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theonlywayisup
29-07-2021, 11:26 AM
I have to admit that I know very little about Ange Postecoglou, the Celtic manager, but he's gained my respect already.

In life, you always find those who are quick to blame everyone else for their failings. I'm sure you've come across many of those in your lifetime.:greengrin Then you get those who take responsibility for the situation, even if that situation has been caused by others.

After yesterday's match, Ange Postecoglou stated that he has not "done a good enough job of convincing" the club's hierarchy of the need for squad reinforcements after their Champions League exit. He also said that having an inexperienced side was not ideal, but "I still think it's my responsibility," he said after his second game in charge. He also said "I'm the person that's been put in charge and if we haven't got players in obviously I haven't done a good enough job of convincing people we need to bring people in. I don't say that because I'm some kind of martyr, I just think that's my responsibility."

He then repeated the message a few more times. "I've been trying to be as forceful as I can about what we need to bring in and the challenges we've had are well chronicled. Again maybe I wasn't clear enough - I don't know. I think I've been pretty consistent in saying that. We need more players in. The club's working hard to get those players in. Our supporters just want to see us bring the reinforcements in we need and I just need to keep reinforcing my views on it as strongly as I possibly can."

I like his style, taking responsibility, whilst everyone can see that it's the Board's fault.

Since452
29-07-2021, 11:30 AM
Hope he crashes and burns like every other Rantic manager

HendoDelivered
29-07-2021, 11:33 AM
Rangers are walking the league again this season

Sir David Gray
29-07-2021, 11:40 AM
Rangers are walking the league again this season

:agree: I'd be surprised if it's not won by the end of March.

Ringothedog
29-07-2021, 11:42 AM
:agree: I'd be surprised if it's not won by the end of March.

I am going for October

04Sauzee
29-07-2021, 11:49 AM
I am going for October

Hearts in September Rangers in October

CyberSauzee
29-07-2021, 12:04 PM
Rangers are walking the league again this season

I still live in hope we can do a Leicester

Magpie
29-07-2021, 12:07 PM
Always a pleasure watching Rangers and Celtic suffer.

Pagan Hibernia
29-07-2021, 12:13 PM
Always a pleasure watching Rangers and Celtic suffer.

usually a zero sum game sadly. One suffering means happiness and prosperity for the other

KeithTheHibby
29-07-2021, 12:18 PM
Feel a bit of a shame for the guy. Like a lamb to the slaughter whilst the faceless board hide behind him.

A disgrace (but also funny) that they never got Eddie Howe which is the main reason they are in this mess.

Reminds me a bit of when Scotland failed over a period of months to get Michael O'Neill in as manager then we ended up with second choice McLeish. Never ends well.

calumhibee1
29-07-2021, 12:27 PM
I’m not so sure about all the ‘responsibility’ he’s taking.

Very much seems like he’s suggesting “i’ll take the blame but btw it’s the boards fault for not backing me so I’m not really taking the blame.”

Anyone who’d done a bit of research would have known about Celtics biscuit tin mentality.

Suck it up Angie boy, it’s your mess now.

Hibs Class
29-07-2021, 12:49 PM
:agree: I'd be surprised if it's not won by the end of March.

More than likely, unless they go bust again before then. To that end we have to hope they also fail to qualify for CL :pray:

I'm Spartacus
29-07-2021, 12:50 PM
I did like him pulling up the BBC chimp for his over the top language to describe their exit.

I cannot believe how badly they have crashed, it's splendid viewing, when Brenda was riding high they should have been planning his top replacement then, I mean, not willing to buy McGinn is one of Scottish Footballs biggest cock ups! If they bought McGinn for the £1.75m, Branda would have turned him into a £30M profit pulling them further ahead of SevCo.

Onion
29-07-2021, 12:57 PM
I’m not so sure about all the ‘responsibility’ he’s taking.

Very much seems like he’s suggesting “i’ll take the blame but btw it’s the boards fault for not backing me so I’m not really taking the blame.”

Anyone who’d done a bit of research would have known about Celtics biscuit tin mentality.

Suck it up Angie boy, it’s your mess now.

Living in a world of make believe
Well, maybe :wink:

WeeRussell
29-07-2021, 01:12 PM
I’m not so sure about all the ‘responsibility’ he’s taking.

Very much seems like he’s suggesting “i’ll take the blame but btw it’s the boards fault for not backing me so I’m not really taking the blame.”

Anyone who’d done a bit of research would have known about Celtics biscuit tin mentality.

Suck it up Angie boy, it’s your mess now.

I think that’s essentially what the OP is saying 👍

WhileTheChief..
29-07-2021, 01:35 PM
I’m not so sure about all the ‘responsibility’ he’s taking.

Very much seems like he’s suggesting “i’ll take the blame but btw it’s the boards fault for not backing me so I’m not really taking the blame.”

Anyone who’d done a bit of research would have known about Celtics biscuit tin mentality.

Suck it up Angie boy, it’s your mess now.

Yup, that was my take on it.

The guy hasn’t got a clue. Came for the money knowing he’ll get a chunky pay off sooner rather than later then back to his life in the sun.

Andy74
29-07-2021, 01:39 PM
Yup, that was my take on it.

The guy hasn’t got a clue. Came for the money knowing he’ll get a chunky pay off sooner rather than later then back to his life in the sun.

How do you conclude so far that he hasn’t got a clue?

This isn’t his mess and there’s no way he could have addressed their issues in the few weeks he’s been there.

JXM73
29-07-2021, 01:43 PM
Celtic.net this isnt, who cares hope he fails miserably..

Phil MaGlass
29-07-2021, 01:45 PM
Hajhahahahaha, I forgot they were playing last nite, I reckon hertz will beat them as well. Why couldn't we have sellik in the first game hahaha

Smartie
29-07-2021, 01:51 PM
I did like him pulling up the BBC chimp for his over the top language to describe their exit.

I cannot believe how badly they have crashed, it's splendid viewing, when Brenda was riding high they should have been planning his top replacement then, I mean, not willing to buy McGinn is one of Scottish Footballs biggest cock ups! If they bought McGinn for the £1.75m, Branda would have turned him into a £30M profit pulling them further ahead of SevCo.

I have to say, I quite like the guy.

He's got a VERY tough job on his hands, they need to make some serious transfer moves, and soon. They were nowhere near the level they expect to be at last night and Hearts are typically jammy bar stewards to be getting them when they are.

I've grown to detest large swathes of the Scottish fitba media (meaning you hold even greater respect for the few who actually earn it) and it was great to see him giving short shrift to some ridiculous questioning without being an arse about it. It wasn't something Strachan, Rodgers, any of the others could do so long may it continue.

It's weird - I only wish failure on his club, but I've taken to this guy and find it hard to want to see him fail personally.

Irish_Steve
29-07-2021, 02:32 PM
Strewth........

LancsHibs
29-07-2021, 02:49 PM
No real respect due from me, sorry. Knows his team are poor, isn’t even guaranteed of second place. His comments were made solely to try and get the biscuit tin opened so he can buy his way to second place.
Will be gone by January and back to Ozzy fitba which is probably his level.

Billy Whizz
29-07-2021, 02:51 PM
Usually only winner when you call out the board, and it’s not the manager

A Hi-Bee
29-07-2021, 02:59 PM
I dont believe what I see on here sometimes, talk about Sympathy for the Devil.
**** Smellic and everything to do with them.
I will just keep rolling along and try and speak about the Hibs.
:thumbsup:

WhileTheChief..
29-07-2021, 03:03 PM
How do you conclude so far that he hasn’t got a clue?

This isn’t his mess and there’s no way he could have addressed their issues in the few weeks he’s been there.

I’ve listened to a lot of his interviews and just don’t think he knows what he’s talking about.

I picture the players staring at the floor when he’s speaking. I don’t see him commanding any kind of respect whatsoever from them.

GreenNWhiteArmy
29-07-2021, 03:04 PM
i only saw ET last night but it struck me how out of their depth the celtic team was. A goal behind and they couldn't get a touch of the ball. No urgency or desire to retrieve the ball and get up the park. Maybe just inexperience but i couldnt believe how poor they were

Look at the starting line up from last night, and they've got a challenge to hold on to 2nd

jacomo
29-07-2021, 04:15 PM
Usually only winner when you call out the board, and it’s not the manager


In context, Celtc took months to find a new manager and desperately need this to work. Right now the guy can say what he likes… especially as he’s right.

Celtc have loads of money and their current failures are all self-inflicted.

blackpoolhibs
29-07-2021, 04:19 PM
Respect a celtic manager, eh naw. He will happily stitch us up like the rest of them given a sniff of a chance.

Hope his next sheite is a hedgehog.

jacomo
29-07-2021, 04:25 PM
I’ve listened to a lot of his interviews and just don’t think he knows what he’s talking about.

I picture the players staring at the floor when he’s speaking. I don’t see him commanding any kind of respect whatsoever from them.


He’s got a decent cv. A better one than Eddie Howe imo. I think he’s a better fit for that job but just have to see how it turns out.

heretoday
29-07-2021, 04:55 PM
They'll get gubbed by Hearts.

HibbyDave
29-07-2021, 05:27 PM
We’re live at last!!!

