Backpack/Bags in Ground

[King Cosell]

Stewards told me backpacks were no longer allowed in ground. Had to stuff my pockets and stash the my backpack outside. Anyone else have any problems? What type of bags are allowed?

[CMurdoch]

Clear plastic bags?
Handbags

[seanshow]

Presume it's still a temporary measure, they'll get a lot of grief if they trying to make it permanent, taking a bag of a wuman! ooof

There will be loads of reasons people need to bring rucksacks with them, coming straight from work with a bag, cyclists, motorcyclist, all tend to carry stuff, as well as those with emergency item they need to carry for health reasons in a bag.

A few situations for starters I'm sure there's loads more.

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Off topic - Request to Matt Macey, ffs mate get 15 seconds shaved of your goalkicks, Rieka and today, slow as fk
.... unless we are one nil up on Thursday then take as long as you want :greengrin

[huggie1875]

got in fine with mine so did the guy next to me

[WestCoastHibby]

Should be allowed to search bags and that's it.
Making someone move the contents of their bag into pockets is ludicrous.

[marinello59]

Stewards told me backpacks were no longer allowed in ground. Had to stuff my pockets and stash the my backpack outside. Anyone else have any problems? What type of bags are allowed?

If that’s the new policy it needs challenged. Some of us travel to see Hibs and over night stays are not unusual. I don’t want to spend a game with my day old boxers in my pocket. :greengrin

[Jay]

Very American. I had a bag that was shaped a bit like a rucksack when we went to a game in America and it caused no end of trouble. People were going in with normal handbags, holdalls, massive cool boxes etc but my wee bag didnt make the cut and I was searched numerous times then had to write my details on a form with my seat numbers and some top security guy came to tell me I'd be watched the whole game. All that was in my 'bookbag' was a hat, sunglasses and my purse. I offered to bin it but that didnt help. It was literally like a wee sack with a pull string at the top and 2 straps.

[Hibee Mac]

That's nuts if true, they should provide lockers or something if they want to implement that.

Only way I can make it to midweek games is straight after work with my bag.

[Lendo]

I’ve got in with my satchel (read:Man Bag) with no issues in the past. Guess it’s closer to a handbag that a backpack.

Should be easy for the club to clarify a position. Bit more of a concern if different stewards are applying different rules though.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Very American. I had a bag that was shaped a bit like a rucksack when we went to a game in America and it caused no end of trouble. People were going in with normal handbags, holdalls, massive cool boxes etc but my wee bag didnt make the cut and I was searched numerous times then had to write my details on a form with my seat numbers and some top security guy came to tell me I'd be watched the whole game. All that was in my 'bookbag' was a hat, sunglasses and my purse. I offered to bin it but that didnt help. It was literally like a wee sack with a pull string at the top and 2 straps.

You could be right, the same thing happened to me at a basketball game in the US. I had to take my rucksack to a security room where they put it in a locker. Was a complete PITA.

[wookie70]

You could be right, the same thing happened to me at a basketball game in the US. I had to take my rucksack to a security room where they put it in a locker. Was a complete PITA.

Are bombs only shaped like rucksacks. Mad rule if true but sounds like a Steward who is desperately trying to get up the ladder and be a picky referee

[FilipinoHibs]

Can you imagine taking a backpack to ER in the seventies?

[MartinfaePorty]

Was going to start a thread on this as well. I sometimes take a small rucksack to the games, on this occasion containing a rainjacket (came in very handy after the game!) and my charging battery and lead (my bus ticket back to Peebles was on my phone, so didn't want to risk losing lose my charge). I approached the steward with the bag open only to be told 'not allowed' by the steward. Taken aback, I asked him what the problem was, but his English wasn't great and a supervisor quickly came up and said she would let me in this time, but that rucksacks were now banned for Easter Road. My nephew also had one, as he had come straight from Glasgow and had a change of clothes as he was staying overnight at my brother's.

Seems a bit ridiculous, but if that's now the case I'll just bring a big jacket and carry it in, with anything required shoved in the pockets. Must have just came into force, as I had the same bag with me on Thursday with no problems.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Can you imagine taking a backpack to ER in the seventies?

Wouldn’t match the suit, shirt, tie and bunnet.

[Sir David Gray]

Was going to start a thread on this as well. I sometimes take a small rucksack to the games, on this occasion containing a rainjacket (came in very handy after the game!) and my charging battery and lead (my bus ticket back to Peebles was on my phone, so didn't want to risk losing lose my charge). I approached the steward with the bag open only to be told 'not allowed' by the steward. Taken aback, I asked him what the problem was, but his English wasn't great and a supervisor quickly came up and said she would let me in this time, but that rucksacks were now banned for Easter Road. My nephew also had one, as he had come straight from Glasgow and had a change of clothes as he was staying overnight at my brother's.

