Mallan and Allan

[Key West]

2 creative players who perhaps may have given Hibs a different dimension on Saturday given their playing styles and experiences of playing for Hibs. The present midfield to be honest couldn't create an opportunity or score a goal between them.

[MWHIBBIES]

Mallan gets better every week on here. He has been utter pish for a long time.

Allan yes, but his health conditions couldn't really be forseen.

I wonder if we missed a trick with Ryan Gauld. Big move coming for him this summer after a wonderful season.

[KingPat4]

Mallan was gash and we could not afford Gauld.

As for Scottie, I can only hope he can get back to his best, but I think it's a big ask.

[BoomtownHibees]

Mallan gets better every week on here. He has been utter pish for a long time.

Allan yes, but his health conditions couldn't really be forseen.

I wonder if we missed a trick with Ryan Gauld. Big move coming for him this summer after a wonderful season.

I’m not convinced Mallan would be the right man for the job however we definitely needed something different on Saturday. Going in to the last 20-25 mins on Saturday, 1 nil down, Mallan coming off the bench would have given me a lot more hope than the ones that did (Murphy apart)

[Key West]

Mallan gets better every week on here. He has been utter pish for a long time.

Allan yes, but his health conditions couldn't really be forseen.

I wonder if we missed a trick with Ryan Gauld. Big move coming for him this summer after a wonderful season.

Mallan is not a world beater but he is capable of taking set pieces and on occasion capable of creating chances and scoring goals, different from the currently favoured midfielders.

[Since452]

Allan has a long way to go yet before he's ready for a game like that. He had only just started getting full games for ICT against plumbers and sparkys.

I don't think that game would have suited Mallan but at least he'd have been a different option from the bench instead of Hallberg who was just a like for like replacement.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Mallan wouldn’t have made a difference on Saturday unless he was just going to shoot every time he got on the ball from where ever he was, we might have got lucky that way but highly doubt it.

We just don’t know how Allan would have been if he was able to actually take the field but I’m not sure a less than 100% Allan would have got us back in the game either.

Good point about Gauld however I think he’s been in Portugal that long that his game is far more suited over there than it is here which is why he didn’t stand out for us.

[BoomtownHibees]

Mallan wouldn’t have made a difference on Saturday unless he was just going to shoot every time he got on the ball from where ever he was, we might have got lucky that way but highly doubt it.

Anybody shooting would have been better than the reality.

[Key West]

Gash,pish, wouldn't have made a difference, Newell and Irvine never look like having a decent shot at goal never mind scoring.

[Sir David Gray]

Unless we were looking for a free kick taker then Mallan wouldn't have made much of a difference at all.

Allan was a great player for us and I really hope he can get back to his best. It will take a huge amount of work for him to do that though and in reality Scott Allan wouldn't have changed the game for us on Saturday.

[Since452]

Anybody shooting would have been better than the reality.

Good point

[Northernhibee]

Mallan wouldn’t have been effective. St Johnstone’s strength is their pressing and stifling the midfield and Mallan needs space to work in, Allan too.

[B.H.F.C]

Mallan wouldn’t have been effective. St Johnstone’s strength is their pressing and stifling the midfield and Mallan needs space to work in, Allan too.

Good players make space for themselves and beat that press though.

We seriously lacked anyone to even attempt something a bit different.

[badabing67]

Mallan gets better every week on here. He has been utter pish for a long time.

Allan yes, but his health conditions couldn't really be forseen.

I wonder if we missed a trick with Ryan Gauld. Big move coming for him this summer after a wonderful season.

I don't think we missed a trick. Was it not widely reported in the media at the time he was with us there was a completely unrealistic release clause tied into his contract

[LaMotta]

2 creative players who perhaps may have given Hibs a different dimension on Saturday given their playing styles and experiences of playing for Hibs. The present midfield to be honest couldn't create an opportunity or score a goal between them.

Irvine, Newell, Magennis, Hallberg - 119 collective appearances this season. Total goals - 4.

Mallan - 20 appearances this season.. Total goals - 4.

:cb

[Key West]

No disrespect to the likes of Gogic, Newell, Hallberg, Doig,Irvine or Magennis but they won't produce goals from midfield.

[LaMotta]

Mallan gets better every week on here. He has been utter pish for a long time.

Allan yes, but his health conditions couldn't really be forseen.

I wonder if we missed a trick with Ryan Gauld. Big move coming for him this summer after a wonderful season.

The way you speak about Hibs players you dislike is disgraceful. You are incapable of having a balanced and reasonable view on anything once you've made your mind up on something.

[Bishop Hibee]

Mallan wouldn’t have been effective. St Johnstone’s strength is their pressing and stifling the midfield and Mallan needs space to work in, Allan too.

A fit Allan creates space for himself. Mallan off the bench would have been a better option than those on it bar Murphy (who did nothing) when we needed to chase the game.

[gbhibby]

If Mallan works hard on improving his workrate there is a player there. A midfielder who gives you goals what is there not to like.

[LaMotta]

A fit Allan creates space for himself. Mallan off the bench would have been a better option than those on it bar Murphy (who did nothing) when we needed to chase the game.

:agree: Having only one attacking option off the bench with the ability to change a game highlights the imbalance in the squad.

[Key West]

Unfortunately I can see Mallan moving on and becoming a decent player which I believe for another club

[loanheadhibby]

Anybody shooting would have been better than the reality.

I’m still astounded at how easy a game their keeper had. No 1 free kick around their box and barely a shot at goal. In a Scottish Cup Final ffs!

I agree Mallan not the answer but the goals return from Gogic, Newell, Irvine etc lamentable.

[MWHIBBIES]

The way you speak about Hibs players you dislike is disgraceful. You are incapable of having a balanced and reasonable view on anything once you've made your mind up on something.No, it isn't. He has been rubbish for a while. I'm always there to give him credit for a good performance. I do have balanced and reasonable opinions based on facts and watching the player. Think whatever you like though.


I don't think we missed a trick. Was it not widely reported in the media at the time he was with us there was a completely unrealistic release clause tied into his contract

How did he end up where he is now then? Genuinely asking. Wasn't he freed after leaving us?

[LaMotta]

Unfortunately I can see Mallan moving on and becoming a decent player which I believe for another club

I could see that too. I also understand the criticisms around some of his play and why he may not be seen as a long term answer.

But someone describing him as utter pish is just embarrasing analysis.

He has more goal threat in his left pinkie than the rest of the Hibs midfield combined. For that reason alone its impossible to say that he woudn't have made a difference, because he might have. What's sure is I think every Hibs fan watching on Saturday knew as the second half unfolded we weren't scoring with the players available.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Unfortunately I can see Mallan moving on and becoming a decent player which I believe for another club

Wouldn't surprise me if he ended up at St Johnstone beside the others who weren't good enough for where we want to be.

[gbhibby]

Mallan takes a better corner kick than anyone at the club.

[JohnM1875]

Mallan takes a better corner kick than anyone at the club.

So do I probably, not hard right now.

Newell had about five assists in a row from corners last year. No idea what's happened to them since.

[Magpie]

Mallan a good option to have in my book.

[badabing67]

No, it isn't. He has been rubbish for a while. I'm always there to give him credit for a good performance. I do have balanced and reasonable opinions based on facts and watching the player. Think whatever you like though.



How did he end up where he is now then? Genuinely asking. Wasn't he freed after leaving us?

According to his wiki page

Ryan Gauld left Sporting to rejoin Farense on a permanent basis in July 2019, signing a two-year contract with an option for a third year and a €4 million release clause. On 29 February 2020.

It doesn't mention a fee to rejoin Farense. But apparently Southampton are interested in him now.

[Key West]

I could see that too. I also understand the criticisms around some of his play and why he may not be seen as a long term answer.

But someone describing him as utter pish is just embarrasing analysis.

He has more goal threat in his left pinkie than the rest of the Hibs midfield combined. For that reason alone its impossible to say that he woudn't have made a difference, because he might have. What's sure is I think every Hibs fan watching on Saturday knew as the second half unfolded we weren't scoring with the players available.

