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Pretty Boy
28-08-2021, 03:51 PM
That's a goal of the season contender for me. Close passing, lovely wee flick from Allan, outstanding finish by Boyle.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Boyle again! Great composed finish.
Vault Boy
28-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Allan and Boyle, sexy football.
e2los
28-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Anybody else feeling nervous?
Very much so, doesn't matter if we are by far the better team if we give away a cheap goal.
Boyler!!....
Never a doubt...
OtleyHibs
28-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Thats a great goal, nice exchange between Boyle and Allan and a great finish
Callum_62
28-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Wonderful finish and what a back heel by Allan too
Game over
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cabbageandribs1875
28-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Martin Boyle looking to become the first player to score in each of the first four league games since the scottish premiership was established in 2013
well done martin boyle :cb
Callum_62
28-08-2021, 03:52 PM
Thats a great goal, nice exchange between Boyle and Allan and a great fini**** was a great few mins from us to keep it alive too
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neil7908
28-08-2021, 03:52 PM
Love seeing Allan back
CentreLine
28-08-2021, 03:52 PM
We’ll done Hibs
CmoantheHibs
28-08-2021, 03:52 PM
Fantastic goal by Hibs. Boyle with a superb finish after a classy back heel by Scotty.
Torto7
28-08-2021, 03:53 PM
Daz has had a great game. Dominant.
Yeah. McGinn solid too, good to see.
GreenCastle
28-08-2021, 03:53 PM
Drey Wright done well since coming on.
Looks like top of the league clash when we play Hearts next at Tynie.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 03:54 PM
. Shut up Cliff!
Callum_62
28-08-2021, 03:54 PM
Edinburgh clubs flying high ahead of the derby
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GreenCastle
28-08-2021, 03:54 PM
Love seeing Allan back
He just has that X factor but needs the legs around him to do the running.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 03:56 PM
Well done Hibs.
Peeve's 100% match update thread record remains intact!
Callum_62
28-08-2021, 03:56 PM
Considering our incredible injury list 10 points from 12 is a great return
It should have been 12 from 12 too
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Vault Boy
28-08-2021, 03:57 PM
Outstanding start to the season. Can't help but think there's so much more to come from this team too.
Since452
28-08-2021, 03:57 PM
Unreal start to the season considering injuries
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 03:58 PM
Outstanding start to the season. Can't help but think there's so much more to come from this team too.Understrength against a very stuffy team - I'm not sure we would have won that last season.
CmoantheHibs
28-08-2021, 03:58 PM
It wasn’t us at our best but totally dominant without creating too much. Livi sat in for most of the game so not easy to play against. Good 3 points.
Bridge hibs
28-08-2021, 03:59 PM
Outstanding start to the season. Can't help but think there's so much more to come from this team too.Moreso when we add a wee bit more quality, certainly wont be pushovers
Tambo
28-08-2021, 04:00 PM
Delighted with that 3 points. Thought we dominated the ball but it was a little scrappy at times but top of the league going into the international break.
GGTTH
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 04:00 PM
That electric scooter advert looks like something from the Father Ted parody of "Speed".
FilipinoHibs
28-08-2021, 04:00 PM
Ggtth ktf
Tambo
28-08-2021, 04:01 PM
Two cracking goals today also.
Big_Franck
28-08-2021, 04:03 PM
Better second half performance there. Two great goals from our two best players. Magennis and JDH were brilliant throughout. On to the derby top of the league.
cabbageandribs1875
28-08-2021, 04:04 PM
That electric scooter advert looks like something from the Father Ted parody of "Speed".
with 10% off as well
25008
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 04:06 PM
with 10% off as well
25008Aye, 10% slower.
cameronw-hfc
28-08-2021, 04:06 PM
Think of all players, Drey Wright has really improved from last season. He's still only getting 20 mins here and there, but it's much more productive when he comes on than last season. Still has the odd hiccup, but seems to be slowly growing in confidence
Pretty Boy
28-08-2021, 04:07 PM
Couple of weeks to get bodies fit and new faces in for the derby.
I think we could be in for a cracker there.
JohnMcM
28-08-2021, 04:08 PM
Happy to get 3 points that at half time looked beyond us if we are honest. Just not ‘clinical’ enough, but man, those two goals were classy individual efforts, and that back heel by Scott Allan was something we’ve waited a wee while to see.
jacomo
28-08-2021, 04:09 PM
Great win well played Hibs.
cabbageandribs1875
28-08-2021, 04:09 PM
25009
He's here!
28-08-2021, 04:12 PM
Well done Hibs. Important to get the 3 points after letting them slip last week.
What's our longest spell as league leaders in recent memory? Think Lennon had us top for a wee while and I remember Fenlon did too but today means we'll have been there for about six weeks as we go into the derby.
JoeTortolanoFanClub
28-08-2021, 04:14 PM
It was good to be back. That is what really matters.
Since452
28-08-2021, 04:14 PM
I love this Hibs team. In years gone by we'd have heard all the excuses under the sun about not winning a game like that. Injuries, stuffy team parking the bus, lack of concentration in the closing minutes etc ect ect. We've won both home games as well now. Top of the league going into the international break. Well done Hibs.
Ronniekirk
28-08-2021, 04:15 PM
Anybody else feeling nervous?
Did Macey have. Save to make ? Not sure he did
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hibees 7062
28-08-2021, 04:17 PM
25009
Done deal :aok:
seanshow
28-08-2021, 04:22 PM
Good 3 points, shame about the couple of injuries, Livi using every tactic in the book to slow the game down, p||s poor team.
cabbageandribs1875
28-08-2021, 04:26 PM
Done deal :aok:
kool, welcome to Hibernian
B.H.F.C
28-08-2021, 04:27 PM
Will take that. Pretty poor game, two quality goals.
hibees 7062
28-08-2021, 04:34 PM
https://youtu.be/F_EZXJ4Tp-Q?t=103
NATHAN WOOD TO BURNLEY FOR 9 MILLION
Moulin Yarns
28-08-2021, 04:37 PM
https://youtu.be/F_EZXJ4Tp-Q?t=103
NATHAN WOOD TO BURNLEY FOR 9 MILLION
:confused:
Pilrig_Sauzee
28-08-2021, 04:37 PM
Like many first game back for me. Without it being ‘Total Football’, we dominated and won 2-0. The folk who had a poor game last week, generally played well, Wright got some room to get more confidence, and Allan threw some bits of class for good measure.
A Hi-Bee
28-08-2021, 04:38 PM
Great 3 points while not playing at our best is the sign of a bloody good team, bring oon the manky gorgie ones.
GGTTH
:greengrin
H18 SFR
28-08-2021, 04:40 PM
Even this early it is a big win. Like many have said, previous recent seasons we might not have won that one.
hibees 7062
28-08-2021, 04:41 PM
:confused:
Burnley ready to splash £9million on Middlesbrough centre-back Nathan Wood (https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/burnley-ready-to-splash-ps9million-on-middlesbrough-centre-back-nathan-wood)
tamig
28-08-2021, 04:41 PM
https://youtu.be/F_EZXJ4Tp-Q?t=103
NATHAN WOOD TO BURNLEY FOR 9 MILLION
No sure what your link was meant to be but that story was around in 2019.
weecounty hibby
28-08-2021, 04:41 PM
I hope to **** they get relegated. Horrible team and a horrible club who being nothing to the top league in Scotland. They were actually wanting time when 0-1 down!!
tamig
28-08-2021, 04:42 PM
Burnley ready to splash £9million on Middlesbrough centre-back Nathan Wood (https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/burnley-ready-to-splash-ps9million-on-middlesbrough-centre-back-nathan-wood)
Aye - two years ago.
cabbageandribs1875
28-08-2021, 04:44 PM
i'll be raging if Livi put pressure on us this season with just several games remaining :)
25010
mon Ross Co tomorrow
hibees 7062
28-08-2021, 04:45 PM
Aye - two years ago.
I know . Let's hope he's not lost it
Moulin Yarns
28-08-2021, 04:46 PM
Burnley ready to splash £9million on Middlesbrough centre-back Nathan Wood (https://twnews.co.uk/gb-news/burnley-ready-to-splash-ps9million-on-middlesbrough-centre-back-nathan-wood)
Your first link, from 2019 was
Nathan Ferguson | 2019/20 Best Moments7,123 views
Apr 15, 2020
which is why I was confused!!!!
Since452
28-08-2021, 04:47 PM
Aye - two years ago.
Is that long 🤷*♂️
Keith_M
28-08-2021, 04:55 PM
I don't think we were at our best in the first half but second obviously a big improvement.
Big shout out to the Fans today. I thought the atmosphere was pretty good.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 04:56 PM
Not all that exciting a performance. Livi were really poor and we were by far the better team although we struggled to create a lot.
Good game to just tick off a win and move on.
