Time to splash the cash hibs

[Tully]

Brutally shown up the lack of depth in our squad has been shown up again, for months we needed defenders and done nothing to rectify the problem as for the goalie no good enough

[MunsterHibee]

We've got zero depth. It's a long season between now and May. Injuries and suspensions will factor in throughout the campaign and we simply don't have adequate cover in most areas tbh.

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[Winston Ingram]

Hopefully Nisbet’s performance tonight hasn’t put off any suitors.

[The Harp Awakes]

Lack of options at CF and CH has cost us the tie tonight against an average Croatian side. Really annoying as we have some decent players in the team.

Signings are a must if we want to retain 3rd place.

[CL0762]

Bit late now we needed the cash splashed before this game.

[Andy74]

Brutally shown up the lack of depth in our squad has been shown up again, for months we needed defenders and done nothing to rectify the problem as for the goalie no good enough

I’ve taken a bit of stick for saying we haven’t replaced Marciano adequately. We haven’t. Macey makes some good saves but is also contributing, along with the defence, to us losing a number of really poor goals.

I’m generally one for thinking that we shouldn’t rush recruitment but we have left ourselves short in areas we knew we had to strengthen. Hopefully the players we do bring in now justify us waiting.

[MunsterHibee]

Lack of options at CF and CH has cost us the tie tonight against an average Croatian side. Really annoying as we have some decent players in the team.

Signings are a must if we want to retain 3rd place.100% there's 2 weeks left in the window we need at least 2-3 players in. If we're hit with injuries or suspensions throughout the season we'll be in trouble. Our bench tonight was very weak.

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[hibbysam]

Hopefully can cancel the big screens and get our money back. Get it spent on this squad to bulk us up. Huge league season now!

[inglisavhibs]

I’ve taken a bit of stick for saying we haven’t replaced Marciano adequately. We haven’t. Macey makes some good saves but is also contributing, along with the defence, to us losing a number of really poor goals.

I’m generally one for thinking that we shouldn’t rush recruitment but we have left ourselves short in areas we knew we had to strengthen. Hopefully the players we do bring in now justify us waiting.
Every team in Scotland is saying the same, where is the money going to come from?

[Hibernia&Alba]

The defence, in particular, needs strengthening. A signing or two would be very welcome.

[Unseen work]

I think we’ve good squad depth, but it doesn’t help when you have

Hanlon
Mackie
Cadden
Hallberg
Allan
Doidge

All out injured.

We need another striker and centre half in regardless though as Gullan clearly isn’t the answer and will get moved on this summer and mcgregor as much as I love him is at the end of his career.

Swapping Gullan and McGregor with serious contenders for the positions changes everything.

[hibbysam]

Every team in Scotland is saying the same, where is the money going to come from?

We’ve got money. We’ve got assets. We need to go and spend it ASAP.

[Callum_62]

We ain't splashing cash on the back of no fans for a year

We have managed to keep our coveted players for now

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[Steve20]

The time was before a potential European campaign.

Obvious to everyone that isn’t the actual club, we needed a centre half and a striker (a right back and a keeper if we’re being completely honest) but we didn’t bother preparing.

Shambolic

[MWHIBBIES]

I think we’ve good squad depth, but it doesn’t help when you have

Hanlon
Mackie
Cadden
Hallberg
Allan
Doidge

All out injured.

We need another striker and centre half in regardless though as Gullan clearly isn’t the answer and will get moved on this summer and mcgregor as much as I love him is at the end of his career.

Swapping Gullan and McGregor with serious contenders for the positions changes everything.

Na, if you spend more, you get players made from steel who cant be injured.

Mental folk think Hibs are gonna have a strong bench with 5/6 players injured. Have you see Barcelonas bench when they have 6 players injured? Its not strong.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The club is on an upward trajectory under Ron Gordon’s stewardship.

tonight was desperately disappointing but it won’t hold us back long term. We’re going to see some good times in the next few years, and many more European trips.

[A Hi-Bee]

The club is on an upward trajectory under Ron Gordon’s stewardship.

tonight was desperately disappointing but it won’t hold us back long term. We’re going to see some good times in the next few years, and many more European trips.

I would like to think so, but who wants to get into Europe to get humped all the time, we need some investment or someone who can get the most out of what we have.

[Weegreenman]

A new CH who can lead our club. A player who can help his fellow defenders. What we have at this moment are young guys out of their depth who need a leader on the park.

[MWHIBBIES]

A new CH who can lead our club. A player who can help his fellow defenders. What we have at this moment are young guys out of their depth who need a leader on the park.

Isn't Darren Mcgregor a leader?

Hanlon is the one we missed tonight. Not this mythical leader.

[Borderhibbie76]

Weve needed another centre half and a striker since last Jan...seems glaringly obvious to everyone except our recruitment team...seems to me like we are waiting on Mueller ( now rather than Jan) and McCart and all eggs are in those baskets...desperately poor tho we went into that tie tonight with such a poor bench

[Fergus52]

or someone who can get the most out of what we have.

What's the implication of that statement?

You want to sack Ross?

[Pinkie]

The club is on an upward trajectory under Ron Gordon’s stewardship.

tonight was desperately disappointing but it won’t hold us back long term. We’re going to see some good times in the next few years, and many more European trips.

That’s where I’m at bud. Very disappointed with the way tonight panned out but I’m more optimistic than I have ever been about the direction the club is moving in and I think Europe is going to be a regular thing.

Keep the faith…

[inglisavhibs]

Isn't Darren Mcgregor a leader?

Hanlon is the one we missed tonight. Not this mythical leader.

At last some sense, Paul was a huge loss, we handled them well in the first leg. Darren will be devastated but its happened to plenty players in the past. Social media must be a nightmare for players today as every goal or mistake is scrutinized, on many occasions wrongly. Older fans will remember Turnbull's tornados, the best Hibs team in my life time. They shipped goals for fun in many big games, particularly against Celtic in Cup Finals! Also remember them going to Croatia with a 4-2 lead from the 1st leg of the Cup Winners Cup. We lost the second leg 3-0 with some horrendous defending. Black and Blackely must be glad there was no social media then.

It's so bad now, Hanlon is getting stick tonight despite the fact he has started the season really well and wasn't near the pitch tonight. Wonder if the Saints fans are giving their centre backs pelters after losing four goals at home.

[tamig]

I would like to think so, but who wants to get into Europe to get humped all the time, we need some investment or someone who can get the most out of what we have.
Is that a sly dig at Jack Ross? What else could have been done tonight with the bodies available? We were doing fine until the self-destruct button was pushed. Was that JR's fault?

[jgl07]

Brutally shown up the lack of depth in our squad has been shown up again, for months we needed defenders and done nothing to rectify the problem as for the goalie no good enough
Been on the sauce?

[Real Emerald]

Brutally shown up the lack of depth in our squad has been shown up again, for months we needed defenders and done nothing to rectify the problem as for the goalie no good enough

I agree but there’s no cash to splash after Covid, survival is the name of the game.

[hibbysam]

I agree but there’s no cash to splash after Covid, survival is the name of the game.

No cash at all?

[tonyrougier123]

I hope we are biding our time to get the targets we want.
That’s my best way to find reason in our transfer activity this summer.
Doyle Hayes and McKay seem good bits of business,but we need much more than that if this season is to be as good as last season.
Mueller clearly a signing coming in for January as Boyle will most likely be away with Aussies for a while.

Needs to be a busy couple of weeks at east mains,I think we need a minimum four players in.

Thought the link up with Brighton might have seen some movement from that but not to be.

We need a left winger because Murphy is fit now but cover imperative.
1 maybe 2 centre half’s.
A striker possibly 2 again.
And a right back .

[Spike Mandela]

The start of the league campaign has been very promising and I was getting quite excited, should have know better at my age.:rolleyes:

Top of the league, team playing well, exciting American incoming, Hibs holding out for big money for Doig and Europe to look forward too.

Now, out of Europe, Doidge injured and teams will now assume Hibs will accept lower price for Doig as they might need the cash.

Hopefully we can manage to bring Mueller in but can’t see us ‘splashing the cash’ any time soon.

[Heisenberg]

With Doidge looking like a possible long term injury I’d want two strikers and two centre halves in. We can’t continue to rely on a 36 year old Darren McGregor anymore, last night made that clear.

[CentreLine]

We should have progressed in Europe and it would have given us something to work in financially. Sadly we didn’t. The only option left is that an awful lot more people will need to step up and buy season tickets now if we want to have the funds for a decent depth of squad. Oh! And stop whinging about ticket prices. The club needs the security of finance to progress.

[Borderhibbie76]

We should have progressed in Europe and it would have given us something to work in financially. Sadly we didn’t. The only option left is that an awful lot more people will need to step up and buy season tickets now if we want to have the funds for a decent depth of squad. Oh! And stop whinging about ticket prices. The club needs the security of finance to progress.

THE fans have stepped up last season and this given the current difficulties of life caused by Covid - id argue its time for the Club to start paying back some of that loyalty

[Fergus52]

With Doidge looking like a possible long term injury I’d want two strikers and two centre halves in. We can’t continue to rely on a 36 year old Darren McGregor anymore, last night made that clear.

He'll be able to come in and do a job against most SPL sides, happy with him as 4th choice for that.

[neil7908]

Hopefully Nisbet’s performance tonight hasn’t put off any suitors.