Likewise I understand the criticisms, he is not a complete player ( who is at Hibs? ) but when you are watching a midfield that didn't create, were pedestrian and offered little in terms of affecting the game, it was beyond being frustrating, as is the utilisation of right footed midfielders being asked to play wide on the left for the majority of the season, having to rely on a young laddie to come up with the goods with little experience ( Doig ).

[Jones28]

No disrespect to the likes of Gogic, Newell, Hallberg, Doig,Irvine or Magennis but they won't produce goals from midfield.

Magennis hasn't had the chance tbf, the others I agree with - though Gogic scored one of our goals of the season.

[Potty78]

We had no players on the bench who could have changed the game, not getting another striker in Jan was criminal. We really should have went 352 and matched saints. Players need to have a good look at themselves, they missed a massive opportunity

[JohnM1875]

To be fair, at least Mallan would have had a shot or two.

Thing that pissed me off about Saturday was we were one nil down and absolutely no one was willing to have a dig and see what happened.

Murphy, who I've already said thought played well enough when he came on, was guilty of this a few times. Cut in and ran across the box but didn't have the faith in his ability to have a shot. If it was Mallan he's smashing it. Usually on target as well.

[Coco Bryce]

To be fair, the lads I watched the game with would have put up a better fight than that disgraceful spectacle we were dished up.

[Onion]

Only Allan at his best would have made a difference. But no point dreaming about what ifs. We had more than enough on that pitch to win the Cup and Ross had enough options to affect the game. Sadly, we had no one close to the calibre of Stokes or Henderson or McGinn to drag the others along.

[Highwayman]

Hope I’m wrong,because I’ve rated both Mallan and Allan,highly in the past,but I have the feeling that their time has come and gone at ER.

Who are we going to replace them with ? Haven’t got a clue,as I can’t see any other players in the current squad similar to them.

Looks like we need to look elsewhere and the question is where?

[Jim44]

Unfortunately I can see Mallan moving on and becoming a decent player which I believe for another club

I don’t know if I’ve invented this, but I think I remember hearing that Mallan went on a one year loan to the Turkish team with an option to buy, but either way, he would not be returning to Hibs.

[Steve88]

Forget these two.

Who else in Scotland - outside the old firm - has the creativity/passing and some robustness around them that we could pick up this summer, lets hear some names:agree:..

[Unseen work]

Allan has obvious quality and should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

Mallan seems to get a lot more criticism but for me there’s very few in Scottish football that have his technique and ability on the ball, in terms of passing, shooting etc.

If he was to sign for another team like Aberdeen, Hearts, St Johnstone etc I think he’d used properly and have runners and tacklers behind him. He would score double figures if played in an advanced position Imo

[Brightside]

I dont think either player will have much input at Hibs next season. Mallan wants to play every week - he wont get that at Hibs. Not at the level we want to be at. Allan i just dont think will get back to the levels he once had for us.

[LaMotta]

Allan has obvious quality and should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

Mallan seems to get a lot more criticism but for me there’s very few in Scottish football that have his technique and ability on the ball, in terms of passing, shooting etc.

If he was to sign for another team like Aberdeen, Hearts, St Johnstone etc I think he’d used properly and have runners and tacklers behind him. He would score double figures if played in an advanced position Imo

:agree:

[MWHIBBIES]

Allan has obvious quality and should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

Mallan seems to get a lot more criticism but for me there’s very few in Scottish football that have his technique and ability on the ball, in terms of passing, shooting etc.

If he was to sign for another team like Aberdeen, Hearts, St Johnstone etc I think he’d used properly and have runners and tacklers behind him. He would score double figures if played in an advanced position Imo

Why has he never done well for Hibs in an advanced position, though?

I keeper hearing this, but its just a theory. Hes never performed consistently in reality. His passing is also very poor at times.

[LaMotta]

Why has he never done well for Hibs in an advanced position, though?

I keeper hearing this, but its just a theory. Hes never performed consistently in reality. His passing is also very poor at times.

You should watch this video and then reavalute your statement that he has "never done well for Hibs in an advanced position":

https://twitter.com/Barlosthecat/status/1355986587314745347?s=19

His passing is very poor at times - so what? Like Jackson Irvine, and Scott Allan and frankly most footballers. All three's passing is also very good at times.

Joe Newell is someone who rarely gives the ball away, but actually he also rarely plays a telling pass when you need some magic. That's fine when you are in the lead but no good when your chasing a game.

If its consistency you are looking for then the current central midfielders are very consistent in being unable to contribute to our goals tally.

[MWHIBBIES]

You should watch this video and then reavalute your statement that he has "never done well for Hibs in an advanced position":

https://twitter.com/Barlosthecat/status/1355986587314745347?s=19

His passing is very poor at times - so what? Like Jackson Irvine, and Scott Allan and frankly most footballers. All three's passing is also very good at times.

Joe Newell is someone who rarely gives the ball away, but actually he also rarely plays a telling pass when you need some magic. That's fine when you are in in the lead but no good when your chasing a game.

If its consistency you are looking for then the current central midfielders are very consistent in being unable to contribute to our goals tally.

He looks great in a video, he always will.

[jeffers]

I dont think either player will have much input at Hibs next season. Mallan wants to play every week - he wont get that at Hibs. Not at the level we want to be at. Allan i just dont think will get back to the levels he once had for us.

If his interview is to be believed Scott Allan should be the fittest/healthiest he’s ever been, so there’s no reason why he can’t get back to his previous levels. It would be different IMO if he’d had a serious injury. I just don’t see JR finding a role for him moving forward.

[Unseen work]

Why has he never done well for Hibs in an advanced position, though?

I keeper hearing this, but its just a theory. Hes never performed consistently in reality. His passing is also very poor at times.

I’d argue he has.

He’s also rarely played in an advanced midfield role with 2 behind him.

His passing ratio might not be the best as he tries harder passes, but I’d bet he’d be one of the best passers at the club.

[LaMotta]

He looks great in a video, he always will.

That's because the video shows actual footage of very positive events that took place on a football pitch, rather than an invented narrative in your head of him never performing well or being pish and rubbish all the time.

[MWHIBBIES]

That's because the video shows actual footage of very positive events that took place on a football pitch, rather than an invented narrative in your head of him never performing well or being pish and rubbish all the time.

Aye, scored some crackers over an 8 week period, no one denied that. That free kick against Kilmarnock is still the last one he scored

[Coach Jon]

Allan has obvious quality and should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

Mallan seems to get a lot more criticism but for me there’s very few in Scottish football that have his technique and ability on the ball, in terms of passing, shooting etc.

If he was to sign for another team like Aberdeen, Hearts, St Johnstone etc I think he’d used properly and have runners and tacklers behind him. He would score double figures if played in an advanced position Imo

Agree with this, Mallan is the best football player at the club, the likes of Newell,Irvine, Magennis etc dont possess the quality he can produce with the ball. The argument was that we couldnt play Mallan and Allan in the same team, now we lack quality because both are out the picture. We desperately need somebody with his ability on set-pieces, if the game had been played till midnight on Saturday we would not have scored because we were devoid of ideas how to unlock a solid defence.

[LaMotta]

Aye, scored some crackers over an 8 week period, no one denied that. That free kick against Kilmarnock is still the last one he scored

Using that as a stick to beat him with doesn't work given that he was in fact the last midfielder to score a freekick for us.:cb

[churchie16]

Allan has obvious quality and should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

Mallan seems to get a lot more criticism but for me there’s very few in Scottish football that have his technique and ability on the ball, in terms of passing, shooting etc.

If he was to sign for another team like Aberdeen, Hearts, St Johnstone etc I think he’d used properly and have runners and tacklers behind him. He would score double figures if played in an advanced position Imo

Well done clearly someone watches the game when they are there, just read mallans passing is poor haha honestly beggars believe probably one of the best at switching play and his range of passing is different class along with Allan some people just want not to like players and mallan is certainly one give me 3-4 of them over Irvine and gogic who contribute absolutely nothing and run about more more than mallan and people think there better football players

[MWHIBBIES]

Using that as a stick to beat him with doesn't work given that he was in fact the last midfielder to score a freekick for us.:cb

Nisbet has more goals from free kicks this season than Mallan in the last 2.

