Confessions of an Ibiza Drugs Mule

[hibbydog]

Anyone watch this on the I player?

I found the lassie pretty despicable to be honest.

The attention seeking (‘most infamous up-do in the world’ ), the dishonesty, the lack of remorse and the bad language was a bit unbecoming for someone who was guilty of such a heinous crime.

A bit too proud of herself too. She seemed to spend too much time boasting about having the balls to smuggle drugs into South America and survive the prison sentence. Maybe better she acknowledged the crime and impact of drugs on people’s lives?

She was too quick to dismiss bad decisions as being young and stupid. Had umpteen chances to do the right thing, but didn’t.

My Mrs thinks I’m being too harsh so I’m interested in others’ opinions on this.

Cheers

[CallumLaidlaw]

Anyone watch this on the I player?

I found the lassie pretty despicable to be honest.

The attention seeking (‘most infamous up-do in the world’ ), the dishonesty, the lack of remorse and the bad language was a bit unbecoming for someone who was guilty of such a heinous crime.

A bit too proud of herself too. She seemed to spend too much time boasting about having the balls to smuggle drugs into South America and survive the prison sentence. Maybe better she acknowledged the crime and impact of drugs on people’s lives?

She was too quick to dismiss bad decisions as being young and stupid. Had umpteen chances to do the right thing, but didn’t.

My Mrs thinks I’m being too harsh so I’m interested in others’ opinions on this.

Cheers

I’d probably agree with your missus. Daft naive young lassie. She didn’t even know where she was going til on the flight. And by the sounds of it, the money she was accepting for doing it showed she didn’t have a clue what she was doing. I get the impression she’s keen to show she’s learnt from the experience and has managed to make a good life for herself.


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[Sir David Gray]

Anyone watch this on the I player?

I found the lassie pretty despicable to be honest.

The attention seeking (‘most infamous up-do in the world’ ), the dishonesty, the lack of remorse and the bad language was a bit unbecoming for someone who was guilty of such a heinous crime.

A bit too proud of herself too. She seemed to spend too much time boasting about having the balls to smuggle drugs into South America and survive the prison sentence. Maybe better she acknowledged the crime and impact of drugs on people’s lives?

She was too quick to dismiss bad decisions as being young and stupid. Had umpteen chances to do the right thing, but didn’t.

My Mrs thinks I’m being too harsh so I’m interested in others’ opinions on this.

Cheers

I'm inclined to agree with you.

She seems to quite enjoy the z-list celebrity status she now has.

[Pretty Boy]

I thought it was lightweight stuff although fairly enjoyable.

I'm not sure how much of her story I buy tbh. Do I think she was some kingpin? Of course not. Do I think she was broadly aware of what was expected of her and was she a willing participant? Almost definitely imo. That's not to say she wasn't daft and naive of course. The Peruvian prosecutor said they hear the kind of stories the two of them came up with all the time, both the forced at gunpoint fabrication and the 'real' story. She said neither are generally true.

I don't believe that shipment was ever meant to get through. It was a photo op for the Police and customs whilst a serious amount of coke passed through elsewhere. The slimy cartel lawyer almost said as much when he said the amount they had was an amount a serious player would be quite willing to risk losing.

I'm glad she's moved on with her life. She seems happy and I don't wish her any ill will. I can't be arsed with people painting drug dealers and the like, even the reformed ones, as working class heroes though. They all play their part in a system that destroys lives. I'm happy to accept they can be rehabilitated and deserve a second chance. That's as far as it goes though.

[Jay]

I dont believe most of her story, I think she had a good idea of what she was doing but not the full story, she was very young and naive thinking she was going to lead a good life with these guys. She knew she was carrying drugs but probably believed they had her well protected.

Her jail time stories I think were a bit dramatised for tv. Not sure what she could gain from doing the program other than keeping her story going. Did she write a book?

[Pretty Boy]

I dont believe most of her story, I think she had a good idea of what she was doing but not the full story, she was very young and naive thinking she was going to lead a good life with these guys. She knew she was carrying drugs but probably believed they had her well protected.

Her jail time stories I think were a bit dramatised for tv. Not sure what she could gain from doing the program other than keeping her story going. Did she write a book?

