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CyberSauzee
14-06-2021, 07:25 PM
As per Uefa and Wikipedia, us and the Dons are seeds in the draw. Doesn't look like the draw is regionalised at this point. If not there's a couple of teams from both Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan...

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/news/0269-125a0eedca42-5b0b9c095b37-1000--second-qualifying-round-draw-live-on-wednesday/?iv=true

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League

Lancs Harp
14-06-2021, 07:28 PM
Bet we end up in Belarus.

A tie in against Welsh or Irish oppostion would be best IMO (Im guessing Englands sole representitve will come in a later round -- is that Spurs?)

Sir David Gray
14-06-2021, 08:31 PM
Bet we end up in Belarus.

A tie in against Welsh or Irish oppostion would be best IMO (Im guessing Englands sole representitve will come in a later round -- is that Spurs?)

Yes Tottenham start in the play off round.

AliboyFC
14-06-2021, 09:02 PM
Exciting

BlackSheep
15-06-2021, 10:27 AM
Is the draw not Today? Or that for the round before we enter?

CyberSauzee
15-06-2021, 10:50 AM
Is the draw not Today? Or that for the round before we enter?

You're right today's draw is the round before.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/news/0269-125a0ece5cf9-5867a3c2252d-1000--first-qualifying-round-draw-live-on-tuesday/

bingo70
15-06-2021, 12:39 PM
Links in the OP aren’t working for me.

Is anybody able to provide a lost of teams we could get please?

nonshinyfinish
15-06-2021, 01:13 PM
Links in the OP aren’t working for me.

They will work if you copy and paste them. These should be clickable:

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/news/0269-125a0eedca42-5b0b9c095b37-1000--second-qualifying-round-draw-live-on-wednesday/?iv=true (https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/news/0269-125a0eedca42-5b0b9c095b37-1000--second-qualifying-round-draw-live-on-wednesday/?iv=true)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League)

Green Man
15-06-2021, 01:31 PM
First qualifying round draw:

Group 1
Levadia Tallinn (EST)* vs St Joseph's (GIB)
Inter Turku (FIN) vs Puskás Akadémia (HUN)*
Dečić (MNE) vs Drita (KOS)*
Sūduva (LTU)* vs Valmiera (LVA)

Group 2
La Fiorita 1967 (SMR)* vs Birkirkara (MLT)
Mons Calpe (GIB) vs Santa Coloma (AND)*
Velež (BIH) vs Coleraine (NIR)*
Domžale (SVN)* vs Swift Hesper (LUX)

Group 3
Shkupi 1987 (MKD)* vs Llapi (KOS)
Dinamo Batumi (GEO) vs Tre Penne (SMR)*
Sfintul Gheorghe (MDA) vs Partizani (ALB)*
Maribor (SVN)* vs Urartu (ARM)

Group 4
Laçi (ALB)* vs Podgorica (MNE)
Milsami Orhei (MDA) vs FK Sarajevo (BIH)*
Noah (ARM) vs KuPS Kuopio (FIN)*
Žilina (SVK)* vs Dila Gori (GEO)

Group 5
FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL)* vs Sligo Rovers (IRL)
Paide Linnameeskond (EST) vs Śląsk Wrocław (POL)*
RFS (LVA) vs KÍ Klaksvík (FRO)*
Bala Town (WAL)* vs Larne (NIR)

Group 6
Fehérvár FC (HUN)* vs Ararat Yerevan (ARM)
Gagra (GEO) vs Sutjeska (MNE)*
Sileks (MKD) vs Petrocub-Hincesti (MDA)*
Široki Brijeg (BIH)* vs Vllaznia (ALB)

Group 7
Stjarnan (ISL)* vs Bohemians (IRL)
Glentoran (NIR) vs The New Saints (WAL)*
Sant Julià (AND) vs Gzira United FC (MLT)*
Europa (GIB)* vs Kauno Žalgiris (LTU)

Group 8
Dundalk (IRL)* vs Newtown (WAL)
Spartak Trnava (SVK)* vs Mosta (MLT)
Struga (MKD) vs Liepāja (LVA)*
Racing FC Union Lëtzebuerg (LUX) vs Breidablik (ISL)*
Honka Espoo (FIN) vs NSÍ Runavík (FRO)*

bingo70
15-06-2021, 01:33 PM
They will work if you copy and paste them. These should be clickable:

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/news/0269-125a0eedca42-5b0b9c095b37-1000--second-qualifying-round-draw-live-on-wednesday/?iv=true (https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/news/0269-125a0eedca42-5b0b9c095b37-1000--second-qualifying-round-draw-live-on-wednesday/?iv=true)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League)

Is there a list within those links of the teams we can play? Sorry if I am being blind but I can’t see it?

H18 SFR
15-06-2021, 01:33 PM
First qualifying round draw:

Group 1
Levadia Tallinn (EST)* vs St Joseph's (GIB)
Inter Turku (FIN) vs Puskás Akadémia (HUN)*
Dečić (MNE) vs Drita (KOS)*
Sūduva (LTU)* vs Valmiera (LVA)

Group 2
La Fiorita 1967 (SMR)* vs Birkirkara (MLT)
Mons Calpe (GIB) vs Santa Coloma (AND)*
Velež (BIH) vs Coleraine (NIR)*
Domžale (SVN)* vs Swift Hesper (LUX)

Group 3
Shkupi 1987 (MKD)* vs Llapi (KOS)
Dinamo Batumi (GEO) vs Tre Penne (SMR)*
Sfintul Gheorghe (MDA) vs Partizani (ALB)*
Maribor (SVN)* vs Urartu (ARM)

Group 4
Laçi (ALB)* vs Podgorica (MNE)
Milsami Orhei (MDA) vs FK Sarajevo (BIH)*
Noah (ARM) vs KuPS Kuopio (FIN)*
Žilina (SVK)* vs Dila Gori (GEO)

Group 5
FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL)* vs Sligo Rovers (IRL)
Paide Linnameeskond (EST) vs Śląsk Wrocław (POL)*
RFS (LVA) vs KÍ Klaksvík (FRO)*
Bala Town (WAL)* vs Larne (NIR)

Group 6
Fehérvár FC (HUN)* vs Ararat Yerevan (ARM)
Gagra (GEO) vs Sutjeska (MNE)*
Sileks (MKD) vs Petrocub-Hincesti (MDA)*
Široki Brijeg (BIH)* vs Vllaznia (ALB)

Group 7
Stjarnan (ISL)* vs Bohemians (IRL)
Glentoran (NIR) vs The New Saints (WAL)*
Sant Julià (AND) vs Gzira United FC (MLT)*
Europa (GIB)* vs Kauno Žalgiris (LTU)

Group 8
Dundalk (IRL)* vs Newtown (WAL)
Spartak Trnava (SVK)* vs Mosta (MLT)
Struga (MKD) vs Liepāja (LVA)*
Racing FC Union Lëtzebuerg (LUX) vs Breidablik (ISL)*
Honka Espoo (FIN) vs NSÍ Runavík (FRO)*


Winner of any of the all Wales/Ireland/Northern Ireland ties please.

bringbackbenny
15-06-2021, 01:38 PM
Is there a list within those links of the teams we can play? Sorry if I am being blind but I can’t see it?

https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedecl2021.html

nonshinyfinish
15-06-2021, 01:47 PM
Is there a list within those links of the teams we can play? Sorry if I am being blind but I can’t see it?

Not that I'm aware of, just helping out with the nonfunctional links.

