Ryder Cup 2021

[theonlywayisup]

Only three months to go until the 2021 Ryder Cup starts on the 24th September. As in previous years, it's going to be very interesting to see who makes the team.

As of 23rd June, the latest standings are:

European Points List


1. Jon Rahm – 8,516
2. Tommy Fleetwood – 4,999
3. Tyrrell Hatton – 4,861
4. Rory McIlroy – 4,418

World Points List


1. Paul Casey – 266.25
2. Viktor Hovland – 245.06
3. Lee Westwood – 232.48
4. Matthew Fitzpatrick – 213.76
5. Victor Perez – 187.37


Others close by include Bernd Wiesberger, Guido Migliozzi, Robert MacIntyre, Shane Lowry, Justin Rose, Sergio Garcia, Danny Willett and Ian Poulter.

Team looking pretty strong already. No Molinari nor Stenson in the top 10 in either European or World List and don't think they are playing well enough to merit a pick. But all can and will change over the summer.

[theonlywayisup]

Latest automatic team selection below, being a mix of Euro list and World list.

Jon Rahm
Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland
Paul Casey
Tyrrell Hatton
Matt Fitzpatrick
Lee Westwood
Tommy Fleetwood
Shane Lowry

Then three picks - you would think Poulter and maybe Rose would get picks. As always, looks a strong team, but think they'll struggle in the USA.

[hibeg]

I see that Bob Macintyre is playing the next 3 tournaments in the USA on the 2nd tier Korn Ferry tour as he is trying to get his tour card for next season. Looks like he will miss the cut in the first one 👎
He may be confident that he will get one of the captains picks!
Risky strategy I think

[stantonhibby]

Latest automatic team selection below, being a mix of Euro list and World list.

Jon Rahm
Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland
Paul Casey
Tyrrell Hatton
Matt Fitzpatrick
Lee Westwood
Tommy Fleetwood
Shane Lowry

Then three picks - you would think Poulter and maybe Rose would get picks. As always, looks a strong team, but think they'll struggle in the USA.

Poulter,Rose and Garcia will prob get the picks imo.

[Tobias Funke]

Poulter,Rose and Garcia will prob get the picks imo.

Poulter is a no brainer, Rose I’d definitely pick too. Garcia I’m not so sure about.

[Dalianwanda]

I see that Bob Macintyre is playing the next 3 tournaments in the USA on the 2nd tier Korn Ferry tour as he is trying to get his tour card for next season. Looks like he will miss the cut in the first one ��
He may be confident that he will get one of the captains picks!
Risky strategy I think

Personally I think he will get a captains pick but he had a mare yesterday if I was looking at the right leaderboard. However formidable the USA teamlooksI think ours is shaping up very nicely.

[theonlywayisup]

Poulter is a no brainer, Rose I’d definitely pick too. Garcia I’m not so sure about.

Agree! I'm sure I read that Harrington and Garcia don't get on, so a Captain's Pick looks unlikely to me.

[Tobias Funke]

Agree! I'm sure I read that Harrington and Garcia don't get on, so a Captain's Pick looks unlikely to me.

Yeah read that too, also Garcia hasn’t been in great form recently, now out of the worlds top 50. Albeit a rookie I’d rather give someone with a bit of form a chance like Perez.

Harrington could try F Molinari and see if he and Fleetwood can rediscover that Paris magic but kind of defeats my argument against Garcia and his form, he’s slipped to outside the worlds top 150. Think he missed a lot of golf due to the pandemic.

[Tobias Funke]

Slightly off topic but didn’t want to start a new thread, Scotlands Louise Duncan is well placed for the final round of the Womens Open. Amateur Champion and only 21, she’s played amazing first three days and only two off the lead!

Would be an incredible achievement for her, it’s a tightly packed leaderboard so she will need to fight hard to win.

[theonlywayisup]

US team taking shape with six automatic picks confirmed:

Collin Morikawa
Dustin Johnson
Bryson DeChambeau
Brooks Koepka
Justin Thomas
Patrick Cantlay

Other likely Captain's picks likely to be:

Tony Finau a
Xander Schauffele
Jordan Spieth
Harris English

Leaving another two picks.

Strong team as expected.

