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Juniper Greens
19-07-2021, 08:28 AM
Confirmed that we get one of
Gizra (mal) / rijeka (cro)
Pacos (por)
Gent (bel) / valerenga (nor)
Drita (boz) / feyenoord (ned)

As a follower of Portuguese football. That's the tie we want. Outside the top 4 or 5 in Portugal, I really don't rate the league at all

PatHead
19-07-2021, 08:30 AM
Bet we get Feyenoord and are up against Rocky. What time is the draw?

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 08:31 AM
Confirmed that we get one of
Gizra (mal) / rijeka (cro)
Pacos (por)
Gent (bel) / valerenga (nor)
Drita (boz) / feyenoord (ned)

As a follower of Portuguese football. That's the tie we want. Outside the top 4 or 5 in Portugal, I really don't rate the league at all

Are these teams above all seeded against us?

Souter96Mac
19-07-2021, 08:31 AM
Suspect the Portuguese team would give us the best chance to progress. However the slight benefit of drawing Gent or Feyenoord would be that we would be then seeded for the Playoff round - should we manage to beat them..

All ifs and buts I appreciate

Juniper Greens
19-07-2021, 08:32 AM
Suspect the Portuguese team would give us the best chance to progress. However the slight benefit of drawing Gent or Feyenoord would be that we would be then seeded for the Playoff round - should we manage to beat them..

All ifs and buts I appreciate

Yep. That's a great point.

Juniper Greens
19-07-2021, 08:33 AM
Are these teams above all seeded against us?

The better team in each pairing is why they are seeded. Obviously the Maltese team for instance aren't a higher seed that us

davhibby
19-07-2021, 08:34 AM
Are these teams above all seeded against us?

Yes.

If we get Gent or Feyenoord then we’d use their coefficient for the playoff draw and be seeded. Obviously that’s the two hardest games though

SHODAN
19-07-2021, 08:35 AM
It's destiny that we're going to get Marciano and Feyenoord. The one upside is we could give him the show of appreciation denied to us last season.

Walter
19-07-2021, 08:36 AM
Let's get through our immediate tie first

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 08:37 AM
Yes.

If we get Gent or Feyenoord then we’d use their coefficient for the playoff draw and be seeded. Obviously that’s the two hardest games though

Just noticed the Belgium season starts this weekend, and the Dutch a week or so after us

PatHead
19-07-2021, 08:38 AM
It's destiny that we're going to get Marciano and Feyenoord. The one upside is we could give him the show of appreciation denied to us last season.

Not fussy about a show of appreciation. We don't owe him anything. We were good for him, he was good for us but at the end of the day he chose to leave for nothing. Would rather get an easy draw.

jonny
19-07-2021, 08:43 AM
Just noticed the Belgium season starts this weekend, and the Dutch a week or so after us

Yeah, Croatia have already started (played 1 game) and Portugal are this weekend as well.
A couple of extra competitive games might make a bit of a difference but shouldn't be the difference between winning and losing.
If the Norwegian team get through then that might be a bit different because they're a good month in front of us

CapitalGreen
19-07-2021, 08:45 AM
Let's get through our immediate tie first

Nothing to worry about, will be a walk in the park.

Juniper Greens
19-07-2021, 08:57 AM
Dare I say it...Gent don't look like world beaters....and they have a high coefficient. Like others have said, getting them might not be awful, we'd have some sort of chance and would get to be seeded for the PO round

NORTHERNHIBBY
19-07-2021, 09:32 AM
Nothing to worry about, will be a walk in the park.


Perhaps the only risk is complacency.

norhfc
19-07-2021, 10:01 AM
Yeah, Croatia have already started (played 1 game) and Portugal are this weekend as well.
A couple of extra competitive games might make a bit of a difference but shouldn't be the difference between winning and losing.
If the Norwegian team get through then that might be a bit different because they're a good month in front of us

The Norwegian league have played 14 games, Vålerenga are currently 5th with 22 points from 14 games. Scandinavia teams always have this advantage over us. Still hope we get them as I would travel to see the game.

PatHead
19-07-2021, 10:09 AM
What time is the draw?

Big_Franck
19-07-2021, 10:27 AM
What time is the draw?

1pm today. Next round is played on 5th and 12th August.