Hibs90
28-08-2021, 04:56 PM
Much better in the second, tempo upped.
MWHIBBIES
28-08-2021, 04:57 PM
Easy 3 points against a poor side. Onto the next
tamig
28-08-2021, 04:59 PM
Is that long 🤷*♂️
I thought the poster was being mischievous and suggesting Burnley were about to scupper us.
Springbank
28-08-2021, 05:00 PM
Think of all players, Drey Wright has really improved from last season. He's still only getting 20 mins here and there, but it's much more productive when he comes on than last season. Still has the odd hiccup, but seems to be slowly growing in confidence
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
Smartie
28-08-2021, 05:01 PM
It’s always good to win when you’re not at your best.
First half was pretty poor, second half much better.
I thought all of our defenders played well (Porto had a few of his moments but he was great other than that) and our keeper had very little to do.
The midfield looked better after the enforced change, even if it took Scott Allan a wee while to get into the game.
Our goals were from 2 moments of proper quality. The first one was a goal out of almost nothing and Nisbet deserves huge credit for giving us something to defend, the second was glorious stuff from Allan and Boyle.
A really good day’s work tbh and I think you can almost take more from an imperfect day like that than from a day when everything clicks.
Well Done Darren McGregor and Paul McGinn especially - both have come in for criticism for different reasons lately, both were very tidy and amongst our best performers today.
Bobby's Cinema
28-08-2021, 05:04 PM
Not all that exciting a performance. Livi were really poor and we were by far the better team although we struggled to create a lot.
Good game to just tick off a win and move on.
Pretty much what I thought. Thought we were very sloppy by our standards first half touches and passing though we came close to it clicking. Moments of quality from our best players along with gritty and hardworking display from our midfield got us through it.
I thought Daz was immense and my MOTM and we limited them to pretty much zero. Can't even think of any balls coming into our box we never let them get that close. Scott will take time to get up to speed but on that evidence I'd be a bit concerned if we never brought in another striker.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 05:04 PM
It’s always good to win when you’re not at your best.
First half was pretty poor, second half much better.
I thought all of our defenders played well (Porto had a few of his moments but he was great other than that) and our keeper had very little to do.
The midfield looked better after the enforced change, even if it took Scott Allan a wee while to get into the game.
Our goals were from 2 moments of proper quality. The first one was a goal out of almost nothing and Nisbet deserves huge credit for giving us something to defend, the second was glorious stuff from Allan and Boyle.
A really good day’s work tbh and I think you can almost take more from an imperfect day like that than from a day when everything clicks.
Well Done Darren McGregor and Paul McGinn especially - both have come in for criticism for different reasons lately, both were very tidy and amongst our best performers today.
Agree with that. Most of the players done fine, no stand outs but we were always streets ahead.
The only two I would say I was disappointed in were Scott and Wright. Hoped for more from Scott after last week and Wright… well he’s just not at our level really.
Pedantic_Hibee
28-08-2021, 05:05 PM
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
You watched the same game as me. I’m hesitant to tear into a player in green but he is f******g hopeless. Give an academy lad a chance rather than bringing Wright on.
cameronw-hfc
28-08-2021, 05:05 PM
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
This is so off it's unbelievable. I thought he was much improved today, but to say he was embarrassing? You've got something against him haha. He's not had a good time of it at Hibs, but that was far from embarrassing from him.
MWHIBBIES
28-08-2021, 05:06 PM
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
This is just lies. Played well, done his job. Helped Doig and kept the ball well
Pedantic_Hibee
28-08-2021, 05:07 PM
This is just lies. Played well, done his job. Helped Doig and kept the ball well
It’s not lies. He done absolutely nothing. I can’t think of a single positive thing he did when he had the ball. Not one. And I paid close attention to him when he came on.
RyeSloan
28-08-2021, 05:08 PM
This is so off it's unbelievable. I thought he was much improved today, but to say he was embarrassing? You've got something against him haha. He's not had a good time of it at Hibs, but that was far from embarrassing from him.
Exactly. He was fine. Couple of odd decisions / touches but generally was no where near embarrassing!
Moulin Yarns
28-08-2021, 05:12 PM
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
He is a Hibs player, and deserves a bit of support.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 05:16 PM
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes onNonsense!
Bridge hibs
28-08-2021, 05:18 PM
He is a Hibs player, and deserves a bit of support.Good shout mate, same ***** from the same posters
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 05:19 PM
Exactly. He was fine. Couple of odd decisions / touches but generally was no where near embarrassing!
And that’s the issue. In 20 minutes there was a couple of odd decisions and a couple of odd decisions. That’s a lot of poor moments when you come on with 20 minutes to go.
hibsbollah
28-08-2021, 05:20 PM
He is a Hibs player, and deserves a bit of support.
:agree: Comfy win, top of the league, and some folk feel the need to berate a fringe player, like that’s the main story here. Bizarre.
Fergos
28-08-2021, 05:23 PM
He is a Hibs player, and deserves a bit of support.
Totally
if they wear the Hibernian badge without disrespecting it - support them.
GGTTH
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
If you want to analysis it like that, Ryan made more mistakes today than Drey Wright.
Caught ball watching a couple of times and Daz in covering for him??
Is that embarrassing??
The guy was part of a team that win 2 nil and kept us top of the table!
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Since452
28-08-2021, 05:33 PM
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
I thought he did well today as he did at Dens. Opinions eh!
Tambo
28-08-2021, 05:33 PM
I thought drey has been ok this season when been asked to come on and apart from a poor touch/pass to Scott don't think be done much wrong.
MWHIBBIES
28-08-2021, 05:34 PM
It’s not lies. He done absolutely nothing. I can’t think of a single positive thing he did when he had the ball. Not one. And I paid close attention to him when he came on.
You didn't pay any attention. Game should be up on Hibs TV tomorrow so you can try again.
Got involved, started a good move with a pass to Boyle on the right. When Doig was down he immediately covered left back and made a clearence. Good cameo.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 05:35 PM
And that’s the issue. In 20 minutes there was a couple of odd decisions and a couple of odd decisions. That’s a lot of poor moments when you come on with 20 minutes to go.Surely we can make allowances given that he's only getting sporadic appearances that often correspond with a change in the teams shape.
Other players have the right to come on to their game - Drey doesnt in the eyes of some.
As I said earlier today, I was never that chuffed when he started last season but it honestly wouldn't bother me now. He had ability and a wee bit of confidence has done him good.
Borderhibbie76
28-08-2021, 05:35 PM
Think of all players, Drey Wright has really improved from last season. He's still only getting 20 mins here and there, but it's much more productive when he comes on than last season. Still has the odd hiccup, but seems to be slowly growing in confidence
Sadly too young guys behind me done nothing but rip the poor guy to shreds for the entire 20 mins - prior to that one was Macey they were ripping apart...somethings I never missed during lockdown
lord bunberry
28-08-2021, 05:38 PM
Sadly too young guys behind me done nothing but rip the poor guy to shreds for the entire 20 mins - prior to that one was Macey they were ripping apart...somethings I never missed during lockdown
That’s mental, Macey hardly had a thing to do all game.
Pedantic_Hibee
28-08-2021, 05:38 PM
You didn't pay any attention. Game should be up on Hibs TV tomorrow so you can try again.
Got involved, started a good move with a pass to Boyle on the right. When Doig was down he immediately covered left back and made a clearence. Good cameo.
The quicker you stop ramming your opinions down people’s throats on every single thread the better. You’re a constant on here, relentlessly trying to grind anyone down who disagrees with you. Absolute pest.
I saw him with my own eyes and he is simply not good enough for Hibs in my opinion.
Wright aside, I thought we were well in control throughout. JDH and Magennis were excellent.
GreenPJ
28-08-2021, 05:38 PM
I thought drey has been ok this season when been asked to come on and apart from a poor touch/pass to Scott don't think be done much wrong.
First 10 mins passed him by but the more he got on the ball he got a little more confidence. As for James Scott I like his enthusiasm and you can see he has some nice touches but he has lots to learn and definitely doesn't like the physical aspect of the game on that showing.
PatHead
28-08-2021, 05:39 PM
The first touch Drey had today poor. After that he settled down into a decent steady match.
Can't ask for much more from him.
Slim Shady
28-08-2021, 05:41 PM
Think of all players, Drey Wright has really improved from last season. He's still only getting 20 mins here and there, but it's much more productive when he comes on than last season. Still has the odd hiccup, but seems to be slowly growing in confidence
Are you for real?
Drey Wright is one of the worst players I’ve seen at Easter Road since Alan OBrien.
He doesn’t bring anything to the team. Can’t control the ball, can’t pass, can’t tackle and is a wage thief.
For a team that is run as a business, one player out before we pay another.
We need to release this mug!
flash
28-08-2021, 05:44 PM
You didn't pay any attention. Game should be up on Hibs TV tomorrow so you can try again.
