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Jonnyboy
12-09-2021, 03:46 PM
Suffering from a healthy dose of pre Derby nerves I got a lift to my spirits when I heard who would be in our starting eleven as this was an attacking line up and not, in my view, one that would simply sit back and allow Hearts to dictate the run of play. Thankfully, Boyle was fit and all the concerns that he would miss the game were dismissed. One player that did miss out was Jake Doyle Hayes and his spot was taken by a fit again Joe Newell.

There was the usual pre game approach to the ground with dozens of Hibs fans marching and singing, past the Roseburn Bar and up to the stadium. They were both noisy and colourful and in good spirits ahead of kick off. Getting in was a bit of a pain as the police were only letting a limited number beyond their mounted officers, at a time. Still, I was in my seat before kick off as were the vast majority of Hibs fans.

In the early exchanges it became obvious that both teams wanted to attack when the opportunity presented itself. So many times, I’ve been to Tynecastle and witnessed a Hibs side looking intimidated by the occasion, but not today. Within the first couple of minutes, both Porteous and Halkett conceded free kicks and for me that was a statement of intent; there would be no bullying today.

Around seven minutes in, a fine flowing move down our right allowed Cadden to pick out Nisbet in the centre of the box but unfortunately Kevin’s first time effort was screwed wide of the goal. Hearts seemed intent on going at us straight down the middle and whilst it sometimes caused problems, we were almost at the quarter hour mark before they had a decent attempt on goal. Loanee Ben Woodburn collected a pass from Mackay-Steven and made a bit of space for himself before just clearing the bar with an effort from eighteen yards. Hearts then won a couple of corners and might have caught Hibs out if Mackay-Steven hadn’t made a total hash of his effort from the edge of the box.

The hosts were enjoying a wee bit of possession without looking overly threatening at this stage and in fact the next goalmouth action came when Craig Gordon clattered in to Martin Boyle as they contested a high ball. Referee Nick Walsh awarded a free kick against the Hibs man when in fact it was Gordon who clattered Boyle. As the half hour approached, Hearts upped the tempo a bit and a cracking effort from Mackay-Steven brought out a top drawer save from Matt Macey. Kingsley and Halkett were both denied before Nisbet shot high and wide at the other end when a square pass to the waiting Boyle might have offered more of a chance of a goal.

On thirty five minutes, Craig Gordon pulled off an outstanding one handed save to deny a rocket shot from Martin Boyle and I felt at that point, and club loyalties apart, that Gordon is by far and away the best keeper in Scotland right now.

With half time fast approaching, both Mackay-Steven and Woodburn had efforts on goal blocked before Hibs raced up the other end and Boyle brought out another fine stop from Gordon. Bizarrely, Nick Walsh gave a goal kick when even from my view from the opposite end of the park it was clearly a corner. Indeed, Gordon himself said in his post-match interview that he’d saved the effort so it would seem only Nick Walsh missed the obvious.

James Scott, who had looked quite lethargic during the first half, was replaced by Alex Gogic and two minutes into the half he found Cadden wide right with a good pass. Cadden, who had been showing well, was scythed down by Cochrane, the Hearts man earning the first booking of the game. That man Mackay-Steven was at it again soon after, but his shot was blocked by Paul McGinn. At the other end, Boyle had an effort suffer a similar outcome with Kevin Nisbet frustrated that Boyle hadn’t squared the ball with the goal gaping.

Following a Hibs corner, Hearts looked to break quickly through Mackay-Steven, but Joe Newell hauled the Hearts man down and was booked for the offence. Moments later, Craig Gordon was at it again in saving a netbound effort by Kyle Magennis. Next, we witnessed a stunning double save by Matt Macey who denied Mackay-Steven at close range. Shortly after that, Mackay-Steven, easily the biggest threat in the home side, was replaced by Josh Ginnelly, a decision that angered the home support. Still, Ginnelly brought pace to the Hearts right and Neilson probably thought his man would terrorise Josh Doig, but it was a misguided view because Ginnelly was hugely ineffective in his time on the park.

