New captain

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Who do you think realistically we could bring in this summer as a new captain :flag:

[MWHIBBIES]

Paul hanlon

We're not signing someone who will immediately become captain in a dressing room with gray, mcgregor and hanlon

[HoboHarry]

Is this part of a competition for who can create the daftest thread?

[Brightside]

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[B.H.F.C]

It’s not happening but it’s a valid question IMO.

[sleeping giant]

It’s not happening but it’s a valid question IMO.

It is indeed.
I dont have an answer BTW :-)

[easty]

Gogic captained St Mirren.

Irvine captained Hull.

We’ve got multiple “captains” in the squad. Who actually wears the armband doesn’t stop the others from doing what they always do.

It’s just something that some people like to try and blame for results that don’t go our way, when in reality a new “captain” wouldn’t actually really change anything. Unless it’s a better footballer whose ability makes us better, not the fact he’s a “captain”.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Its staring us in the face. Matt Macey!

[Unseen work]

Captains are overrated.

Signing the right player is needed with the right mentality etc, but who is actual captain doesn’t make a huge difference Imo.

[B.H.F.C]

Captains are overrated.

Signing the right player is needed with the right mentality etc, but who is actual captain doesn’t make a huge difference Imo.

You could maybe rephrase the question a bit. We need a player/players who are going to drag the rest of them along.

We had loads of them on the pitch when we won the cup. On Saturday, everyone was waiting for someone else to do it.

[Hibee Mac]

I understand why people would jump at this and say it's a daft thread but the OP is onto something. Hanlon is not captain material and as much as he's a cup winning legend and he's not the sole reason for us losing certain games etc I don't think anyone can justifiably argue that Hanlon is a great captain.

Having a younger Gray/McGregor as captain would improve the team if you ask me, trouble is you don't just go out and but a captain and drop him into the side, just doesn't work.

[Hibbyradge]

trouble is you don't just go out and but a captain and drop him into the side, just doesn't work.

Which is why it's a daft thread.

[easty]

I understand why people would jump at this and say it's a daft thread but the OP is onto something. Hanlon is not captain material and as much as he's a cup winning legend and he's not the sole reason for us losing certain games etc I don't think anyone can justifiably argue that Hanlon is a great captain.

Having a younger Gray/McGregor as captain would improve the team if you ask me, trouble is you don't just go out and but a captain and drop him into the side, just doesn't work.

I feel like a broken record, cos I’ve said this a million times on here -

We’ve lost loads of games when both Gray and McGregor were playing. Loads. We lost “big games”, we lost derbys, we lost games at home to ***** teams that we should never have lost.

Gray and McGregor shout more than Paul Hanlon though, so for some reason, to some people, they’re more “captain material”.

[Smartie]

Hanlon has been superb this season and has led by example.

We could have done with McGregor next to him on Saturday doing likewise, albeit without a wee armband.

A new captain would be a lovely silver bullet solution but it doesn't work that way. Unfortunately our solution will involve several people having a word with themselves and not allowing their personal standards to drop so low on the biggest stage ever again.

[Scouse Hibee]

Who do you think realistically we could bring in this summer as a new captain :flag:

No one

[Brightside]

I feel like a broken record, cos I’ve said this a million times on here -

We’ve lost loads of games when both Gray and McGregor were playing. Loads. We lost “big games”, we lost derbys, we lost games at home to ***** teams that we should never have lost.

Gray and McGregor shout more than Paul Hanlon though, so for some reason, to some people, they’re more “captain material”.

Correct. It’s like I’m watching World of Sport.

[ddoc]

Who do you think realistically we could bring in this summer as a new captain :flag:

What criteria / skillset must our potential new captain meet?

The team is on the field for 90 minutes. What does a captain do to pull things around when it is a going down the drain, like it did on Saturday.
I have never played football, beyond kick abouts at school, so I confess that I do get a bit confused when it comes to what we supporters expect from our captain.
Lead by example, obviousily. Berate someone for a stupid mistake, seen that happen, cajole them to put in more effort. But what does he do when the majority of the team just seem to downs tools.
I think the expectation of how much influence the captain has once the team is out on the pitch is way over stated. There is a general expectation that each player is going to give their best, knowing full well that every one has the occassional 'bad day at the office'. But not all on the same day.
So I have no idea who should be our captain, or who we should target to bring in for the role. I just hope they are the best we can afford for the position they are filling on the pitch.