[IWasThere2016]

US team taking shape with six automatic picks confirmed:

Collin Morikawa
Dustin Johnson
Bryson DeChambeau
Brooks Koepka
Justin Thomas
Patrick Cantlay

Other likely Captain's picks likely to be:

Tony Finau a
Xander Schauffele
Jordan Spieth
Harris English

Leaving another two picks.

Strong team as expected.

Winners

[mayo hibee]

I see that Bob Macintyre is playing the next 3 tournaments in the USA on the 2nd tier Korn Ferry tour as he is trying to get his tour card for next season. Looks like he will miss the cut in the first one 👎
He may be confident that he will get one of the captains picks!
Risky strategy I think

I would have said it's more likely that he has just given up on it this time around to be honest. I can't see him being near a captains pick, they're generally held back for experienced Ryder Cup players and major winners.

[greenlex]

Winners

Not so sure Dustin Johnston, Bryson de Chambeau. Brooks Koepka and now Patrick Cantlay all have history with each other. If Patrick Reed makes it that’s about half the team at war with each other.

[Smartie]

Not so sure Dustin Johnston, Bryson de Chambeau. Brooks Koepka and now Patrick Cantlay all have history with each other. If Patrick Reed makes it that’s about half the team at war with each other.

It'll be fascinating to watch.

America clearly have the better players but as you say, there are plenty of egos and personal problems between those players.

In a game that relies so much on temperament, I think you need decent chemistry between players and the Europeans seem to always have that.

It was quite the collapse from Weisberger on Sunday. You had to feel sorry for him because one hole may end up costing him his only chance of ever playing in the Ryder Cup.

[blackpoolhibs]

Bryson de Chambeau and Brooks Koepka

That's a pairing i'd love to see. :wink:

[hibeg]

I would have said it's more likely that he has just given up on it this time around to be honest. I can't see him being near a captains pick, they're generally held back for experienced Ryder Cup players and major winners.

I would disagree Mayo. His record over the last couple of years in majors and regular events was outstanding. He never even missed a cut this season. He played with Harrington and Karlsson numerous times as they were keeping an eye on him.
In saying that, his form has disappeared at the wrong time. He has missed the last 2 cuts on the Korn Ferry tour and I see he is now not playing in the final event this week, or the Italian Open in Europe.
All very weird !

[greenlex]

It'll be fascinating to watch.

America clearly have the better players but as you say, there are plenty of egos and personal problems between those players.

In a game that relies so much on temperament, I think you need decent chemistry between players and the Europeans seem to always have that.

It was quite the collapse from Weisberger on Sunday. You had to feel sorry for him because one hole may end up costing him his only chance of ever playing in the Ryder Cup.
I think Weisberger might get the nod. Depends on the Wentworth result but he’s as good a pick as Bob or other players not really performing.

[greenlex]

I would disagree Mayo. His record over the last couple of years in majors and regular events was outstanding. He never even missed a cut this season. He played with Harrington and Karlsson numerous times as they were keeping an eye on him.
In saying that, his form has disappeared at the wrong time. He has missed the last 2 cuts on the Korn Ferry tour and I see he is now not playing in the final event this week, or the Italian Open in Europe.
All very weird !
He is resting up and hoping To do enough at Wentworth. I don’t think he will.

[Smartie]

I think Weisberger might get the nod. Depends on the Wentworth result but he’s as good a pick as Bob or other players not really performing.

He's got another couple of cracks at winning an event and might nudge his way in. Can you see a captain picking a player to play in a pressure environment when he's so recently choked and double bogeyed the last to chuck his chances of automatic qualification though?

With the American team, you're mainly looking at which 4 or 5 strong candidates you leave out.

Europe seem to be one player short due to several playing themselves out of contention in recent weeks.

Stenson is the only one who has probably been looking like not making it to have picked up in recent weeks, but I don't know if a Ryder Cup in America is a place for someone who won't/ can't hit their driver.

[hibeg]

He is resting up and hoping To do enough at Wentworth. I don’t think he will.


Resting up ? He has hardly played competitively in the last 3 weeks ( 4 rounds).
Personally thought he should have stayed in Europe instead of trying to get his USTour card.
I agree with you, I can’t see him doing enough at Wentworth to qualify now.