Hibby70
15-06-2021, 03:33 PM
First qualifying round draw:

Group 1
Levadia Tallinn (EST)* vs St Joseph's (GIB)
Inter Turku (FIN) vs Puskás Akadémia (HUN)*
Dečić (MNE) vs Drita (KOS)*
Sūduva (LTU)* vs Valmiera (LVA)

Group 2
La Fiorita 1967 (SMR)* vs Birkirkara (MLT)
Mons Calpe (GIB) vs Santa Coloma (AND)*
Velež (BIH) vs Coleraine (NIR)*
Domžale (SVN)* vs Swift Hesper (LUX)

Group 3
Shkupi 1987 (MKD)* vs Llapi (KOS)
Dinamo Batumi (GEO) vs Tre Penne (SMR)*
Sfintul Gheorghe (MDA) vs Partizani (ALB)*
Maribor (SVN)* vs Urartu (ARM)

Group 4
Laçi (ALB)* vs Podgorica (MNE)
Milsami Orhei (MDA) vs FK Sarajevo (BIH)*
Noah (ARM) vs KuPS Kuopio (FIN)*
Žilina (SVK)* vs Dila Gori (GEO)

Group 5
FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL)* vs Sligo Rovers (IRL)
Paide Linnameeskond (EST) vs Śląsk Wrocław (POL)*
RFS (LVA) vs KÍ Klaksvík (FRO)*
Bala Town (WAL)* vs Larne (NIR)

Group 6
Fehérvár FC (HUN)* vs Ararat Yerevan (ARM)
Gagra (GEO) vs Sutjeska (MNE)*
Sileks (MKD) vs Petrocub-Hincesti (MDA)*
Široki Brijeg (BIH)* vs Vllaznia (ALB)

Group 7
Stjarnan (ISL)* vs Bohemians (IRL)
Glentoran (NIR) vs The New Saints (WAL)*
Sant Julià (AND) vs Gzira United FC (MLT)*
Europa (GIB)* vs Kauno Žalgiris (LTU)

Group 8
Dundalk (IRL)* vs Newtown (WAL)
Spartak Trnava (SVK)* vs Mosta (MLT)
Struga (MKD) vs Liepāja (LVA)*
Racing FC Union Lëtzebuerg (LUX) vs Breidablik (ISL)*
Honka Espoo (FIN) vs NSÍ Runavík (FRO)*

We've played (at least) 2 of those clubs in Europe before

Green Man
15-06-2021, 03:43 PM
We've played (at least) 2 of those clubs in Europe before

Maribor and Runavik. We’ve also played Fehervar - they’re the modern day incarnation of Videoton.

Hibby70
15-06-2021, 04:48 PM
Maribor and Runavik. We’ve also played Fehervar - they’re the modern day incarnation of Videoton.

I didn't see Runavik. Well done you win a prize.

Diclonius
15-06-2021, 05:11 PM
Christ, imagine if we get Maribor again. Are they the all-conquering side they used to be or have they regressed?

Billy Whizz
15-06-2021, 05:16 PM
Christ, imagine if we get Maribor again. Are they the all-conquering side they used to be or have they regressed?

They lost their league on goal difference, would best be avoided

AliboyFC
15-06-2021, 06:22 PM
They lost their league on goal difference, would best be avoided

Never even heard of them can't be that good.

Magpie
15-06-2021, 06:35 PM
They lost their league on goal difference, would best be avoided

Got knocked out of the Europa League first qualifying round last season by Coleraine who play in Northern Ireland. Not sure if their current squad is as good as a decade or so ago.

Kojock
15-06-2021, 06:36 PM
Never even heard of them can't be that good.

Beat us 3-0 in Maribor then 3-2 at ER in 2010. Maribor was a brilliant trip despite the score.

CapitalGreen
15-06-2021, 06:41 PM
Beat us 3-0 in Maribor then 3-2 at ER in 2010. Maribor was a brilliant trip despite the score.

Home leg was the first game in front of the new East Stand (without fans).

SteveHFC
15-06-2021, 10:12 PM
GROUP 5

Seeded:

1 Gent (BEL)
2 AGF Aarhus (DEN)
3 Dudelange (LUX)
4 Hibernian (SCO)
5 Santa Clara (POR)

Unseeded:

6 Shkupi (MKD) / Llapi (KOS)
7 Vålerenga (NOR)
8 Stjarnan (ISL) - Bohemians (IRL)
9 Mons Calpe (GIB) / FC Santa Coloma (AND)
10 Bala Town (WAL) / Larne (NIR)

Number 9 or 10 please

davhibby
15-06-2021, 10:12 PM
Unseeded:

6 Shkupi (MKD) / Llapi (KOS)
7 Vålerenga (NOR)
8 Stjarnan (ISL) - Bohemians (IRL)
9 Mons Calpe (GIB) / FC Santa Coloma (AND)
10 Bala Town (WAL) / Larne (NIR)

That’s our options, pretty good. Vålerenga the team I’d least like us to get

JeMeSouviens
15-06-2021, 10:28 PM
In other years, Andorra would have been a great trip. It’s duty free!

hibby6270
15-06-2021, 11:04 PM
From the UEFA website, how the draw works.


The UEFA administration has formed nine groups for the main path, each with an equal number of seeded and unseeded sides (five of each in every group).
All the clubs in each of the nine groups are randomly assigned a number: 1 to 5 for the seeded teams and 6 to 10 for the unseeded.
Two bowls are prepared, one for the seeded teams (five balls containing slips numbered 1 to 5) and the other for the unseeded (five balls containing slips numbered 6 to 10).
A ball is taken from each bowl and placed in an empty bowl, where they are shuffled. One of the two balls is drawn at random, then opened to display the number it contains. The second ball is drawn and opened to complete the pairing. The result applies to all nine groups.
For example, if the first ball drawn contains the number 2 and the second the number 8, the clubs that have been assigned the numbers 2 and 8 in each of the nine groups will play one another. The first ball drawn, here containing the number 2, designates the home team for the first leg in all nine ties. The same procedure is carried out with the remaining balls to complete the pairings.


So, by my reckoning ideal draw for us would be ball 4 (us) being drawn with ball 9 or 10.
Then whichever of ball 4 or 9/10 is drawn first will determine who is at home for 1st leg.

So rather than 90 balls in total being drawn, it’s only 10 balls need to be drawn,with each club allocated to their predetermined number. Should speed the draw up!!
Hope I’ve got this right.:thumbsup::greengrin

cabbageandribs1875
16-06-2021, 02:28 AM
i thought Seeded teams normally get the 2nd leg at Home

AliboyFC
16-06-2021, 04:53 AM
i thought Seeded teams normally get the 2nd leg at Home

It's all too complicated 😪

calumhibee1
16-06-2021, 05:23 AM
Not that anyone would have expected it to be possible but it seems uefa have confirmed there can be no away fans at any qualifying rounds in their European competitions.

AliboyFC
16-06-2021, 05:41 AM
What time is the draw?

JimBHibees
16-06-2021, 05:52 AM
Unseeded:

6 Shkupi (MKD) / Llapi (KOS)
7 Vålerenga (NOR)
8 Stjarnan (ISL) - Bohemians (IRL)
9 Mons Calpe (GIB) / FC Santa Coloma (AND)
10 Bala Town (WAL) / Larne (NIR)

That’s our options, pretty good. Vålerenga the team I’d least like us to get

Yes want to avoid teams in the middle of their season so Valarenga best avoided. Here is how they are doing. Currently 6th. Options 9 or 10 on the face of it look best.

https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/eliteserien/table.html

H18 SFR
16-06-2021, 06:29 AM
Tweet doing the round from Glentoran that they have been told by UEFA that there will be no away fans allowed at any games in the qualifying rounds.

Watch us get Bala Town or Larne now.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 06:32 AM
Not that anyone would have expected it to be possible but it seems uefa have confirmed there can be no away fans at any qualifying rounds in their European competitions.

Yes that's correct.

bingo70
16-06-2021, 06:34 AM
Tweet doing the round from Glentoran that they have been told by UEFA that there will be no away fans allowed at any games in the qualifying rounds.

Watch us get Bala Town or Larne now.

I don’t doubt that’s the case but I don’t see what that’s got to do with UEFA?

If local authorities are allowing people in stadiums and the governments allowing travel then i don’t see how or why UEFA could stop them? They were happy for Portugal fans to be in the stadium at Budapest yesterday?

FWIW I think the less travelling the better so Bala town or Larne would bd my preferred draw anyway.

H18 SFR
16-06-2021, 07:03 AM
I don’t doubt that’s the case but I don’t see what that’s got to do with UEFA?

If local authorities are allowing people in stadiums and the governments allowing travel then i don’t see how or why UEFA could stop them? They were happy for Portugal fans to be in the stadium at Budapest yesterday?

FWIW I think the less travelling the better so Bala town or Larne would bd my preferred draw anyway.

I agree with you completely. It’s the decision of public health bodies. UEFA demand fans at the Euros, including away fans which is perfectly acceptable yet they demand no away at this?

Hibbyradge
16-06-2021, 07:13 AM
Beat us 3-0 in Maribor then 3-2 at ER in 2010. Maribor was a brilliant trip despite the score.

It was fantastic except for the rain on the walk back from the ground.

I ended up with the match ball which I got autographed by Paul Hanlon then I sold with the proceeds going to the Dnipro charity.

Ask Blackpool Hibs for more information...

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 07:23 AM
What time is the draw?

1230 UK time. Well, that's when they say the stream starts – they might fanny about for a while before the actual draw.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 07:46 AM
1230 UK time. Well, that's when they say the stream starts – they might fanny about for a while before the actual draw.

I think it's 13:30 UK time.

It says 13:30 CET which is the same as BST.

AliboyFC
16-06-2021, 07:46 AM
1230 UK time. Well, that's when they say the stream starts – they might fanny about for a while before the actual draw.

Is the stream on YouTube if not what is it on?

Hibby70
16-06-2021, 07:49 AM
I think it's 13:30 UK time.

It says 13:30 CET which is the same as BST.

Think CET is 1 hour ahead

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 07:50 AM
Not that anyone would have expected it to be possible but it seems uefa have confirmed there can be no away fans at any qualifying rounds in their European competitions.

Confirmed here.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/026a-1287048dd5e8-a23a8a616dd7-1000/final_memo_annex_i_and_away_supporters_exco_090620 21.pdf

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 07:51 AM
I think it's 13:30 UK time.

It says 13:30 CET which is the same as BST.

Ah right enough. It's an odd way to phrase it when presumably all of Europe is on daylight savings time, but I guess it is unambiguous if you think about it more than I did…

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 07:52 AM
Think CET is 1 hour ahead

SDG is right – CET is an hour ahead of GMT, i.e. the same as BST.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 07:52 AM
Think CET is 1 hour ahead

It's one hour ahead of GMT, we're on BST just now which is one hour ahead of GMT.

Western Europe's on CEST just now but it's 13:30 CET which is the same as 13:30 BST.

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 07:54 AM
Is the stream on YouTube if not what is it on?

Not sure, but I imagine there will be a link to the stream on this page nearer the time: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/

AliboyFC
16-06-2021, 07:57 AM
Not sure, but I imagine there will be a link to the stream on this page nearer the time: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/

Ok cheers. Normally they stream the knockout rounds on YouTube but it will probably be on their website.

Hibby70
16-06-2021, 08:01 AM
It's one hour ahead of GMT, we're on BST just now which is one hour ahead of GMT.

Western Europe's on CEST just now but it's 13:30 CET which is the same as 13:30 BST.

I disagree - current CET is 10:00 (I may be wrong mind you 😁).

Edit I think they will be effectively saying it's CESt thats when the draw is.

PatHead
16-06-2021, 08:03 AM
Confirmed here.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/026a-1287048dd5e8-a23a8a616dd7-1000/final_memo_annex_i_and_away_supporters_exco_090620 21.pdf

So it is okay for fans at the Euros and Champions League final but not for small clubs? Should be on a match by match basis.

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 08:05 AM
I disagree - current CET is 10:00 (I may be wrong mind you ��).

It's not. Just like we're an hour ahead of GMT during the summer, central Europe is an hour ahead of CET during the summer.

CET is UTC+1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B01%3A00), and the current time in UTC+1 is 0905 (https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc1)

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 08:05 AM
I disagree - current CET is 10:00 (I may be wrong mind you 😁).

Current CEST is 10:05.

Check what the time is in Paris right now and it will say 10:05 CEST which is CET+1.

Hibby70
16-06-2021, 08:08 AM
Current CEST is 10:05.

Check what the time is in Paris right now and it will say 10:05 CEST which is CET+1.

Agree, but I think in terms of the draw it will be an hour ahead, they are just using the term CEt when it's really CEST.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 08:12 AM
Agree, but I think in terms of the draw it will be an hour ahead, they are just using the term CEt when it's really CEST.

That would make no sense but I suppose we'll find out when we try and watch it at 12:30.

hibbyfraelibby
16-06-2021, 08:14 AM
It's one hour ahead of GMT, we're on BST just now which is one hour ahead of GMT.

Western Europe's on CEST just now but it's 13:30 CET which is the same as 13:30 BST.

Wish somebody who knew that about my conference call this morming that started at 08.00 CET because I had to join at 07.00 GOST ( good old Scottish time)

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 08:21 AM
Uefa website for the euros has kickoff time as 14:00 17:00 and 20:00

I think CET is the same as BST

CapitalGreen
16-06-2021, 08:29 AM
Uefa website for the euros has kickoff time as 14:00 17:00 and 20:00

I think CET is the same as BST

https://www.google.com/search?q=current+cet+time

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 08:33 AM
Uefa website for the euros has kickoff time as 14:00 17:00 and 20:00

I think CET is the same as BST

Yeah, I can imagine CET sometimes being conflated with "current time in central Europe", as in the case of the poster's conference call above, but I'd be surprised if UEFA did that. Will still have a wee check at 1230 in case they have f***ed up mind.

Edit: where are you seeing those kick-off times labelled as CET? On the main fixtures page (https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/fixtures-results/#/md/33674) I see the same kick-off times, but it says they're listed in the user's local time. Poking around the UEFA site further I think others are correct that they are using CET in the colloquial 'current time in Paris' sense e.g. the "Make Fantasy transfers by 1500 CET" headline here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/

mayo hibee
16-06-2021, 08:36 AM
CET is just a standard way of saying the current time in France and Germany really isn't it? If it's on at half one there it will be half 12 here, they're an hour ahead.

Brightside
16-06-2021, 08:42 AM
If it says CET then that is 1 hr ahead of us right now.

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 08:51 AM
Yeah, I can imagine CET sometimes being conflated with "current time in central Europe", as in the case of the poster's conference call above, but I'd be surprised if UEFA did that. Will still have a wee check at 1230 in case they have f***ed up mind.

Edit: where are you seeing those kick-off times labelled as CET? On the main fixtures page (https://rsc-solutions.atlassian.net/browse/DS-2600) I see the same kick-off times, but it says they're listed in the user's local time. Poking around the UEFA site further I think others are correct that they are using CET in the colloquial 'current time in Paris' sense e.g. the "Make Fantasy transfers by 1500 CET" headline here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/

The fixtures on the second link.

Gorebridge Hibb
16-06-2021, 08:55 AM
If it says CET then that is 1 hr ahead of us right now.
The draw is on the uefa website. I watched first round draw yesterday. Only took 25 minutes

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 08:56 AM
The fixtures on the second link.

Here? https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/fixtures-results/#/md/33674

When I view that page it says "Match kick-offs are listed in your local time" at the top left.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 09:11 AM
If it says CET then that is 1 hr ahead of us right now.

UEFA would be completely wrong if that's the case.

Northernhibee
16-06-2021, 09:16 AM
It's all too complicated 😪

Think to avoid further confusion they should just award us the cup and be done with it. Saves a lot of hassle.

monarch
16-06-2021, 09:17 AM
Yeah, I can imagine CET sometimes being conflated with "current time in central Europe", as in the case of the poster's conference call above, but I'd be surprised if UEFA did that. Will still have a wee check at 1230 in case they have f***ed up mind.

Edit: where are you seeing those kick-off times labelled as CET? On the main fixtures page (https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/fixtures-results/#/md/33674) I see the same kick-off times, but it says they're listed in the user's local time. Poking around the UEFA site further I think others are correct that they are using CET in the colloquial 'current time in Paris' sense e.g. the "Make Fantasy transfers by 1500 CET" headline here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/
Jeez, the timings seem to be even more complicated than the draw itself.

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 09:18 AM
Think to avoid further confusion they should just award us the cup and be done with it. Saves a lot of hassle.

I've gone back and forward twice on what I think UEFA mean, but in the absence of signings or decent rumours or anything it's certainly helped to pass the, er, time.

Bristolhibby
16-06-2021, 09:21 AM
In other years, Andorra would have been a great trip. It’s duty free!

Went skiing there a couple of years ago. Great place, very small, very walkable.

J

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 09:26 AM
Yeah, I can imagine CET sometimes being conflated with "current time in central Europe", as in the case of the poster's conference call above, but I'd be surprised if UEFA did that. Will still have a wee check at 1230 in case they have f***ed up mind.

Edit: where are you seeing those kick-off times labelled as CET? On the main fixtures page (https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/fixtures-results/#/md/33674) I see the same kick-off times, but it says they're listed in the user's local time. Poking around the UEFA site further I think others are correct that they are using CET in the colloquial 'current time in Paris' sense e.g. the "Make Fantasy transfers by 1500 CET" headline here: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/

Yes I've just checked my Euro 2020 fantasy app and it's telling me that the deadline for making changes to my team ahead of matchday 2 is 15:00 CET which is 15:00 BST and therefore the first half of the first game will already have been played so that cannot be correct.

Baffling from UEFA that they have got that wrong but seems the draw might be on at 12:30 BST after all.

EDIT - Just seen this page which converted it into my local time and it's definitely 12:30 BST even although it still says 13:30 CET underneath which is wrong.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/draws/2022/2001495/

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 09:30 AM
Yes I've just checked my Euro 2020 fantasy app and it's telling me that the deadline for making changes to my team ahead of matchday 2 is 15:00 CET which is 15:00 BST and therefore the first half of the first game will already have been played so that cannot be correct.

Baffling from UEFA that they have got that wrong but seems the draw might be on at 12:30 BST after all.

It's the difference between technically correct (BST = GMT+1 = CET) and what may be common usage (CET = current time in Paris at any time of year).

Do people use GMT in the same way? If someone invited me to a conference call tomorrow at 0900 GMT, I wouldn't assume that meant "0900 UK time", I'd have to go back to them to figure out what they meant.

CapitalGreen
16-06-2021, 09:30 AM
Yes I've just checked my Euro 2020 fantasy app and it's telling me that the deadline for making changes to my team ahead of matchday 2 is 15:00 CET which is 15:00 BST and therefore the first half of the first game will already have been played so that cannot be correct.

Baffling from UEFA that they have got that wrong but seems the draw might be on at 12:30 BST after all.

EDIT - Just seen this page which converted it into my local time and it's definitely 12:30 BST even although it still says 13:30 CET underneath which is wrong.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/draws/2022/2001495/

https://www.google.com/search?q=current+cet+time

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 09:33 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=current+cet+time

Yep all of them have CEST in brackets next to them except Algiers and Tunisia which have CET and they're both at the same time as us.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 09:37 AM
It's the difference between technically correct (BST = GMT+1 = CET) and what may be common usage (CET = current time in Paris at any time of year).

Do people use GMT in the same way? If someone invited me to a conference call tomorrow at 0900 GMT, I wouldn't assume that meant "0900 UK time", I'd have to go back to them to figure out what they meant.

If someone told me a conference call started at 9am GMT I'd join them at 10am knowing full well they really meant 9am BST but act smart when they try to pull me up for being an hour late. :greengrin

DIXIHIBS
16-06-2021, 09:43 AM
Only on hibs.net. Thead about euro draw. 1 page on who we might play....2 pages arguing about the time. Brilliant.

JeMeSouviens
16-06-2021, 09:54 AM
Only on hibs.net. Thead about euro draw. 1 page on who we might play....2 pages arguing about the time. Brilliant.

Stay tuned - the puns haven't broken out yet. :wink:

Fuzzywuzzy
16-06-2021, 09:59 AM
I went to a Bala qualifying tie against tre fiora a few years back. They used Rhylls ground for the game

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 10:02 AM
Stay tuned - the puns haven't broken out yet. :wink:

I'm clocking off until 12:30 😉

Ringothedog
16-06-2021, 10:09 AM
Went skiing there a couple of years ago. Great place, very small, very walkable.

J

From Edinburgh?

seanshow
16-06-2021, 10:44 AM
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/2022/2001304/

Clicked on this link and saw the draw Hibernian away in Estonia and then realised it was Hibernians [Malta] :greengrin

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 10:47 AM
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/2022/2001304/ (https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/2022/2001304/)

Clicked on this link and saw the draw Hibernian away in Estonia and then realised it was Hibernians [Malta] :greengrin

What time is kickoff? :duck:

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 10:47 AM
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/draws/2022/2001495/


45 minutes to go.

madjock9
16-06-2021, 10:48 AM
So if for example I live in Ireland and we draw an Irish team do you think I would be classed as an away fan or do I go along and sit on my hands when we score!

H18 SFR
16-06-2021, 10:49 AM
No away fans confirmed:

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/026a-1287048dd5e8-a23a8a616dd7-1000/final_memo_annex_i_and_away_supporters_exco_090620 21.pdf

In consideration of the very high number of matches foreseen by the programme of the qualifying phaseand play-offs of the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Europa Conference Leagueand the fact that all rounds in the new season will again be played over two legs (while last year theywere reduced to a single leg behind closed doors), it seems prudent to propose that travelling fans willnot be admitted during the entire qualifying phase and play-offs. With this decision UEFA intends to actresponsibly at a time where restrictive measures are still in place in order to avoid the spread of infections,while sporting fairness is preserved as every team will have the possibility to enjoy the support of theirpublic when playing at home, in compliance with the decision of their competent authority.The situation will be re-examined for the group stage of the three competitions.

GreenNWhiteArmy
16-06-2021, 10:57 AM
From Edinburgh?

genuine laugh out loud

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 10:59 AM
In other news Celtc have drawn a team of vertical challenged from Denmark in the champions league qualifiers 😉

Diclonius
16-06-2021, 10:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3_YwaaWEAEInSY?format=jpg&name=medium

Shkupi and Llapi will be potential banana skins. Valerenga will be tough. Rest are fine.

Stuart93
16-06-2021, 11:25 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3_YwaaWEAEInSY?format=jpg&name=medium

Shkupi and Llapi will be potential banana skins. Valerenga will be tough. Rest are fine.

I’m surprised so many people know so much about Valerenga, I’m maybe being a bit naive but I know nothing about them. Are they decent or?

Argylehibby
16-06-2021, 11:28 AM
Draw on YouTube

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rBfudZ8snDs

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 11:29 AM
I’m surprised so many people know so much about Valerenga, I’m maybe being a bit naive but I know nothing about them. Are they decent or?

The point I think is that they are Norwegian and will be in the middle their season.

davhibby
16-06-2021, 11:29 AM
I’m surprised so many people know so much about Valerenga, I’m maybe being a bit naive but I know nothing about them. Are they decent or?

I think it’s probably an assumption since they’re the only team from a decent league. Aberdeen beat Viking away from home in the qualifiers last season so I don’t see how we’d not be favourites to beat Valerenga, but it would be the hardest game we could have

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 11:29 AM
What time is kickoff? :duck:

19:45 CET :greengrin

Hibby70
16-06-2021, 11:31 AM
19:45 CET :greengrin

Is that Algerian CET?

Tambo
16-06-2021, 11:31 AM
I’m guessing premier will show the away legs?

EI255
16-06-2021, 11:37 AM
Could do with a trip to Dublin v Bohs [emoji57]

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Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 11:51 AM
Mons Calpe Sports Club or Santa Coloma.

Think we're at home first leg.

SteveHFC
16-06-2021, 11:51 AM
Mons Calpe Sports Club or FC Santa Coloma.

That would have been a great trip

Iain G
16-06-2021, 11:51 AM
So Gibraltar or Andorra?

JimBHibees
16-06-2021, 11:52 AM
Best draw we could have got imo. :greengrin

bringbackbenny
16-06-2021, 11:53 AM
who did the sheep get ?

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 11:53 AM
who did the sheep get ?

Not out yet.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 11:54 AM
So Gibraltar or Andorra?

Yep.

Magpie
16-06-2021, 11:55 AM
Should see us into the next qualifying round.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 11:56 AM
Should see us into the next qualifying round.

You'd like to think so.

Since90+2
16-06-2021, 11:56 AM
Only stumbling block might be Gibraltar will be absolutely roasting when we play there. Let's remember Celtic were beaten by Red Imps so I wouldn't say it's a gimme but we are strong favourites.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 11:57 AM
Aberdeen v BK Hacken (Sweden).

Tough draw.

Stuart93
16-06-2021, 11:59 AM
You'd like to think so.

If your getting beat from teams like that after all the effort you’ve put in to get there the season before we’d be better just folding

lucky
16-06-2021, 11:59 AM
Are fans allowed into games at Gibraltar? If so we can travel there as it’s a green list country.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:00 PM
Are fans allowed into games at Gibraltar? If so we can travel there as it’s a green list country.

Away fans are banned by UEFA for all qualifiers.

Since452
16-06-2021, 12:01 PM
Gibraltar would be a great trip

Magpie
16-06-2021, 12:01 PM
Aberdeen v BK Hacken (Sweden).

Tough draw.

Should be tough. They are currently bottom of their league after 8 games though with only one win. Being quite a bit into their season will give them an advantage fitness wise anyway you would imagine.

Argylehibby
16-06-2021, 12:01 PM
What was the comment at the end about some ties being provisional awaiting outcome of legal proceedings about?

davhibby
16-06-2021, 12:01 PM
Only stumbling block might be Gibraltar will be absolutely roasting when we play there. Let's remember Celtic were beaten by Red Imps so I wouldn't say it's a gimme but we are strong favourites.

That shouldn’t matter because we should be about 6 up from the first leg at home. Red Imps were also the champions when that happened, Mons Calpe finished 4th last season.

CmoantheHibs
16-06-2021, 12:01 PM
Got to be happy with that draw.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:02 PM
What was the comment at the end about some ties being provisional awaiting outcome of legal proceedings about?

Maybe clubs that haven't got the correct documentation or clubs who have been bumped up a place due to points deductions etc.

Brightside
16-06-2021, 12:02 PM
Away fans are banned by UEFA for all qualifiers.

Has that actually been confirmed by UEFA. Surely a country by country decision.

H18 SFR
16-06-2021, 12:03 PM
Has that actually been confirmed by UEFA. Surely a country by country decision.

In consideration of the very high number of matches foreseen by the programme of the qualifying phaseand play-offs of the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Europa Conference Leagueand the fact that all rounds in the new season will again be played over two legs (while last year theywere reduced to a single leg behind closed doors), it seems prudent to propose that travelling fans willnot be admitted during the entire qualifying phase and play-offs. With this decision UEFA intends to actresponsibly at a time where restrictive measures are still in place in order to avoid the spread of infections,while sporting fairness is preserved as every team will have the possibility to enjoy the support of theirpublic when playing at home, in compliance with the decision of their competent authority.The situation will be re-examined for the group stage of the three competitions.

Gorebridge Hibb
16-06-2021, 12:03 PM
What was the comment at the end about some ties being provisional awaiting outcome of legal proceedings about?

Going to book for Gib, 27th to 31st. £210 run direct from Edinburgh

MyJo
16-06-2021, 12:04 PM
Aberdeen v BK Hacken (Sweden).

Tough draw.

Currently bottom of the league after 8 games with only 1 win.

EI255
16-06-2021, 12:05 PM
Gibraltar would be a great tripAnd on the green list!!

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Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:06 PM
Only stumbling block might be Gibraltar will be absolutely roasting when we play there. Let's remember Celtic were beaten by Red Imps so I wouldn't say it's a gimme but we are strong favourites.

The team finishing 4th in the Gibraltar National League really shouldn't pose us any trouble.

I fully expect us to win against either team quite comfortably.

Brightside
16-06-2021, 12:07 PM
In consideration of the very high number of matches foreseen by the programme of the qualifying phaseand play-offs of the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Europa Conference Leagueand the fact that all rounds in the new season will again be played over two legs (while last year theywere reduced to a single leg behind closed doors), it seems prudent to propose that travelling fans willnot be admitted during the entire qualifying phase and play-offs. With this decision UEFA intends to actresponsibly at a time where restrictive measures are still in place in order to avoid the spread of infections,while sporting fairness is preserved as every team will have the possibility to enjoy the support of theirpublic when playing at home, in compliance with the decision of their competent authority.The situation will be re-examined for the group stage of the three competitions.

Thats poor. A blanket decision makes no sense. Doesnt stop us going there of course.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:08 PM
Has that actually been confirmed by UEFA. Surely a country by country decision.

Yes confirmed here.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources...o_09062021.pdf

H18 SFR
16-06-2021, 12:08 PM
Going to book for Gib, 27th to 31st. £210 run direct from Edinburgh

They changed their COVID entry requirements three days ago, you now need to be double vaccinated.

Hibby70
16-06-2021, 12:09 PM
Going to book for Gib, 27th to 31st. £210 run direct from Edinburgh

Only a 13 hour drive to Andorra 😁

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 12:10 PM
They changed their COVID entry requirements three days ago, you now need to be double vaccinated.

And we might be playing in Andorra, and we won't be allowed in to the game anyway, so all in all I'd probably hold off on booking.

Since90+2
16-06-2021, 12:10 PM
The team finishing 4th in the Gibraltar National League really shouldn't pose us any trouble.

I fully expect us to win against either team quite comfortably.

So do I but I wouldn't say it's the easiest draw we could have had.

The trip, the potential heat during the game and a perhaps more technical style of football as opposed to Bala town for instance for me means it could have been easier.

Still, as I said in my original post, we are strong favourites.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:10 PM
Yes confirmed here.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources...o_09062021.pdf

Sorry broken link - it's here.

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/026a-1287048dd5e8-a23a8a616dd7-1000/final_memo_annex_i_and_away_supporters_exco_090620 21.pdf

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 12:15 PM
Folk talking about travelling to the away games when it is clear away fans are banned, hell, we don't even know if we can get into the home game or not.

Billy Whizz
16-06-2021, 12:20 PM
So do I but I wouldn't say it's the easiest draw we could have had.

The trip, the potential heat during the game and a perhaps more technical style of football as opposed to Bala town for instance for me means it could have been easier.

Still, as I said in my original post, we are strong favourites.

Where the Gibraltar team finished in their league

Diclonius
16-06-2021, 12:23 PM
We've been drawn against the equivalent of a low Scottish League One/high League Two team. Let's not beat around the bush, we SHOULD win this comfortably.

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:25 PM
We've been drawn against the equivalent of a low Scottish League One/high League Two team. Let's not beat around the bush, we SHOULD win this comfortably.

:agree: It's probably the equivalent of us drawing Dumbarton.

MWHIBBIES
16-06-2021, 12:26 PM
Skoosh

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 12:26 PM
We've been drawn against the equivalent of a low Scottish League One/high League Two team. Let's not beat around the bush, we SHOULD win this comfortably.


:agree: It's probably the equivalent of us drawing Dumbarton.

So what you're saying is we should expect a tough game, not a total gimme like if we'd drawn the equivalent of Brora?

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:32 PM
So what you're saying is we should expect a tough game, not a total gimme like if we'd drawn the equivalent of Brora?

We beat Brora comfortably at Easter Road last season. :wink:

Edinburgh Green
16-06-2021, 12:32 PM
Where the Gibraltar team finished in their league

The goal differences between the top 3 and the rest should tell you about the standard.

Billy Whizz
16-06-2021, 12:39 PM
The goal differences between the top 3 and the rest should tell you about the standard.

Andorra team position

nonshinyfinish
16-06-2021, 12:40 PM
We beat Brora comfortably at Easter Road last season. :wink:

Exactly, unthinkable that a team with our resources or similar wouldn't do so.

Pagan Hibernia
16-06-2021, 12:41 PM
What a great draw for us. Couldn’t have been much better really

Slim Shady
16-06-2021, 12:44 PM
Booked - Manchester to Gibraltar on the Wednesday - return to Edinburgh in the Saturday.

Big gamble but looking forward to a few days in the sun.

Billy Whizz
16-06-2021, 12:50 PM
Booked - Manchester to Gibraltar on the Wednesday - return to Edinburgh in the Saturday.

Big gamble but looking forward to a few days in the sun.

I’d have thought Hibs would have said by now, to discourage fans to travel

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:51 PM
Booked - Manchester to Gibraltar on the Wednesday - return to Edinburgh in the Saturday.

Big gamble but looking forward to a few days in the sun.

Do you just plan on watching the game in a pub?

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 12:51 PM
Booked - Manchester to Gibraltar on the Wednesday - return to Edinburgh in the Saturday.

Big gamble but looking forward to a few days in the sun.