Seems a bit ridiculous, but if that's now the case I'll just bring a big jacket and carry it in, with anything required shoved in the pockets. Must have just came into force, as I had the same bag with me on Thursday with no problems.

If that's the case then it needs to be communicated far better than it has been so far.

For some people there's no option but to bring a bag with them. I've no idea what the problem is with showing the contents of the bag to a steward to make sure there's nothing prohibited contained within it. It takes two seconds and has worked for years.

[G15 Hibs]

Has anyone who encountered this problem been given an explanation for it, or just been told its policy? It would be interesting to hear from the club for the reason behind it.

[Jamesie]

This was introduced at Murrayfield in 2017, albeit at that time it was widely publicised in advance - opposite to this change. I tried to find the rationale online - best I found was:

“Scottish Rugby has announced that this policy change is not in response to specific threats. The policy change is simply part of the stadium’s on-going review of security and to ensure that every ticket holder has a safe and enjoyable visit to Murrayfield.”

When I was at Wembley for the Euro 2020 Final I was refused entry with a carrier bag - apparently the carrier bag needed to be clear in colour?!

[offshorehibby]

The mate got into the East on Thursday nigh with ruck sac, quick look inside by the steward all ok.

[badabing67]

Can you imagine taking a backpack to ER in the seventies?

Would it not be a duffle bag back then

[Irish_Steve]

When I took my sons when they were little, it was practically a suitcase I would take into the FF lower.

Enough food to floor and elephant and toys and games to keep them occupied as I tried to watch the game!

I think I might buy one of those coats with a million pockets to see what I can get into the ground.....maybe

[Tarrahib]

Has anyone who encountered this problem been given an explanation for it, or just been told its policy? It would be interesting to hear from the club for the reason behind it.
We quite often come down on a bus for a game,take our overnight things in a rucksack to the game and go straight to the hotel right after the game . There must be many other supporters that stay overnight after a game in the same predicament.
Will Hibs supply us with a locker to keep these overnight bags in?

[hibee]

The man in front of me was stopped with a rucksack, had to empty it onto a table but was allowed to take it in after being checked.

[MartinfaePorty]

The man in front of me was stopped with a rucksack, had to empty it onto a table but was allowed to take it in after being checked.

So, basically not a consistent approach, unless, like me, they also told him he wouldn't be allowed to bring it again. Have pinged Hibs an enquiry and will see wait to see what they say. Per a previous poster, I do have a 'manbag' stuck in a cupboard somewhere, so that might be getting pressed back into action if I can't use the rucksack!

[EI255]

Surprised anyone can enforce this.

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[Tarrahib]

We quite often come down on a bus for a game,take our overnight things in a rucksack to the game and go straight to the hotel right after the game . There must be many other supporters that stay overnight after a game in the same predicament.
Will Hibs supply us with a locker to keep these overnight bags in?
We have solved the problem.We will wear our pyjamas under our clothes at the game.
simples.

[Irish_Steve]

A version of what??? :wink::greengrin:flag:

[hibbyfraelibby]

Stewards told me backpacks were no longer allowed in ground. Had to stuff my pockets and stash the my backpack outside. Anyone else have any problems? What type of bags are allowed?

Seem to remember theyput something out about clear plastic bags only and they issued a new Spectator Code of Conduct and told us about it when we got tickets for the Arsenal so I went back and checked and found this on the Club Policy page.


https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/policies


https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf

Cut and paste that in to your browser if it doesn't open

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Seem to remember theyput something out about clear plastic bags only and they issued a new Spectator Code of Conduct and told us about it when we got tickets for the Arsenal so I went back and checked and found this on the Club Policy page.


https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/policies


https://d3tepru76oevpi.cloudfront.net/production/2021-22-Spectator-Code-of-Conduct.pdf

Cut and paste that in to your browser if it doesn't open

That's obsolete now though, no longer permitting the plastic bottles of water that it says here are aloud (as I found out on Sunday).

[Bristolhibby]

You could be right, the same thing happened to me at a basketball game in the US. I had to take my rucksack to a security room where they put it in a locker. Was a complete PITA.

Don’t even bother in the States. They all walk about with sanctioned plastic purses at NFL games.

I can take a massive D Fence, wearing a hard hat with horns, no problemo.

J

[hibbyfraelibby]

That's obsolete now though, no longer permitting the plastic bottles of water that it says here are aloud (as I found out on Sunday).

The kiosks are now open so back to no bottles of water doesn't mean its obsolete.

What I am pointing out is this rule has been there since the start of season. They may have bent the law to allow access to water but they still have the rule about bags on their website and rember the regulations only changed today.

