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PatHead
05-08-2021, 11:02 PM
Like every other Hibs fan I am disappointed and saddened to hear of the death of a Hibs fan but do we need to have a minutes applause so regularly?

I know I may come across as being uncaring and harsh but I know of a lot of long term Hibs supporters who have passed away without needing this passing.

What are others thoughts?

bigwheel
05-08-2021, 11:12 PM
Like every other Hibs fan I am disappointed and saddened to hear of the death of a Hibs fan but do we need to have a minutes applause so regularly?

I know I may come across as being uncaring and harsh but I know of a lot of long term Hibs supporters who have passed away without needing this passing.

What are others thoughts?

With the greatest respect to those who lose loved ones, I agree…some clubs down south have a game towards the end of the season where they dedicate a minutes applause to those that have been lost, and memorials are printed in the club programme…I think a dedicated game like this is the way to handle this in the future…


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Nakedmanoncrack
05-08-2021, 11:13 PM
Like every other Hibs fan I am disappointed and saddened to hear of the death of a Hibs fan but do we need to have a minutes applause so regularly?

I know I may come across as being uncaring and harsh but I know of a lot of long term Hibs supporters who have passed away without needing this passing.

What are others thoughts?

Hard to disagree, and I've often wondered what would happen if we conceded a goal during such a tribute, and alas we found out tonight.

wookie70
05-08-2021, 11:17 PM
I agree with a minutes applause for all those lost. I never had a clue when the applause started what it was for. The HT announcements mentioned someone passing and that seems a good way to honour a fan or someone close to the club. In normal Scottish games the action on the park seems to die down with both sets of players realising what is going on. Tonight I think our players were caught by the applause and it may have contributed to us losing a goal. Please can we not come up with something to mark fans passing that is not conducted during the game.

Nicho87
05-08-2021, 11:18 PM
Maybe when the screens are installed at Easter road
a message of love from the family about the said person possibly

Just a thought

BlackSheep
06-08-2021, 04:55 AM
I agree… I’ve said it on other threads too, but I genuinely felt the team were distracted by the random applause, it certainly had me looking around the stadium for something, after this long away it was something out of the blue.

Since452
06-08-2021, 05:05 AM
Most people don't have a clue what the applause is for

Hiber-nation
06-08-2021, 06:05 AM
Most people don't have a clue what the applause is for

Yep, I thought it was for the subs warming up.

With all respect it's the last thing I'd ever want, I just don't understand it at all.

Peevemor
06-08-2021, 06:18 AM
I think that there should be a minute of silence before every new year derby (or other match if they get relegated again) where players & supporters who have passed during the preceding year can be honoured by everyone on each side.

Jack
06-08-2021, 06:22 AM
I fully intend to live into my 90s so hopefully it won't affect me, or over 120 if there's extra time for that game!

WhileTheChief..
06-08-2021, 06:32 AM
Agreed fully.

Half the time you have no idea why you’re doing it and it kills any atmosphere. There was a game a couple of years ago where we had 2 in the place of 20 mins so.

Leave or for ex players or legends.

hibbie02
06-08-2021, 06:41 AM
Whilst I am sure it means a lot to the families involved, I do think it has become over used. The usual minute's silence before a match for ex-players or officials was and still is a meaningful gesture. I think that all changed for George Best, when a minute's applause was suggested as an exceptional tribute for an exceptional player. I think such a gesture has now lost it's exceptional meaning. It is further lost by holding such a gesture mid-match, when most have no clue what is going on. It seems that all we are asked to do is clap for people who's family have the best social media presence, rather than for the person who has been lost. My Uncle took me to my first Hibs match over 50 years ago and he died recently. I grieved with my family rather than plastering it all over Social Media to try and get a minute's applause for a great Hibby. He would have been mortified!

NORTHERNHIBBY
06-08-2021, 06:45 AM
It's a difficult one. I am sure that there will be a different way to do this that is equally respectfully done.

smack
06-08-2021, 06:50 AM
I would do away with it. Who gets to decide which hibee is worth a minutes applause and who isn’t?
I prefer the idea of a minutes applause or silence before the new year derby to remember all Hibees who have passed in that year


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Hibbyradge
06-08-2021, 06:54 AM
I can spare a minute every second week, if necessary.

HUTCHYHIBBY
06-08-2021, 06:55 AM
I would do away with it. Who gets to decide which hibee is worth a minutes applause and who isn’t?
I prefer the idea of a minutes applause or silence before the new year derby to remember all Hibees who have passed in that year


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I concur.

Alfred E Newman
06-08-2021, 07:03 AM
I know they have a much smaller support but St Johnstone have an on line ceremony at the end of each season where the names of supporters who have passed away during the season are read out. As I say, our support is much bigger but their ceremony is a very poignant occasion.

allezsauzee
06-08-2021, 07:03 AM
It's a personal choice. If you don't want to clap then you don't have to. I personally don't find it an effort because I assume that friends/ family who have asked for it know that it's something that the deceased would have liked. At the same time, I wouldn't think ill of someone who doesn't want to.

Juniper Greens
06-08-2021, 07:41 AM
Its a really tough one. Whoever organised it clearly meant well, but I think it cost us a goal tonight and I'll probably always think that no matter what anyone says to the contrary and that's certainly not what the organisers intended. Would it be too grim to have a "their memory marches on" page in the last programme of the season or something, for people to pop a paragraph in about a lost loved one?

Andy74
06-08-2021, 07:55 AM
Like every other Hibs fan I am disappointed and saddened to hear of the death of a Hibs fan but do we need to have a minutes applause so regularly?

I know I may come across as being uncaring and harsh but I know of a lot of long term Hibs supporters who have passed away without needing this passing.

What are others thoughts?

Agree but unfortunately it will be difficult to change it now. They are fan led and arranged through social media and each time they are arranged those doing it will feel entitled to try and do it.

Hibs might be able to persuade a different way of doing things by arranging a once a year thing but suspect the way these things are dealt with these days friends and family will probably still think their loved one deserves to be marked differently.

I had no idea last night and I was distracted from the goal figuring out what was going on. I thought it was for Doig warming up so was looking to see if he was reacting.

It might have distracted the players this time too.

gbhibby
06-08-2021, 07:56 AM
Like every other Hibs fan I am disappointed and saddened to hear of the death of a Hibs fan but do we need to have a minutes applause so regularly?

I know I may come across as being uncaring and harsh but I know of a lot of long term Hibs supporters who have passed away without needing this passing.

What are others thoughts?
I agree and you are not being uncaring. There have been a number of people who have had strong connections with the club who have passed away and there has not been applause for them.
Something at the end of season as suggested by some posters is the most appropriate way to honour those who have passed. We are all Hibs.

Skol
06-08-2021, 08:00 AM
I had no idea there was to be an applause and like a previous poster I thought it was for subs warming up but then it kept going and I was confused before the penny dropped and then the goal went in and it fizzled out.

Big_Franck
06-08-2021, 08:10 AM
I agree that there's no need for this and that there's a more appropriate way of marking the passing of hibees. Yesterday's applause distracted everyone I think, I had absolutely no idea why people were clapping. Use of the new big screens and mentions at the last home of the season to pay our respects is more appropriate I think.

Pretty Boy
06-08-2021, 08:15 AM
I think that there should be a minute of silence before every new year derby (or other match if they get relegated again) where players & supporters who have passed during the preceding year can be honoured by everyone on each side.

I agree.

I think we had something similar a few years ago. A memorial day or something. It makes sense to have one catch all event.

The biggest issue for me is the response to these things has diminished as they have become more common. It's quite a modern phenomenon and when it 1st started everyone joined in. There was a notable tailing off as time went on before the lockdown and an almost palpable 'what now' from people. There is going to be an occasion on which a family are going to have their feelings hurt.

Making a bit of an event of it once a year allows people to come together and pay their respects as a community and avoids familiarity breeding contempt (not the right phrase but you know what I am getting at).

More generally I hate the way the minutes applause has usurped the minutes silence. I get that it's appropriate in some circumstances but the default should be a silence unless there is an explicit reason for it not to be. Obviously that's not relevant in a situation such as this but when it's a club organised thing, it should be a silence.

Crunchie
06-08-2021, 08:18 AM
I can spare a minute every second week, if necessary.
Me too :aok:

BroxburnHibee
06-08-2021, 08:18 AM
Hibs should lead a consultation on this. A once a season memorial seems a great idea.

Perhaps an idea for the fans rep to take to the board?

hibee_girl
06-08-2021, 08:19 AM
I think that there should be a minute of silence before every new year derby (or other match if they get relegated again) where players & supporters who have passed during the preceding year can be honoured by everyone on each side.

:agree:

My Grandad, who passed away in March, always told me he didn’t want the minutes applause and that I wasn’t to arrange one when he went but I do like the idea of having a dedicated minute for all fans who have passed.

Danderhall Hibs
06-08-2021, 08:24 AM
I can spare a minute every second week, if necessary.

Just the one?

gbhibby
06-08-2021, 08:27 AM
The club could make a video similar to the season ticket thing they do, slowed down. People can send in details of people that have passed. This could be done at end of year or season. Put it on YouTube so that people can save it.

Hibbyradge
06-08-2021, 08:53 AM
Just the one?

How long are we being asked to applaud?

Andy74
06-08-2021, 09:00 AM
How long are we being asked to applaud?

That’s not really the point though is it? Of course we can all physically applaud for a minute, that doesn’t mean we should.

Skol
06-08-2021, 09:01 AM
I am old fashioned and I think a silence is more appropriate. Sadly the silence was ruined by the idiots who for whatever reasons couldnt show their respects.

I also think the silence should be reserved for when someone with a formal link to either of the clubs. i.e. former player or official

WeeRussell
06-08-2021, 09:02 AM
I don't have any particularly strong feelings on it either way. As long as it happens as a mark of respect, then I'll continue to join-in.

But if the suggestion is we lost a goal due to some applause in the crowd, then that is nobody's fault but the players' and it's a pathetic excuse for conceding.

007
06-08-2021, 09:07 AM
Maybe when the screens are installed at Easter road
a message of love from the family about the said person possibly

Just a thought

That's a great idea. It could include a photo or 2, if the family wish.

Danderhall Hibs
06-08-2021, 09:10 AM
How long are we being asked to applaud?

A minute for each one. Depends how many folk ask for one. Could be 2 or 3 times a game.

Phil MaGlass
06-08-2021, 09:11 AM
My club has a minutes applause every last home game of the season, also putting the names and faces up on screens. Its quite touching.
A minutes clapping normally distracts from the game.

bod
06-08-2021, 09:15 AM
Maybe when the screens are installed at Easter road
a message of love from the family about the said person possibly

Just a thought

It’s always nice to put a face to a name ,maybe if they were a branch member as well those details could go up on the screen before & at halftime.
A minute silence before the last game before Christmas or Hogmanay , remembering those friends & family who’ve been lost the past year

vercol36
06-08-2021, 09:16 AM
Was the minutes' applause announced by the club or something? Otherwise, I don't see what a consultation will do...if people want to start a minutes' applause, and others join in absent-mindedly...there's not much that can be done about it.

Sir David Gray
06-08-2021, 09:47 AM
I'm personally not in favour of them happening every other week, which is how it felt at one point - as someone said earlier we once had two in the one game a couple of years ago.

It's a difficult and sensitive subject but I do think we need find other ways of remembering those who have passed away.

Irish_Steve
06-08-2021, 10:13 AM
I have just recently messaged the club about this subject.

Sunday will be the first home league game since the leagues were stopped in March 2020.

During that time, a lot of Hibees have passed away, for avrious reasons (my brother included at 55) and I had suggested maybe a minutes applause before the start of the game in memoriam.

I don`t mind if it doesn`t happen but as other people have pointed out, half the time I have no idea who the applause is for and who actually qualifies for one?. I wouldn`t expect a round of applause for my brother on his own.

Skol
06-08-2021, 10:43 AM
I think Hibs and in fact all clubs are in a difficult situation here. If they try and do something to co-ordinate they run the risk of being accused of insensitivity. I suspect that the current position will continue with regular unofficial applauses being arranged.

My personal position is that if there is an official silence or applause then I will observe it. If there is something unofficial and I know the person then I will observe it. If there is something unofficial and I know of it but dont know the individual, or if like last night I was completely unaware then I wont take part, but neither will I disrupt it respecting others wishes.

wookie70
06-08-2021, 10:51 AM
I don't have any particularly strong feelings on it either way. As long as it happens as a mark of respect, then I'll continue to join-in.

But if the suggestion is we lost a goal due to some applause in the crowd, then that is nobody's fault but the players' and it's a pathetic excuse for conceding.

Not sure I agree. I hate the applause during the game. I made the decision not to applaud a while back but I still feel guilty for some reason. Players are humans and if the applause was for the chap that passed who the announcer was talking about then some may have known him. I can't think of a worse way to mark someone passing with an affinity to Hibs. Disrupting the atmosphere and potentially breaking Hibs players concentration during a game. Two things no supporter would want

Green_one
06-08-2021, 10:53 AM
I think that there should be a minute of silence before every new year derby (or other match if they get relegated again) where players & supporters who have passed during the preceding year can be honoured by everyone on each side.

Sounds good to me. :thumbsup:

Thought last night was just confusing and really not that respectful. The whole ‘in the X minute’ needs to stop. Before the game or not at all.

Frazerbob
06-08-2021, 11:04 AM
First the music now this. We must be doing ok in the pitch eh?

Personally have no problem with clapping for a minute every few games, even when I don’t know the deceased (as us almost always the case) if that helps people with their grieving. It’s hardly a huge hardship. To suggest it in anyway contributed to conceding the goal is laughable. Sorry, just my opinion.

Itsnoteasy
06-08-2021, 11:14 AM
Whilst I am sure it means a lot to the families involved, I do think it has become over used. The usual minute's silence before a match for ex-players or officials was and still is a meaningful gesture. I think that all changed for George Best, when a minute's applause was suggested as an exceptional tribute for an exceptional player. I think such a gesture has now lost it's exceptional meaning. It is further lost by holding such a gesture mid-match, when most have no clue what is going on. It seems that all we are asked to do is clap for people who's family have the best social media presence, rather than for the person who has been lost. My Uncle took me to my first Hibs match over 50 years ago and he died recently. I grieved with my family rather than plastering it all over Social Media to try and get a minute's applause for a great Hibby. He would have been mortified!

THIS

Same here dad followed HFC for 70 years still went home & away till his death. The last thing on my mind was to contact stadium announcer for a minutes applause.

hibee_girl
06-08-2021, 01:53 PM
There’s just been a funeral procession drive up behind the east stand, was actually quite moving and thought it was good of the club to allow it.

HUTCHYHIBBY
06-08-2021, 01:55 PM
It's a difficult and sensitive subject but I do think we need find other ways of remembering those who have passed away.

It is, only really seems to have reared it's head after the inception of social media though.

Since452
06-08-2021, 02:01 PM
A lot of people aren't on the socials to know who the applause is for and end up looking for subs warming up. Also think it happens so often that the sentiment is lost a bit. Personally not keen on a bunch of people i don't know applauding me at ER when i pass away just because i'm a Hibs fan but everyone is different.

cabbageandribs1875
06-08-2021, 02:02 PM
My club has a minutes applause every last home game of the season, also putting the names and faces up on screens. Its quite touching.
A minutes clapping normally distracts from the game.


i saw this done at a villa game i was watching on TV two years ago, it was a nice touch

cabbageandribs1875
06-08-2021, 02:09 PM
i'm certain the club put up small A4 sized posters on different areas of the wall in the East stand concourse approx 3 seasons ago for fans to put photos of lost ones in them, with their name etc.........or am i blethering as per :hmmm: apologies if so

WeeRussell
06-08-2021, 02:11 PM
Not sure I agree. I hate the applause during the game. I made the decision not to applaud a while back but I still feel guilty for some reason. Players are humans and if the applause was for the chap that passed who the announcer was talking about then some may have known him. I can't think of a worse way to mark someone passing with an affinity to Hibs. Disrupting the atmosphere and potentially breaking Hibs players concentration during a game. Two things no supporter would want

Fair enough, Wookie, and each to their own. I just can't see me ever accepting crowd applause as a reason for Hibs conceding a goal. You'd think with all the negative shouting and booing they're used to, they could put up with a bit of applause :greengrin

Joking aside, I can't accept for a second that professional footballers shouldn't be switched on enough to let applause cost them a goal. That's a different debate to the point of this thread in any case:aok:

Cardinal G
06-08-2021, 07:33 PM
[QUOTE=bigwheel;6645190]With the greatest respect to those who lose loved ones, I agree…some clubs down south have a game towards the end of the season where they dedicate a minutes applause to those that have been lost, and memorials are printed in the club programme…I think a dedicated game like this is the way to handle this in the future…


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Down here at Sunderland it's a dedicated time and it's done on boxing day or game nearest to it.

gbhibby
06-08-2021, 08:01 PM
Whilst I am sure it means a lot to the families involved, I do think it has become over used. The usual minute's silence before a match for ex-players or officials was and still is a meaningful gesture. I think that all changed for George Best, when a minute's applause was suggested as an exceptional tribute for an exceptional player. I think such a gesture has now lost it's exceptional meaning. It is further lost by holding such a gesture mid-match, when most have no clue what is going on. It seems that all we are asked to do is clap for people who's family have the best social media presence, rather than for the person who has been lost. My Uncle took me to my first Hibs match over 50 years ago and he died recently. I grieved with my family rather than plastering it all over Social Media to try and get a minute's applause for a great Hibby. He would have been mortified!
Agree it's all about social media, whilst done with best intentions a bit of realism is required. You would not attend a funeral of someone you did not know so why should you have to applaud. There have been a number of people I know including my father who had connections with the club who did not get applause. I might sound a bit hard but some ex players have not had a minutes silence or applause after passing.

Lancs Harp
06-08-2021, 08:04 PM
[QUOTE=bigwheel;6645190]With the greatest respect to those who lose loved ones, I agree…some clubs down south have a game towards the end of the season where they dedicate a minutes applause to those that have been lost, and memorials are printed in the club programme…I think a dedicated game like this is the way to handle this in the future…


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Down here at Sunderland it's a dedicated time and it's done on boxing day or game nearest to it.

Similar in Blackpool one game towards the end of the season at Bpool but a minutes applause for all fans who have passed away or loved ones etc. Names go up on a screen and a mention in the programme. Doing it week in week out loses the efffect.

green with envy
06-08-2021, 10:44 PM
Yep, I thought it was for the subs warming up.

With all respect it's the last thing I'd ever want, I just don't understand it at all.

It's certainly the message that I have passed on to my two adult sons that I sit with every week.

HibeeHibernian4
07-08-2021, 06:41 AM
There came a point (roughly in the 17/18 or 18/19 season - can't remember which) where there was an applause in the nth minute basically every game, and sometimes two or even three, if an away supporter had also passed on.

Again, in no way trying to be insensitive, but the first home game of the calendar year should have a minute (or even two minute) applause before the game, they even could possibly get the announcer to read out the names that families and friends have emailed in as the applause is going.

That wouldn't completely nip this in the bud but I think it would go a long way.

MyJo
07-08-2021, 09:03 AM
Never liked the whole idea of a minutes applause at a specific time of the match.

Maybe it's just me but seems a bit self-serving to want 10k people clapping mid-game for someone that, probably, 9900 of them didn't know. It seems like a by-product of this culture of highly visible, public grieving for high-profile people that has been created since Princess Diana's death

I could be wrong, but i can't imagine it would bring much in the way of comfort to a grieving family that several thousand strangers were peer-pressured into commemorating them, of which half probably had no clue why people were clapping in the first place and just joined in for the sake of it.

It would be more meaningful for the club themselves to acknowledge a fan's passing via message to the family directly or an end-of season memorial rather than this kind of thing.

Brightside
07-08-2021, 09:46 AM
Not a fan of this thread tbh. Put yourself In the seat of the person who has just lost his brother to MND. A guy who did loads of work for the Hibs foundation. Much loved at the club. Missed by his family. And a few guys don’t like a clap. It means nothing to us but plenty to his family and friends.

Crunchie
07-08-2021, 09:55 AM
Not a fan of this thread tbh. Put yourself In the seat of the person who has just lost his brother to MND. A guy who did loads of work for the Hibs foundation. Much loved at the club. Missed by his family. And a few guys don’t like a clap. It means nothing to us but plenty to his family and friends.
Agreed, some selfish attitudes on show here no one is forced to clap.
I've clapped many a time not knowing the person and not knowing there was even going to be one it didn't hurt me or the team.

WhileTheChief..
07-08-2021, 10:05 AM
Maybe it's just me but seems a bit self-serving to want 10k people clapping mid-game for someone that, probably, 9900 of them didn't know.


Fully agree with this but couldn't work out how to say it without sounding harsh.

If it was a well kent face that everyone could relate to then I've no problem with it, but someone's 90 year old grandad? Nah, sorry, that's a family and friends affair.

I'll be honest, i ignore them and carry on chatting or supporting the team, maybe with a quick "what's this for this time?"!

Andy74
07-08-2021, 10:05 AM
Not a fan of this thread tbh. Put yourself In the seat of the person who has just lost his brother to MND. A guy who did loads of work for the Hibs foundation. Much loved at the club. Missed by his family. And a few guys don’t like a clap. It means nothing to us but plenty to his family and friends.

I don’t it is helpful to make this about any individual case.

It is a general discussion about whether these things should still happen on an ongoing basis.

No one should take this personally.

WhileTheChief..
07-08-2021, 10:06 AM
Not a fan of this thread tbh. Put yourself In the seat of the person who has just lost his brother to MND. A guy who did loads of work for the Hibs foundation. Much loved at the club. Missed by his family. And a few guys don’t like a clap. It means nothing to us but plenty to his family and friends.

But how were any of us to know this? This is the first I'm hearing about it now.

Easy for you to pass judgement with hindsight.

Andy74
07-08-2021, 10:08 AM
Agreed, some selfish attitudes on show here no one is forced to clap.
I've clapped many a time not knowing the person and not knowing there was even going to be one it didn't hurt me or the team.

I don’t think you’re really following the discussion if you think it is about people being selfish or that they can’t be bothered to clap. Missing the point.

WhileTheChief..
07-08-2021, 10:12 AM
There came a point (roughly in the 17/18 or 18/19 season - can't remember which) where there was an applause in the nth minute basically every game, and sometimes two or even three, if an away supporter had also passed on.

Again, in no way trying to be insensitive, but the first home game of the calendar year should have a minute (or even two minute) applause before the game, they even could possibly get the announcer to read out the names that families and friends have emailed in as the applause is going.

That wouldn't completely nip this in the bud but I think it would go a long way.


Nice sentiment but is it necessary?

I go to the football to enjoy myself, maybe have a few drinks before hand.

I'm in good spirits having a laugh with friends and all of a sudden I need to adopt a sombre tone for a couple of minutes right before kickoff. The moment i've been looking forward to all week?

Mood killed stone dead. The stadium should be bouncing, not having a silent moment of reflection.

Brightside
07-08-2021, 10:16 AM
I don’t it is helpful to make this about any individual case.

It is a general discussion about whether these things should still happen on an ongoing basis.

No one should take this personally.

I let the thread alone for a while. Maybe people should think of it personally. Just maybe then they would understand.

hibee_girl
07-08-2021, 10:19 AM
Not a fan of this thread tbh. Put yourself In the seat of the person who has just lost his brother to MND. A guy who did loads of work for the Hibs foundation. Much loved at the club. Missed by his family. And a few guys don’t like a clap. It means nothing to us but plenty to his family and friends.

This is going to sound harsh and I really don’t mean it to be but if it’s someone who means that much to the club then maybe the club should be organising a minute silence/applause before the match starts.

Andy74
07-08-2021, 10:19 AM
I let the thread alone for a while. Maybe people should think of it personally. Just maybe then they would understand.

Everyone on here will have lost someone and will understand perfectly well.

That’s a bit different to whether we should be applauding every Hibs fan that dies. We are dying often and always will!

Brightside
07-08-2021, 10:20 AM
I don’t think you’re really following the discussion if you think it is about people being selfish or that they can’t be bothered to clap. Missing the point.

There are people saying it put the team off. What a load of *****. Just for second be the guy reading this thread who has lost his brother at a young age. Let’s not hide behind some made up discussion about the wider idea of it. It means **** all to the majority but it’s huge for the family. Hibs class.

Allez Hibs
07-08-2021, 10:22 AM
I think that there should be a minute of silence before every new year derby (or other match if they get relegated again) where players & supporters who have passed during the preceding year can be honoured by everyone on each side.

I think that's a great idea. Would be very classy from both clubs. Lay reefs or get the players to lay reefs or place flowers behind opposition goals. Done properly it would be very classy and really set it apart as a proper Derby which it is.

Andy74
07-08-2021, 10:23 AM
There are people saying it put the team off. What a load of *****. Just for second be the guy reading this thread who has lost his brother at a young age. Let’s not hide behind some made up discussion about the wider idea of it. It means **** all to the majority but it’s huge for the family. Hibs class.

You’re making this too personal.

It isn’t a made up discussion, it is a very valid one and yes, I think it was a distraction this time. Maybe for the players and I was one that missed most of the goal trying to figure out what was going on. Most of us were there to watch a football match.

heretoday
07-08-2021, 11:21 AM
With the greatest respect to those who lose loved ones, I agree…some clubs down south have a game towards the end of the season where they dedicate a minutes applause to those that have been lost, and memorials are printed in the club programme…I think a dedicated game like this is the way to handle this in the future…


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Excellent idea.

BlackSheep
07-08-2021, 10:46 PM
Fair enough, Wookie, and each to their own. I just can't see me ever accepting crowd applause as a reason for Hibs conceding a goal. You'd think with all the negative shouting and booing they're used to, they could put up with a bit of applause :greengrin

Joking aside, I can't accept for a second that professional footballers shouldn't be switched on enough to let applause cost them a goal. That's a different debate to the point of this thread in any case:aok:

I was one of the folk who suggested it out the players off and I completely understand the pov that the player shouldn’t be affected, but as I also
mentioned that it’s been so long since we had fans in the stadium that in this instance I felt it was a little distracting for fans and possibly players alike… of course it could be coincidence that the goal came around 30 seconds after the clapping started… I spent those 30 seconds looking for someone on the sideline going to warm up and having been a footballer at a reasonable level as a youngster I certainly glanced over at the sideline if I thought a sub was happening to check if it was me getting the shepherd’s crook…. It’s instinctual and I would find it hard to believe that the players didn’t suffer slight distractions like this all the time.

If applause for lost loved ones isn’t widely promoted then I think wouldn’t be the only one wondering why?

Alfred E Newman
08-08-2021, 12:47 PM
I think that there should be a minute of silence before every new year derby (or other match if they get relegated again) where players & supporters who have passed during the preceding year can be honoured by everyone on each side.

I think this is an excellent idea.

WhileTheChief..
08-08-2021, 12:56 PM
It's supposed to be party time. The biggest home game of the season, and you want to pause things for a minute?

Probably the one game of the season where you're guaranteed that more folk will have had a drink than usual.

You think Hearts fans would respect a minutes silence / applause on New Year derby day?

Nice sentiment, mental idea.

WeeRussell
08-08-2021, 03:34 PM
I was one of the folk who suggested it out the players off and I completely understand the pov that the player shouldn’t be affected, but as I also
mentioned that it’s been so long since we had fans in the stadium that in this instance I felt it was a little distracting for fans and possibly players alike… of course it could be coincidence that the goal came around 30 seconds after the clapping started… I spent those 30 seconds looking for someone on the sideline going to warm up and having been a footballer at a reasonable level as a youngster I certainly glanced over at the sideline if I thought a sub was happening to check if it was me getting the shepherd’s crook…. It’s instinctual and I would find it hard to believe that the players didn’t suffer slight distractions like this all the time.

If applause for lost loved ones isn’t widely promoted then I think wouldn’t be the only one wondering why?

Sound post BS 👍

Still not having it as an excuse 😂 but I do take your point of view.

basehibby
08-08-2021, 04:15 PM
I've felt for a while that the minute's applause for various fans dying, although obviously heartfelt and well meant by those that organise it, is NOT appropriate for football matches. If I'm not mistaken, out of a crowd of say 12,000 Hibees, it's pretty much odds on that SOMEONE is going to die every fortnight (probably closer to 2) - that's just statistacal fact. And since the idea of minutes applause for fans has caught on, that has been bourne out by the fact that there's been a round of applause bursting out at some point during the match in memory of A. Hibby at just about EVERY home game!

While I've respect for the feelings of the bereaved and have generally joined in, this has become at times an annoying distraction from what we are all there to watch - the FOOTBALL! And never was that more the case than last Thu when you could not help but wonder if the bewildering outburst of seemingly random applause - when the opposition were in posession as it goes - played a part in Hibs losing a goal. I'm sure that no Hibby who has passed away would wish that ever to be the case and so, I think it's time to call a halt to this.

Alfred E Newman
08-08-2021, 04:20 PM
It's supposed to be party time. The biggest home game of the season, and you want to pause things for a minute?

Probably the one game of the season where you're guaranteed that more folk will have had a drink than usual.

You think Hearts fans would respect a minutes silence / applause on New Year derby day?

Nice sentiment, mental idea.

I think the suggestion was that it would be a joint mark of respect for supporters of both clubs that have passed away over the year.
Surely it would be a pretty poor supporter that wouldn’t respect that, drink or no drink.

Hibbyradge
08-08-2021, 05:28 PM
That’s not really the point though is it? Of course we can all physically applaud for a minute, that doesn’t mean we should.

No one's forcing you to applaud so if you don't want to, don't. I fail to see the problem.

Hibbyradge
08-08-2021, 05:32 PM
Not a fan of this thread tbh. Put yourself In the seat of the person who has just lost his brother to MND. A guy who did loads of work for the Hibs foundation. Much loved at the club. Missed by his family. And a few guys don’t like a clap. It means nothing to us but plenty to his family and friends.

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Andy74
08-08-2021, 05:38 PM
No one's forcing you to applaud so if you don't want to, don't. I fail to see the problem.

Thanks, but no one is really discussing how easy or otherwise it is to join in or not.

HappyAsHellas
08-08-2021, 05:45 PM
I think the sooner this is stopped the better. 1 week when we were in the championship there were 3 instances in one game. The first 2 I joined in, but by the third I just couldn't be bothered, and that's a sad situation. How can you be expected to show someone you never knew or met respect by clapping? At one game the following conversation happened beside me:
What are we clapping for?
Dunno mate, some guy on facebook died.
Aw...right.