Neilson was trying everything to secure that vital first goal and both Smith and Woodburn were replaced by Taylor Moore and Barrie McKay, the former going on to hack Magennis down three times on the trot without punishment whilst the latter’s only real contribution to the proceedings was a chance to show off his Jack Grealish hairstyle.

Hearts were huffing and puffing a bit and looked to have started to run out of ideas and Hibs tried to take advantage of that with Gogic lashing a left footed effort just wide of the post and then Magennis was denied by another outstanding save from Gordon. With ten minutes left, Kevin Nisbet wheeled on a ball that was dropping over his shoulder and hammered a left footed volley just wide of Gordon’s goal. There is no doubt in my mind that if the effort had been on target even Craig Gordon wouldn’t have saved it.

The pace of the game was, unsurprisingly, slowing but both sides continued in their efforts to break the deadlock. I heard a couple of comments from around me that we had settled for a draw and yet two minutes in to time added on, Craig Gordon was twice called into action to deny first Nisbet and then Magennis. The last effort of the game is hardly worthy of mention as Ginnelly danced across the face of the Hibs eighteen yard box and struck a left footed effort some ten yards wide of the goal.

Honours even in what I thought was a decent game of football – not often the case in a Derby – and I guess you could say it was a game of two outstanding goalkeeping performances.

The players

Macey – I know he’s had his doubters and I confess he’s worried me a couple of times in games gone by, but he was outstanding today and beats one or two others who were in contention for my man of the match award.

McGinn – For me, he has come through the other side of his little rocky patch, perhaps buoyed by his recent international debut, and he was spot on today both defensively and when breaking forward.

Porteous – Other than a couple of dodgy passes out from the back, Ryan was fabulous today, particularly in defending loads of high balls in to our box. I think he frightened the life out of Woodman who was left on his erky more than once by the big fella.

Hanlon – Another who has his critics, I think even those people must agree he was tremendous today. It’s significant that Liam Boyce was kept very quiet and that was in no small part due to Paul’s defending.

Doig – I actually thought Josh was quieter than of late and didn’t really get forward as often as I’ve seen him do so in the past but, hey he still placed Ginnelly firmly in his back pocket.

Cadden – Considering he’s been out for some weeks, Chris contributed really well and the fact he lasted almost the whole ninety minutes is testimony to his regained fitness.

Magennis – Other than a wee ten minute spell or so in the second half, Kyle was the player he’s shown himself to be this season. Astonishing workrate and not shy of being physical when the need arises. Was denied a goal today only by a wonderful save from Craig Gordon.

Newell – Slotted seamlessly into his midfield role and was prominent throughout. He came close to getting my man of the match award.

Scott – Never really got going in the game, whether through injury or not it was no surprise he was replaced at half time.

Boyle – Incredibly, he wasn’t hacked down nearly as often as what’s become the norm of late. Tested Gordon a couple of times and tested the patience of both Nisbet and Magennis when he decided to shoot rather than lift his head and see the pass that might have brought a goal.

Nisbet – Not one of Kevin’s better games I thought. Seemed to choose the wrong option at times but his volley from the over the shoulder pass deserved a better outcome.

Gogic – Played well enough for the most part and stifled Haring to an extent. Two efforts at goal that weren’t too shabby!

Wright – Only got a few minutes but the encouraging thing for me is that he was cheered by the Hibs fans when he came on.

Jack Ross – A brave team selection and I’m glad he made it.

Referee – Nick Walsh offered the usual bunch of odd decisions but otherwise I thought he did ok.

kaimendhibs
12-09-2021, 03:58 PM
Word for word what I watched. Great report

Lago
12-09-2021, 04:10 PM
Word for word what I watched. Great report
Agree

AZhibee
12-09-2021, 04:11 PM
Thanks Jonnyboy.

matty_f
12-09-2021, 04:16 PM
Great write up, JB, as always!

expresso
12-09-2021, 04:21 PM
Great write up, JB, as always!

Eagerly await this after every match whether I’ve watched it or not.
Such a great read.

