start standing up to the bigot twins. Without the rest of us they have nowhere to pkay. We are stronger than they think and we have a strong position if we all stand together. I would guess most sets of fans would be up for it, just need the clubs on board as well

[Billy Whizz]

Aberdeen are the club behind the scenes Stewart Roberstson at Rangers is creating more than a lot of friction within Scottish football at the moment, clubs are becoming more and more pished off with Rangers antics and behaviours.

Glad to hear, Robertson and his club causing problems with cinch deal as well

[kaimendhibs]

Said it before but Ron is big on spectator experience at the games. My experience of attending a game v rangers would be greatly enhanced if the non stop bigotry was stopped. First step to doing that would be to ban them and explain our reasons. Bigotry and racism and the fact they have decided to stop giving us tickets for ibrox. The rest of the Scottish clubs need to start standing up to the bigot twins. Without the rest of us they have nowhere to pkay. We are stronger than they think and we have a strong position if we all stand together. I would guess most sets of fans would be up for it, just need the clubs on board as well

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[B.H.F.C]

Aberdeen are the club behind the scenes Stewart Roberstson at Rangers is creating more than a lot of friction within Scottish football at the moment, clubs are becoming more and more pished off with Rangers antics and behaviours.

Still can’t see any of them turning down their money though.

[King Cosell]

They don't get tickets for Parkhead, the away section at Pittodrie is horrible, so the best away days for Rangers fans is Hibs & Hearts. Their hardcore travelling support be furious if they couldn't go. Average ticket price around £22? £80,000 in ticket sales? But then we'd need fewer coppers & stewards. I hope we give the nowt but will understand if the club decide otherwise.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Anyone else find it **** that our arse cheek games at home are evening and seem to be the only home league games we have?

[WhileTheChief..]

I love a full away end at ER.

Don't care if it's Rangers, Celtic or Hearts - these are best games of the season for me.

Take the fans away and it's just not the same.

I don't care what they sing, i can never make out what they sing anyways, but I love the noise that WE make when they're in town.

All for cutting their allocation when we've got 17,000 ST holders but until then I'm good with things.

I'm certainly not donating money to Hibs to keep them out, that's just crazy talk!

[Peevemor]

I love a full away end at ER.

Don't care if it's Rangers, Celtic or Hearts - these are best games of the season for me.

Take the fans away and it's just not the same.

I don't care what they sing, i can never make out what they sing anyways, but I love the noise that WE make when they're in town.

All for cutting their allocation when we've got 17,000 ST holders but until then I'm good with things.

I'm certainly not donating money to Hibs to keep them out, that's just crazy talk!Spot on. These are the games I miss the most, and by a long way.

[marinello59]

I love a full away end at ER.

Don't care if it's Rangers, Celtic or Hearts - these are best games of the season for me.

Take the fans away and it's just not the same.

I don't care what they sing, i can never make out what they sing anyways, but I love the noise that WE make when they're in town.

All for cutting their allocation when we've got 17,000 ST holders but until then I'm good with things.

I'm certainly not donating money to Hibs to keep them out, that's just crazy talk!

:top marks

[Hermit Crab]

Lyon fans have the usual corner tonight a Ibrox although theres only about 50 of them there.

[Billy Whizz]

Lyon fans have the usual corner tonight a Ibrox although theres only about 50 of them there.

So they can do it

[Helensburghhibs]

So they can do it

To be fair there's no obligation to st holders tonight

[PolmontHibby]

As a long standing season ticket holder I can probably count on one hand the number of home games against Celtic/Rangers I have attended, I just would rather not witness/hear the garbage heard from the away stand.

Difficult to judge in these days when empty season ticket seats are counted in the attendance....but from what I have seen I am not the only one.

[Torto7]

I love a full away end at ER.

Don't care if it's Rangers, Celtic or Hearts - these are best games of the season for me.

Take the fans away and it's just not the same.

I don't care what they sing, i can never make out what they sing anyways, but I love the noise that WE make when they're in town.

All for cutting their allocation when we've got 17,000 ST holders but until then I'm good with things.

I'm certainly not donating money to Hibs to keep them out, that's just crazy talk!

That should be all you say on the matter then.

[jgl07]

My patience with the shambles that is Scottish football is rapidly running out.

It's not the fact that 'Rangers' try on stunts like 'no visiting supporters' and sabotaging SPFL sponsporship deals, it's that they appear to be getting away with it.

They should have been nailed into their coffin after the clib died a miserable death and the rules should have been changed. Celtic and Aberdeen saw that the rules would not be changed/

Given the disregard for what rules that makes me consider what is the point of attending matches at all, given the institutional corruption.

