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I understand the first leg versus Boh or PAOK would be away from home?
Since90+2
09-08-2021, 12:58 PM
I understand the first leg versus Boh or PAOK would be away from home?
That's correct unless it's changed for any reason.
That's correct unless it's changed for any reason.
Cheers for confirming. Mon the Hibs.
MagicSwirlingShip
09-08-2021, 01:17 PM
What would the date be?
Sir David Gray
09-08-2021, 01:24 PM
What would the date be?
19th and 26th August.
badabing67
09-08-2021, 03:35 PM
If we get through how much money do we get from UEFA
cabbageandribs1875
09-08-2021, 03:49 PM
If we get through how much money do we get from UEFA
i can only see that winners of group stages get £550k with runners up £ 275k
the "game changing" and "set us up for years" amounts claimed by some, admittedly only a few :greengrin were a tad OTT
UEFA Europa Conference League prize money: teams & Qualification - Interesting Football (https://interestingfootball.com/uefa-europa-conference-league-prize-money-qualification-teams/#:~:text=Ahead%20of%20the%202021%2F2022%20season%2 C%20the%20prize%20money,the%20top%20clubs%20only%2 0appears%20to%20have%20everything.)
19th and 26th August.
a full house would be incredible for the return leg
badabing67
09-08-2021, 03:56 PM
Just found found Prize money on Wiki. I think we Entered at the Second qualifying round stage
First qualifying round: €150,000
Second qualifying round: €350,000
Third qualifying round: €550,000
Play-off round: €750,000
Qualified to Group Stage: €2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: €500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: €166,000
1st in Group Stage: €650,000
2nd in Group Stage: €325,000
Round of 32: €300,000
Round of 16: €600,000
Quarter-final: €1,000,000
Semi-final: €2,000,000
Runner-up: €3,000,000
Champion: €5,000,000
hibbysam
09-08-2021, 03:59 PM
i can only see that winners of group stages get £550k with runners up £ 275k
the "game changing" and "set us up for years" amounts claimed by some, admittedly only a few fantasisers :greengrin were a tad OTT
UEFA Europa Conference League prize money: teams & Qualification - Interesting Football (https://interestingfootball.com/uefa-europa-conference-league-prize-money-qualification-teams/#:~:text=Ahead%20of%20the%202021%2F2022%20season%2 C%20the%20prize%20money,the%20top%20clubs%20only%2 0appears%20to%20have%20everything.)
Commercially allows us to market at a level above where we are now, TV deals mean higher income, gate receipts higher again, merchandise when playing bigger clubs in the groups, hospitality. All of which is before even discussing prize money. The figure you quote is a bonus, therefore there will be other amounts for winning ties, for qualifying for certain stages etc. It would be worth millions for a club like ours all in, of that there is no doubt.
Keyser Sauzee
09-08-2021, 03:59 PM
Just found found Prize money on Wiki. I think we Entered at the Second qualifying round stage
First qualifying round: 150,000
Second qualifying round: 350,000
Third qualifying round: 550,000
Play-off round: 750,000
Qualified to Group Stage: 2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: 500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: 166,000
1st in Group Stage: 650,000
2nd in Group Stage: 325,000
Round of 32: 300,000
Round of 16: 600,000
Quarter-final: 1,000,000
Semi-final: 2,000,000
Runner-up: 3,000,000
Champion: 5,000,000
Is the Qualified to Group Stage on top of 2nd, 3rd & Playoff prize money? Over 4.5m euros to get to the group stages???
hibbysam
09-08-2021, 04:02 PM
Is the Qualified to Group Stage on top of 2nd, 3rd & Playoff prize money? Over 4.5m euros to get to the group stages???
Id guess that up to the groups whichever stage you get to is the total you get. After that the amounts get added on. Would be a tad unfair on clubs entering at the latter stages.
cabbageandribs1875
09-08-2021, 04:09 PM
Commercially allows us to market at a level above where we are now, TV deals mean higher income, gate receipts higher again, merchandise when playing bigger clubs in the groups, hospitality. All of which is before even discussing prize money. The figure you quote is a bonus, therefore there will be other amounts for winning ties, for qualifying for certain stages etc. It would be worth millions for a club like ours all in, of that there is no doubt.
i know i must be reading it wrongly but the info in that link is not very clear to me, surely every club that participates doesn't get 3m euros
24964
JimBHibees
09-08-2021, 04:11 PM
Just found found Prize money on Wiki. I think we Entered at the Second qualifying round stage
First qualifying round: 150,000
Second qualifying round: 350,000
Third qualifying round: 550,000
Play-off round: 750,000
Qualified to Group Stage: 2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: 500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: 166,000
1st in Group Stage: 650,000
2nd in Group Stage: 325,000
Round of 32: 300,000
Round of 16: 600,000
Quarter-final: 1,000,000
Semi-final: 2,000,000
Runner-up: 3,000,000
Champion: 5,000,000
Do you add each round e.g get through round 2 350k get through round three 550k = 880k?
badabing67
09-08-2021, 04:13 PM
Do you add each round e.g get through round 2 350k get through round three 550k = 880k?
