Sectarian Abuse at John McGinn [Archive]

AliboyFC

13-09-2021, 07:04 PM

Good to see England's clubs aren't as afraid of tackling this sort of behaviour head on. Will never catch on up here with Rangers and Hearts kicking about

Rangers yes hearts not so much. Most hearts fans hate sectarianism just like us. Rangers and celtic are the big problem not a small amount of daft ***** between both of edinburgh sides that let us both down.

Baader

13-09-2021, 07:04 PM

Chelsea statement:
https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/09/13/club-statement

Villa have expressed their satisfaction with the investigation being undertaken. They'll find this guy and he'll be banned for life. If he has a job, he'll likely lose that along with possibly gaining a criminal conviction.

Meanwhile we have to put up with the usual hordes belting out the same thing- like Rangers at McDiarmid yesterday - and nothing gets done about it. :rolleyes:

Hibernian Verse

13-09-2021, 07:04 PM

I feel as though it’s all finally unravelling. I sincerely hope it continues.

CropleyWasGod

13-09-2021, 07:14 PM

Scottish voice. No doubt one of the old-school
Rangers/Chelsea love-in.

neil7908

13-09-2021, 07:17 PM

Meanwhile in Scotland, 10s of thousands of Sevco fans sing stuff every week. And not a peep.

Pagan Hibernia

13-09-2021, 07:18 PM

Horrible fan base Chelsea. Not surprised

Billy Whizz

13-09-2021, 07:20 PM

I feel as though it’s all finally unravelling. I sincerely hope it continues.

I hope you’re right

Itsnoteasy

13-09-2021, 07:32 PM

Good to see England's clubs aren't as afraid of tackling this sort of behaviour head on. Will never catch on up here with Rangers and Hearts kicking about

Celtic?

hibsbollah

13-09-2021, 07:36 PM

Celtic?

Not a club well known for abusing Catholics, i don’t think.

gbhibby

13-09-2021, 07:37 PM

Rangers fans will name a supporters branch to honour that bigot. Over to you Rangers or are you still hard of hearing.

CropleyWasGod

13-09-2021, 07:37 PM

Not a club well known for abusing Catholics, i don’t think.

Some of their signings over the years have had the same effect.😉

SHODAN

13-09-2021, 07:44 PM

The guy who did it is probably used to screaming this sort of bile week-in, week-out at Ibrox with no punishment. He's about to realise you don't get away with it everywhere.

ABZHFC

13-09-2021, 07:54 PM

Rangers yes hearts not so much. Most hearts fans hate sectarianism just like us. Rangers and celtic are the big problem not a small amount of daft ***** between both of edinburgh sides that let us both down.

Most of the ground sang Hullo Hullo yesterday, same case in their 2019 final when their whole end was jumping to that vile chant after they went 1-0 up

gbhibby

13-09-2021, 07:57 PM

The thing is that abuse was the same stuff that he would get from Rangers and Hearts fans up here so he is probably used to it.
Unfortunately nothing will change in Scotland.

hibbysam

13-09-2021, 08:01 PM

The thing is that abuse was the same stuff that he would get from Rangers and Hearts fans up here so he is probably used to it.
Unfortunately nothing will change in Scotland.

Except the fact London is in England? This incident has heehaw to do with our game up here. We keep hearing on here that we can’t use ‘whataboutery’ - if that applies then this incident has nothing to do with anything we will hear at Ibrox/CP/Tynie/ER.

Well done to Chelsea for dealing with it at the first point.

EI255

13-09-2021, 08:07 PM

Scottish voice. No doubt one of the old-school
Rangers/Chelsea love-in.Aye, and a clear "we arra pee - pul" could be heard too. Sad, drunken caveman. Reality is, decent Chelsea fans round about him would be laughing at him. Not with him. Pr1kk.

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Paul1642

13-09-2021, 08:15 PM

The way that football is going is that racism is at last getting dealt with pretty seriously the last year or so (in my opinion anyway). This really gathered pace fast!. There is surely no way that Scotland’s West Coast sectarianism will be allowed to continue the way it currently exists. No sign of it being taking seriously yet but as soon as it gets the attention and condemnation it deserves it should snowball pretty fast I hope. Who knows though.

