Raith vs Hibs 16th of July

[hhibs]

Get a grip man, you get no continuity when that number of subs come on in a second half in a staggered fashion.

Go and learn about the game and get back to me.


My exact point was there should not have been a huge number of substitutions ,so get back to me ,when and if ,you can learn to .read properly.

[jacomo]

My exact point was there should not have been a huge number of substitutions ,so get back to me ,when and if ,you can learn to .read properly.


Maybe Jack had seen what he needed to see from the likely starters next week so took the opportunity to give other members of the squad some game time?

[scoopyboy]

My exact point was there should not have been a huge number of substitutions ,so get back to me ,when and if ,you can learn to .read properly.

Oh I can read alright, I read all the posts after you posted your initial nonsense and most of them are laughing at you're comment. Go back and check.

And if you think there shouldn't have been as large a number of substitutions in a friendly then I'm afraid you don't have a real grasp of the situation. If you don't believe me take a look at any friendly and count the subs.

[J-C]

My exact point was there should not have been a huge number of substitutions ,so get back to me ,when and if ,you can learn to .read properly.

You always get lots of subs in a pre season friendly, that's what they're used for to give everyone a run out and gain match fitness.

[Iggy Pope]

My exact point was there should not have been a huge number of substitutions ,so get back to me ,when and if ,you can learn to .read properly.

Learn to read? Come on man. You’re the second poster on here getting himself arsey over nothing at all, it can only be the heat.
It’s a pre season friendly and a testimonial at that. Multiple substitutions are habitual in that environment , have you ever gone along to one?

[hhibs]

You always get lots of subs in a pre season friendly, that's what they're used for to give everyone a run out and gain match fitness.


I we make an arse of our next game it will be very expensive,not to mention a potential blight on the whole season. IMO

[SaulGoodman]

I we make an arse of our next game it will be very expensive,not to mention a potential blight on the whole season. IMO

Why would this game have a bearing on what happens next game?

EDIT: And why would making lots of subs have an impact on our performance for the next game as well?

[Andy74]

I we make an arse of our next game it will be very expensive,not to mention a potential blight on the whole season. IMO

Total nonsense.

[hhibs]

Learn to read? Come on man. You’re the second poster on here getting himself arsey over nothing at all, it can only be the heat.
It’s a pre season friendly and a testimonial at that. Multiple substitutions are habitual in that environment , have you ever gone along to one?



I believe you started being arsey with your personal comment,did not know you were the football Sage,well,in your mind anyway.

[Iggy Pope]

I believe you started being arsey with your personal comment,did not know you were the football Sage,well,in your mind anyway.

You’ve done it again. A sage wouldn’t do that.

[J-C]

I we make an arse of our next game it will be very expensive,not to mention a potential blight on the whole season. IMO

Do you have any concept of what a pre season friendly is? Jeez, I give up.

[scoopyboy]

I we make an arse of our next game it will be very expensive,not to mention a potential blight on the whole season. IMO

You are right in that it would be a very expensive exercise if we go out of Europe to the Andorran team, however it will have nothing to do with tonight.

The Arsenal and Raith games have given the vast majority of our starting eleven game time from the beginning of a match. There is nothing wrong with the preparation.

[hhibs]

Total nonsense.


So you really telling me ,getting knocked out by a team from Andorra will have no impact,that truly is nonsense.

[hhibs]

You’ve done it again. A sage wouldn’t do that.


You still having reading problems ?

[SaulGoodman]

So you really telling me ,getting knocked out by a team from Andorra will have no impact,that truly is nonsense.

It’s a strange thing to get worked up about when;
A) It’s not happened
B) There’s been no indication that it would happen

[hhibs]

You are right in that it would be a very expensive exercise if we go out of Europe to the Andorran team, however it will have nothing to do with tonight.

The Arsenal and Raith games have given the vast majority of our starting eleven game time from the beginning of a match. There is nothing wrong with the preparation.



Sorry I disagee on your second point in relation to this game but fair enough

[Andy74]

So you really telling me ,getting knocked out by a team from Andorra will have no impact,that truly is nonsense.

No that’s the bit I agree with.

That wasn’t really your point though, was it?

It was that making changes in a friendly was going to have a negative impact on the European game.

[AliboyFC]

What was the score I didnt watch it.

