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LaMotta
28-08-2021, 07:21 PM
The ref blew immediately after Porto took his free kick in the second half just outside their box. He blasted in to the wall anyway, but the ref awarded Livvy an indirect free kick.

Anyone know why? I'm assuming its because a couple of Hibs players were close to the wall ( which was outlawed in 2020)......

Sir David Gray
28-08-2021, 07:22 PM
I assumed that was the reason but I don't actually know.

Booked4Being-Ugly
28-08-2021, 07:23 PM
The ref blew immediately after Porto took his free kick in the second half just outside their box. He blasted in to the wall anyway, but the ref awarded Livvy an indirect free kick.

Anyone know why? I'm assuming its because a couple of Hibs players were close to the wall ( which was outlawed in 2020)......

I thought it was Nisbet that was offside but could be wrong.

Irish_Steve
28-08-2021, 07:25 PM
I thought it was Nisbet that was offside but could be wrong.

Yeah, the ref gestured that it was offside

Smartie
28-08-2021, 07:25 PM
I'm positive it was for offside.

tamig
28-08-2021, 07:26 PM
It’s in the rules -

Offences and sanctions
If, when a free kick is taken, an attacking team player is less than 1 m (1 yd) from a 'wall' formed by three or more defending team players, an indirect free kick is awarded.

madhatter
28-08-2021, 07:26 PM
Scott Allan was too close to their wall I think.

Not sure if that rule still applies.

LaMotta
28-08-2021, 07:28 PM
Yeah, the ref gestured that it was offside


I'm positive it was for offside.

The flag never went up, and no one was behind the wall, so really don't think it could have been for offside.


It’s in the rules -

Offences and sanctions
If, when a free kick is taken, an attacking team player is less than 1 m (1 yd) from a 'wall' formed by three or more defending team players, an indirect free kick is awarded.

ta - looks like it was this then. There was def a couple of Hibs players close to the wall.

Irish_Steve
28-08-2021, 07:28 PM
It’s in the rules -

Offences and sanctions
If, when a free kick is taken, an attacking team player is less than 1 m (1 yd) from a 'wall' formed by three or more defending team players, an indirect free kick is awarded.

Well, unless the hand signal for that offence is the same as offside, then he gave it for the reason above but I don't think it is. The ref clearly pointed to KN, and then made the offside signal

greenlex
28-08-2021, 07:29 PM
It’s in the rules -

Offences and sanctions
If, when a free kick is taken, an attacking team player is less than 1 m (1 yd) from a 'wall' formed by three or more defending team players, an indirect free kick is awarded.
Is it a covid thing?:greengrin

tamig
28-08-2021, 07:30 PM
Well, unless the hand signal for that offence is the same as offside, then he gave it for the reason above but I don't think it is. The ref clearly pointed to KN, and then made the offside signal

It was an indirect free kick signal. There was no offside here.

wookie70
28-08-2021, 07:30 PM
I thought it was players being too close to the Livi Wall. He did speak to those players before the kick was taken. From what I could see there was a clear break in the wall and the Hibs players were not in an illegal position, or are you allowed two walls. To be fair it was way down the list of that referees appalling decisions.

LaMotta
28-08-2021, 07:32 PM
It was an indirect free kick signal. There was no offside here.

Just been sent this pic - def not offside:

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Liam978
28-08-2021, 07:33 PM
Scott Allan was too close to their wall I think.

Not sure if that rule still applies.

the Ref defo signalled for an indirect free kick, arm raised aloft. Not towards the East stand linesman for offside.

LaMotta
28-08-2021, 07:34 PM
I thought it was players being too close to the Livi Wall. He did speak to those players before the kick was taken. From what I could see there was a clear break in the wall and the Hibs players were not in an illegal position, or are you allowed two walls. To be fair it was way down the list of that referees appalling decisions.