Got involved, started a good move with a pass to Boyle on the right. When Doig was down he immediately covered left back and made a clearence. Good cameo.
He was poor today. Turned his back on a couple of ariel challenges and let the boy stroll past him down the wing a couple of times.
Nothing personal but hopefully he is gone by Tuesday night.
Smartie
28-08-2021, 05:44 PM
First 10 mins passed him by but the more he got on the ball he got a little more confidence. As for James Scott I like his enthusiasm and you can see he has some nice touches but he has lots to learn and definitely doesn't like the physical aspect of the game on that showing.
My opinion of James Scott on that showing - he’s never a centre forward in a million years.
Didn’t manage to jump for a header let alone win anything in the air. One of the worst aerial performances I’ve seen from a player that size.
Struggled to hold the ball up, it was bouncing off him a bit so wasn’t much use with his back to goal.
I thought he looked pretty dangerous with the ball at his feet when he was out wide though, decent pace and quick feet.
He reminded me a bit of a chunkier Colin Nish - temptation is there to lump it up to him because he’s fairly big, but that’s just not his game at all. Get the ball to his feet and you’ve got a different player.
Obviously he’s still just finding his feet, but if for any reason we were to lose Nisbet and play him through the middle every week then I think we’d be in a bit of trouble.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 05:44 PM
Surely we can make allowances given that he's only getting sporadic appearances that often correspond with a change in the teams shape.
Other players have the right to come on to their game - Drey doesnt in the eyes of some.
As I said earlier today, I was never that chuffed when he started last season but it honestly wouldn't bother me now. He had ability and a wee bit of confidence has done him good.
Scott Allan makes sporadic appearances, he came on and set up the goal that finished the game. Stevenson mostly now makes sporadic appearances and is generally almost faultless.
The fact Wright generally comes on as a sub doesn’t mean he gets to be exempt from criticism or expectation imo. Drifting somewhere between anonymous to really poor appearance after appearance isn’t enough for a team wanting to be 3rd imo.
Since452
28-08-2021, 05:45 PM
Are you for real?
Drey Wright is one of the worst players I’ve seen at Easter Road since Alan OBrien.
He doesn’t bring anything to the team. Can’t control the ball, can’t pass, can’t tackle and is a wage thief.
For a team that is run as a business, one player out before we pay another.
We need to release this mug!
Not a fan then?
Hibernian Verse
28-08-2021, 05:47 PM
We need to release this mug!
What a way to describe a Hibs player.
Since452
28-08-2021, 05:47 PM
My opinion of James Scott on that showing - he’s never a centre forward in a million years.
Didn’t manage to jump for a header let alone win anything in the air. One of the worst aerial performances I’ve seen from a player that size.
Struggled to hold the ball up, it was bouncing off him a bit so wasn’t much use with his back to goal.
I thought he looked pretty dangerous with the ball at his feet when he was out wide though, decent pace and quick feet.
He reminded me a bit of a chunkier Colin Nish - temptation is there to lump it up to him because he’s fairly big, but that’s just not his game at all. Get the ball to his feet and you’ve got a different player.
Obviously he’s still just finding his feet, but if for any reason we were to lose Nisbet and play him through the middle every week then I think we’d be in a bit of trouble.
I was impressed with him last week but wasn't today. The wee break will do him and others wonders
Callum_62
28-08-2021, 05:48 PM
Lol
Its funny the way folk pick out any mistake a certain player makes and totally gloss over another
Wright gave the ball away a couple of times but was generally fine
Certainly miles short of 'embaressing'
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H18 SFR
28-08-2021, 05:48 PM
My opinion of James Scott on that showing - he’s never a centre forward in a million years.
Didn’t manage to jump for a header let alone win anything in the air. One of the worst aerial performances I’ve seen from a player that size.
Struggled to hold the ball up, it was bouncing off him a bit so wasn’t much use with his back to goal.
I thought he looked pretty dangerous with the ball at his feet when he was out wide though, decent pace and quick feet.
He reminded me a bit of a chunkier Colin Nish - temptation is there to lump it up to him because he’s fairly big, but that’s just not his game at all. Get the ball to his feet and you’ve got a different player.
Obviously he’s still just finding his feet, but if for any reason we were to lose Nisbet and play him through the middle every week then I think we’d be in a bit of trouble.
As long as we wholeheartedly commit to not shelling it up to him we can play him into the game once he is fully fit and in shape.
Smartie
28-08-2021, 05:48 PM
Drey Wright had a mixed time if it - a few decent touches, the odd horror show.
Everyone is free to reinforce their opinion on that showing as they’ll find something to back it up.
I quite like him as a player and whilst it wasn’t as disastrous as some are making out, his performance today was short of what I’d expect from a Hibs player, a bit too sloppy in possession.
He also just looks like he doesn’t think he’s up to it, a body language thing. It’s hard to believe in him when he doesn’t look like he believes in himself.
Hibrandenburg
28-08-2021, 05:49 PM
Just popped on to this thread to read how we got on today as I couldn't watch the game. Sounds like we deserved to get beat.
RyeSloan
28-08-2021, 05:50 PM
And that’s the issue. In 20 minutes there was a couple of odd decisions and a couple of odd decisions. That’s a lot of poor moments when you come on with 20 minutes to go.
Not seeing anyone say he was faultless but he wasn’t embarrassing…that’s a ridiculous assessment to make of his 20 minutes. He was fine, nothing less, nothing more.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 05:50 PM
Scott Allan makes sporadic appearances, he came on and set up the goal that finished the game. Stevenson mostly now makes sporadic appearances and is generally almost faultless.
The fact Wright generally comes on as a sub doesn’t mean he gets to be exempt from criticism or expectation imo. Drifting somewhere between anonymous to really poor appearance after appearance isn’t enough for a team wanting to be 3rd imo.Scott Allan was anonymous for half an hour after coming on today. Maybe Drey Wright might have set up a goal had he had more than 20 minutes.
I think Wright looks better this season, others might not but some won't give him a chance regardless.
Northernhibee
28-08-2021, 05:51 PM
Are you for real?
Drey Wright is one of the worst players I’ve seen at Easter Road since Alan OBrien.
He doesn’t bring anything to the team. Can’t control the ball, can’t pass, can’t tackle and is a wage thief.
For a team that is run as a business, one player out before we pay another.
We need to release this mug!
Wow.
Since452
28-08-2021, 05:52 PM
Just popped on to this thread to read how we got on today as I couldn't watch the game. Sounds like we deserved to get beat.
Not at all. Was the most comfortable win you'll see all season. Just the usual moaning about anything on here.
BSEJVT
28-08-2021, 05:52 PM
Hibs Net is an increasingly depressing place
Some folks opinions are either all sugar or all *****
The completely over the top criticism of some of our players sickens me.
Whilst I know it wont last we are top of the league
WTF would it be like if we were bottom?
In what shape or form do you think that that is going to help the player(s) concerned?
If a player has a poor game give 3 or 4 out of 10 absolutely no need for the character assignations or puerile comments.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 05:53 PM
Scott Allan was anonymous for half an hour after coming on today. Maybe Drey Wright might have set up a goal had he had more than 20 minutes.
I think Wright looks better this season, others might not but some won't give him a chance regardless.
The fact that the argument for Drey Wright is that he might have set up a goal had he had longer speaks volumes imo. Especially when he very, very rarely does that.
With regards to folk not giving him a chance. He’s made 33 appearances now. Let’s not make out like these opinions are based on 1 or 2 games. We’ve all seen enough to form an opinion.
Callum_62
28-08-2021, 05:54 PM
Are you for real?
Drey Wright is one of the worst players I’ve seen at Easter Road since Alan OBrien.
He doesn’t bring anything to the team. Can’t control the ball, can’t pass, can’t tackle and is a wage thief.
For a team that is run as a business, one player out before we pay another.
We need to release this mug!Now that is embaressing
A wage thief? You need a lie down I reckon
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CentreLine
28-08-2021, 05:55 PM
My opinion of James Scott on that showing - he’s never a centre forward in a million years.
Didn’t manage to jump for a header let alone win anything in the air. One of the worst aerial performances I’ve seen from a player that size.
Struggled to hold the ball up, it was bouncing off him a bit so wasn’t much use with his back to goal.
I thought he looked pretty dangerous with the ball at his feet when he was out wide though, decent pace and quick feet.
He reminded me a bit of a chunkier Colin Nish - temptation is there to lump it up to him because he’s fairly big, but that’s just not his game at all. Get the ball to his feet and you’ve got a different player.
Obviously he’s still just finding his feet, but if for any reason we were to lose Nisbet and play him through the middle every week then I think we’d be in a bit of trouble.