[PolmontHibby]

this must top the list for my most boring post ever..however.
I can see no exceptions for issues such as COVID over riding the visiting supporter SPFL rules below - but it seems there is a mechanism to challenge the no away support stance - whether it is fair to do so given COVID I am not sure....but no club has had the gonads so far by looks of it.


I27 The Home club must make provision for the admission of such reasonable number
of visiting supporters at every home League Match and Play-Off Match as may be
agreed in advance with the Visiting Club and, in the event of their being unable to
agree such number not later than 14 days prior to the date of the League Match or
Play-Off Match in question, the number of visiting supporters allowed shall be
determined by the Board whose decision shall be final and binding.
I28 A section of the ground must be reserved for supporters of the Visiting Club and any
tickets for League Matches and Play-Off Matches must be distributed on that basis.
Details of these arrangements should be publicised by the Clubs concerned in
advance

[DarrenSQH]

Loads of empty seats in the broomloan upper tonight looking on tv. Top right corner must be a few thousand empty. That's a big euro game and we can't get a few hundred for a league match on a Sunday.

[Hermit Crab]

this must top the list for my most boring post ever..however.
I can see no exceptions for issues such as COVID over riding the visiting supporter SPFL rules below - but it seems there is a mechanism to challenge the no away support stance - whether it is fair to do so given COVID I am not sure....but no club has had the gonads so far by looks of it.


I27 The Home club must make provision for the admission of such reasonable number
of visiting supporters at every home League Match and Play-Off Match as may be
agreed in advance with the Visiting Club and, in the event of their being unable to
agree such number not later than 14 days prior to the date of the League Match or
Play-Off Match in question, the number of visiting supporters allowed shall be
determined by the Board whose decision shall be final and binding.
I28 A section of the ground must be reserved for supporters of the Visiting Club and any
tickets for League Matches and Play-Off Matches must be distributed on that basis.
Details of these arrangements should be publicised by the Clubs concerned in
advance


Its to do with displaced season ticket holders in the red zone at Ibrox. Nothing we can do about it.

[Hermit Crab]

Loads of empty seats in the broomloan upper tonight looking on tv. Top right corner must be a few thousand empty. That's a big euro game and we can't get a few hundred for a league match on a Sunday.


Season tickets are not valid for European games

[jgl07]

Its to do with displaced season ticket holders in the red zone at Ibrox. Nothing we can do about it.

Well 'Rangers' should have been aware of the rules and not 'oversold' season tickets.

[DarrenSQH]

Season tickets are not valid for European games

Obviously but pointing out the demand isn't as high to see them as they would suggest. Think they've at least got 5k seats to sell after season tickets.

Teams at the start of the season have had away supports at ibrox in league but that's changed after old firm

[HibS1957]

As a season ticket holder I would be willing to buy a ticket in the away end to give to to a fellow Hibs supporter. It would be even sweeter if I could help someone who has fallen on hard times.

[HibS1957]

As a season ticket holder I would be willing to buy a ticket in the away end to give to to a fellow Hibs supporter. It would be even sweeter if I could help someone who has fallen on hard times.

[bigwheel]

As a season ticket holder I would be willing to buy a ticket in the away end to give to to a fellow Hibs supporter. It would be even sweeter if I could help someone who has fallen on hard times.

That’s a great idea..I’d “pay it forward” for that too [emoji119][emoji122]

[hibbysam]

Its to do with displaced season ticket holders in the red zone at Ibrox. Nothing we can do about it.

They can move those fans without impacting on away crowds. Fact is they then sell more tickets to home fans thereafter, Celtic do the same, the away end at Celtic park has been empty all season.

[WeeRussell]

Who do these glasgow clubs think they are? How is this even allowed. We need to do the same to them, keep their money, hibs fans need to step up this time though and sell it out, or donate the price of a ticket to make up for it.

Also just seen that Neil lennon and chris Sutton have been told they can't go to Ibrox tonight for security reasons to do punditry work on the game, Absoloutely disgusting, how do these wet wipes keep getting away with this. They should be fined.

Hibs fans need to step up this time and donate money, because rangers aren’t letting us in to ibrox.

Doesn’t sound right to me.

[Joe6-2]

No great surprise, but just had an email from the Ticket Office to confirm we’re not getting any tickets.

Another reason to dislike them.

Didn’t need any more reasons

[Joe6-2]

They should be told to bolt regardless…

Definitely this

[PatHead]

I love a full away end at ER.

Don't care if it's Rangers, Celtic or Hearts - these are best games of the season for me.

Take the fans away and it's just not the same.

