Penalty Kicks (in game)

[Hibby70]

I've often thought that a penalty taker shouldnt be allowed to follow up where the keeper has saved it.

Either make them like penalty shoot outs or only non takers can hit rebounds.

With the increase in amount of pens due to dodgy handball decisions it has become more apparent to me.

[H18 SFR]

So the Hibs player is the one fouled, he then happens to have his penalty saved and is about to knock the ball in only he now can’t! Why would you want to protect the team that has committed the infringement?

[wookie70]

I've often thought that a penalty taker shouldnt be allowed to follow up where the keeper has saved it.

Either make them like penalty shoot outs or only non takers can hit rebounds.

With the increase in amount of pens due to dodgy handball decisions it has become more apparent to me.

Not for me, if the player can knock a rebound in off the keeper in normal play then that is what must happen in a pen. As soon as the ball is struck it is normal play. That is why the taker can't hit the rebound off the post or bar as you can't take a free kick to yourself

[BILLYHIBS]

Nope

[worcesterhibby]

I don’t get your logic ? The ball is live and in play, at what point WOULD he be allowed to touch it again ? Doesn’t make any sense.

[Speedy]

I don’t get your logic ? The ball is live and in play, at what point WOULD he be allowed to touch it again ? Doesn’t make any sense.

Would be similar to hitting the post. Not in play until it is touched by another player (other than the keeper).

Don't agree like, but could see how it could work.

[Stuart93]

Would be similar to hitting the post. Not in play until it is touched by another player (other than the keeper).

Don't agree like, but could see how it could work.

Eh? When the ball hits the post it’s still in play providing it doesn’t go wide?

It couldn’t work. If the goalie made a save the ref would have to blow his whistle to stop the game if the ball was saved and back in play. Respectfully, it’s a ridiculous suggestion

[Speedy]

Eh? When the ball hits the post it’s still in play providing it doesn’t go wide?

It couldn’t work. If the goalie made a save the ref would have to blow his whistle to stop the game if the ball was saved and back in play. Respectfully, it’s a ridiculous suggestion

The player hitting the penalty can't touch the ball until another player touches it, so can’t score a rebound off the post or bar. (Unless that's one of the many rules that have changed in recent years)

[gbhibby]

I think they should allow the same player to touch the ball again if it hits the post or bar, the penalty kick is after all a punishment for foul play.They can make this an exception to the rule.

[Stuart93]

The player hitting the penalty can't touch the ball until another player touches it, so can’t score a rebound off the post or bar. (Unless that's one of the many rules that have changed in recent years)

I genuinely wasn’t aware of that rule. So if a player hits a penalty and it hits the bar or post then comes back to him and he puts it in the net/touches it, the ref blows his whistle?

Edit - just read up on it and you’re right, ashamed I didn’t know that until now

[Peevemor]

This thread's weird.

Firstly I see no need to change the rules for penalties. Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

Secondly a penalty is a direct free kick, therefore whoever takes it can't touch the ball again until someone else has done. It's one of football's simpler rules IMO.

[hibbysam]

This thread's weird.

Firstly I see no need to change the rules for penalties. Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

Secondly a penalty is a direct free kick, therefore whoever takes it can't touch the ball again until someone else has done. It's one of football's simpler rules IMO.

Think there were rumours last summer of it being changed but thankfully it wasn’t. While extremely annoying after your keeper has made a save, it’s part and parcel and no different to the player going through one on one and scoring a rebound!

[Hibby70]

This thread's weird.


What's weird about discussing a football rule on a football message board. IFAB themselves were considering removing rebounds from in play penalties.

My point was that there's more penalties for handball and to redress a bit of balance the success rate could be lowered by not giving a missed penalty taker an additional advantage of being ahead of other players.

Can understand a different viewpoint.

I'll make sure I check in with you next time I start a thread though just to be sure. 🤨

[Peevemor]

What's weird about discussing a football rule on a football message board. IFAB themselves were considering removing rebounds from in play penalties.

My point was that there's more penalties for handball and to redress a bit of balance the success rate could be lowered by not giving a missed penalty taker an additional advantage of being ahead of other players.

Can understand a different viewpoint.

I'll make sure I check in with you next time I start a thread though just to be sure. [emoji2955]No need for the strop.

My opinion is that it would be change for the sake of it.

And regardless of any rule changes as to why some penalties are awarded, they're there to penalise. Why penalise the side who already lost a goal scoring opportunity? That and the wish to complicate something that's pretty simple is what I find weird.

[gbhibby]

This thread's weird.