I think most of what you say is true in respect of the symptoms but I don’t think he is going to prove to be a bad player. What I do think, despite his short spell at Motherwell, is that he has been taken by surprise by how physical players are allowed to be in Scotland without being pulled up. Scott was hacked, pulled, pushed and harassed all day and will need to learn to adjust to that game quickly so as not to be weak in our next game and those that follow. But he has two really good feet and he’s a strong looking guy. I firmly believe we will be glad of his presence until Doidge comes back fit.
Mikey_1875
28-08-2021, 05:55 PM
Wright gave the ball away a couple of times but was generally fine
Certainly miles short of 'embaressing'
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Pretty much how I seen it. Not too good, not too bad. Would never bring him on to change a game but fine for seeing out 20 mins in a depleted hibs team. No doubt we will go separate ways when his contract runs out at end of season but can fill in as and when required until then
Smartie
28-08-2021, 05:57 PM
Just popped on to this thread to read how we got on today as I couldn't watch the game. Sounds like we deserved to get beat.
We toiled a bit throughout the first half. At no point did I feel like we were second best but we weren’t comfortably on top.
It all worked out well in the end which can distract from the fact that it was bumpy along the way at times.
Our defenders played pretty well throughout the game so even when it wasn’t happening for us going forward, I don’t remember them testing our keeper at any point, one second half free kick that missed the target apart.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 05:58 PM
The fact that the argument for Drey Wright is that he might have set up a goal had he had longer speaks volumes imo.So does people willingly ignoring that Scott Allan did bog all for half an hour.
Why not apply the same criteria to every player when it comes to criticism (or even praise)?
Mon Dieu4
28-08-2021, 05:58 PM
Just popped on to this thread to read how we got on today as I couldn't watch the game. Sounds like we deserved to get beat.
We won at a canter, we had another couple of gears we could have went through if needed, if we had our strongest 11 available it would have been an even comfier 4 or 5 nil, I have zero complaints about today's game other than the East Stand linesman and the ref
Callum_62
28-08-2021, 05:58 PM
The fact that the argument for Drey Wright is that he might have set up a goal had he had longer speaks volumes imo.I think it's more to do with the fact that Allan done aboslutely nothing or lost the ball for more time than Drey Wright was actually on the park and no one would ever say he was embaressing
We sit top of the league and look a more than decent outfit
Yet we get fans calling some of our players 'embaressing'
Its the way OTT nature of what some folk come out with for me
We are unbeaten in the league so far this season and a tad unlucky not be maximum points
I can't see how anyone of our squad should be getting the flak they are
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MWHIBBIES
28-08-2021, 05:58 PM
The quicker you stop ramming your opinions down people’s throats on every single thread the better. You’re a constant on here, relentlessly trying to grind anyone down who disagrees with you. Absolute pest.
I saw him with my own eyes and he is simply not good enough for Hibs in my opinion.
Wright aside, I thought we were well in control throughout. JDH and Magennis were excellent.
Cheers, I appreciate the kind words. I'm not in every thread though, another thing you'd said that's untrue.
He might not be good enough for Hibs. But making stuff up isn't needed. He done fine today.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 05:59 PM
I think it's more to do with the fact that Allan done aboslutely nothing or lost the ball for more time than Drey Wright was actually on the park and no one would ever say he was embaressing
We sit top of the league and look a more than decent outfit
Yet we get fans calling some of our players 'embaressing'
Its the way OTT nature of what some folk come out with for me
We are unbeaten in the league so far this season and a tad unlucky not be maximum points
I can't see how anyone of our squad should be getting the flak they are
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Smartie
28-08-2021, 06:00 PM
I think most of what you say is true in respect of the symptoms but I don’t think he is going to prove to be a bad player. What I do think, despite his short spell at Motherwell, is that he has been taken by surprise by how physical players are allowed to be in Scotland without being pulled up. Scott was hacked, pulled, pushed and harassed all day and will need to learn to adjust to that game quickly so as not to be weak in our next game and those that follow. But he has two really good feet and he’s a strong looking guy. I firmly believe we will be glad of his presence until Doidge comes back fit.
I don’t think he’s going to be a bad player for us at all - as long as we play him out wide. I thought he looked dangerous out there.
That opinion is based on 90 minutes only, with team mates he’s only been with for a week.
Their centre halves played a pretty physical game but he looked like he had no answers to that.
CentreLine
28-08-2021, 06:00 PM
Pretty much how I seen it. Not too good, not too bad. Would never bring him on to change a game but fine for seeing out 20 mins in a depleted hibs team. No doubt we will go separate ways when his contract runs out at end of season but can fill in as and when required until then
I agree but I think the reason he came on today was to restore our width out left. Jim Scott wasn’t getting any joy out there and we needed him back in the middle when Nisbet went off. Just not convinced Wright is working out for us but we do need squad players right now
CentreLine
28-08-2021, 06:03 PM
So does people willingly ignoring that Scott Allan did bog all for half an hour.
Why not apply the same criteria to every player when it comes to criticism (or even praise)?
Yes, not much came off for Scott Allan either but we know what he’s capable of and so do opposition teams who have to work to keep him down.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 06:06 PM
So does people willingly ignoring that Scott Allan did bog all for half an hour.
Why not apply the same criteria to every player when it comes to criticism (or even praise)?
Allan set up the goal that finished the game with an outstanding assist. He didn’t do a lot else.
Wright looked out his depth.
It’s not that the same criteria isn’t being used. It’s that the two players contributions were significantly different.
Onion
28-08-2021, 06:08 PM
Easy 3 points against a poor side. Onto the next
Keep racking up the points. JR's record against the smaller clubs is unreal. If only he could ..... lets see in 2 weeks time. :greengrin
7 shots on goal in first half, not 1 on target is not great but flip side, clean sheet. Though Darren was outstanding today.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 06:08 PM
Allan set up the goal that finished the game with an outstanding assist. He didn’t do a lot else.
Wright looked out his depth.So had Allan come on with only 20 minutes to go, he may well have done nothing at all.
Would there have been posts about how crap he is?
tamig
28-08-2021, 06:08 PM
Would love you to be right but it's just not at all the reality mate.
Drey Wright was embarrassing today.
He actually ran away from the ball when their right back took a poor touch past him.
When given the chance to open up the play to the left (ball into him from the right) he just tapped it away to a livi player.
I mean it when I say I'd love you to be right but it's a shambles when Wright comes on
That’s utter nonsense about Wright’s performance today. Were you watching reruns of games from last season? Think he gave the ball away once after he came on today and was absolutely fine otherwise.
Embarrassing? You’re having a laugh.
Leith Green
28-08-2021, 06:09 PM
I thought Drey wright looked honking when he came on to be honest. In his defence quite possibly the worst team and scenario facing him when he came on. Our general play in final 3rd was poor and we were only 1 up. I really struggle to see what he brings to the plate if truth be told
Heisenberg
28-08-2021, 06:09 PM
Thought it was fairly straightforward today. Livi offered nothing and we were comfortable. Would’ve liked a bit more from Scott.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 06:10 PM
So had Allan come on with only 20 minutes to go, he may well have done nothing at all.
Would there have been posts about how crap he is?
I don’t know because it didn’t happen. Neither do you.
When Allan has had poor games since he came back people almost always say how they don’t reckon we’ll see the same Allan ever again. He’s in no way exempt from criticism.
Leith Green
28-08-2021, 06:12 PM
Keep racking up the points. JR's record against the smaller clubs is unreal. If only he could ..... lets see in 2 weeks time. :greengrin
7 shots on goal in first half, not 1 on target is not great but flip side, clean sheet. Though Darren was outstanding today.
To be fair , this Hibs side is reminiscent of sides that have gone to Glasgow and took the points and had a good go. Hopefully we see that this season , and get a couple of wins there
worcesterhibby
28-08-2021, 06:12 PM
Are you for real?
Drey Wright is one of the worst players I’ve seen at Easter Road since Alan OBrien.
He doesn’t bring anything to the team. Can’t control the ball, can’t pass, can’t tackle and is a wage thief.
For a team that is run as a business, one player out before we pay another.
We need to release this mug!
You sound like a 3 year old who isn’t allowed a sweetie. Hibs unbeaten and top of the league, just won comfortably at home and you on here abusing Hibs players. And I mean “Abusing” …not constructive criticism, not offering any knowledge or insight, just giving a guy in green online abuse. Have a word with yourself. Pathetic.
SaulGoodman
28-08-2021, 06:13 PM
I don’t rate Wright.
I’d probably stop short of calling any Hibs player “a wage thief” “mug” or “an embarrassment” though.
Billy Whizz
28-08-2021, 06:13 PM
A lot of bickering on here as usual, and we had a good and comfortable win. Team played well and we had a good performance, particularly 2nd half, and 2 cracking goals
Off the park we are still well short of being a top of the league team, too many problems that need sorted quickly
Let’s get behind the lads on the park!