[greenlex]

He's got another couple of cracks at winning an event and might nudge his way in. Can you see a captain picking a player to play in a pressure environment when he's so recently choked and double bogeyed the last to chuck his chances of automatic qualification though?

With the American team, you're mainly looking at which 4 or 5 strong candidates you leave out.

Europe seem to be one player short due to several playing themselves out of contention in recent weeks.

Stenson is the only one who has probably been looking like not making it to have picked up in recent weeks, but I don't know if a Ryder Cup in America is a place for someone who won't/ can't hit their driver.
He’s got plenty in the bank regards getting it over the line. He will be a consideration.

[theonlywayisup]

Good start by Europe in the ladies version - leading 5.5 to 2.5 after day one, albeit the US aided by a controversial moment in the top fourball match.

[mayo hibee]

Great effort from the ladies to win the Solheim away from home, similar to the men in terms of world rankings they should have been well beaten. 4.5 points by Leona Maguire on debut was especially impressive.

Seems like Poulter, Garcia and Rose will be the three wild card picks for the Ryder Cup if the expected nine qualify automatically.

[3pm]

US team announced.

[Smartie]

US team announced.

No Patrick Reed? Big call.

When he was ill with bilateral pneumonia the Ryder Cup seemed a long way off but he got back to playing again at the weekend there.

The Americans aren't exactly short of good players, but Reed would always be somebody you'd expect them to find a space for.

[3pm]

No Patrick Reed? Big call.

When he was ill with bilateral pneumonia the Ryder Cup seemed a long way off but he got back to playing again at the weekend there.

The Americans aren't exactly short of good players, but Reed would always be somebody you'd expect them to find a space for.

Not sure he is that popular. Had a moan at Spieth back in 2018 and by extension, Furyk.

[theonlywayisup]

One of the interesting aspects of this Ryder Cup will be the relationship between Bryson DeChambeau and Brooks Koepka. They really do hate each other. I'd imagine it'll get nasty if the US don't win and their row is deemed to have affected team morale.

Bryson DeChambeau & Brooks Koepka row: Fans face expulsion if they shout 'Brooksie' - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/58408276)

Maybe it will be in the US best interests if BK has to pull out due to injury.

[mayo hibee]

Wiesberger gets into the automatic spots ahead of Lowry. So now it looks like three from four for the wildcards with one missing out from Garcia, Rose, Lowry and Poulter. On form Poulter should be the one to miss out but Harrington has said previously he was likely to pick Garcia and Poulter. If he sticks to that then either Rose or Lowry would miss out.

Bringing Poulter, but as a vice captain, might be one way to pick them all.

[mayo hibee]

Garcia, Lowry and Poulter get the picks. Rose the one to miss out.

[theonlywayisup]

One week to go and I can't wait. I always look at the teams and think the American's have the stronger team, but they rarely seem to play to their individual strengths. Again, this year, I think it'll go down to a few key matches that could swing either way. The fact that there will be 99% of the fans cheering the US should tip it in their favour, but let's hope that's not the case.

US Team:
Collin Morikawa
Dustin Johnson
Bryson DeChambeau
Brooks Koepka
Justin Thomas
Patrick Cantlay
Tony Finau
Xander Schauffele
Jordan Spieth
Harris English
Daniel Berger
Scottie Scheffler

Europe Team:
Jon Rahm
Tommy Fleetwood
Tyrrell Hatton
Bernd Wiesberger
Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland
Paul Casey
Matt Fitzpatrick
Lee Westwood
Shane Lowry
Sergio Garcia
Ian Poulter

[stantonhibby]

One week to go and I can't wait. I always look at the teams and think the American's have the stronger team, but they rarely seem to play to their individual strengths. Again, this year, I think it'll go down to a few key matches that could swing either way. The fact that there will be 99% of the fans cheering the US should tip it in their favour, but let's hope that's not the case.

US Team:
Collin Morikawa
Dustin Johnson
Bryson DeChambeau
Brooks Koepka
Justin Thomas
Patrick Cantlay
Tony Finau
Xander Schauffele
Jordan Spieth
Harris English
Daniel Berger
Scottie Scheffler

Europe Team:
Jon Rahm
Tommy Fleetwood
Tyrrell Hatton
Bernd Wiesberger
Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland
Paul Casey
Matt Fitzpatrick
Lee Westwood
Shane Lowry
Sergio Garcia
Ian Poulter


Aye should be good.