Could you not have done Benidorm and hired a car, hedge your bets as it's midway 😉

S4uzee
16-06-2021, 12:58 PM
Why are we not in the Europa League qualifiers for finishing 3rd?

Sir David Gray
16-06-2021, 12:59 PM
Why are we not in the Europa League qualifiers for finishing 3rd?

Scotland only got one place in the Europa League which goes to the Scottish Cup winners.

scoopyboy
16-06-2021, 01:02 PM
Booked - Manchester to Gibraltar on the Wednesday - return to Edinburgh in the Saturday.

Big gamble but looking forward to a few days in the sun.

Hope it works out for you, I take it you realise they are the unseeded team and the Andorran side will be favourites to go through.

Slim Shady
16-06-2021, 01:02 PM
Do you just plan on watching the game in a pub?

Booked extra luggage.

1 pair of pants. Change of shorts, few hibs tops and a set of telescopic ladders.

marinello59
16-06-2021, 01:03 PM
Booked - Manchester to Gibraltar on the Wednesday - return to Edinburgh in the Saturday.

Big gamble but looking forward to a few days in the sun.


I’ve booked flights to Albania in May for the final. Can’t wait. C’mon the Hibees. :flag:

Gorebridge Hibb
16-06-2021, 01:10 PM
They changed their COVID entry requirements three days ago, you now need to be double vaccinated.

Double jabbed. Good to go.....

Since90+2
16-06-2021, 01:12 PM
Theres worse places to be than Gilbrator I suppose it the Andorran side end up winning.

flash
16-06-2021, 01:14 PM
I would say the Andorran team are more likely to go through.

Slim Shady
16-06-2021, 01:18 PM
Hope it works out for you, I take it you realise they are the unseeded team and the Andorran side will be favourites to go through.

Managed to book a return Edinburgh - Barcelona- same dates for £21

Happy to lose £21 if it’s Gibraltar

Moulin Yarns
16-06-2021, 01:30 PM
Managed to book a return Edinburgh - Barcelona- same dates for £21

Happy to lose £21 if it’s Gibraltar

3 hours drive 👍

Bristolhibby
16-06-2021, 01:36 PM
3 hours drive 👍

Did exactly that when I went skiing. Flew Gatwick to Barcelona, hired a car, drove up through the mountains to Andorra.

Leave some room for some booze in your luggage. Muchos cheapos.

J

BigKev
16-06-2021, 01:36 PM
UEFA confirm no away fans allowed and folk are booking up?

Since90+2
16-06-2021, 01:42 PM
UEFA confirm no away fans allowed and folk are booking up?

We are the Hibees we do what we want.

Garymcl
16-06-2021, 01:53 PM
F@@k Uefa we will do what we want hibees here hibees there hibees every f@@king where na na na :hibees:greengrin:flag:

scoopyboy
16-06-2021, 02:03 PM
Managed to book a return Edinburgh - Barcelona- same dates for £21

Happy to lose £21 if it’s Gibraltar

Got all the options covered, well done you:aok:

Dalianwanda
16-06-2021, 02:39 PM
We are the Hibees we do what we want.

Hmmm...Just the attitude The Rangers fans showed the other week

IberianHibernian
16-06-2021, 02:52 PM
Another problem with booking early is possible reversal of fixtures . If Gib team get through , there`s a good chance other teams which share the stadium will also have matches and match order could change .

DIXIHIBS
16-06-2021, 03:21 PM
So uefa are quite happy for away fans at their high profilex euro 2020 but not at qualifiers? If Gibraltar still on green list then it's perfectly okay to take a few days break there and maybe take in a local football match!

Billy Whizz
16-06-2021, 03:26 PM
Another problem with booking early is possible reversal of fixtures . If Gib team get through , there`s a good chance other teams which share the stadium will also have matches and match order could change .

Good point

Also the small matter of 4 Covid tests, before and after the trip
Looking at around £200 min

Nakedmanoncrack
16-06-2021, 03:47 PM
Good point

Also the small matter of 4 Covid tests, before and after the trip
Looking at around £200 min

Where are you getting 4 tests?
Looks like nothing before you get there if vaccinated, have to do one within 24hrs of arrival, not sure about return.


"If you have only been in countries or territories on the green list in the 10 days preceding your arrival in Gibraltar by air and are fully vaccinated, then you must upload your vaccination certificate on the Passenger Locator Form. You must book a COVID-19 lateral flow test before arriving in Gibraltar. This test must take place within 24 hours of arrival. If you are remaining for more than 7 days, you must also take a second test on day 5."

Lago
16-06-2021, 04:04 PM
We are the Hibees we do what we want.
Scottish Government will soon sort that. 😁

Billy Whizz
16-06-2021, 04:12 PM
Where are you getting 4 tests?
Looks like nothing before you get there if vaccinated, have to do one within 24hrs of arrival, not sure about return.


"If you have only been in countries or territories on the green list in the 10 days preceding your arrival in Gibraltar by air and are fully vaccinated, then you must upload your vaccination certificate on the Passenger Locator Form. You must book a COVID-19 lateral flow test before arriving in Gibraltar. This test must take place within 24 hours of arrival. If you are remaining for more than 7 days, you must also take a second test on day 5."

The 4 are
1 before you go
2nd arrive in Gib
3 before you leave Gib
4 within 2 days of arriving back in the U.K.

This was the system for “green” Portugal 2 weeks ago, one of my customers and his partner told me this
Think the U.K. ones were £69 each and the 2 lateral flow tests were €39 Euros each

Since90+2
16-06-2021, 04:17 PM
Hmmm...Just the attitude The Rangers fans showed the other week

I wasn't being entirely serious. Just a quick nod to a sometimes sung song.

To be fair though if someone wants to take the chance and book Gilbrator now then I don't think anyone can have any issues with that. A few days in guaranteed sunshine and perhaps the chance to see Hibs in Europe.

LancsHibs
16-06-2021, 04:46 PM
Don’t really care about UEFAs rules, if it’s the Gib team I will be going😉🇬🇮

hfcok
16-06-2021, 04:49 PM
The 4 are
1 before you go
2nd arrive in Gib
3 before you leave Gib
4 within 2 days of arriving back in the U.K.

This was the system for “green” Portugal 2 weeks ago, one of my customers and his partner told me this
Think the U.K. ones were £69 each and the 2 lateral flow tests were €39 Euros each

If you are fully vaccinated, you don’t need one B4 you go to Gibraltar, the others 2-4 mentioned you need to do, as long as you upload on passenger form, and take a copy of vac certificate with you.

Carheenlea
16-06-2021, 04:57 PM
I get the feeling that Jack Ross teams might be well suited to European football. Similar perhaps to Derek McKinnes’s sides who had some good runs.

Fully expect to see the Spirits in the Sky flag on display regardless of opponents are and whether fans are permitted or not.

hibbyfraelibby
16-06-2021, 05:03 PM
Got all the options covered, well done you:aok:

...and the 10 days quarantine/self isolation on return not to mention the cost of the Covid tests before you fly in both directions...oh and a possible £10k fine for being a prat and travelling via an amber list country? You got that covered right?

EI255
16-06-2021, 05:14 PM
Good point

Also the small matter of 4 Covid tests, before and after the trip
Looking at around £200 minTo hell with that. No thanks.

Flights won't be cheap either.

Very expensive trip.

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Billy Whizz
16-06-2021, 05:15 PM
If you are fully vaccinated, you don’t need one B4 you go to Gibraltar, the others 2-4 mentioned you need to do, as long as you upload on passenger form, and take a copy of vac certificate with you.

Thanks for clarifying.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/gibraltar/entry-requirements

I’d read carefully if you’re entering Gibraltar via Spain, which is Amber just now

HH81
16-06-2021, 05:24 PM
Don’t really care about UEFAs rules, if it’s the Gib team I will be going😉🇬🇮

Where would you fly from Manchester?

Dalianwanda
16-06-2021, 05:33 PM
I wasn't being entirely serious. Just a quick nod to a sometimes sung song.

To be fair though if someone wants to take the chance and book Gilbrator now then I don't think anyone can have any issues with that. A few days in guaranteed sunshine and perhaps the chance to see Hibs in Europe.