04Sauzee
19-07-2021, 10:28 AM
Champions League draw 🏆

@RangersFC v Malmo or Helsinki
@CelticFC or FC Midtjylland v PSV Einhoven or Galatasaray

lord bunberry
19-07-2021, 10:41 AM
Champions League draw 🏆

@RangersFC v Malmo or Helsinki
@CelticFC or FC Midtjylland v PSV Einhoven or Galatasaray
I thought the huns were straight into the group stages this season.

nonshinyfinish
19-07-2021, 10:45 AM
I thought the huns were straight into the group stages this season.

Currently only the top 11 leagues get direct access to the CL groups (see https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2021.html). Scotland are 14th.

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 10:47 AM
Champions League draw 🏆

@RangersFC v Malmo or Helsinki
@CelticFC or FC Midtjylland v PSV Einhoven or Galatasaray

Good draw for Rangers, tough one for Celtic if they beat the Danish team

andrew70
19-07-2021, 10:51 AM
I thought the huns were straight into the group stages this season.

Next season the champions go straight in i think.

lord bunberry
19-07-2021, 10:54 AM
Currently only the top 11 leagues get direct access to the CL groups (see https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2021.html). Scotland are 14th.


Next season the champions go straight in i think.
Thanks.

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 10:55 AM
Perhaps the only risk is complacency.

Indeed. :greengrin

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 10:56 AM
Good draw for Rangers, tough one for Celtic if they beat the Danish team

Are Malmo Swedish champions? Would have thought they would be a tough match up.

CentreLine
19-07-2021, 11:00 AM
First impressions are the The Rangers go through and Celtic are toast 🤔

flash
19-07-2021, 11:17 AM
What a draw for St Johnstone. PSV or Galatasaray.

JohnM1875
19-07-2021, 11:22 AM
What a draw for St Johnstone. PSV or Galatasaray.

Get pumped by either team.

PatHead
19-07-2021, 11:27 AM
1pm today. Next round is played on 5th and 12th August.

Thanks.

overdrive
19-07-2021, 11:29 AM
Just me that's confused how Celtic and St Johnstone have drawn the same teams?

Edit: never mind, I guess Celtic would play the winners and St Johnstone would play the losers

JXM73
19-07-2021, 11:30 AM
Just me that's confused how Celtic and St Johnstone have drawn the same teams?

Loser drops to Europa...

peterharrogate
19-07-2021, 11:31 AM
Get pumped by either team.

Celtic rather than St Johnstone. St J are starting in the playoff round.

JohnM1875
19-07-2021, 11:33 AM
Celtic rather than St Johnstone. St J are starting in the playoff round.

St Johnstone play the losers of PSV - Galatasaray. Celtic play the winner.

Reckon either team easily beats St Johnstone.

CallumLaidlaw
19-07-2021, 11:57 AM
Celtic rather than St Johnstone. St J are starting in the playoff round.

Nah Saints are in a round before the playoffs.


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Silky
19-07-2021, 11:59 AM
Confirmed that we get one of
Gizra (mal) / rijeka (cro)
Pacos (por)
Gent (bel) / valerenga (nor)
Drita (boz) / feyenoord (ned)

As a follower of Portuguese football. That's the tie we want. Outside the top 4 or 5 in Portugal, I really don't rate the league at all

Och well, never mind! We can focus on the season instead!

St Pauli Hibee
19-07-2021, 11:59 AM
Teams we can draw

Drita (Kos) v Feyenoord (Ned)
Gent (Bel) v Valarenga (Nor)
Gzira Utd (Mta) v Rijeka (Cro)
Pacos De Ferreira (Por)

cabbageandribs1875
19-07-2021, 12:02 PM
Gies Gzira

Hibs90
19-07-2021, 12:03 PM
Teams we can draw

Drita (Kos) v Feyenoord (Ned)
Gent (Bel) v Valarenga (Nor)
Gzira Utd (Mta) v Rijeka (Cro)
Pacos De Ferreira (Por)

So realistically it'll probably be either Feyenoord/Valarenga or Gent/Rijeka as the teams who go through and those would be pretty tough games. Ah well.

JohnM1875
19-07-2021, 12:06 PM
So realistically it'll probably be either Feyenoord/Valarenga/Rijeka as the teams who go through and those would be pretty tough games. Ah well.

