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Bobby's Cinema
10-06-2021, 09:47 PM
Anyone have the highlights for this one? Don't think I've seen them since that day :aok:.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/5369306.stm

Bouncing from one Hibs youtube vid to the next and was reminded of this game.

greenginger
11-06-2021, 08:27 AM
Anyone have the highlights for this one? Don't think I've seen them since that day :aok:.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/5369306.stm

Bouncing from one Hibs youtube vid to the next and was reminded of this game.

The Jack Ross mentioned brining down Zemma for the not given penalty ?

I take he’s our manager now ! :grr:

Jones28
11-06-2021, 09:45 AM
I hope I never witness such ineptitude from a match official ever again.

ben johnson
11-06-2021, 09:49 AM
Yogi was the Falkirk manager that day
The Falkirk players were delighted at the sending off and high fives all over the pitch after the sending off
Remember Yogi having verbals with the Hibs fans behind the dugouts
My mate ran a pub up town and Yogi was in after the game
I told my mate he should be barred after his conduct that day not to mention his players conduct
He said I’ve got a better idea you come down and tell him he is barred.

Ryan91
11-06-2021, 09:53 AM
I hope I never witness such ineptitude from a match official ever again.

I'm fairly sure I can recall him booking a Falkirk player twice and not sending him off until a few minutes later when he was told by the 4th official that he'd been booked twice.

Chorley Hibee
11-06-2021, 10:01 AM
The worst refereeing performance I've ever seen, and I've seen some shockers.

The old East stand was as volatile as a Hearts/Rangers game that day due to his actions.

easty
11-06-2021, 10:09 AM
So many Hibs connections in that Falkirk team. Yogi was their manager, and they had Jack Ross, Paddy Cregg, Latapy, Stokes, Gow and Craig playing.

Was in the east that day, I agree with Chorley, people were really angry at that game. It was a shambles.

Argylehibby
11-06-2021, 10:21 AM
I'm fairly sure I can recall him booking a Falkirk player twice and not sending him off until a few minutes later when he was told by the 4th official that he'd been booked twice.

Was it not a fan behind the dugout that alerted Hibs bench to that as well.

nonshinyfinish
11-06-2021, 10:24 AM
Was it not a fan behind the dugout that alerted Hibs bench to that as well.

Yeah, vaguely remember Venus thanking the fan.

BroxburnHibee
11-06-2021, 10:25 AM
Quite simply the worst refereeing performance I've ever witnessed.

bigwheel
11-06-2021, 11:18 AM
Quite simply the worst refereeing performance I've ever witnessed.

100 percent. Not sure anything comes close ….

matty_f
11-06-2021, 11:21 AM
The worst refereeing performance I've ever seen, and I've seen some shockers.

The old East stand was as volatile as a Hearts/Rangers game that day due to his actions.

I was in the East that day with my flatmate at the time (Rangers fan), he said it was the best atmosphere he’d been part of.

Hibs90
11-06-2021, 01:04 PM
It was honestly an utter disgrace. Blatant corruption or downright incompetence either way he should never have refereed another game at that level. I've felt infuriated at plenty Hibs matches over my time but that game in particular is up there or thereabouts.

BroxburnHibee
11-06-2021, 01:08 PM
It was honestly an utter disgrace. Blatant corruption or downright incompetence either way he should never have refereed another game at that level. I've felt infuriated at plenty Hibs matches over my time but that game in particular is up there or thereabouts.

Didn't he referee one more game and make a mess of that too before being downgraded? My memory is fading:greengrin

Smartie
11-06-2021, 01:24 PM
It was one of the strangest games I've ever been to. There have been probably dozens of games over the years that have been feisty and required a solid refereeing performance to keep proceedings under control but this simply wasn't one of them. There was no needle and there were no awful tackles until Freeland totally lost control of it and then all sorts of ill feeling seemed to come to the fore. It's the most I've ever seen a referee influence a game, and not in a good way.

Whilst I have my refereeing pet hates, I actually think that officials largely get a raw deal. Linesmen especially. They do a very difficult job, often in a highly charged atmospheres and I'm amazed how often they actually get tight calls correct. I especially don't fall for the "everybody is out to get us" that football fans tend to like going for.

That day though was just plain weird. Something was up, I don't know what. He might well have been corrupt or had some weird bet on with a mate that he'd cause a riot at Easter Road. It just wasn't a normal refereeing performance. We know what it looks like when a referee has a bad afternoon - this was just on a different level. It says it all that we're talking about what should have been a fairly unremarkable game with not an awful lot at stake all these years later.

Very lively in the old East though and as frustrating as it was, I really miss days like that.

Roxyhibee
11-06-2021, 01:39 PM
Like many, I’ve seen complete corruption with all the Hun loving officials like Davidson in the 60’s and 70’s giving blatant decisions in favour of the team they supported. No cameras replays for their unbelievable officiating in those days either, so all we have is anecdotal horror stories, so if you didn’t witness it, trust me it was nothing short of criminal and could have a significant impact on who won the game.

