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Chuck Rhoades
24-08-2021, 09:59 PM
The issue around staff shortages at firms appears to be growing. What is causing this?
Covid?
Brexit?
Something else?
Combination?
I could understand a sector such as hospitality struggling as employees found jobs during lockdown in other sectors and have decided not to return, but it appears to be across a number of sectors - hospitality, travel and tourism, logistics / distribution, manufacturing, retail and I know first hand it’s impacting financial services.
Some firms offering equivalent of a signing on fee to attract applicants. Others stretching salaries to the top end of their range.
What’s the driver(s)?
Radium
24-08-2021, 10:18 PM
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/17/number-of-eu-citizens-seeking-work-in-uk-falls-36-since-brexit-study-shows
1.3 million workers leaving the UK will have had some impact …
… and the overseas workers that are coming in are not taking low paid jobs.
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LaMotta
24-08-2021, 10:24 PM
The issue around staff shortages at firms appears to be growing. What is causing this?
Covid?
Brexit?
Something else?
Combination?
I could understand a sector such as hospitality struggling as employees found jobs during lockdown in other sectors and have decided not to return, but it appears to be across a number of sectors - hospitality, travel and tourism, logistics / distribution, manufacturing, retail and I know first hand it’s impacting financial services.
Some firms offering equivalent of a signing on fee to attract applicants. Others stretching salaries to the top end of their range.
What’s the driver(s)?
The reason is Brexit, no doubt. The BBC and others in media trying their hardest to blame the pingdemic etc - that's not true.
Of course Covid hasn't helped but make no mistake about it Brexit is the main driver - there just aren't enough people because so many returned to the EU and no one is coming back. Other EU countries not facing the same problems UK is back that up. Why would a hard working, young, enthusiastic EU citizen come to the UK now when it is so much easier to go work in Germany or France?
Lack of lorry drivers is obv a huge problem - as you say the big supermarkets giving signing on fees and higher wages to entice drivers - this doesn't solve the problem overall though, it just shifts drivers from one sector to another. So wholesale drivers ( delivering eg beer to pubs) moving over to work for supermarkets. Result - beer sitting in warehouses undelivered. Plus we all get to pay more for our groceries to help pay the supermarket drivers!
Brexit madness. If only some people had pointed out it wasn't that great an idea.:hmmm:
Antifa Hibs
25-08-2021, 06:59 AM
The issue around staff shortages at firms appears to be growing. What is causing this?
Covid?
Brexit?
Something else?
Combination?
I could understand a sector such as hospitality struggling as employees found jobs during lockdown in other sectors and have decided not to return, but it appears to be across a number of sectors - hospitality, travel and tourism, logistics / distribution, manufacturing, retail and I know first hand it’s impacting financial services.
Some firms offering equivalent of a signing on fee to attract applicants. Others stretching salaries to the top end of their range.
What’s the driver(s)?
Brexit, wages and conditions. Alot of the jobs the Central and Eastern European lads and lassies would have filled. We now no longer have that luxury and it appears "locals" don't really fancy the graft, daft start and finish times and working weekends for £8.91 an hour. And quite right too. Firms no longer have the luxury of a massive pool of cheap labour to exploit and its donald ducking them.
Billy Whizz
25-08-2021, 08:25 AM
Students as well, until they are all back at Uni
Ozyhibby
25-08-2021, 08:28 AM
Brexit, wages and conditions. Alot of the jobs the Central and Eastern European lads and lassies would have filled. We now no longer have that luxury and it appears "locals" don't really fancy the graft, daft start and finish times and working weekends for £8.91 an hour. And quite right too. Firms no longer have the luxury of a massive pool of cheap labour to exploit and its donald ducking them.
It will be good to see wages rise across the board.
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LaMotta
25-08-2021, 08:59 AM
Brexit, wages and conditions. Alot of the jobs the Central and Eastern European lads and lassies would have filled. We now no longer have that luxury and it appears "locals" don't really fancy the graft, daft start and finish times and working weekends for £8.91 an hour. And quite right too. Firms no longer have the luxury of a massive pool of cheap labour to exploit and its donald ducking them.
It will be good to see wages rise across the board.
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It is good for people working in these jobs. It wont attract enough people to plug all the gaps though as Antifa points out people dont really fancy these jobs. And ultimately these wage increases get paid for by everyone else as the increased costs get passed to the consumer.
This is ok for me but it might not be ok for other families living on the breadline who will be paying more for their essentials every week. The increased cost of living effectively bringing wages down for the majority.
Benefits there certainly now, for example there will have to be improvements to the conditions and facilities available for HGV drivers.
Moulin Yarns
25-08-2021, 03:05 PM
https://news.stv.tv/scotland/great-british-steak-bake-off-greggs-facing-supply-shortage
Stake bakes are off the menu at Greggs
beensaidbefore
25-08-2021, 04:28 PM
It is good for people working in these jobs. It wont attract enough people to plug all the gaps though as Antifa points out people dont really fancy these jobs. And ultimately these wage increases get paid for by everyone else as the increased costs get passed to the consumer.
This is ok for me but it might not be ok for other families living on the breadline who will be paying more for their essentials every week. The increased cost of living effectively bringing wages down for the majority.
Benefits there certainly now, for example there will have to be improvements to the conditions and facilities available for HGV drivers.
Exactly. A small business forced to increase staff wages can only pass that cost on to the customers.
One of the problems is we have a society where people can choose not to work, or make enough excuses so they don't have to. Why would you go work for a few shifts for 250 a week when you can claim almost that in benefits and have your rent paid too!
Proper training schemes to give people skills so that they are employable would also be a start.
Itsnoteasy
28-08-2021, 08:56 PM
https://news.stv.tv/scotland/great-british-steak-bake-off-greggs-facing-supply-shortage
Stake bakes are off the menu at Greggs
Guess the vampires are happy with that.
stoneyburn hibs
28-08-2021, 09:29 PM
Guess the vampires are happy with that.
😁
It's gonnae get a wee bit mental in the coming months
Glory Lurker
28-08-2021, 11:00 PM
Folk used furlough to reconsider their job choices. Folk in hospitality, which was dead at the time, opted for more-sociable hours in retail. Can't blame them.
Plugging a gap in hard hours where Brits fear to tread? Sounds like a job for UK Economy Supporting European!!!
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