007

13-09-2021, 08:43 PM

I wonder if Rangers aren't allowing any away fans into Ibrox just now in case they capture similar footage. Shouldn't be difficult.

marinello59

13-09-2021, 08:43 PM

Most of the ground sang Hullo Hullo yesterday, same case in their 2019 final when their whole end was jumping to that vile chant after they went 1-0 up

There were large groups singing it in the numpty sections closest to us on either side but the majority of Hearts fans didn’t. They have a problem but let’s not pretend that the vast majority of Hearts fans aren’t opposed to this crap.

Pretty Boy

13-09-2021, 08:47 PM

There were large groups singing it in the numpty sections closest to us on either side but the majority of Hearts fans didn’t. They have a problem but let’s not pretend that the vast majority of Hearts fans aren’t opposed to this crap.

Yep.

I think Hearts, as a club and a fanbase, could argue with a straight face that any sectarian issue they have is the work of a minority. Rangers are a whole other ball game and it plays down their problem when false equivalences are made.

gbhibby

13-09-2021, 08:53 PM

Except the fact London is in England? This incident has heehaw to do with our game up here. We keep hearing on here that we can’t use ‘whataboutery’ - if that applies then this incident has nothing to do with anything we will hear at Ibrox/CP/Tynie/ER.

Well done to Chelsea for dealing with it at the first point.
If it's wrong in London it's wrong up here. It's the same mentality. Chelsea have groups that are racist and align themselves with Rangers. The last time I looked we were still Great Britain.
Well done to Chelsea but if its wrong at an English football ground it's wrong at a Scottish football ground.

hibbysam

13-09-2021, 08:59 PM

If it's wrong in London it's wrong up here. It's the same mentality. Chelsea have groups that are racist and align themselves with Rangers. The last time I looked we were still Great Britain.
Well done to Chelsea but if its wrong at an English football ground it's wrong at a Scottish football ground.

Of course it’s wrong - ‘nothing will change in Scotland’ when talking about a Chelsea fan shouting it is a bit weird though. If someone is racist up here would we say ‘nothing will change in England’?

Deal with incidents and hammer all involved.

AliboyFC

13-09-2021, 09:03 PM

If it's wrong in London it's wrong up here. It's the same mentality. Chelsea have groups that are racist and align themselves with Rangers. The last time I looked we were still Great Britain.
Well done to Chelsea but if its wrong at an English football ground it's wrong at a Scottish football ground.

Everything is rangers rangers rangers! I know they are the worst for it but celtic piss me off too. Like when celtic posted a gay pride post on instagram some comments from the celtic fans were pathetic. "What happened to our Catholic values" someone said. Just stfu it's 2021 your football club should have nothing to do with your religion or views it should be about your club and nothing else. So glad am a hibs fan.

expresso

13-09-2021, 09:08 PM

Everything is rangers rangers rangers! I know they are the worst for it but celtic piss me off too. Like when celtic posted a gay pride post on instagram some comments from the celtic fans were pathetic. "What happened to our Catholic values" someone said. Just stfu it's 2021 your football club should have nothing to do with your religion or views it should be about your club and nothing else. So glad am a hibs fan.

You made this up

AliboyFC

13-09-2021, 09:09 PM

You made this up

Did I **** I saw that comment with my own eyes.

expresso

13-09-2021, 09:15 PM

Did I **** I saw that comment with my own eyes.

Majority of Celtic fans these days have no love for the Catholic Church.
So I’ll calling bull**** on your post.

AliboyFC

13-09-2021, 09:17 PM

Majority of Celtic fans these days have no love for the Catholic Church.
So I’ll calling bull**** on your post.

Why tf would I bull****. And you're having a laugh they might not be as bad as the rangers but they are still a sectarian club.

ABZHFC

13-09-2021, 09:18 PM

There were large groups singing it in the numpty sections closest to us on either side but the majority of Hearts fans didn’t. They have a problem but let’s not pretend that the vast majority of Hearts fans aren’t opposed to this crap.

Hmmmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpUDlVB0wPQ&ab_channel=KieranWalker

I agree that they don't have a huge issue with it like Rangers, but it definitely rears its head enough to be commented upon

hibbysam

13-09-2021, 09:20 PM

Majority of Celtic fans these days have no love for the Catholic Church.
So I’ll calling bull**** on your post.

‘Majority’ 😂

expresso

13-09-2021, 09:20 PM

Why tf would I bull****. And you're having a laugh they might not be as bad as the rangers but they are still a sectarian club.

You tell me.
Post a few screenshots of all this homophobic comments and I’ll believe you.

AliboyFC

13-09-2021, 09:23 PM

You tell me.
Post a few screenshots of all this homophobic comments and I’ll believe you.

I've tried idk how to add attachments on the mobile hibs.net but you can see for yourself. It's pathetic that I have to prove it why tf would I lie 😂.

Paul1642

13-09-2021, 09:25 PM

You tell me.
Post a few screenshots of all this homophobic comments and I’ll believe you.

Why are you on such a defensive about this? Had the poster made the same claim about rangers fans (change wording to Protestant values) would you have doubted him? Their fans are a horrible bunch and I have no problem at all believing that posts like that would have been the made. It will no doubt have been retrospectively moderated so don’t the hold your breath for screenshots now.

The Harp Awakes

13-09-2021, 09:35 PM

One individual.....not tens of thousands.
And contrast the attitude of the club involved, with the way Sevco would react.

Spot on. 40000+ hun bigots sing their cheer up song at our former managers Alan Stubbs and Neil Lennon in the dug out at Ibrox. Steve Clarke gets the same with Killie. Nobody in Scotland bats an eyelid.

1 Chelsea fan pipes up and the club take swift action.

:rolleyes:

expresso

13-09-2021, 09:42 PM

Why are you on such a defensive about this? Had the poster made the same claim about rangers fans (change wording to Protestant values) would you have doubted him? Their fans are a horrible bunch and I have no problem at all believing that posts like that would have been the made. It will no doubt have been retrospectively moderated so don’t the hold your breath for screenshots now.

I’m not denying their fans have sectarian issues the same as sevco maybe not quite as bad but homophobia isn’t rampant among the lesser greens.
Just calling out this drivel not being defensive at all.

Logie Green

13-09-2021, 09:43 PM

I wonder if Rangers aren't allowing any away fans into Ibrox just now in case they capture similar footage. Shouldn't be difficult.

Away fans are allowed in at Ibrox.

Pagan Hibernia

13-09-2021, 09:46 PM

Is It On....

13-09-2021, 09:47 PM

I feel as though it’s all finally unravelling. I sincerely hope it continues.

Never in Scotland..Steve Clarke got this when Kilmarnock manager and the authorities did nothing.

Pagan Hibernia

13-09-2021, 09:47 PM

I’m not denying their fans have sectarian issues the same as sevco maybe not quite as bad but homophobia isn’t rampant among the lesser greens.
Just calling out this drivel not being defensive at all.

it’s perfectly plausible that one Celtic weirdo posted something like that.

you’re correct though, it’s certainly not many of them

AliboyFC

13-09-2021, 09:55 PM

AliboyFC

13-09-2021, 09:56 PM

Enough evidence??

mcohibs

13-09-2021, 10:09 PM

I’m not denying their fans have sectarian issues the same as sevco maybe not quite as bad but homophobia isn’t rampant among the lesser greens.
Just calling out this drivel not being defensive at all.

You're wrong on this mate. If you have Instagram go and look at the gay pride post celtic put up last week. Comments are horrendous and very homophobic. And I'm talking hundreds of them.

Quoting directly from the comments, 'What happened to our Catholic values?' and' I thought Celtic was a Catholic club with family values'. Plenty more of that as well. Not 'drivel' from the poster in the slightest

The Harp Awakes

13-09-2021, 10:10 PM

Hmmmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpUDlVB0wPQ&ab_channel=KieranWalker

I agree that they don't have a huge issue with it like Rangers, but it definitely rears its head enough to be commented upon

I was speaking to a former Hearts coach who lives near me, not long after he attended the infamous derby at Tiny when Lennon was our Manager. He had taken his young grandson along to the game and was sitting a few rows behind the dugouts.