JimBHibees
12-09-2021, 04:22 PM
Excellent summary

BILLYHIBS
12-09-2021, 04:23 PM
:thumbsup:

CMurdoch
12-09-2021, 04:23 PM
Lots of positives today:
Return of Hanlon, Cadden and Newell from injury, all of whom did well.
Boyle not injured
Macey with the decisive moment of the match puts him into credit in the supporters bank
Doig first time in front of a large derby crowd will have done him good

Few negatives:
Wasteful and relatively blunt up front.
Wasteful from set pieces.
Struggled to defend their corners.
Scott's 3rd Hibs game and is still struggling to make an impression. Hope he turns the corner soon.

Overall a good game which we could have won with better finishing after the Macey wonder save.

P. S. Who were the idiot netters who told us Woodburn was rubbish?
The kid did played well and their threat disappeared when he and GMS were subbed.

P.P.S. why was Stevenson missing from the match squad? Sheltering with JDH or injured

Jonnyboy
12-09-2021, 04:29 PM
Lots of positives today:
Return of Hanlon, Cadden and Newell from injury, all of whom did well.
Boyle not injured
Macey with the decisive moment of the match puts him into credit in the supporters bank
Doig first time in front of a large derby crowd will have done him good

Few negatives:
Wasteful and relatively blunt up front.
Wasteful from set pieces.
Struggled to defend their corners.
Scott's 3rd Hibs game and is still struggling to make an impression. Hope he turns the corner soon.

Overall a good game which we could have won with better finishing after the Macey wonder save.

P. S. Who were the idiot netters who told us Woodburn was rubbish?
The kid did played well and their threat disappeared when he and GMS were subbed.

P.P.S. why was Stevenson missing from the match squad? Sheltering with JDH or injured

Don't know the answer to why he was excluded but he wasn't isolating as he came onto the pitch at the end.

NAE NOOKIE
12-09-2021, 04:30 PM
Macey definitely MOM for a couple of outstanding saves, but Gordon at the other end should have got the TV one for three that were every bit as good, that fact in itself says everything about the chances we made.

Macey .... 9 ....... Two outstanding saves, the second was better than it looked because I don't think he saw the ball until late.

McGinn .... 7 .... Worked hard up and down the pitch and far more confident on the ball than he has been of late.

Porteous .... 6 .... I agree that overall he was decent and played a full part in defending against high balls into the box, but gave me the fear a couple of times in the first half by trying to be too clever in the wrong area.

Hanlon ... 7 .... Solid throughout, but a bit lucky not to concede an OG .... I thought he couldn't decide whether to play the ball or leave it and got himself into a fankle.

Doig .... 6 .... Not really an attacking threat until late on, but did his defensive duties well for the most part.

Newell .... 7 ..... Struggled a bit to control the midfield along with Magennis, but when he was on the ball I thought he played really well.

Magennis ... 6 .... Didn't reach the heights he did against St Mirren where he had a superb game, but played his part well enough, only great goalkeeping kept him off the scoresheet.

Cadden .... 6 .... Considering he has been out for so long his fitness was excellent, played a great ball for Nisbet who could have done better with it and he defended pretty well too ... more of a 6.5 performance in fact.

Scott .... 5 .... In all honesty in his first few outings for the club he's done nothing more than show why he can't get a game for Hull City ... time will tell whether that's due to a lack of fitness and familiarity with his new team mates, or something else, absolutely no loss to the team when he was hooked at HT.

Boyle .... 6 ..... Not as involved as he can be in many games, tested Gordon with a piledriver but shot twice when a square ball might have been the better option, as usual no lack of effort though.

Nisbet .... 6 .... Not as involved outside of the box as he can be, missed a couple of decent chances to test the keeper and missed a square ball that could have presented Boyle with a near open goal .... mind, if his volley had gone in he would have been a 10, what a goal that would have been.

SUBS:

Gogic ..... 6 .... Did what he was supposed to do for the most part and came close to scoring a beauty.

Wright .... 4 .... Wasn't on long enough to really contribute.