Sorry I wasnt picking you out specifically (apart from replying to your post :wink: No offence meant...Yeah I agree if its a green zone then whats to stop fans from travelling to the sun even though for the game its been stated away fans wont be catered for.

hfcok
16-06-2021, 05:39 PM
Thanks for clarifying.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/gibraltar/entry-requirements

I’d read carefully if you’re entering Gibraltar via Spain, which is Amber just now
Yes your right, would not be worth going over the border to Spain, as lots more tests involved in Gib, and the UK.

Iggy Pope
16-06-2021, 06:05 PM
I love these European threads and the exchange of information. Honestly though, if you’ve nothing constructive to report there’s really no point in shouting at the folks that do or calling them names. It’s never cheap, ever. It’s never easy and this time it might be close to impossible but let’s allow folk to have a gas about it. Some will be there, no doubt about that.

JohnMcM
16-06-2021, 06:10 PM
I love these European threads and the exchange of information. Honestly though, if you’ve nothing constructive to report there’s really no point in shouting at the folks that do or calling them names. It’s never cheap, ever. It’s never easy and this time it might be close to impossible but let’s allow folk to have a gas about it. Some will be there, no doubt about that.

Well said. No one knows what the COVID situation might be when the time comes. It will however cost a small fortune to be there (wherever there will be). At this very moment it feels like a tv in an Edinburgh pub will be my viewing. :greengrin

Slim Shady
16-06-2021, 08:34 PM
...and the 10 days quarantine/self isolation on return not to mention the cost of the Covid tests before you fly in both directions...oh and a possible £10k fine for being a prat and travelling via an amber list country? You got that covered right?

Do you sit in the house with a silver foil hat on?

EI255
16-06-2021, 08:35 PM
Well said. No one knows what the COVID situation might be when the time comes. It will however cost a small fortune to be there (wherever there will be). At this very moment it feels like a tv in an Edinburgh pub will be my viewing. :greengrinI'll take that rather than risk catching covid abroad.

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Slim Shady
16-06-2021, 08:36 PM
I love these European threads and the exchange of information. Honestly though, if you’ve nothing constructive to report there’s really no point in shouting at the folks that do or calling them names. It’s never cheap, ever. It’s never easy and this time it might be close to impossible but let’s allow folk to have a gas about it. Some will be there, no doubt about that.

Correct.

Looking forward to an adventure of following my beloved team in Europe. Will it be easy to get there and back no. All part of journey.

After being stuck in the house for 18 months. I can’t wait.

Be a laugh trying to get into the game as well.

hibbyfraelibby
16-06-2021, 08:40 PM
Do you sit in the house with a silver foil hat on?

Yup... I've been double jabbed with the vaccine so the tinfoil stops Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg tracking me.😷😷😷

CapitalGreen
16-06-2021, 08:54 PM
I love these European threads and the exchange of information. Honestly though, if you’ve nothing constructive to report there’s really no point in shouting at the folks that do or calling them names. It’s never cheap, ever. It’s never easy and this time it might be close to impossible but let’s allow folk to have a gas about it. Some will be there, no doubt about that.

Great post, can’t beat a bit of European adventure planning. Unfortunately I won’t be able to attend this one as I’ve another trip planned which coincides with the away leg but if I was free I’d certainly be looking into going to Gibraltar - even if it ends up being Andorra a few days in the sun would be welcome. As for tickets to the game, I don’t imagine it will be particularly difficult to get ahold of home tickets by befriending some locals before you go who can sort you out or picking some up while you’re over there.

CapitalGreen
16-06-2021, 08:56 PM
I'll take that rather than risk catching covid abroad.

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You’ve a significantly greater chance of catching Covid in Edinburgh at the moment than you do in Gibraltar.

w pilton hibby
17-06-2021, 09:01 AM
Hibs fans dealt European blow as UEFA bans supporters from attending away games

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-fans-dealt-european-blow-20836568

vercol36
17-06-2021, 09:20 AM
Hibs fans dealt European blow as UEFA bans supporters from attending away games

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-fans-dealt-european-blow-20836568


Hope no one booked their tickets yet, like some were suggesting on this thread!!

Though, saying that, they might still catch a glimpse of the Hibs team at the airport :greengrin

Andy74
17-06-2021, 09:27 AM
Hope no one booked their tickets yet, like some were suggesting on this thread!!

Though, saying that, they might still catch a glimpse of the Hibs team at the airport :greengrin

I think everyone was aware of this and travelling anyway. Nothing to stop people doing so and I’d say there’s an excellent chance of picking up home tickets there.

Since90+2
17-06-2021, 09:28 AM
Hope no one booked their tickets yet, like some were suggesting on this thread!!

Though, saying that, they might still catch a glimpse of the Hibs team at the airport :greengrin

This was already common knowledge when folks were booking up.

I have absolutely no doubt that they'll be Hibs fans in the ground in either Gilbrator or Andorra. Might only be a small number but they'll be there.

Scorrie
17-06-2021, 09:28 AM
Wonder if it will be in tv then or Hibs TV?

Sir David Gray
17-06-2021, 09:33 AM
Wonder if it will be in tv then or Hibs TV?

Either Premier Sports or Hibs TV would be my guess.

CropleyWasGod
17-06-2021, 09:33 AM
How will UEFA enforce the ban? Will it be the responsibility of the home club?

Moulin Yarns
17-06-2021, 09:36 AM
How will UEFA enforce the ban? Will it be the responsibility of the home club?

Buy a half and half scarf outside the ground 😉

Or, as both teams play in red and white, wear a red shirt.

Sir David Gray
17-06-2021, 09:38 AM
How will UEFA enforce the ban? Will it be the responsibility of the home club?

They just won't hand over any tickets to the visiting club to allow them to purchase tickets in a designated away section of the stadium.

I'm not sure what will happen if 1,000 people with Edinburgh postcodes apply for tickets directly to either Mons Calpe SC or FC Santa Coloma.

JeMeSouviens
17-06-2021, 09:40 AM
If it's the Gib team, I think you can see into the ground from the Rock. Take your binoculars

MagicSwirlingShip
17-06-2021, 09:40 AM
Would be a fun trip regardless of going to the actual match, sit with a bunch of Hibees in the sun, have a few beers, watch the match… what’s not to like.

CapitalGreen
17-06-2021, 09:42 AM
How will UEFA enforce the ban? Will it be the responsibility of the home club?

UEFA are just banning the exchange of tickets with away clubs to sell. UEFA are powerless to prevent someone from Edinburgh or wherever purchasing a ticket for the home end in Gibraltar/Andorra.

where'stheslope
17-06-2021, 09:43 AM
Reported, 30,000 Turkish fans in Baku last night, yet EUFA won't let Scottish fans travel????
What is the vaccine really worth????

PatHead
17-06-2021, 09:44 AM
Reported, 30,000 Turkish fans in Baku last night, yet EUFA won't let Scottish fans travel????
What is the vaccine really worth????

I am double jagged and have contracted it. Locked in the house for another 8 days.

CapitalGreen
17-06-2021, 09:46 AM
Reported, 30,000 Turkish fans in Baku last night, yet EUFA won't let Scottish fans travel????
What is the vaccine really worth????

There is estimates of 40,000 to 100,000+ Turks living is Azerbaijan.

scoopyboy
17-06-2021, 09:55 AM
I am double jagged and have contracted it. Locked in the house for another 8 days.

Sorry to hear that, how are you feeling?

PatHead
17-06-2021, 09:59 AM
Sorry to hear that, how are you feeling?

Tired and frustrated. Wee bit hot but not bad.

Think it would be worse if I hadn't had my injections. Got it from my daughter who is a school teacher and is a lot worse than me. Funny thing is that my wife hasn't picked it up yet. She has also been double jagged.

Proves that you still need to follow the guidelines.

Chorley Hibee
17-06-2021, 10:02 AM
Reported, 30,000 Turkish fans in Baku last night, yet EUFA won't let Scottish fans travel????
What is the vaccine really worth????

UEFA had no trouble issuing tickets to fans to travel the length and breadth of Europe when it came to the glamour of Euro 2020.

Likewise, governments had no issue with admitting supporters from across Europe either, this despite the variant scare stories.

Good luck to all the Hibees travelling, I hope to be one of them as well.

Oscar T Grouch
17-06-2021, 10:15 AM
Either Premier Sports or Hibs TV would be my guess.

BT Sport have the UK rights to all UEFA competitions until 2024. They get first choice of all 420 games in those three tournaments, maybe there are other companies who have secondary choice but I could not find any info on that.

Hibby70
17-06-2021, 10:21 AM
If anyone is going to Gibraltar watch out for the pesky wee hairy primates stealing your belongings and urinating on you.

Some Rangers fans never made it home after their game against red imps.

Oscar T Grouch
17-06-2021, 10:22 AM
If it's the Gib team, I think you can see into the ground from the Rock. Take your binoculars

Victoria Stadium is in a sports complex next to the airport so quite far from the rock (relatively as everywhere is near the rock in Gib!), there are apartments right next to the ground which would be a better bet. We need someone to Air B&B the top floor and we'll all be sorted :greengrin

Sir David Gray
17-06-2021, 10:33 AM
BT Sport have the UK rights to all UEFA competitions until 2024. They get first choice of all 420 games in those three tournaments, maybe there are other companies who have secondary choice but I could not find any info on that.

Is that including the qualifiers?

Last year the Riga v Celtic Europa League match was on Premier Sport but the main competition was on BT Sport.

CapitalGreen
17-06-2021, 10:34 AM
BT Sport have the UK rights to all UEFA competitions until 2024. They get first choice of all 420 games in those three tournaments, maybe there are other companies who have secondary choice but I could not find any info on that.

Those rights BT hold don’t apply to the qualifying rounds.

AliboyFC
17-06-2021, 10:41 AM
Either Premier Sports or Hibs TV would be my guess.

Bt sports or hibs tv i think because bt have the rights for the europa and champions league.

Sir David Gray
17-06-2021, 10:43 AM
Bt sports or hibs tv i think because bt have the rights for the europa and champions league.

I don't believe BT Sport hold the rights to the qualifiers.

Billy Whizz
17-06-2021, 10:53 AM
I don't believe BT Sport hold the rights to the qualifiers.

All the games pre group stages, are always on Premier
With them also having the League cup, it’s a worthwhile investment for around £9.99 per month

Oscar T Grouch
17-06-2021, 11:11 AM
Is that including the qualifiers?

Last year the Riga v Celtic Europa League match was on Premier Sport but the main competition was on BT Sport.


Those rights BT hold don’t apply to the qualifying rounds.


All the games pre group stages, are always on Premier
With them also having the League cup, it’s a worthwhile investment for around £9.99 per month

Oops my bad, thanks for the info :thumbsup:

Jamesie
17-06-2021, 11:40 AM
Tired and frustrated. Wee bit hot but not bad.

Think it would be worse if I hadn't had my injections. Got it from my daughter who is a school teacher and is a lot worse than me. Funny thing is that my wife hasn't picked it up yet. She has also been double jagged.

Proves that you still need to follow the guidelines.

Sorry to hear that and hope you’re on the mend soon. How long after the second jag did you contract it, if you don’t mind me asking?

PatHead
17-06-2021, 12:21 PM
Sorry to hear that and hope you’re on the mend soon. How long after the second jag did you contract it, if you don’t mind me asking?

2nd Jag was May 18th. Tested on Tuesday.

Billy Whizz
17-06-2021, 12:33 PM
2nd Jag was May 18th. Tested on Tuesday.

Hope you’re on the mend K

PatHead
17-06-2021, 12:36 PM
Hope you’re on the mend K

Thanks Billy

EI255
20-06-2021, 02:08 PM
For anyone interested, Easyjet fly to Gib from Edinburgh

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EI255
20-06-2021, 03:12 PM
Anyone bought tickets to Gib?

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CapitalGreen
20-06-2021, 04:08 PM
For anyone interested, Easyjet fly to Gib from Edinburgh

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Changed your mind on going?

easty
21-06-2021, 01:20 PM
Changed your mind on going?

Nah, he'll just be looking to have a good moan at folk who do go probably...like on the returning Scotland fans thread.

Hibernian Verse
21-06-2021, 03:11 PM
If anyone is going to Gibraltar watch out for the pesky wee hairy primates stealing your belongings and urinating on you.


How can Jambos travel but we can't?!

SJNB Hibby
21-06-2021, 03:51 PM
For those of you not paying attention, or obsessed with the Euros-how-will-Scotland-suffer-heartbreak-THIS-time, the UCL starts tomorrow with the ¨Preliminary round play-in----surprised Kosovos team is still involved in that, thought theyd have worked their way up the coefficient ladder a bit

DH1875
21-06-2021, 04:42 PM
For anyone interested, Easyjet fly to Gib from Edinburgh

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Easy enough to get to from Malaga.

Billy Whizz
21-06-2021, 04:48 PM
Easy enough to get to from Malaga.

It is, but Spain is still on the amber list

hfcok
22-06-2021, 05:31 AM
It is, but Spain is still on the amber list
It sure is on amber, and If you cross the border from Spain to Gib, they stamp your passport, so they know when you get back home where you’ve been and have to isolate the 10 days as it stands just now.

BonnieFitbaTeam
22-06-2021, 11:08 AM
https://www.headforpoints.com/2021/06/22/covid-tests-to-visit-gibraltar/

Might be useful for those of you planning to book Gib.

HibbyDave
25-06-2021, 08:06 AM
When will we know who we are playing for sure?
Sorry not read whole thread!

Moulin Yarns
25-06-2021, 08:11 AM
When will we know who we are playing for sure?
Sorry not read whole thread!

15th July is the 2nd leg of the 1st qualifying round

Dmas
28-06-2021, 07:26 AM
Brake down of the money on offer if qualified by Swiss ramble on twitter https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/1409401765376712704?s=21


Good money available for a club of our size

danhibees1875
28-06-2021, 08:37 AM
Brake down of the money on offer if qualified by Swiss ramble on twitter https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/1409401765376712704?s=21


Good money available for a club of our size

The Conference prize money isn't too far off the Europa really, that's a huge opportunity for teams like Hibs around Europe who are at that level just shy of getting at the Europa groups. It's a huge opportunity to kick on and make the group's and with wise (re)investment continue to do so.

Was it ever confirmed one way or another which round st Johnstone were going into of the Europa? Did they ultimately fall back a stage and no longer guaranteed some form of group action?

nonshinyfinish
28-06-2021, 08:44 AM
The Conference prize money isn't too far off the Europa really, that's a huge opportunity for teams like Hibs around Europe who are at that level just shy of getting at the Europa groups. It's a huge opportunity to kick on and make the group's and with wise (re)investment continue to do so.

Was it ever confirmed one way or another which round st Johnstone were going into of the Europa? Did they ultimately fall back a stage and no longer guaranteed some form of group action?

Can't find official details on the Uefa site, but Bert Kassies still has them in the 3rd qualifying round (https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedel2021.html). Means they have to win that tie to get back to the 'guaranteed group stage' position of the EL playoff round. If they lose they drop into the Conference League playoff round, so they'd have a second shot at getting into a group stage.

EI255
28-06-2021, 10:06 AM
Changed your mind on going?No.

Just stating a fact (for others benefit)

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davhibby
28-06-2021, 10:19 AM
The Conference prize money isn't too far off the Europa really, that's a huge opportunity for teams like Hibs around Europe who are at that level just shy of getting at the Europa groups. It's a huge opportunity to kick on and make the group's and with wise (re)investment continue to do so.

Was it ever confirmed one way or another which round st Johnstone were going into of the Europa? Did they ultimately fall back a stage and no longer guaranteed some form of group action?

They ended up one back in the 3rd qualifying round in the end. Still in with a chance of the groups though.

This season however the cup winners will 100% be guaranteed group stage football next season as we’re higher up on the rankings list for this season.

Green Man
28-06-2021, 10:44 AM
Can't find official details on the Uefa site, but Bert Kassies still has them in the 3rd qualifying round (https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedel2021.html). Means they have to win that tie to get back to the 'guaranteed group stage' position of the EL playoff round. If they lose they drop into the Conference League playoff round, so they'd have a second shot at getting into a group stage.

It seems a bit crazy that the seeded teams in that round have a much lower coefficient than the unseeded teams. Saints will play either PSV, Galatasaray, Rapid Vienna or Sparta Prague.