Safe standing to be allowed in England

[Moulin Yarns]

In England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58357046

[NAE NOOKIE]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.

[CMurdoch]

In England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58357046

Covid will leave that on the launch pad for a while yet

[ABZHFC]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.

Totally agree, let's hope it's something the board does start to seriously look into some day soon

[SChibs]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.

Spot on. Look at all the famous grounds around the country with sections behind the goals, Stretford end, holte end, holmsdale fanatics, the kop, etc

[LaMotta]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.

This times 1000 :agree::agree::agree:

[PatHead]

This times 1000 :agree::agree::agree:

I'm not wanting to share my euromillions win with anyone, far less another 999 people!

[Lancs Harp]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.


In the event of you winning the Euro millions I'd just like to say I've always found your posts the most interesting on .net delivered with panache and humour.

If you could see fit to slip me a few quid I'd be most grateful. Thank you.

[bod]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.


I think the lower part of all 4 sides could have the safe standing seats.
I’d be willing to pay for mine myself

[NAE NOOKIE]

In the event of you winning the Euro millions I'd just like to say I've always found your posts the most interesting on .net delivered with panache and humour.

If you could see fit to slip me a few quid I'd be most grateful. Thank you.

Yer in luck mate, with me flattery gets folk everywhere :greengrin

[Juniper Greens]

I'd build a NE corner that would be safe standing

[jacomo]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.


The benefits probably aren’t as obvious to the people paying the bills. Creating a safe standing area in the FF lower would be expensive and wouldn’t increase revenue.

However, I believe the impact on the atmosphere would be hugely positive and it would improve the match day experience for all, so beneficial in the long run.

I’m all in favour.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Cool new everton stadium will now be 60K

[Renfrew_Hibby]

The only place in the stadium suitable for safe standing is the FF lower, a dead horse discussion that's been flogged so much there's no flesh left on it.

What I don't get is that we now have an owner who must be tuned into MLS a league where a safe standing area behind the goals is a feature of practically every stadium. It's demand number one on the list when the fans are consulted on new stadium construction and the fans are invariably listened to. However, to date he seems as blind to the obvious benefits as Tom Farmer, Rod Petrie or Leeann Dempster were determined to be.

Sadly over the last few years its become evident that until I win the Euromillions and take over the club the FF lower will continue to be a sparsely populated dead zone as it was yesterday and always is unless we are playing Hearts or the Rangers instead of being used for the purpose for which it is uniquely suited and which could ramp up the atmosphere in the stadium far more than any number of revamped food kiosks or jumbotrons.

Ah well .... the next Euromillions draw is on Tuesday.
I think turning the FF lower into safe standing could revolutionise the stadium/support

[NAE NOOKIE]

The benefits probably aren’t as obvious to the people paying the bills. Creating a safe standing area in the FF lower would be expensive and wouldn’t increase revenue.

However, I believe the impact on the atmosphere would be hugely positive and it would improve the match day experience for all, so beneficial in the long run.

I’m all in favour.

I do get that mate, but what I would say to them is in a business like football there are quite a few things that can indirectly benefit a club where the benefits of spending money on them aren't immediately obvious. We return to the mantra Hibs were preaching just after Leeann Dempster came in, that being if you concentrated on all the small things and not just the obvious big things the rewards will be there for all to see in the long run.

If there's one thing the pandemic has proved its just how much home crowds mean to a club and how much fans positively influence how home teams perform. Look at us, we had our best away record in years and a bang average home record and that goes for a lot of clubs last season. Sheffield United are a case in point in this theory, I'm convinced they could possibly have survived with a noisy home crowd roaring them on like they had in their first season, without that crowd they clearly couldn't replicate the blood and thunder approach that gave them such a good first season with a bunch of pretty average players.

IMO if the atmosphere could be ramped up by 20% or so at an average ER league or cup game it would help the team perform better, leading to better home results, better finishes in the league and cups and lead to more folk going to games ... I remain convinced a safe standing FF lower could achieve that 20% increase in atmosphere and the club as a whole would benefit from it in the long term.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I'd build a NE corner that would be safe standing

You wouldn't see the pitch for the new big screen

[hibbyfraelibby]

Safe standing still means you have a seat. Hibs put some of the safe standing seats in the disabled areas a few seasons ago so in some respects we are ahead of the curve.

[Lancs Harp]

Safe standing still means you have a seat. Hibs put some of the safe standing seats in the disabled areas a few seasons ago so in some respects we are ahead of the curve.

I think safe standing style seating for support/carers in the disabled areas is fairly standard and common place, not sure we led the way on his one. Certainly the case in England.

[Lago]

I do get that mate, but what I would say to them is in a business like football there are quite a few things that can indirectly benefit a club where the benefits of spending money on them aren't immediately obvious. We return to the mantra Hibs were preaching just after Leeann Dempster came in, that being if you concentrated on all the small things and not just the obvious big things the rewards will be there for all to see in the long run.

If there's one thing the pandemic has proved its just how much home crowds mean to a club and how much fans positively influence how home teams perform. Look at us, we had our best away record in years and a bang average home record and that goes for a lot of clubs last season. Sheffield United are a case in point in this theory, I'm convinced they could possibly have survived with a noisy home crowd roaring them on like they had in their first season, without that crowd they clearly couldn't replicate the blood and thunder approach that gave them such a good first season with a bunch of pretty average players.

IMO if the atmosphere could be ramped up by 20% or so at an average ER league or cup game it would help the team perform better, leading to better home results, better finishes in the league and cups and lead to more folk going to games ... I remain convinced a safe standing FF lower could achieve that 20% increase in atmosphere and the club as a whole would benefit from it in the long term.
Your absolutely right in every aspect, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen in the short to medium term, quite apart from convincing Ron & Co you have to convince Scottish politicians, not an easy thing to do as they are risk adverse & have a tin ear where football is concerned, but excellent post.

[Stairway 2 7]

Your absolutely right in every aspect, but unfortunately I don't think it will happen in the short to medium term, quite apart from convincing Ron & Co you have to convince Scottish politicians, not an easy thing to do as they are risk adverse & have a tin ear where football is concerned, but excellent post.

Do celtic not already have standing in the ground

[jacomo]

I do get that mate, but what I would say to them is in a business like football there are quite a few things that can indirectly benefit a club where the benefits of spending money on them aren't immediately obvious. We return to the mantra Hibs were preaching just after Leeann Dempster came in, that being if you concentrated on all the small things and not just the obvious big things the rewards will be there for all to see in the long run.

If there's one thing the pandemic has proved its just how much home crowds mean to a club and how much fans positively influence how home teams perform. Look at us, we had our best away record in years and a bang average home record and that goes for a lot of clubs last season. Sheffield United are a case in point in this theory, I'm convinced they could possibly have survived with a noisy home crowd roaring them on like they had in their first season, without that crowd they clearly couldn't replicate the blood and thunder approach that gave them such a good first season with a bunch of pretty average players.

IMO if the atmosphere could be ramped up by 20% or so at an average ER league or cup game it would help the team perform better, leading to better home results, better finishes in the league and cups and lead to more folk going to games ... I remain convinced a safe standing FF lower could achieve that 20% increase in atmosphere and the club as a whole would benefit from it in the long term.


Er yes… like I said, I think there are real benefits to a safe standing area.

I can understand the reluctance of the club to invest significant sums though.

[Peevemor]

Do celtic not already have standing in the groundYes.

Safe standing consists of seats with barriers fixed to the back. You're still stuck with the same people around you throughout the match whether it suits you or not.

[SHODAN]

I'd make the FF lower safe standing and move the family section somewhere else, but that's for another thread. :duck: