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K-Zazu
16-08-2021, 09:30 PM
Talk of a new bid 150 million

Nicho87
16-08-2021, 09:34 PM
Are we offering hallberg as a sweetener

Hibernia&Alba
16-08-2021, 09:40 PM
The fact he was nowhere to be seen at the Spurs v Man City game has to be significant. He wants to go to City, and, if Spurs hold on to him, his transfer value will decrease as his contract runs down. If they are going to sell, this is the time to get the most for him. I would imagine a 150 million bid would do the trick and suits both clubs.

SteveHFC
16-08-2021, 09:42 PM
Talk of a new bid 150 million

Man City are a disgrace.

SlickShoes
16-08-2021, 09:57 PM
Pep last season when things weren’t going well saying he can’t spend money like Man U and Liverpool without a hint of irony. Tit.

madhatter
16-08-2021, 10:14 PM
Man City are a disgrace.

Can't wait until the EPL blows up as it inevitably will. Ridiculous sums of money being spent. These clubs should be making £100m donations to the NHS or other community initiatives. Rich persons plaything seems to be where football is going. If it keeps going I'd be happy for the sport to die tbh. It's disgusting.

SHODAN
16-08-2021, 10:16 PM
Time for a transfer and salary cap. Zero interest in the EPL and the rest of elite football given this and the rampant immorality of Barca/Madrid et al.

Carheenlea
16-08-2021, 10:16 PM
Can't wait until the EPL blows up as it inevitably will. Ridiculous sums of money being spent. These clubs should be making £100m donations to the NHS or other community initiatives. Rich persons plaything seems to be where football is going. If it keeps going I'd be happy for the sport to die tbh. It's disgusting.

I’d miss Hibs but wouldn’t miss football. Have never been more disinterested in the sport than I am now (Hibs excepted).

1875Sean
16-08-2021, 10:38 PM
150 million is mental for Kane, surely for that money you would rather go for Haaland

NORTHERNHIBBY
16-08-2021, 11:27 PM
City to be gazumped by Hearts now that it is serious money.

Haymaker
17-08-2021, 01:21 AM
150 million is mental for Kane, surely for that money you would rather go for Haaland

Unless Haaland (via his agent) has indicated he doesn't want to move to England? Can only be the reason.

Haymaker
17-08-2021, 01:22 AM
Pep last season when things weren’t going well saying he can’t spend money like Man U and Liverpool without a hint of irony. Tit.

Cried that he couldn't afford to replace Aguero - a city legend - yet a few months later and bids $150m for Kane :faf:

GordonHFC
17-08-2021, 02:13 AM
Talk of a new bid 150 million

How.many divers do they need. How much is Tom Daley?

Magpie
17-08-2021, 02:13 AM
The fact he was nowhere to be seen at the Spurs v Man City game has to be significant. He wants to go to City, and, if Spurs hold on to him, his transfer value will decrease as his contract runs down. If they are going to sell, this is the time to get the most for him. I would imagine a 150 million bid would do the trick and suits both clubs.

I really can’t see Levy selling him to a PL rival unless it’s crazy money, I still think £150m won’t be enough for him. I think we will see Kane back in the squad this week and he will be a Spurs player at the end of the window.

MWHIBBIES
17-08-2021, 04:09 AM
Can't wait until the EPL blows up as it inevitably will. Ridiculous sums of money being spent. These clubs should be making £100m donations to the NHS or other community initiatives. Rich persons plaything seems to be where football is going. If it keeps going I'd be happy for the sport to die tbh. It's disgusting.
Football clubs and players done more than enough for the NHS during lock downs. It isn't their responsibility short of paying tax.

MWHIBBIES
17-08-2021, 04:10 AM
150 million is mental for Kane, surely for that money you would rather go for Haaland

Dortmund said he isn't moving this summer and that's it.

Iain G
17-08-2021, 05:14 AM
150 million is mental for Kane, surely for that money you would rather go for Haaland

Both good cover until Doidge is fit again so either be would work for me...

Since452
17-08-2021, 05:15 AM
Talk of a new bid 150 million

Ron the Con eh

Since452
17-08-2021, 05:18 AM
Cried that he couldn't afford to replace Aguero - a city legend - yet a few months later and bids $150m for Kane :faf:

250 million on two players. It's not even funny. It's a total disgrace.

madhatter
17-08-2021, 05:58 AM
Football clubs and players done more than enough for the NHS during lock downs. It isn't their responsibility short of paying tax.

They'll never do enough. Just like everyone else.

Loopholes and financial advisers will likely give many EPL players ample wiggle room on tax.

They are vastly overpaid and they'll know it deep down. Vast majority enjoy a lavish lifestyle though.

Pretty much world wide deficit off the chart, especially with Covid, vaccines and furlough but a football club has done enough within their community when it can afford to potentially spend £250m in 1 transfer window. Owners have a 1/2 billion dollar yacht as well. Come off it. Can't wait for football to collapse. Working class people won't be able to attend games shortly. Rich have perverted the sport with greed.