Book was released last year. She has a huge social media following. Complete with contact details for her agent for 'bookings, networking and marketing'. Go figure.

[hibee]

Didn’t watch it because I hate the way these people make money out of their crimes and have no interest in listening to her.

I believe she knew exactly what she was doing.

[CMurdoch]

Book was released last year. She has a huge social media following. Complete with contact details for her agent for 'bookings, networking and marketing'. Go figure.

All those things and the way she prospered in a heavy duty jail situation showed her as capable, manipulative and far from daft.
The Scottish girl since release appears to be keeping her head down and living a quiet life.

On a positive side I would say it would be a very good educational film to show to any young person going to live and work in the likes of Ibiza.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I thought it was lightweight stuff although fairly enjoyable.

I'm not sure how much of her story I buy tbh. Do I think she was some kingpin? Of course not. Do I think she was broadly aware of what was expected of her and was she a willing participant? Almost definitely imo. That's not to say she wasn't daft and naive of course. The Peruvian prosecutor said they hear the kind of stories the two of them came up with all the time, both the forced at gunpoint fabrication and the 'real' story. She said neither are generally true.

I don't believe that shipment was ever meant to get through. It was a photo op for the Police and customs whilst a serious amount of coke passed through elsewhere. The slimy cartel lawyer almost said as much when he said the amount they had was an amount a serious player would be quite willing to risk losing.

I'm glad she's moved on with her life. She seems happy and I don't wish her any ill will. I can't be arsed with people painting drug dealers and the like, even the reformed ones, as working class heroes though. They all play their part in a system that destroys lives. I'm happy to accept they can be rehabilitated and deserve a second chance. That's as far as it goes though.

Not a bad post PB, not too sure how you can be arsed most of the time though mate.

[HH81]

My mate at work moved down here from Scotland and went to house share with a local.

Few months in the person told him to Google her. She was an international drug smuggler and was sentence to death penalty.

The government got her out of it and she served sentence or the last of it in UK.

To be fair she learnt her lesson and I belive lived normal life after. People make mistakes.

[hibbydog]

Book was released last year. She has a huge social media following. Complete with contact details for her agent for 'bookings, networking and marketing'. Go figure.

**** sake.

Making a mistake as a daft kid is one thing, Becoming a Z list celebrity and profiting from your crime is another.

Don’t think I’ll be reading that book.

[calumhibee1]

Anyone watch this on the I player?

I found the lassie pretty despicable to be honest.

The attention seeking (‘most infamous up-do in the world’ ), the dishonesty, the lack of remorse and the bad language was a bit unbecoming for someone who was guilty of such a heinous crime.

A bit too proud of herself too. She seemed to spend too much time boasting about having the balls to smuggle drugs into South America and survive the prison sentence. Maybe better she acknowledged the crime and impact of drugs on people’s lives?

She was too quick to dismiss bad decisions as being young and stupid. Had umpteen chances to do the right thing, but didn’t.

My Mrs thinks I’m being too harsh so I’m interested in others’ opinions on this.

Cheers

Agree with all you’ve said.

Don’t think she showed any remorse and dont believe for a second she was as naive as she’s making out. She wanted to make money and wanted to make it fast and easy. Same as any other drug dealer.

Thought a lot of it was almost coming across like she was bragging.

[SChibs]

Not condoning folk breaking the law and smuggling obscene amounts of drugs across the world but the drug laws need to seriously overhauled. Yes drugs can ruin lives but so can alcohol and gambling. Keep some illegal (heroin, crack, etc), Decriminalise some (cocaine, mdma etc), legalise some (weed, magic mushrooms, etc).


There are drugs out there that are illegal that if made legal could improve people's lives and society. Chucking folk in jail for growing weed in their homes for personal use is just plain daft too

[Jamesie]

Not condoning folk breaking the law and smuggling obscene amounts of drugs across the world but the drug laws need to seriously overhauled. Yes drugs can ruin lives but so can alcohol and gambling. Keep some illegal (heroin, crack, etc), Decriminalise some (cocaine, mdma etc), legalise some (weed, magic mushrooms, etc).