[Peevemor]

It’s a strange thing to get worked up about when;
A) It’s not happened
B) There’s been no indication that it would happenhttps://youtu.be/hjEwCWN9-gc

[scoopyboy]

Sorry I disagee on your second point in relation to this game but fair enough

I can see I am not going to change your mind on this so this is my last post in reply to you.

Before I go though I will say you are digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole with people who I have come to respect on the board.

Your call though.

[BILLYHIBS]

What was the score I didnt watch it.
1-3 to the famous

[hhibs]

It’s a strange thing to get worked up about when;
A) It’s not happened
B) There’s been no indication that it would happen




Hope you are absolutely right and I am completely wrong but

[Brightside]

We are going to win the league.

[hhibs]

I can see I am not going to change your mind on this so this is my last post in reply to you.

Before I go though I will say you are digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole with people who I have come to respect on the board.

Your call though.




Respect is a two way process not much to be seen around here from your "respectful "cohort.

[flash]

1-3 to the famous

And the Hibs result?

[FilipinoHibs]

I've missed the match thread squabbles.

[Crunchie]

We are going to win the league.
We might have to tinker with the CH pairing.

[AliboyFC]

Don't matter I saw the score on twitter.

[ahibby]

My exact point was there should not have been a huge number of substitutions ,so get back to me ,when and if ,you can learn to .read properly.

Not at all. No one should be under the impression that tonights game is any indication of next week, it wasnt even a dress rehearsal. We were already, ready for next week.

[hhibs]

We are going to win the league.



After a potentially shaky start I take it :greengrin

[ahibby]

And the Hibs result?

Shanks said no I dont think so but .......

[Aldo]

Friendliest/testimonial used to get players some game time and match fitness.

Loads of substitutes and a team will sometimes play 2 different teams of players in each half.
It’s what teams have done for decades.

Another good run out this evening with players getting this valuable game time whilst improving on match fitness etc etc

Final score 1-3 Hibernian.

Right onto next week.

Mon the Hibs


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[.Sean.]

Somebody set them straight though and fair play to them for mentioning it.
Not been keeping up lately, what’s the story here?

[hhibs]

Not at all. No one should be under the impression that tonights game is any indication of next week, it wasnt even a dress rehearsal. We were already, ready for next week.



Hope you are exactly right.



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[Lago]

I believe you started being arsey with your personal comment,did not know you were the football Sage,well,in your mind anyway.
I wouldn't worry, seems to be growing problem on here personal abuse, getting more like twitter every day.

[flash]

Shanks said no I dont think so but .......

Mental not famous......

[ahibby]

Hope you are exactly right.



n

I am, tonight was only about giving a squad a run out for game time and thats all.

[ahibby]

Mental not famous......

Ah so it is, well old memories fading I suppose. Maybe he meant 1 3 to the mentals?

[Big_Franck]

Not been keeping up lately, what’s the story here?

The myth is that Newell's dad is Mike Newell who played as a striker for the Blackburn side that won the league under Dalglish. He also played for Aberdeen later in his career. It's not true though and there's no family link there at all. Certain fans and media outlets keep parroting the same info though.

[Jay]

I wouldn't worry, seems to be growing problem on here personal abuse, getting more like twitter every day.

Feel free to use the report post function. We take personal abuse seriosuly and act on it when neccessary but there may be some posts we miss.

[flash]

Ah so it is, well old memories fading I suppose. Maybe he meant 1 3 to the mentals?

That would be crazy.

[B.H.F.C]

Just back and it was good to be back at a game of football.

First half was good, maybe clinical is a better word, going forward. Defensively we made quite a few errors and I’m not convinced about that midfield. Second half was a bit of a non event because of the subs and the fact the ref liked the sound of his whistle.

See so many things being at the game that you don’t pick up watching how we had to watch all last season.

[ahibby]

That would be crazy.

Well according to the song we are all mental or maybe thats your point.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Who is the Hibs player in the protective boot?

Wasn’t a player who features tonight. Cadden maybe?

Sean Mackie

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Bradley is looking like a player so far.

[Unseen work]

Sean Mackie

Seems to be having no luck.

Any idea what’s happened?

[Hibs1969]

My stream was fine unlike the pitch which looked horrific.