MWHIBBIES
17-08-2021, 06:08 AM
They'll never do enough. Just like everyone else.

Loopholes and financial advisers will likely give many EPL players ample wiggle room on tax.

They are vastly overpaid and they'll know it deep down. Vast majority enjoy a lavish lifestyle though.

Pretty much world wide deficit off the chart, especially with Covid, vaccines and furlough but a football club has done enough within their community when it can afford to potentially spend £250m in 1 transfer window. Owners have a 1/2 billion dollar yacht as well. Come off it. Can't wait for football to collapse. Working class people won't be able to attend games shortly. Rich have perverted the sport with greed.

They are overpaid compared to the average person. But there are so few players at that level, of course they are paid well. It's a 1% of the 1% job.

Don't let football transfers distract you from proper issues, that's what the government etc want. Football is well down the list of problems, and it's really not at all related to the NHS.

Marcus Rashford has certainly done enough.

The Modfather
17-08-2021, 06:19 AM
Can't wait until the EPL blows up as it inevitably will. Ridiculous sums of money being spent. These clubs should be making £100m donations to the NHS or other community initiatives. Rich persons plaything seems to be where football is going. If it keeps going I'd be happy for the sport to die tbh. It's disgusting.

While I’m in agreement with your general point, you could make the same argument about most things. Actors salaries, the hundreds of millions it costs to make Marvel films etc. Or closer to home, spending £1m on big screens instead of giving £1m to local charities.

Football does need regulated though. It’s a shame financial fair play turned out to be the half hearted attempt Wenger predicted.

jgl07
17-08-2021, 04:40 PM
I really can’t see Levy selling him to a PL rival unless it’s crazy money, I still think £150m won’t be enough for him. I think we will see Kane back in the squad this week and he will be a Spurs player at the end of the window.
There isn’t a hope in hell of City paying anywhere near £150 million for Kane or anyone else. Kane is 28 and will have little sell-on value after three years or so. I suspect that they may bid up to €120 million.

City have raised quite a bit of money selling fringe players and could raise a lot more if Bernardo and maybe Laporte move. City picked a substantial sum (£10-20 million) in sell on fees from United for Jayden Sancho’s move from Dortmund.

The money in the EPL and the ECL makes such fees perfectly affordable spread over the period of the contract. Those who argue otherwise have no idea.

SteveHFC
17-08-2021, 04:42 PM
250 million on two players. It's not even funny. It's a total disgrace.

£250M on 2 players who are good but not that good. :agree:

AugustaHibs
17-08-2021, 04:47 PM
£250M on 2 players who are good but not that good. :agree:

Kane isn’t ‘that good’? He’s top 3 strikers in the world

easty
17-08-2021, 04:49 PM
£250M on 2 players who are good but not that good. :agree:

Harry Kane is up there with the best strikers in EPL history, and probably up there with Lewandowski and Haaland as the best strikers in football just now.

cameronw-hfc
17-08-2021, 04:57 PM
Shame as well. I'd love to say they signed an overrated Grealish and crap Kane, but Grealish is incredible, and Kane is top 3/4 strikers on the planet. Ruining football

Tommy75
17-08-2021, 06:55 PM
Shame as well. I'd love to say they signed an overrated Grealish and crap Kane, but Grealish is incredible, and Kane is top 3/4 strikers on the planet. Ruining football

Yep, still can't believe how little game time Grealish got at the Euros.

SHODAN
17-08-2021, 07:03 PM
Football clubs and players done more than enough for the NHS during lock downs. It isn't their responsibility short of paying tax.

The only people who pay the amount of tax they are legally required to is low and middle earners such as you or I. It's an optional extra for the rich.

Since452
17-08-2021, 07:11 PM
Shame as well. I'd love to say they signed an overrated Grealish and crap Kane, but Grealish is incredible, and Kane is top 3/4 strikers on the planet. Ruining football

I just don't see it with Grealish. Then again I'm in the minority.

cameronw-hfc
17-08-2021, 07:22 PM
I just don't see it with Grealish. Then again I'm in the minority.

I had a Brummie villa fan uncle that lived round the corner so naturally ended up adopting them as I was forever watching with him. I promise he's worth all the hype, as much as it pains me to say. Context as to how good he is, he was out Injured whilst we were struggling in the champ, bottom half. Came back from injury, was appointed captain in his first game back and took the club to the playoffs in a 10 game unbeaten streak. Punched in the head in a derby, scored the winner in that game later on. I understand the amount of people doubting him as he's only done it in the Prem for 2 seasons, but any Villa fan would tell you it's inevitable. Villa fans have been telling people he's world class for 4/5 years now, it's only just being noticed.

Since452
17-08-2021, 07:27 PM
I had a Brummie villa fan uncle that lived round the corner so naturally ended up adopting them as I was forever watching with him. I promise he's worth all the hype, as much as it pains me to say. Context as to how good he is, he was out Injured whilst we were struggling in the champ, bottom half. Came back from injury, was appointed captain in his first game back and took the club to the playoffs in a 10 game unbeaten streak. Punched in the head in a derby, scored the winner in that game later on. I understand the amount of people doubting him as he's only done it in the Prem for 2 seasons, but any Villa fan would tell you it's inevitable. Villa fans have been telling people he's world class for 4/5 years now, it's only just being noticed.

Fair enough mate. People who watch him more than me are better to judge.

EI255
17-08-2021, 08:29 PM
Man City are a disgrace.100%

Rubbish football that

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Edinburgh Green
17-08-2021, 08:33 PM
Man City are a disgrace.

Why?

OstKurve Hibs
18-08-2021, 05:08 AM
Harry Kane is up there with the best strikers in EPL history, and probably up there with Lewandowski and Haaland as the best strikers in football just now.

Harry kane couldnt lace either of those 2 players boots

MWHIBBIES
18-08-2021, 07:16 AM
Harry kane couldnt lace either of those 2 players boots

Simply not true. Look past him being English, the guy is top quality.

ScottB
18-08-2021, 07:29 AM
I don’t see it myself, he’s well on the way to being as injury prone as Aguero, who they let leave for free.

I’d rather keep my powder dry and go after Haaland next summer for around half the price.

southern hibby
18-08-2021, 08:18 AM
I’d miss Hibs but wouldn’t miss football. Have never been more disinterested in the sport than I am now (Hibs excepted).

100% this. It’s exactly how I feel too.

GGTTH

Since90+2
18-08-2021, 08:23 AM
If City sign Kane they'll probably win the league, if they don't then I reckon Chelsea will win it.

MWHIBBIES
18-08-2021, 08:23 AM
I don’t see it myself, he’s well on the way to being as injury prone as Aguero, who they let leave for free.

I’d rather keep my powder dry and go after Haaland next summer for around half the price.

If he's as good as Aguero was, City will be delighted. They didn't let him leave. He wanted to leave.

They obviously know haaland isn't interested in them. Do you watch Haaland or just basing it on Wikipedia? Because Kane is as good a player.

Since90+2
18-08-2021, 08:25 AM
If he's as good as Aguero was, City will be delighted. They didn't let him leave. He wanted to leave.

They obviously know haaland isn't interested in them. Do you watch Haaland or just basing it on Wikipedia? Because Kane is as good a player.

He might be as good a player at the moment but he's 28 and Haaland is only 21. I don't think there's a club in the world who would rather sign Kane over Haaland if they had the choice of either.

MWHIBBIES
18-08-2021, 08:50 AM
He might be as good a player at the moment but he's 28 and Haaland is only 21. I don't think there's a club in the world who would rather sign Kane over Haaland if they had the choice of either.

I agree. But they don't have that choice. It's Kane or Jesus all season. Haaland isn't moving this summer.

Kane also doesn't rely on pace very much, so his game is less likely to decline as he slows down a bit. Could have 5 World class years in him..

mcohibs
18-08-2021, 09:10 AM
I’d rather keep my powder dry and go after Haaland next summer for around half the price.

I tend to agree with this. City look like the only EPL club that Kane will sign for if he is to leave, so it's not as if City will be losing him to a rival if they don't buy him this season.

ScottB
18-08-2021, 10:00 AM
If he's as good as Aguero was, City will be delighted. They didn't let him leave. He wanted to leave.

They obviously know haaland isn't interested in them. Do you watch Haaland or just basing it on Wikipedia? Because Kane is as good a player.

BBC Euroleagues show reckoned Haaland would favour City after Madrid when he moves, and given Madrid are reportedly going all in on Mbappe, there’s a fair chance.

He also has a release clause next summer around half of what Kane costs now, much younger. City won the title and nearly the Champions League with no striker last season, not sure they need to pump out £150 million odd on Kane, who is likely very much at the peak of his powers and fitness. Doesn’t seem a good investment, nor does it really fit with the sort of signings City have made in recent years.

I’m not saying Kane isn’t good, objectively he is, but the price is bonkers, even in the context of the current market.

Hibernia&Alba
18-08-2021, 10:01 AM
There isn’t a hope in hell of City paying anywhere near £150 million for Kane or anyone else. Kane is 28 and will have little sell-on value after three years or so. I suspect that they may bid up to €120 million.

City have raised quite a bit of money selling fringe players and could raise a lot more if Bernardo and maybe Laporte move. City picked a substantial sum (£10-20 million) in sell on fees from United for Jayden Sancho’s move from Dortmund.

The money in the EPL and the ECL makes such fees perfectly affordable spread over the period of the contract. Those who argue otherwise have no idea.

But City don't need to worry about sell on value, given their wealth. If Kane could prove the difference in winning them the Champions League, they would pay 150 million immediately. Like Chelsea before them, and like PSG, they want to win the Champions League and are prepared to spend whatever is required to achieve it. The FFP rules are just meaningless now, as clubs can find a way around it; City have done so for at least ten years.