Northernhibee
28-08-2021, 06:15 PM
A lot of bickering on here as usual, and we had a good and comfortable win. Team played well and we had a good performance, particularly 2nd half, and 2 cracking goals
Off the park we are still well short of being a top of the league team, too many problems that need sorted quickly
Let’s get behind the lads on the park!
It’s ****ing pathetic and the same usual suspects who pop up every single time. Been working all day, popped on here to see what happened and couldn’t even work out if we’d won.
Absolutely tedious.
Having looked elsewhere, that’s a good result against a stuffy team and two good goals by the sound of it. Good to see Nissy back with a goal and Martin Boyle is unstoppable.
wookie70
28-08-2021, 06:18 PM
Wright was very nervy for his first couple of involvements but settled quickly and was fine thereafter. Scottie came on and hardly got involved in the game, second to most ball, but he too began to get the pace of the game and had a couple of good moments one which led to the goal. Two players who aren't getting much game time and have to get the rust off for 10 minutes before they start to perform. Neither are good enough for the starting 11 imo but both are handy to have off the bench. Allan as he has a bit of magic now and again and Wright as he is very versatile, works really hard and doesn't hide. Good squad players
A Hi-Bee
28-08-2021, 06:18 PM
I don’t know because it didn’t happen. Neither do you.
When Allan has had poor games since he came back people almost always say how they don’t reckon we’ll see the same Allan ever again. He’s in no way exempt from criticism.
Just how long do we think it takes a player to become match Fit while sitting on the bench for months, with 20mins or so of game time every so often?
If they have a Hibs shirt on then they deserve a bit of support.
:greengrin
Alfred E Newman
28-08-2021, 06:18 PM
Hibs Net back to its painful worst.
Some of the stuff on here is unbelievable.
Thank goodness we won.
A Hi-Bee
28-08-2021, 06:21 PM
Hibs Net back to its painful worst.
Some of the stuff on here is unbelievable.
Thank goodness we won.
Ha ha it is funny as, tempted to say that I believe many are no even close to being Hibs Supporters, just on here to throw sheite around.
:greengrin
worcesterhibby
28-08-2021, 06:23 PM
Well done to every single player wearing green today, everyone contributed to the win. Livi are a horrible side to watch and to play against and the team went about things in a professional manner and scored two fine goals
. :flag::flag:
cameronw-hfc
28-08-2021, 06:24 PM
The way I see it, has Drey been good for us? No. But he's had an awful time of it in the past year, some off field issues to deal with as well. I'm willing to write off last season for him and give him this year, but it seems a large section of our fans don't want him to succeed. Do I think he's good enough? No. But id like to be proved wrong, and hell get my full support as long as he's here.
Keith_M
28-08-2021, 06:24 PM
It’s ****ing pathetic and the same usual suspects who pop up every single time. ...
Absolutely tedious.
....
:agree:
There's a small handful of people that post on here that just won't let up in any argument and basically bring the place down for everybody else.
I really don't understand what their motivation is.
lord bunberry
28-08-2021, 06:25 PM
Apparently a livi player had a diabetic fit on the pitch and has been taken to hospital, Bruce Anderson I think.
Keith_M
28-08-2021, 06:26 PM
Apparently a livi player had a diabetic fit on the pitch and has been taken to hospital, Bruce Anderson I think.
That's not good. Hope he's OK.
Northernhibee
28-08-2021, 06:27 PM
Apparently a livi player had a diabetic fit on the pitch and has been taken to hospital, Bruce Anderson I think.
Hope he’s fighting fit as soon as possible.
Pishing myself at some of the posts in this thread. Folk getting into heated arguments about Drey Wright ffs
Pedantic_Hibee
28-08-2021, 06:31 PM
:agree:
There's a small handful of people that post on here that just won't let up in any argument and basically bring the place down for everybody else.
I really don't understand what their motivation is.
Correct.
Since452
28-08-2021, 06:32 PM
We are undefeated and top of the league right?
a large section of our fans don't want him to succeed.
Because sticking to their opinion is more important to them than Hibs. Anyone slightly sticking up for Wright will get the usual replies telling them they are wrong. Argue back and it's a long tedious exercise ping-ponging posts back and forth just to show how much their opinion means to them.
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Since452
28-08-2021, 06:38 PM
Because sticking to their opinion is more important to them than Hibs. Anyone slightly sticking up for Wright will get the usual replies telling them they are wrong. Argue back and it's a long tedious exercise ping-ponging posts back and forth just to show how much their opinion means to them.
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Yup. There are folk who have nailed their colours to the mast about Wright who will never change their opinion through stubbornness no matter how well he does. We've seen it with Jack Ross, Newell, Doidge and others too.
I'm not sure what people's issue is with DW.
He's not exactly starting is he? Personally think it's really good to have an experienced pro as back up if Boyle gets injured.
Very good squad player.
Folk need to calm it.
Green_one
28-08-2021, 06:43 PM
Ha ha it is funny as, tempted to say that I believe many are no even close to being Hibs Supporters, just on here to throw sheite around.
:greengrin
On the plus side I thought the actual Hibs support today was pretty good. The drummer and his group did well too. I do think we are overplaying SoL. I enjoyed the first one but there are lots of other options for the end of the game.
Overall I thought Livi were poor compared to last season. Lots of positives today. We have some quality players, new and old. Good to see Daz having a good outing.
O'Rourke3
28-08-2021, 06:47 PM
I thought Wright did ok today. Certainly helped Doig on the left. His first pass.was off and his only other obvious error was when he tried to lay a ball off that went in the wrong direction in what was looking like a promising attack. It was around this time we started to see more one touch with good running off the ball. Boyles goal came in a period we ran the clock down in their half rather than nervously at the back. Manager has faith in him and Ross himself is only one defeat away from threads about his being not good enough.
Was maybe expecting a bit more from Mr Scott. Looked really leggy and tired. But we would have started pre season a few weeks before Hull. Hope he'll come good. Made a nice change Alston not scoring against us, then injuring himself too.
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Brightside
28-08-2021, 06:50 PM
Good game from Hibs today. Hard team to break down as expected. But we played well. Very composed. If anyone is really not going to Hibs game coz they somehow don’t fancy this current team then I’d give up football for good. Streets ahead of what we have had in the past.
hibsbollah
28-08-2021, 06:51 PM
We are undefeated and top of the league right?
Post of the day.
Let’s ****ing kick back and enjoy it FFS :party:
Been working all day today and just about to watch the highlights, seemed to be a comfortable win by reading the comments on here which is good to hear, a very decent start to the season.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 06:56 PM
Been working all day today and just about to watch the highlights, seemed to be a comfortable win by reading the comments on here which is good to hear, a very decent start to the season.
Comfortable but nothing exciting is about how I’d describe it. A case of job done and move on. :agree:
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 07:02 PM
Decent run of the mill win against a crap team.
Hopefully they go down the leagues where they belong. Pointless football club.
worcesterhibby
28-08-2021, 07:04 PM
Hibs top of the League, beer in hand, fishing gear sorted for a lovely morning on the river tomorrow morning…proper weekend :greengrin:greengrin
:flag::thumbsup::flag:
Inconsequential
28-08-2021, 07:09 PM
He was poor today. Turned his back on a couple of ariel challenges and let the boy stroll past him down the wing a couple of times.
Nothing personal but hopefully he is gone by Tuesday night. He doesn't need to win any ARIEL challenges as long as DAZ is in the side. Hibs are the cleanest side in the SPL. Fact. Squeaky.
stantonhibby
28-08-2021, 07:11 PM
Allan set up the goal that finished the game with an outstanding assist. He didn’t do a lot else.
Wright looked out his depth.
It’s not that the same criteria isn’t being used. It’s that the two players contributions were significantly different.
Lets hope you are as wrong about Wright as you were about Magennis👍
MagicSwirlingShip
28-08-2021, 07:13 PM
:agree:
There's a small handful of people that post on here that just won't let up in any argument and basically bring the place down for everybody else.
I really don't understand what their motivation is.
Sad sack syndrome
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 07:15 PM
Lets hope you are as wrong about Wright as you were about Magennis👍
Absolutely.
stantonhibby
28-08-2021, 07:17 PM
Absolutely.
👍
Dashing Bob S
28-08-2021, 07:19 PM
I thought Wright did ok today. Certainly helped Doig on the left. His first pass.was off and his only other obvious error was when he tried to lay a ball off that went in the wrong direction in what was looking like a promising attack. It was around this time we started to see more one touch with good running off the ball. Boyles goal came in a period we ran the clock down in their half rather than nervously at the back. Manager has faith in him and Ross himself is only one defeat away from threads about his being not good enough.
Was maybe expecting a bit more from Mr Scott. Looked really leggy and tired. But we would have started pre season a few weeks before Hull. Hope he'll come good. Made a nice change Alston not scoring against us, then injuring himself too.