WeeRussell
29-07-2021, 05:34 PM
Celtic.net this isnt, who cares hope he fails miserably..

I hate Celtic and hope he fails too. But why does it bother you that there’s a thread (clearly labelled as NHC) just like there are several other general football threads on the board.

If you really don’t care that much, then why open it and write a post to tell us how much you don’t care 🤷🏻*♂️

You’re allowed to dislike Celtic and still discuss the start their manager has made, particularly as we will be competing in the same league in a few days.

Pretty Boy
29-07-2021, 06:35 PM
A wee period of adversity might give the younger generation of Celtic fans a bit of perspective.

I genuinely had one guy tell me he was a die hard because he kept his ST during the 'Tony Mowbray era'. Mowbray was their manager for 9 months....

We are just back to how it used to be prior to 2012. Rather than one team completely dominating they take it in turns for a few years each. One teams lords it over the other whilst the other lot sack a couple of managers, the tide turns and the fans flip positions.

Irish_Steve
29-07-2021, 06:40 PM
Respect - no danger. Both sides of the Bigot Brothers can go forth and multiply as far as I`m concerned.

No idea where the Celtc love-in comes from

Eyrie
29-07-2021, 07:21 PM
I have to admit that I know very little about Ange Postecoglou, the Celtic manager, but he's gained my respect already.

In life, you always find those who are quick to blame everyone else for their failings. I'm sure you've come across many of those in your lifetime.:greengrin Then you get those who take responsibility for the situation, even if that situation has been caused by others.

After yesterday's match, Ange Postecoglou stated that he has not "done a good enough job of convincing" the club's hierarchy of the need for squad reinforcements after their Champions League exit. He also said that having an inexperienced side was not ideal, but "I still think it's my responsibility," he said after his second game in charge. He also said "I'm the person that's been put in charge and if we haven't got players in obviously I haven't done a good enough job of convincing people we need to bring people in. I don't say that because I'm some kind of martyr, I just think that's my responsibility."

He then repeated the message a few more times. "I've been trying to be as forceful as I can about what we need to bring in and the challenges we've had are well chronicled. Again maybe I wasn't clear enough - I don't know. I think I've been pretty consistent in saying that. We need more players in. The club's working hard to get those players in. Our supporters just want to see us bring the reinforcements in we need and I just need to keep reinforcing my views on it as strongly as I possibly can."

I like his style, taking responsibility, whilst everyone can see that it's the Board's fault.

Reads to me that he's blaming the Board for not backing him.

Which suits me, because that's one arse cheek that will struggle this year. Just a pity the other arse cheek will be the one to benefit.

Pagan Hibernia
29-07-2021, 08:16 PM
Respect - no danger. Both sides of the Bigot Brothers can go forth and multiply as far as I`m concerned.

No idea where the Celtc love-in comes from

celtic owe us a debt that can never be repaid. The c***s

Steve20
29-07-2021, 08:26 PM
I have no sympathy for Celtic managers.

But I wouldn’t be too quick with all this ‘Rangers will walk the league’ talk. Yes they’re definitely favourites, but I don’t think anyone seriously thought Celtic wouldn’t win the league last season and they collapsed.

It’ll be closer I think.

TelaStella
29-07-2021, 10:56 PM
Respect - no danger. Both sides of the Bigot Brothers can go forth and multiply as far as I`m concerned.

No idea where the Celtc love-in comes from

Similar to what another posted has added above, It’s just a thread on Ange Postecoglou, nothing more. In no post has there been a “love-in” for the club he manages.


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jacomo
29-07-2021, 10:57 PM
A wee period of adversity might give the younger generation of Celtic fans a bit of perspective.

I genuinely had one guy tell me he was a die hard because he kept his ST during the 'Tony Mowbray era'. Mowbray was their manager for 9 months....

We are just back to how it used to be prior to 2012. Rather than one team completely dominating they take it in turns for a few years each. One teams lords it over the other whilst the other lot sack a couple of managers, the tide turns and the fans flip positions.


Yes, maybe, but as you know the problem is that either club enjoys a spell of dominance and they forget everything that went before and assume they will be dominant forever.

I actually think this new guy is a good fit for Celtc… but will they give him the time and money to fix things?

Smartie
29-07-2021, 11:08 PM
I have no sympathy for Celtic managers.

But I wouldn’t be too quick with all this ‘Rangers will walk the league’ talk. Yes they’re definitely favourites, but I don’t think anyone seriously thought Celtic wouldn’t win the league last season and they collapsed.

It’ll be closer I think.

My Celtic-supporting mate said to me last night that it wouldn't surprise him if the board at Celtic were prioritising the league this season so they were maybe a bit cooler than normal at being knocked out of Europe.