He said that the sectarian abuse directed at Lennon that day by supporters around them was shocking. Almost walked out with the lad as he didn't want him hearing it.

007

13-09-2021, 10:36 PM

Away fans are allowed in at Ibrox.

They're not at the moment.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/motherwell-fans-face-ibrox-lock-out-on-rangers-flag-day-fixture-3381374

Kato

13-09-2021, 10:42 PM

I was speaking to a former Hearts coach who lives near me, not long after he attended the infamous derby at Tiny when Lennon was our Manager. He had taken his young grandson along to the game and was sitting a few rows behind the dugouts.

He said that the sectarian abuse directed at Lennon that day by supporters around them was shocking. Almost walked out with the lad as he didn't want him hearing it.You could hear it loud and clear on the radio.

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Jim44

13-09-2021, 11:02 PM

I feel as though it’s all finally unravelling. I sincerely hope it continues.

Sadly, I think you’ll be disappointed. Rangers are are too big and important to be concerned about any reaction from the SFA. Bigotry and discrimination are an essential part of the Rangers ethos and will always remain the backbone of their existence. Even their hierarchy is steeped in religious and political fundamentalism and will never be persuaded to stray from it, despite occasional insincere lip-service.

BobMilne

14-09-2021, 04:58 AM

Hibernian Verse

14-09-2021, 07:16 AM

Sadly, I think you’ll be disappointed. Rangers are are too big and important to be concerned about any reaction from the SFA. Bigotry and discrimination are an essential part of the Rangers ethos and will always remain the backbone of their existence. Even their hierarchy is steeped in religious and political fundamentalism and will never be persuaded to stray from it, despite occasional insincere lip-service.

You're correct re the SFA. Unfortunately we will need our club and all others to relinquish the control they have over the game in Scotland (SPFL not SFA). It's mental that the clubs make all the decisions, stopping any kind of progress for all. IMO of course.

FilipinoHibs

14-09-2021, 07:26 AM

Itsnoteasy

14-09-2021, 08:43 AM

Not a club well known for abusing Catholics, i don’t think.

I guess Celtic don't sing sectarian songs.

hibsbollah

14-09-2021, 09:21 AM

I guess Celtic don't sing sectarian songs.

Abzhibs was obviously specifically talking about anti catholic abuse from Rangers and Hearts fans. ‘What about Celtic’ is just whataboutery. This is why the problem at hand never gets dealt with In Scotland.

hibbysam

14-09-2021, 10:08 AM

Abzhibs was obviously specifically talking about anti catholic abuse from Rangers and Hearts fans. ‘What about Celtic’ is just whataboutery. This is why the problem at hand never gets dealt with In Scotland.

So is ‘what about Rangers’ when we are talking about an incident that happened at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea, London…

Anti-catholic, anti-Protestant, anti-Jew, anti-black/chinese etc all one of the same thing.

blackpoolhibs

14-09-2021, 10:09 AM

Just been in the car listening to talksport, and Jim White has just told Britain how the rangers and celtic have taken great strides in tackling the issue in Scotland. :faf:

What a prick that man really is.:rolleyes:

Gaffer1875

14-09-2021, 10:20 AM

I’m sick of hearing from The Rangers fans ‘it’s only words’ it’s high time something was done in Scotland and not ignored.

Well done to Chelsea

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lord bunberry

14-09-2021, 10:28 AM

https://youtu.be/VbxIdKA5JMM
https://youtu.be/VbxIdKA5JMM

Lendo

14-09-2021, 12:24 PM

https://youtu.be/VbxIdKA5JMM
https://youtu.be/VbxIdKA5JMM

I think the “We are the People” at the end tells us all we need to know about who this individual supports.

Kato

14-09-2021, 12:26 PM

I think the “We are the People” at the end tells us all we need to know about who this individual supports.Exactly, West of Scotland FC.

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One Day Soon

14-09-2021, 12:49 PM

The Ugly Sisters. Forever united in a symbiotic sectarian relationship feeding like a parasite on the blood of Scottish football.