[Key West]

Nisbet has more goals from free kicks this season than Mallan in the last 2. Nisbet is a striker who unfortunately missed a crucial penalty against Hearts, Mallan converted a last minute penalty against St Johnstone away. There have been players taking up places on the bench who never look like making it on to the pitch for various reasons never mind changing the game. The whole point of opening this thread was to make the point that there are very few goals in the current midfield regardless of your views on Mallan, he has played more games for Hibs than them all, does have the ability to create chances, takes set pieces and occasionally come up with goals, at the very least he should have been given the opportunity to make a difference even if he wasn’t starting the game, there’s been many better players but there’s been a whole lot worse, yes he has weaknesses that’s why he is at Hibs. Anyhow I respect the fact the you and others have given your views but like those who rate him I can’t help think that he will be a good signing for one of our competitors, time will tell.

[LaMotta]

Nisbet has more goals from free kicks this season than Mallan in the last 2.

Mallan has scored more free kicks for Hibs in a fortnight than Nisbet did in an entire season. Mallan also scored our most impressive individual goal last season.

Your arguments are failing to hit the target more than our current central midfielders.

[Iain G]

Agree with this, Mallan is the best football player at the club, the likes of Newell,Irvine, Magennis etc dont possess the quality he can produce with the ball. The argument was that we couldnt play Mallan and Allan in the same team, now we lack quality because both are out the picture. We desperately need somebody with his ability on set-pieces, if the game had been played till midnight on Saturday we would not have scored because we were devoid of ideas how to unlock a solid defence.

It is amazing how absence enhances his reputation, next we will be calling for him to be in the Scotland squad this summer. He got punted off to the Turkish leagues for a reason.

Decent player, good dead balls and can hit a long shot, but nowhere near as dynamic a midfielder as we need, already we have a midfield of statues with no movement and energy and Mallan makes that worse.

We should be building a formation / system / option that gets the best our of Scott Allan.

[The Modfather]

I’d move both on and put their wages towards the same kind of player. Mallan has his positives but we won’t, and shouldn’t, build the midfield around him to compliment those attributes. With Allan, even before his fitness issues I thought he looked a good player on his day but simply no longer the same player as in his second spell.

[MWHIBBIES]

Mallan has scored more free kicks for Hibs in a fortnight than Nisbet did in an entire season. Mallan also scored our most impressive individual goal last season.

Your arguments are failing to hit the target more than our current central midfielders.
They're really not. He was in great goalscoring form when he first joined, and still scores an above average amount. His general play is just very poor.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’d move both on and put their wages towards the same kind of player. Mallan has his positives but we won’t, and shouldn’t, build the midfield around him to compliment those attributes. With Allan, even before his fitness issues I thought he looked a good player on his day but simply no longer the same player as in his second spell.

Allan was really good last season. Double figures for goals and assists in a season that finished early. That player would make a difference.

[Mr. Wonderful]

He looks great in a video, he always will.

Correct. Videos don't show him getting shrugged off the ball on countless occasions like he's not even there, being positionally all over the place or misplacing simple 5 yard passes.

[J-C]

Unfortunately Ross's industrial style football doesn't allow creative midfielders like Allan and Mallan.

Mallan never got punted off to Turkey, he like Gullan wanted more game time and the opportunity came up. BTW 14 games and 2 goals isn't a bad return for a 4 month loan for Mallan..

[MWHIBBIES]

Unfortunately Ross's industrial style football doesn't allow creative midfielders like Allan and Mallan.

Mallan never got punted off to Turkey, he like Gullan wanted more game time and the opportunity came up. BTW 14 games and 2 goals isn't a bad return for a 4 month loan for Mallan..

It allowed Allan last season and begining of this season so thats just completely made up.

Mallan has never done enough and Ross still tried to play him and give him a chance.

[LaMotta]

They're really not. He was in great goalscoring form when he first joined, and still scores an above average amount. His general play is just very poor.


It allowed Allan last season and begining of this season so thats just completely made up.

Mallan has never done enough and Ross still tried to play him and give him a chance.