Steven79
18-08-2021, 10:04 AM
But City don't need to worry about sell on value, given their wealth. If Kane could prove the difference in winning them the Champions League, they would pay 150 million immediately. Like Chelsea before them, and like PSG, they want to win the Champions League and are prepared to spend whatever is required to achieve it. The FFP rules are just meaningless now, as clubs can find a way around it; City have done so for at least ten years.

Man City are like playing Football Manager on cheat mode where you give yourself unlimited cash then proclaim to have won titles with a diddy club.

Every trophy win is hollow as deep down they know that it's been bought.

Just_Jimmy
18-08-2021, 10:06 AM
BBC Euroleagues show reckoned Haaland would favour City after Madrid when he moves, and given Madrid are reportedly going all in on Mbappe, there’s a fair chance.

He also has a release clause next summer around half of what Kane costs now, much younger. City won the title and nearly the Champions League with no striker last season, not sure they need to pump out £150 million odd on Kane, who is likely very much at the peak of his powers and fitness. Doesn’t seem a good investment, nor does it really fit with the sort of signings City have made in recent years.

I’m not saying Kane isn’t good, objectively he is, but the price is bonkers, even in the context of the current market.if city want Kane now they can buy him. If they get him and still want Haaland next year they'll buy him too. they have money on a level compared to no one bar PSG.

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jacomo
18-08-2021, 08:46 PM
But City don't need to worry about sell on value, given their wealth. If Kane could prove the difference in winning them the Champions League, they would pay 150 million immediately. Like Chelsea before them, and like PSG, they want to win the Champions League and are prepared to spend whatever is required to achieve it. The FFP rules are just meaningless now, as clubs can find a way around it; City have done so for at least ten years.


They should have won the champions league a few months ago. A totally inexplicable team selection by Guardiola put pay to that.

WhileTheChief..
18-08-2021, 08:49 PM
I just don't see it with Grealish. Then again I'm in the minority.

Same here, average at best.

bigwheel
18-08-2021, 09:01 PM
Same here, average at best.

You don’t think Pep knows footballers ?? He’s clearly gone in big on him

WhileTheChief..
18-08-2021, 09:08 PM
All the top managers get at least one signing wrong :wink:

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 06:09 AM
Same here, average at best.
Sand dancer pretty boy

Boot him up in the air wouldnae come within 10 feet of ye

Did I just say that out loud? :greengrin

TrinityHibs
19-08-2021, 08:23 AM
Same here, average at best.

Genuinely surprised that you think that SJM is less than average at best as Grealish was clearly a better player than him last year

MWHIBBIES
19-08-2021, 09:01 AM
Genuinely surprised that you think that SJM is less than average at best as Grealish was clearly a better player than him last year

Can't believe anyone think that Grealish on his best day is average. Amazing the anti English bias. Maybe they overrate their players, but some of the stuff on here is way too far the other way. He is clearly a quality footballer.

blackpoolhibs
19-08-2021, 09:16 AM
Listening to the radio yesterday, they were saying Halland has a release clause of £73m that comes into effect next season.

stantonhibby
19-08-2021, 09:20 AM
Listening to the radio yesterday, they were saying Halland has a release clause of £73m that comes into effect next season.

He'll be able to take his pick of loads of clubs then. In todays market that's a bargain.

Since452
19-08-2021, 09:23 AM
Listening to the radio yesterday, they were saying Halland has a release clause of £73m that comes into effect next season.


Cue Dave Cormack offering £730k to activate it

blackpoolhibs
19-08-2021, 09:25 AM
Cue Dave Cormack offering £730k to activate it

😂

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 09:30 AM
Can't believe anyone think that Grealish on his best day is average. Amazing the anti English bias. Maybe they overrate their players, but some of the stuff on here is way too far the other way. He is clearly a quality footballer.

Not convinced by his final product and I don’t think Southgate is ether tbh

Flatters to deceive

Aston Villa 32 goals 41 assists in 213 appearances

Will be interesting to see how he fits in at Citee

Would not be 100m of my money :greengrin

Renfrew_Hibby
19-08-2021, 09:39 AM
Sand dancer pretty boy

Boot him up in the air wouldnae come within 10 feet of ye

Did I just say that out loud? :greengrin

He consistently the most fouled player in the league, always gets up and goes again, never hides and relishes taking players on. So I would say your assessment is wide of the mark.

For me hes an old fashioned 'gallus' player who just goes out and plays as if he was still a kid on the playground.
Sure he may look like a fanny but he's a joy to watch and reminds me why we really love football in a world of tactics, systems and game management.

WhileTheChief..
19-08-2021, 09:40 AM
I just don't rate the player, nothing to do with SJM or him being English. Weird take on it guys.

Surprised it bothers you so much. There must have been players in the past that some folk rated that you didn't?

Well, this is just the same but in reverse!

Since452
19-08-2021, 09:46 AM
I just don't rate the player, nothing to do with SJM or him being English. Weird take on it guys.