He was absolutely brutal :agree:

Booked4Being-Ugly
28-08-2021, 07:35 PM
TBH I was more bemused at Porto being our free kick specialist. 😬

O'Rourke3
28-08-2021, 07:51 PM
TBH I was more bemused at Porto being our free kick specialist. [emoji51]Shouldnt have been near it.He was only ever going to blooter it.Noone in that Livvy wall was ever going to duck. No space to get it up and over.

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RyeSloan
28-08-2021, 07:51 PM
TBH I was more bemused at Porto being our free kick specialist. [emoji51]

You were not the only one!

I get he wanted to drill it hard n low but so did the wall…it was so obvious it was unreal [emoji1787]

WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 07:52 PM
^^ Yup, everyone around me was bemused by that one too!!

Don't see him taking free kicks in that kinda area again anytime soon!

Peevemor
28-08-2021, 08:00 PM
^^ Yup, everyone around me was bemused by that one too!!

Don't see him taking free kicks in that kinda area again anytime soon!It must be something they've worked on in training. Porto has a fair welly so maybe he'll surprise us.

Mikey_1875
28-08-2021, 08:04 PM
I guessed too close to the wall but was a bit confused as well. Ref was full of bizarre decisions today, no booking for that free kick. Then first half the Mcgregor/Anderson followed by Sibbald/Porteous. Took ages to make decisions in general, very poor for both teams.

Eyrie
28-08-2021, 08:20 PM
Couldn't believe he didn't give a free kick when Sibbald barged into Porteous after the ball had gone.

O'Rourke3
28-08-2021, 08:36 PM
Couldn't believe he didn't give a free kick when Sibbald barged into Porteous after the ball had gone.He didn't see it but one of the assistants should have.

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wookie70
28-08-2021, 08:39 PM
Couldn't believe he didn't give a free kick when Sibbald barged into Porteous after the ball had gone.

That was assault and should have been more than a free kick. The ref didn't see it but no idea what the linesman was doing to miss it

AFKA5814_Hibs
28-08-2021, 08:40 PM
TBH I was more bemused at Porto being our free kick specialist. 😬

Yep, with the likes of Nisbet, Magennis, Allan etc why Porteous? A strange decision given it was in such a good position.

Iggy Pope
28-08-2021, 08:49 PM
Whatever the decision, Porto taking that free kick should’ve resulted in a yellow for time wasting

Crunchie
28-08-2021, 08:56 PM
He was absolutely brutal :agree:
My favourite referee of all time and gave us the decisions when it mattered on that monumental day. He's not given us much since mind you including today.

Brightside
28-08-2021, 08:59 PM
Whatever the decision, Porto taking that free kick should’ve resulted in a yellow for time wasting

😂 correct.

davym7062
28-08-2021, 09:38 PM
TBH I was more bemused at Porto being our free kick specialist. 😬

this

LaMotta
28-08-2021, 09:48 PM
My favourite referee of all time and gave us the decisions when it mattered on that monumental day. He's not given us much since mind you including today.

I may not agree with you on Brexit, but I agree with you on all that:greengrin

HibeeMackenzie
29-08-2021, 12:24 AM
The referee called it correct as attacking players can’t be without 1 yard/metre(unsure which) of the wall, but the fact he allowed them to stand there and let the free kick be taken is shambolic, he surely has to tell them to step away

Onion
29-08-2021, 05:26 AM
The ref blew immediately after Porto took his free kick in the second half just outside their box. He blasted in to the wall anyway, but the ref awarded Livvy an indirect free kick.

Anyone know why? I'm assuming its because a couple of Hibs players were close to the wall ( which was outlawed in 2020)......

That was our reward for Boyle being hacked down in full flow 1yd outside the box, with the offending Livi player walking away card free.

You do sense that refs cut poorer sides a lot more slack when they're hacking down Hibs players, jumping all over them or pulling Hibs' jerseys. We saw all of that in action today.