The original post stated that Mallan and Allan would have offered a different dimension on Saturday. Given the state of our bench, then that is 100% true.

Rather than just admit that Mallan is a better option than the likes of Drey Wright or Magennis, you've used the thread as yet another platform to repeat your lazy imbalanced negative over the top critique of him. Your general analysis is just very poor.

[MWHIBBIES]

The original post stated that Mallan and Allan would have offered a different dimension on Saturday. Given the state of our bench, then that is 100% true.

Rather than just admit that Mallan is a better option than the likes of Drey Wright or Magennis, you've used the thread as yet another platform to repeat your lazy imbalanced negative over the top critique of him. Your general analysis is just very poor.

You keep saying that, but its not true. Your problem seems to be more with me than what I'm saying.

Its impossible to know if Mallan would've offered more. If it was anything like his performance in the 2-2 draw with St Johnstone, he would've made it worse. Wright and Magennis did offer nothing, I agree there. Maybe all 3 aren't good enough? Mallan certainly isn't. Allan would've offered something, but I don't blame Hibs for loaning him out.

My analysis isn't lazy or imbalanced. I've given him plenty of good reviews, especially when he first joined. But he just isn't a good enough all round player to play for Hibs consistently. He isn't at the level of Scott Allan at all

[Hibs1969]

It is amazing how absence enhances his reputation, next we will be calling for him to be in the Scotland squad this summer. He got punted off to the Turkish leagues for a reason.

Decent player, good dead balls and can hit a long shot, but nowhere near as dynamic a midfielder as we need, already we have a midfield of statues with no movement and energy and Mallan makes that worse.

We should be building a formation / system / option that gets the best our of Scott Allan.
A Dynamic midfielder like Joe Newell? He was totally anonymous on Saturday and offered nothing. I’m beginning to the think there’s a touch of the emperor’s new clothes about him. He plays the occasional decent ball but more often than not he slows it down and plays a short pass to Hanlon. Either Mallan or Allan would have been an improvement on him at the weekend. Not that the rest of the midfield was much better though.

And I agree that we should be building the midfield round Allan for next season.

[Key West]

The original post stated that Mallan and Allan would have offered a different dimension on Saturday. Given the state of our bench, then that is 100% true.

Rather than just admit that Mallan is a better option than the likes of Drey Wright or Magennis, you've used the thread as yet another platform to repeat your lazy imbalanced negative over the top critique of him. Your general analysis is just very poor.

Basically that's all I am saying, that even on paper Mallan and Allan would have potentially gave us better of the bench, especially when there was very little evidence to suggest the others could pop up with an assist never mind a goal.

[Key West]

Finally, the rest of the midfield could have benefitted by being more balanced, the threat was always provided by the right hand side of the team and the opposition were well aware of that, we played a succession of right footed players on the left side who have never been comfortable and it has slowed us down and made us predictable more often than not.

[blackpoolhibs]

A fit Scott Allan in my opinion is a certain upgrade in our midfield, he's not fit though and cant be judged as so. Mallan on the other hand gets better the longer he's away, not my favourite player, and i wouldn't have him in the team.

Saying that, i'd play him before Newell, a player i really don't understand how he gets a game.

[HFC93]

I'm not convinced either would have made any difference on Saturday.

[Onceinawhile]

I'm not convinced either would have made any difference on Saturday.

Mallan might have scored a 30 yards screamer tbf.

That's the only way either of them would have made a difference.

[Iain G]

A Dynamic midfielder like Joe Newell? He was totally anonymous on Saturday and offered nothing. I’m beginning to the think there’s a touch of the emperor’s new clothes about him. He plays the occasional decent ball but more often than not he slows it down and plays a short pass to Hanlon. Either Mallan or Allan would have been an improvement on him at the weekend. Not that the rest of the midfield was much better though.

And I agree that we should be building the midfield round Allan for next season.

Mallan would be lost in the midfield as usual a d Allan could have made a difference of course has circumstances been different and I thought Newell did ok on Saturday getting on the ball and taking it forward with him on a few occasions. He needs movement and options in front of him who move, we wern't doing a lot of that on Saturday.