Surprised it bothers you so much. There must have been players in the past that some folk rated that you didn't?

Well, this is just the same but in reverse!

I'm in the same boat as you. If Pep, pundits and the majority of normal fans think he's brilliant then got to accept that i'm in the minority and am probably wrong but I just don't see it with Grealish. Watched him in the Euros and wasn't impressed, watched his Man City debut and wasn't impressed. Not saying he isnt a good player but to my eyes he's overrated. Football is all about opinions though!

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 10:03 AM
He consistently the most fouled player in the league, always gets up and goes again, never hides and relishes taking players on. So I would say your assessment is wide of the mark.

For me hes an old fashioned 'gallus' player who just goes out and plays as if he was still a kid on the playground.
Sure he may look like a fanny but he's a joy to watch and reminds me why we really love football in a world of tactics, systems and game management.
Agree with all of that

I have watched him closely and yes he does bounce back up looking for more Boylesque but not convinced by his end product see my post #59

I would have SJM first pick in that midfield every time at Villa

Best of luck to the guy I hope he does well

Just not for me especially at that sort of dough

Scouse Hibee
19-08-2021, 01:18 PM
Grealish being the most fouled player in the league is trotted out every time someone questions his worth. How many points do you get for a foul these days!

bigwheel
19-08-2021, 01:59 PM
I'm in the same boat as you. If Pep, pundits and the majority of normal fans think he's brilliant then got to accept that i'm in the minority and am probably wrong but I just don't see it with Grealish. Watched him in the Euros and wasn't impressed, watched his Man City debut and wasn't impressed. Not saying he isnt a good player but to my eyes he's overrated. Football is all about opinions though!

I think it’s safe to respect Pep and his recruitment teams view on Grealish will be much more insightful than us bods on a football all forum …..

It’s fine for people to not rate him, but let’s at least agree Pep will be much more right than us

MWHIBBIES
19-08-2021, 02:34 PM
Not convinced by his final product and I don’t think Southgate is ether tbh

Flatters to deceive

Aston Villa 32 goals 41 assists in 213 appearances

Will be interesting to see how he fits in at Citee

Would not be 100m of my money :greengrin

Gareth Southgate or Pep? Really tough choice of who to go with there.

So a goal contribution every 3 games, many of which were in awful teams when he was a kid? Brilliant record.

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 05:19 PM
Gareth Southgate or Pep? Really tough choice of who to go with there.

So a goal contribution every 3 games, many of which were in awful teams when he was a kid? Brilliant record.
Sorry but I just don’t get it ?

Fair do’s to the guy he has got his dream move and best of luck to him

Struggling really to think of any games where he really hurt teams and could be said to have single handedly won games on his own

No doubt Villa fans will tell me different

I thought he was poor at the Euros but he had other things on his mind

Career to date he is running at goals approx 14% assists approx 19% to games played

All I am saying is I would like to see more of an end product

More goals and more assists

There is no doubt he is a good player just no convinced he is worth 100m that’s all :greengrin

MWHIBBIES
19-08-2021, 05:27 PM
Sorry but I just don’t get it ?

Fair do’s to the guy he has got his dream move and best of luck to him

Struggling really to think of any games where he really hurt teams and could be said to have single handedly won games on his own

No doubt Villa fans will tell me different

I thought he was poor at the Euros but he had other things on his mind

Career to date he is running at goals approx 14% assists approx 19% to games played

All I am saying is I would like to see more of an end product

More goals and more assists

There is no doubt he is a good player just no convinced he is worth 100m that’s all :greengrin

He isn't the Sterling/Mahrez replacement, he is the David Silva replacement. Silva wasn't a big goalscorer either. Again, his goalscoring and assisting is very good when you actually look at it. Its an argument for him, not against him. A goal or assist every 3 games in a villa side that got relegated, was in the championship, then just avoided relegation is exceptional really.

Played a massive part in many, many games.

CmoantheHibs
19-08-2021, 05:31 PM
Grealish being the most fouled player in the league is trotted out every time someone questions his worth. How many points do you get for a foul these days!
Directly none but you increase your chances of scoring by getting more penalties or fouls around the oppositions box.

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 05:56 PM
He isn't the Sterling/Mahrez replacement, he is the David Silva replacement. Silva wasn't a big goalscorer either. Again, his goalscoring and assisting is very good when you actually look at it. Its an argument for him, not against him. A goal or assist every 3 games in a villa side that got relegated, was in the championship, then just avoided relegation is exceptional really.

Played a massive part in many, many games.

I was thinking exactly that he is no where near as good as Silva or De Bruyne

If he keeps throwing himself to the ground he will earn loads of fouls outside the opposition box

Big gamble by Pep I hope it pays off

B.H.F.C
19-08-2021, 06:13 PM
I just don't rate the player, nothing to do with SJM or him being English. Weird take on it guys.

Surprised it bothers you so much. There must have been players in the past that some folk rated that you didn't?

Well, this is just the same but in reverse!