Winning the league next season gets you straight into the group stages of the Champions league, then you've got the usual tedious bun fight rubbish with the huns.

Sounded like pish excuses to me, but I've heard of stranger things.

They need players in though, and they need them quick. The 3 points they're playing for at the weekend are worth as many as the points they're playing for at the end of the season.

They're definitely at "the end of a cycle" though and need to do some serious rebuilding.

Nicho87
29-07-2021, 11:19 PM
Celtic have had it easy for the last 9 years.

They have a generation of fans not knowing what defeat is. Welcome to the real world.

WeeRussell
30-07-2021, 10:55 AM
Respect - no danger. Both sides of the Bigot Brothers can go forth and multiply as far as I`m concerned.

No idea where the Celtc love-in comes from

I’ve no idea where it is? Do you know hibs fans that love Celtic?

jacomo
30-07-2021, 02:37 PM
I have no sympathy for Celtic managers.

But I wouldn’t be too quick with all this ‘Rangers will walk the league’ talk. Yes they’re definitely favourites, but I don’t think anyone seriously thought Celtic wouldn’t win the league last season and they collapsed.

It’ll be closer I think.


:agree:

Not So Young
30-07-2021, 03:51 PM
I have to admit that I know very little about Ange Postecoglou, the Celtic manager, but he's gained my respect already.

In life, you always find those who are quick to blame everyone else for their failings. I'm sure you've come across many of those in your lifetime.:greengrin Then you get those who take responsibility for the situation, even if that situation has been caused by others.

After yesterday's match, Ange Postecoglou stated that he has not "done a good enough job of convincing" the club's hierarchy of the need for squad reinforcements after their Champions League exit. He also said that having an inexperienced side was not ideal, but "I still think it's my responsibility," he said after his second game in charge. He also said "I'm the person that's been put in charge and if we haven't got players in obviously I haven't done a good enough job of convincing people we need to bring people in. I don't say that because I'm some kind of martyr, I just think that's my responsibility."

He then repeated the message a few more times. "I've been trying to be as forceful as I can about what we need to bring in and the challenges we've had are well chronicled. Again maybe I wasn't clear enough - I don't know. I think I've been pretty consistent in saying that. We need more players in. The club's working hard to get those players in. Our supporters just want to see us bring the reinforcements in we need and I just need to keep reinforcing my views on it as strongly as I possibly can."

I like his style, taking responsibility, whilst everyone can see that it's the Board's fault.


I agree with this

I saw part of the BBC interview and thought he's not allowing the BBC to over hype the poor result and then he did not allow them to drag him into a blame game

He said something like no ones to blame but I am responsible

EI255
30-07-2021, 03:57 PM
Rangers are walking the league again this seasonSadly, yes.

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EI255
30-07-2021, 03:58 PM
Celtic have had it easy for the last 9 years.

They have a generation of fans not knowing what defeat is. Welcome to the real world.Wasn't really their fans fault.

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calumhibee1
30-07-2021, 04:02 PM
I have no sympathy for Celtic managers.

But I wouldn’t be too quick with all this ‘Rangers will walk the league’ talk. Yes they’re definitely favourites, but I don’t think anyone seriously thought Celtic wouldn’t win the league last season and they collapsed.

It’ll be closer I think.

To be fair it can be significantly closer and Rangers could still walk it. They won it by 25 points, you could half the difference and it would still be a walk in the park.

I do think it will be closer but more because I don’t think Rangers can be quite as good again. Not because I see Celtic improving. They look worse than ever and I can see this new guy being a total dud.

hibbydog
30-07-2021, 05:58 PM
I can see Celtic getting off to a very slow start then recovering to finish second.

But I’ll stop short of feeling sorry for their ‘it’s my responsibility but not my fault’ manager. He’s getting paid handsomely and whatever the outcome, he’ll walk away from this a millionaire.

They are not Hibs so I couldn’t really give a rats ass about them or their entitled fans.

Since452
30-07-2021, 05:59 PM
I can see Celtic getting off to a very slow start then recovering to finish second.

But I’ll stop short of feeling sorry for their ‘it’s my responsibility but not my fault’ manager. He’s getting paid handsomely and whatever the outcome, he’ll walk away from this a millionaire.

They are not Hibs so I couldn’t really give a rats ass about them or their entitled fans.

They'll still finished 2nd by a distance. Us and Aberdeen will drop too many points over the season to realistically challenge them.

ChicoM1875
30-07-2021, 06:01 PM
No respect for anything celticy. Cheers

Viva_Palmeiras
30-07-2021, 07:55 PM
Is it just me or does anyone pronouncing his name sound like they’re not too sure they got it right? No two people sound like they pronounce it the same way.