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Stuart93
22-05-2021, 10:56 PM
Video doing the rounds on twitter of Doidge cracking the champagne open.

I must’ve missed the part where we had something to celebrate tonight?

madhatter
22-05-2021, 11:00 PM
Video doing the rounds on twitter of Doidge cracking the champagne open.

I must’ve missed the part where we had something to celebrate tonight?

Any link?

Stuart93
22-05-2021, 11:03 PM
Any link?

https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1396227628462452747?s=21

It’s potentially been deleted.

SteveHFC
22-05-2021, 11:04 PM
https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1396227628462452747?s=21

It’s potentially been deleted.

https://twitter.com/HuntingForT/status/1396235997902524418?s=20

madhatter
22-05-2021, 11:08 PM
https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1396227628462452747?s=21

It’s potentially been deleted.

Cheers. That’s a shocker. Didn’t realise they were having a party. Some pictures of the players are bad as well.

If it meant anything to them it wouldn’t happen on the same day. I’d feel sick and want to go home. Certainly not party.

Stuart93
22-05-2021, 11:10 PM
Cheers. That’s a shocker. Didn’t realise they were having a party. Some pictures of the players are bad as well.

If it meant anything to them it wouldn’t happen on the same day. I’d feel sick and want to go home. Certainly not party.

There was a picture going about that irked me a bit.

But to be popping champagne etc? It’s a ****ing joke.

cabbageandribs1875
22-05-2021, 11:14 PM
ach me no care, i personally couldn't possibly be more angrier at their lack of desire in some performances yesterday

madhatter
22-05-2021, 11:15 PM
There was a picture going about that irked me a bit.

But to be popping champagne etc? It’s a ****ing joke.

Whole thing is a joke. Should not be on same night. You’ve lost a cup final ffs. Says a lot about the club.

These players must feel untouchable. Sales pitch that makes them feel a million dollars, no public criticism ever and a champagne when you lose a cup final.

Clear out needed.

Hibs90
22-05-2021, 11:17 PM
Get rid.

Admins can I have a username change please.

The dalmeny
22-05-2021, 11:17 PM
I suspect most teams have an end of season bevvy. For most it was last week and they are all off on their break. We’ve had an extra week and clearly the boys aren’t going into town (hopefully) so if it’s not going to happen now it’s not going to happen.

there is however a time and a place so it’s not a good look. Also suspect this was private, ‘guests’ need to stop videoing and posting these to stop them going public

TelaStella
22-05-2021, 11:17 PM
Don’t look like the only ones. Who’s the gimp at the start? https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1396239029495025676?s=21


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TelaStella
22-05-2021, 11:21 PM
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Hibs90
22-05-2021, 11:21 PM
Don’t look like the only ones. Who’s the gimp at the start? https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1396239029495025676?s=21


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Steven Bradley

TelaStella
22-05-2021, 11:23 PM
Steven Bradley

See that now


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SaulGoodman
22-05-2021, 11:23 PM
****ing ********s the lot of them

Vault Boy
22-05-2021, 11:24 PM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

PolmontHibby
22-05-2021, 11:25 PM
If I had put in as piss poor a performance at work as they did today I would be doing my drinking in private and thinking hard on my employment.

In fact now I think about it, I am having a few whiskies because of their piss poor performance and certainly not celebrating in a crowd - sums it up really, not the first time losing Hibs players have shown complete lack of character after a game.

SaulGoodman
22-05-2021, 11:28 PM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

If a roof I built collapses and then I’m shown in videos online of me popping champagne and drinking pints without a care in the world is that acceptable from me?

Or is that me showing the folk that paid for the roof that I couldn’t give a **** what happens?

Stuart93
22-05-2021, 11:29 PM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

Seems a lot of people will agree to disagree with you on this one

RossScott1991
22-05-2021, 11:30 PM
Maybe it’s just my character, but I couldn’t think of anything worse than going out after losing a cup final. Soon as game was over today all potential plans were shelved , I stopped drinking and got myself home too
annoyed to even make a day of it. It’s just a poor image regardless, we had two weak shots on target all game. They were beyond embarrassing. Have some shame

Vault Boy
22-05-2021, 11:31 PM
If a roof I built collapses and then I’m shown in videos online of me popping champagne and drinking pints without a care in the world is that acceptable from me?

Or is that me showing the folk that paid for the roof that I couldn’t give a **** what happens?

Absolutely nonsensical comparison. This is competitive sport, not a trade. There are winners and there are losers, it's the nature of the beast. As fans, we pay for tickets to gain a service and support our club, we're not paying for a specific task like 'win the Scottish Cup', if only it were that easy.

A fallen roof might well injure someone. Footballers lost a football match, it feels ****ing crap, but it happens. Leave their personal lives out of it, it's not hard to do.

madhatter
22-05-2021, 11:32 PM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

Who’s paying for it? I’m assuming club. We’ve paid for STs and been unable to attend the games. People have been furloughed and lost their jobs while these guys kept their jobs as footballers. They’ve been lucky in many many ways as some people had to isolate in small bubbles with no social interaction while these players had banter on the training pitch.

Point is, a football player genuinely trying to achieve the best in their career, would they be able to go for a drink after losing a cup final? I couldn’t, I’d be fuming. I couldn’t go for one after losing a match.

Danderhall Hibs
22-05-2021, 11:32 PM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

You’ll see I’m defending the club and team elsewhere but see this - they should be home in bed. Out of sight. Have a bevvy on Wednesday if need be.

They know what this means - don’t put yourself in sight or danger. Terrible stuff to carry on after their on field performance.

It’s not difficult- off the bus and home to bed.

SaulGoodman
22-05-2021, 11:33 PM
Absolutely nonsensical comparison. This is competitive sport, not a trade. There are winners and there are losers, it's the nature of the beast. As fans, we pay for tickets to gain a service and support our club, we're not paying for a specific task like 'win the Scottish Cup', if only it were that easy.

A fallen roof might well injure someone. Footballers lost a football match, it feels ****ing crap, but it happens. Leave their personal lives out of it, it's not hard to do.

Pish, win The Scottish cup? I’m not paying for that, I’m paying for the players to not make me look like a **** by thinking they could achieve something today.

Vault Boy
22-05-2021, 11:33 PM
Seems a lot of people will agree to disagree with you on this one

That's fine, it's a hill I'm willing to die on. It's one of the most toxic parts of football culture and it needs to change.

Hibs90
22-05-2021, 11:35 PM
They are allowed to have a life but all these videos and pictures are showing is the character of them. Me personally, after losing a cup final, knowing full well fans would be raging. I'd be avoiding being filmed.

FitbaFolkKen
22-05-2021, 11:37 PM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

No, he’s chosen to go out on the lash and have a party and a good time after losing a cup final. Nothing is private nowadays so if going out is important enough to piss off the fans who have supported him all season then that is on him. The difference being his life is in the public eye and will be judged accordingly.

A bit of common sense would suggest to reign it in for a night and pick it up tomorrow.

On top of that it looked like a house party with a fair amount of folk. If he is breaking gov rules is that acceptable as it’s the end of season? Another can of worms entirely but I don’t think it’s a good look for Christian or the club and flies in the face of the messages Ron has been delivering recently.


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Sir David Gray
22-05-2021, 11:38 PM
If I was part of that performance I wouldn't be anywhere near social media for at least a week.

That performance was an embarrassment to the club and should be deemed unacceptable to everyone involved with the club.

Callyballybe
22-05-2021, 11:38 PM
Maybe it’s just my character, but I couldn’t think of anything worse than going out after losing a cup final. Soon as game was over today all potential plans were shelved , I stopped drinking and got myself home too
annoyed to even make a day of it. It’s just a poor image regardless, we had two weak shots on target all game. They were beyond embarrassing. Have some shame

Yep. Any potential plans I had were done after that result. Disappointed to see the players having what looks like such a 'great' time.

bawheid
22-05-2021, 11:39 PM
You’ll see I’m defending the club and team elsewhere but see this - they should be home in bed. Out of sight. Have a bevvy on Wednesday if need be.

They know what this means - don’t put yourself in sight or danger. Terrible stuff to carry on after their on field performance.

It’s not difficult- off the bus and home to bed.

Yep, it’s 2012 stuff. Poor.

madhatter
22-05-2021, 11:39 PM
That's fine, it's a hill I'm willing to die on. It's one of the most toxic parts of football culture and it needs to change.

What’s toxic about it? Thinking that footballers should have a degree of social awareness? Nobody is saying they shouldn’t have a private life.

