Strikers

[at last 61]

No striker's on the bench today badly need to get someone in until the new year, even someone who is getting on a bit that could come on for the last 20 minutes would not cost too much as it would be for about 16 weeks

[Bridge hibs]

No striker's on the bench today badly need to get someone in until the new year, even someone who is getting on a bit that could come on for the last 20 minutes would not cost too much as it would be for about 16 weeksApart from Gullan ?

[Magpie]

The problem is that anyone who is free now probably hasn’t even had much of a pre season under their belt so it would take until January to get up to full fitness. We have to give Gullan more game time.

[Unseen work]

The issue with Gullan is he’s not really a striker, through his youth career and first team he’s often played left of a front 3.

Fwiw I rate Gullan and think he has a lot of potential and ability but it seems the management don’t and that’s fair enough as they see him every day.

But looking at that bench today you knew who was going to come on and under what circumstance.

[at last 61]

Connar Whickham still available, hal Robson something 😁 is still available can't think of many more of the top of my head

[ahibby]

Could do with a forward who can take it in and hold it up, a Mixu type.

[jeffers]

Wasn’t just the lack of strikers, our bench contained three players the manager wants rid of. They had players today to bring on who could have made a difference (not saying I’d want them at us), we didn’t.

[Heisenberg]

Wasn’t just the lack of strikers, our bench contained three players the manager wants rid of. They had players today to bring on who could have made a difference (not saying I’d want them at us), we didn’t.

Our squad depth is definitely an issue at the moment. Hopefully we can scrape through till January without too many more injury issues.

[Torto7]

Scott can play as the target man/link role but he needs to drop half a stone. His conditioning is awful.

I'd imagine bringing in a player on a free we'd face the same issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the youngsters on the bench soon. Young Laidlaw looked like he's had a growth spurt when I watched him for the Sco u17's.

[Centre Hawf]

Our depth is a huge concern for me going forward. Our bench is week and those on it either won't come on to change games or were almost punted at the end of the window.

[SaulGoodman]

Get O’Connor on the bench

[Jim44]

Wasn’t just the lack of strikers, our bench contained three players the manager wants rid of. They had players today to bring on who could have made a difference (not saying I’d want them at us), we didn’t.

I think it’s a wee bit unfair to say that JR wants rid of them. Ok, he sees them as ‘expendable’, as the McCart fiasco suggested but there’s four months left till Christmas and to label and consider these players as ‘unwanted’ is rash. I would love to see SA get a bit more game time and prove the doubters wrong.

[JohnM1875]

Apart from Gullan ?

Come on. Gullan is nowhere near our plans.

[NC1875]

Scott can play as the target man/link role but he needs to drop half a stone. His conditioning is awful.

I'd imagine bringing in a player on a free we'd face the same issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the youngsters on the bench soon. Young Laidlaw looked like he's had a growth spurt when I watched him for the Sco u17's.

Glad you know his weight and bmi.

The boys not played a lot of football and will get better with games.

[jeffers]

I think it’s a wee bit unfair to say that JR wants rid of them. Ok, he sees them as ‘expendable’, as the McCart fiasco suggested but there’s four months left till Christmas and to label and consider these players as ‘unwanted’ is rash. I would love to see SA get a bit more game time and prove the doubters wrong.

He offered two of them on a season long loan along with money to bring in one player, which would have effectively ended their careers at Hibs. I think it’s pretty clear he was happy to get rid of them.

[NOLA]

Worryingly Gullan wasn’t meant to be a sub today until Mackay was a late call off


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[truehibernian]

Sitting in 2nd, it's an ideal time to start giving young Laidlaw some game time in games. Mood in the camp is good, great time to start seeing what he can do.

[Bridge hibs]

Come on. Gullan is nowhere near our plans.I never said he was, the OP said we didnt have any Strikers on the bench, in the plans or not doesnt change the fact we did have a Striker on the bench, in fact I would have been happy if he came on for Nisbet last 10 or 15

[Centre Hawf]

I never said he was, the OP said we didnt have any Strikers on the bench, in the plans or not doesnt change the fact we did have a Striker on the bench, in fact I would have been happy if he came on for Nisbet last 10 or 15

Not sure I would have. I try to be positive about youngsters because they deserve time but I've not seen anything from him in his appearances to suggest to me he can make a game winning impact at this level.