USA have the Dechambeau/Koepka dynamic to deal with. Koepka's comments this week about the competition were a bit odd. Wasn't exactly sounding up for it!

[WeeRussell]

I think USA will win (unless they really can’t be ar*ed.. as there’s plenty Europeans that will be right up for it). But I’ve thought that before.

Hope to see a fair bit of the action.

[greenlex]

Aye should be good.

USA have the Dechambeau/Koepka dynamic to deal with. Koepka's comments this week about the competition were a bit odd. Wasn't exactly sounding up for it!
I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.

[WeeRussell]

I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.

If they want to ensure a few more viewers it wouldn't be a bad idea :greengrin

[Tobias Funke]

I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.

Not a chance, Stricker would be strung up if he pulled such a trick and they lost the cup (again).

We won’t see those guys paired, they genuinely dislike each other.

[theonlywayisup]

Wonder what our opening fourball/foursomes will be?

Jon Rahm / Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland / Paul Casey
Shane Lowry / Sergio Garcia
Lee Westwood / Ian Poulter

Think that's our best eight form players, with the following left for the afternoon:


Tommy Fleetwood
Tyrrell Hatton
Bernd Wiesberger
Matt Fitzpatrick

Don't know if they've announced what format is first.

[hibeg]

Wonder what our opening fourball/foursomes will be?

Jon Rahm / Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland / Paul Casey
Shane Lowry / Sergio Garcia
Lee Westwood / Ian Poulter

Think that's our best eight form players, with the following left for the afternoon:


Tommy Fleetwood
Tyrrell Hatton
Bernd Wiesberger
Matt Fitzpatrick

Don't know if they've announced what format is first.

Pretty sure it’s always foursomes first, unless they have changed the rules ?
Personally think Lee Westwood may be a weak link as hasn’t really had any form this year, and if Shane Lowry played his way into the team then I don’t think he would have got a captains pick.

[theonlywayisup]

Pretty sure it’s always foursomes first, unless they have changed the rules ?


I'm pretty sure that the home team decides on which is played first. Wikipedia states "Currently the home captain decides before the contest starts whether the fourball or foursomes matches are played in the morning. He may choose a different order for the two days." For this Ryder Cup it's as follows:

Friday, 24 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Saturday, 25 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Sunday, 26 September:

Singles matches: Starts at 5:04pm, then games follow at 11-minute intervals

[hibeg]

I'm pretty sure that the home team decides on which is played first. Wikipedia states "Currently the home captain decides before the contest starts whether the fourball or foursomes matches are played in the morning. He may choose a different order for the two days." For this Ryder Cup it's as follows:

Friday, 24 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Saturday, 25 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Sunday, 26 September:

Singles matches: Starts at 5:04pm, then games follow at 11-minute intervals

Cheers, didn’t know that.

Can’t wait for it to start tomorrow

[theonlywayisup]

1305 BST Jon Rahm/Sergio Garcia (EUR) vs Justin Thomas/Jordan Spieth (USA)
1321 BST Paul Casey/Viktor Hovland (EUR) vs Dustin Johnson/Collin Morikawa (USA)
1337 BST Lee Westwood/Matt Fitzpatrick (EUR) vs Brooks Koepka/Daniel Berger (USA)
1353 BST Rory McIlroy/Ian Poulter (EUR) vs Patrick Cantlay/Xander Schauffele (USA)

Can't wait for the action to start.

[AugustaHibs]

Get into these yanks

[Smartie]

It looks like a lot will depend on whether or not the old European warhorses can rise to the occasion, as they have a decent record of doing in the past.

If the likes of Poulter and Garcia play the way they've been playing of late, this could be a pasting.

If they rise to the occasion, as they have so many times in the past, then it could be a different story.

I look at those pairings and don't see Europe having a chance though.

[Hiber-nation]

Bit like a Trump rally out there. Would make it even sweeter if we could.pump them.

[Jim44]

I don’t mind the Yanks showing strong and loud support for their team but I think cheering and applauding European mistakes and misfortune is pathetic.

[greenlex]

A handful of holes in and some exceptional golf already.

[greenlex]

Great first session of golf from the Americans in that format .