Jack Ross .... Got pretty well everything right today, any away point at their place is a good result.

The Ref .... Let Hearts off with a few that could have been bookings and missed a clear corner to us ..... no doubt infuriated the Hearts fans when he blew for a foul when there was a clear advantage to them. Apart from that he was as ok as most refs in this country can be I suppose.

Greenbeard
12-09-2021, 04:42 PM
Not being gay or anything but I get a warm glow when I read your report JB and it matches things I've already highlighted myself to pals.
Totally agree re Gordon clattering into Boyle yet getting awarded the free kick. Boyle didn't move. A vg example of goalies being over-protected by refs.
I was v happy for the first 20 mins but then the 2nd quarter they did get into the game and initially, at least, were testing Macey more than we were Gordon.
Thought the most effective substitution from our p.o.v. was them taking off Woodburn!
With 15 to go I texted a pal and said I'd take 0-0 but then we finished the game well.
Think I'd have messed ma pants if Nisbet's volley on the turn had found the top corner.

Jim44
12-09-2021, 04:52 PM
Good slant on the proceedings, as ever, Jonnyboy.:aok:

GreenCastle
12-09-2021, 05:08 PM
Lots of positives today:
Return of Hanlon, Cadden and Newell from injury, all of whom did well.
Boyle not injured
Macey with the decisive moment of the match puts him into credit in the supporters bank
Doig first time in front of a large derby crowd will have done him good

Few negatives:
Wasteful and relatively blunt up front.
Wasteful from set pieces.
Struggled to defend their corners.
Scott's 3rd Hibs game and is still struggling to make an impression. Hope he turns the corner soon.

Overall a good game which we could have won with better finishing after the Macey wonder save.

P. S. Who were the idiot netters who told us Woodburn was rubbish?
The kid did played well and their threat disappeared when he and GMS were subbed.

P.P.S. why was Stevenson missing from the match squad? Sheltering with JDH or injured


Agree with this.

If we had had a bit more quality in final 3rd we would have won today.

I liked our formation 1st half - it was risky but felt it was working. I know they had a few chances but we played the better football.

Scott has talent but we aren’t getting enough right now and we need more players to contribute.

Alfred E Newman
12-09-2021, 06:18 PM
Good summary. Hearts have recruited well and now look a much better side. Though struggling to get possession at times we still created the best chances. Both clubs will be there or there about at the top end of the table at the end of the season. We are missing the strength of Doidge up front at the moment and JDH was missed today as well.

H18 SFR
12-09-2021, 07:17 PM
Not being gay or anything but I get a warm glow when I read your report JB and it matches things I've already highlighted myself to pals.
Totally agree re Gordon clattering into Boyle yet getting awarded the free kick. Boyle didn't move. A vg example of goalies being over-protected by refs.
I was v happy for the first 20 mins but then the 2nd quarter they did get into the game and initially, at least, were testing Macey more than we were Gordon.
Thought the most effective substitution from our p.o.v. was them taking off Woodburn!
With 15 to go I texted a pal and said I'd take 0-0 but then we finished the game well.
Think I'd have messed ma pants if Nisbet's volley on the turn had found the top corner.

Remember Greenbeard, it’s perfectly ok to be gay.

B.H.F.C
12-09-2021, 07:21 PM
Good summary. Hearts have recruited well and now look a much better side. Though struggling to get possession at times we still created the best chances. Both clubs will be there or there about at the top end of the table at the end of the season. We are missing the strength of Doidge up front at the moment and JDH was missed today as well.

Hearts do look an improved team. Not often they try to play football against us, happy for that to continue as it suits us better.

That was them with a full team, at home going for it. We more than stood up to it. We’re a better team IMO.

Alfred E Newman
12-09-2021, 07:34 PM
Hearts do look an improved team. Not often they try to play football against us, happy for that to continue as it suits us better.

That was them with a full team, at home going for it. We more than stood up to it. We’re a better team IMO.

With a full squad, definitely.