Feyenoord fair enough, but we definitely have a good chance of beating any of the other teams if you ask me.

Jim Herriot
19-07-2021, 12:12 PM
Draw streamed at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IuQr5ZEys4

Hibs90
19-07-2021, 12:15 PM
Feyenoord fair enough, but we definitely have a good chance of beating any of the other teams if you ask me.

Maybe so but they are no mugs and it'll be tough.

SteveHFC
19-07-2021, 12:15 PM
Gzira Utd (Mta) or Rijeka (Cro)

It is.

number9dream
19-07-2021, 12:15 PM
Aberdeen get Austria Vienna or a team from Iceland if they beat Hacken.

nonshinyfinish
19-07-2021, 12:15 PM
Gzira or Rijeka

Jim Herriot
19-07-2021, 12:16 PM
Hibs or Santa Coloma v Gzira Utd (Mta) or Rijeka (Cro)

CapitalGreen
19-07-2021, 12:17 PM
Good draw 👍

MagicSwirlingShip
19-07-2021, 12:17 PM
Croatia away sounds nice!

cabbageandribs1875
19-07-2021, 12:17 PM
telt yi


Gies Gzira

patlowe
19-07-2021, 12:17 PM
If we get through, Rijeka is very tough but not impossible.

JohnM1875
19-07-2021, 12:18 PM
That's a decent draw. Win that then it's the play-off round right? So many qualifiers.

Hibernian Verse
19-07-2021, 12:18 PM
Rijeka will be a good side but Maltese teams are known for upsets in European ties :greengrin

nonshinyfinish
19-07-2021, 12:18 PM
If I've understood correctly, that means we won't be seeded if we make it as far as the play-off round.

bigwheel
19-07-2021, 12:20 PM
Croatia will be hot this time of year ..could be easily 30 degrees

overdrive
19-07-2021, 12:24 PM
I was hoping we’d be drawn away first. I can’t make the 5th.

Bristolhibby
19-07-2021, 12:25 PM
Croatia will be hot this time of year ..could be easily 30 degrees

It’s 30° in Bristol!

J

1875Sean
19-07-2021, 12:26 PM
Rijeka Beat Aberdeen 2-0 twice in 2019 so will be a hard game

Souter96Mac
19-07-2021, 12:31 PM
Rijeka have Josep Drmic on loan from Norwich, 10 goals in 35 for Switzerland.

My old man
19-07-2021, 12:31 PM
So just checked

Malta 🇲🇹 and Croatia 🇭🇷 are both on the UK green list

Might check bookies to see who’s favourites and book flights
GG2TH

nonshinyfinish
19-07-2021, 12:34 PM
So just checked

Malta 🇲🇹 and Croatia 🇭🇷 are both on the UK green list

Might check bookies to see who’s favourites and book flights
GG2TH

Would be a big shock if the Maltese team go through I think.

CapitalGreen
19-07-2021, 12:36 PM
So just checked

Malta 🇲🇹 and Croatia 🇭🇷 are both on the UK green list

Might check bookies to see who’s favourites and book flights
GG2TH

Only direct Edinburgh to Croatia flights are to Dubrovnik which is 600km away.

JeMeSouviens
19-07-2021, 12:37 PM
Only direct Edinburgh to Croatia flights are to Dubrovnik which is 600km away.

Venice would be a good bit closer.

Sir David Gray
19-07-2021, 12:37 PM
So just checked

Malta 🇲🇹 and Croatia 🇭🇷 are both on the UK green list

Might check bookies to see who’s favourites and book flights
GG2TH

I'd imagine Rijeka will win that one comfortably.

MagicSwirlingShip
19-07-2021, 12:38 PM
Venice would be a good bit closer.

Have flew to Venice before when visiting Croatia.

hibeedonald
19-07-2021, 12:39 PM
The hot weather is a huge disadvantage in itself. Hopefully get lucky with it.

bigwheel
19-07-2021, 12:40 PM
It’s 30° in Bristol!

J

Yep. Lol. But not all summer ….

Chorley Hibee
19-07-2021, 12:44 PM
So just checked

Malta 🇲🇹 and Croatia 🇭🇷 are both on the UK green list

Might check bookies to see who’s favourites and book flights
GG2TH

Already on it.