But yes, Freelands performance at this game was easily the worst I’ve witnessed in more modern times. The fans went from noisy anger, to cries of disbelief, to almost silence as decision after decision seemed to indicate a man having some form of public breakdown.

It was off the scale and should be used as a training aid in ref school, if such a thing exists.

marinello59
11-06-2021, 01:46 PM
I was in the East that day with my flatmate at the time (Rangers fan), he said it was the best atmosphere he’d been part of.

That was my then four year old son’s first visit to Easter Road. He loved it despite the scarey lady sat next to him screaming abuse at Freeland. His Mum had calmed down by the time we got back to the car though. :greengrin

brog
11-06-2021, 03:22 PM
Anyone have the highlights for this one? Don't think I've seen them since that day :aok:.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/5369306.stm

Bouncing from one Hibs youtube vid to the next and was reminded of this game.


Totally incompetent referee Freeland but Alan Muir's performance in play off, also of course against Falkirk, must run him close. His failure to award us a penalty when McCracken (?) almost carried the ball in the box, stopping only to blooter SJM (?) with no ball in sight, on his way out of the box was just unbelievable.

ben johnson
11-06-2021, 05:55 PM
Totally incompetent referee Freeland but Alan Muir's performance in play off, also of course against Falkirk, must run him close. His failure to award us a penalty when McCracken (?) almost carried the ball in the box, stopping only to blooter SJM (?) with no ball in sight, on his way out of the box was just unbelievable.

Stephen Craigan put that to bed I’m afraid
“ He had to put his hand somewhere as he fell” was the experts take on it

SCHAEDYSHORTS
11-06-2021, 07:16 PM
Totally incompetent referee Freeland but Alan Muir's performance in play off, also of course against Falkirk, must run him close. His failure to award us a penalty when McCracken (?) almost carried the ball in the box, stopping only to blooter SJM (?) with no ball in sight, on his way out of the box was just unbelievable.

Seem to remember it was Hendo who got booted in the box as play broke away? But I’ve tried to forget that game, absolute disgrace of a referee 😡

Eyrie
11-06-2021, 07:23 PM
Seem to remember it was Hendo who got booted in the box as play broke away? But I’ve tried to forget that game, absolute disgrace of a referee 😡

It was Henderson.

Two stonewall penalties were "ignored" by Muir in the space of a few seconds.

Jones28
11-06-2021, 07:53 PM
Totally incompetent referee Freeland but Alan Muir's performance in play off, also of course against Falkirk, must run him close. His failure to award us a penalty when McCracken (?) almost carried the ball in the box, stopping only to blooter SJM (?) with no ball in sight, on his way out of the box was just unbelievable.

Yepp. Muir’s performance made me think he had genuinely taken a wedge to throw that game. Freeland was just crap.

hibbysam
11-06-2021, 09:27 PM
Totally incompetent referee Freeland but Alan Muir's performance in play off, also of course against Falkirk, must run him close. His failure to award us a penalty when McCracken (?) almost carried the ball in the box, stopping only to blooter SJM (?) with no ball in sight, on his way out of the box was just unbelievable.

Then in the replay Thomson failing to send their boy off for a clear goalscoring opportunity when we got our penalty was just as strange.

northstandhibby
11-06-2021, 09:49 PM
Not winning the Cup for well over a century wasn't purely down to our team never being able to. Despicable refereeing was a huge part of it plus the hot and cold balls in the draw jar. Steven McLean was a revelation. Before then Anthony Stokes early goal would have been ruled out for an imaginary something or other. Petrie was a miracle worker among others of the against anti Hibernians. Things have gotten a lot better in recent years and rightly so.

brog
11-06-2021, 10:02 PM
Seem to remember it was Hendo who got booted in the box as play broke away? But I’ve tried to forget that game, absolute disgrace of a referee 😡

I'm sure you're right. I watched that unfolding with a surreal sense of disbelief. Felt like I'd entered a parallel footballing universe! Just unbelievable!

Craigmount Hibs
12-06-2021, 12:50 AM
Yeah, vaguely remember Venus thanking the fan.

That fan was me. A policeman beside the dugout made moves to throw me out, because I was screaming at David Murphy not to take the throw in. I thought if play was restarted the muppet of a referee couldn't correct his error.

Apart from thanks from the dugout, Zibi gave me his jersey after the game, as the players walked off the pitch.

The worst refereeing performance of all time.

Jones28
12-06-2021, 07:03 AM
That fan was me. A policeman beside the dugout made moves to throw me out, because I was screaming at David Murphy not to take the throw in. I thought if play was restarted the muppet of a referee couldn't correct his error.

Apart from thanks from the dugout, Zibi gave me his jersey after the game, as the players walked off the pitch.

The worst refereeing performance of all time.

Have you still got the jersey?

Craigmount Hibs
12-06-2021, 07:41 AM
Have you still got the jersey?

No. I gave it to Tom Wright - for a time it was one of the strips on display as part of the stadium tour he did.