Sean Mackie is recording them, they have chosen to be recorded. Doidge has clearly seen he’s being recorded. This is after being beaten in a cup final.

Leave it a few days at least and do it privately without recordings.

Danderhall Hibs
22-05-2021, 11:40 PM
If I was part of that performance I wouldn't be anywhere near social media for at least a week.

That performance was an embarrassment to the club and should be deemed unacceptable to everyone involved with the club.

Absolutely - I only played sport at an amateur level and would’ve been home in bed early doors after a performance like that.

cabbageandribs1875
22-05-2021, 11:41 PM
i'd far rather hear of any players that decided to skip it or showed face for 30 mins but preferred to go home, i'd certainly have a lot of respect for THEM

Vault Boy
22-05-2021, 11:48 PM
What’s toxic about it? Thinking that footballers should have a degree of social awareness? Nobody is saying they shouldn’t have a private life.

Sean Mackie is recording them, they have chosen to be recorded. Doidge has clearly seen he’s being recorded. This is after being beaten in a cup final.

Leave it a few days at least and do it privately without recordings.

I'm going to assume this was arranged well in advance and had to be specifically organised in line with being Covid secure, making sure all the players could attend, and that the venue would be private and available.

It seems like some younger guys, not really involved in the final, have put up some Instagram stories. Being recorded doesn't mean they know it's being posted online does it? The fact that Doidge hasn't posted anything publicly himself suggests he's perfectly socially aware. People record video and take photos at parties, it was daft to publish them, but that's not down to the subjects of the photos. The guys who posted them have either seen sense or been told to delete them, but the screenshots now live on.

It's a toxic part of football because it's far too invasive and wouldn't exist in most other forms of work. It's a tabloid kind of perspective, and one we could do without. If players are out during the season, over drinking, embarrassing themselves - then fair enough, their commitment and professionalism comes into question. This isn't that though, it's an end of work party and it shouldn't be used as a stick to bash players who will doubtlessly be hurting too.

Unseen work
22-05-2021, 11:48 PM
They’ve had a long season where I imagine they’ve not been allowed to socialise whatsoever as they’re under even stricter restrictions.

This would all have been planned in advance and despite losing they’ve still done something no other Hibs team has managers in 16 years.

Does it look great? No. But you need to remain sensible about it, they’re young guys who are having a drink.

People saying nonsense like when I have a bad day I don’t go home and celebrate I think about my job is rubbish.

Plenty people after a bad day go home and have a drink to help relax or to take their mind off things. I dare say they don’t go however many months without a drink either.

How many people think of their employer or what’s happened at work a night out? None or very few I’d bet.

Footballers actually seem to come together more after a night out. You can’t underestimate the bonding that is done and also being there for each other tonight they’ll no doubt discuss how raging they are and how they want to put things right etc, probably a few choice words said too.

It’s the end of the season, let them have a drink.

shamo9
22-05-2021, 11:50 PM
They are allowed to have a life but all these videos and pictures are showing is the character of them. Me personally, after losing a cup final, knowing full well fans would be raging. I'd be avoiding being filmed.

This 100 percent tbh. It makes me think of how elite sportsmen like Andy Murray or Ronaldo react to losing finals. They certainly wouldn't be in any mood for a party.

Danderhall Hibs
22-05-2021, 11:51 PM
They’ve had a long season where I imagine they’ve not been allowed to socialise whatsoever as they’re under even stricter restrictions.

This would all have been planned in advance and despite losing they’ve still done something no other Hibs team has managers in 16 years.

Does it look great? No. But you need to remain sensible about it, they’re young guys who are having a drink.

People saying nonsense like when I have a bad day I don’t go home and celebrate I think about my job is rubbish.

Plenty people after a bad day go home and have a drink to help relax or to take their mind off things. I dare say they don’t go however many months without a drink either.

How many people think of their employer or what’s happened at work a night out? None or very few I’d bet.

Footballers actually seem to come together more after a night out. You can’t underestimate the bonding that is done and also being there for each other tonight they’ll no doubt discuss how raging they are and how they want to put things right etc, probably a few choice words said too.

It’s the end of the season, let them have a drink.

Do it midweek when the dust has settled - it’s not difficult to work out how this would play out.

PolmontHibby
22-05-2021, 11:52 PM
Call me old fashioned, but in my "profession" if I had let down my employers colleagues, or customers in such a manner as those players did today (e.g. lose a bid/contract) you can be sure i would not be out getting photographed or on video enjoying a drink/celebrating.