He is a good player who can look after the ball better than our other midfielders.

[blackpoolhibs]

Mallan would be lost in the midfield as usual a d Allan could have made a difference of course has circumstances been different and I thought Newell did ok on Saturday getting on the ball and taking it forward with him on a few occasions. He needs movement and options in front of him who move, we wern't doing a lot of that on Saturday.

He is a good player who can look after the ball better than our other midfielders.

I read this a lot, when has turning round in circles with the ball and passing it sideways or backwards looking after the ball well?

All it does is let the opposition get back into their shape, and lets our centre backs launch it forward aimlessly. For some balance, Newell has in the past drove forward and had shots at goal, or put people in, but for way too long in my opinion he has been a passenger.

[LaMotta]

I read this a lot, when has turning round in circles with the ball and passing it sideways or backwards looking after the ball well?

All it does is let the opposition get back into their shape, and lets our centre backs launch it forward aimlessly. For some balance, Newell has in the past drove forward and had shots at goal, or put people in, but for way too long in my opinion he has been a passenger.

I like Newell, but agree with this. Mikey Stewart on commentary highlighted the particular problem Newell's slow play was causing us in an attacking sense.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

I like Newell, but agree with this. Mikey Stewart on commentary highlighted the particular problem Newell's slow play was causing us in an attacking sense.

Newell was playing well before he picked up an injury. Since then he's been blowing hot and cold.

I was a fan before but the sight of seeing him jogging around the park on Sat with 15 mins to go in a SC final done it for me.

He wasn't alone in that respect though.

[blackpoolhibs]

Newell was playing well before he picked up an injury. Since then he's been blowing hot and cold.

I was a fan before but the sight of seeing him jogging around the park on Sat with 15 mins to go in a SC final done it for me.

He wasn't alone in that respect though.

What injury?

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

What injury?

He had a groin injury not long ago.

It wasn't anything major and i'm not making excuses for him either. We started to pick up results in his absence but he got his place back automatically when he was fit again. I didn't think at the time he should have walked back into the team.

[blackpoolhibs]

He had a groin injury not long ago.

It wasn't anything major and i'm not making excuses for him either. We started to pick up results in his absence but he got his place back automatically when he was fit again. I didn't think at the time he should have walked back into the team.

Was this the injury he got a couple of weeks ago, as i think he's been missing for a lot longer than that? :confused:

[JohnM1875]

Was this the injury he got a couple of weeks ago, as i think he's been missing for a lot longer than that? :confused:

He's had a few injuries this season that seemed minor but seemed to keep him out for a lot longer.

It's genuinely frustrating watching now negative he can be.

I actually think Gogic and Irvine formed a good partnership when Joe was out injured at the start of the year. Wasn't the same after he came back.

[Potty78]

He's had a few injuries this season that seemed minor but seemed to keep him out for a lot longer.

It's genuinely frustrating watching now negative he can be.

I actually think Gogic and Irvine formed a good partnership when Joe was out injured at the start of the year. Wasn't the same after he came back.

I agree, think we went on a decent run did we not with Gogic, Irvine and Murphy? I was looking forward to Newell coming back in but I dont think he's been great since he has.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Was this the injury he got a couple of weeks ago, as i think he's been missing for a lot longer than that? :confused:

That's fair enough, you don't rate him but the general consensus on here until fairly recently was that he's had a good season.

[Highwayman]

What’s not really been addressed on this thread is if Mallan and Allans futures lie elsewhere can Hibs supply sufficient funds to replace like with like.Such as :-

A creative midfielder who can split an opposing defence with a single pass thus creating a goal scoring opportunity.Also taking his ow goal tally into double figures for the season.

Also an industrious midfielder who’s delivery of set pieces is far superior to those of the current midfield.Also taking his goal tally to double figures.

Does anyone have an answer ?

[Potty78]

David Wetherspoon type player🤔

[heretoday]

Looking forward to seeing Mallan and Allan in Hibs shirts next season.

[MWHIBBIES]

Looking forward to seeing Mallan and Allan in Hibs shirts next season.

Why would we send a fit Stevie Mallan out on loan if we planned to use him in future?