Best bets are Pula, Zagreb and Ljubljana (Slovenia) for reaching Rijeka from a UK airport.

Nothing direct to Rijeka around the time of the game unfortunately.

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 12:47 PM
The hot weather is a huge disadvantage in itself. Hopefully get lucky with it.

Pretty much a cert to be 30 degrees minimum. Obviously later in the day will help but will be very hot whatever.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rijeka+weather&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

DIXIHIBS
19-07-2021, 12:49 PM
Already on it.

Best bets are Pula, Zagreb and Ljubljana (Slovenia) for reaching Rijeka from a UK airport.

Nothing direct to Rijeka around the time of the game unfortunately.
Ljubljana is a good shout. Been there a couple of times with scotland. Lovely place and should be able to get train down to Rijeka.

oneone73
19-07-2021, 12:49 PM
Uefa have banned away fans in qualifying and playoff rounds, remember. Might get a ticket in the home end, I suppose. Wouldn't fancy that in Croatia though.

Nicho87
19-07-2021, 12:49 PM
They won the league 4 years ago

Proper toughie that one

davhibby
19-07-2021, 12:57 PM
Probably the best draw we could’ve had of the 4. A shame the first leg is at home as we would’ve (hopefully) been able to have a good crowd in if the game was after the 9th

SHODAN
19-07-2021, 12:59 PM
That's ok.

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 01:00 PM
Jet 2 fly to Pula in normal times

1875Sean
19-07-2021, 01:10 PM
Jet 2 fly to Pula in normal times

Yeah I flew there and stayed in opatija on holiday in 2019, nice town and was able to get a bus into Rijeka

Nakedmanoncrack
19-07-2021, 01:29 PM
They won the league 4 years ago

Proper toughie that one

We are very unlikely to progress from this one unfortunately.

vercol36
19-07-2021, 01:30 PM
Sorry folks, for the idiots among us (myself included) what happens if we then beat Rijeka? I.E. how many rounds of qualifying are there?

Sir David Gray
19-07-2021, 01:31 PM
Sorry folks, for the idiots among us (myself included) what happens if we then beat Rijeka? I.E. how many rounds of qualifying are there?

We then go into the play offs and then if we win that round we'll be in the group stages.

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 01:31 PM
Sorry folks, for the idiots among us (myself included) what happens if we then beat Rijeka? I.E. how many rounds of qualifying are there?

One more to get to group stage unfortunately even if we win we will be unseeded so potentially very tough.

DIXIHIBS
19-07-2021, 01:39 PM
One more to get to group stage unfortunately even if we win we will be unseeded so potentially very tough.
According to uefa website the winners of tie involving Rijeka seeding is unconfirmed so we may be seeded...i think.

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 01:44 PM
Yeah I flew there and stayed in opatija on holiday in 2019, nice town and was able to get a bus into Rijeka

Will be really hot at this time of year too

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 01:54 PM
According to uefa website the winners of tie involving Rijeka seeding is unconfirmed so we may be seeded...i think.

Hope so

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 01:57 PM
We are very unlikely to progress from this one unfortunately.

Not so sure Aberdeen have beaten and lost to them in last 5 years or so. Lost couple of years back when playing first leg with 10 men for 70 mins. Think we should be competitive but they will be tough especially given they have started league season also. We have a chance but will need to be good.

WhileTheChief..
19-07-2021, 02:16 PM
Venice would be a good bit closer.

I went to a Scotland Croatia game years ago and flew into Rimini.

Stayed a night there, then Venice, then train on to Zagreb.

Was fantastic, everything about it. Would love to go back.

.Sean.
19-07-2021, 02:21 PM
Why is everyone so doom and gloom. It’s Rijeka. A team from Croatia. No Real Madrid

:flag:

AliboyFC
19-07-2021, 02:29 PM
Why is everyone so doom and gloom. It’s Rijeka. A team from Croatia. No Real Madrid

:flag:

They have round about the same squad value than us. It will be tough but I think we will win that.

.Sean.
19-07-2021, 02:31 PM
What date is the away leg? Me and the missus were planning on going away some time in August and had just planned a wee easy trip to Blackpool for a couple days or something. Then realised Croatia was on the green list and showed her Rijeka, explained it’ll be a trip on the bevvy amd scorching, and funnily enough she seems quite keen.