I got it here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League#Prize_money
Sir David Gray
09-08-2021, 04:14 PM
Do you add each round e.g get through round 2 350k get through round three 550k = 880k?
No, we'll currently have 550,000.
Billy Whizz
09-08-2021, 04:14 PM
Just found found Prize money on Wiki. I think we Entered at the Second qualifying round stage
First qualifying round: 150,000
Second qualifying round: 350,000
Third qualifying round: 550,000
Play-off round: 750,000
Qualified to Group Stage: 2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: 500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: 166,000
1st in Group Stage: 650,000
2nd in Group Stage: 325,000
Round of 32: 300,000
Round of 16: 600,000
Quarter-final: 1,000,000
Semi-final: 2,000,000
Runner-up: 3,000,000
Champion: 5,000,000
So weve banked 900K Euros so far in prize money, less also our travelling costs. Also had around 10,000 fans paying as well
A nice financial incentive to win on Thursday night as well
hibbysam
09-08-2021, 04:15 PM
i know i must be reading it wrongly but the info in that link is not very clear to me, surely every club that participates doesn't get 3m euros
24964
Itll be every club participating in the competition proper (ie the groups onwards) and ties in with the breakdown posted above (2.9m+)
hibbysam
09-08-2021, 04:16 PM
So weve banked 900K Euros so far in prize money, less also our travelling costs. Also had around 10,000 fans paying as well
A nice financial incentive to win on Thursday night as well
We will be sitting on 550k so far, I dont think they get added up until after the groups.
davhibby
09-08-2021, 04:16 PM
So weve banked 900K Euros so far in prize money, less also our travelling costs. Also had around 10,000 fans paying as well
A nice financial incentive to win on Thursday night as well
Thats not how it works, well get 550k if we get knocked out on Thursday. If we were to qualify for the groups wed get the group stage payout plus extras per win/draw
Billy Whizz
09-08-2021, 04:17 PM
We will be sitting on 550k so far, I dont think they get added up until after the groups.
So is the 550K an accumulation of rounds 2 and 3, not both payments?
hibbysam
09-08-2021, 04:19 PM
So is the 550K an accumulation of rounds 2 and 3, not both payments?
Yeah if we get put out in the qualifiers, whatever value is against that round will be the total we receive in prize money. If we get to the groups we will get the 2.9m guaranteed, and after that add on any bonuses we get for wins, or for reaching the next stages which all get added onto the group prize.
Pagan Hibernia
09-08-2021, 04:22 PM
Just found found Prize money on Wiki. I think we Entered at the Second qualifying round stage
First qualifying round: 150,000
Second qualifying round: 350,000
Third qualifying round: 550,000
Play-off round: 750,000
Qualified to Group Stage: 2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: 500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: 166,000
1st in Group Stage: 650,000
2nd in Group Stage: 325,000
Round of 32: 300,000
Round of 16: 600,000
Quarter-final: 1,000,000
Semi-final: 2,000,000
Runner-up: 3,000,000
Champion: 5,000,000
look how important the playoff round is. Win that and you nearly quadruple your money even if you lose every game in the group stage.
cabbageandribs1875
09-08-2021, 04:24 PM
Itll be every club participating in the competition proper (ie the groups onwards) and ties in with the breakdown posted above (2.9m+)
that could be *game changing :greengrin
*could fill in the corner between East and FF :)
badabing67
09-08-2021, 04:29 PM
Yeah if we get put out in the qualifiers, whatever value is against that round will be the total we receive in prize money. If we get to the groups we will get the 2.9m guaranteed, and after that add on any bonuses we get for wins, or for reaching the next stages which all get added onto the group prize.
Good info that makes sense cheers :aok:
danhibees1875
09-08-2021, 04:30 PM
that could be *game changing :greengrin
*could fill in the corner between East and FF :)
Welcome to the side of the fantasists. :greengrin
Pagan Hibernia
09-08-2021, 04:30 PM
that could be *game changing :greengrin
*could fill in the corner between East and FF :)
...which will then sit empty for the vast majority of games.
hibbysam
09-08-2021, 04:49 PM
that could be *game changing :greengrin
*could fill in the corner between East and FF :)
Absolutely huge, especially knowing sneaking a win or two during the groups could give another million or so. Plus a huge help to the coefficient including the club coefficient. The players and club seem to understand how important Europe is to our finances and our development as a club going forward, its our only hope in bridging the gap to the top two, and trying to get a head start on those around us.
cabbageandribs1875
09-08-2021, 04:52 PM
...which will then sit empty for the vast majority of games.
that's ok, it's all about the capacity, it means Tinycastle will never ever be bigger than ER :wink: i'm sure the Budge has been working on a plan to cram in a couple of not very wide seats in the budge arena so they can put on their website they have the largest footy stadium in the capital :)
CmoantheHibs
09-08-2021, 05:00 PM
Just found found Prize money on Wiki. I think we Entered at the Second qualifying round stage
First qualifying round: 150,000
Second qualifying round: 350,000
Third qualifying round: 550,000
Play-off round: 750,000
Qualified to Group Stage: 2,940,000
Match won in Group Stage: 500,000
Match drawn in Group Stage: 166,000
1st in Group Stage: 650,000
2nd in Group Stage: 325,000
Round of 32: 300,000
Round of 16: 600,000
Quarter-final: 1,000,000
Semi-final: 2,000,000
Runner-up: 3,000,000
Champion: 5,000,000
So whoever wins it could buy Josh Doig and still have their group stage cash to play with:greengrin
So whoever wins it could buy Josh Doig and still have their group stage cash to play with:greengrin
No because Doig will be worth 10 million by May 2022. 😀
CapitalGreen
09-08-2021, 05:11 PM
Total gate receipts for the group stages would likely exceed £1m, plus I assume wed get a share of TV revenue from BTSport?
On top of that, from a sporting point of view our coefficient would benefit greatly which would put us in a stronger position to reach the group stages in future years.
I understand the first leg versus Boh or PAOK would be away from home?
If Shamrock Rovers win their tie in the Champions Path, and Bohemians also win, will that make any difference to whether we play home or away first in next round?
Obviously, we'll beat the Croats easily on Thursday evening! 😐
hibbysam
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
If Shamrock Rovers win their tie in the Champions Path, and Bohemians also win, will that make any difference to whether we play home or away first in next round?
Obviously, we'll beat the Croats easily on Thursday evening! 😐
Wont affect whether we are at home first, would just affect potentially what day we play.
Wont affect whether we are at home first, would just affect potentially what day we play.
Okay, cheers. If we make it through then not much chance of me making either Greece or Ireland if the dates aren't changed
badabing67
11-08-2021, 09:27 PM
If we get to the group stages how many teams are a group
badabing67
11-08-2021, 09:42 PM
Found it
Group stage and knockout phase[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UEFA_Europa_Conference_League&action=edit§ion=4)]The format will see eight groups of four teams, followed by the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals and final. An additional preliminary knockout round will be played before the round of 16 between teams ranked second in their groups and the third-ranked teams of the UEFA Europa League groups. The new competition will feature 141 matches over 15 match weeks.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League#cite_note-uefa021218-3) 56 teams will take part.
The winner of the new competition will be entitled to participate in the UEFA Europa League in the following season. The new competition matches will be played on Thursdays.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League#cite_note-uefa021218-3)
Renfrew_Hibby
12-08-2021, 10:20 AM
Found it
Group stage and knockout phase[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UEFA_Europa_Conference_League&action=edit§ion=4)]The format will see eight groups of four teams, followed by the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals and final. An additional preliminary knockout round will be played before the round of 16 between teams ranked second in their groups and the third-ranked teams of the UEFA Europa League groups. The new competition will feature 141 matches over 15 match weeks.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League#cite_note-uefa021218-3) 56 teams will take part.
The winner of the new competition will be entitled to participate in the UEFA Europa League in the following season. The new competition matches will be played on Thursdays.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_Conference_League#cite_note-uefa021218-3)
It's mad to think that rangers for example can start off in the champions league, drop down to the Europa league, finish third in the group and then drop down again into the conference league!
erin go bragh
12-08-2021, 10:56 AM
If we get to the group stages how many teams are a group
Four mate( edit ,, you answered your own question lol )
Onceinawhile
12-08-2021, 11:36 AM
I see Norwich have signed a winger from paok.
If we get through, that seems like good news.
hibbysam
12-08-2021, 11:38 AM
It's mad to think that rangers for example can start off in the champions league, drop down to the Europa league, finish third in the group and then drop down again into the conference league!
That third place rule is ridiculous. Top 2 should always go through directly. It worked from UCL into EL in the past as it made up the numbers and the top 2 in EL already qualified. Crazy but none too surprising.
Stuart93
12-08-2021, 12:29 PM
If Bohs are still in a position that theyre looking to go through would be a massive incentive before we kick off
Dalianwanda
12-08-2021, 12:33 PM
If Bohs are still in a position that theyre looking to go through would be a massive incentive before we kick off
Yeah they are no great shakes at the moment. Would be pretty confident.
Since452
12-08-2021, 12:49 PM
I'd bet my mortgage on PAOK going through tonight. It will be about 33 degrees at kick off time. Think it'll be too much for the Irish lads.
Billy Whizz
12-08-2021, 12:54 PM
I'd bet my mortgage on PAOK going through tonight. It will be about 33 degrees at kick off time. Think it'll be too much for the Irish lads.
Its a 6pm ko uk time tonight in Greece
Since452
12-08-2021, 01:03 PM
...which will then sit empty for the vast majority of games.
Could put the huns in there and give them a wee taste of their own medicine
badabing67
12-08-2021, 01:18 PM
It's mad to think that rangers for example can start off in the champions league, drop down to the Europa league, finish third in the group and then drop down again into the conference league!
Yeah and that means if you finish 2nd in the group, you are in a play off to reach the last 16 to accommodate them. The way UEFA distributes wealth is unreal it really does make the rich richer. No wonder leagues like ours end up the way they are where you get a couple of teams which completely dominate, and everyone else in the league can barely lay a glove on them. Therefore the only way we can realistically compete with the OF is to have sustained Euro group stage football. If only we could do it. The thing is now I feel it could be within our grasp. We cannot underestimate how important a game this is for us to progress as a club. Its massive this game.
Antifa Hibs
12-08-2021, 01:54 PM
i can only see that winners of group stages get £550k with runners up £ 275k
the "game changing" and "set us up for years" amounts claimed by some, admittedly only a few :greengrin were a tad OTT
UEFA Europa Conference League prize money: teams & Qualification - Interesting Football (https://interestingfootball.com/uefa-europa-conference-league-prize-money-qualification-teams/#:~:text=Ahead%20of%20the%202021%2F2022%20season%2 C%20the%20prize%20money,the%20top%20clubs%20only%2 0appears%20to%20have%20everything.)
That's on top of the 3,m euro (well just shy of that) for getting into the group stages surely? Plus the hunner grand or whatever it is for winning a game in the group stage and there's even cash for drawing a game in the group stages.
Since452
12-08-2021, 03:22 PM
That's on top of the 3,m euro (well just shy of that) for getting into the group stages surely? Plus the hunner grand or whatever it is for winning a game in the group stage and there's even cash for drawing a game in the group stages.
Think we've made a few hundred grand out of the competition already and we're not even in the group stages yet.
blackpoolhibs
12-08-2021, 03:53 PM
24970Would love another night like that. :top marks
A Hi-Bee
12-08-2021, 04:38 PM
Hibs may also have to contend with record temperatures in the region, not going to help us, and should be taken into consideration as temps up above 30 degrees will tire any player not used to this.
:thumbsup: we need a real good display of methodical grown up football, leave the headless chicken stuff to the hun and the diet huns, a lot at stake tonight finance wise as well.
Got to hope for the best that we can dispose of them on our way to the group stages.
BegbieHSC
12-08-2021, 04:41 PM
I'd bet my mortgage on PAOK going through tonight. It will be about 33 degrees at kick off time. Think it'll be too much for the Irish lads.
Hoping and praying for an Irish win tonight (providing we make it through.)
Hibees partying in Dublin would be unreal!
Plus - wed be favorites for the group stages.
erin go bragh
12-08-2021, 04:42 PM
If Bohs are still in a position that theyre looking to go through would be a massive incentive before we kick off
Bookies have Bohemians at 12-1 tonight ,, 11/4 to qualify. Would love both of us to get through but cant see them doing it
Since452
12-08-2021, 05:10 PM
1-0 paok
BegbieHSC
12-08-2021, 05:43 PM
2-0 PAOK. The Dublin dream is over :(.
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