Callum_62
29-08-2021, 06:15 AM
The referee called it correct as attacking players can’t be without 1 yard/metre(unsure which) of the wall, but the fact he allowed them to stand there and let the free kick be taken is shambolic, he surely has to tell them to step awayWhy should he need to tell them to step away?



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Onion
29-08-2021, 07:25 AM
Why should he need to tell them to step away?



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In the same way he tells a wall to move back 10 yards or tells the goalkeeper not to move off his line at a pen etc etc

allezsauzee
29-08-2021, 07:29 AM
In the same way he tells a wall to move back 10 yards or tells the goalkeeper not to move off his line at a pen etc etc

The difference being that it's going to result in a re-take (or should) in those other two situations. The most baffling decision for me was the one to let Porto take the free kick.

Crunchie
29-08-2021, 08:57 AM
The difference being that it's going to result in a re-take (or should) in those other two situations. The most baffling decision for me was the one to let Porto take the free kick.
I think it baffled us all but great to see all the same, the guy exudes confidence for one so young and can only be a good thing for him and us.

JimBHibees
29-08-2021, 09:20 AM
The difference being that it's going to result in a re-take (or should) in those other two situations. The most baffling decision for me was the one to let Porto take the free kick.

Was just about to say the exact same. Nisbet has scored free kicks and Porto is pushing him off the ball to take the kick. As for the shot itself was like a passback. Hopefully doesn't happen again.

Peevemor
29-08-2021, 09:30 AM
Mark my words, they'll have been working on it in training and at some point it'll come off - with Porto whapping it ben from 30yds.

dalkeith stu
29-08-2021, 09:56 AM
The referee called it correct as attacking players can’t be without 1 yard/metre(unsure which) of the wall, but the fact he allowed them to stand there and let the free kick be taken is shambolic, he surely has to tell them to step away

They weren't when the ball was kicked!!! Unless you are allowed 2 walls!!!

Alex Trager
29-08-2021, 10:11 AM
I’m more interested as to why RP is taking a set piece

Northernhibee
29-08-2021, 10:19 AM
I’m more interested as to why RP is taking a set piece

He left the club when Ron Gordon took over and besides, he’s not had any game time.

Shouldn’t be near the team, nor his ‘tache

Fuzzywuzzy
29-08-2021, 10:29 AM
He pointed three times so I had thought that 3 had gone offside

WhileTheChief..
29-08-2021, 10:29 AM
:top marks:thumbsup:

Billy Whizz
29-08-2021, 10:34 AM
I’m more interested as to why RP is taking a set piece

I’m not, I’m presuming he’s been practicing them in training. He strikes a lovely ball

tamig
29-08-2021, 10:34 AM
They weren't when the ball was kicked!!! Unless you are allowed 2 walls!!!

Did you read the bit from the rule posted on the first page? Thats what happened and why it ended up as an indirect free kick against us. McLean had already warned the offending Hibs players before the kick was taken. It was foolish from our players and a wasted opportunity.

HibeesLA
30-08-2021, 04:26 PM
Well, unless the hand signal for that offence is the same as offside, then he gave it for the reason above but I don't think it is. The ref clearly pointed to KN, and then made the offside signal

There's no hand signal for offside, there is a hand signal to indicate that a free kick is Indirect, which is the hand held straight up in the air until the ball is touched by a second player. Offside is restarted with an Indirect Free Kick, so that's why the hand signal.

overdrive
30-08-2021, 04:32 PM
Why should he need to tell them to step away?



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He shouldn’t. Except he appeared to tell a Livi player to get out of the way a bit later on (I think it was the free kick given against Porteous).

500miles
30-08-2021, 05:02 PM
I'd assume that Porteous is taking freekicks in training and doing well if Nisbet isn't on them.

Hibee Mac
30-08-2021, 05:54 PM
Don't see the problem in Porteous having a go at direct free kicks. Nisbet is pretty p*sh at them and we don't really have anyone else who's good at them.