I can't make up my mind about him. Some games he looks like a really top player, others he's totally anonymous.

With Doidge potentially facing a long injury I'd be reluctant to see him go but I'm still not totally convinced by him.

[MWHIBBIES]

With Doidge looking like a possible long term injury I’d want two strikers and two centre halves in. We can’t continue to rely on a 36 year old Darren McGregor anymore, last night made that clear.

What age are the 2 Italian lads who won the euros? Are they just one red card away from being useless as well?

[Smartie]

I can't make up my mind about him. Some games he looks like a really top player, others he's totally anonymous.

With Doidge potentially facing a long injury I'd be reluctant to see him go but I'm still not totally convinced by him.

Nisbet can’t play his best football in that formation, even if he does show the odd nice touch.

We were pretty awful going forward, other than Murphy cutting in off the left.

Our goal was gifted to us.

We need to be much better in final third against teams who are even semi-competent at defending than we were over the 2 legs there.

[CentreLine]

THE fans have stepped up last season and this given the current difficulties of life caused by Covid - id argue its time for the Club to start paying back some of that loyalty

That’s the difference, right there, between being a fan and a supporter I guess 😉

[Borderhibbie76]

That’s the difference, right there, between being a fan and a supporter I guess 😉

Haha very true :)

[Heisenberg]

What age are the 2 Italian lads who won the euros? Are they just one red card away from being useless as well?

McGregor was at fault for the first goal last night too. Miles off it at that level unfortunately.

[Borderhibbie76]

Yeah Big Daz is fine for cover on SPL but Europe last night showed both him and McGinn up big time I'm afraid both looked miles off the pace

[mjhibby]

Just unlucky with injuries at the wrong time. Possibly a blessing in disguise as had we got through to the group stages could have really hampered our season as I think we will see with Aberdeen. No Scottish club outside the infirm have the finances to do Europe and spl and unless we get big money for one our players it’s the spl for us. The reality of it but onwards to a cracking season domestically. I think we’ll see a few ins and outs before the end of the window.

[GloryGlory]

We've got zero depth. It's a long season between now and May. Injuries and suspensions will factor in throughout the campaign and we simply don't have adequate cover in most areas tbh.

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I can understand running with a smaller squad last season due to the income impact of the Covid lockdown, but think we need to reassess the size of the squad going into this new season now that crowda are allowed back.

[GloryGlory]

Yeah Big Daz is fine for cover on SPL but Europe last night showed both him and McGinn up big time I'm afraid both looked miles off the pace

Agree with this. Darren is fine to come in as cover for a game or two, but as a week-to-week starter is a big weakness. Need better cover all over the pitch. One or two key players getting injured really stretches us to the absolute limit.

[JohnM1875]

What age are the 2 Italian lads who won the euros? Are they just one red card away from being useless as well?

Comparing Daz to Bonucci and Chiellini is some stretch! Fair play.

I do agree that Daz can still add something to the team in certain league and cup games.

Really hoping we have at least one CB in who's competing for a starting spot ASAP though.

[EdinburghHibern]

What age are the 2 Italian lads who won the euros? Are they just one red card away from being useless as well?

Different Stratosphere's.

McGregor is perfect at Tynecastle on the small pitch.

[number9dream]

As others say, there probably isn't any cash available to splash until we sell one or two, then it's likely to be an almighty scramble in the last few days of the window.

[ahibby]

No cash at all?

I don't think we will have cash to splash. We would then have to offload where we have a glut of players say for mid so that we can strengthen forward and defence lines, just so we have wages to spare.

[1875Sean]

We most be the only team outside the old firm that is spending cash on transfer fees, maybe Aberdeen have done a few recently but from the top of my head we spend fees on Mackay, Doidge, Magennis

Don’t get me wrong we do need some extra bodies in but some people on here think we should spend spend spend

[jacomo]

Na, if you spend more, you get players made from steel who cant be injured.

Mental folk think Hibs are gonna have a strong bench with 5/6 players injured. Have you see Barcelonas bench when they have 6 players injured? Its not strong.


We need a centre back and a striker, even if no one leaves.

There seems to be quite a lot of consensus on this, apart from you and a few other argumentative folk.

:wink:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What age are the 2 Italian lads who won the euros? Are they just one red card away from being useless as well?

Have you ever agreed with anything anyone has ever posted on here?

[MWHIBBIES]

Have you ever agreed with anything anyone has ever posted on here?
Obviously. Why would I reply to someone I agree with, though? There's nothing to add.

Different Stratosphere's.

McGregor is perfect at Tynecastle on the small pitch.


Comparing Daz to Bonucci and Chiellini is some stretch! Fair play.

I do agree that Daz can still add something to the team in certain league and cup games.

Really hoping we have at least one CB in who's competing for a starting spot ASAP though.

Of course they are, but quality is reletive. Mcgregor isn't a first choice. He came in, made a mistake, and he's still not a first choice. It happens. Anyone could've had a nightmare last night because they're all human.

We need a centre back, but our first 2 are good, so it's fine for Hibs to take some time to find the right one. If rumours are to be believed, we've tried for at least 1.

[Torto7]

Just unlucky with injuries at the wrong time. Possibly a blessing in disguise as had we got through to the group stages could have really hampered our season as I think we will see with Aberdeen. No Scottish club outside the infirm have the finances to do Europe and spl and unless we get big money for one our players it’s the spl for us. The reality of it but onwards to a cracking season domestically. I think we’ll see a few ins and outs before the end of the window.

Aberdeen getting to the group stage would be a disaster for us. Theres already a fiscal gap and it would get wider.

[gbhibby]

The money is in European football not the domestic league so ensuring that you have a squad to qualify is the main priority. The squad needs strengthened, we would probably qualify for Europe with current squad but the money is in going to the next level. It may be necessary to sell assets like Josh and Kevin to move forward or take on debt. There is no easy answer.

[Silky]

Brutally shown up the lack of depth in our squad has been shown up again, for months we needed defenders and done nothing to rectify the problem as for the goalie no good enough

Do we actually know that? We've not made any approaches, any bids for anyone? Would be interested in the source of that, because I think that's not true.

[Greencore]

I agree but there’s no cash to splash after Covid, survival is the name of the game.

Where does my monthly direct debit to Hsl go then and others?

[blackpoolhibs]

We’ve got money. We’ve got assets. We need to go and spend it ASAP.

How much do we have to spend?

[hibbysam]

How much do we have to spend?

Enough to put big screens in. We wouldn’t be doing that if it was leaving us skint.

[hibbysam]

Obviously. Why would I reply to someone I agree with, though? There's nothing to add.




Of course they are, but quality is reletive. Mcgregor isn't a first choice. He came in, made a mistake, and he's still not a first choice. It happens. Anyone could've had a nightmare last night because they're all human.

We need a centre back, but our first 2 are good, so it's fine for Hibs to take some time to find the right one. If rumours are to be believed, we've tried for at least 1.

The mistake was losing the ball. The sending off wasn’t a mistake, it was a sheer moment of madness.

[blackpoolhibs]

Enough to put big screens in. We wouldn’t be doing that if it was leaving us skint.

How much do they cost, and how much revenue do they bring in?

[Pretty Boy]

I said it on the PM board earlier.

Last night is the 1st time I have seen a real hint of frustration from Ross around transfers. He spoke well post match but a few of his comments were bordering on barbed. I think he was making a little point to both us and the club and I saw a frustration we didn't have a couple more in.

[hibbysam]

How much do they cost, and how much revenue do they bring in?

We need a team now, they’ll bring revenue whenever they go in. Every penny we have should be going on the squad this transfer window and getting us to a place where our squad is strong and then working on infrastructure. Unless one of the big screens can play up top when Nisbet gets a knock or suspended, or centre half this weekend.

[blackpoolhibs]

We need a team now, they’ll bring revenue whenever they go in. Every penny we have should be going on the squad this transfer window and getting us to a place where our squad is strong and then working on infrastructure. Unless one of the big screens can play up top when Nisbet gets a knock or suspended, or centre half this weekend.

So really, you have no idea what kind of money we have to spend, and of course we wont sign any more players this window.

[hibbysam]

So really, you have no idea what kind of money we have to spend, and of course we wont sign any more players this window.

I know we aren’t skint that’s for sure, and I know we are spending money on projects that aren’t imperative and can wait while we sort our squad out.

[MWHIBBIES]

We need a team now, they’ll bring revenue whenever they go in. Every penny we have should be going on the squad this transfer window and getting us to a place where our squad is strong and then working on infrastructure. Unless one of the big screens can play up top when Nisbet gets a knock or suspended, or centre half this weekend.

Our squad is strong.

[jeffers]

I know we aren’t skint that’s for sure, and I know we are spending money on projects that aren’t imperative and can wait while we sort our squad out.

While I don’t disagree with you I think no matter when we make the stadium upgrades there will always be a view that we could be spending the money on players instead.

[hibbysam]

While I don’t disagree with you I think no matter when we make the stadium upgrades there will always be a view that we could be spending the money on players instead.

Absolutely, I agree with that, however we really need numbers in now for me. That should be the biggest priority.

[hibbysam]

Our squad is strong.

Just a shame half of them are long term injuries now. With everyone fit we wouldn’t need much, a centre half and striker for sheer numbers, unfortunately one of our main strikers is out and we are still at least a defender short, so we are at least 3 short in total. That needs rectified ASAP.