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Never a fitba player. (Dreary wife beating voice)
Hibs top of the League, beer in hand, fishing gear sorted for a lovely morning on the river tomorrow morning…proper weekend :greengrin:greengrin
:flag::thumbsup::flag:
I'd rather you didn't contribute to match threads when we're playing Livi, JC. Just brings back memories of the only time we met.
tamig
28-08-2021, 07:23 PM
I thought Wright did ok today. Certainly helped Doig on the left. His first pass.was off and his only other obvious error was when he tried to lay a ball off that went in the wrong direction in what was looking like a promising attack. It was around this time we started to see more one touch with good running off the ball. Boyles goal came in a period we ran the clock down in their half rather than nervously at the back. Manager has faith in him and Ross himself is only one defeat away from threads about his being not good enough.
Was maybe expecting a bit more from Mr Scott. Looked really leggy and tired. But we would have started pre season a few weeks before Hull. Hope he'll come good. Made a nice change Alston not scoring against us, then injuring himself too.
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Sibbald you mean?
TelaStella
28-08-2021, 07:26 PM
Apologies if posted elsewhere but only just heard Bruce Anderson suffered a diabetic fit on the pitch today? Now doing sound in hospital apparently. Wish the boy all the best.
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greenlex
28-08-2021, 08:13 PM
I felt the only thing strange about Drey today was why was he not just a straight replacement for Murphy?
Smartie
28-08-2021, 08:16 PM
I felt the only thing strange about Drey today was why was he not just a straight replacement for Murphy?
I think Drey is a "defend what you've already got" rather than a "go out and get more" sort of player.
We were toiling to create as it was, and it was 0-0. We needed something different.
I thought we played better after the initial change, and Wright going on later - after we had something to defend - was the correct choice.
SHODAN
28-08-2021, 08:20 PM
I'm not sure what people's issue is with DW.
He's not exactly starting is he? Personally think it's really good to have an experienced pro as back up if Boyle gets injured.
Very good squad player.
Folk need to calm it.
People need a scapegoat.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 08:41 PM
People need a scapegoat.
Or people just watch him and don’t think he’s very good :dunno:
Nothing to do with scapegoats, nothing to do with refusing to change their mind on a player, nothing sinister. Just people having an opinion on a player.
Yes we’re top of the league, yes we’re doing well as a team. That doesn’t negate people’s opinions on one individuals performance.
People don’t have a problem with him. People don’t think Gullan is good enough. Nobody ever suggests people have a problem with him. People suggest Allan might never make it back to being good enough to start for us. Nobody ever suggests people have a problem with him. I would suggest he doesn’t even get nearly as many people desperately sticking up for him even though he’s given Hibs fans a lot more reason to.
People are looking far too much into what is simply an opinion people hold on a player who hasn’t come close to performing well enough to even threaten to get into our starting 11 regularly.
O'Rourke3
28-08-2021, 08:43 PM
Sibbald you mean?Indeed [emoji1787]. You knew who I was meaning. Cheers.
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AltheHibby
28-08-2021, 08:50 PM
Apologies if posted elsewhere but only just heard Bruce Anderson suffered a diabetic fit on the pitch today? Now doing sound in hospital apparently. Wish the boy all the best.
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BBC report:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58372111
worcesterhibby
28-08-2021, 08:51 PM
I'd rather you didn't contribute to match threads when we're playing Livi, JC. Just brings back memories of the only time we met.
That wasn't the best day was it...Good trip till the match started mind you !
AFKA5814_Hibs
28-08-2021, 08:52 PM
Sibbald you mean?
Craig Sibbald was a player we were talking about before the game. Always seemed to score against us. Couldn't believe he is still only 26, seems to have been about for years.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 08:57 PM
Or people just watch him and don’t think he’s very good :dunno:
Nothing to do with scapegoats, nothing to do with refusing to change their mind on a player, nothing sinister. Just people having an opinion on a player.
Yes we’re top of the league, yes we’re doing well as a team. That doesn’t negate people’s opinions on one individuals performance.
People don’t have a problem with him. People don’t think Gullan is good enough. Nobody ever suggests people have a problem with him. People suggest Allan might never make it back to being good enough to start for us. Nobody ever suggests people have a problem with him. I would suggest he doesn’t even get nearly as many people desperately sticking up for him even though he’s given Hibs fans a lot more reason to.
People are looking far too much into what is simply an opinion people hold on a player who hasn’t come close to performing well enough to even threaten to get into our starting 11 regularly.People are saying that he's s***e and the worst player to play for us in over 10 years.
That's just wrong.
People aren't having to defend Allan because nobody's saying that he's s***e.
Do you not see the difference?
This is very much about people being unwilling to change their mind.
CMac1988
28-08-2021, 09:00 PM
Thought we played ok today. Enough to get a win without too much trouble. McGregor was probably my man of the match. Drey Wright gets a lot of flack (most if it unjust imo) but done well when he came on. Always looking to get involved and get on the ball.
3 win form 4 and no losses. Great start irrespective of our opponents. GGTTH.
mcohibs
28-08-2021, 09:00 PM
Anyone slating DW for his performance today needs to have a look at themselves, he done alright for the 20 mins he was on and looked keen to get on the ball. Nothing more nothing less.
The audible groans around me when it was announced he was coming on were embarrassing. Woman next to me said something along the lines of 'that's us ****ed then'. Get a grip ffs.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:04 PM
People are saying that he's s***e and the worst player to play for us in over 10 years.
That's just wrong.
People aren't having to defend Allan because nobody's saying that he's s***e.
Do you not see the difference?
This is very much about people being unwilling to change their mind.
He’s not the worst player to play for us. Whilst I’m not going to call him *****, I’m not sure it can be argued that successfully that he’s not based on his performances for us.
Until Drey Wright puts in a performance to make people change their mind then it’s absolutely not about that. You say that as if people have had every reason to change their mind and refuse to do so. If anything, each performance he gives only gives reason to reinforce the opinion he’s not good enough rather than change it.
I was a big critic of Magennis last season. I’ve changed my mind. Plenty others are the same. So why would they not change their mind on Drey Wright if he gave us reason to?
Joe Newell and Doidge were slaughtered on here when they signed. Not anymore. Vast majority if not all people have changed their mind. Again, why would they not with Drey Wright?
People don’t have a personal vendetta against Drey Wright as much as people want to suggest as much every time he’s discussed. They have an opinion. One that his performances never do anything to change. Which if they were good enough, there’s plenty evidence that people would change their opinion.
MWHIBBIES
28-08-2021, 09:05 PM
Anyone slating DW for his performance today needs to have a look at themselves, he done alright for the 20 mins he was on and looked keen to get on the ball. Nothing more nothing less.
The audible groans around me when it was announced he was coming on were embarrassing. Woman next to me said something along the lines of 'that's us ****ed then'. Get a grip ffs.
Yep, it's pathetic. Then they hide behind their right to an opinion, and insult others who call them out.
Wright was fine today. Not a problem at all. He may not be good enough but today he was.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 09:09 PM
Until Drey Wright puts in a performance to make people change their mind then it’s absolutely not about that. You say that as if people have had every reason to change their mind.
I was a big critic of Magennis last season. I’ve changed my mind. Plenty others are the same. So why would they not change their mind on Drey Wright if he gave us reason to?
Joe Newell and Doidge were slaughtered on here when they signed. Not anymore. Vast majority if not all people have changed their mind. Again, why would they not with Drey Wright?
People don’t have a personal vendetta against Drey Wright. They have an opinion. One that his performances never do anything to change.
The vast majority of those on here who have commented on Wright today have said that he did fine.
A handful are saying he was garbage.
I'll leave it there.
Also, I certainly haven't changed my mind about Newell or Doidge because I never "slaughtered" either to start off. Just the same as I'm currently not slating Gogic or McGinn.
stoneyburn hibs
28-08-2021, 09:11 PM
The three and top of the league will do me
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 09:11 PM
I don’t think Drew Wright is good enough to take us to where we want to get to. I don’t think JR does either, and think he’ll be away by the end of the window.
See when folk talk about fans having ‘agendas’ against players, what do they mean? Or do they just not know that an agenda is?!
If I think a player is humpty, how does that translate into me having some kind of agenda? I just don’t rate him. It’s not personal, it’s just a view on a player.
Just cause he’s a Hibs player doesn’t mean that I’ve got to think he’s good, that’s just nonsense. I mean, I maybe did that when I was 8, but not so much these days.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:12 PM
The vast majority of those on here who have commented on Wright today have said that he did fine.
A handful are saying he was garbage.
I'll leave it there.
I’m not sure what your point is tbh.
Everyone has different opinions. You don’t have to just go with the majority.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:14 PM
I don’t think Drew Wright is good enough to take us to where we want to get to. I don’t think JR does either, and think he’ll be away by the end of the window.
See when folk talk about fans having ‘agendas’ against players, what do they mean? Or do they just not know that an agenda is?!
