Man city player charged with rape

[cabbageandribs1875]

Benjamin Mendy: Manchester City footballer charged with rape - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58348288)

Manchester City footballer Benjamin Mendy has been charged with rape.


The 27-year-old defender has been charged with four counts of rape and one count of sexual assault, Cheshire Police said.


The charges relate to three complainants over the age of 16 and are alleged to have taken place between October 2020 and August this year.


Mr Mendy, of Prestbury, has been remanded in custody and will appear at Chester Magistrates' Court on Friday.

[hibbysam]

Benjamin Mendy: Manchester City footballer charged with rape - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58348288)

Manchester City footballer Benjamin Mendy has been charged with rape.


The 27-year-old defender has been charged with four counts of rape and one count of sexual assault, Cheshire Police said.


The charges relate to three complainants over the age of 16 and are alleged to have taken place between October 2020 and August this year.


Mr Mendy, of Prestbury, has been remanded in custody and will appear at Chester Magistrates' Court on Friday.



Time after time after time. Just no idea what goes through their heads. ****bag. All the money and fame in the world and he goes and does this.

[The_Exile]

I’ll never understand why people are named before proven guilty, of any crime.

[Peevemor]

I’ll never understand why people are named before proven guilty, of any crime.Especially rape & other sex related crimes. Guilty or not your life's goosed, while even a malicious accuser remains anonymous.

[Magpie]

Disgusting behaviour, deserves the jail.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’ll never understand why people are named before proven guilty, of any crime.

This would never remain secret, it's too high profile. And 4 accusations is a lot. He is most likely guilty.

[Since90+2]

Disgusting behaviour, deserves the jail.

Deserves the jail before he's even had the right to a trial to ascertain his guilt? That's not a society I'd like to live in.

[BSEJVT]

Deserves the jail before he's even had the right to a trial to ascertain his guilt? That's not a society I'd like to live in.

But what if the incarcerated's continued liberty posed a threat to others?

The decision to remand someone in custody isn't automatic, it is made by a judge on the basis of the facts before them.

If any UK judge thinks that any individual should be denied their liberty before their trial based on the facts before them then I am not going to argue with them, particularly given the seriousness of the allegations in this case.

[Since90+2]

But what if the incarcerated's continued liberty posed a threat to others?

The decision to remand someone in custody isn't automatic, it is made by a judge on the basis of the facts before them.

If any UK judge thinks that any individual should be denied their liberty before their trial based on the facts before them then I am not going to argue with them, particularly given the seriousness of the allegations in this case.

I understood the poster to be saying he deserves the jail for what he's allegedly done before the trial takes place rather than a decision on whether he is remanded or not. If I've misunderstood the poster then apologies.

[Since452]

If he's innocent his life will never be the same again. Horrific crime but also horrific for the wrongly accused. We'll see how it pans out.

[Newry Hibs]

I’ll never understand why people are named before proven guilty, of any crime.

One reason given is that it may lead to others coming forward to add to the prosecution case.

[calumhibee1]

One reason given is that it may lead to others coming forward to add to the prosecution case.

Dreadful logic if that’s why they do it imo.

[BSEJVT]

Especially rape & other sex related crimes. Guilty or not your life's goosed, while even a malicious accuser remains anonymous.

100%.

Although I suspect in practical terms the name will get out there on a localised basis and much of the damage to the accused's day to day life and future in that locality will have been done.

[Peevemor]

One reason given is that it may lead to others coming forward to add to the prosecution case.If the accused was anonymous until proven guilty there would be far less of a media circus (none in theory), particularly in high profile cases. Would this maybe encourage more victims to report crimes immediately?

I don't know, but I definitely believe the accused should be granted the same anonymity as the victim(s).

[Sir David Gray]

Dreadful logic if that’s why they do it imo.

I do seem to remember hearing that reason being given in the past, particularly if the accused is famous.

Personally I think the accused should remain anonymous until convicted.

[Spike Mandela]

Dreadful logic if that’s why they do it imo.

Worth a read if people are interested in how the CPS prosecute allegations of rape in England and Wales.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/key-facts-about-how-CPS-prosecutes-allegations-rape

[Pretty Boy]

One reason given is that it may lead to others coming forward to add to the prosecution case.

I think the issue often raised with that is that every charge should be strong enough on it's own merit. It's one of the reasons why an application has to be made for the prosecution to reference relevant previous convictions in court. Said convictions are freely considered when sentencing. I'm not saying I agree with that but it's one argument.