[mayo hibee]

Poulter certainly not justifying the captain's pick so far, this course doesn't really suit him anyway, would have been much better off with Justin Rose.

For the afternoon Harrington should lead off with Garcia and Rahm again, they need to get the next point on the board. Lowry and McIlroy makes sense as a pairing, they are friends off the course.

After that maybe Fleetwood/Hatton and Hovland/Weisberger as the other pairings to make sure everyone plays a match on day one and to get some of the deadwood like Poulter, Casey and Westwood off the course.

[blackpoolhibs]

Poulter certainly not justifying the captain's pick so far, this course doesn't really suit him anyway, would have been much better off with Justin Rose.

For the afternoon Harrington should lead off with Garcia and Rahm again, they need to get the next point on the board. Lowry and McIlroy makes sense as a pairing, they are friends off the course.

After that maybe Fleetwood/Hatton and Hovland/Weisberger as the other pairings to make sure everyone plays a match on day one and to get some of the deadwood like Poulter, Casey and Westwood off the course.

I agree, the postman has been on strike most of the last year, i think this is one ryder cup too many for him.

We are much weaker all through the squad than them, cant see anything but a heavy defeat.

[hibbysam]

I don’t mind the Yanks showing strong and loud support for their team but I think cheering and applauding European mistakes and misfortune is pathetic.

Not for me, it’s not worth any prize money or ranking points so should be treated as it’s meant to be, a competitive but fan friendly exhibition. Booing and jeering, cheering mis-hits and misfortune and players getting the crowd rev’d up is all part of it.

[mayo hibee]

I think it's ok to a point but shouting "in the water" and "fore" when they have no idea where the ball is going is pretty pathetic.

[Jim44]

Not for me, it’s not worth any prize money or ranking points so should be treated as it’s meant to be, a competitive but fan friendly exhibition. Booing and jeering, cheering mis-hits and misfortune and players getting the crowd rev’d up is all part of it.

I get your point but don’t really agree with you.


I think it's ok to a point but shouting "in the water" and "fore" when they have no idea where the ball is going is pretty pathetic.

Classless but hey ho.

........ plus, the Yanks get cheered all the way and the Europeans get booed all the way.

[lord bunberry]

If Europe can get out with a 5-3 deficit they’ll be ecstatic. Too many players either out of form or not good enough anymore.

[DaveF]

Americans are draining putts all over the place. Only Rahm looks in decent nick for Europe so far.

[JimBHibees]

How poor is Mcilroy absolutely awful. Don't think I have seen him putt anything all day.

[mayo hibee]

Europe just seem to have too many weak links here. Other than Garcia (inexplicably left out of this session) the older crowd look past it - Casey, Poulter and Westwood. Then there's the likes of Fitzpatrick and Wiesberger who always looked like potential weak links (though Wiesberger is trying hard to be fair). On top of that they really couldn't afford to have McIlroy looking so far off his game also, and Lowry has done little.

That's just too many weak links for the others - Garcia, Rahm, Hovland, Fleetwood and Hatton to carry.

If they can get out of today at 5-3 they'll have been unbelievably fortunate but it's not looking too likely at the moment.

[greenlex]

I think USA could dominate the Ryder cup for quite a while. Outside of Rahm and Hovland there is no other Europeans capable of dominating in the game right now. Detry might given time and possibly Weisberger but I’m not sure who the next really good batch are.

[hibbysam]

I get your point but don’t really agree with you.



Classless but hey ho.

........ plus, the Yanks get cheered all the way and the Europeans get booed all the way.

No difference to us celebrating an opposition player making an arse of something during a game, or cheering our own players. It’s a team game and all based on where you are from. Totally different to every other week on tour.

[lord bunberry]

No difference to us celebrating an opposition player making an arse of something during a game, or cheering our own players. It’s a team game and all based on where you are from. Totally different to every other week on tour.
It’s not my cup of tea to be honest, I don’t mind the chanting and the over the top atmosphere, but shouting for the ball to miss or go in the water is so far removed from the way golf is played that it just seems wrong. Anyone who plays golf will tell you it’s all about being respectful and supportive.

[lord bunberry]

6-2 at the close of play. Europe probably need at least 5 points tomorrow.

[AugustaHibs]

Spieths shot from the bottom of the cliff was one of the best shots I’ve ever seen.