I don't care what they sing, i can never make out what they sing anyways, but I love the noise that WE make when they're in town.

All for cutting their allocation when we've got 17,000 ST holders but until then I'm good with things.

I'm certainly not donating money to Hibs to keep them out, that's just crazy talk!

By not caring what they sing you are as bad as them. Absolutely disgusting that Hibs supporters accept blatant racism.

No room for racists or bigots at either end of Easter Road.you should be ashamed of yourself.

People like you aren't welcome at Easter Road.

[Sweet Left Peg]

Who do these glasgow clubs think they are? How is this even allowed. We need to do the same to them, keep their money, hibs fans need to step up this time though and sell it out, or donate the price of a ticket to make up for it.

Also just seen that Neil lennon and chris Sutton have been told they can't go to Ibrox tonight for security reasons to do punditry work on the game, Absoloutely disgusting, how do these wet wipes keep getting away with this. They should be fined.

Likely I wouldn't make the next game against them at home but I would gladly donate the price of a ticket and one for my son, if it meant that we kept their fans away from ER.

[wookie70]

Will be interesting to see if money is more important to morals from our board. Marketed correctly then the club could easily sell a home game out against them. Unfortunately we all know the outcome of it though.
I imagine it wouldn't have to sell out for the same net income giving reduced stewarding etc. I agree though that if marketed correctly and assuming we are still playing as well as we are we should go for it

[WhileTheChief..]

By not caring what they sing you are as bad as them. Absolutely disgusting that Hibs supporters accept blatant racism.

No room for racists or bigots at either end of Easter Road.you should be ashamed of yourself.

People like you aren't welcome at Easter Road.

Aye ok then. You can't make out a damn word they say, get off your high horse.

What have you ever actually done to stop it? **** all apart form mouthing off on here i bet. You're as bad as them.

In fact you're worse. You care an awful lot and yet do bugger all about it.

You're not welcome at ER.

[Sweet Left Peg]

If the club ask the fans if they are willing to donate the price of a ticket far enough in advance, then they could plan for giving the rangers a zero allocation. If enough of us go for it early enough then we can plan and budget for telling them to bolt. Sitting on our arse won't improve things. Let's be proactive.

[Peevemor]

If the club ask the fans if they are willing to donate the price of a ticket far enough in advance, then they could plan for giving the rangers a zero allocation. If enough of us go for it early enough then we can plan and budget for telling them to bolt. Sitting on our arse won't improve things. Let's be proactive.3700 tickets, 4 times a season and at category A prices?

That's more than HSL's annual donations.

[B.H.F.C]

Don’t expect we will, but would be interested to hear what the club think of it. Surely it won’t be any of the “we understand why they have to do it” stuff.

Granted they have to shunt the fans from the red zone but I’m sure there are plenty seats elsewhere in the ground that could accommodate them. As someone else pointed out, Celtic have done similar but that section of the ground has been ending up empty.

It’s an excuse to sell to their own fans and nothing else.

[Juniper Greens]

Aye ok then. You can't make out a damn word they say, get off your high horse.

What have you ever actually done to stop it? **** all apart form mouthing off on here i bet. You're as bad as them.

In fact you're worse. You care an awful lot and yet do bugger all about it.

You're not welcome at ER.

Sorry. You're wrong here. I've seen PatHead removed by stewards for complaining to them about the Racism in the away end. You cannot have a go at him on this one. You are in the wrong.

#stampitout

[WhileTheChief..]

Fair play to him then. I’m not about to start doing the same.

I go to the game to watch the game. Plenty other places to get political.

[Juniper Greens]

Fair play to him then. I’m not about to start doing the same.

I go to the game to watch the game. Plenty other places to get political.

Do you see it as political? Wow. I see it as being abused en masse! I tend to agree with PatHead, on this one. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. There is no place for bigotry in our society and we all have to help end it

[Carheenlea]

Not wholly surprised by this from Rangers.

One of my Hun friends asked me a couple of weeks ago if we’d be getting any Ibrox allocation as his son had his ST relocated to one of the three sections we usually receive. I said that while we got the three sections, two of them were segregated down the middle so it may not have necessarily meant that the away section was being completely taken up by relocated Huns, but sadly that looks to have been the case.

Disappointed to miss out on what is one of my favourite away outings but not really interested in retaliating with tit-for-tat and refusing them tickets at ER. Beating Rangers at ER when there is a full end of them to see it is far more satisfying.

[PatHead]

Aye ok then. You can't make out a damn word they say, get off your high horse.

What have you ever actually done to stop it? **** all apart form mouthing off on here i bet. You're as bad as them.