[Davy Mac]

I said it on Saturday, i was disappointed the sent out Macey to face the music.

A good Captain would have taken this on the chin and faced the cameras and ****** apologised, did he xxxx

[Centre Hawf]

I've seen players go flying into tackles and hurting opposition players when the games getting away from their side and they get sent off and cost any chance of a comeback, I've seen players go shouting at their teammates for mistakes and the team falling out and playing within themselves due to lost confidence. Doing either of these things doesn't make you a good captain.

The few things fans can judge a captain on with credibility is their commitment to the football club and their affinity with the fans themselves. Things that Paul Hanlon passes with flying colours.

Beyond that only Hanlon's teammates and the coaching staff can judge his abilities as a captain on the field in a professional manner. A captain is the least of our worries.

[Hibbyradge]

Which player gets appoints as Captain has absolutely no effect on how the team performs. None.

Who's the Man City Captain? Or Liverpool's? Even Barcelona have Messi.

You could make Martin Boyle, Josh Doig or Darren McGregor Captain instead of Paul Hanlon and the performances would be exactly the same.

If you needed someone to shout and scream at you for motivation, you wouldn't be a professional footballer.

You'd either be a conscript in the army or in jail.

[Dr_Regal]

Charlie Mulgrew

[AZhibee]

Its staring us in the face. Matt Macey!

Not many can stare Macey straight in the face…chin perhaps. :agree:

[JimBHibees]

Which player gets appoints as Captain has absolutely no effect on how the team performs. None.

Who's the Man City Captain? Or Liverpool's? Even Barcelona have Messi.

You could make Martin Boyle, Josh Doig or Darren McGregor Captain instead of Paul Hanlon and the performances would be exactly the same.

If you needed someone to shout and scream at you for motivation, you wouldn't be a professional footballer.

You'd either be a conscript in the army or in jail.

Not so sure I agree I think many players do have clear leadership qualities be that verbally or leading by example which can influence other team members to raise their level. Think Liverpool with or without Henderson are different teams as are City without Fernandinho. Roy Keane and Scott Brown were also imo hugely influential characters. Contrast to that is no such player in a green jersey showing the drive and leadership to raise our teams level on Saturday, I think it can be overstated however do think it does make a difference if you are lucky enough to have such a character.

[Brightside]

I said it on Saturday, i was disappointed the sent out Macey to face the music.

A good Captain would have taken this on the chin and faced the cameras and ****** apologised, did he xxxx

The broadcasters ask who they want to interview.

[Sioux]

Not so sure I agree I think many players do have clear leadership qualities be that verbally or leading by example which can influence other team members to raise their level. Think Liverpool with or without Henderson are different teams as are City without Fernandinho. Roy Keane and Scott Brown were also imo hugely influential characters. Contrast to that is no such player in a green jersey showing the drive and leadership to raise our teams level on Saturday, I think it can be overstated however do think it does make a difference if you are lucky enough to have such a character.

Those players would be exactly the same with or without an armband.

Another Hibs.net myth that a good captain makes a good team, whatever a good captain means.

[Not In The Know]

Paul hanlon

We're not signing someone who will immediately become captain in a dressing room with gray, mcgregor and hanlon

He's not a leader im afraid.

Nice guy, honest kind, etc but not what we need.

[MWHIBBIES]

He's not a leader im afraid.

Nice guy, honest kind, etc but not what we need.

How do you know?

[SaulGoodman]

How do you know?

Because he doesn’t shout a lot, duh.

[dp00]

He's not a leader im afraid.

Nice guy, honest kind, etc but not what we need.

Do you know him ? Can’t really say someone ain’t a leader of you don’t know them


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[Smartie]

Was Hanlon not the Scotland captain at lower age levels? He had loads of U21 caps iirc and regularly captained the side, although I could be wrong.

If so, having done that at an early age, played for Hibs through thick and thin under various managers and captains and now been chosen to be captain, what exactly is it about him that suggests he's not up to captaining Hibs?