The pitch was fine, one of the better artificials around. It was heavily watered before the game and at half time which saw a few players slipping, but overall it was fine. Cracking evening for watching football really.

[Andy74]

Bradley is looking like a player so far.

Was hoping to see a bit more of the type of player he was tonight. Got the goal which was a nice touch with the head but other than that I’m not sure he did very much.

[bingo70]

Was hoping to see a bit more of the type of player he was tonight. Got the goal which was a nice touch with the head but other than that I’m not sure he did very much.

I’m pleased I’m not the only one seeing that.

Not writing him off but I’m just not seeing what other players are.

Mackay and Wright looked far more dangerous when they came on, even if Bradley did score.

While I’ve got my tin hat on as well I’ll also point out again that Macey still gives me the ****s.

[CapitalGreen]

Bradley is looking like a player so far.

Makes sense as he looked pretty friendly with a few of the Raith players.

[04Sauzee]

Was hoping to see a bit more of the type of player he was tonight. Got the goal which was a nice touch with the head but other than that I’m not sure he did very much.

Agreed looked better against Arsenal. Good player though and believe he will have a big future at Hibs. Have a feeling he'll get a good loan move, think if he stayed at ER there is a danger his progress would be stiffled.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m pleased I’m not the only one seeing that.

Not writing him off but I’m just not seeing what other players are.

Mackay and Wright looked far more dangerous when they came on, even if Bradley did score.

While I’ve got my tin hat on as well I’ll also point out again that Macey still gives me the ****s.

I will also agree on Bradley tonight. Not slaughtering him or anything like that, he got his goal but I thought he could have been a bit more positive a few times.

Didn’t see too much wrong with Macey though, Raith could quite easily have had three goals themselves in the first half had it not been for him.

[SteveHFC]

Bradley is looking like a player so far.

Do we start him next week or drop him to the bench.

[B.H.F.C]

Do we start him next week or drop him to the bench.

I think there is a pretty good chance that the team that started tonight is the team that starts next Thursday.

[bingo70]

I will also agree on Bradley tonight. Not slaughtering him or anything like that, he got his goal but I thought he could have been a bit more positive a few times.

Didn’t see too much wrong with Macey though, Raith could quite easily have had three goals themselves in the first half had it not been for him.

There was a tame looking cross/shot that he flapped and nearly went in his own net. Also think his distribution was poor, kicked it right out a few times but also didn’t spot midfielders in acres of space he could have thrown or rolled the ball out to but chose to either wait and go long or just pass it to Porteous or hanlon to inevitably go long.

None of them major mistakes, and to provide balance, did also have a few decent stops, I’m just far from convinced about him.

[Iain G]

There was a tame looking cross/shot that he flapped and nearly went in his own net. Also think his distribution was poor, kicked it right out a few times but also didn’t spot midfielders in acres of space he could have thrown or rolled the ball out to but chose to either wait and go long or just pass it to Porteous or hanlon to inevitably go long.

None of them major mistakes, and to provide balance, did also have a few decent stops, I’m just far from convinced about him.

So an improvement on Marciano's kicking then 😉

[bingo70]

So an improvement on Marciano's kicking then 😉

Marciano was perfect and I won’t hear a bad word said against him. 😉

[Iain G]

Marciano was perfect and I won’t hear a bad word said against him. 😉

Not as perfect as Bogdan though (insert tin hat smiley and run away....)

[Alex Trager]

Somebody set them straight though and fair play to them for mentioning it.

What is it they got wrong?

[JimBHibees]

What is it they got wrong?

Mike isn't Joes dad.

[Alex Trager]

I've missed the match thread squabbles.

[emoji23]

[Alex Trager]

Mike isn't Joes dad.

Is Mike Newell a guy?
I’ve never heard of him

[JohnM1875]

Is Mike Newell a guy?
I’ve never heard of him

24899

Directed Harry Potter Goblet of Fire. Didn't take Joe as a Harry Potter man.

[Alex Trager]

24899

Directed Harry Potter Goblet of Fire. Didn't take Joe as a Harry Potter man.

Some knowledge from the comms team to know him tbf to them

[SMAXXA]

I’m pleased I’m not the only one seeing that.

Not writing him off but I’m just not seeing what other players are.

Mackay and Wright looked far more dangerous when they came on, even if Bradley did score.

While I’ve got my tin hat on as well I’ll also point out again that Macey still gives me the ****s.

The point on Macey is bizarre he never put a foot wrong tonight bar a couple of over hit kicks

[SMAXXA]

There was a tame looking cross/shot that he flapped and nearly went in his own net. Also think his distribution was poor, kicked it right out a few times but also didn’t spot midfielders in acres of space he could have thrown or rolled the ball out to but chose to either wait and go long or just pass it to Porteous or hanlon to inevitably go long.

None of them major mistakes, and to provide balance, did also have a few decent stops, I’m just far from convinced about him.

Is the cross your referring to the one in the first half where he clearly lets it go as it was sailing over the boy at back post? The one where’s the Raith commentators were praising him for awareness and confidence lol

[B.H.F.C]

Is the cross your referring to the one in the first half where he clearly lets it go as it was sailing over the boy at back post? The one where’s the Raith commentators were praising him for awareness and confidence lol

Macey did get a wee bit lucky with a shot in the first half, kind of went through his hands and landed on the top of the net. It was a decent enough hit from the edge of the box though. He bailed out the two centre halves a couple of times in the first half, their performance was more of a concern IMO.

[.Sean.]

24899

Directed Harry Potter Goblet of Fire. Didn't take Joe as a Harry Potter man.
No the best film, but opened the door for the exceptional second half of the cinematic Harry Potter story. Great book though!

[Peevemor]

Goals here

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1416162431043313667?s=19

[SMAXXA]

Macey did get a wee bit lucky with a shot in the first half, kind of went through his hands and landed on the top of the net. It was a decent enough hit from the edge of the box though. He bailed out the two centre halves a couple of times in the first half, their performance was more of a concern IMO.

I know the one you referring to and I actually thought he tried to catch it then realised he couldn’t and kinda pushed it onto the top of the net. As you point out I’d be more worried with hale and pace in front of him on tonight’s performance 😂. Just didn’t expect anyone to feel less than satisfied with his performance tonight I thought he did well. I just hope it’s not one of these as some aren’t sure of him and regardless of what he does folk will beat that drum and try find faults.

[H18 SFR]

Goals here

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1416162431043313667?s=19

I’m really liking the new stuff.

[Peevemor]

I’m really liking the new stuff.Same here. A wee match report, clips of the goals & interviews. What more could we want?

[GreenCastle]

Goals here

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1416162431043313667?s=19

Great work Hibs. Much improved content and really enjoying the new content and style - definitely got 2 guys who know what they are doing involved so that’s a step up and shows the Ron effect.

[Juice-Terry]

Great work Hibs. Much improved content and really enjoying the new content and style - definitely got 2 guys who know what they are doing involved so that’s a step up and shows the Ron effect.

Pretty good so far, but Ben should step back from the camera a bit. :greengrin

[Jones28]

Goals here

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1416162431043313667?s=19

The more I see that kit the more I like it

[CentreLine]

The more I see that kit the more I like it

Like the training polo shirt. May have to get one of those if they do enough X’s

[Borderhibbie76]

I know the one you referring to and I actually thought he tried to catch it then realised he couldn’t and kinda pushed it onto the top of the net. As you point out I’d be more worried with hale and pace in front of him on tonight’s performance 😂. Just didn’t expect anyone to feel less than satisfied with his performance tonight I thought he did well. I just hope it’s not one of these as some aren’t sure of him and regardless of what he does folk will beat that drum and try find faults.

Sadly that's exactly what's gonna happen mate, Rocky will now become the world's best goalkeeper and some are gonna slaughter Macey every week this season...too many made their minds up on this last season - it's already evident both on here and Twitter

[Peevemor]

Sadly that's exactly what's gonna happen mate, Rocky will now become the world's best goalkeeper and some are gonna slaughter Macey every week this season...too many made their minds up on this last season - it's already evident both on here and TwitterThat's the impression I'm getting too.

[Coach Jon]

Macey did get a wee bit lucky with a shot in the first half, kind of went through his hands and landed on the top of the net. It was a decent enough hit from the edge of the box though. He bailed out the two centre halves a couple of times in the first half, their performance was more of a concern IMO.

Any goalie will have his work cut out playing behind that defence, allowing loads of free shots at goal, Ross needs to get a couple of decent defenders in quick as that was pathetic last night.

[bingo70]

Any goalie will have his work cut out playing behind that defence, allowing loads of free shots at goal, Ross needs to get a couple of decent defenders in quick as that was pathetic last night.

The defence is decent imo.

Few sloppy mistakes but in general there’s a reason why we had a good defensive record last season.

[tamig]

The defence is decent imo.

Few sloppy mistakes but in general there’s a reason why we had a good defensive record last season.

When sloppy mistakes are repeated frequently and generally lead to a goal being lost its time to take action. We definitely need at least one quality centre half who can go straight into the team.

[bingo70]

When sloppy mistakes are repeated frequently and generally lead to a goal being lost its time to take action. We definitely need at least one quality centre half who can go straight into the team.

I disagree.

If we want our defenders to try and play football and pass the ball out from defence, mistakes will happen.

If we want a big no nonsense centre half just to blooter it clear then fine but I’m sure the appeal of that will wear off pretty quickly.

Imo trying to improve on Hanlon and Porteous in central defence won’t be as easy as people think.

I’ve no issue with signing someone as competition for them though.

[tamig]

I disagree.

If we want our defenders to try and play football and pass the ball out from defence, mistakes will happen.

If we want a big no nonsense centre half just to blooter it clear then fine but I’m sure the appeal of that will wear off pretty quickly.

Imo trying to improve on Hanlon and Porteous in central defence won’t be as easy as people think.

I’ve no issue with signing someone as competition for them though.

Trying to cut out the repeated mistakes in the pair of them may be a bigger challenge. Hanlon more so as he’s not a young boy any more. Porteous needs to knuckle down and focus though. He’s a very good prospect but needs to cut the costly mistakes out pronto. A quality centre half doesn’t need to be an old school stopper as well. That wasn’t what I had in mind.

[wookie70]

I disagree.

If we want our defenders to try and play football and pass the ball out from defence, mistakes will happen.

If we want a big no nonsense centre half just to blooter it clear then fine but I’m sure the appeal of that will wear off pretty quickly.

Imo trying to improve on Hanlon and Porteous in central defence won’t be as easy as people think.

I’ve no issue with signing someone as competition for them though.

It is all about risk and reward I suppose. Some of the passes we make from defence and fairly low reward but quite a high risk. Porteous in particular likes a drilled low pass through a forest of midfielders. even if the pass is successful it will be a long way from creating a goal. If he mi****s or misjudges the pass we often have the opposition quickly moving into our defensive area while we have players stranded. Hanlon has been very sloppy a couple of times in the friendlies but that is very unusual for him.

Saying all that I agree with you that there will be mistakes if you want to pass from defence. Overall it is the style I want to see and having a Dylan type player who will take a simple pass, advance us up the park 20 yards would make a big difference and take some of the pressure off our centre halves to also be playmakers. Then those risky passes are further from our goal so safer and more likely to lead to a productive attack.

[bingo70]

It is all about risk and reward I suppose. Some of the passes we make from defence and fairly low reward but quite a high risk. Porteous in particular likes a drilled low pass through a forest of midfielders. even if the pass is successful it will be a long way from creating a goal. If he mi****s or misjudges the pass we often have the opposition quickly moving into our defensive area while we have players stranded. Hanlon has been very sloppy a couple of times in the friendlies but that is very unusual for him.

Saying all that I agree with you that there will be mistakes if you want to pass from defence. Overall it is the style I want to see and having a Dylan type player who will take a simple pass, advance us up the park 20 yards would make a big difference and take some of the pressure off our centre halves to also be playmakers. Then those risky passes are further from our goal so safer and more likely to lead to a productive attack.

Good post.

Agree with all of it.

[JohnM1875]

It is all about risk and reward I suppose. Some of the passes we make from defence and fairly low reward but quite a high risk. Porteous in particular likes a drilled low pass through a forest of midfielders. even if the pass is successful it will be a long way from creating a goal. If he mi****s or misjudges the pass we often have the opposition quickly moving into our defensive area while we have players stranded. Hanlon has been very sloppy a couple of times in the friendlies but that is very unusual for him.

Saying all that I agree with you that there will be mistakes if you want to pass from defence. Overall it is the style I want to see and having a Dylan type player who will take a simple pass, advance us up the park 20 yards would make a big difference and take some of the pressure off our centre halves to also be playmakers. Then those risky passes are further from our goal so safer and more likely to lead to a productive attack.

I definitely agree with this. And hopefully that player can be Magennis (haven't seen enough of Doyle-Hayes to know what kind of player he is) in a three with Gogic and Allan. I really thought Newell would have been that player, but more often than not he just fires it back to Hanlon or Porto. Very rarely does Newell seem to turn with the ball and take it forward, which is frustrating cause he is quite clearly a good player!

[007]

That's the impression I'm getting too.

It concerns me. The 'I told you so' brigade and the 'I called it' club who are desperate to be proven right about a player because they think it makes them look clever.

I don't have an issue with people expressing an opinion on a player but too many make snap judgements after 5 minutes, that they don't deviate from, instead of giving players a chance to settle in.

[B.H.F.C]

Trying to cut out the repeated mistakes in the pair of them may be a bigger challenge. Hanlon more so as he’s not a young boy any more. Porteous needs to knuckle down and focus though. He’s a very good prospect but needs to cut the costly mistakes out pronto. A quality centre half doesn’t need to be an old school stopper as well. That wasn’t what I had in mind.

Definitely a balance to be had. Porteous had at least two or three mistakes, in the first half, that he was lucky not to be punished for.

The Hanlon one is where the midfield take a bit of the blame IMO. He was looking and looking for them and they were nowhere. That said, there comes a point where you need to do something with the ball, putting it up the channel or whatever. You can’t do what he did and just brush it off as that being something that happens if you want to play out.

I think they’re both comfortable enough on the ball but neither are exactly Sauzee. I don’t think they need to be either but until we solve that issue of who will constantly take it of them in the middle of the park, I think we’ll see the same things happen.

[bingo70]

It concerns me. The 'I told you so' brigade and the 'I called it' club who are desperate to be proven right about a player because they think it makes them look clever.

I don't have an issue with people expressing an opinion on a player but too many make snap judgements after 5 minutes, that they don't deviate from, instead of giving players a chance to settle in.

Just my opinion but I think that’s pish.

Everyone that’s criticised Macey has been equal in their praise for him for the things he’s done well. The cup final being the obvious example.

I’m the obvious target of your post as I may even be the only one who’s criticised him on this thread, I’m not sure though. Even then, I’ve also said he had a few good saves last night.

Ultimately though keepers are generally remembered for their mistakes, not their saves, harsh maybe but that’s just the nature of the beast with that position.

It’s becoming a thing on this board that any sort of criticism has you labelled as desperate to see the club in a bad light. I’m not just talking about me on this thread.

I don’t give players stick at games, I’m never making any criticism of players personal but on a forum where the whole point is to give opinions I don’t see why people shouldn’t give their opinion, even if it is negative.

To go back to the original point of this post, I’m not convinced by Macey but I couldn’t give a monkeys about being proven correct in a few months, I would much rather I was wrong as I have been loads in the past, that’s not going to stop me giving my opinion though.

[MWHIBBIES]

When sloppy mistakes are repeated frequently and generally lead to a goal being lost its time to take action. We definitely need at least one quality centre half who can go straight into the team.

I don't think thats the case at all, though. We do not make repeated mistakes that lead directly to goals. If we did, we would not have had the 3rd best defence in the league, and over 20 clean sheets in all comps.

[Smartie]

It’s worth bearing in mind that these are just pre-season friendlies.

Some players will be fitter than others, the idea of these games is to improve our match sharpness. I’m a lot more forgiving of mistakes in games like the ones we've played over the past week.

Whilst there have been blemishes, I see no reason why we shouldn’t be going into our next few games with confidence in our first choice players.

[Iggy Pope]

I believe you started being arsey with your personal comment,did not know you were the football Sage,well,in your mind anyway.


I wouldn't worry, seems to be growing problem on here personal abuse, getting more like twitter every day.


Feel free to use the report post function. We take personal abuse seriosuly and act on it when neccessary but there may be some posts we miss.

If you’d missed any abuse dished out to this disparaging pair J.S then I’ve missed it too.

[Lago]

I don't think thats the case at all, though. We do not make repeated mistakes that lead directly to goals. If we did, we would not have had the 3rd best defence in the league, and over 20 clean sheets in all comps.
Good Post, the statistics don't lie when looked at over a whole season