If I think a player is humpty, how does that translate into me having some kind of agenda? I just don’t rate him. It’s not personal, it’s just a view on a player.
Just cause he’s a Hibs player doesn’t mean that I’ve got to think he’s good, that’s just nonsense. I mean, I maybe did that when I was 8, but not so much these days.
Yup.
It’s laughable to suggest that folk have taken a look at Drey Wright and went “**** this dick, I hate him” as some would have you believe.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 09:16 PM
Yup.
It’s laughable to suggest that folk have taken a look at Drey Wright and went “**** this dick, I hate him” as some would have you believe.
Well it's the only thing that explains some of the utter nonsense that's been posted about him tonight.
I'll stop now.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:17 PM
Well it's the only thing that explains some of the utter nonsense that's been posted about him tonight.
I'll stop now.
Ah yes, the majority of people thought he was ‘fine’ so any other opinion is “utter nonsense”.
I wonder if his ‘fine’ performance will see him start next week? No? I wonder why..
For all the chat about how people go on about him, you’re about the main culprit for dragging things like this out when you declare people’s opinions as nonsense etc all the time because they’re not the same as yours.
mcohibs
28-08-2021, 09:21 PM
I’m not sure what your point is tbh.
Everyone has different opinions. You don’t have to just go with the majority.
When you're gauging the performance of a player the majority tend to be correct though. The general consensus is that Drey Wright did okay in the 20 mins he was on the park. Nothing special but to suggest he was useless, murder etc. is so far off the mark that I'd question those people's opinion on anything else Hibs/football related.
tamig
28-08-2021, 09:22 PM
Craig Sibbald was a player we were talking about before the game. Always seemed to score against us. Couldn't believe he is still only 26, seems to have been about for years.
I think he broke through at Falkirk at a really young age. Been a thorn in our side far too many times and that semi defeat at Hampden under Stubbs where he scored the winner was a real sickener.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:23 PM
When you're gauging the performance of a player the majority tend to be correct though. The general consensus is that Drey Wright did okay in the 20 mins he was on the park. Nothing special but to suggest he was useless, murder etc. is so far off the mark that I'd question those people's opinion on anything else Hibs/football related.
No, the majority don’t tend to be correct because all anyone has on here is an opinion. There is no right or wrong. It’s opinions. By their very nature they aren’t correct or incorrect, regardless of whether the opinions are split 50/50, 75/25 or 99/1.
If people think Drey Wright was ****, they’re not wrong, that’s how they saw it. If people think Drey Wright was ****ing dynamite, that’s how they saw it.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 09:24 PM
No, the majority don’t tend to be correct because all anyone has on here is an opinion. There is no right or wrong. It’s opinions. By their very nature they aren’t correct or incorrect, regardless of whether the opinions are split 50/50, 75/25 or 99/1.
What? Opinions can't be right or wrong? I've heard it all now.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:29 PM
What? Opinions can't be right or wrong? I've heard it all now.
When it comes to football performances which is what we’re discussing, no, they can’t.
Just when you thought you’d heard it all you’ve heard a wee bit more.
PatHead
28-08-2021, 09:30 PM
Ah yes, the majority of people thought he was ‘fine’ so any other opinion is “utter nonsense”.
I wonder if his ‘fine’ performance will see him start next week? No? I wonder why..
For all the chat about how people go on about him, you’re about the main culprit for dragging things like this out when you declare people’s opinions as nonsense etc all the time because they’re not the same as yours.
Won't start next week because we aren't playing.
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 09:30 PM
The fact that JR has gone out and signed a whole new midfield kinda points to him thinking that that area of the pitch needed strengthened.
The fact that Magennis and Doyle-Hayes are regular starters suggests that JR thinks they’re better than what we had before.
With Mackay and Mueller still to feature, where does that leave Gogic and Wright? On their way out is my guess. JR already alluded to moving players on that want to play.
So, I’m not slating them, I’m agreeing with our top-notch manager. You know better?? :greengrin
Andy74
28-08-2021, 09:32 PM
When it comes to football performances which is what we’re discussing, no, they can’t.
Just when you thought you’d heard it all you’ve heard a wee bit more.
Anyone can believe what they want, but that opinion can certainly be wrong.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:34 PM
Anyone can believe what they want, but that opinion can certainly be wrong.
Care to tell me how you measure the right and wrong of an opinion on a football performance?
What are the thresholds from each part of the performance that players need to pass to have played well and what are the thresholds they need to fail to reach to have played badly?
Andy74
28-08-2021, 09:40 PM
Care to tell me how you measure the right and wrong of an opinion on a football performance?
What are the thresholds from each part of the performance that players need to pass to have played well and what are the thresholds they need to fail to reach to have played badly?
I think that level of worrying about it will be a bit boring for most people.
If you thought for example that Kyle Magennis was rubbish today you’d be entitled to that view but you’d simply be wrong, so it isn’t impossible as you suggest.
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 09:42 PM
This thing about opinions came up last season a lot.
If someone finds a film, play, book or football match boring, then it was boring to them. The person sitting next to them might have thought it was the most exciting thing ever. How can you possibly say they were wrong? That’s just pure arrogance right there.
It’s the same as liking or not liking Strawberry Ribena. To me it’s clearly wrong, but someone must like it.
Andy74
28-08-2021, 09:43 PM
This thing about opinions came up last season a lot.
If someone finds a film, play, book or football match boring, then it was boring to them. The person sitting next to them might have thought it was the most exciting thing ever. How can you possibly say they were wrong? That’s just pure arrogance right there.
It’s the same as liking or not liking Strawberry Ribena. To me it’s clearly wrong, but someone must like it.
That’s about whether they enjoyed it or not, which is a personal preference thing.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 09:44 PM
The fact that JR has gone out and signed a whole new midfield kinda points to him thinking that that area of the pitch needed strengthened.
The fact that Magennis and Doyle-Hayes are regular starters suggests that JR thinks they’re better than what we had before.
With Mackay and Mueller still to feature, where does that leave Gogic and Wright? On their way out is my guess. JR already alluded to moving players on that want to play.
So, I’m not slating them, I’m agreeing with our top-notch manager. You know better?? :greengrin
I'll never have a problem with our manager looking to improve the squad and, like everyone else, I'll be happy, sad or indifferent to see different players leave.
I also agree with our top notch manager in that I don't think Drey Wright has let us down at all when called upon this season - otherwise he surely wouldn't keep playing him.
calumhibee1
28-08-2021, 09:47 PM
I think that level of worrying about it will be a bit boring for most people.
If you thought for example that Kyle Magennis was rubbish today you’d be entitled to that view but you’d simply be wrong, so it isn’t impossible as you suggest.
I’m worrying about it. You’re telling me that there’s right and wrong with opinions on football performances. I’d love to know how to measure it so I can be right.
Just because their opinion is different to yours, it isn’t wrong.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 09:47 PM
This thing about opinions came up last season a lot.
If someone finds a film, play, book or football match boring, then it was boring to them. The person sitting next to them might have thought it was the most exciting thing ever. How can you possibly say they were wrong? That’s just pure arrogance right there.
It’s the same as liking or not liking Strawberry Ribena. To me it’s clearly wrong, but someone must like it.
In your opinion, will there be more or less spectators for our next home match than there were today?
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 09:51 PM
That’s about whether they enjoyed it or not, which is a personal preference thing.
Is that not what we’re talking about though?
Let’s say I enjoy a game that you think was a bit crap. Neither of us are right or wrong.
Now let’s say everyone else on here agrees with you, that doesn’t suddenly mean you’re right.
What am I missing?!
cameronw-hfc
28-08-2021, 09:52 PM
This thing about opinions came up last season a lot.
If someone finds a film, play, book or football match boring, then it was boring to them. The person sitting next to them might have thought it was the most exciting thing ever. How can you possibly say they were wrong? That’s just pure arrogance right there.
It’s the same as liking or not liking Strawberry Ribena. To me it’s clearly wrong, but someone must like it.
I think the main sticking point is the over the top nature of the criticism towards Drey. He done fine, but to see people suggesting he was embarrassing / shocking is mind-boggling as he was fine. He was shocking a lot last season, but he was far from it today. If someone said he wasn't impressed when he came on that would have been different, but it's the over the top slaughtering of a boy that's not done anything drastically wrong today, at all.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 09:54 PM
I think the main sticking point is the over the top nature of the criticism towards Drey. He done fine, but to see people suggesting he was embarrassing / shocking is mind-boggling as he was fine. He was shocking a lot last season, but he was far from it today. If someone said he wasn't impressed when he came on that would have been different, but it's the over the top slaughtering of a boy that's not done anything drastically wrong today, at all.
Exactly. Thank you.
Andy74
28-08-2021, 09:54 PM
No, they wouldn’t. Just because their opinion is different to yours, it isn’t wrong.