Firstly I see no need to change the rules for penalties. Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

Secondly a penalty is a direct free kick, therefore whoever takes it can't touch the ball again until someone else has done. It's one of football's simpler rules IMO.
Don't see as weird. We all have opinions on the rules of the game. Most sports especially Rugby have changed rules to improve the game. You can make exceptions to the direct free kick rule for penalty kicks. Most penalties which hit post or bar do not always come back to penalty taker anyway.But those that do the penalty taker should be allowed to play the ball again.
I have seen a penalty which the goalkeeper has got a touch which was not noticed in real time hit the post came back to penalty taker who did not notice the touch from the keeper therefore did not touch the ball

[Peevemor]

Don't see as weird. We all have opinions on the rules of the game. Most sports especially Rugby have changed rules to improve the game. You can make exceptions to the direct free kick rule for penalty kicks. Most penalties which hit post or bar do not always come back to penalty taker anyway.But those that do the penalty taker should be allowed to play the ball again.
I have seen a penalty which the goalkeeper has got a touch which was not noticed in real time hit the post came back to penalty taker who did not notice the touch from the keeper therefore did not touch the ballThe OP is going the other way, suggesting that the penalty taker shouldn't be allowed to play the rebound if the keeper saves.

[gbhibby]

The OP is going the other way, suggesting that the penalty taker shouldn't be allowed to play the rebound if the keeper saves.
I don't agree with that but I was opening the discussion up about playing the ball again after it hits the woodwork. If you read my previous posts.

[jgl07]

This is the most stupid idea I have seen on here for some time. Up against some very stiff competition!

A penalty is a type of free kick. How the hell do you penalise a penalty taker who scores on the rebound but not a team mate who does the same? A load of bollox in my view!

[HoboHarry]

This is the most stupid idea I have seen on here for some time. Up against some very stiff competition!

A penalty is a type of free kick. How the hell do you penalise a penalty taker who scores on the rebound but not a team mate who does the same? A load of bollox in my view!

Come on now, get off the fence and tell us how you really feel 😁

[O'Rourke3]

This is the most stupid idea I have seen on here for some time. Up against some very stiff competition!

A penalty is a type of free kick. How the hell do you penalise a penalty taker who scores on the rebound but not a team mate who does the same? A load of bollox in my view!You've answered your own question Type of free kick. If you could touch the ball twice then there'd be more volleys...

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[gbhibby]

You've answered your own question Type of free kick. If you could touch the ball twice then there'd be more volleys...

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Not necessarily as the you would only be allowed a second touch at a penalty if it hits either the goalie opposition player as is the situation now or the frame of the goals and only in a penalty kick situation. No other part of the field are you allowed a double touch.

[scoopyboy]

What's weird about discussing a football rule on a football message board. IFAB themselves were considering removing rebounds from in play penalties.

My point was that there's more penalties for handball and to redress a bit of balance the success rate could be lowered by not giving a missed penalty taker an additional advantage of being ahead of other players.

Can understand a different viewpoint.

I'll make sure I check in with you next time I start a thread though just to be sure. 🤨

I get your point but I don't agree with it.

You could equally argue that if the goalie parries the kick then he shouldn't be allowed to touch it again until someone else has, otherwise the keeper is getting an advantage over the taker.

[H18 SFR]

How about a defensive wall at a penalty...

[JohnMcM]

How about a defensive wall at a penalty...

Better still, how about the penalty taker’s own goal keeper replaces the opposition goal keeper for the penalty.

[CropleyWasGod]

Better still, how about the penalty taker’s own goal keeper replaces the opposition goal keeper for the penalty.

Or stands alongside. They have a square go in the time between the ref blowing his whistle and the taker hitting it.

[gbhibby]

What's weird about discussing a football rule on a football message board. IFAB themselves were considering removing rebounds from in play penalties.

My point was that there's more penalties for handball and to redress a bit of balance the success rate could be lowered by not giving a missed penalty taker an additional advantage of being ahead of other players.

Can understand a different viewpoint.

I'll make sure I check in with you next time I start a thread though just to be sure. 🤨
Effectively they are making an in play penalty the same as a penalty shoot out. So the restart would be something like an uncontested drop ball or a bye kick to restart play.

[O'Rourke3]

Not necessarily as the you would only be allowed a second touch at a penalty if it hits either the goalie opposition player as is the situation now or the frame of the goals and only in a penalty kick situation. No other part of the field are you allowed a double touch.Exactly my point. Unless another player touches the ball. That was in reply to "why can't the taker strike if it comes back off the post? While also pointing out its a type of free kick....

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