[Bridge hibs]

Not sure I would have. I try to be positive about youngsters because they deserve time but I've not seen anything from him in his appearances to suggest to me he can make a game winning impact at this level.I think Nisbet looked a bit frustrated at times and we needed to freshen it up a bit up front

[hibbysam]

I don’t think our squad depth is a major issue, we are struggling due to so many injuries. When they (if they) all return then our squad will be packed. It’s a hard balancing act as we could’ve brought boys in but ended up with a squad far too big once they all get back.

[BoomtownHibees]

Scott can play as the target man/link role but he needs to drop half a stone. His conditioning is awful.


Whit?

[Centre Hawf]

I think Nisbet looked a bit frustrated at times and we needed to freshen it up a bit up front

I agree he looked frustrated. But Gullan wasn't the answer.

[MikeyS]

Scott can play as the target man/link role but he needs to drop half a stone. His conditioning is awful.

I'd imagine bringing in a player on a free we'd face the same issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the youngsters on the bench soon. Young Laidlaw looked like he's had a growth spurt when I watched him for the Sco u17's.

What a load ofsh*te! 🤣 how can you possibly know what he needs to drop weight wise?

He wasn't great today but he will improve and is possibly still getting used to playing with new team mates

[Borderhibbie76]

I do think we should be looking to sign a free agent striker till Jan , a big target man who can come off bench and change things for us...its a huge ask to go till Jan with what we have in forward areas. I don't agree we don't have depth tho in the squad overall, considering the likes of JDH, Doidge, Murphy, Stevenson, Mackay and Hallberg were all out/not in squad today

[Bridge hibs]

I do think we should be looking to sign a free agent striker till Jan , a big target man who can come off bench and change things for us...its a huge ask to go till Jan with what we have in forward areas. I don't agree we don't have depth tho in the squad overall, considering the likes of JDH, Doidge, Murphy, Stevenson, Mackay and Hallberg were all out/not in squad todayWhat was up with Stevenson ?

[Peevemor]

I do think we should be looking to sign a free agent striker till Jan , a big target man who can come off bench and change things for us...its a huge ask to go till Jan with what we have in forward areas. I don't agree we don't have depth tho in the squad overall, considering the likes of JDH, Doidge, Murphy, Stevenson, Mackay and Hallberg were all out/not in squad todayI'm pretty sure that if you sign a player (not a loan) the contract has to run until at least the end of the current season.

[Borderhibbie76]

What was up with Stevenson ?

No idea mate I'd actually have liked him to start today up against GMS - thought Doig was poor today

[Heckys Wheel]

Doidge is such a big loss, especially today.

The amount of balls in the box today that Nisbet was never going to win, I’m certain Doidge would’ve given their defenders a lot more to think about today.

[Borderhibbie76]

Doidge is such a big loss, especially today.

The amount of balls in the box today that Nisbet was never going to win, I’m certain Doidge would’ve given their defenders a lot more to think about today.

Agreed we miss him a lot mate - have nobody similar to the big man

[Centre Hawf]

I'm pretty sure that if you sign a player (not a loan) the contract has to run until at least the end of the current season.

You can sign a player on any length of contract I believe but due to registration most folk tend to be signed up till a window at least. We signed Mavrias (the Greek RB under Lennon) on a short contract that ended in early January

[SteveHFC]

Get O’Connor on the bench

And Laidlaw.

[CockneyRebel]

Connar Whickham still available, hal Robson something 😁 is still available can't think of many more of the top of my head



He is still available because he is an almost permanent sick note. Never got over some horrific injuries from about 5 years ago.

[Allez Hibs]

James Scott doesn't look like the answer for me. He couldn't make the ball stick and thought his hold up play today was very poor.

[Peevemor]

You can sign a player on any length of contract I believe but due to registration most folk tend to be signed up till a window at least. We signed Mavrias (the Greek RB under Lennon) on a short contract that ended in early JanuaryClause 18.2


"The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until the
end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall be five years."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/regulations-on-the-status-and-transfer-of-players-june-2019.pdf%3Fcloudid%3Dao68trzk4bbaezlipx9u&ved=2ahUKEwjL4YW29vnyAhVOOhoKHQCaC8sQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3PFpLziGrH0guDSn4VeLKT

[Allez Hibs]

No striker's on the bench today badly need to get someone in until the new year, even someone who is getting on a bit that could come on for the last 20 minutes would not cost too much as it would be for about 16 weeks

Almost indefensible that and the result of the transfer window last week shambles (no fault of JRs by sounds if things). Hope it doesn't bite us and spoil the good start to the season.