That’s rubbish. It’s very different being entitled to an opinion to believing that you can still be right about it despite all reasonable evidence.
To go down your way more tedious route then there are all sorts of analytical ways to measure the contribution of footballers in a game. To use today’s example again if you were to argue that Kyle Magennis was terrible today you’d simply be wrong.
MagicSwirlingShip
28-08-2021, 09:55 PM
Half ten on a Saturday night, Hibs sitting top of the table and Hibs fans are arguing on .net about whether it’s possible to have a correct opinion on a footballers performance.
Bedtime
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 09:56 PM
In your opinion, will there be more or less spectators for our next home match than there were today?
Next home game is St Mirren I think.
I’d imagine the crowd will be bigger than today but it could depend on the derby result. Winning that and staying top of the league would hopefully see a decent bump.
I think our attendance will hover around 13-15k this season, with the obvious exceptions.
JimBHibees
28-08-2021, 09:56 PM
I think the main sticking point is the over the top nature of the criticism towards Drey. He done fine, but to see people suggesting he was embarrassing / shocking is mind-boggling as he was fine. He was shocking a lot last season, but he was far from it today. If someone said he wasn't impressed when he came on that would have been different, but it's the over the top slaughtering of a boy that's not done anything drastically wrong today, at all.
Agree seems senseless and unfair. Thought he was ok nothing more nothing less. Seems unnecessary and unfair on the guy.
Peevemor
28-08-2021, 09:58 PM
Next home game is St Mirren I think.
I’d imagine the crowd will be bigger than today but it could depend on the derby result. Winning that and staying top of the league would hopefully see a decent bump.
I think our attendance will hover around 13-15k this season, with the obvious exceptions.
So you're opinion is that the crowd will be bigger. I tend to agree.
We'll see if we're right or wrong.
Lancs Harp
28-08-2021, 09:59 PM
Does Marv still turn out for Livingston or is he just coaching these days?
Andy74
28-08-2021, 10:00 PM
Is that not what we’re talking about though?
Let’s say I enjoy a game that you think was a bit crap. Neither of us are right or wrong.
Now let’s say everyone else on here agrees with you, that doesn’t suddenly mean you’re right.
What am I missing?!
You’re talking about your perception of a thing, which is personal to you.
Actual performance, like a result too, can be assessed and you could absolutely be wrong if you had an opinion that was contrary to the evidence.
If it was your opinion that we drew the game today then yes, that’s your option but it’s wrong. If you thought Magennis or Boyle were rubbish then you can of course be wrong about that too because they manifestly weren’t.
You might not have enjoyed their performances. That’s up to you.
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 10:00 PM
There’s been less than half a dozen posts about Drey Wright that could be classed as abuse or over the top.
Look back through the thread if you can be assed and you’ll most folk are saying he did fine today. Me too.
It’s the lack of tolerance for the few extreme views that have dragged this on till this time of night.
In my own defence, I only got home from the game a couple of hours ago so this is just like teatime for me or here.
AFKA5814_Hibs
28-08-2021, 10:00 PM
Does Marv still turn out for Livingston or is he just coaching these days?
He was suspended for today's game.
Crunchie
28-08-2021, 10:01 PM
Half ten on a Saturday night, Hibs sitting top of the table and Hibs fans are arguing on .net about whether it’s possible to have a correct opinion on a footballers performance.
Bedtime
A good movie coming on Film4 at 11.15 leave the children to their bickering :greengrin
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 10:01 PM
You’re talking about your perception of a thing, which is personal to you.
Actual performance, like a result too, can be assessed and you could absolutely be wrong if you had an opinion that was contrary to the evidence.
If it was your opinion that we drew the game today then yes, that’s your option but it’s wrong. If you thought Magennis or Boyle were rubbish then you can of course be wrong about that too because they manifestly weren’t.
Ok, I know what you are saying, but I can’t have an opinion on a tangible fact!
We won. No one can have an ‘opinion’ that we lost.
Lancs Harp
28-08-2021, 10:04 PM
Ok, I know what you are saying, but I can’t have an opinion on a tangible fact!
We won. No one can have an ‘opinion’ that we lost.
Its a football message board I'm sure someone can express an opinion we lost :greengrin
We "lost" sales at the food kiosks, apparently :wink:
mcohibs
28-08-2021, 10:04 PM
A good movie coming on Film4 at 11.15 leave the children to their bickering :greengrin
There are no good or bad movies. Only opinions on what are good and bad movies :greengrin
BSEJVT
28-08-2021, 10:05 PM
Not sure that the different ratings of any players performance is the issue here.
Folk are just getting a bit fed up at some of the vitriol folk use to describe certain players.
There will always be folk who think player A is 1/10 and player B is a 10/10 every single week when to most observers they have had middling 5/10 performances
There is absolutely no need even in that lexicon of marking for some of the comments I have witnessed about our players
This season seems worse than ever and we are top of the league
We have had players in the past who disrespected the club or didn’t give a damn you could argue deserved some grief
Not one of the current squad does and IMO it’s time folk given the sensationalist push a rest it’s neither big nor clever and sadly predictable as to both who it’s directed to and who is spouting it
Grow up FFS
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 10:06 PM
So you're opinion is that the crowd will be bigger. I tend to agree.
We'll see if we're right or wrong.
Yeah, we’ll see if we’re right in what I’m thinking. It’s not really an opinion though.
My favourite ever football player is Eric Cantona.
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2021, 10:08 PM
There are no good or bad movies. Only opinions on what are good and bad movies :greengrin
And we still don’t know which movie it is :grr:
Block
28-08-2021, 10:10 PM
This thing about opinions came up last season a lot.
If someone finds a film, play, book or football match boring, then it was boring to them. The person sitting next to them might have thought it was the most exciting thing ever. How can you possibly say they were wrong? That’s just pure arrogance right there.
It’s the same as liking or not liking Strawberry Ribena. To me it’s clearly wrong, but someone must like it.
Your point is only valid if folk approach declaring an opinion with an open mind.
Its highly likely a sizable number have already decided upon Drey and close their mind to how he actually plays and are all too ready to criticise him whether the criticism is justified or not.
Personally, I thought he did okay today.
Bangkok Hibby
29-08-2021, 04:11 AM
On the plus side I thought the actual Hibs support today was pretty good. The drummer and his group did well too. I do think we are overplaying SoL. I enjoyed the first one but there are lots of other options for the end of the game.
Overall I thought Livi were poor compared to last season. Lots of positives today. We have some quality players, new and old. Good to see Daz having a good outing.
Is SOL played often now at games? I'd hate it to become devalued or god forbid boring through overuse. 🤔
Lee Marvin
29-08-2021, 05:52 AM
Is SOL played often now at games? I'd hate it to become devalued or god forbid boring through overuse. 🤔
Exactly this. I'm hoping it was just as it was the first full.game back though.
It has no place for any game outside a derby IMO, for the exact reason you stated.
That is my only grip about yesterday.
Crunchie
29-08-2021, 06:36 AM
Exactly this. I'm hoping it was just as it was the first full.game back though.
It has no place for any game outside a derby IMO, for the exact reason you stated.
That is my only grip about yesterday.
Cup Finals, derbies and games against Rantic would be the only time for me.
DIXIHIBS
29-08-2021, 07:48 AM
Cup Finals, derbies and games against Rantic would be the only time for me.
Thats my thoughts exactly. Before and after every game is too much. Its a special occasion song....keep it that way.
calumhibee1
29-08-2021, 07:55 AM
I’m presuming SOL was only played due to it being the first game back with full fans.
I certainly hope it isn’t going to become an every week thing.
Since452
29-08-2021, 08:01 AM
The time to hear SOL is after a big win. Not before a game if you're reading this Barrie.
BILLYHIBS
29-08-2021, 08:04 AM
The team should run out to Hector Nicol
‘Gie the baw tae Reilly ‘
Sir David Gray
29-08-2021, 08:10 AM
I’m presuming SOL was only played due to it being the first game back with full fans.
I certainly hope it isn’t going to become an every week thing.
I'm assuming so.
Ronniekirk
29-08-2021, 10:32 AM
We are top of the l
League despite our ever growing injury list Yes we have played some poor teams at the lower end of the league But a few seasons ago it was these teams we couldn’t beat and last season our home form wasn’t great
So many positives to take but people just want to keep ****ing Moaning
A wee break to get done players back for the Derby game and to add to squad
What’s not to Enjoy just now Ffs
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mjhibby
29-08-2021, 06:06 PM
On the actual football side two cracking goals. Great business getting Boyle signed and hopefully nisbet. Just sublime finishes.
gbhibby
29-08-2021, 10:17 PM
Does Marv still turn out for Livingston or is he just coaching these days?
Probably would have played but Livi cocked up his suspension. He was in the dugout for two games Livi thought that would be him served his suspension but he should not have taken part in coaching either.
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