Bryson’s 417 yard drive was up there too, for totally different reasons.

Tony finau was unfortunately absolutely incredible today, did he miss a putt from within 30ft today?

[theonlywayisup]

It’s not my cup of tea to be honest, I don’t mind the chanting and the over the top atmosphere, but shouting for the ball to miss or go in the water is so far removed from the way golf is played that it just seems wrong. Anyone who plays golf will tell you it’s all about being respectful and supportive.

The American golf fans have always been classless and disrespectful. I don't know what it was like pre-Seve, but they've been like that for years.

It was noticeable that the background noise was turned down a lot yesterday. Being noisy and boisterous is one thing, being disrespectful in golf is unacceptable.

[lord bunberry]

The American good fans have always been classless and disrespectful. I don't know what it was like pre-Seve, but they've been like that for years.

It was noticeable that the background noise was turned down a lot yesterday. Being noisy and boisterous is one thing, being disrespectful in golf is unacceptable.
Agreed.

[Jim44]

No difference to us celebrating an opposition player making an arse of something during a game, or cheering our own players. It’s a team game and all based on where you are from. Totally different to every other week on tour.


It’s not my cup of tea to be honest, I don’t mind the chanting and the over the top atmosphere, but shouting for the ball to miss or go in the water is so far removed from the way golf is played that it just seems wrong. Anyone who plays golf will tell you it’s all about being respectful and supportive.

There’s no comparison between golf and football. Physical contact, aggression, play acting, dishonesty and disrespect are part and parcel of football. Golf is the exact opposite with honesty, respect for your opponent and the rules of the game at the heart of the sport.

[J-C]

Worse 1st day performance from Europe for as long as I can remember, I know it's the top points players in each tour but Europe still have players who are either past it or not good enough, Casey, Westwood and Poulter.

[Smartie]

The American golf fans have always been classless and disrespectful. I don't know what it was like pre-Seve, but they've been like that for years.

It was noticeable that the background noise was turned down a lot yesterday. Being noisy and boisterous is one thing, being disrespectful in golf is unacceptable.

I'd wondered what the noise thing was all about. I guess they must have just cut the noise when it got over the top.

It's a shame because in spite of everything I quite like it. If the players were objecting then I'd have a problem with it but the Europeans know exactly what they're getting into and a good few of them thrive off it. Shutting the American crowd up is a career aim for many of them and I don't know how much anyone should want to sanitise that.

It shouldn't be like that every week though and fortunately it is not.

[Tobias Funke]

This could be a record defeat unless Europe pull the finger out.

[DaveF]

From being 3up, Hovland and Weisberger have chucked. Just missed a small putt to let the US take a lead.

Europe currently down in 3 of the 4.

[J-C]

One of the worst displays by a European team in a long long time.

[Hibs90]

Harrington with some awful team selections.

Harrington out IMO.

[J-C]

Harrington with some awful team selections.

Harrington out IMO.


Thing is they're playing on a course that should be familiar to most European players, too many just not up to scratch (pardon the pun).

[Jim44]

Sorry I’m not letting this go, but the unanimous booing at the introduction of the European players at the start of the fourkballs is scunnering ……… totally classless twats.

[lord bunberry]

Sorry I’m not letting this go, but the unanimous booing at the introduction of the European players at the start of the fourkballs is scunnering ……… totally classless twats.
I was watching last night and one of the American players was telling the crowd to calm down, I think it might have been Bryson.

[greenlex]

I was watching last night and one of the American players was telling the crowd to calm down, I think it might have been Bryson.
There were a few trying to do it.

[Jim44]

There were a few trying to do it.

It certainly wasn’t Justin Thomas who I think is the worst of the Americans in winding up the vitriol of the American support. It’s refreshing to listen to the unbiased and encouraging comments of Butch Harmon. He clearly wants his country to win but has an open mind.

[lord bunberry]

What was Dechambeau doing there with his putter?

[DaveF]

It certainly wasn’t Justin Thomas who I think is the worst of the Americans in winding up the vitriol of the American support. It’s refreshing to listen to the unbiased and encouraging comments of Butch Harmon. He clearly wants his country to win but has an open mind.

He's also just called De Chambeau classless after he laid his putter down because he was made to hole a short putt.