I wouldn’t say Grealish is average, ability wise. But he’s had a pretty average career for a £100m player.

MWHIBBIES
19-08-2021, 06:29 PM
I was thinking exactly that he is no where near as good as Silva or De Bruyne

If he keeps throwing himself to the ground he will earn loads of fouls outside the opposition box

Big gamble by Pep I hope it pays offI'm nowhere near those 2, Grealish certainly is. Not as good, maybe never will be, but nowhere near is rubbish.

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 06:38 PM
I'm nowhere near those 2, Grealish certainly is. Not as good, maybe never will be, but nowhere near is rubbish.
Happy with not as good never will be :greengrin

Do you think Grealish is worth 100m ?

Go on give us a laugh

MWHIBBIES
19-08-2021, 06:54 PM
Happy with not as good never will be :greengrin

Do you think Grealish is worth 100m ?

Go on give us a laugh
Doesn't really matter what I think.. All things considered, length of contract, lack of available players in his position, home grown, in the current market that's 100 million.

HoboHarry
19-08-2021, 07:04 PM
Happy with not as good never will be :greengrin

Do you think Grealish is worth 100m ?

Go on give us a laugh
Manchester City thought he was. As ever, he is worth whatever someone will pay for him.

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 07:27 PM
Manchester City thought he was. As ever, he is worth whatever someone will pay for him.
Same as for anything but not my dough 😃

BILLYHIBS
19-08-2021, 07:37 PM
Doesn't really matter what I think.. All things considered, length of contract, lack of available players in his position, home grown, in the current market that's 100 million.
Must be cheaper and better alternatives out there doesn’t have to be home grown either

It’s done and dusted now anyway

Money talks

Cudda had SJM 50m to boost our coffers or the guys ahead of him in the England set up

BILLYHIBS
22-08-2021, 12:02 PM
Harry Kane on bench for Tottenham

Magpie
22-08-2021, 12:27 PM
Harry Kane on bench for Tottenham

Will probably start for them on Thursday. He was never going to leave unless it was upwards of £150m.

Magpie
22-08-2021, 04:04 PM
Cristiano Ronaldo requested not to start tonight according to reports. Apparently he would like a move away. Anyone think City will see him as an alternative to Kane?

Itsnoteasy
22-08-2021, 04:45 PM
Yep, still can't believe how little game time Grealish got at the Euros.

He's that good that he bottled it to take a penalty.

Magpie
25-08-2021, 11:48 AM
Harry Kane confirms on Twitter he will be staying at Spurs.

Scouse Hibee
25-08-2021, 12:25 PM
He's that good that he bottled it to take a penalty.

No he never.

EdinburghHibern
25-08-2021, 12:40 PM
Harry Kane confirms on Twitter he will be staying at Spurs.

For me,this whole saga proves that Sky Sports is fake news and will create stories to drive up interest in all their platforms. Skybet Talksport and the EPL coverage.

They have created a storyline here along the lines of a Netflix entertainment show with an imaginary story that was never going to happen. Shocking coverage.

Magpie
25-08-2021, 12:44 PM
For me,this whole saga proves that Sky Sports is fake news and will create stories to drive up interest in all their platforms. Skybet Talksport and the EPL.

They have created a storyline here along the lines of a Netflix entertainment show.

I agree. It came across as though they really wanted Kane to make the move. The reality was that Spurs were never going to sell him for less than his value to the club and rightly so, he is contracted to another three years at the club so the ball was firmly in their court on this. I didn’t expect City to pay upwards of £150m after signing Grealish for £100m.

Be interesting to see if City go for Ronaldo now though.

Andy74
25-08-2021, 12:47 PM
I agree. It came across as though they really wanted Kane to make the move. The reality was that Spurs were never going to sell him for less than his value to the club and rightly so, he is contracted to another three years at the club so the ball was firmly in their court on this. I didn’t expect City to pay upwards of £150m after signing Grealish for £100m.

Be interesting to see if City go for Ronaldo now though.

The reality possibly was that it was going to be difficult to buy him but does that make it a fake story? Did Kane ask to leave? Seems like he did.

Magpie
25-08-2021, 12:49 PM
The reality possibly was that it was going to be difficult to buy him but does that make it a fake story? Did Kane ask to leave? Seems like he did.

Don’t necessarily think it was a fake story, there was definitely interest. I just feel as though Sky Sports particularly were acting as though it’s a done deal and they wanted the move to happen.

jacomo
25-08-2021, 12:50 PM
I wouldn’t say Grealish is average, ability wise. But he’s had a pretty average career for a £100m player.


Really? He got his own club back into the EPL and become a full England international.

Not bad really. I’ll never criticise a player for staying loyal to their club, even if this means they have less chance of winning major trophies. Would be amazing had Grealish stayed at Villa his entire career.

jacomo
25-08-2021, 12:51 PM
Don’t necessarily think it was a fake story, there was definitely interest. I just feel as though Sky Sports particularly were acting as though it’s a done deal and they wanted the move to happen.


Harry Kane himself said he wanted to leave Spurs. Hardly fake news.

Magpie
25-08-2021, 12:52 PM
Harry Kane himself said he wanted to leave Spurs. Hardly fake news.

I don’t think he said those words precisely but I’m not denying that he wanted to go. I just agree that Sky Sports over exaggerated the whole thing and acted as though Spurs were in the wrong for not letting him go.

Anyway, he’s staying so this saga can wait another year.

calumhibee1
25-08-2021, 01:07 PM
Ronaldo to city then..

Dashing Bob S
25-08-2021, 01:11 PM
Paul maybe a bit past it now.

jacomo
25-08-2021, 01:17 PM
I don’t think he said those words precisely but I’m not denying that he wanted to go. I just agree that Sky Sports over exaggerated the whole thing and acted as though Spurs were in the wrong for not letting him go.

Anyway, he’s staying so this saga can wait another year.


Yes fair enough. The media narrative seems to be that the best players have a divine right to move to the richest clubs so they ‘can win things’.

In recent seasons Kane has played in both a Champions League final and a Euros championships final. It’s ridiculous to say that being at Spurs has somehow constrained his ambition… it’s just that, ultimately, he and his team haven’t quite been good enough to lift the trophy.

MWHIBBIES
25-08-2021, 02:03 PM
Fair play to the guy honestly. He'll finish his career spurs greatest player, but also a good chance he finishes it with no silverware.

EdinburghHibern
25-08-2021, 02:17 PM
Harry Kane himself said he wanted to leave Spurs. Hardly fake news.

Where exactly has he said that?

Seems to me Sky Sports have said it for him using an assumption.

EdinburghHibern
25-08-2021, 02:17 PM
Fair play to the guy honestly. He'll finish his career spurs greatest player, but also a good chance he finishes it with no silverware.

Good on him!

BILLYHIBS
25-08-2021, 02:37 PM
Fair play to the guy honestly. He'll finish his career spurs greatest player, but also a good chance he finishes it with no silverware.

Jimmy Greaves MBE must be Spurs’ greatest ever player Shirley ?

Spurs’ highest ever goalscorer

266 goals from 379 appearances

First Division top scorer award for six seasons

Highest ever scorer in English football 357 First Division 382 all leagues

2 x FA Cups 1 x Charity Shield 1 x European Cup Winners Cup all with Spurs

44 goals for England from 57 appearances inc 6 hat-tricks

The guy was just lightning over 6 yards in the box



Harry Kane MBE

166 goals from 243 appearances

38 goals from 61 appearances for England

No trophies

blackpoolhibs
25-08-2021, 02:43 PM
Jimmy Greaves MBE must be Spurs’ greatest ever player Shirley ?

Spurs’ highest ever goalscorer

266 goals from 379 appearances

First Division top scorer award for six seasons

Highest ever scorer in English football 357 First Division 382 all leagues

2 x FA Cups 1 x Charity Shield 1 x European Cup Winners Cup all with Spurs

44 goals for England from 57 appearances inc 6 hat-tricks

The guy was just lightning over 6 yards in the box



Harry Kane MBE

166 goals from 243 appearances

38 goals from 61 appearances for England

No trophies

Didn't Jimmy get a world Cup winners medal year's later as one of the squad from 66. He was injured in the early rounds if I remember correctly?

BILLYHIBS
25-08-2021, 02:49 PM
Didn't Jimmy get a world Cup winners medal year's later as one of the squad from 66. He was injured in the early rounds if I remember correctly?

:agree:

FIFA changed the rules in 2009 allowing him to collect it

Sold it in 2014 for 44k

Many thought the Baker Boy was unlucky not to make the final cut

MWHIBBIES
25-08-2021, 03:07 PM
Jimmy Greaves MBE must be Spurs’ greatest ever player Shirley ?

Spurs’ highest ever goalscorer

266 goals from 379 appearances

First Division top scorer award for six seasons

Highest ever scorer in English football 357 First Division 382 all leagues

2 x FA Cups 1 x Charity Shield 1 x European Cup Winners Cup all with Spurs

44 goals for England from 57 appearances inc 6 hat-tricks

The guy was just lightning over 6 yards in the box



Harry Kane MBE

166 goals from 243 appearances

38 goals from 61 appearances for England

No trophies

Thats just league goals for Kane. Got plenty more, including 38 in Europe.

Never seen Greaves of course, but a much different era. Kane certainly the best Spurs player since.

jacomo
25-08-2021, 03:17 PM
Where exactly has he said that?

Seems to me Sky Sports have said it for him using an assumption.


I’m all for using critical judgement and not just believing everything you read in the media, but we’ve now got to a point where people question everything.

I think you can take it at face value that Kane asked to leave Spurs this summer.

MWHIBBIES
25-08-2021, 03:20 PM
I’m all for using critical judgement and not just believing everything you read in the media, but we’ve now got to a point where people question everything.

I think you can take it at face value that Kane asked to leave Spurs this summer.

Yep. Been running for a month. Pretty obviously he could've just denied it at any point. Cleary wanted out.

BILLYHIBS
25-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Thats just league goals for Kane. Got plenty more, including 38 in Europe.

Never seen Greaves of course, but a much different era. Kane certainly the best Spurs player since.

221 goals in 327 appearances in all games for Kane which is pretty damn good going

Only got to score 45 more goals, win one World Cup 2 FA Cups one Charity Shield and a European trophy to be rightly called the greatest Spurs player of all time

Don’t give us the different era blah blah blah you can only beat what is put in front of you at any point in time and prove yourself to be the best 😃

MWHIBBIES
25-08-2021, 04:26 PM
221 goals in 327 appearances in all games for Kane which is pretty damn good going

Only got to score 45 more goals, win one World Cup 2 FA Cups one Charity Shield and a European trophy to be rightly called the greatest Spurs player of all time

Don’t give us the different era blah blah blah you can only beat what is put in front of you at any point in time and prove yourself to be the best 😃

Strange to see you judging it purely on goals and assists. Guess Messi is miles ahead of Diego then? :greengrin

As I say, never seen Greaves. Come on though, football is clearly a higher standard than it was in the 60s.

BILLYHIBS
25-08-2021, 04:37 PM
Strange to see you judging it purely on goals and assists. Guess Messi is miles ahead of Diego then? :greengrin

As I say, never seen Greaves. Come on though, football is clearly a higher standard than it was in the 60s.
Who mentioned assists?

Goals and trophies won for Tottenham

Pretty sure Greaves had many assists as he was an expert dribbler and I am sure many of his colleagues profited from blocked shots on target

Just googled greatest ever Spurs player and they are all saying Greaves

Well worth watching the BT Sports Documentary on Greaves makes you realise what a fantastic player he was and certainly led a tragic and interesting life

I think Kane is great as well

heretoday
27-08-2021, 04:03 PM
He was cool as a cat last night with his goals.

Hibernia&Alba
27-08-2021, 07:41 PM
He should have stood his ground and forced the move, for the good of his career. He said he wants to compete at the highest level - Spurs played in the Europa Conference League last night.

MWHIBBIES
27-08-2021, 07:43 PM
He should have stood his ground and forced the move, for the good of his career. He said he wants to compete at the highest level - Spurs played in the Europa Conference League last night.

He couldn't force anything. Spurs had all the cards. Long contract and cannot sit in stands for England reasons

Hibernia&Alba
27-08-2021, 07:50 PM
He couldn't force anything. Spurs had all the cards. Long contract and cannot sit in stands for England reasons

He's 28 now; his value will only drop from now on. They could have gotten at least 130 million from City for a player who wants to leave. This has to be the time Spurs would maximise a fee, and Kane gets the move he wants. He is danger of playing his whole career without a trophy.

MWHIBBIES
27-08-2021, 07:54 PM
He's 28 now; his value will only drop from now on. They could have gotten at least 130 million from City for a player who wants to leave. This has to be the time Spurs would maximise a fee, and Kane gets the move he wants. He is danger of playing his whole career without a trophy.

Kane could score 25 goals for the next 5/6 years easily. Spurs cannot replace that. If he gets them into the CL once or twice in that time, he is worth keeping. Having the England captain at your club is a big thing as well I think. He could be the man to lift a major trophy for England as well. He is Spurs.

Hibernia&Alba
27-08-2021, 08:01 PM
Kane could score 25 goals for the next 5/6 years easily. Spurs cannot replace that. If he gets them into the CL once or twice in that time, he is worth keeping. Having the England captain at your club is a big thing as well I think. He could be the man to lift a major trophy for England as well. He is Spurs.

True, Kane is integral to Spurs, but I wonder if this might end up being a source of regret to both them and Kane.

Magpie
27-08-2021, 08:09 PM
True, Kane is integral to Spurs, but I wonder if this might end up being a source of regret to both them and Kane.

I don’t think Spurs will regret keeping him. He is one of the best players in the world. If they qualify for the CL at the end of the season they will have made a fortune which probably wouldn’t be possible without him. The thing that Kane might regret is signing a six year contract with no release clause. Guardiola mentioned in his press conference today the figure £200m and I’m not surprised as that is probably his value to Spurs. He is a modern professional and England captain who will get on with it, he scored two goals last night.

Hibernia&Alba
27-08-2021, 08:15 PM
I don’t think Spurs will regret keeping him. He is one of the best players in the world. If they qualify for the CL at the end of the season they will have made a fortune which probably wouldn’t be possible without him. The thing that Kane might regret is signing a six year contract with no release clause. Guardiola mentioned in his press conference today the figure £200m and I’m not surprised as that is probably his value to Spurs. He is a modern professional and England captain who will get on with it, he scored two goals last night.

Spurs may regret it if they don't qualify for the Champions League in the next couple of years and Kane becomes increasingly frustrated as a result. I suppose these are the big decisions where Chief Execs earn their corn. Only time will tell.