In fact you're worse. You care an awful lot and yet do bugger all about it.

You're not welcome at ER.

I have complained about bigotry at games, picked up Hibs "fans" for saying"get into that jungle bunny" not that long ago. Don't dare tell me I am not welcome at Easter Road.

Do you really find it acceptable to be racially abused, anywhere far less in a football stadium?

If you saw or heard someone getting abused in the street would you just carry on?

It is not acceptable. Don't try and defend yourself, just go away and reflect on what you have said and think is acceptable.

If you do and you are happy with your position you are part of the problem.

[WhileTheChief..]

Behave.

[PatHead]

Behave.

Bigot. Well if you won't critise them and find nothing wrong with what they sing you are one of them.

[Ringothedog]

I love a full away end at ER.

Don't care if it's Rangers, Celtic or Hearts - these are best games of the season for me.

Take the fans away and it's just not the same.

I don't care what they sing, i can never make out what they sing anyways, but I love the noise that WE make when they're in town.

All for cutting their allocation when we've got 17,000 ST holders but until then I'm good with things.

I'm certainly not donating money to Hibs to keep them out, that's just crazy talk!

I do care as they are stopping me supporting my club.

[PolmontHibby]

Its to do with displaced season ticket holders in the red zone at Ibrox. Nothing we can do about it.

can you point me in the right direction where the SPFL rules state that displaced season ticket holders over ride the provisions for away support.
I cannot spot it....and neither can an SPFL Board Member.....

[WeeRussell]

Behave.

To be fair to PH, he’s come back at your last attack suggesting he’s never done anything apart from moan about it on here.

Simply replying “behave” isn’t doing your argument many favours…

Surely, on reflection, you do care about the bigotry issue in football and the fact those ****bags come to our stadium and sing what they do?

And FWIW I’m in agreement with pretty much the rest of your post that started off this whole wee debate.

[King Cosell]

It's tantamount to bullying. Clubs can't afford to lock their fans out, but they can afford to banish visiting fans from Ibrox. Shower of c***s.

[bigwheel]

Bigot. Well if you won't critise them and find nothing wrong with what they sing you are one of them.

Think that is over the top tbh….

I deplore their hate filled songs, but tbh feel it reflects on them…rather than get too irate about it during a match

Nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe in, but the names you are calling a poster on here feels way out of proportion

[PatHead]

Think that is over the top tbh….

I deplore their hate filled songs, but tbh feel it reflects on them…rather than get too irate about it during a match

Nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe in, but the names you are calling a poster on here feels way out of proportion
Names? I have only called him a bigot for finding their racist behaviour acceptable. If that doesn't make him a bigot what does? He might as well join in.

[bigwheel]

Names? I have only called him a bigot for finding their racist behaviour acceptable. If that doesn't make him a bigot what does? He might as well join in.

I’m not sure he said he finds it acceptable…anyway, will let you get on with it,


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[Peevemor]

Names? I have only called him a bigot for finding their racist behaviour acceptable. If that doesn't make him a bigot what does? He might as well join in.He never said that though.

The huns are low life idiots. Their singing about Derry's walls and sashes doesn't affect my enjoyment of the match.

I'm in no way a bigot though.

[PatHead]

I’m not sure he said he finds it acceptable…anyway, will let you get on with it,


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"I don't care what they sing" To me, by having no objections, it must be that he finds it acceptable.

You take your interpretation and I will take mine.
The bottom line is that racism and bigotry is entirely unacceptable in any form. By not condemning it you allow it to continue and in many ways encourage it by making people think that it is acceptable.

[Juniper Greens]

I think we all have a duty to help eradicate this from our country, or else our children and their children might suffer from the same issues we have, which goes further than simple name calling. Unfortunately people still get asked what school they went to when applying for jobs and we know why that is!
There appears to finally be an appetite at Scot Gov level to tackle this and with it having flared up thanks to a Scottish rangers fan at Chelsea last week, people down south are learning what the word sectarian means.
With Covid and no tickets for Ibrox, this is the perfect opportunity to give them no tickets and put a banner up over the seats saying that we are against sectarianism. The club might even allude to the fact that it was a factor in denying tickets.
The truth is that some child rangers fans sing these songs without knowing what they meant. A friend of mine from Ayr said to me last week "I didn't realise that my dad was a bigot until I was about 15"...that's too late for most people!

[percy veer]

Id charge them more £45 a ticket make more cash off them, im sure you could word it and say we needed to increase costs due to having a ''red zone''

[King Cosell]

Id charge them more £45 a ticket make more cash off them, im sure you could word it and say we needed to increase costs due to having a ''red zone''

We'd have to charge the same for the North Stand.