[McD]

What was Dechambeau doing there with his putter?


He's also just called De Chambeau classless after he laid his putter down because he was made to hole a short putt.


missed this, what happened?

[DaveF]

missed this, what happened?

He was asked to putt a 3 footer, holed it and then laid his putter down in a strop at being asked. As if he's never missed a short putt before...

[Jim44]

De classless is fast turning himself into the most unliked player in modern golf. They probably wouldn’t admit it, but he is unpopular with the Yanks.

[Hibrandenburg]

De classless is fast turning himself into the most unliked player in modern golf. They probably wouldn’t admit it, but he is unpopular with the Yanks.

Absolute roaster, he's had a personality change since he beefed up. I wonder if he's had chemical assistance.

[greenlex]

What was Dechambeau doing there with his putter?
It’s fairly common in friendly match play ties to give your opponent the putt if it’s “inside the leather”. Basically if it’s shorter than the length of your putter minus the grip. He was being the ****** that he is.

[mayo hibee]

Absolute roaster, he's had a personality change since he beefed up. I wonder if he's had chemical assistance.

He was also a knob before he bulked up to be fair.

[Stairway 2 7]

Absolute roaster, he's had a personality change since he beefed up. I wonder if he's had chemical assistance.

Oh definitely, more e numbers in him than an American steak

[mayo hibee]

I think USA could dominate the Ryder cup for quite a while. Outside of Rahm and Hovland there is no other Europeans capable of dominating in the game right now. Detry might given time and possibly Weisberger but I’m not sure who the next really good batch are.

I would agree. You can kind of divide European golf up into two sections - continental Europe which should be a growth area but isn't for whatever reason, and GB and Ireland, where the sport seems to be in decline, particularly in Britain.

I think having pretty much all the tournament golf locked away behind a paywall on Sky is doing huge damage to the game in the UK. It just adds another barrier to entry for young players alongside the difficulty of the game to master and the financial cost as well compared to other sports.

[DaveF]

What has happened to McIlroy? He is spraying the ball all over the place.

[davy67 +]

De classless is fast turning himself into the most unliked player in modern golf. They probably wouldn’t admit it, but he is unpopular with the Yanks.

It was a struggle to find someone to partner him , he's almost as unlikeible as Patrick Read

[lord bunberry]

It’s fairly common in friendly match play ties to give your opponent the putt if it’s “inside the leather”. Basically if it’s shorter than the length of your putter minus the grip. He was being the ****** that he is.

Thanks, I’m guessing that’s why the commentators said that he shouldn’t be doing that as he had a long handled putter.

[Golden Bear]

What has happened to McIlroy? He is spraying the ball all over the place.

He's living on past glories and contributed the square route of absolutely zero.

[Tobias Funke]

He's living on past glories and contributed the square route of absolutely zero.

He is a busted flush. He’s never been the same since he decided to get ripped.

[theonlywayisup]

He is a busted flush. He’s never been the same since he decided to get ripped.

Must be more than that, 10 years ago he was being praised for physical shape. Think it was more that he decided a couple of years ago that he had to increase his clubhead speed, to keep up with Byrson, but it's ruined his game.

[J-C]

He is a busted flush. He’s never been the same since he decided to get ripped.


Did his game not go to pot when he changed his clubs due to a massive sponsorship deal and struggled with the new clubs.

[McSwanky]

He is a busted flush. He’s never been the same since he decided to get ripped.To be fair, he's still ranked 15 in the world, Europe's 3rd highest ranking. He's not that bad, but he's been really poor this week though, the course and conditions haven't suited him at all.

Not sure why Harrington has given him so much game time. And don't get me started on Poulter.

[He's here!]

He's living on past glories and contributed the square route of absolutely zero.

The guy's always annoyed me for some reason. He's also just not good enough to be in the team on current form.

[J-C]

The booing of the European players when their names called out is very poor by the Yanks, McIlroy just gave a wry smile.

[007]

Rahm was immense on Friday and Saturday but is currently up against it v Scheffler. I think though it's mostly down to Scheffler playing well. Hopefully Rahm can turn it around.

Europe realistically too far behind to catch the US but would be nice if we could at least win the singles session and keep the overall score respectable. Mind you, think I thought the same for Medinah.