And if I was you can be damn sure I would be pulled up about it - telling them to sod off as my personal life is not my professional life wouldn't cut it - that's just reality.

Sir David Gray
22-05-2021, 11:55 PM
They’ve had a long season where I imagine they’ve not been allowed to socialise whatsoever as they’re under even stricter restrictions.

This would all have been planned in advance and despite losing they’ve still done something no other Hibs team has managers in 16 years.

Does it look great? No. But you need to remain sensible about it, they’re young guys who are having a drink.

People saying nonsense like when I have a bad day I don’t go home and celebrate I think about my job is rubbish.

Plenty people after a bad day go home and have a drink to help relax or to take their mind off things. I dare say they don’t go however many months without a drink either.

How many people think of their employer or what’s happened at work a night out? None or very few I’d bet.

Footballers actually seem to come together more after a night out. You can’t underestimate the bonding that is done and also being there for each other tonight they’ll no doubt discuss how raging they are and how they want to put things right etc, probably a few choice words said too.

It’s the end of the season, let them have a drink.

They've let the club down yesterday and should realise that. Personally if I'd have been involved in such an embarrassment in a cup final I'd have been in bed by 9pm.

Danderhall Hibs
22-05-2021, 11:56 PM
They've let the club down yesterday and should realise that. Personally if I'd have been involved in such an embarrassment in a cup final I'd have been in bed by 9pm.

:agree: if they don’t understand what today meant they shouldn’t be here.

hibee_gaffney
22-05-2021, 11:57 PM
Absolutely raging at this. It’s the end of the season and 3rd is something to celebrate but not tonight! I’ve lost amateur finals that meant **** all compared to this in the past and nobody has seen me for days. Final boot in the baws on a shocking day for Hibernian FC.


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Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:01 AM
Do it midweek when the dust has settled - it’s not difficult to work out how this would play out.

You would still get people moaning.

I imagine most have holidays now booked too so this weekend is probably the only available time for the whole club - which I think is important to remember.

It’s not just the players. Tonight is for the whole club and the staff in the background who have made this season possible.

They deserve it

Scotty Leither
23-05-2021, 12:01 AM
Yep, it’s 2012 stuff. Poor.

Yup...strong leadership sorts this sort of *****e out. Shades of 2012 here.

Scotty Leither
23-05-2021, 12:02 AM
You would still get people moaning.

I imagine most have holidays now booked too so this weekend is probably the only available time for the whole club - which I think is important to remember.

It’s not just the players. Tonight is for the whole club and the staff in the background who have made this season possible.

They deserve it

You're trolling, right?

S4uzee
23-05-2021, 12:04 AM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

What are our expectations ... they are ****ing losers. If you’re gonna have a ‘party’ I don’t want to be paying my money to see you play for Hibs

Danderhall Hibs
23-05-2021, 12:04 AM
You would still get people moaning.

I imagine most have holidays now booked too so this weekend is probably the only available time for the whole club - which I think is important to remember.

It’s not just the players. Tonight is for the whole club and the staff in the background who have made this season possible.

They deserve it

It should’ve been scrapped. Like a poor performance can result in the Christmas night out being cancelled.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 12:05 AM
I'm going to assume this was arranged well in advance and had to be specifically organised in line with being Covid secure, making sure all the players could attend, and that the venue would be private and available.

It seems like some younger guys, not really involved in the final, have put up some Instagram stories. Being recorded doesn't mean they know it's being posted online does it? The fact that Doidge hasn't posted anything publicly himself suggests he's perfectly socially aware. People record video and take photos at parties, it was daft to publish them, but that's not down to the subjects of the photos. The guys who posted them have either seen sense or been told to delete them, but the screenshots now live on.

It's a toxic part of football because it's far too invasive and wouldn't exist in most other forms of work. It's a tabloid kind of perspective, and one we could do without. If players are out during the season, over drinking, embarrassing themselves - then fair enough, their commitment and professionalism comes into question. This isn't that though, it's an end of work party and it shouldn't be used as a stick to bash players who will doubtlessly be hurting too.

A football player is not like most other forms of work. It’s closest to showbiz. Grossly overpaid at the top of the industry and unsurprisingly comes with enhanced scrutiny in the public eye.