Apart from anything else he has been superb this season and at times when we've been flagging a bit further forward, he's driven us on.

We were poor as a team on Saturday but I honestly don't think either Hanlon individually or as a captain was the problem.

Our best sides have had captains throughout the team who would spur each other on. Too many players just disappeared into themselves on Saturday, which imo is a different problem requiring a different solution.

[Brightside]

Was Hanlon not the Scotland captain at lower age levels? He had loads of U21 caps iirc and regularly captained the side, although I could be wrong.

If so, having done that at an early age, played for Hibs through thick and thin under various managers and captains and now been chosen to be captain, what exactly is it about him that suggests he's not up to captaining Hibs?

Apart from anything else he has been superb this season and at times when we've been flagging a bit further forward, he's driven us on.

We were poor as a team on Saturday but I honestly don't think either Hanlon individually or as a captain was the problem.

Our best sides have had captains throughout the team who would spur each other on. Too many players just disappeared into themselves on Saturday.

You have to have a beard.

The idea that this guy isnt captain material is nuts. We would never even been in the Scottish Cup Final of 2016 without his will to win. The guy bleeds green.
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[Zambernardi1875]

You have to have a beard.

The idea that this guy isnt captain material is nuts. We would never even been in the Scottish Cup Final of 2016 without his will to win. The guy bleeds green.
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Do you also remember the semi final when billy mckay got behind him twice in the first half only for Logan to save him? What about Glenn Middleton on Saturday but him on his arse only got Gogic to save him?

[MWHIBBIES]

Do you also remember the semi final when billy mckay got behind him twice in the first half only for Logan to save him? What about Glenn Middleton on Saturday but him on his arse only got Gogic to save him?

Goalie makes saves? Shocker.

Do you expect the opposition never to get a chance?

[Zambernardi1875]

Goalie makes saves? Shocker.

Do you expect the opposition never to get a chance?

Goalie should make the saves but defenders shouldn’t defend? What you on about now.

[Smartie]

Goalie should make the saves but defenders shouldn’t defend? What you on about now.

You could argue that it's to Hanlon's credit that after those incidents he dusted himself down, put them out his mind and got on with winning the game.

Team lose goals, keepers make howlers, defenders cost goals, all of them do.

The best don't do it often, and when they do they bounce back.

It can also help defenders be proactive, bold and aggressive when they know they have a keeper who will bail them out if they get it wrong.


Macey bailed out Porto on Saturday, shame we didn't have anyone to capitalise on the fact.

FWIW I think Hanlon and Macey are absolutely the last places we should be looking to criticise from Saturday, both as players and in Hanlon's role as captain.

[Bangkok Hibby]

You could argue that it's to Hanlon's credit that after those incidents he dusted himself down, put them out his mind and got on with winning the game.

Team lose goals, keepers make howlers, defenders cost goals, all of them do.

The best don't do it often, and when they do they bounce back.

It can also help defenders be proactive, bold and aggressive when they know they have a keeper who will bail them out if they get it wrong.


Macey bailed out Porto on Saturday, shame we didn't have anyone to capitalise on the fact.

FWIW I think Hanlon and Macey are absolutely the last places we should be looking to criticise from Saturday, both as players and in Hanlon's role as captain.

I've just voted for Macey as player of the season. 🙂

[Centre Hawf]

Do you also remember the semi final when billy mckay got behind him twice in the first half only for Logan to save him? What about Glenn Middleton on Saturday but him on his arse only got Gogic to save him?

You're right. Any defender that ever makes a mistake should never captain their side again. In fact they should be forced to retire instantly.

[wallpaperman]

If we were to appoint a new captain from the players already there, Gogic, without doubt.

[Hibernian Verse]

You're right. Any defender that ever makes a mistake should never captain their side again. In fact they should be forced to retire instantly.

Tavernier is ****ed :greengrin

[Zambernardi1875]

You're right. Any defender that ever makes a mistake should never captain their side again. In fact they should be forced to retire instantly.

Haha are you ok? That’ clearly wasn’t the point I was making. Always good to take the blinkers off and have a bit of balance.

[MWHIBBIES]

Goalie should make the saves but defenders shouldn’t defend? What you on about now.

Of course defenders should defend. Can you name one that never made an error?