I have pretty strong feelings around rape and sexual assault and the pitiful conviction rates for both. There often seems to be a black and white view that if a man is found not guilty then the lady involved is a scheming liar who has ruined his life. I daresay that has happened but I would argue the truth is often far more of a grey area. It's entirely possible that a woman truly believes she has been the victim of a crime rather than making a malicious and false allegation. I've experienced that with a friendship group of my own and it's a horrible situation; incidentally the 'poor guy' involved, who was in receipt of much sympathy when found not guilty, was jailed a couple of years later for another brutal sex crime. It's such an emotive subject and a crime that is so hard to prove, if the incident is not reported immediately then much of the prosecution case relies on circumstantial evidence and one persons word against another.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I think the UK needs to take a fresh look at rape, domestic violence against women and femicide.

My wife tells me Owen Jones wrote that in the UK it’s like we appear through our laws and attitudes have this acceptance that rape is OK. Low conviction rates, treatment and assumptions about complainants.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to have a daughter but this applies to all women. We have a role to play to. What is the % of malisciously false accusations? How many rapists are let off due to technicalities or presumptions of jurors exploited by defence - trashing victims character and history?

We can’t just assume the law works - clearly it does not. The reason rapists continue to do what they do it because they grow in confidence - the odds are stacked in their favour whether it teachers court or not sadly.

women need protected. They need to be informed about potentially abusive partners and rapists whether high profile or not - and finally - given the high profile nature of this case don’t kid yourselves that this guys lawyers have not tried to get injunctions to prevent the publication of his name. It must have been deemed in the public interest.

[CentreLine]

Deserves the jail before he's even had the right to a trial to ascertain his guilt? That's not a society I'd like to live in.

Yes, I agree, the internet has become the new 18th century style mob rule and is capable of whipping up a genuine mob on occasions too. Sickening in a modern society. I hope he is given a fair trial and is treated accordingly before and after a fair verdict, whatever that may be.

I am also coming round to the way of thinking that our legal system is not categorising these serious sexual crimes properly. Up until the late 80s early 90s, rape was a very clearly defined crime. It was specifically only a crime against women and had to involve force and physically overcoming the victim. That crime should be much easier to prove or disprove whilst acknowledging it was still difficult.

The definition was then changed to include a much broader spectrum of actions or lack of actions and to include both sexes as victims. Quite correctly the word “no” became the boundary not to be crossed. These are serious, horrible crimes but I feel the justice system covers just too broad a palate here and might have been better served by creating a completely new definition of sexual crime or crimes. Equally serious in their own right but not called “rape” so as to clear the muddied waters a little.

[MWHIBBIES]

This was first rumoured in November last year, after his first victim. Since then he is alleged to have raped at least 1 more, as recently as Monday.

He has been charged and bailed, so he's in the 1.4% of rape cases where the accused is actually charged, so a judge thinks there is enough to charge him. I think he has correctly been named and it may just protect someone else.

[pollution]

This would never remain secret, it's too high profile. And 4 accusations is a lot. He is most likely guilty.



Like Salmond ??

Let the jury decide before we charge.

[pollution]

Dreadful logic if that’s why they do it imo.


I agree.

Former PM Heath and others have been trapped in this net.

[MWHIBBIES]

Like Salmond ??

Let the jury decide before we charge.

He's already been charged.

Me giving my opinion based on what I've read (same as the jury will) doesn't make any difference.

[FilipinoHibs]

A lot of young men overpaid and think they can do what they like. Think they are untouchable. Common behaviour across all highly paid sportsmen. A minority thank God.

[allmodcons]

This was first rumoured in November last year, after his first victim. Since then he is alleged to have raped at least 1 more, as recently as Monday.

He has been charged and bailed, so he's in the 1.4% of rape cases where the accused is actually charged, so a judge thinks there is enough to charge him. I think he has correctly been named and it may just protect someone else.


:agree: 100%.

I would add that conviction rates are an absolute joke. So bad in fact that they discourage victims (mostly women) from coming forward.

If convicted, I hope he goes down for a long time but, as a grossly overpaid footballer, there is no doubt he'll have hired the best Legal Team in Town to try and get him off the hook. Sadly, money talks in our legal system.

[MWHIBBIES]

Will remain in prison for another 4 months, until his trial in January.

Denied bail as he has been charged with raping a woman after being released on bail before.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Will remain in prison for another 4 months, until his trial in January.

Denied bail as he has been charged with raping a woman after being released on bail before.WTF? How can anyone be so brazen?

[Jdawg]

:agree: 100%.

I would add that conviction rates are an absolute joke. So bad in fact that they discourage victims (mostly women) from coming forward.

If convicted, I hope he goes down for a long time but, as a grossly overpaid footballer, there is no doubt he'll have hired the best Legal Team in Town to try and get him off the hook. Sadly, money talks in our legal system.

We dont live in the USA. In terms of the Scottish Bar, plenty top advocates work as Advocate Deputes.

[MWHIBBIES]

Charged today with 2 further counts of rape. That's 6 in total now with one further charge of sexual assault. Utter ****bag. Hope he rots in jail.