[Since90+2]

If us, Aberdeen and Hearts were to take the same action and not give them any tickets you'd soon see them change their stance.

Sevco fans love their big days out and if they are stopped from attending their 3 biggest away games of the season they'll backtrack sharpish.

[WhileTheChief..]

To be fair to PH, he’s come back at your last attack suggesting he’s never done anything apart from moan about it on here.

Simply replying “behave” isn’t doing your argument many favours…

Surely, on reflection, you do care about the bigotry issue in football and the fact those ****bags come to our stadium and sing what they do?

And FWIW I’m in agreement with pretty much the rest of your post that started off this whole wee debate.

I already acknowledged that point.

[WhileTheChief..]

Bigot. Well if you won't critise them and find nothing wrong with what they sing you are one of them.

Ok, just to be clear, when Rangers next visit ER, what is it you want me to do?

Not just me, but 15,000 other Hibs fans as well.

What have we all to do so that we’re not bigots? Saying you dislike the songs on here really doesn’t amount to much.

If we watch the game and sing Hibs songs and enjoy ourselves, are we all collectively as bad as the Rangers fans singing songs?

Apart from you of course.

Just do one eh.

[WhileTheChief..]

Names? I have only called him a bigot for finding their racist behaviour acceptable. If that doesn't make him a bigot what does? He might as well join in.

You're putting words in my mouth.

I said I don't care what they sing - you equated that, wrongly, to meaning I find it acceptable.

I've not heard a single interview from a Hibs player condemning Rangers fans' songbook in recent years.

I've not heard RG mention it either.

Are they bigots too?

You jumped on my post to demonstrate how woke you are. You haven't mentioned any of the posters that agreed with my original point - are you going to call them bigots too?

Maybe it's you that needs some time to reflect on your ridiculous behaviour on this thread.

[erin go bragh]

I quite like seeing their bitter fat red faces when we beat them

[mcohibs]

Do you see it as political? Wow. I see it as being abused en masse! I tend to agree with PatHead, on this one. If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. There is no place for bigotry in our society and we all have to help end it

Agreed but it is long overdue that football clubs in this country took a stand on this issue, including our own. Nothing will ever be solved until that happens, I'm absolutely sure of that.

[Coco Bryce]

Gutted about this. I love going through there for the day.

[.Sean.]

I'd imagine a number of people would, mate.

:aok:


If I had any skills at this sort of thing, I would organise it myself, but I'm not really the right person for this kind of campaign

I think it would be great if somebody with a bit more organisational skill, and social-media savvy, than I have would be willing to volunteer.
Could not agree more

Hibs cannot give them tickets. Hopefully KP can tell the board how strongly most of us feel on this

We never went bust without their ticket money over recent years when we’ve not been in the same league.

[Sir David Gray]

I also hope as many Hibs fans as possible refuse to purchase a PPV stream for this game.

[PatHead]

You're putting words in my mouth.

I said I don't care what they sing - you equated that, wrongly, to meaning I find it acceptable.

I've not heard a single interview from a Hibs player condemning Rangers fans' songbook in recent years.

I've not heard RG mention it either.

Are they bigots too?

You jumped on my post to demonstrate how woke you are. You haven't mentioned any of the posters that agreed with my original point - are you going to call them bigots too?

Maybe it's you that needs some time to reflect on your ridiculous behaviour on this thread.

It's okay you are doing a good enough job of putting words in your own mouth.

Someone above said they know someone that did not realise their dad was a bigot until they were 15. It was normal in their household. That is what happens when you do nothing. It becomes acceptable.

Do you really not mind what they sing? Does it really not bother you?

If you don't pick people up on it and encourage them to think differently things will never change. I wonder what made that 15 year old think about bigotry. He/she must have had a better influence.

Just think about what you said. You couldn't care about folk singing about people dying from starvation. You couldn't care about people singing about being knee deep in someone's blood because of their religion. What kind of a person are you?

I have never considered myself a woke. I had to look it up to see what it is. I am actually quite pleased to be called that and probably a bit proud.

When I was young chants like"Get your tits out for the boys" were aimed at policewoman. Accusing Bobby Moore of walking like a woman and wearing a bra. Jimmy Hill was a proof . That is considered unacceptable nowadays because people stood up to it.

Times have moved on for the better since then. Just now there is a bit of momentum calling out bigotry or racist remarks. It's important that that momentum is not lost.

Making comments like you did are indefensible. Why don't you just admit it and retract your statement?

[davym7062]

I love a full away end at ER.

Don't care if it's Rangers, Celtic or Hearts - these are best games of the season for me.