The profoundly distorted religious cultural base they have benefitted from gives them a reach and advantage way beyond the geographical boundaries of any other competitor.

I'll believe they're serious about confronting sectarianism on the day they advocate for strict liability, conduct joint press conferences to condemn it and routinely start to permanently remove those demonstrating any kind of sectarianism week in and week out - not just when it blows up in the media. Until then they can both get in the ****ing sea.

hibsbollah

14-09-2021, 01:12 PM

So is ‘what about Rangers’ when we are talking about an incident that happened at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea, London…

Anti-catholic, anti-Protestant, anti-Jew, anti-black/chinese etc all one of the same thing.

I believe that was brought up because Rangers and Chelsea have a well established hooligan link, which isn’t sectarian as much as far right. It’s time to talk about Rangers in these terms, because that’s what it is. ‘Two cheeks of the same arse’ just doesn’t sufficiently explain it.

Wilson

14-09-2021, 02:16 PM

I think the “We are the People” at the end tells us all we need to know about who this individual supports.

Senator Charles Palantine?

Rumble de Thump

14-09-2021, 02:28 PM

So it was actually a Sevco fan who abused John McGinn at Stamford Bridge? It must have come as a bit of a shock to the guy that he's been pulled up for it. In Ibrox he'd normally be surrounded by thousands of cretins doing exactly the same thing and nothing would be done about it. Is McGinn even a Catholic or was that kind of abuse hurled at him just because he used to play for Hibs?

Turkish Green

14-09-2021, 02:33 PM

Not a club well known for abusing Catholics, i don’t think.

Up here it is sectarianism. Down south it is racism.

Celtic get away with it as their "fenian" songs are not considered anti-religion and hence not sectarian. Rangers and Chelsea supporters are cut from the same cloth and support one another equally. No surprise that the culprit had a Scottish accent, he'll be a day-tripper from Castle Greyskull.

heretoday

14-09-2021, 02:36 PM

hibbysam

14-09-2021, 05:38 PM

I believe that was brought up because Rangers and Chelsea have a well established hooligan link, which isn’t sectarian as much as far right. It’s time to talk about Rangers in these terms, because that’s what it is. ‘Two cheeks of the same arse’ just doesn’t sufficiently explain it.

So speaking about Rangers in a thread about Chelsea is ok, but bringing up Celtic is just whataboutery? Gotcha.

hibsbollah

14-09-2021, 05:39 PM

So speaking about Rangers in a thread about Chelsea is ok, but bringing up Celtic is just whataboutery? Gotcha.

Correct.

Rumble de Thump

14-09-2021, 06:12 PM

So speaking about Rangers in a thread about Chelsea is ok, but bringing up Celtic is just whataboutery? Gotcha.

It was a Sevco fan at a Chelsea v Aston Villa match.

gbhibby

14-09-2021, 06:33 PM

It was a Sevco fan at a Chelsea v Aston Villa match.
Will he get an "indefinite" ban from Ibrox then

DaveF

14-09-2021, 06:37 PM

It was a Sevco fan at a Chelsea v Aston Villa match.

Nobody has been caught yet have they?

hibbysam

14-09-2021, 06:47 PM

It was a Sevco fan at a Chelsea v Aston Villa match.

While it most likely will have been, there hasn’t been any proof of that. It’s a Chelsea fan at a Chelsea game in London.

Rumble de Thump

14-09-2021, 06:51 PM

While it most likely will have been, there hasn’t been any proof of that. It’s a Chelsea fan at a Chelsea game in London.

Is it a Chelsea fan because they weren't in the away end at Chelsea game? The language used shows it is certainly a Sevco fan. The video clip is the proof.

Since90+2

14-09-2021, 06:52 PM

The guy shouting has a Scottish accent doesn't he? Probably doesn't take Columbo to take a guess at what his Scottish team is.

DaveF

14-09-2021, 07:04 PM

The guy shouting has a Scottish accent doesn't he? Probably doesn't take Columbo to take a guess at what his Scottish team is.