Bobby's Cinema
12-06-2021, 09:48 AM
No highlights out there then?:greengrin

Willis1875
12-06-2021, 10:29 AM
There was a game under Mowbray I think,we played at home against Motherwell and Charlie Richmond was the ref that day.I’ve never been so incensed at a game of football.He was absolutely horrendous in every aspect and I’m sure he was escorted off the pitch by police at FT

I’m sure we won the game though

Peevemor
12-06-2021, 10:36 AM
There was a match against Aberdeen at ER in the 80s, I think Hugh Ferguson might have been the ref and the final score was 0-4 (IIRC).

Even though the sheep were miles better than us at the time, I can't remember a crowd being so angry with the referee. Absolutely everything went Aberdeen's way.

Smartie
12-06-2021, 07:54 PM
There was a game under Mowbray I think,we played at home against Motherwell and Charlie Richmond was the ref that day.I’ve never been so incensed at a game of football.He was absolutely horrendous in every aspect and I’m sure he was escorted off the pitch by police at FT

I’m sure we won the game though

We had a spell where we had a few tetchy games with Motherwell. I think Butcher was their manager at the time and they were often unhappy with the ref after the game.

In defence of the referees in those instances - they were proper, blood and thunder games that took a bit of sorting out by a referee and when you had a poor one (like Richmond) it was a recipe for disaster.

tamig
12-06-2021, 08:05 PM
There was a match against Aberdeen at ER in the 80s, I think Hugh Ferguson might have been the ref and the final score was 0-4 (IIRC).

Even though the sheep were miles better than us at the time, I can't remember a crowd being so angry with the referee. Absolutely everything went Aberdeen's way.
Alan Ferguson. Worst performance I’ve ever seen from a ref involved in any Hibs game. Absolute shocker. Freeland, Muir, Richmond - all shockers, but none of them come close to that howler from Ferguson against Aberdeen.

Peevemor
12-06-2021, 08:10 PM
Alan Ferguson. Worst performance I’ve ever seen from a ref involved in any Hibs game. Absolute shocker. Freeland, Muir, Richmond - all shockers, but none of them come close to that howler from Ferguson against Aberdeen.Cheers, that's the one. From Giffnock IIRC.

mal
12-06-2021, 08:32 PM
It was Henderson.

Two stonewall penalties were "ignored" by Muir in the space of a few seconds.

Was it not technically three given that the Falkirk player handled the ball twice before booting Henderson?

Highlights here: Goals! Hibs and Falkirk draw play-off first leg - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzGCyKKyb6A)

Jones28
13-06-2021, 08:10 AM
No. I gave it to Tom Wright - for a time it was one of the strips on display as part of the stadium tour he did.

I can’t understand why you’d want to give that away..😜

Well done for doing your bit for the cause.

Jones28
13-06-2021, 08:20 AM
Was it not technically three given that the Falkirk player handled the ball twice before booting Henderson?

Highlights here: Goals! Hibs and Falkirk draw play-off first leg - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzGCyKKyb6A)


Watching that and second leg you realise just how fortunate they were to win over 2 legs. 2 wonder goals at home, with Cummings hitting the bar, the 2 penalties we should have had at Easter road, the flukey goal at Easter road when it squeezed through Logan.

It was a great team they had, remind me a bit of St Johnston, not brilliant individuals but they worked like hell and were a solid unit.

Then they scrap their academy programme? Bizarre decision.

One Day
13-06-2021, 08:27 AM
There was a match against Aberdeen at ER in the 80s, I think Hugh Ferguson might have been the ref and the final score was 0-4 (IIRC).

Even though the sheep were miles better than us at the time, I can't remember a crowd being so angry with the referee. Absolutely everything went Aberdeen's way.

Think that might have been Scottish cup 3rd round 1983 when we got beat 4-1. 2-0 down at half time and wondering if I could get time off for a replay. :hyper

21.05.2016
13-06-2021, 09:20 AM
One of the worst refereeing performances i've ever witnessed (and thats saying something as I've seen countless absolute shockers over the years!).

So bad it actually became comical.

Hibernianinc
13-06-2021, 11:07 PM
That was my then four year old son’s first visit to Easter Road. He loved it despite the scarey lady sat next to him screaming abuse at Freeland. His Mum had calmed down by the time we got back to the car though. :greengrin

My boy’s first game too. Was the first HibsKids match of the season.

Worst. Referring. Performance. Ever.

weecounty hibby
14-06-2021, 04:30 PM
Alan Ferguson. Worst performance I’ve ever seen from a ref involved in any Hibs game. Absolute shocker. Freeland, Muir, Richmond - all shockers, but none of them come close to that howler from Ferguson against Aberdeen.

Yip, I remember being in the old North enclosure for that game. It was a shocking performance from the ref. Aberdeen were a great side at that time but they also clearly intimidated refs. The two Falkirk games were bad but that Aberdeen game had to be seen to be believed. The crowd were going absolutely mental. Some of the Hibs players were too