Jones28
12-09-2021, 07:46 PM
Spot on as ever JB

007
12-09-2021, 08:00 PM
Hearts do look an improved team. Not often they try to play football against us, happy for that to continue as it suits us better.

That was them with a full team, at home going for it. We more than stood up to it. We’re a better team IMO.

That was why it was a decent game to watch compared to normal. They actually tried to play football for a change.

Onceinawhile
12-09-2021, 08:28 PM
Not being gay or anything but I get a warm glow when I read your report JB and it matches things I've already highlighted myself to pals.
Totally agree re Gordon clattering into Boyle yet getting awarded the free kick. Boyle didn't move. A vg example of goalies being over-protected by refs.
I was v happy for the first 20 mins but then the 2nd quarter they did get into the game and initially, at least, were testing Macey more than we were Gordon.
Thought the most effective substitution from our p.o.v. was them taking off Woodburn!
With 15 to go I texted a pal and said I'd take 0-0 but then we finished the game well.
Think I'd have messed ma pants if Nisbet's volley on the turn had found the top corner.

Why would that make you gay?

Jdawg
12-09-2021, 09:07 PM
Newell, Hanlon, and Cadden nowhere near match fit. JDH not available along with Doidge and Murphy. Thought it was a good performance. If hearts had the same there was only one winner today.

CallumLaidlaw
12-09-2021, 09:10 PM
Good to see you again today again JB. Even if it was in the loos and you looked slightly uneasy [emoji1787][emoji1787]


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147lothian
12-09-2021, 10:46 PM
This is always the thread I look forward to most, brilliant as usual, thanks Jonnyboy

jacomo
13-09-2021, 12:19 AM
Why would that make you gay?


Being a Hibee is enough isn’t it?

At least, according to our pink neighbours it is.

Since452
13-09-2021, 05:31 AM
Newell, Hanlon, and Cadden nowhere near match fit. JDH not available along with Doidge and Murphy. Thought it was a good performance. If hearts had the same there was only one winner today.

That was Hearts chance to beat us at Tynecastle and they didn't take it.

B.H.F.C
13-09-2021, 07:09 AM
That was Hearts chance to beat us at Tynecastle and they didn't take it.

Similarly, it’s rare that we go to Tynecastle and create that many clear cut chances.

Jonnyboy
13-09-2021, 09:30 AM
Good to see you again today again JB. Even if it was in the loos and you looked slightly uneasy [emoji1787][emoji1787]


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🤣 That’s my normal look these days, Callum

Allez Hibs
13-09-2021, 09:43 AM
That was Hearts chance to beat us at Tynecastle and they didn't take it.

In the context of the season, it is definitely a better point for us than it is them.

Hermit Crab
13-09-2021, 11:12 AM
One of the better derbies, I felt we were unlucky not to nick it at the end but a draw definitely a fair result overall. That boy Bianingimi for Hearts is a player, I'll be watching him this season I think he's to good for them.

Overall I'm pleased with the draw and we will definitely be the happier team. Looking forward to the New Year clash already.

Since452
13-09-2021, 12:28 PM
Encouraging that the next time we play them we'll have Doidge, Murphy, JDH, Mueller and Tait available :flag:

oneone73
13-09-2021, 12:30 PM
Encouraging that the next time we play them we'll have Doidge, Murphy, JDH, Mueller and Tait available :flag:

I think I read Mueller is after January 2?

Since452
13-09-2021, 12:32 PM
I think I read Mueller is after January 2?

You might be right. I just assumed he's be joining us on the 1st.

Hermit Crab
13-09-2021, 12:41 PM
You might be right. I just assumed he's be joining us on the 1st.


Not sure he'd be able to get a flight over to be with us on the 1st.

B.H.F.C
13-09-2021, 12:42 PM
Not sure he'd be able to get a flight over to be with us on the 1st.

The MLS season will have been finished for weeks. Would imagine he’ll be with us in plenty time.