I cant see him playing much, if at all. Likely to be moved on.

[blackpoolhibs]

That's fair enough, you don't rate him but the general consensus on here until fairly recently was that he's had a good season.

Was it?

Maybe we should have a poll. :greengrin

[J-C]

Looking forward to seeing Mallan and Allan in Hibs shirts next season.

Mallan left to get game time but as he wasn't in Ross's plans I can't see him getting game time, I think there's an option to buy on his loan deal.

[Magpie]

Interview with Stevie as he went out on loan. States that Ross didn’t want him to go but he felt it was the best for him to get more game time. Similar to Allan I suppose.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stevie-mallan-admits-hibs-team-23454823.amp

[Jim44]

I don’t think anyone should hold their breath waiting for Mallan coming back to ER. I suspect his Turkish team will take up their option to buy and get him for a nominal fee.

[Magpie]

Happy to see them both back in training today.

[Jim44]

I don’t think anyone should hold their breath waiting for Mallan coming back to ER. I suspect his Turkish team will take up their option to buy and get him for a nominal fee.


Happy to see them both back in training today.

Well I got that one wrong. :greengrin I’m happy with that.

[heretoday]

Mallan should stay.

[Clarence]

Mallan should stay.

In Turkey?

[worcesterhibby]

We need to find a system that gets the best out of both Allan and Mallan. I’d play them as the medium sized baubles in a Christmas Tree formation with Squirrel as the flashy star thing your wife’s mother bought, Gogic as the miniature cracker, Mcgennis as the pine cone decorated with glitter glue that your daughter did at primary and Doidge as the star on the top that never sits straight.

[Smartie]

We need to find a system that gets the best out of both Allan and Mallan. I’d play them as the medium sized baubles in a Christmas Tree formation with Squirrel as the flashy star thing your wife’s mother bought, Gogic as the miniature cracker, Mcgennis as the pine cone decorated with glitter glue that your daughter did at primary and Doidge as the star on the top that never sits straight.

There's about as much chance of us actually using the pair of them as Christmas tree decorations as there is of us finding a formation that accommodates both players at the same time.

I'm always keen to see Hibs try to accommodate a maverick type somewhere in the team (and in my opinion the player most likely to be accommodated is Scott Allan) but even the greatest romantic would have to accept that any team containing that pair would struggle defensively.

[Peevemor]

We need to find a system that gets the best out of both Allan and Mallan. I’d play them as the medium sized baubles in a Christmas Tree formation with Squirrel as the flashy star thing your wife’s mother bought, Gogic as the miniature cracker, Mcgennis as the pine cone decorated with glitter glue that your daughter did at primary and Doidge as the star on the top that never sits straight.

I'd imagine that, in your scenario, the bench would be some sort of nativity scene laid out to one side of the tree. I have a good idea of who'd be the donkey (we'll see if he finally comes onto his game this season). The virgin would probably be Lewis as he's such a nice chap so won't get involved in any mucky ninkynankynoo stuff - I know he has kids but hey - Leigh Griffiths! Then there's Ron & JR, but I'm struggling for a third wise man...

[Key West]

They might not be your first picks but Mallan and Allan would be decent additions to most SPL squads, they potentially give you something different from not tracking back and tackling which is creating chances and scoring goals, yes Gogic and the likes of Newell may affect the game more but their combined goals and assists for a season could probably be counted on one hand.

[1875Sean]

With another centre mid coming in today think one or both will be offski

[Hibiza]

In Turkey?

Def

[ian cruise]

We need to find a system that gets the best out of both Allan and Mallan. I’d play them as the medium sized baubles in a Christmas Tree formation with Squirrel as the flashy star thing your wife’s mother bought, Gogic as the miniature cracker, Mcgennis as the pine cone decorated with glitter glue that your daughter did at primary and Doidge as the star on the top that never sits straight.

Not on the pitch at the same time but I think we need a formation that allows Allan or Mallan to sit up to oof the midfield and create. I'd rotate the two to allow them to remain fresh. We could have done with Mallan second half of last season to add a bit of creativity whole Gogic, Newell⁩, Irvine were doing the running about.