[jeffers]

Just a shame half of them are long term injuries now. With everyone fit we wouldn’t need much, a centre half and striker for sheer numbers, unfortunately one of our main strikers is out and we are still at least a defender short, so we are at least 3 short in total. That needs rectified ASAP.

I think it was more pressing before last night’s game, not so much now. If we still haven’t brought in players by the close of the window then I’ll be concerned.

[hibbysam]

I think it was more pressing before last night’s game, not so much now. If we still haven’t brought in players by the close of the window then I’ll be concerned.

We have a huge cup game (that we won’t sign anyone for now) but then two huge league games and then the derby. We need players in as that’s a chance to build on a very strong start while Aberdeen are kicking around playing Thursday/Sunday and possibly dropping points due to this. An injury to nisbet or Porteous/Hanlon will leave us mightily exposed.

[MWHIBBIES]

Just a shame half of them are long term injuries now. With everyone fit we wouldn’t need much, a centre half and striker for sheer numbers, unfortunately one of our main strikers is out and we are still at least a defender short, so we are at least 3 short in total. That needs rectified ASAP.

I don't think its quite half.

[neil7908]

Our squad is strong.

You should tell that to JR. He seems to think we need to strengthen:

“To be fair I have wanted a centre-half for a long time now, for this reason," he said after the game.

[jeffers]

We have a huge cup game (that we won’t sign anyone for now) but then two huge league games and then the derby. We need players in as that’s a chance to build on a very strong start while Aberdeen are kicking around playing Thursday/Sunday and possibly dropping points due to this. An injury to nisbet or Porteous/Hanlon will leave us mightily exposed.

We should have enough available (barring no new injuries) to see out the next three games. Assuming Paul Hanlon is back tomorrow and Doidge probably wouldn’t have started those games anyway, though not having him available off the bench is a negative.

[Smartie]

I said it on the PM board earlier.

Last night is the 1st time I have seen a real hint of frustration from Ross around transfers. He spoke well post match but a few of his comments were bordering on barbed. I think he was making a little point to both us and the club and I saw a frustration we didn't have a couple more in.

I can be critical of Ross, and I don't think he was faultless over the 2 legs - but I do think he's being hung out to dry a bit, and could reasonably expect to have a bit more to choose from than he had last night.

He has every right to be frustrated imo.

[Smartie]

Our squad is strong.

Our squad is close to being strong, but it's not there yet.

We may yet end the window stronger or weaker.

[neil7908]

I can be critical of Ross, and I don't think he was faultless over the 2 legs - but I do think he's being hung out to dry a bit, and could reasonably expect to have a bit more to choose from than he had last night.

He has every right to be frustrated imo.

Agreed. I directed my frustration at him at points last season as I felt that too often he didn't set us up right. Example being the cup final where we had been unable to score, let alone beat St Johnstone in the previous meetings but played in exactly the same manner.

The 2 games against Reijka are not on him imo. There was bad luck with injuries, poor individual mistakes but importantly a squad that when push came to shove, did not have the quality or options necessary.

[Iggy Pope]

Our squad is close to being strong, but it's not there yet.

We may yet end the window stronger or weaker.

Or neither. Just to add to the prophesy.

[Smartie]

Or neither. Just to add to the prophesy.

Ok, I think we've got all bases covered.

:greengrin

[Iggy Pope]

Ok, I think we've got all bases covered.

:greengrin

Pretty easily too.

[Irish_Steve]

Ok, I think we've got all bases covered.

:greengrin

Hoping for at least 3rd base later...

[EI255]

Hopefully Nisbet’s performance tonight hasn’t put off any suitors.He hardly had any support all evening.

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[loanheadhibby]

I said it on the PM board earlier.

Last night is the 1st time I have seen a real hint of frustration from Ross around transfers. He spoke well post match but a few of his comments were bordering on barbed. I think he was making a little point to both us and the club and I saw a frustration we didn't have a couple more in.

He may be concerned that not qualifying for Conference league May expedite the sale of his assets. Maybe the club were hoping for some additional funds from reaching group stages.

Whilst we are hoping for signings, it could also work the other way.

[Borderhibbie76]

He may be concerned that not qualifying for Conference league May expedite the sale of his assets. Maybe the club were hoping for some additional funds from reaching group stages.

Whilst we are hoping for signings, it could also work the other way.

Well if the club wanted us to progress in Europe they should have done a bit more to strengthen the squad prior to these ties then...yet again we are out of Europe early coz our squad is threadbare and unprepared for thr rigours of playing Thurs/Sun

[loanheadhibby]

Well if the club wanted us to progress in Europe they should have done a bit more to strengthen the squad prior to these ties then...yet again we are out of Europe early coz our squad is threadbare and unprepared for thr rigours of playing Thurs/Sun

You wonder if Dons and St Johnstone do qualify for Confernce league, will reap rich rewards that we will sadly now miss out on.

Both clubs in with a chance of qualifying.

[hhibs]

The start of the league campaign has been very promising and I was getting quite excited, should have know better at my age.:rolleyes:

Top of the league, team playing well, exciting American incoming, Hibs holding out for big money for Doig and Europe to look forward too.

Now, out of Europe, Doidge injured and teams will now assume Hibs will accept lower price for Doig as they might need the cash.

Hopefully we can manage to bring Mueller in but can’t see us ‘splashing the cash’ any time soon.



Mueller will not be coming to us till December,there is no advantage for them and any likely amount of money we offer the MLS is of no consequence to them.IMO

[JimBHibees]

You wonder if Dons and St Johnstone do qualify for Confernce league, will reap rich rewards that we will sadly now miss out on.

Both clubs in with a chance of qualifying.

Neither will qualify

[Clarence]

If we want to perform at European level, we need to sign at least 2 but preferably 3 players that have performed at that level. Rijeka, Brondby, Dnipro, Molde etc were not that much better than us but seemed to know how to manage the ebb and flow of a tie over two legs.

[jacomo]

Well if the club wanted us to progress in Europe they should have done a bit more to strengthen the squad prior to these ties then...yet again we are out of Europe early coz our squad is threadbare and unprepared for thr rigours of playing Thurs/Sun


The recurring lesson of football is that the right time to invest is when you are on the up.

[Smartie]

If we want to perform at European level, we need to sign at least 2 but preferably 3 players that have performed at that level. Rijeka, Brondby, Dnipro, Molde etc were not that much better than us but seemed to know how to manage the ebb and flow of a tie over two legs.

Prior to the tie I was wondering if Jack Ross' inexperience as a player and a manager at that level might be shown up?

He actually did very well to manage the Santa Coloma tie the way he did after we got the first half red card in the first leg, but that was a game we'd expect to win every day of the week.

By the time we'd lost Hanlon and then didn't play Stevenson in the second leg, there really didn't seem to be anyone with any level of experience at that level and I wonder if it showed a wee bit?

We've got good players but not much European experience across the board. Hopefully I won't be too long before we get back there, so any experience gained over this year's 4 games can be put to good use.

Re the manager - I'm not going to defend Neil Lennon's negative side here, but when he came in and went straight into a European tie, at least we were being led there by someone who had played and managed in Europe many times in the past, and I'd probably expect him to know a bit more about how to get a result away to Brondby or Rijeka than I'd expect from Ross.

[Brooster]

I wonder how many of those urging Hibs to splash the cash are going to the game tomorrow? You can't have it both ways.

[Weegreenman]

Isn't Darren Mcgregor a leader?

Hanlon is the one we missed tonight. Not this mythical leader.

I agree that we missed Hanlon. McGregor is finished and I’m afraid Porto and McGinn just aren’t ready for this level.

There’s better players out there, JR has been looking. I think he knows we are frail at the back.
On the whole though I don’t think we’re in a bad place but if you want success you need to be strong all over the park.

[Iggy Pope]

If we want to perform at European level, we need to sign at least 2 but preferably 3 players that have performed at that level. Rijeka, Brondby, Dnipro, Molde etc were not that much better than us but seemed to know how to manage the ebb and flow of a tie over two legs.

Brondby beat us on penalties they didn’t manage us. Dnipro wiped the floor with us ….

[Phil MaGlass]

My mate a Dons fan went to the game and said they were brutal, so Im thinking they wont get through.

[Moulin Yarns]

Listened to the Ayr v Dundee Utd game and the Ayr left back, Patrick Reading sounds a decent left back, Scotland U21

[Prof. Shaggy]

Listened to the Ayr v Dundee Utd game and the Ayr left back, Patrick Reading sounds a decent left back, Scotland U21

Dare say I could sound like a decent left back too.

Scotland under-65.

:greengrin

[Block]

I agree that we missed Hanlon. McGregor is finished and I’m afraid Porto and McGinn just aren’t ready for this level.

There’s better players out there, JR has been looking. I think he knows we are frail at the back.
On the whole though I don’t think we’re in a bad place but if you want success you need to be strong all over the park.

I disagree re Porto and McGinn. Porto was pretty much blameless on Thursday. He's destined for the top of the game. A cracking defender most days when his buddy CH doesn't get sent off. McGinn has lost a bit of form, it happens. He's got the ability, just needs to up his game again. I agree about Big Daz though. He's nearing the end of his fantastic career. Would like to see Daz stay at Hibs though and go through coaching badges if he hasn't started that already.