[Since90+2]

Charged today with 2 further counts of rape. That's 6 in total now with one further charge of sexual assault. Utter ****bag. Hope he rots in jail.

If he is found guilty then I agree with your sentiments. As of yet he's not had the right of a fair trial which will ultimately determine if he is guilty or not.

[MWHIBBIES]

If he is found guilty then I agree with your sentiments. As of yet he's not had the right of a fair trial which will ultimately determine if he is guilty or not.

In my opinion as someone who has been keeping up with this story, he is clearly guilty. Not that my opinion on it matters.

Chances of him being charged with 6 counts and being guilty of none of them are extremely slim. He is currently in jail after commiting further rapes after being bailed. So I think it's pretty obvious he is guilty. He's been in jail for months now.

[MrRobot]

In my opinion as someone who has been keeping up with this story, he is clearly guilty. Not that my opinion on it matters.

Chances of him being charged with 6 counts and being guilty of none of them are extremely slim. He is currently in jail after commiting further rapes after being bailed. So I think it's pretty obvious he is guilty. He's been in jail for months now.

What do you mean he’s committed more offences since being bailed, I’m pretty sure he’s been in jail since first being arrested has he not?

[MWHIBBIES]

What do you mean he’s committed more offences since being bailed, I’m pretty sure he’s been in jail since first being arrested has he not?

No, he was first arrested in November last year. Couldn't be named at the time. Was bailed and continued playing. Raped 2 others while on bail and was re-arrested. Been refused bail since and been jailed in the VP wing. Which apparently he was delighted about because he believed it to be the VIP wing (genuinely)

[Since90+2]

In my opinion as someone who has been keeping up with this story, he is clearly guilty. Not that my opinion on it matters.

Chances of him being charged with 6 counts and being guilty of none of them are extremely slim. He is currently in jail after commiting further rapes after being bailed. So I think it's pretty obvious he is guilty. He's been in jail for months now.

I agree however like any person in this country he has the right to a free and fair trial before being judged guilty.

[Since90+2]

No, he was first arrested in November last year. Couldn't be named at the time. Was bailed and continued playing. Raped 2 others while on bail and was re-arrested. Been refused bail since and been jailed in the VP wing. Which apparently he was delighted about because he believed it to be the VIP wing (genuinely)

For the sake of this site and yourself you should probably be careful to add allegedly before the word raped.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i didn't realise a 2nd guy has been charged along with mendy

Two men charged in connection with further allegations of serious sexual offences | The Crown Prosecution Service (cps.gov.uk) (https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/two-men-charged-connection-further-allegations-serious-sexual-offences)

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has authorised Cheshire Constabulary to charge two men in connection with additional allegations of serious sexual assault.
Benjamin Mendy, aged 27, has been charged with two additional counts of rape.
Louis Saha Matturie, aged 40, has been charged with two additional counts of rape and one count of sexual assault.

[MWHIBBIES]

I agree however like any person in this country he has the right to a free and fair trial before being judged guilty.Of course, hence why I've said my opinion doesn't matter.


For the sake of this site and yourself you should probably be careful to add allegedly before the word raped.

I've always wondered if someone has ever got into trouble for that, especially when the person has been charged with 6 counts of the crime in question. I don't think I have much to worry about.

If the admins request me to do so for the sake of the site, of course I will.

[jacomo]

:agree: 100%.

I would add that conviction rates are an absolute joke. So bad in fact that they discourage victims (mostly women) from coming forward.

If convicted, I hope he goes down for a long time but, as a grossly overpaid footballer, there is no doubt he'll have hired the best Legal Team in Town to try and get him off the hook. Sadly, money talks in our legal system.


I’m not sure this is true.

I have been a juror on a rape trial (English court) and went in fairly cynical but came out with renewed faith in the court system.

All the money in the world can still only buy you one defence barrister. And you are up against the Crown, whose job it is to prove the case against you beyond reasonable doubt.

The problem with many rape cases is that the issue boils down to consent and there are no other witnesses… it becomes a ‘he said, she said’ situation.

The judge will be very clear to a jury that if there is reasonable doubt, they cannot find the defendant guilty.

I am not sure what can be done to improve the conviction rate. Clearly there is a lot more that could be done to support victims and increase the number of prosecutions.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Two additional rape charges now. Mendy must be looking at a life sentence here if convicted. He's accused of being a serial rapist, a compulsive sex offender. A pattern of such behaviour would result in a very lengthy sentence.

[beensaidbefore]

Two additional rape charges now. Mendy must be looking at a life sentence here if convicted. He's accused of being a serial rapist, a compulsive sex offender. A pattern of such behaviour would result in a very lengthy sentence.

Then deport him to France once he gets out.