[Tobias Funke]

If Europe don’t win at least 6 points today it’ll be the first time since 2006 that one team has won every session.

[007]

If Europe don’t win at least 6 points today it’ll be the first time since 2006 that one team has won every session.

Fourballs yesterday was 2-2.

[Tobias Funke]

If Europe don’t win at least 6 points today it’ll be the first time since 2006 that one team has won every session.

Balls, 4th session was 2-2.

What a flump 😂

[blackpoolhibs]

We are getting hammered, outplayed and outclassed.

[MWHIBBIES]

This is getting pretty ugly. Most one sided Ryder cup I've watched I think.

[007]

We are getting hammered, outplayed and outclassed.

Disappointing but not really a surprise given their average world ranking is 8.9 and ours is 30.8. Add in home advantage and restricted number of away fans then it isn't an unexpected scoreline.

[greenlex]

American golf has been unbelievably good. All week too.,

[007]

Yay, point for Europe. Gap down to 5, game on! :cb

[Smartie]

The American often(always) have the better players but they have a habit of getting in their own way.

They had the potential to do the same again here, but Stricker and others have done a great job of preventing that from happening.

It has been a fantastic performance.

[007]

The American often(always) have the better players but they have a habit of getting in their own way.

They had the potential to do the same again here, but Stricker and others have done a great job of preventing that from happening.

It has been a fantastic performance.

Agree, they usually have the better players but we often are the better team. I think the gap this time between the players was that much bigger this team that it was a huge mountain to climb.

[007]

That's 2 cans of lager Xander Schauffele's downed in one already. He's going to be an ill boy in the morning. 🤮

[RyeSloan]

Agree, they usually have the better players but we often are the better team. I think the gap this time between the players was that much bigger this team that it was a huge mountain to climb.

The US team was very very strong…was always gonna be tough.

But the Europe team just didn’t look at the races from the off.

The only bright spot outside of the Rahm and Garcia partnership was Hovland who looks a great player.

In retrospect we should maybe have taken a couple more rookies to blood them ahead of Italy.

Absolutely cracking course though that encouraged some great golf and punished any poor shots heavily.

[Future17]

Disappointing but not really a surprise given their average world ranking is 8.9 and ours is 30.8. Add in home advantage and restricted number of away fans then it isn't an unexpected scoreline.

Also can't underestimate the effect of Brexit on the European team.

[007]

Predictions for the Nicklaus-Jacklin award are Dustin Johnson and John Rahm. Doesn't have to go to the top point scorers but can't see past those 2. Rahm was huge for us 1st 2 days and Johnson only the 3rd player ever to win 5 out of 5 (plus it was on the course where he got a 2 shot penalty and a triple bogey on the 72nd hole to miss out on the playoff by 2 shots in the 2910 USPGA).

[JeMeSouviens]

The American often(always) have the better players but they have a habit of getting in their own way.

They had the potential to do the same again here, but Stricker and others have done a great job of preventing that from happening.

It has been a fantastic performance.

Rankings notwithstanding, there's a huge home advantage effect. Whoever has been the home team has had comfortable wins in the last few since the "miracle of Medinah" in 2012.

[Smartie]

The US team was very very strong…was always gonna be tough.

But the Europe team just didn’t look at the races from the off.

The only bright spot outside of the Rahm and Garcia partnership was Hovland who looks a great player.

In retrospect we should maybe have taken a couple more rookies to blood them ahead of Italy.

Absolutely cracking course though that encouraged some great golf and punished any poor shots heavily.

I loved the bunkers.

Bunkers are often beautifully manicured these days and players are brilliant at getting out of them.

I loved that they were proper "hazards" and that players were so often harshly punished for going in them.

[RyeSloan]

I loved the bunkers.

Bunkers are often beautifully manicured these days and players are brilliant at getting out of them.

I loved that they were proper "hazards" and that players were so often harshly punished for going in them.

Was saying exactly that to my playing partner yesterday.

So often you hear that the pro’s actually PREFER to be in a bunker if they miss the green.

Not on this course because, as you say, the hazard was indeed a hazard.

Would love to see that concept applied to a few more courses they play.

I also saw a chat the other day about removing bunkers from courses and adding humps and hollows instead that actually punished poor play more and, handily, were much cheaper and easier to maintain.