There are drugs out there that are illegal that if made legal could improve people's lives and society. Chucking folk in jail for growing weed in their homes for personal use is just plain daft too

Would the decriminalisation of cocaine benefit society? I’m not convinced. I’ve yet to see it do any good for anyone.

[SChibs]

Would the decriminalisation of cocaine benefit society? I’m not convinced. I’ve yet to see it do any good for anyone.

That one was borderline illegal, decriminalised to be fair. Its a bit like alcohol where most people can use it and not take it roo far but there's a minority that will give it bad name. Cant really comment too much on it though as I have never actually taken any. I think educating people on the pros and cons of drugs is the way to go. People will use drugs whether or not they are legal so a better education is key. A lot of drugs that are used recreationally are safer than prescribed drugs, especially in America.

[Crunchie]

**** sake.

Making a mistake as a daft kid is one thing, Becoming a Z list celebrity and profiting from your crime is another.

Don’t think I’ll be reading that book.
You have to wonder at the intelligence of the muppets buying her book and following her on social media. Come to think of it the whole following thing on social media is pretty weird, I just don't get it.

[Jamesie]

That one was borderline illegal, decriminalised to be fair. Its a bit like alcohol where most people can use it and not take it roo far but there's a minority that will give it bad name. Cant really comment too much on it though as I have never actually taken any. I think educating people on the pros and cons of drugs is the way to go. People will use drugs whether or not they are legal so a better education is key. A lot of drugs that are used recreationally are safer than prescribed drugs, especially in America.

Likewise I’ve never taken it - but I’ve seen a fair few folk who have, and I’ve never seen anyone who I’d say has been the equivalent of a “good drunk” on it. Anyone who has been to a Derby at Tynecastle in the last couple of years, with young lads queuing up to use the toilet cubicles to take it, might say likewise.

[calumhibee1]

Likewise I’ve never taken it - but I’ve seen a fair few folk who have, and I’ve never seen anyone who I’d say has been the equivalent of a “good drunk” on it. Anyone who has been to a Derby at Tynecastle in the last couple of years, with young lads queuing up to use the toilet cubicles to take it, might say likewise.

Agree.

Nothing good comes from cocaine and it should absolutely remain illegal imo.

[Pretty Boy]

Agree.

Nothing good comes from cocaine and it should absolutely remain illegal imo.

I find cocaine such an odd drug in that it has a reputation as being somehow 'classy' yet it's absolutely rife among all groups in society.

I'll freely admit to dabbling in all sorts of drugs when I was younger. Primarily ecstasy/MDMA of a weekend with cannabis being a fairly regular social thing as well. I tried mephedrone, speed, acid etc etc. The only drug I couldn't get on with was cocaine. The biggest reason was that it turned me into an absolute ******** (some might say more of an ********). Things like weed can make you a bit tedious or MDMA can make you a bit of a pest but coke creates an aggression in a lot of people that wouldn't be there otherwise. You only have to witness the state and behaviour of some of the young lads at the football to see that.

The strange thing is loads of the people who told me drugs were a mugs game, you can have just as good a night out with a few drinks etc etc when I was younger are now habitual users of cocaine and in some cases it's bordering on problematic imo. Meanwhile I won't touch anything these days. As I said above I just couldn't get on with cocaine and I hate being in company with someone who is under the influence of it. They are like a coiled spring and I'm always wary they are ready to explode.

[calumhibee1]

I find cocaine such an odd drug in that it has a reputation as being somehow 'classy' yet it's absolutely rife among all groups in society.

I'll freely admit to dabbling in all sorts of drugs when I was younger. Primarily ecstasy/MDMA of a weekend with cannabis being a fairly regular social thing as well. I tried mephedrone, speed, acid etc etc. The only drug I couldn't get on with was cocaine. The biggest reason was that it turned me into an absolute ******** (some might say more of an ********). Things like weed can make you a bit tedious or MDMA can make you a bit of a pest but coke creates an aggression in a lot of people that wouldn't be there otherwise. You only have to witness the state and behaviour of some of the young lads at the football to see that.

The strange thing is loads of the people who told me drugs were a mugs game, you can have just as good a night out with a few drinks etc etc when I was younger are now habitual users of cocaine and in some cases it's bordering on problematic imo. Meanwhile I won't touch anything these days. As I said above I just couldn't get on with cocaine and I hate being in company with someone who is under the influence of it. They are like a coiled spring and I'm always wary they are ready to explode.