[JohnM1875]

James Scott doesn't look like the answer for me. He couldn't make the ball stick and thought his hold up play today was very poor.

Reckon he needs a few more weeks and games to get up to speed before it's fair to judge him.

Pretty sure his only football for the best part of a year has been with us the past few weeks.

[Allez Hibs]

Reckon he needs a few more weeks and games to get up to speed before it's fair to judge him.

Pretty sure his only football for the best part of a year has been with us the past few weeks.

He has 5 goals in about 65 odd games so don't see him as a goal scorer. More a Llorente type hold up man. Neil McCann rated him today in half time analysis purely through where he was playing.

[Centre Hawf]

Clause 18.2


"The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until the
end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall be five years."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/regulations-on-the-status-and-transfer-of-players-june-2019.pdf%3Fcloudid%3Dao68trzk4bbaezlipx9u&ved=2ahUKEwjL4YW29vnyAhVOOhoKHQCaC8sQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3PFpLziGrH0guDSn4VeLKT

Interesting, not sure how teams get round it in that case but they certainly do.

[Peevemor]

Interesting, not sure how teams get round it in that case but they certainly do.TBH I stumbled across it when looking for something else and was a bit surprised too.

[Hibee Mac]

He has 5 goals in about 65 odd games so don't see him as a goal scorer. More a Llorente type hold up man. Neil McCann rated him today in half time analysis purely through where he was playing.I'm fairly certain he's not a hold up player. Wasn't anything like that at Well and I assume he hasn't changed his game drastically since then.

He's a winger who happens to be taller than average for that position but his hold up is relatively poor compared to Doidge etc.

I thought he looked good at Well so there's a player in there to unlock but playing him as a 10 or a 9 isn't going to get the best from him IMO

[Andy74]

I'm fairly certain he's not a hold up player. Wasn't anything like that at Well and I assume he hasn't changed his game drastically since then.

He's a winger who happens to be taller than average for that position but his hold up is relatively poor compared to Doidge etc.

I thought he looked good at Well so there's a player in there to unlock but playing him as a 10 or a 9 isn't going to get the best from him IMO

His Motherwell manager thought when he was there that he would be a future Scotland number 9.

[Hibee Mac]

His Motherwell manager thought when he was there that he would be a future Scotland number 9.Did he ever play as a number 9 for Well?

[Allez Hibs]

I'm fairly certain he's not a hold up player. Wasn't anything like that at Well and I assume he hasn't changed his game drastically since then.

He's a winger who happens to be taller than average for that position but his hold up is relatively poor compared to Doidge etc.

I thought he looked good at Well so there's a player in there to unlock but playing him as a 10 or a 9 isn't going to get the best from him IMO

He certainly doesn't look like a winger. We already have Boyle, Murphy, Wright and McKay as wingers?

[Unseen work]

Scott 100% was not a 9 or a hold up player for Motherwell.

He was on either the left or right of a front 3 and would get the ball played to feet and run at the opposition. Very very direct and capable of going on the outside or cutting in on either foot.

Good final ball/shot too and could score out of nothing.

I think because of his height there’s a bit of a expectation he’s going to be good at holding the ball up and winning headers, for me that’s just not his game. He could develop into a 9 but that’s not him IMO.

In fairness he looks like he needs to lose a couple of pounds before we see the real version of him and he looks to have lost a yard of pace - don’t know if this is injury related. Maybe I’m being harsh saying that he needs to lose a couple of pounds but it’s what I see and comparing him on to previous seasons - surely after doing a pre season with Hull he’d be fit though?

He also doesn’t look match sharp.

I was one desperate for him to sign as I think he’s a really good player with loads of potential, we might just have to be a bit patient though until he finds his position/sharpness.

[Cod Boy]

We need to seriously get a free agent in nothing on the bench currently to come on

[Hibee Mac]

Scott 100% was not a 9 or a hold up player for Motherwell.

He was on either the left or right of a front 3 and would get the ball played to feet and run at the opposition. Very very direct and capable of going on the outside or cutting in on either foot.

Good final ball/shot too and could score out of nothing.

I think because of his height there’s a bit of a expectation he’s going to be good at holding the ball up and winning headers, for me that’s just not his game. He could develop into a 9 but that’s not him IMO.

In fairness he looks like he needs to lose a couple of pounds before we see the real version of him and he looks to have lost a yard of pace - don’t know if this is injury related. Maybe I’m being harsh saying that he needs to lose a couple of pounds but it’s what I see and comparing him on to previous seasons - surely after doing a pre season with Hull he’d be fit though?

He also doesn’t look match sharp.

I was one desperate for him to sign as I think he’s a really good player with loads of potential, we might just have to be a bit patient though until he finds his position/sharpness.That's exactly how I see Scott's game at Well and so far at Hibs too. Not a 9 and also confirms why we still could have done with a proper striker in after losing Doidge until Jan.

[Unseen work]

From the ever reliable and interesting Transfer market I’ve found the following free agents

Yaya Sanogo
Connor Wickham
Robson Kanu

I imagine none of the above are doable or would even interest us.

Some more interesting ones

Cedric Gondo
Isma Goncalves
Paul Gladon
Jerome Sinclair
Huseyin Dogan

I know Goncalves was at Hearts but fwiw I always rated him and think he would be a healthy option to have and already knows the league.

Ross worked with Sinclair at Sunderland so will know what he’s like. I think he’s struggled to find the net but pacey and puts himself about.

Dogan, Gladon and Gondo I know nothing about but they’re you’re interesting ones you’ve never heard of 😅 Gladon at least seems to have decent pedigree with being at wolves.

[Andy74]

Scott 100% was not a 9 or a hold up player for Motherwell.

He was on either the left or right of a front 3 and would get the ball played to feet and run at the opposition. Very very direct and capable of going on the outside or cutting in on either foot.

Good final ball/shot too and could score out of nothing.

I think because of his height there’s a bit of a expectation he’s going to be good at holding the ball up and winning headers, for me that’s just not his game. He could develop into a 9 but that’s not him IMO.

In fairness he looks like he needs to lose a couple of pounds before we see the real version of him and he looks to have lost a yard of pace - don’t know if this is injury related. Maybe I’m being harsh saying that he needs to lose a couple of pounds but it’s what I see and comparing him on to previous seasons - surely after doing a pre season with Hull he’d be fit though?

He also doesn’t look match sharp.

I was one desperate for him to sign as I think he’s a really good player with loads of potential, we might just have to be a bit patient though until he finds his position/sharpness.

His manager at the time certainly thought he should be a number 9.

“For me, he’s a number nine, and he can be Scotland’s number nine for a long time to come if he fulfils that physical potential. If he stays I’ll be absolutely delighted.”

[LaMotta]

Get O’Connor on the bench

He was in the away end today. Surprised how small he was.

[jacomo]

That's exactly how I see Scott's game at Well and so far at Hibs too. Not a 9 and also confirms why we still could have done with a proper striker in after losing Doidge until Jan.


It would be great if Scott does develop into a centre forward, and soon, because we need one.

[Smartie]

His manager at the time certainly thought he should be a number 9.

“For me, he’s a number nine, and he can be Scotland’s number nine for a long time to come if he fulfils that physical potential. If he stays I’ll be absolutely delighted.”

Fair enough, but in his handful of games for Hibs he has shown absolutely nothing, at any point, to suggest that he has what it takes to be a successful number 9 for us. Not even a brief glimpse or a flash.

I reckon we're in big trouble if we end up in a position where we need to play him there as anything other than a stop gap for 10 or 20 minutes at a time.

He looks to me like a winger who has lost his pace, is going to take a fair bit of time to get fit (possibly not unlike last season's Magennis) and is never a "number 9" in a month of Sundays.

Shame for the lad that he got injured and he's going to need to recuperate somewhere, but I really hope it doesn't come to our detriment.

He shouldn't be written off after 3 games, but I think the polite way to describe his start with us would be "quiet".

[Ronniekirk]

Fair enough, but in his handful of games for Hibs he has shown absolutely nothing, at any point, to suggest that he has what it takes to be a successful number 9 for us. Not even a brief glimpse or a flash.