Take the fans away and it's just not the same.

I don't care what they sing, i can never make out what they sing anyways, but I love the noise that WE make when they're in town.

All for cutting their allocation when we've got 17,000 ST holders but until then I'm good with things.

I'm certainly not donating money to Hibs to keep them out, that's just crazy talk!

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[CentreLine]

Could not agree more

Hibs cannot give them tickets. Hopefully KP can tell the board how strongly most of us feel on this

We never went bust without their ticket money over recent years when we’ve not been in the same league.

I think it’s a bit early to be claiming the majority here. Clearly there is strong feeling amongst some and that is understandable. Personally, I see football as an entertainment as well as a competitive sport. For that reason alone I feel that supporters from both sides must be accommodated. This isn’t the Roman amphitheatre for lambs to the slaughter, it’s a completion.
The the Rangers have got this badly wrong and so have Celtic, with their red zones. That’s where the problem lies and the remainder of Scottish football jumping to their lead would be unhelpful.

The sectarian issue is very real and criminally unacceptable but addressing that has seen some green shoots recently. Sadly I suspect it will remain a marathon rather than a race.

[Hibby70]

Is the issue with the red zone that they are potentially moving whole families so need big blocks to do so.

They may have 4000 spare seats but how are these spread out? Might be easier just to move them to the away end then allows them to sell the rest easier.

We might not be able to stop them coming as we can't prove that we need the space but we could at least drop their numbers significantly.

[WhileTheChief..]

It's okay you are doing a good enough job of putting words in your own mouth.

Someone above said they know someone that did not realise their dad was a bigot until they were 15. It was normal in their household. That is what happens when you do nothing. It becomes acceptable.

Do you really not mind what they sing? Does it really not bother you?

If you don't pick people up on it and encourage them to think differently things will never change. I wonder what made that 15 year old think about bigotry. He/she must have had a better influence.

Just think about what you said. You couldn't care about folk singing about people dying from starvation. You couldn't care about people singing about being knee deep in someone's blood because of their religion. What kind of a person are you?

I have never considered myself a woke. I had to look it up to see what it is. I am actually quite pleased to be called that and probably a bit proud.

When I was young chants like"Get your tits out for the boys" were aimed at policewoman. Accusing Bobby Moore of walking like a woman and wearing a bra. Jimmy Hill was a proof . That is considered unacceptable nowadays because people stood up to it.

Times have moved on for the better since then. Just now there is a bit of momentum calling out bigotry or racist remarks. It's important that that momentum is not lost.

Making comments like you did are indefensible. Why don't you just admit it and retract your statement?


What are you actually wanting me and everyone else that goes to ER to do?

I NEVER hear this issue discussed during games at ER. Not in the stand, in the concourse, walking in or out of the stadium or in the pubs. It's only ever mentioned on here.

No idea why you think I don't mind people starving, that's just ridiculous hyperbole from you again.

I notice you decided to ignore all my other points. Presumably 'cause you know you've made an arse of things here.

Point me to a quote from RG where he says Rangers fans shouldn't sing their songs.

If you can't, then going by your logic, he's part of the problem and in your words must be a bigot too. Same applies to Lewis, Paul, Darren et al. I've not heard one of them condemn Rangers fans, ever.

So, we're all bigots apart from you cause you demonstrate your outrage online. Woke, virtue signaling at it's best.

[Juniper Greens]

As I said before. As a one off, is this not a great excuse to reciprocate, fund raise the lost earnings and use our bought space in the South Stand to call out Racism and bigotry of all forms, including if there is any in our support.
I didn't attend last week, but apparently some of our young team sang one or two songs that they shouldn't have before the match. This is equally unacceptable and I hope that people feel empowered to call out such behaviour and #stampitout everywhere.
As others have said, there is real momentum behind stopping all sectarianism at the moment from both sides. Let's work together and beat this.
If hibs accept some sort of crowd funding for the rangers game, I'll pledge 100 straight away. KP, is this something you could enquire about?

[WhileTheChief..]

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Bigot :na na:

[Juniper Greens]

What are you actually wanting me and everyone else that goes to ER to do?

I NEVER hear this issue discussed during games at ER. Not in the stand, in the concourse, walking in or out of the stadium or in the pubs. It's only ever mentioned on here.

No idea why you think I don't mind people starving, that's just ridiculous hyperbole from you again.

I notice you decided to ignore all my other points. Presumably 'cause you know you've made an arse of things here.

Point me to a quote from RG where he says Rangers fans shouldn't sing their songs.

If you can't, then going by your logic, he's part of the problem and in your words must be a bigot too. Same applies to Lewis, Paul, Darren et al. I've not heard one of them condemn Rangers fans, ever.