:agree:

I’ve never taken cocaine so I’ve no idea what it feels like for the user.

If im around people who are taking it though then I usually try and take myself out the situation as a lot of folk are ticking time bombs in it.

[SChibs]

I find cocaine such an odd drug in that it has a reputation as being somehow 'classy' yet it's absolutely rife among all groups in society.

I'll freely admit to dabbling in all sorts of drugs when I was younger. Primarily ecstasy/MDMA of a weekend with cannabis being a fairly regular social thing as well. I tried mephedrone, speed, acid etc etc. The only drug I couldn't get on with was cocaine. The biggest reason was that it turned me into an absolute ******** (some might say more of an ********). Things like weed can make you a bit tedious or MDMA can make you a bit of a pest but coke creates an aggression in a lot of people that wouldn't be there otherwise. You only have to witness the state and behaviour of some of the young lads at the football to see that.

The strange thing is loads of the people who told me drugs were a mugs game, you can have just as good a night out with a few drinks etc etc when I was younger are now habitual users of cocaine and in some cases it's bordering on problematic imo. Meanwhile I won't touch anything these days. As I said above I just couldn't get on with cocaine and I hate being in company with someone who is under the influence of it. They are like a coiled spring and I'm always wary they are ready to explode.

A lot of the substances you mentioned are relatively safe when used responsibly. It's not secret alcohol is the most damaging drug in todays society yet it is glorified in places and actively encouraged in others. Whereas drugs with less risks (weed, mdma, mushrooms) are demonised for no good reason. The blanket ban on all psychedelics is nonsense too, humans have used psychedelic plants for 10s of thousands of years yet the government decided for us 50 years ago they were all unsafe

[easty]

A lot of the substances you mentioned are relatively safe when used responsibly. It's not secret alcohol is the most damaging drug in todays society yet it is glorified in places and actively encouraged in others. Whereas drugs with less risks (weed, mdma, mushrooms) are demonised for no good reason. The blanket ban on all psychedelics is nonsense too, humans have used psychedelic plants for 10s of thousands of years yet the government decided for us 50 years ago they were all unsafe

10s of thousands of years? Have you just made that up?

What’s the responsible way of using MDMA? I’ve taken a fair amount of it in my time. It’s nothing like going out and just having alcohol.

Alcohol may well be the most damaging drug, but I don’t think the correct response to that is to make more drugs more easily available.

[SChibs]

10s of thousands of years? Have you just made that up?

What’s the responsible way of using MDMA? I’ve taken a fair amount of it in my time. It’s nothing like going out and just having alcohol.

Alcohol may well be the most damaging drug, but I don’t think the correct response to that is to make more drugs more easily available.

Indigenous tribes across the world still use psychoactive substances and have done for tens thousands of years. DMT and psylocibin for example.

The blanket ban and demonisation has led to many substances being hard to study and given a poor reputation amongst society. For example psylocibin has been shown to be effective at treating addiction, cannibas for pain, MDMA for PTSD and ketamine for depression and anxiety.

[easty]

Indigenous tribes across the world still use psychoactive substances and have done for tens thousands of years. DMT and psylocibin for example.

The blanket ban and demonisation has led to many substances being hard to study and given a poor reputation amongst society. For example psylocibin has been shown to be effective at treating addiction, cannibas for pain, MDMA for PTSD and ketamine for depression and anxiety.

I’ve no doubt there are tribes who use them. Is there evidence going back 10s of thousands of years though??

There are studies and trials into those drugs in the UK though.

[SChibs]

There are studies and trials into those drugs in the UK though.

You're right, but it's incredibly hard to get funding and it should have been done years ago. Look how long it has taken for people to start getting medical cannibas.

[Lendo]

Never understood the obsession with Coke. Whenever I had tried it on a night out it just sobered me up, so I drank more, would do a bit more Coke, sober up. Rinse and repeat.

Once took Ketamine in the Hive on a Thursday night in my mid-20s. That was awful, was still out drinking come the Sunday night and needed two days for the comedown and hangover.