You are correct but let's wait until Billy McBilly has been unmasked and charged before being sure.

Rumble de Thump

14-09-2021, 07:06 PM

Doesn't he shout "We are the people" after hurling anti-Catholic abuse?

CMurdoch

14-09-2021, 07:08 PM

hibsbollah

14-09-2021, 07:16 PM

A few days ago I watched a documentary on the BBC iplayer about Mark Walters and the racist abuse he received after signing for Rangers.
The documentary was also coincidently about the first black player in Scotland, Andrew Watson.
Included in the part about the racial abuse Walters received was a section about away games against Hearts and Celtic where he was pelted with fruit and coins especially when taking corners. I had remembered it happening at Tynecastle but not Parkhead. Those self confessed great fans at Celtic guilty of the most hellish and stark racism. Archie MacPherson put his head above the parapet at the time on national TV and called it out for the it was.

I’m not sure how old you are but I remember it very clearly. In those days Walters was a curiosity, and thousands of fans, Celtic, Hearts, whoever, thought the banana thing was harmless and funny. (I’m not sure ‘banter’ was as commonplace a word then but the message was the same, or just watch footage of Gary Mackay making monkey noises at Kevin Harper, clear as day and he becomes an anti racism ambassador shortly afterwards) :dunno: Shameful really. No team had an unblemished record by modern standards back then.

CentreLine

14-09-2021, 07:34 PM

A few days ago I watched a documentary on the BBC iplayer about Mark Walters and the racist abuse he received after signing for Rangers.
The documentary was also coincidently about the first black player in Scotland, Andrew Watson.
Included in the part about the racial abuse Walters received was a section about away games against Hearts and Celtic where he was pelted with fruit and coins especially when taking corners. I had remembered it happening at Tynecastle but not Parkhead. Those self confessed great fans at Celtic guilty of the most hellish and stark racism. Archie MacPherson put his head above the parapet at the time on national TV and called it out for the abomination it was.

There was a video on here, last time this was discussed, that showed hearts players singing in a racially abusive manner at their black winger. Gary McKay era, probably late 80’s. Not sure where to find it now but even at the time it was shocking. I seem to remember John Robertson looking uncomfortable and not really joining in. It would certainly be in his character not to be involved but I may be wrong.

DaveF

14-09-2021, 07:37 PM

There was a video on here, last time this was discussed, that showed hearts players singing in a racially abusive manner at their black winger. Gary McKay era, probably late 80’s. Not sure where to find it now but even at the time it was shocking. I seem to remember John Robertson looking uncomfortable and not really joining in. It would certainly be in his character not to be involved but I may be wrong.

Was it Jose Quitongo on a bus back from Hampden?

JimBHibees

14-09-2021, 07:39 PM

Was it Jose Quitongo on a bus back from Hampden?

Yep think so.

CentreLine

14-09-2021, 07:39 PM

Was it Jose Quitongo on a bus back from Hampden?

Yes that’s the one. Remember him being a good player but couldn’t remember his name sadly. Thanks for putting that right.

ABZHFC

14-09-2021, 09:13 PM

Yes that’s the one. Remember him being a good player but couldn’t remember his name sadly. Thanks for putting that right.Even more shamefully, it was 1998 too

CentreLine

14-09-2021, 09:55 PM

Even more shamefully, it was 1998 too

As late as that? That does put it in perspective 🤨

hibbysam

14-09-2021, 10:40 PM

Is it a Chelsea fan because they weren't in the away end at Chelsea game? The language used shows it is certainly a Sevco fan. The video clip is the proof.

It’s a Chelsea fan because he’s clearly there supporting Chelsea. Anything else is guesswork, albeit educated guesswork. I’m really not sure we can expect Rangers to be dealing with crowd issues at an English premier league game in England.

WhileTheChief..

14-09-2021, 10:48 PM

Was it Jose Quitongo on a bus back from Hampden?Horrific video. All his teammates were ripping into him for not having a drink on the bus and started singing “he’s a wee black p * * f”. Racist and homophobic in one short bar. He had to smile and kinda ‘go along’ with the banter. Really uncomfortable viewing.