[Dalianwanda]

I had a bag at a Koln game which i wasn’t allowed into ground but at least they had somewhere i could store my bag safely.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

The kiosks are now open so back to no bottles of water doesn't mean its obsolete.

What I am pointing out is this rule has been there since the start of season. They may have bent the law to allow access to water but they still have the rule about bags on their website and rember the regulations only changed today.

The kiosks being open makes that part obsolete, yet it hasn't been updated, who know what else no longer applies.

[MartinfaePorty]

Hibs have now made it clear in their latest email about tomorrow's game that most bags are a no-no: 'Absolutely no rucksacks, cases etc will be allowed into the stadium. Only bags needed for medical or childcare reasons will be allowed and these can be no bigger than 30cm x 30cm. Carrier bags, including from our club store, can be folded to meet the required dimensions.'

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[tmb1875]

What a nonsense, the club gonna put in lockers at er for folk who need to carry a bag on match days?


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[Sir David Gray]

What a nonsense, the club gonna put in lockers at er for folk who need to carry a bag on match days?


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I suspect not.

[Jay]

Hibs have now made it clear in their latest email about tomorrow's game that most bags are a no-no: 'Absolutely no rucksacks, cases etc will be allowed into the stadium. Only bags needed for medical or childcare reasons will be allowed and these can be no bigger than 30cm x 30cm. Carrier bags, including from our club store, can be folded to meet the required dimensions.'

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But no explanation why. No need for this rule at all.

[green day]

I dont tend to take a bag to the match, but this is daft and clearly hasnt been thought through.

What is a "medical" reason?

And have Hibs thought about discrimination here?

If a steward sees a women they will - no doubt - allow a handbag in because sanitary items could be construed as "medical". They simply wont stop people in this situation, imagine the embarrassment of that story?

The flip side to that is that they then cant tell someone behind her in the queue that they cant take "a bag" in simply because the person behind doesnt look like a woman.

Has anyone asked the fans rep to take this one on?

eta - I have sent him a PM

[The Spaceman]

But no explanation why. No need for this rule at all.

It’s standard policy around the entirety of the UK since the Manchester Arena Bombing.

[green day]

It’s standard policy around the entirety of the UK since the Manchester Arena Bombing.

That was May 2017.

What has changed since early 2020 when bags were allowable?

[Speedy]

That was May 2017.

What has changed since early 2020 when bags were allowable?

Is it in any way covid related? i.e. they don't want to stop and rummage through people's bags because it's not particularly clean

[green day]

Is it in any way covid related? i.e. they don't want to stop and rummage through people's bags because it's not particularly clean

They have badged it as "covid regulations" - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/supporter-information-ahead-of-kilmarnock

Which is complete tripe for 2 reasons -

1. Because (iirc) they didnt generally rummage bags pre covid so why now?

2. Covid transmission from surfaces like bags is not a safety issue afaik (people take bags into shops, buses, planes workplaces............in fact everywhere else that I can think of).

Basically someone has dreamed this up and nobody else has challenged them and said "this is bollocks".

[superfurryhibby]

They have badged it as "covid regulations" - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/supporter-information-ahead-of-kilmarnock

Which is complete tripe for 2 reasons -

1. Because (iirc) they didnt generally rummage bags pre covid so why now?

2. Covid transmission from surfaces like bags is not a safety issue afaik (people take bags into shops, buses, planes workplaces............in fact everywhere else that I can think of).

Basically someone has dreamed this up and nobody else has challenged them and said "this is bollocks".

I agree, utter nonsense.

Stewards did look in bags before covid. I sometimes carry a wee man bag, for my specs and the like. I would be easy enough to open it and show them the contents though.

[Speedy]

They have badged it as "covid regulations" - https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/supporter-information-ahead-of-kilmarnock

Which is complete tripe for 2 reasons -

1. Because (iirc) they didnt generally rummage bags pre covid so why now?

2. Covid transmission from surfaces like bags is not a safety issue afaik (people take bags into shops, buses, planes workplaces............in fact everywhere else that I can think of).

Basically someone has dreamed this up and nobody else has challenged them and said "this is bollocks".

Do you they have some sort of obligation to search bags to prevent terror/safety threats etc.? Above and beyond any obligation for taking bags into workplaces, shops, buses.

[superfurryhibby]

Do you they have some sort of obligation to search bags to prevent terror/safety threats etc.? Above and beyond any obligation for taking bags into workplaces, shops, buses.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the could don rubber gloves to do so, if they can't just look inside without a rummage.

[Centre Hawf]

Just another daft rule we have to be subjected to as the years go on. My partner has severe anxiety that is massively helped by knowing they have certain things with them in their bag, without them the panic can bubble away. I understand there's medical exemptions in the rules but do they have to now explain why they have what they have?