Springbank
13-09-2021, 12:44 PM
Encouraging that the next time we play them we'll have Doidge, Murphy, JDH, Mueller and Tait available :flag:

Really agreed with every word on your report Johnnyboy, great stuff, and fair play in crediting a couple of the opponents (would think last season would have gone a lot closer in Glasgow if Gordon had been kept on at Celtic)

With my green tinted specs on, I agreed with your summary of all of our players (Macey, McGinn, Hanlon, Porteous, Doig and Scott in particular)

My only "what if" was "what if we'd been able to push the boat out to get Mueller in last month instead of getting Scott on loan.

Oh and was Dan Mackay out of the squad with illness, do you know?

I would have personally liked to see him come on in place of James Scott yesterday, but at half time realised he wasn't on the bench!

Hermit Crab
13-09-2021, 12:50 PM
The MLS season will have been finished for weeks. Would imagine he’ll be with us in plenty time.


Didn't realise that. :aok:

nonshinyfinish
13-09-2021, 12:53 PM
Really agreed with every word on your report Johnnyboy, great stuff, and fair play in crediting a couple of the opponents (would think last season would have gone a lot closer in Glasgow if Gordon had been kept on at Celtic)

With my green tinted specs on, I agreed with your summary of all of our players (Macey, McGinn, Hanlon, Porteous, Doig and Scott in particular)

My only "what if" was "what if we'd been able to push the boat out to get Mueller in last month instead of getting Scott on loan.

Oh and was Dan Mackay out of the squad with illness, do you know?

I would have personally liked to see him come on in place of James Scott yesterday, but at half time realised he wasn't on the bench!

MacKay was on the original teamsheet but was replaced by Gullan late on, so perhaps tweaked something during the warm up?

oneone73
13-09-2021, 12:54 PM
The MLS season will have been finished for weeks. Would imagine he’ll be with us in plenty time.

Season ends on December 11. His contract might be until December 31?

Springbank
13-09-2021, 12:55 PM
MacKay was on the original teamsheet but was replaced by Gullan late on, so perhaps tweaked something during the warm up?

ahh cheers

we were caught in the weird police kettling policy outside the ground (during a pandemic, seemed like the worst possible way to police a crowd) and got in just before kickoff so I hadnt seen that - thanks

hope it's not too serious as I think we could use a fit and improving Dan MacKay between now and January / Doige return / Mueller arrival

007
13-09-2021, 12:57 PM
Season ends on December 11. His contract might be until December 31?

Does that stop him from training with us for the 3 weeks (if his current club aren't arsey about it)? Genuine question.

nonshinyfinish
13-09-2021, 01:02 PM
Does that stop him from training with us for the 3 weeks (if his current club aren't arsey about it)? Genuine question.

No – we can't register him until the January window opens, but the only thing that would stop him training with us once the MLS season finishes would be if Orlando decide to be pricks about the last few days/weeks of his contract. Can't see what they would gain from it.

CallumLaidlaw
13-09-2021, 01:04 PM
Encouraging that the next time we play them we'll have Doidge, Murphy, JDH, Mueller and Tait available :flag:

Won’t have Tait. We agreed to let Raith keep him for the Fife Derby on 2nd Jan.


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oneone73
13-09-2021, 01:10 PM
Won’t have Tait. We agreed to let Raith keep him for the Fife Derby on 2nd Jan.


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Think that may have been who I was thinking about when I mentioned Mueller. D'oh.

Since452
13-09-2021, 02:08 PM
Won’t have Tait. We agreed to let Raith keep him for the Fife Derby on 2nd Jan.


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Petrie! :grr:

CMurdoch
13-09-2021, 02:30 PM
No – we can't register him until the January window opens, but the only thing that would stop him training with us once the MLS season finishes would be if Orlando decide to be pricks about the last few days/weeks of his contract. Can't see what they would gain from it.

The MLS play offs start on November 19th and the Final is on December 11rh.
Presuming Orlando make the play offs but get turfed before the final.
A couple of weeks for Muller to say his goodbyes and tie up all loose ends before firing across here mid December.
Two weeks to acclimatise, meet staff and players and learn what he needs to know and ready to play on Jan 2nd if selected.