Rumble de Thump

14-09-2021, 11:04 PM

It’s a Chelsea fan because he’s clearly there supporting Chelsea. Anything else is guesswork, albeit educated guesswork. I’m really not sure we can expect Rangers to be dealing with crowd issues at an English premier league game in England.

I'm not sure what this means. There was nothing in the clip to suggest he was supporting Chelsea so that is guesswork, unless you think abusing an opponent equates to supporting Chelsea. He shouted We Are The People, which is famously the slogan of Sevco fans. That's not guesswork.

I don't think anyone has suggested Sevco should be dealing with crowd issues at an English Premier League game in England. They should have been stamping out sectarianisn within their support decades ago so I wouldn't even expect them to deal with crowd issues at Ibrox. In this case, Chelsea are obviosuly planning to ban the guy from future matches. Sevco would gladly take his money as they do with the rest of their sectarian supporters.

hibbysam

14-09-2021, 11:54 PM

I'm not sure what this means. There was nothing in the clip to suggest he was supporting Chelsea so that is guesswork, unless you think abusing an opponent equates to supporting Chelsea. He shouted We Are The People, which is famously the slogan of Sevco fans. That's not guesswork.

I don't think anyone has suggested Sevco should be dealing with crowd issues at an English Premier League game in England. They should have been stamping out sectarianisn within their support decades ago so I wouldn't even expect them to deal with crowd issues at Ibrox. In this case, Chelsea are obviosuly planning to ban the guy from future matches. Sevco would gladly take his money as they do with the rest of their sectarian supporters.

He was in the Chelsea end at a game involving Chelsea and Aston Villa. That’s not guesswork that’s a fact. If we’re not expecting Rangers to deal with this (and they have no reason to) then why would we bring Rangers into the conversation. And if we are then quite frankly we should be laying it all out on the table, including Celtic, and stamping the whole lot out. Not crying whataboutery when someone brings Celtic into the conversation.

Baader

15-09-2021, 10:23 AM

Senator Charles Palantine?

Brilliant.

ancient hibee

15-09-2021, 01:07 PM

We
Was it Jose Quitongo on a bus back from Hampden?

His son plays for Airdrie and is today complaining about racist remarks from an Airdrie supporter.

hibsbollah

15-09-2021, 01:16 PM

We

His son plays for Airdrie and is today complaining about racist remarks from an Airdrie supporter.

Is that Rico? Played for my sons boy club for a while, hell of a good player.

CMurdoch

15-09-2021, 02:00 PM

Is that Rico? Played for my sons boy club for a while, hell of a good player.

It is.
How good would it have been if the players had just gone in and dragged the walopper out.

cabbageandribs1875

15-09-2021, 08:34 PM

Rico Quitongo: Airdrie defender says he was racially abused by one of team's own fans - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58568890)

Airdrie's Rico Quitongo says he was racially abused by one of his team's own fans during Saturday's Scottish League 1 draw with Queen's Park.
Quitongo said he is "not surprised" but "hugely disappointed" and added "more needs done for cowards to change".

Airdrie confirmed they are investigating the incident and warned they will impose a lifetime ban on "any individual using racist language".
Airdrie have appealed for witnesses to contact the club in confidence.

Carheenlea

15-09-2021, 08:37 PM

Always the same old clubs.

DaveF

16-09-2021, 09:21 PM

Still no culprit identified. I wonder how hard Chelsea are actually trying.

PatHead

16-09-2021, 10:13 PM

Horrific video. All his teammates were ripping into him for not having a drink on the bus and started singing “he’s a wee black p * * f”. Racist and homophobic in one short bar. He had to smile and kinda ‘go along’ with the banter. Really uncomfortable viewing.

But it is okay for The Rangers supporters to spout that bile at Easter Road because it creates an atmosphere? Really uncomfortable posting.

DaveF

22-10-2021, 07:20 PM

Watching villa tonight reminded me that I'd never read of how Chelsea got on with their investigation into the sectarian abuse he suffered. A quick scan of Google shows not articles since the day after it happened.

I fail to believe that guy could not be found but if there has been no arrest or update then I guess he has got away with it.