I reckon we're in big trouble if we end up in a position where we need to play him there as anything other than a stop gap for 10 or 20 minutes at a time.

He looks to me like a winger who has lost his pace, is going to take a fair bit of time to get fit (possibly not unlike last season's Magennis) and is never a "number 9" in a month of Sundays.

Shame for the lad that he got injured and he's going to need to recuperate somewhere, but I really hope it doesn't come to our detriment.

He shouldn't be written off after 3 games, but I think the polite way to describe his start with us would be "quiet".

Thought he showed promise in the Dundee game ,but doesn’t seem to have built on that


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[1620]

Scott 100% was not a 9 or a hold up player for Motherwell.

He was on either the left or right of a front 3 and would get the ball played to feet and run at the opposition. Very very direct and capable of going on the outside or cutting in on either foot.

Good final ball/shot too and could score out of nothing.

I think because of his height there’s a bit of a expectation he’s going to be good at holding the ball up and winning headers, for me that’s just not his game. He could develop into a 9 but that’s not him IMO.

In fairness he looks like he needs to lose a couple of pounds before we see the real version of him and he looks to have lost a yard of pace - don’t know if this is injury related. Maybe I’m being harsh saying that he needs to lose a couple of pounds but it’s what I see and comparing him on to previous seasons - surely after doing a pre season with Hull he’d be fit though?

He also doesn’t look match sharp.

I was one desperate for him to sign as I think he’s a really good player with loads of potential, we might just have to be a bit patient though until he finds his position/sharpness.

Remember if he does come good Hull are likely to recall him in January.

[Since452]

Definitely not writing him off yet but he's on loan so needs to contribute and quickly. He's here to do a job for us short term.

[CapitalGreen]

Clause 18.2


"The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until the end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall be five years."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/regulations-on-the-status-and-transfer-of-players-june-2019.pdf%3Fcloudid%3Dao68trzk4bbaezlipx9u&ved=2ahUKEwjL4YW29vnyAhVOOhoKHQCaC8sQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3PFpLziGrH0guDSn4VeLKT

Why did you exclude the rest of the clause ignoring the most pertinent sentence?

“The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until the
end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall be five years. Contracts of any other length shall only be permitted if consistent with national laws. Players under the age of 18 may not sign a professional contract for a term longer than three years. Any clause referring to a longer period shall not be recognised.”

From the SFA rules on registration, clause 7.2.1

“In the case of a Player who has attained 18 years of age at the date of signing then such Agreement between Player and Club may be for a period of time of not less than 28 days and not more than 5 years.”

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/1842/scottish-fa-registration-procedures.pdf

[Peevemor]

Why did you exclude the rest of the clause ignoring the most pertinent sentence?

“The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until the
end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall be five years. Contracts of any other length shall only be permitted if consistent with national laws. Players under the age of 18 may not sign a professional contract for a term longer than three years. Any clause referring to a longer period shall not be recognised.”

From the SFA rules on registration, clause 7.2.1

“In the case of a Player who has attained 18 years of age at the date of signing then such Agreement between Player and Club may be for a period of time of not less than 28 days and not more than 5 years.”

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/1842/scottish-fa-registration-procedures.pdf

No reason. That's why I always put links to stuff like that - so people can read it properly for themselves. As I said, I was surprised myself but I didn't bother to check whether the SFA had it's own rule.

[B.H.F.C]

His manager at the time certainly thought he should be a number 9.

“For me, he’s a number nine, and he can be Scotland’s number nine for a long time to come if he fulfils that physical potential. If he stays I’ll be absolutely delighted.”

His only decent performance for us so far was as a number 9 (Dundee away when I thought he showed a bit of promise) as well.

He was a man short yesterday but don’t think that was really down to him, he just didn’t know how to play that position he was asked to play.

[Iggy Pope]

Remember if he does come good Hull are likely to recall him in January.

:greengrin Let’s hope he’s ***** so we can keep him?

[04Sauzee]

PNE Sign Connor Wickham on a short term deal so that can be a rubbed of somebody's list 😁

[inglisavhibs]

I think Nisbet looked a bit frustrated at times and we needed to freshen it up a bit up front
The last 15 minutes were the best part of the game for Nisbet.