Fergus52
19-07-2021, 02:36 PM
According to uefa website the winners of tie involving Rijeka seeding is unconfirmed so we may be seeded...i think.

Impossible for Rijeka to be seeded in the play off.

The minimum club coefficient to have any chance of being seeded in that round is 17.5, Rijeka's is only around 10/11.

nonshinyfinish
19-07-2021, 02:51 PM
Impossible for Rijeka to be seeded in the play off.

The minimum club coefficient to have any chance of being seeded in that round is 17.5, Rijeka's is only around 10/11.

Bert Kassies has it listed as 13.5, but I think you're still correct – it's not high enough for them (or us if we beat them) to be seeded in the play-off round.

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 02:56 PM
What date is the away leg? Me and the missus were planning on going away some time in August and had just planned a wee easy trip to Blackpool for a couple days or something. Then realised Croatia was on the green list and showed her Rijeka, explained it’ll be a trip on the bevvy amd scorching, and funnily enough she seems quite keen.

Thursday 12 August

.Sean.
19-07-2021, 03:02 PM
Thursday 12 August
Cheers. Having a wee scan the now, no real ‘easy’ way of getting there it seems

JimBHibees
19-07-2021, 04:14 PM
Cheers. Having a wee scan the now, no real ‘easy’ way of getting there it seems

Some have mentioned flying to Venice or llubjana not sure what status of flight guidance is to these places

Crazyhorse
19-07-2021, 05:22 PM
Croatia away sounds nice!

Was hoping for Gent because I love the place but Croatia will be great 👍

.Sean.
19-07-2021, 06:04 PM
The away end at the place is a barbed wire cage, so I’m assuming the home end will be a no go - anyone know if Hibs will get an official allocation?

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 06:07 PM
The away end at the place is a barbed wire cage, so I’m assuming the home end will be a no go - anyone know if Hibs will get an official allocation?

Away fans aren’t allowed in the qualifying rounds, uefa decision

Mantis Toboggan
19-07-2021, 06:35 PM
Thursday 12 August

Is thia confirmed?

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 06:38 PM
Is thia confirmed?

No but it shows Hibs as the home team if we get through
In my opinion only thing it would reverse it, would be if there was a game in close proximity the same night

.Sean.
19-07-2021, 06:56 PM
Away fans aren’t allowed in the qualifying rounds, uefa decision
Puts a bit of a spanner in the works then

Iggy Pope
19-07-2021, 07:08 PM
Why is everyone so doom and gloom. It’s Rijeka. A team from Croatia. No Real Madrid

:flag:

Look up Hadjuk Split!!!! :greengrin

calumhibee1
19-07-2021, 07:10 PM
Away fans aren’t allowed in the qualifying rounds, uefa decision

Do we know if that includes the playoff?

If it does then we’ll be doing well to get as far as the group so it’ll be unlikely we’ll get an away trip.

Billy Whizz
19-07-2021, 07:13 PM
Do we know if that includes the playoff?

If it does then we’ll be doing well to get as far as the group so it’ll be unlikely we’ll get an away trip.

The original statement from uefa was, fans from the Group stages only

Sir David Gray
19-07-2021, 07:44 PM
Do we know if that includes the playoff?

If it does then we’ll be doing well to get as far as the group so it’ll be unlikely we’ll get an away trip.

Away fans are banned from attending all UEFA tournaments in the qualifying and play off rounds.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/026a-1287048dd5e8-a23a8a616dd7-1000/final_memo_annex_i_and_away_supporters_exco_090620 21.pdf

King Cosell
19-07-2021, 08:35 PM
Let's not rule out Gzira United, they might be quite tasty. They've got a few Brazilians players and a few other South Americans. Knocked out Hajduk Split in 2019/20.

Chorley Hibee
19-07-2021, 10:13 PM
The away end at the place is a barbed wire cage, so I’m assuming the home end will be a no go - anyone know if Hibs will get an official allocation?

I watched Rijeka play Hajduk Split in 2017 (day before my wedding in Croatia).

Let's just say it was quite a tasty atmosphere.

If Hibees do head over, I wouldn't be making yourselves that noticeable.