Really disappointing.

[green day]

Just another daft rule we have to be subjected to as the years go on. My partner has severe anxiety that is massively helped by knowing they have certain things with them in their bag, without them the panic can bubble away. I understand there's medical exemptions in the rules but do they have to now explain why they have what they have?

Really disappointing.

It would be staggeringly stupid if the stewards ask people what medical conditions they have, and would be a bit of an invasion of your partners privacy.

If they actually thought for more than 10 seconds about this then whoever dreamed this up would have binned it immediately - there are multiple reasons why its an embarrassing and daft idea.

I have mentioned it to KP via PM on here and hopefully he can pass on to someone to resolve after todays match.

[overdrive]

I agree, utter nonsense.

Stewards did look in bags before covid. I sometimes carry a wee man bag, for my specs and the like. I would be easy enough to open it and show them the contents though.

You’re lucky you got in with specs. I was told by a steward at Pittodrie that they were a potential missile so I couldn’t go in with them. I told him that was utter nonsense and to get the police to stop me going in with them. He rolled his eyes and didn’t bother.

[oldbutdim]

I saw a boy on a bike getting stopped because he had a saddlebag!
Funnily enough a boy in the row in front of me had a large rucksack with him.
He also had a half litre bottle of orange inside it!

[ABZHFC]

Surely to **** this rule will go away soon, it’s an absolute nonsense and it should not be something that remains long term

[EI255]

What nonsense this is

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[Danderhall Hibs]

I dont tend to take a bag to the match, but this is daft and clearly hasnt been thought through.

What is a "medical" reason?

And have Hibs thought about discrimination here?

If a steward sees a women they will - no doubt - allow a handbag in because sanitary items could be construed as "medical". They simply wont stop people in this situation, imagine the embarrassment of that story?

The flip side to that is that they then cant tell someone behind her in the queue that they cant take "a bag" in simply because the person behind doesnt look like a woman.

Has anyone asked the fans rep to take this one on?

eta - I have sent him a PM

One medical reason is epipens - if you have allergies you have to carry them everywhere.

[wookie70]

Saw a Killie fan having to tip the whole content of his 5 year old sons rucksack out. He was understandably pee'd off. Not exactly great for the stewards having to police something that doesn't make any sense. I can see no issue at all with asking to see the contents of a bag and I can see why it shouldn't be above a certain size but a rucksack that can go under the seat is not an issue. Give me sitting next to someone with a rucksack under their seat over a bevvied punter who arrives late, goes for a pie, goes for a pee, up at half time and then repeats for the second half.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

If this nonsense is being enforced it will probably mean me missing the Livingston game, as I was intending coming straight to game with my overnight bag.

[hibbyfraelibby]

If this nonsense is being enforced it will probably mean me missing the Livingston game, as I was intending coming straight to game with my overnight bag.

Guess you aint coming then as all the clubs seem to be enforcing this now.

[humptiedumptie]

Allied to this thread in the sense of security, my unobtrusive wee pal who`s 74 yrs old and a wee bit scruffy, had the pockets of his anorak searched before entering the ground. You couldn`t make it up !!!

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Guess you aint coming then as all the clubs seem to be enforcing this now.

Oh well, after paying to watch every league game for a year and a bit, and seeing none - I'll just accept I'm unwanted because my circumstances don't suit those who make these decisions, without justifying themselves.

[Peanut Shaz]

It all does seem a bit overkill to be fair. For example if I'm attending a night game and heading straight to night shift from the match and I have my uniform in a bag because I'm not allowed to wear it out of work I cant take it in. If I don't drive I cant leave it in the car. So I don't go to the game. Seems a bit unfair.

[King Cosell]

It all does seem a bit overkill to be fair. For example if I'm attending a night game and heading straight to night shift from the match and I have my uniform in a bag because I'm not allowed to wear it out of work I cant take it in. If I don't drive I cant leave it in the car. So I don't go to the game. Seems a bit unfair.

Earlier in the thread someone said something about clear plastic bags, I'm phoning the club next week to get an exact ruling. If women are still allowed handbags, it would be discriminatory not to allow men to carry a small bags.

[Antifa Hibs]

Whats the reason for not allowing bags? Security (drink and pyro etc) or covid reasons?

Between having to take a half-day off work to buy the fudging ticket to now having to walk around Dundee looking for a place to stash my rucksack - Scottish football clubs are ******* useless at times!

I went to a Belgian league game about 2 decades ago and had my weekend bag with me. No bags allowed at the stadium, no issues though as took it round to the reception area and left at the bag storage area for a euro. That's far far far to much common sense for here though.