[Magpie]

Bring in the death penalty.

[Callum_62]

i didn't realise a 2nd guy has been charged along with mendy

Two men charged in connection with further allegations of serious sexual offences | The Crown Prosecution Service (cps.gov.uk) (https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/two-men-charged-connection-further-allegations-serious-sexual-offences)

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has authorised Cheshire Constabulary to charge two men in connection with additional allegations of serious sexual assault.
Benjamin Mendy, aged 27, has been charged with two additional counts of rape.
Louis Saha Matturie, aged 40, has been charged with two additional counts of rape and one count of sexual assault.That's not Louis Saha of Man Utd fame btw

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[cabbageandribs1875]

That's not Louis Saha of Man Utd fame btw

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i know he's not, no relation whatsoever

[Just_Jimmy]

Then deport him to France once he gets out.They will.

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[MWHIBBIES]

Another change of rape added.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/benjamin-mendy-manchester-city-rape-b1980679.html?utm_source=reddit.com

[Hibernia&Alba]

Another change of rape added.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/benjamin-mendy-manchester-city-rape-b1980679.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Obviously the guy is innocent until proven guilty, but all this sounds really grim. He is a predator.

[cabbageandribs1875]

bailed Benjamin Mendy: Rape-accused Man City footballer granted bail - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-59910794)

Manchester City footballer Benjamin Mendy, who has been charged with rape and sexual assault, has been released from prison on bail.


The 27-year-old is accused of attacking five women between October 2020 and August 2021.



Judge Patrick Thompson told Mr Mendy he must live at his home address, not contact complainants and surrender his passport.

[MWHIBBIES]

Interesting to see him finally bailed. Strange that 3 judges deemed him a risk to the public and a 4th didn't. Seems to be mainly something to do with the time allowed to be held without bail.

Don't think City will be rushing to have him back in the side.

[cabbageandribs1875]

yeah think it's because there's a good possibility he could actually go just short of a year waiting on trial

[Paul1642]

bailed Benjamin Mendy: Rape-accused Man City footballer granted bail - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-59910794)

Manchester City footballer Benjamin Mendy, who has been charged with rape and sexual assault, has been released from prison on bail.


The 27-year-old is accused of attacking five women between October 2020 and August 2021.



Judge Patrick Thompson told Mr Mendy he must live at his home address, not contact complainants and surrender his passport.

Not that I could see any football team letting him with a mile of their first team, but even if they did no overnight stays in hotels for long distance away days and no European trips by the sounds of the bail conditions. All hypothetical anyway as it would be a PR disaster to play him. Surprised city haven’t just released him. Would expect there will be a contact clause allowing termination for something like this.

[Stevie Reid]

Not that I could see any football team letting him with a mile of their first team, but even if they did no overnight stays in hotels for long distance away days and no European trips by the sounds of the bail conditions. All hypothetical anyway as it would be a PR disaster to play him. Surprised city haven’t just released him. Would expect there will be a contact clause allowing termination for something like this.

He sounds like a horrible, horrible ******* but I would suspect that sacking him without him being convicted of a crime would be a shaky move, legally.

Impossible to imagine that he won’t be convicted though. And as another poster has said, a bit concerning that he’s now been bailed when he’s clearly been deemed a danger to the public on numerous other occasions.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not that I could see any football team letting him with a mile of their first team, but even if they did no overnight stays in hotels for long distance away days and no European trips by the sounds of the bail conditions. All hypothetical anyway as it would be a PR disaster to play him. Surprised city haven’t just released him. Would expect there will be a contact clause allowing termination for something like this.

They can't release him till after he is found guilty. He'll be lucky to be out before 40 so no chance he ever plays football again.

[Steven79]

Not that I could see any football team letting him with a mile of their first team, but even if they did no overnight stays in hotels for long distance away days and no European trips by the sounds of the bail conditions. All hypothetical anyway as it would be a PR disaster to play him. Surprised city haven’t just released him. Would expect there will be a contact clause allowing termination for something like this.They can't start the process to sacking him till he's been found guilty.

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[hibbysam]

Didn’t I read that he done a few of his alleged crimes while on bail previously?

[MWHIBBIES]

Didn’t I read that he done a few of his alleged crimes while on bail previously?

Yes. I believe 2 of his rape accusations were commited while on bail.

[MWHIBBIES]

Another charge added, this time attempted rape. 9 charges against 6 women. Guy is vermin.

[JamesHFC]

Another charge added, this time attempted rape. 9 charges against 6 women. Guy is vermin.

How he is still walking the streets haunts me.

[Hibee87]

How he is still walking the streets haunts me.

Thought he was still in jail waiting trial?

[JamesHFC]

Thought he was still in jail waiting trial?

They let him out recently, he’s on a tag.

[Since90+2]

Are city still paying him?