So, we're all bigots apart from you cause you demonstrate your outrage online. Woke, virtue signaling at it's best.

I think the difference is that you said that you "don't care what they sing"?
I know I took offence to that and it looks like PH did too. As someone who has suffered in the workplace due to my religion, this really hits home and we need to accept that we have a problem and all do our best to sort it

Edit - in short, we should all care what is sung, even if we dont all take active steps to fix it, hopefully enough of us do.

[Sir David Gray]

As I said before. As a one off, is this not a great excuse to reciprocate, fund raise the lost earnings and use our bought space in the South Stand to call out Racism and bigotry of all forms, including if there is any in our support.
I didn't attend last week, but apparently some of our young team sang one or two songs that they shouldn't have before the match. This is equally unacceptable and I hope that people feel empowered to call out such behaviour and #stampitout everywhere.
As others have said, there is real momentum behind stopping all sectarianism at the moment from both sides. Let's work together and beat this.
If hibs accept some sort of crowd funding for the rangers game, I'll pledge 100 straight away. KP, is this something you could enquire about?

I would be astonished if such a proposal was given serious consideration by Hibs to be honest.

[hibbysam]

Is the issue with the red zone that they are potentially moving whole families so need big blocks to do so.

They may have 4000 spare seats but how are these spread out? Might be easier just to move them to the away end then allows them to sell the rest easier.

We might not be able to stop them coming as we can't prove that we need the space but we could at least drop their numbers significantly.

Nope, look at Celtic. The red zone there is their most expensive seats. They aren’t moving those fans to the worst seats in the stadium. This has been shown by their home games already having this whole section completely empty.

[marinello59]

By not caring what they sing you are as bad as them. Absolutely disgusting that Hibs supporters accept blatant racism.

No room for racists or bigots at either end of Easter Road.you should be ashamed of yourself.

People like you aren't welcome at Easter Road.

Your stance against bigotry is admirable, I don’t think there is a single person here who doesn’t think it should be called out at the appropriate time. To call WTC a bigot for his post though? In no way is he condoning bigotry there.
I refuse to let my enjoyment of any game be ruined by hateful songs decrying my religion coming from the away stands. Basically I am so engrossed in what happens on the pitch in the more high stakes games that I pay no attention to what they are singing anyway. They could be belting out the theme tune from balamory for all I know. I don’t think that makes me a bigot either.
Peace guys, let’s try and calm it down a bit. Calling other Hibs fans bigots just diverts attention away from the real offenders.

[WeeRussell]

I think the difference is that you said that you "don't care what they sing"?
I know I took offence to that and it looks like PH did too. As someone who has suffered in the workplace due to my religion, this really hits home and we need to accept that we have a problem and all do our best to sort it

Edit - in short, we should all care what is sung, even if we dont all take active steps to fix it, hopefully enough of us do.

I didn’t take any offence, but I think it would have saved a lot of back and forth (and any still to come) if WTC had simply said he didn’t actually mean “I don’t care” and was simply stating that he doesn’t let it affect his enjoyment of football matches.

Everybody on here including PH knows fine well he isn’t a bigot. I guess when you start replying about keeping politics out of football and just “behave” instead, it doesn’t help your case.

I’m sure PH would then acknowledge his reaction was a bit over the top to something that was effectively just badly worded.

[WhileTheChief..]

I think the difference is that you said that you "don't care what they sing"?
I know I took offence to that and it looks like PH did too. As someone who has suffered in the workplace due to my religion, this really hits home and we need to accept that we have a problem and all do our best to sort it

Edit - in short, we should all care what is sung, even if we dont all take active steps to fix it, hopefully enough of us do.

There is a problem, I'm not denying that.

What I am saying, without apology, is that when I'm at ER, I really don't care.

Bad choice of words, maybe, let's not get hung up on that. You mentioned me using the word 'political'. Would it have been better if I said 'this issue'? Splitting hairs really.

Here's my point, you and PH have said that by me not doing anything, I am part of the problem. I absolutely 100% refute this allegation and if you stick by it, then respectfully, you can do one with PH too!

Answer me this, are all the players and staff at ER, and everyone else who does nothing about it, also bigots and part of the problem?

[Juniper Greens]

There is a problem, I'm not denying that.

What I am saying, without apology, is that when I'm at ER, I really don't care.

Bad choice of words, maybe, let's not get hung up on that. You mentioned me using the word 'political'. Would it have been better if I said 'this issue'? Splitting hairs really.