[CMurdoch]

My mate a Dons fan went to the game and said they were brutal, so Im thinking they wont get through.

They play Qarabag next.
They include one Abdullah Zoubir who Fenlon signed on loan. Played 16 games but was out injured for 5 months. Butcher came in, didn't fancy him much, we were relegated and he went back to his parent club. Has been at Qarabag for 3 seasons after joining from Lens.

[Moulin Yarns]

Listened to the Ayr v Dundee Utd game and the Ayr left back, Patrick Reading sounds a decent left back, Scotland U21


Dare say I could sound like a decent left back too.

Scotland under-65.

:greengrin

Scrap that, his penalty was saved in the shoot out!!

**** gy, you're up!! :wink:

[Billy Whizz]

They play Qarabag next.
They include one Abdullah Zoubir who Fenlon signed on loan. Played 16 games but was out injured for 5 months in the course of which Butcher came in. He didn't fancy him much, we were relegated and he went back to his parent club. Has been at Qarabag for 3 seasons after joining from Lens.
Fair trek to Baku for the Dons, then a trip to Tynie 3 days later

[cabbageandribs1875]

Fair trek to Baku for the Dons, then a trip to Tynie 3 days later


could they ask for any better luck

H v sellick after the away side has a tough European game
H v Aberdeen after they will have had a tough European game


do they play sevco and St Johnstone soon

[CMurdoch]

Fair trek to Baku for the Dons, then a trip to Tynie 3 days later

Therein lies the problem with European football for Scottish teams outside the OF.
Qarabag are a combo of home players and assorted journeyman European and South American players.
Hedges and strangely Ojo appear to have been form players for Aberdeen to date.
Bit of an old team now with 36 year old Brown and 34 year old Considine, McGinn and Hayes.

[hibIBZ]

But where are we going to get this cash to splash?

I can't see many banks handing out sizeable loans to football teams at the moment.

We have tried raising money through HSL and a share issue, it was mildly successful but I can't see another being much better.

So are we looking a Ron Gordon? Just how much money will an owner throw at the the club, knowing that there is every chance it will just get swallowed up and never seen again

[Frazerbob]

Maybe if we sold more than a few thousand tickets for a last 16 cup tie, after 18 months missing the fitba, we could ‘splash the cash’.

[Ringothedog]

Maybe if we sold more than a few thousand tickets for a last 16 cup tie, after 18 months missing the fitba, we could ‘splash the cash’.

Totally agree

[Borderhibbie76]

Maybe if we sold more than a few thousand tickets for a last 16 cup tie, after 18 months missing the fitba, we could ‘splash the cash’.

Your criticising a fanbase that bought 11.5k season tickets last year and never saw a kick of a ball and 10.5k did it again this season with no guarantees. I'm going 2moro and bought my ST but I can see why people are choosing not too with the pricing and the fact unlike other clubs as yet Hibs have done nothing to thank us for our loyalty last season.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Your criticising a fanbase that bought 11.5k season tickets last year and never saw a kick of a ball and 10.5k did it again this season with no guarantees. I'm going 2moro and bought my ST but I can see why people are choosing not too with the pricing and the fact unlike other clubs as yet Hibs have done nothing to thank us for our loyalty last season.

Agree. Don't think anybody can criticise people who bought a season ticket last season and again this season just because they're not attending a league cup game against a championship team. Season ticket holders have already put their money into the club to have a go at these same people is out of order IMO.

[EI255]

Hibs. Make £3m.

Spend £0.5m

This is the story.

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[1875Sean]

Hibs. Make £3m.

Spend £0.5m

This is the story.

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You don’t think wages cost anything?

Last I seen it was reported Hibs spent £3,356,496 per year

[blackpoolhibs]

Prior to the tie I was wondering if Jack Ross' inexperience as a player and a manager at that level might be shown up?

He actually did very well to manage the Santa Coloma tie the way he did after we got the first half red card in the first leg, but that was a game we'd expect to win every day of the week.

By the time we'd lost Hanlon and then didn't play Stevenson in the second leg, there really didn't seem to be anyone with any level of experience at that level and I wonder if it showed a wee bit?

We've got good players but not much European experience across the board. Hopefully I won't be too long before we get back there, so any experience gained over this year's 4 games can be put to good use.

Re the manager - I'm not going to defend Neil Lennon's negative side here, but when he came in and went straight into a European tie, at least we were being led there by someone who had played and managed in Europe many times in the past, and I'd probably expect him to know a bit more about how to get a result away to Brondby or Rijeka than I'd expect from Ross.

How hard can it be to manage Hibs in Europe, for a Premiership manager, when we have countless posters on here who know how to do it,?

[Sioux]

How hard can it be to manage Hibs in Europe, for a Premiership manager, when we have countless posters on here who know how to do it,?

