Hibs v them

[PatHead]

Apologies if somebody's already asked, is the derby game on PPV?

Nope as its on sky

[ancient hibee]

This is what's bloody annoying about there not being any managers pre game interview these days. Everyone second guessing.

Perhaps Ross should send a team sheet to Neilson to give him time to prepare:greengrin

[Since452]

JDH and Magennis missed training today due to slight niggles, but the hope is they’ll be fit for Sunday… it’s touch and go.

Nothing to do with Covid.

Info from inside the hibs camp.

Yaaaas. Always wanted Hibs manager who played mind games before a derby. Another new contract please.

[number9dream]

yes, strange that. There hadn’t been an away win for years before that.

anyway, we’ve only lost two of our last nine there, and won the last two. We’re top of the league and for all their bluster we have absolutely no reason to fear tynecastle.

Have we ever won three in a row there?
Apologies if this has already been discussed...

[Since452]

Have we ever won three in a row there?
Apologies if this has already been discussed...

Yes. On Sunday.

[Ronniekirk]

JDH and Magennis missed training today due to slight niggles, but the hope is they’ll be fit for Sunday… it’s touch and go.

Nothing to do with Covid.

Info from inside the hibs camp.

If true we seem to be picking up a lot of injuries in training


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[007]

https://twitter.com/JamTarts/status/1436285864301187080?t=OgxfqUBdK1ncHbtPd6xN7w&s=19

Neilson manager of the month for August. Even though we're ahead on goal difference, he'll have just pipped JR to it based on the teams they've played so far. Not going to complain about that, let's hope he suffers from the manager of the month's curse on Sunday.

https://twitter.com/MartinBoyle9/status/1436308630194827270?t=vakZ9rN8bLiI-O-B8NOk0A&s=19

Boyler player of the month. Well done Boyler.

[Since452]

https://twitter.com/JamTarts/status/1436285864301187080?t=OgxfqUBdK1ncHbtPd6xN7w&s=19

Neilson manager of the month for August. Even though we're ahead on goal difference, he'll have just pipped JR to it based on the teams they've played so far. Not going to complain about that, let's hope he suffers from the manager of the month's curse on Sunday.

https://twitter.com/MartinBoyle9/status/1436308630194827270?t=vakZ9rN8bLiI-O-B8NOk0A&s=19

Boyler player of the month. Well done Boyler.

Well remember according to their chairman/director of football or whoever it was, we haven't played anyone yet.

[The Tubs]

I wouldn't be too worried about Newell, Gogic and Allan in midfield, especially as Allan links up well with Boyle. Gogic might even find some of his form from last season by playing next to Newell.

[BILLYHIBS]

Hanlon available Murphy out

STV News

[Heisenberg]

Hanlon available Murphy out

STV News

Murphy out for several weeks again is far from ideal. Wouldn’t be in any rush to keep him after this season.

[Stuart93]

Hanlon available Murphy out

STV News

Strange there was no mention of JDH or magennis, hopefully a good thing

[BILLYHIBS]

Strange there was no mention of JDH or magennis, hopefully a good thing
Tweets on Twitter saying Boyle fit

A poster posted earlier saying JDH and Magennis have minor knocks not Covid so fingers crossed

Gonna be tight

[GreenCastle]

Just looked up our semi final line up.

If we are missing JDH and Magennis then I would say we would start Sunday with a weaker line up and Hearts going into the game stronger.

If there was ever a game for Gogic to find his form again it would be Sunday if he starts.

[Mikey_1875]

Strange there was no mention of JDH or magennis, hopefully a good thing

On the hibs preview JR mentioned there were some additional concerns going into the weekend but they still have a couple of days left to recover. Sounds like they will be 50/50 assuming it was JDH and Magennis he was speaking about.

[CloudSquall]

I hope this is Jack Ross playing the Levein "De Vries 100% out" card.

[Stuart93]

Having a look on the latest EEN report about Sunday’s game and hearts’ strength in depth compared to ours only becomes more obvious when you see the potential benches.

[B.H.F.C]

So what we looking at team wise?

Macey

McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig

JDH (Gogic if JDH not available)
Newell

Boyle
Magennis (Allan if Magennis not available)
Scott

Nisbet

Still don’t think we’re going to be a million miles from our strongest 11, there’s just not going to be much to come off the bench attacking wise.

[Fergus52]

Having a look on the latest EEN report about Sunday’s game and hearts’ strength in depth compared to ours only becomes more obvious when you see the potential benches.

Think that's mainly down to our injuries.

With everyone fit I think our bench is stronger than theirs.

Based on what appears to be ross' preferred XI this season, when everyone is fit one of stevenson, cadden, gogic, hallberg, Allen, Mackay, doidge doesn't even get a place on the bench.

[Fergus52]

Think that's mainly down to our injuries.

With everyone fit I think our bench is stronger than theirs.

Based on what appears to be ross' preferred XI this season, when everyone is fit one of stevenson, cadden, gogic, hallberg, Allen, Mackay, doidge doesn't even get a place on the bench.

And that's not even considering daz, the new CB, Mackie or drey Wright.

[Fergus52]

And that's not even considering daz, the new CB, Mackie or drey Wright.

Or James Scott.

I make that 23 players that are a good standard for our league, all of whom are pretty much proven at this level apart from Mackay, wood and dabrowski.

Not sure hearts can say the same.

[SMAXXA]

Having a look on the latest EEN report about Sunday’s game and hearts’ strength in depth compared to ours only becomes more obvious when you see the potential benches.

You honestly think they have a stronger squad? Maybe ahead of Sunday aye but not when everyone available

[Viva_Palmeiras]

You honestly think they have a stronger squad? Maybe ahead of Sunday aye but not when everyone available

Hibstory tends to show that attitude and application can trump ability.

Hearts with backs to the wall have over the year unfortunately tended to upset the odds.

So I don’t really see what looking things on paper, individual battles or the 1001 pre-game analysis (so an never say “as we never talked about before the game…” - is all a bit of a waste of time :)

[Block]

You honestly think they have a stronger squad? Maybe ahead of Sunday aye but not when everyone available

They've not got a stronger squad when all being equal as per injuries etc.

In saying that it will be a tough game at their home ground and it will take a gold star performance to take all three points, of which we are very capable of but it could go either way imo.

[Greenbeard]

I see on BBC online Amy v Pundits Mr 4-6-0 is predicting a 2-0 win for Them.
I now feel more confident that we will win.

[Stuart93]

You honestly think they have a stronger squad? Maybe ahead of Sunday aye but not when everyone available

Depth wise I do aye. I don’t think it’s better quality wise.

[SMAXXA]

Depth wise I do aye. I don’t think it’s better quality wise.

Depth wise you could say this for likely the last 10/15 years as they have carried massive squads full of high earners who are bang average at best. It’s about quality and as you say we have better quality IMO

[Forza Fred]

Depth wise I do aye. I don’t think it’s better quality wise.

I think our depth may be fully tested on Sunday………

[LunasBoots]

Depth wise I do aye. I don’t think it’s better quality wise.

Hearts seem to sign a lot of players, I tend to think we sign players who will make a impact some way or another so we keep our squad size to a minimum, quality over quantity.

[Libby Hibby]

I think our depth may be fully tested on Sunday………

Sounds pretty ominous…if reports are true of our injuries, then I’m not confident.

A midfield 3 of Gogic, Newell and Allan gives me the fear.

Hopefully a few of the rumours are simply just that.

[theonlywayisup]

Sounds pretty ominous…if reports are true of our injuries, then I’m not confident.

A midfield 3 of Gogic, Newell and Allan gives me the fear.

Hopefully a few of the rumours are simply just that.

Ever since watching Derbies in the 80's, I've read the reports of key Hertz players being missing and the Hibs fans becoming really excited about their loss. Ignoring the ones who make a miracle recovery, the largely untested or aging deputies typically come onto the pitch and play a blinder. This goes back as far as a Derby in the 80's when both of their centre halfs were injured (think Levein was one), but the two who were thrusted into the Derby played a blinder.

So my point is that in Derbies it is not always about the individual, it's about the players attitude and how they apply themselves in the Derby. Whoever we have in midfield, if they don't fight their individual battles then Sunday will become a painful watch.

My other point is that over the last few seasons, we've struggled against certain teams who don't have players that are as good as ours. The two that come top of that list are St. Johnstone and Hertz. In both examples, they win the midfield - it's a stranglehold that prevents our 'better players' to perform. I said before the SC Final that Ross needs to devise a plan to counteract the Saint's strength in midfield. He didn't and we lost. He (and Hibs) need to do better on Sunday.

[hibee-boys]

I really don’t have a clue who’ll win tomorrow, I’d not be surprised either way. Couldn’t name you more than 4 maybe 5 hearts players, have paid no interest in their games, seen no highlights but looking at the league table they’ve clearly got off to a good start. Like most of recent derby games it’ll come down to who takes their limited chances, I’ve often felt off late that we’ve gone into these games looking the better side but simply not turned up on the day. We just can’t let that happen again. The performance at ER pre Covid and that semi final were inexcusable.

[Jones28]

Anyone know of any pubs in Lanark that will have the game on?

Trying to avoid places with names like the Masons Arms for obvious reasons 😅

[The Wireless]

Ever since watching Derbies in the 80's, I've read the reports of key Hertz players being missing and the Hibs fans becoming really excited about their loss. Ignoring the ones who make a miracle recovery, the largely untested or aging deputies typically come onto the pitch and play a blinder. This goes back as far as a Derby in the 80's when both of their centre halfs were injured (think Levein was one), but the two who were thrusted into the Derby played a blinder.

So my point is that in Derbies it is not always about the individual, it's about the players attitude and how they apply themselves in the Derby. Whoever we have in midfield, if they don't fight their individual battles then Sunday will become a painful watch.

My other point is that over the last few seasons, we've struggled against certain teams who don't have players that are as good as ours. The two that come top of that list are St. Johnstone and Hertz. In both examples, they win the midfield - it's a stranglehold that prevents our 'better players' to perform. I said before the SC Final that Ross needs to devise a plan to counteract the Saint's strength in midfield. He didn't and we lost. He (and Hibs) need to do better on Sunday.

Totally Agree with this post.

[Fergos]

Ever since watching Derbies in the 80's, I've read the reports of key Hertz players being missing and the Hibs fans becoming really excited about their loss. Ignoring the ones who make a miracle recovery, the largely untested or aging deputies typically come onto the pitch and play a blinder. This goes back as far as a Derby in the 80's when both of their centre halfs were injured (think Levein was one), but the two who were thrusted into the Derby played a blinder.

So my point is that in Derbies it is not always about the individual, it's about the players attitude and how they apply themselves in the Derby. Whoever we have in midfield, if they don't fight their individual battles then Sunday will become a painful watch.

My other point is that over the last few seasons, we've struggled against certain teams who don't have players that are as good as ours. The two that come top of that list are St. Johnstone and Hertz. In both examples, they win the midfield - it's a stranglehold that prevents our 'better players' to perform. I said before the SC Final that Ross needs to devise a plan to counteract the Saint's strength in midfield. He didn't and we lost. He (and Hibs) need to do better on Sunday.

Excellent post bud, agreed.

GGTTH

[SMAXXA]

Sounds pretty ominous…if reports are true of our injuries, then I’m not confident.

A midfield 3 of Gogic, Newell and Allan gives me the fear.

Hopefully a few of the rumours are simply just that.

You also have Cadden who can play CM if we are that toiling

[GreenCastle]

You also have Cadden who can play CM if we are that toiling

Not sure I would be relying on Cadden since he’s played one game against Stoke since April.m and not played 90 mins since Feb.

I think we will see..

Macey

McGinn Hanlon Porto Doig
Boyle Gogic Newell Scott
Allan
Nisbet

Our semi final line up against them was..

Marciano
Maginn Hanlon Porto Doig
Boyle Gogic Newell Magennis
Doidge Nisbet

[SMAXXA]

Not sure I would be relying on Cadden since he’s played one game against Stoke since April.

I think we will see..

Macey

McGinn Hanlon Porto Doig
Boyle Gogic Newell Scott
Allan
Nisbet

Our semi final line up against them was..

Marciano
Maginn Hanlon Porto Doig
Boyle Gogic Newell Magennis
Doidge Nisbet

No I totally agree I’m calling it out as another option in CM if we have those mentioned out.

I think you are right about the team if both of KM and JDH don’t make it, really picks itself to be fair

[GreenCastle]

No I totally agree I’m calling it out as another option in CM if we have those mentioned out.

I think you are right about the team if both of KM and JDH don’t make it, really picks itself to be fair

Porto didn’t play well at Hampden - there is a case for McGregor.

Midfield worries me - Though Allan is maybe the though ball specialist for Boyle.

Hearts will try shut down / nullify Boyle and Nisbet who are our main goal threats so hopefully others can step up.

[Ronniekirk]

Sounds pretty ominous…if reports are true of our injuries, then I’m not confident.

A midfield 3 of Gogic, Newell and Allan gives me the fear.

Hopefully a few of the rumours are simply just that.

Allan won’t last 90 minutes Newell just back from injury Gogic been poor so far
Really hope we do t need to play that combo


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[Nicho87]

Macey

McGinn Porto mcgregor doig

Boyle JDH Newell Scott

Magennis

Nisbet

[GreenCastle]

Allan won’t last 90 minutes Newell just back from injury Gogic been poor so far
Really hope we do t need to play that combo


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All good points. We don’t have many options though and our bench tomorrow will probably show that once again.

[Greenworld]

Macey

McGinn Porto mcgregor doig

Boyle JDH Newell Scott

Magennis

Nisbet


Macey

Porto mcgregor Hanlon

Mcginn jdh newell mageness doig

Boyle nisbet



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[Mikey_1875]

Macey

Porto mcgregor Hanlon

Mcginn jdh newell mageness doig

Boyle nisbet



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I wouldn’t be surprised to see us go back to 3-5-2 at all and it would hopefully make us more solid at the back for any crosses being swung into the box.

I’m hoping at least one of JdH or Magennis will make it with Gogic probably coming in for the one that doesn’t, if there is any game where he can redeem himself surely this is it. This line up would also give us options on the bench with Allan and Scott and the chance to switch formations during the game too.

[HH81]

Hearts fans pretty much have 3 points on the table already reading online.

They have the better players too according to the muppets.

Early goal to shut them up would be ideal.

[B.H.F.C]

Hearts fans pretty much have 3 points on the table already reading online.

They have the better players too according to the muppets.

Early goal to shut them up would be ideal.

There is never a derby where Hearts fans, or Hearts in general, don’t think they’re going to win so no real surprise.

[theonlywayisup]

Reading some of the team selections above, I assume that some haven't heard the rumours that Doyle-Hayes and Magennis may not make it, with the likelihood that JDH is most likely to miss.

If so, wonder if we'll go three at the back with two wingbacks.

Macey

Porto
McGregor
Hanlon

McGinn
Doig

Newell
Gogic
Allan

Nisbet
Boyle

1st objective is to win the midfield battle - I don't believe we can do that with three in the midfield, which is why I've gone for 3+2 pushing our fullbacks forward. That said, I don't know what the Hertz forward strength is, so leaving three at the back may leave us too open..

Subs: Dabrowski, Woods, Stevenson, Cadden (if ready), Mackay, Wright, Scott, Gullan

[GreenCastle]

Reading some of the team selections above, I assume that some haven't heard the rumours that Doyle-Hayes and Magennis may not make it, with the likelihood that JDH is most likely to miss.

If so, wonder if we'll go three at the back with two wingbacks.

Macey

Porto
McGregor
Hanlon

McGinn
Doig

Newell
Gogic
Allan

Nisbet
Boyle

1st objective is to win the midfield battle - I don't believe we can do that with three in the midfield, which is why I've gone for 3+2 pushing our fullbacks forward. That said, I don't know what the Hertz forward strength is, so leaving three at the back may leave us too open..

Subs: Dabrowski, Woods, Stevenson, Cadden (if ready), Mackay, Wright, Scott, Gullan


Hearts play 3-4-3 usually.

Gordon - Soutter - Beni and Boyce have been the spine / key players with players around the edges chipping in.

I’ve been impressed with the Everton player who is on 3 year deal.

The team above would definitely have a bit of dig with McGregor playing over Scott.

[Since452]

Mind games by Ross. JDH and Magennis will play I reckon. It's about time a manager of ours played them at their own game.

[Since90+2]

Mind games by Ross. JDH and Magennis will play I reckon. It's about time a manager of ours played them at their own game.

Jack Ross doesn't seem to be the type of character to get involved with mind games.

They might play, and if they do we will probably win the game, but it won't be anything to do with mind games if they do.

[Fergus52]

Depth wise I do aye. I don’t think it’s better quality wise.

I just don't see that at all, we have good spl standard back up on just about every position.

I'd rather have daz and the England under 20 captain than Cammy logan or Taylor Moore.

I'd rather have gogic Allan and hallberg than Cameron Devlin or meceneff.

Only area I'd say they have better depth than us is out wide - Walker, GMS, Mackay and ginelly are really good options.

[StevieHendo]

I just don't see that at all, we have good spl standard back up on just about every position.

I'd rather have daz and the England under 20 captain than Cammy logan or Taylor Moore.

I'd rather have gogic Allan and hallberg than Cameron Devlin or meceneff.

Only area I'd say they have better depth than us is out wide - Walker, GMS, Mackay and ginelly are really good options.


Hard to really say you'd rather have gogic or hallberg than devlin if you've very likely not seen him play. the boy McEneff looked okay first game for them but been guff since so hopefully he plays tomorrow although unlikely. i dont think starting XI wise there is a great deal between but they do have better strength in depth i think anyone being honest with themselves knows that. Although theyre depth in wide areas might be deeper, they dont have boyler <3

[Cod Boy]

The new centre half will start

[B.H.F.C]

The new centre half will start

Can’t see that. Hanlon fit and he’s not dropping Porteous or even McGinn if he decided to go with a three.

[Smartie]

The new centre half will start

Given how disrupted we’re likely to be in midfield and out wide, I’d be amazed if Ross started messing about with a defence that has served us well for such a big game.

[Hiber-nation]

Jambos I know are not all that confident. They don't trust Neilson.

[Allez Hibs]

Jambos I know are not all that confident. They don't trust Neilson.

So both sets of fans aren't confident as neither trusts their manager!

[Northernhibee]

So both sets of fans aren't confident as neither trusts their manager!

I fully trust Jack Ross.

[Andy74]

So both sets of fans aren't confident as neither trusts their manager!

That’s mainly you. Until we win a couple of games then you change your mind before laying into him again shortly after.

[kaimendhibs]

Everything is speculation. Whatever happens wont be decided on here

[Stuart93]

A massive massive test for JR tomorrow especially after our last two games against them.

[at last 61]

I trust jr but sometimes I feel that he does not use his subs quick enough, but as long as we beat those gits I will be happy :flag::flag:

[B.H.F.C]

A massive massive test for JR tomorrow especially after our last two games against them.

If we don’t get some kind of result then the whole ‘big game’ thing just starts all over again.

Good start to the season but tomorrow is the first big test, domestically.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I fully trust Jack Ross and whatever happens tomorrow won’t change that.

I do think there’s a section of Hibs fans that will not forgive another poor derby showing.

[Stuart93]

If we don’t get some kind of result then the whole ‘big game’ thing just starts all over again.

Good start to the season but tomorrow is the first big test, domestically.

Yep it’s this seasons first acid test tomorrow.

I fear Jack Ross doesn’t come back from another defeat to them for some fans.

[bingo70]

A massive massive test for JR tomorrow especially after our last two games against them.

Not sure it is.

I don’t think we’ll win tomorrow, I personally feel we are a stick on certainty to get beat.

That doesn’t really tell us anything though. Ross is slowly but surely building a decent side and progress is being made. I dont think this team or manager is built for the big occasions but over a longer period of time we will do just fine.

Needless to say I’ll be delighted to be proven wrong about tomorrow.

[bingo70]

Yep it’s this seasons first acid test tomorrow.

I fear Jack Ross doesn’t come back from another defeat to them for some fans.

Yeah but he won’t be sacked if we lose tomorrow and if we then go on and win 3 in a row we’ll still be in a decent position in the league.

[Stuart93]

Not sure it is.

I don’t think we’ll win tomorrow, I personally feel we are a stick on certainty to get beat.

That doesn’t really tell us anything though. Ross is slowly but surely building a decent side and progress is being made. I dont think this team or manager is built for the big occasions but over a longer period of time we will do just fine.

Needless to say I’ll be delighted to be proven wrong about tomorrow.

You don’t think it’s a massive test for JR and the team tomorrow? I disagree with that. Think it’s a massive game for both teams.

Unless it’s a draw, one teams good start to the season will feel pretty redundant at full time.

[Stuart93]

Yeah but he won’t be sacked if we lose tomorrow and if we then go on and win 3 in a row we’ll still be in a decent position in the league.

I know that, I wouldn’t be asking for him to be sacked either.

But think we both know defeat tomorrow will spell the end for JR with some of our support. Compounded by what some portray as a poor transfer window.

[B.H.F.C]

Not sure it is.

I don’t think we’ll win tomorrow, I personally feel we are a stick on certainty to get beat.

That doesn’t really tell us anything though. Ross is slowly but surely building a decent side and progress is being made. I dont think this team or manager is built for the big occasions but over a longer period of time we will do just fine.

Needless to say I’ll be delighted to be proven wrong about tomorrow.

If you can’t do well on the big occasions are you ever going to be any better than fine though?

I know there will be certain posters who will have me down as a ‘usual suspect’ or something along those lines for saying that, and as someone that apparently can’t wait to pile in if we lose the game. I’d love nothing more than to walk out of Tynecastle with a win tomorrow though.

They’ll be up for it but it’s the first proper high profile game we’ve had since the cup final. I don’t think we can dismiss the game as not telling us anything, we need to turn up for this.

[Selkirkhibs]

I know that, I wouldn’t be asking for him to be sacked either.

But think we both know defeat tomorrow will spell the end for JR with some of our support. Compounded by what some portray as a poor transfer window.

The real pressure is on Neilson as its their home game. If they fail to win it'll be carnage on kickback.

[Stuart93]

The real pressure is on Neilson as its their home game. If they fail to win it'll be carnage on kickback.

Oh aye heaps of pressure on Neilson tomorrow.

I feel there’s just as much on JR from our support as well though

[B.H.F.C]

The real pressure is on Neilson as its their home game. If they fail to win it'll be carnage on kickback.

I’m forever reading that we’re a better side than them (which I agree with btw). That being the case, there is just as much pressure on us IMO.

[Cod Boy]

Positive attitude they always have it why don’t we go in with confidence be positive

[Selkirkhibs]

Oh aye heaps of pressure on Neilson tomorrow.

I feel there’s just as much on JR from our support as well though

You're overthinking.

It's their home match. If they lose or don't win it'll be Robbie oot.

If we get a result of some kind at Tiny it'll be a bonus for us. We'll expect to win when they come to ER.

Far greater pressure on Robbie to win tomorrow.

[Allez Hibs]

You're overthinking.

It's their home match. If they lose or don't win it'll be Robbie oot.

If we get a result of some kind at Tiny it'll be a bonus for us. We'll expect to win when they come to ER.

Far greater pressure on Robbie to win tomorrow.

Remember they are going for three wins in a row against us tomorrow. It's important we get something out the game.

[Selkirkhibs]

Remember they are going for three wins in a row against us tomorrow. It's important we get something out the game.

Of course we want to get a result of some type. But its their home match and the expectation will be for Robbie's Hearts to win tomorrow. Nothing less will do for the gorgie hordes.

The expectation will be the same for JR when they visit ER.

[Stuart93]

You're overthinking.

It's their home match. If they lose or don't win it'll be Robbie oot.

If we get a result of some kind at Tiny it'll be a bonus for us. We'll expect to win when they come to ER.

Far greater pressure on Robbie to win tomorrow.

I’m not overthinking anything

I feel there’s as much pressure on JR from us than there is on Neilson from hearts fans. JR losing the last 2 contributes massively to that as well.

[B.H.F.C]

Of course we want to get a result of some type. But its their home match and the expectation will be for Robbie's Hearts to win tomorrow. Nothing less will do for the gorgie hordes.

The expectation will be the same for JR when they visit ER.

They have that expectation wherever they play us. Home, away or neutral ground. They always expect nothing less than a win against us, irrespective of how bad they are at that point in time.

[Selkirkhibs]

I’m not overthinking anything

I feel there’s as much pressure on JR from us than there is on Neilson from hearts fans. JR losing the last 2 contributes massively to that as well.

You keep saying that. As if you want to hammer into Jack Ross if we don't get a result at Tiny, their home ground.

If they don't win tomorrow they will be gunning for Robbie Neilson. There won't be the same vitriol fired at Jack Ross from real Hibernian supporters as it's a hard ground to win at. If we gain a draw I'd be delighted as its two points dropped by Hearts.

[Allez Hibs]

On the same token, we can make it three wins in a row at Tynecastle tomorrow - something we have never done?

Doesn't seem to be getting mentioned.

[Stuart93]

You keep saying that. As if you want to hammer into Jack Ross if we don't get a result at Tiny, their home ground.

If they don't win tomorrow they will be gunning for Robbie Neilson. There won't be the same vitriol fired at Jack Ross from real Hibernian supporters as it's a hard ground to win at. If we gain a draw I'd be delighted as its two points dropped by Hearts.

Na I’m saying that because I feel as if there’s real pressure on JR for the game tomorrow, not because I want to “hammer” him if we get beat. Ask any jambo who’s winning when they come and play us at Easter road and you can guarantee 9/10 of them say hearts.

Personally I don’t like the attitude of being delighted with a point against hearts especially before a balls kicked, it’s very defeatist, especially when they aren’t miles better than us/better than us at all. Certainly hope the players and JR go into the game with a better mind set than some our “real Hibernian supporters”

[Allez Hibs]

Na I’m saying that because I feel as if there’s real pressure on JR for the game tomorrow, not because I want to “hammer” him if we get beat. Ask any jambo who’s winning when they come and play us at Easter road and you can guarantee 9/10 of them say hearts.

Personally I don’t like the attitude of being delighted with a point against hearts especially before a balls kicked, it’s very defeatist, especially when they aren’t miles better than us/better than us at all.

Being happy with a point tomorrow is a fair and realistic outlook though until we are shown otherwise by JR winning big games consistently.

I'll take a point right now and move on to our next league match and the league cup quarter final.

[Selkirkhibs]

Na I’m saying that because I feel as if there’s real pressure on JR for the game tomorrow, not because I want to “hammer” him if we get beat. Ask any jambo who’s winning when they come and play us at Easter road and you can guarantee 9/10 of them say hearts.

Personally I don’t like the attitude of being delighted with a point against hearts especially before a balls kicked, it’s very defeatist, especially when they aren’t miles better than us/better than us at all. Certainly hope the players and JR go into the game with a better mind set than some our “real Hibernian supporters”

There's only one defeatist attitude between you and I Stuart.

You're desperate to ratchet up the pressure on JR if we get beaten tomorrow at their home ground.

Whereas the real pressure is on Robbie Neilson to win or it'll be Robbie oot on kickback.

Pull the other one Stuart, it's transparent.

Mon Hibs

:flag:

[Stuart93]

Being happy with a point tomorrow is a fair and realistic outlook though until we are shown otherwise by JR winning big games consistently.

I'll take a point right now and move on to our next league match and the league cup quarter final.

I’d probably not moan at getting a point tomorrow but delighted? Not for me.

[jeffers]

All about turning up tomorrow for me. Won’t be happy if we lose regardless but even more so if we put in a performance like the cup final, the LC semi or the last league game against them at ER.

[JammyDoidger]

Just do them! Whichever player pulls on the green and white jersey the morn should be able to give at a bare minimum 100% fight, desire and commitment. Body's on the line, do not come off that park losers! Come on the hibs! We own this city!!

[B.H.F.C]

All about turning up tomorrow for me. Won’t be happy if we lose regardless but even more so if we put in a performance like the cup final, the LC semi or the last league game against them at ER.

Agree. Perfectly possible we can lose the game but anything resembling those performances and all the same criticisms reappear. Really want us to get a result tomorrow.

[Selkirkhibs]

I’d probably not moan at getting a point tomorrow but delighted? Not for me.

If we win I'll be ecstatic. Draw I'll be extremely happy nay delighted because they will view a draw as a defeat at their home ground.

Lose, it will be decided on how we lost.

At this moment in time none of that has happened yet. You were sharpening your claws to lambast JR already whereas the real pressure is on Robbie Neilson to win for the gorgie gunts.

[jeffers]

Agree. Perfectly possible we can lose the game but anything resembling those performances and all the same criticisms reappear. Really want us to get a result tomorrow.

If we do put in performances like those games the criticisms will be justified imo. Go out tomorrow, compete from the off and look like we really want the win and if the worst happens it will be easier to accept.

[Peevemor]

Whatever the result tomorrow, it'll either be well merited, about right or unlucky. I'll wait until the final whistle before judging.

[Stuart93]

If we win I'll be ecstatic. Draw I'll be extremely happy nay delighted because they will view a draw as a defeat at their home ground.

Lose, it will be decided on how we lost.

At this moment in time none of that has happened yet. You were sharpening your claws to lambast JR already whereas the real pressure is on Robbie Neilson to win for the gorgie gunts.

So on the flip side of that argument then I can say you’re downplaying a defeat to protect JR?

I’m not sharpening my claws for anything.

I’d be happy with a point but I wouldn’t take it as far as delighted because I believe we have the better team quality wise. I agree with the above it would be more about how we lose as oppose to just losing. If we turn in another performance like we’ve seen in some of our “bigger” games then it’ll be a concern.

If we do come away with the win, I’m sure we will all be pals. Even if it’s only for a day.

[B.H.F.C]

If we win I'll be ecstatic. Draw I'll be extremely happy nay delighted because they will view a draw as a defeat at their home ground.

Lose, it will be decided on how we lost.

At this moment in time none of that has happened yet. You were sharpening your claws to lambast JR already whereas the real pressure is on Robbie Neilson to win for the gorgie gunts.

I think you’re kidding yourself with all this ‘real pressure on them’ stuff. You’re always very supportive of JR on here. Always talking about us being a decent team. Despite that, you don’t seem to have a great deal of confidence on them going in to this.

There is just as much pressure on us as there is them. It’s obviously going to be a difficult game. A win is brilliant. A draw is decent. The loser is in for some serious stick, even from those ‘real Hibernian’ supporters you mention if it happens to be us on that side of the result.

[Callum_62]

Alot might rest on who we have missing

Regardless get right into them

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[JammyDoidger]

Alot might rest on who we have missing

Regardless get right into them

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If we have the likes of Boyle, JDH and Magennis fit, nothing less then 3 points, with them missing, we scrap and at least take a point. Hate the idea of us going there and thinking we are better and trying to play them off the park, never happens, need to win the battle at tynie, it's not a place for pretty football! scrap scrap and scrap some more for every ball!

[Steve20]

The last two derbies we’ve lost when they’ve either been a Championship team or on the close to going down. Those games were unacceptable to lose.

This game, yes they’re the favourites at their own stadium. However, because of those last two derbies, the League Cup semi final, Scottish Cup Final and failing to even beat either Old Firm side yet, if we don’t win then it will bring up the question of why our team can’t win these big occasion games.

This group of players gets hugely praised on here, it’s time to deliver a big game win

[SMAXXA]

I think you’re kidding yourself with all this ‘real pressure on them’ stuff. You’re always very supportive of JR on here. Always talking about us being a decent team. Despite that, you don’t seem to have a great deal of confidence on them going in to this.

There is just as much pressure on us as there is them. It’s obviously going to be a difficult game. A win is brilliant. A draw is decent. The loser is in for some serious stick, even from those ‘real Hibernian’ supporters you mention if it happens to be us on that side of the result.

Why the **** is Jack Ross even being mentioned here about pressure and criticism, I’d we lose the game so be it is 1 GAME. It’s easy to call out a few games where we didn’t turn up, and for the record the semi final against hearts wasn’t one we were the better side over the piece and should have won the game. A missed penalty cost us not that we didn’t turn up.

I can see it now this place will be on meltdown criticising them manager when in reality this is the manager who’s undefeated so far and a brain fart from Gogic aside should be sitting here work maximum points. If we lose we lose onto the next one.

**if the semi above is St J game fair enough rant over 😂

[niddriehibs32]

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[HH81]

Morning everyone.

Big day, let's hope for the right result come 2pm.

Mon Hibs.

[Stuart93]

Why the **** is Jack Ross even being mentioned here about pressure and criticism, I’d we lose the game so be it is 1 GAME. It’s easy to call out a few games where we didn’t turn up, and for the record the semi final against hearts wasn’t one we were the better side over the piece and should have won the game. A missed penalty cost us not that we didn’t turn up.

I can see it now this place will be on meltdown criticising them manager when in reality this is the manager who’s undefeated so far and a brain fart from Gogic aside should be sitting here work maximum points. If we lose we lose onto the next one.

**if the semi above is St J game fair enough rant over 😂

It is only one game but it would be his 3rd derby defeat in a row.

Rightly or wrongly some managers would struggle to come back from that with large sections of our support

That’s the main reason I think he’s under pressure today, to avoid defeat first and foremost.

[B.H.F.C]

Why the **** is Jack Ross even being mentioned here about pressure and criticism, I’d we lose the game so be it is 1 GAME. It’s easy to call out a few games where we didn’t turn up, and for the record the semi final against hearts wasn’t one we were the better side over the piece and should have won the game. A missed penalty cost us not that we didn’t turn up.

I can see it now this place will be on meltdown criticising them manager when in reality this is the manager who’s undefeated so far and a brain fart from Gogic aside should be sitting here work maximum points. If we lose we lose onto the next one.

**if the semi above is St J game fair enough rant over 😂

I think you know the answer to your own question, even if you don’t happen to agree with it. Hope we’re all happy in about six hours or so.

[Libby Hibby]

Come on Hibs, it’s going to be tough

F@c£ the Hertz

[SMAXXA]

It is only one game but it would be his 3rd derby defeat in a row.

Rightly or wrongly some managers would struggle to come back from that with large sections of our support

That’s the main reason I think he’s under pressure today, to avoid defeat first and foremost.

He’s not under any pressure and to suggest he is if we lose today for me is just mental. It’s another game in our season I will prefer to see the bigger picture and let them worry about only beating Hibs. I’d happily lose the derby if it meant we went on to have a season like last season (cup outcomes aside)

[Leithenhibby]

Game in Milos,🤔

I'll be able to login to Hibs TV, or would it be Hearts tv🤔???. Can't think as the nerves kick in.😀

Mon the Hibees 💚💚

[easty]

Why the **** is Jack Ross even being mentioned here about pressure and criticism, I’d we lose the game so be it is 1 GAME. It’s easy to call out a few games where we didn’t turn up, and for the record the semi final against hearts wasn’t one we were the better side over the piece and should have won the game. A missed penalty cost us not that we didn’t turn up.

I can see it now this place will be on meltdown criticising them manager when in reality this is the manager who’s undefeated so far and a brain fart from Gogic aside should be sitting here work maximum points. If we lose we lose onto the next one.

**if the semi above is St J game fair enough rant over 😂

I’ll definitely be avoiding .net today if we do lose. Can’t be arsed reading 500 comments about “failing in the big games”.

Jack Ross is under no pressure as far as I’m concerned. Today’s going to be a tough game, win, lose or draw, I back him to take us through the season and finish above them.

[Broken Gnome]

What a random pre-match video Hibs just posted.

Aggro, recent Tynecastle goals, drone shots of stadiums, dramatic music, Olly Lee scoring ay Easter Road, Jake Mulraney half-chance...

[scoopyboy]

I’ll definitely be avoiding .net today if we do lose. Can’t be arsed reading 500 comments about “failing in the big games”.

Jack Ross is under no pressure as far as I’m concerned. Today’s going to be a tough game, win, lose or draw, I back him to take us through the season and finish above them.

If we win today it will just delay the can't handle big game issue until the next big game.

The usual suspects will never give up on this I'm afraid.

A win will be ideal in more ways than one, here's hoping.:aok:

[Hermit Crab]

What a random pre-match video Hibs just posted.

Aggro, recent Tynecastle goals, drone shots of stadiums, dramatic music, Olly Lee scoring ay Easter Road, Jake Mulraney half-chance...


Its a bit strange eh.

[Libby Hibby]

What a weird watch.

What was the message that they were trying to put across?

Very random.

[Heisenberg]

What a random pre-match video Hibs just posted.

Aggro, recent Tynecastle goals, drone shots of stadiums, dramatic music, Olly Lee scoring ay Easter Road, Jake Mulraney half-chance...

Absolutely no idea why they’ve included a Hearts goal 😂

[LunasBoots]

What a random pre-match video Hibs just posted.

Aggro, recent Tynecastle goals, drone shots of stadiums, dramatic music, Olly Lee scoring ay Easter Road, Jake Mulraney half-chance...

Very weird. Put together without much thought.

[Hibs90]

What a weird watch.

What was the message that they were trying to put across?

Very random.

Agreed

[SHODAN]

Ah, the new social media guy'll get it eventually.

[Ronniekirk]

What a weird watch.

What was the message that they were trying to put across?

Very random.

Maybe it was anything can happen in a Derby Game and don’t expect a classic


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[Squealing pig]

Just win hibs

[hibsdaft]

Think the video was trying to promote the derby as an attractive fixture to neutrals. Wasn't meant for us I suspect. Quite an interesting idea, to build profile and interest for the game, but not sure it should be coming directly from us.

[Smartie]

Think the video was trying to promote the derby as an attractive fixture to neutrals. Wasn't meant for us I suspect. Quite an interesting idea, to build profile and interest for the game, but not sure it should be coming directly from us.

I think it could have been an interesting idea, but it didn’t really communicate what it was trying to do.

They’re all parts of the derby (peachy strikes going in against you, opposition strikers blazing chances over the bar) and you have to take a bit of rough with smooth. They didn’t make it obvious what story they were trying to tell though.

A bit odd but far from the worst stuff they’ve come away with. Most of their most recent stuff has actually been very good indeed.

[mcohibs]

Think the video was trying to promote the derby as an attractive fixture to neutrals. Wasn't meant for us I suspect. Quite an interesting idea, to build profile and interest for the game, but not sure it should be coming directly from us.

It was like a neutral promo video you'd expect to see from a TV broadcaster, with a couple of extra Hibs goals. Strange

[easty]

It was like a neutral promo video you'd expect to see from a TV broadcaster, with a couple of extra Hibs goals. Strange

Aye, it was more neutral than they should be on derby day. Give us what we want…Hibs scoring goals and going through hearts players. It’s not difficult. It’s pretty obvious.

[Broken Gnome]

I think it could have been an interesting idea, but it didn’t really communicate what it was trying to do.

They’re all parts of the derby (peachy strikes going in against you, opposition strikers blazing chances over the bar) and you have to take a bit of rough with smooth. They didn’t make it obvious what story they were trying to tell though.

A bit odd but far from the worst stuff they’ve come away with. Most of their most recent stuff has actually been very good indeed.

All true. Don't even mind the Hearts goal in there too much if trying to make it about the match itself rather than just Hibs. Just can't imagine they looked back over it once it was done and thought of that cobbled together collection 'yep, that's nailed the brief'.

Anyway, minor point. Mon the Hibs.

[007]

Would rather they'd used the time to edit JR's pre-match press conference and release that (would probably have taken a fraction of the time). All we've been given is 1min 45secs of it in the Hibee Buzz.

[Greenbeard]

Whatever the result tomorrow, it'll either be well merited, about right or unlucky. I'll wait until the final whistle before judging.
Whatever the result, Hearts will be the better side according to the BBC online Jambos.
They win 1-0 and they'll have thrashed us.
0-0 draw and it will be a travesty for Them.
We win 4-0 and we'll have sneaked a lucky win.

[A Hi-Bee]

**** the hertz
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin :greengrin:greengrin

[FilipinoHibs]

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1436989264026275842?s=19

[FilipinoHibs]

No doyle

[Sammy7nil]

Big price drift suggest a weak Hibs team :confused:

[Callum_62]

Still a very attacking team

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[hfc-1875]

Very attacking looking team, just hope we don’t get bullied in the middle of the park. I’d imagine it will be baningime and haring in there for them. Hopefully we just play our game and don’t get dragged into a scrappy battle cause that will suit them more than us. Come on the hibees

[Brightside]

Good team. We win.

[Callum_62]

Still a very attacking team

Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkIt's not a weak 1st 11

But still missing a few and a few back from injury

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[Silversand]

Good to see Cadden back in. Presumably in a midfield role?

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[mcohibs]

Sky showing the 6-2 game right now is pleasing :greengrin

[Smartie]

That's a MUCH stronger and MUCH more attacking team than I was expecting.

[Bridge hibs]

No doyleHad to read that twice, my head read no Boyle !! 😵

[Magpie]

Gordon
Smith
Halkett
Souttar
Kingsley
Woodburn
Haring
Baningime
Cochrane
Mackay-Stevens
Boyce

[Since452]

No doyle

??

[Allant1981]

??

Hayes

[Since452]

Hayes

Panicked there

[Callum_62]

Stronger team that I hoped, slight worry if folk playing with injuries and Cadden not being match fit

Huge game to return to

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[Squealing pig]

What’s the hibs team plz

[Smartie]

Ross clearly likes Cadden.

Has found a way to get him in the team a few times and now bringing him back in quickly when other option were available.

Not being critical, I’ve been impressed with Cadden myself.

[Since90+2]

It's a big ask for Cadden to play wingback in a derby in his first game since April.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Looks like we’ll be wearing white today, which annoys me probably more than it should

[CMurdoch]

No Doyle-Hayes but
Hanlon, Cadden and Newell back and
Boyle fit
I'm relieved and happy :greengrin

There was a rumour doing the rounds during the week that DH and Magennis were shielding.
It may turn out that DH is but to have lost Magennis as well would have been bad.
Given Stevenson is not in the squad either would suggest he was the 2nd player shield so probably something in it.

[Since90+2]

Looks like we’ll be wearing white today, which annoys me probably more than it should

Where are you seeing that?

[Allant1981]

Where are you seeing that?

Club twitter page

[Callum_62]

No Doyle-Hayes but
Hanlon, Cadden back and
Boyle fit
I'm relieved and happy :greengrin

There was a rumour doing the rounds during the week that DH and Magennis were shielding.
It may turn out that DH is but to have lost Magennis as well would have been bad.And newelI imagine Newell and magennis will sit? Or maybe Cadden sit?

Or Boyle Boyle up top with Scott wide left and Cadden wing back?

No idea but glad to see some of of better players back in there regardless

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[Since452]

Cadden is superb

[Since90+2]

Cadden is superb

I'm not sure I'd stretch to superb but he's definitely a good player. Big ask for him today though.

[CMurdoch]

What’s the hibs team plz

The usual team but Cadden in for Doyle-Hayes who is not in the match day squad

[Spike Mandela]

No access to twitter. Can some kind soul show the team.:thumbsup:

[Andy74]

It's a big ask for Cadden to play wingback in a derby in his first game since April.

Or he could be playing in midfield.

[Silversand]

Here https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/c32dcf22990c648eb379e005fd86d896.jpg

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[number9dream]

No access to twitter. Can some kind soul show the team.:thumbsup:



Macey
McGinn Porteous Hanlon
Cadden Magennis Newell Doig
Boyle Nisbet Scott

[Spike Mandela]

Here https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210912/c32dcf22990c648eb379e005fd86d896.jpg

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Cheers:aok:

[degenerated]

Whatever the result, Hearts will be the better side according to the BBC online Jambos.
They win 1-0 and they'll have thrashed us.
0-0 draw and it will be a travesty for Them.
We win 4-0 and we'll have sneaked a lucky win.To be honest, that could be here too.

[SHODAN]

Looks like we’ll be wearing white today, which annoys me probably more than it should

Agreed, that's really weird. Kit clash?

[WhileTheChief..]

I’ll definitely be avoiding .net today if we do lose. Can’t be arsed reading 500 comments about “failing in the big games”.

Jack Ross is under no pressure as far as I’m concerned. Today’s going to be a tough game, win, lose or draw, I back him to take us through the season and finish above them.

Kinda feel similar, finishing above them in the league over the season is more important to me that the individual derby game results.

Hard game that could go either way. If we play like we did against Ross Co we'll be fine, play like we did in the cup final and we won't be.

That's the frustrating thing for me. I know we can win if we really go for it but I'm not confident that we'll be totally up for it today.

[hibee_girl]

Hibernian Football Club
@HibernianFC
·
4m
A late change on our bench. Jamie Gullan replaces Dan MacKay.

[Since90+2]

Are Sky aware there's two teams today? Been the Hearts show so far.

[Callum_62]

Hibernian Football Club
@HibernianFC
·
4m
A late change on our bench. Jamie Gullan replaces Dan MacKay.That's a shame. McKay is a good late sub with his pace

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[3pm]

Neil McCann needs to invest in a mirror.

[easty]

I’ve just picked up a ticket…so someone in the queue has dropped it. Block k row 7. Next to old high school

Can leave it somewhere if someone wants it. Sickener for whoever’s dropped it

I’ve left it with the G4S steward. Indian guy on the far left hand side as you go in.

[jingler1954]

As I said previously JDH will be missing but the good news he will only be out for 10 days. GGTTH

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Straw clutching do we see a wee 15m cameo for Allan?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

How Hilarious the Hearts support tactic of 2 balls on the pitch. Bunch of tossers.

[flash]

As I said previously JDH will be missing but the good news he will only be out for 10 days. GGTTH

You were spot on. Does that mean back for next week?

[jingler1954]

Yes 10 days quarantine from last Tuesday.

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