Here's my point, you and PH have said that by me not doing anything, I am part of the problem. I absolutely 100% refute this allegation and if you stick by it, then respectfully, you can do one with PH too!

Answer me this, are all the players and staff at ER, and everyone else who does nothing about it, also bigots and part of the problem?

Steady on. I've not called anyone a bigot. However I did say that if people aren't part of the solution, they are part of the problem, yes. There are many ways to be part of the solution. Simply acknowledging that scotland has this issue and would be a better place without it is being part of the solution. Your earlier comment on the other hand, which I think you are apologising for was certainly a good example of being part of the problem.
Not everyone needs to actively take a stand against this issue, but acknowledging it, discussing it with others and discouraging it if you witness someone you know doing it is how we will beat this in the long run.
Obviously Rangers and the OO (who are out marching again this weekend) are something that us as individuals cannot address, and in my view, they both poison young minds into thinking bigotry is OK. However as a collective club or country, we can tackle this more effectively.
Interestingly I note in the news that the OO have had to deny that they are a sectarian organisation today, which feels like progress in itself.

[BegbieHSC]

Remember the outrage from the media when we cut the old firm allocation to what they give us, because we were regularly selling out?

Remember the Huns “beggars belief” statement? Remember the Celtic statement?

They freeze our fans out altogether and not a peep?

I don’t care if it’s petty, give them absolutely nothing, and show up the double standards in Scottish football and the media and club reaction.

[WhileTheChief..]

Steady on. I've not called anyone a bigot. However I did say that if people aren't part of the solution, they are part of the problem, yes. There are many ways to be part of the solution. Simply acknowledging that scotland has this issue and would be a better place without it is being part of the solution. Your earlier comment on the other hand, which I think you are apologising for was certainly a good example of being part of the problem.
Not everyone needs to actively take a stand against this issue, but acknowledging it, discussing it with others and discouraging it if you witness someone you know doing it is how we will beat this in the long run.
Obviously Rangers and the OO (who are out marching again this weekend) are something that us as individuals cannot address, and in my view, they both poison young minds into thinking bigotry is OK. However as a collective club or country, we can tackle this more effectively.
Interestingly I note in the news that the OO have had to deny that they are a sectarian organisation today, which feels like progress in itself.

Every man and his dug knows that racism is wrong.

It doesn’t make you a better person by saying how much you hate it online.

You’re sticking with the line that if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. That’s straight out a Christmas cracker or something and means nothing in real life. What are you doing to help the people of Afghanistan?!

So again, answer my point please. As no one at Hibs is saying these songs are abhorrent, why aren’t you labelling them part of the problem too in the same way you’re accusing me?

[Juniper Greens]

Every man and his dug knows that racism is wrong.

It doesn’t make you a better person by saying how much you hate it online.

You’re sticking with the line that if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. That’s straight out a Christmas cracker or something and means nothing in real life. What are you doing to help the people of Afghanistan?!

So again, answer my point please. As no one at Hibs is saying these songs are abhorrent, why aren’t you labelling them part of the problem too in the same way you’re accusing me?

I'm done with this. I'm inclined to agree with PH here. You seem determined to allow rangers to sing what they want and then even resorted to name calling (woke) someone who was speaking out against it in the forum. I believe you are part of the issue, as you don't seem to understand what is wrong in this instance. You won't manage to raise another response from me on this issue.

[B.H.F.C]

I'm done with this. I'm inclined to agree with PH here. You seem determined to allow rangers to sing what they want and then even resorted to name calling (woke) someone who was speaking out against it in the forum. I believe you are part of the issue, as you don't seem to understand what is wrong in this instance. You won't manage to raise another response from me on this issue.

If you’re talking about ‘allowing’ them to sing what they want then the club must be more culpable than any supporter as they let them come back time and time again. Must be part of the problem.

[WhileTheChief..]

I'm done with this. I'm inclined to agree with PH here. You seem determined to allow rangers to sing what they want and then even resorted to name calling (woke) someone who was speaking out against it in the forum. I believe you are part of the issue, as you don't seem to understand what is wrong in this instance. You won't manage to raise another response from me on this issue.

Geezo, if calling someone woke is name calling and offensive it’s probably best you leave it there. Fine to call someone bigoted though eh?

You’re calling me out for not doing anything about it when the club you follow doesn’t bother their ass either. Double standards on your part.

[dp00]

Maybe we could get some fans into Easter road to watch the game on screens ? Cover against giving them no tickets when they visit us

Rangers & Celtic just do there own thing, and they are allowed, the game last weekend was much better for having both sets of fans


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[hibee_nation]

It's easier on twitter to work out who the woke ones are, it's the ones who proclaim their pronouns. :devil: