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MacBean
02-08-2021, 09:30 AM
Draw for the Playoff round is today at 1pm.
Hibs/Rijeka will play one of the following

KuPS (Finland) or Astana (Kazakhstan)
Bohemians (Ireland) or PAOK (Greece)
Luzern (Switzerland) or Feyenoord (Netherlands)
RFS (Latvia) or KAA Gent (Belgium)

FilipinoHibs
02-08-2021, 09:40 AM
Draw for the Playoff round is today at 1pm.
Hibs/Rijeka will play one of the following

KuPS (Finland) or Astana (Kazakhstan)
Bohemians (Ireland) or PAOK (Greece)
Luzern (Switzerland) or Feyenoord (Netherlands)
RFS (Latvia) or KAA Gent (Belgium)

PAOK and Feyenoord to be avoided.

CapitalGreen
02-08-2021, 09:47 AM
PAOK and Feyenoord to be avoided.

Gent are probably better than both PAOK and Feyenoord.

Since90+2
02-08-2021, 10:09 AM
Gent are probably better than both PAOK and Feyenoord.

Finished 7th in the Belgian league last season. Lost one and drawn one in their 2 games this season.

I'd rather play then than PAOK who finished 2nd in the Greek league.

JimboHibs
02-08-2021, 10:25 AM
Finished 7th in the Belgian league last season. Lost one and drawn one in their 2 games this season.

I'd rather play then than PAOK who finished 2nd in the Greek league.

And the majority of fans from the above clubs mentioned will be hoping they draw us.

Fergus52
02-08-2021, 10:41 AM
And the majority of fans from the above clubs mentioned will be hoping they draw us.

Not sure the current hibs side is that much worse than Elfsborg or Union Berlin tbh.

HendoDelivered
02-08-2021, 10:46 AM
Every team bar kups, bohs and RFS would be us comfortably.

JimboHibs
02-08-2021, 10:49 AM
Not sure the current hibs side is that much worse than Elfsborg or Union Berlin tbh.

Are Elfsborg and Union Berlin poor sides at the moment ?

Fergus52
02-08-2021, 10:51 AM
Are Elfsborg and Union Berlin poor sides at the moment ?

I have no idea, but the Swedish league isn't great at the moment and Union Berlin were only recently promoted back into the Bundesliga so making an educated guess.

I'm not sure the teams we could draw would be desperate to play hibs over the other unseeded teams.

Ruben Kazan is the obvious side they would like to avoid.

CapitalGreen
02-08-2021, 10:54 AM
Finished 7th in the Belgian league last season. Lost one and drawn one in their 2 games this season.

I'd rather play then than PAOK who finished 2nd in the Greek league.

Belgian league has a split/European play off system so Gent actually finished 5th.

BlackSheep
02-08-2021, 10:55 AM
Astana... Celtic played them a few years back... beat them 5-0.... but then lost 4-3 on the away leg....

Maybe a good shout?

Hibby70
02-08-2021, 11:50 AM
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/draws/2022/2001497/

greenlex
02-08-2021, 12:03 PM
Here we go.

theonlywayisup
02-08-2021, 12:05 PM
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/draws/2022/2001497/


About to start - guy just introducing the seeded / unseeded teams

AliboyFC
02-08-2021, 12:10 PM
I hate draws they get me so nervous man.

hibbysam
02-08-2021, 12:11 PM
Lincoln Red Imps FC (GIB) / ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)

That’s Hibernians of Malta.

SteveHFC
02-08-2021, 12:12 PM
Good draw.

MacBean
02-08-2021, 12:12 PM
Bohemians or PAOK

Diclonius
02-08-2021, 12:12 PM
PAOK. gg

JXM73
02-08-2021, 12:12 PM
PAOK or bohemians...if we beat the croats.....

theonlywayisup
02-08-2021, 12:12 PM
That’s Hibernians of Malta.

oh I :doh:

:hide:

AliboyFC
02-08-2021, 12:13 PM
Hope bohemians win paok will be tough.

hibbysam
02-08-2021, 12:14 PM
Away first thankfully if we progress.

Hibby70
02-08-2021, 12:16 PM
Can't imagine there's a direct flight to Thessaloniki😬

MacBean
02-08-2021, 12:24 PM
Stream stopped working for me, who did Aberdeen get (should they progress)?

JohnM1875
02-08-2021, 12:26 PM
Stream stopped working for me, who did Aberdeen get (should they progress)?

Limassol or Qarabag. Real chance of Aberdeen making the group stages.

Diclonius
02-08-2021, 12:28 PM
I opted out of the annual summer trip with my partner to Athens to visit her parents. First leg takes place while she's there. Gutted.

Souter96Mac
02-08-2021, 12:28 PM
Limassol or Qarabag. Real chance of Aberdeen making the group stages.

Think Qarabag are pretty strong

Col2
02-08-2021, 12:30 PM
Can't imagine there's a direct flight to Thessaloniki😬

Been a few times before for holidays in Halkidiki and you are right it’s via London (maybe Manchester?)

Mikey
02-08-2021, 12:34 PM
What would the dates be for those games if we get through?

hibby rae
02-08-2021, 12:35 PM
PAOK or bohemians...if we beat the croats.....

If it turns out we are good enough to beat the Croats, then surely we have to stand a good chance in the next round too?

Northernhibee
02-08-2021, 12:36 PM
I’d be amazed if we got past both the Croatian team and PAOK. Both teams with good European experience.

Onceinawhile
02-08-2021, 12:37 PM
What would the dates be for those games if we get through?

19th and 26th

danhibees1875
02-08-2021, 12:38 PM
I opted out of the annual summer trip with my partner to Athens to visit her parents. First leg takes place while she's there. Gutted.

A romantic gesture would be to surprise her by going now though. :greengrin

Stanton Spence
02-08-2021, 12:41 PM
If it turns out we are good enough to beat the Croats, then surely we have to stand a good chance in the next round too?That's what I was thinking mate and surely PAOK aren't much better than Asteras the Greek side we put out of the europa league qualifiers

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Col2
02-08-2021, 12:41 PM
What would the dates be for those games if we get through?

https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1422168780352933890?s=21

19th and 25th Aug with home tie on 25th according to this but I would assume it’s the 26th and that is a typo.

Would also give us 4 -5 days remaining in window to buy additional players if we make group stages and guaranteed £2/3m income. 👍

BoomtownHibees
02-08-2021, 12:43 PM
That's what I was thinking mate and surely PAOK aren't much better than Asteras the Greek side we put out of the europa league qualifiers

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PAOK finished 2nd in the league last year with 64 points, Asteras 6th with 51 points

hibby rae
02-08-2021, 12:44 PM
I’d be amazed if we got past both the Croatian team and PAOK. Both teams with good European experience.

True, I know we've only had a couple opportunities in the last 5 years, but we didn't disgrace ourselves.

I wonder if they look at us and think we could be tricky?

Stuart93
02-08-2021, 12:44 PM
When you look at PAOK’s team it’s pretty strong. Nélson Oliveira and Kagawa the standouts, can’t see us getting passed them if we beat the Croats

hibby rae
02-08-2021, 12:45 PM
PAOK finished 2nd in the league last year with 64 points, Asteras 6th with 51 points

Where did Asteras finish when we knocked them out?

BoomtownHibees
02-08-2021, 12:48 PM
Where did Asteras finish when we knocked them out?

5th in the season that got them in to the EL (2017/18). PAOK were 2nd that season as well

11th in the actual season we played them (2018/19). PAOK won the league

davhibby
02-08-2021, 12:50 PM
PAOK finished 2nd in the league last year with 64 points, Asteras 6th with 51 points

AEK finished close behind them last season and just got papped out by a team from Bosnia, we’ll need to be at our best in both ties but there’s no reason we can’t win them

hibby rae
02-08-2021, 12:51 PM
5th in the season that got them in to the EL (2017/18). PAOK were 2nd that season as well

11th in the actual season we played them (2018/19). PAOK won the league

So a step up, but in a similar context to having to play Celtic instead of Aberdeen?

MacBean
02-08-2021, 12:51 PM
5th in the season that got them in to the EL (2017/18). PAOK were 2nd that season as well

11th in the actual season we played them (2018/19). PAOK won the league
PAOK then went onto win the greek league the following season (season we played Asteras) unbeaten with a domestic double

Hibby Bairn
02-08-2021, 01:19 PM
So a step up, but in a similar context to having to play Celtic instead of Aberdeen?

Correct. If Rangers or Celtic drew PAOK they'd be delighted. For Hibs it's tough but not unwinnable by any stretch of the imagination. Same goes for Rijeka.

007
02-08-2021, 01:20 PM
PAOK then went onto win the greek league the following season (season we played Asteras) unbeaten with a domestic double

Aye but their subsequent manager, Neilis Lennonos, has since ruined the team.

Since90+2
02-08-2021, 01:22 PM
Correct. If Rangers or Celtic drew PAOK they'd be delighted. For Hibs it's tough but not unwinnable by any stretch of the imagination. Same goes for Rijeka.

I'd fancy PAOK to beat Celtic. Looking at their squad and the fact they've just finished 2nd in the Greek league.

flash
02-08-2021, 01:40 PM
In other news Red Star Belgrade could play Dinamo Zagreb in Champions League play off.
Last time this happened it started the Balkan War.

hibby rae
02-08-2021, 01:43 PM
I'd fancy PAOK to beat Celtic. Looking at their squad and the fact they've just finished 2nd in the Greek league.

Tbf I messaged my brother last Wednesday and said Hearts would beat Celtic.

hibby rae
02-08-2021, 01:44 PM
Aye but their subsequent manager, Neilis Lennonos, has since ruined the team.

I think they have a new guy in, Heckingbottomopolous.

hibbysam
02-08-2021, 02:02 PM
I'd fancy PAOK to beat Celtic. Looking at their squad and the fact they've just finished 2nd in the Greek league.

Greek league is about 9 places worse off than Scotland.

JimBHibees
02-08-2021, 02:05 PM
Limassol or Qarabag. Real chance of Aberdeen making the group stages.

Were Aberdeen seeded?

Jim44
02-08-2021, 02:05 PM
PAOK and Feyenoord to be avoided.


Gent are probably better than both PAOK and Feyenoord.


And the majority of fans from the above clubs mentioned will be hoping they draw us.


Every team bar kups, bohs and RFS would be us comfortably.

……. and with HMK Rijeka about to take us to the cleaners, we might as well pack up and go home.:greengrin

Since90+2
02-08-2021, 02:06 PM
Greek league is about 9 places worse off than Scotland.

Denmark are also currently below Scotland but a team from there just knocked Celtic out.

hibbysam
02-08-2021, 02:08 PM
Denmark are also currently below Scotland but a team from there just knocked Celtic out.

Absolutely, even Denmark are far higher than Greece though. Any tie in Europe is tough for us but let’s not pretend the Greek league is some super league in Europe. Coming second in Scotland is just as good as second in Greece, if not better for me.

Hermit Crab
02-08-2021, 02:09 PM
I opted out of the annual summer trip with my partner to Athens to visit her parents. First leg takes place while she's there. Gutted.


Greece in on the Amber list is it not?

Hermit Crab
02-08-2021, 02:12 PM
Lets be realistic here, if the Croats don't tuck us away, which I think they will over 2 legs then PAOK certainly would. They're miles better than us.

Fergus52
02-08-2021, 02:12 PM
Were Aberdeen seeded?

nah, Qarabag were.

Stanton Spence
02-08-2021, 02:15 PM
PAOK finished 2nd in the league last year with 64 points, Asteras 6th with 51 pointsCheers mate [emoji1303] obviously they are the better side but so where we when we played Asteras so not impossible
I'm more concerned about beating Rijecka than PAOK

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Since90+2
02-08-2021, 02:17 PM
Absolutely, even Denmark are far higher than Greece though. Any tie in Europe is tough for us but let’s not pretend the Greek league is some super league in Europe. Coming second in Scotland is just as good as second in Greece, if not better for me.

I'd imagine the standard of Greek football is higher than Scotland. Scotland's coefficient is high because of the performances of 1 team in recent years, Rangers, it doesn't mean the overall standard of the league is better.

Oscar T Grouch
02-08-2021, 02:24 PM
I'd imagine the standard of Greek football is higher than Scotland. Scotland's coefficient is high because of the performances of 1 team in recent years, Rangers, it doesn't mean the overall standard of the league is better.

That is simply not true, the coefficient points contributed over the last 5 years is; Ranger 49.5, Celtic 49.0, Aberdeen 11.0, Hibs 6.0, Motherwell 3.0 and Killie 1.0, Rangers have certainly taken the lead recently but Scotland's coefficient is high because of both the glasgow bigots.

JXM73
02-08-2021, 02:25 PM
I'll take 4 st johnstone/greece/scotland type performances... ruinous football and two penalty shoot outs if it gets us in the groups..

Jim44
02-08-2021, 02:26 PM
As the saying goes ……Beware of Greeks beating Hibs.

Phil MaGlass
02-08-2021, 02:31 PM
PAOK, recently beat Feyenoord, Heracles and a narrow 1-0 defeat from PSV. Friendlies mind you.

Hibby70
02-08-2021, 02:39 PM
Wonder when we'll find out if successful in the ballot. Would have thought they'd be hoping for an answer from ECc so they could just do it once with hopefully something like 7,500 fans.

hibee1875
02-08-2021, 02:43 PM
Wonder when we'll find out if successful in the ballot. Would have thought they'd be hoping for an answer from ECc so they could just do it once with hopefully something like 7,500 fans.

Im assuming they’re using some software to do the sorting/picking so hopefully soon

Pagan Hibernia
02-08-2021, 02:47 PM
Awk well. We saw off Tripolis a couple of years back, we can see off this mob too.

hopefully it’s bohemians instead... if we get past the Croats

Since90+2
02-08-2021, 02:49 PM
That is simply not true, the coefficient points contributed over the last 5 years is; Ranger 49.5, Celtic 49.0, Aberdeen 11.0, Hibs 6.0, Motherwell 3.0 and Killie 1.0, Rangers have certainly taken the lead recently but Scotland's coefficient is high because of both the glasgow bigots.

Over 5 years yes but id imagine if you looked at the last 2 or 3 seasons it's Rangers who are the biggest contributers.

hibbysam
02-08-2021, 03:03 PM
I'd imagine the standard of Greek football is higher than Scotland. Scotland's coefficient is high because of the performances of 1 team in recent years, Rangers, it doesn't mean the overall standard of the league is better.

1 team? It’s based over 5 years in which time Celtic contributed a fair bit, Rangers over the last couple of years, even we have gained points towards it. If the league was of a much higher standard then their teams would be able to compete to a better level in Europe.

lucky
02-08-2021, 03:33 PM
This a decent draw for us. Both are hard games but we certainly have a very good chance of qualifying.

Hibrandenburg
02-08-2021, 03:44 PM
Not sure the current hibs side is that much worse than Elfsborg or Union Berlin tbh.

Hibs would struggle in Bundesliga 2 never mind playing a Bundesliga 1 team. Not sure how strong the Danish league is but most of their top players are Legionnaires playing abroad.

Oscar T Grouch
02-08-2021, 03:48 PM
Over 5 years yes but id imagine if you looked at the last 2 or 3 seasons it's Rangers who are the biggest contributers.

You cannot negate Celtc's contribution to suit your argument, the coefficient is based over 5/6 years, in those years the huns got put out by a Luxembourger team while Celtc played in the CL group stages. Yes their last 2 years have been good but before that Celtc produced the vast majority of Scotland's coefficient points. We would not be heading to 9th position if it wasn't for both the bigot brothers points.

hibby rae
02-08-2021, 04:03 PM
PAOK, recently beat Feyenoord, Heracles and a narrow 1-0 defeat from PSV. Friendlies mind you.

Tbf we beat Arsenal in a friendly.

Since90+2
02-08-2021, 04:04 PM
You cannot negate Celtc's contribution to suit your argument, the coefficient is based over 5/6 years, in those years the huns got put out by a Luxembourger team while Celtc played in the CL group stages. Yes their last 2 years have been good but before that Celtc produced the vast majority of Scotland's coefficient points. We would not be heading to 9th position if it wasn't for both the bigot brothers points.

There is no argument. I'm simply pointing out that it's predominantly Rangers who have contributed to Scotland's coefficient the last couple of seasons. That's an undisputable fact.

hibbysam
02-08-2021, 04:18 PM
There is no argument. I'm simply pointing out that it's predominantly Rangers who have contributed to Scotland's coefficient the last couple of seasons. That's an undisputable fact.

But we aren’t 9 places above Greece purely due to Rangers, it’s due to us having two top teams contributing well over the last 5 years with 2 others contributing a little. Strength of a league is purely based on opinion, however it’s undeniable that Scottish clubs have been far more successful than Greek clubs in Europe in the past 5 years.

davhibby
02-08-2021, 08:34 PM
If we can compete with Rangers in one off games in the league then there’s no reason we can’t beat teams like PAOK if we turn up on the night. Need to turn up on Thursday first though

Fergus52
02-08-2021, 08:41 PM
I'd imagine the standard of Greek football is higher than Scotland. Scotland's coefficient is high because of the performances of 1 team in recent years, Rangers, it doesn't mean the overall standard of the league is better.

Most leagues have 1 or 2 sides making up the bulk of their coefficient points.

Can't be bothered looking it up now but I'd wager that the Greek leagues current coefficient points rely on olympiakos more than Scotland does on Celtic or rangers.

Fergus52
02-08-2021, 08:43 PM
Hibs would struggle in Bundesliga 2 never mind playing a Bundesliga 1 team. Not sure how strong the Danish league is but most of their top players are Legionnaires playing abroad.

Elfsborg are from Sweden, whose league is pretty poor just now.

I have no idea how strong bundesliga 2 is but I'd doubt we'd be the worst team there.

Aberdeen were very unlucky to not put out the team that came 7th in the premier League a couple of seasons back

CMurdoch
02-08-2021, 09:01 PM
Over 5 years yes but id imagine if you looked at the last 2 or 3 seasons it's Rangers who are the biggest contributers.

The Greeks only have 2 teams left in Europe.
Scotland still have all 5 standing .....................for another 11 days.

AliboyFC
02-08-2021, 09:45 PM
This a decent draw for us. Both are hard games but we certainly have a very good chance of qualifying.

Atleast someone is positive. 👍

NASAHIBS
03-08-2021, 07:12 PM
Bohemians 1-0 up v PAOK

NYHibby
03-08-2021, 09:41 PM
Hibs would struggle in Bundesliga 2 never mind playing a Bundesliga 1 team. Not sure how strong the Danish league is but most of their top players are Legionnaires playing abroad.

I’m not sure we would struggle in 2 Bundeslliga. If you look at 538’s global club ranking, which hasn’t been updated for this season, we are ranked above half of the 2 Bundesliga teams. I’ve seen Regensburg play, and I don’t remember thinking they were clearly better than us.

mim
03-08-2021, 09:51 PM
As the saying goes ……Beware of Greeks beating Hibs.

Quidquid id est timeo Danaos et dona ferentes

Not that I'm a Latin scholar or anything like that :greengrin

Smartie
03-08-2021, 10:21 PM
I’m not sure we would struggle in 2 Bundeslliga. If you look at 538’s global club ranking, which hasn’t been updated for this season, we are ranked above half of the 2 Bundesliga teams. I’ve seen Regensburg play, and I don’t remember thinking they were clearly better than us.

I know this means nothing, but did Brondby not follow up beating us on penalties by knocking out Hertha BSC?