:faf::faf::faf:

[Hibernian Verse]

Maybe if we sold more than a few thousand tickets for a last 16 cup tie, after 18 months missing the fitba, we could ‘splash the cash’.

I wonder how many of the Hibs haters on here actually attend games?

[Frazerbob]

Your criticising a fanbase that bought 11.5k season tickets last year and never saw a kick of a ball and 10.5k did it again this season with no guarantees. I'm going 2moro and bought my ST but I can see why people are choosing not too with the pricing and the fact unlike other clubs as yet Hibs have done nothing to thank us for our loyalty last season.

Who am I criticising? Im just stating a fact. Your choice to do what you want with your hard earned.

[hibee-boys]

Anyone tell Ron and the new Chief Exec to get the cheque book out when they were ‘working the room’ in the East concourse?🤔

[Andy74]

The CEO was moving pretty quickly up Albion Road away from the stadium a couple of minutes before kick off with phone to his ear and a member of staff behind him. Seemed a bit odd that he had to deal with something somewhere when the teams were coming out!

[Selkirkhibs]

How hard can it be to manage Hibs in Europe, for a Premiership manager, when we have countless posters on here who know how to do it,?

For context though I think I remember you slating Joe Newell constantly. Never seen you revisit that opinion. He's been fantastic so far this season and his chip into the box today for the second goal was a piece of magic.

[blackpoolhibs]

For context though I think I remember you slating Joe Newell constantly. Never seen you revisit that opinion. He's been fantastic so far this season and his chip into the box today for the second goal was a piece of magic.

I dont think you have been paying attention then.

I have slated him, and also said he's probably the most gifted midfielder we have. When he drives forward, he's brilliant the way he opens the game up and creates space and chances for others.

He has started this season fabulously, when he's good i have never been slow in saying so.

[WestCoastHibby]

Hopefully can cancel the big screens and get our money back. Get it spent on this squad to bulk us up. Huge league season now!

Absolutely; I go to the game to watch the product on the pitch. Not a big telly, and don't get me started on all the clowns constantly staring at phones. It's ninety minutes!! Have a break

[MWHIBBIES]

We'd be silly to ignore the clubs infrastructure, correctly staying on top of it so it doesn't become a bigger problem. Team is already very good, and we obviously will sign 2 or 3 more.

[Since452]

We'd be silly to ignore the clubs infrastructure, correctly staying on top of it so it doesn't become a bigger problem. Team is already very good, and we obviously will sign 2 or 3 more.

Agreed. We need to make sure we are growing as a club off the park as well as on it.

[superfurryhibby]

The CEO was moving pretty quickly up Albion Road away from the stadium a couple of minutes before kick off with phone to his ear and a member of staff behind him. Seemed a bit odd that he had to deal with something somewhere when the teams were coming out!

That's odd because I spoke to him 5 mins before kick off and he was in his seat for the start of the match.

[Andy74]

That's odd because I spoke to him 5 mins before kick off and he was in his seat for the start of the match.

At 1.58 he was heading away from the corner of the stadium. If he was in his seat for kick off he should be Boyle's replacement!

[superfurryhibby]

At 1.58 he was heading away from the corner of the stadium. If he was in his seat for kick off he should be Boyle's replacement!

Sorry, I'll trust my own eyes on this one, if that's OK with you.

[Andy74]

Sorry, I'll trust my own eyes on this one, if that's OK with you.

Indeed it is. the ability of our CEO to reach his seat within 2 minutes of being in Albion Road is not really high on my list of things to worry too much about.

[Bill Milne]

The CEO was moving pretty quickly up Albion Road away from the stadium a couple of minutes before kick off with phone to his ear and a member of staff behind him. Seemed a bit odd that he had to deal with something somewhere when the teams were coming out!

Ron and our new CEO had been spending a fair bit of time speaking to fans in the Hibs Club, hence the delay!

[Stevie Reid]

At 1.58 he was heading away from the corner of the stadium. If he was in his seat for kick off he should be Boyle's replacement!

My mates and I saw him at that exact point too. Thought it was strange also, looked like he was being led somewhere.

Was definitely him, one of our group said “Alright Ben” to him and he acknowledged it.

[NAE NOOKIE]

As I understand it Ron Gordon's personal fortune is 75 million quid. In football terms that is not the sort of money that even gives him the ability to dig into his own pocket to fund players. He has never indicated that it has or ever will be on the agenda, from what I've seen of him his sole focus is to take the club to a place where the money it earns by itself from every source including player sales will fund it's operations.

Having said that, we did splash out on Doidge and Nisbet so we are prepared to spend when it's prudent to do so ..... Getting a new striker and centre half has to be an urgent matter now and we'll regret it if we don't do it before this window closes.