Timing and recordings are terrible. They put it in the public eye, it is their doing. People blame social media and some toxic football mentality. These guys who have posted Instagram stories chose to. We did not force them to do that.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:07 AM
You're trolling, right?

So because we lose one game we should cancel a night out which will already have been arranged and paid for?

The behind the scenes staff that have worked hard all season don’t get their night out because 14 players were poor today?

hibee_gaffney
23-05-2021, 12:08 AM
It should’ve been scrapped. Like a poor performance can result in the Christmas night out being cancelled.

Exactly, get away home and think about how bad that performance was. There will be plenty fans who sacked a night out, yet they think this is acceptable. Very poor.


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S4uzee
23-05-2021, 12:08 AM
So because we lose one game we should cancel a night out which will already have been arranged and paid for?

The behind the scenes staff that have worked hard all season don’t get their night out because 14 players were poor today?

Absolutely should be cancelled. Celebrate failure?

Everyone talking about st j doing a historic double ... should’ve been Hibs

shamo9
23-05-2021, 12:09 AM
Footballers actually seem to come together more after a night out. You can’t underestimate the bonding that is done and also being there for each other tonight they’ll no doubt discuss how raging they are and how they want to put things right etc, probably a few choice words said too.

It’s the end of the season, let them have a drink.

Put things right? You would think that desire would have been instilled after St Johnstone beat us on the way to lifting the League Cup. Or in the two league games against them since.

You don't get an unlimited amount of opportunities to set things right. They had an opportunity today and didn't perform. It's done now. A fair few of them will be away if rumours are to be believed. Unfortunately they'll leave in ignominy after an abject collective performance. That's football for you. Winners and losers.

We as a support just have to move on. We live in hope that their replacements will have a bit more about them when it comes to delivering on the big occasions.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 12:10 AM
So because we lose one game we should cancel a night out which will already have been arranged and paid for?

The behind the scenes staff that have worked hard all season don’t get their night out because 14 players were poor today?

Could’ve saved booking the venue and just popped along to the St Johnstone changing room.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:11 AM
Exactly, get away home and think about how bad that performance was. There will be plenty fans who sacked a night out, yet they think this is acceptable. Very poor.


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I’ve been to many Hibs final which we’ve lost, I’ve never once cancelled my plans after whether it was the pub with my friends/family or back to their house to drown our sorrows and still try have a good night together.

The players are doing the same.

This go home and lock yourself in your room and think about what you’ve done wrong is laughable.

They lost a game and were awful, they’ll know that. But sitting in your room won’t fix that, they’ll sort it on the training pitch in pre season.

It’s a private function is its staff, family, friends and maybe some sponsors.

Vault Boy
23-05-2021, 12:11 AM
A football player is not like most other forms of work. It’s closest to showbiz. Grossly overpaid at the top of the industry and unsurprisingly comes with enhanced scrutiny in the public eye.

Timing and recordings are terrible. They put it in the public eye, it is their doing. People blame social media and some toxic football mentality. These guys who have posted Instagram stories chose to. We did not force them to do that.

Showbiz, notorious for its toxic invasions of privacy and overbearing media. This isn't the top level and our players aren't earning megabucks.

Who posted them? Again, it wasn't Doidge, it wasn't any of the players who played in the final. It's not their doing, it's not their fault, they've done nothing wrong- but they're now the ones bearing the brunt of it. If this thread was just here to say 'it was daft of Sean Mackie to post this', I'd be in agreement - but that's not what's happening.

Anyway, I know I'm the minority in this thread so I'll duck out and let people crack on.

SaulGoodman
23-05-2021, 12:12 AM
I’ve been to many Hibs final which we’ve lost, I’ve never once cancelled my plans after whether it was the pub with my friends/family or back to their house to drown our sorrows and still try have a good night together.

The players are doing the same.

This go home and lock yourself in your room and think about what you’ve done wrong is laughable.

They lost a game and were awful, they’ll know that. But sitting in your room won’t fix that, they’ll sort it on the training pitch in pre season.

It’s a private function is its staff, family, friends and maybe some sponsors.

If it’s a private function it shouldn’t be posted online

S4uzee
23-05-2021, 12:13 AM
I’ve been to many Hibs final which we’ve lost, I’ve never once cancelled my plans after whether it was the pub with my friends/family or back to their house to drown our sorrows and still try have a good night together.

The players are doing the same.

This go home and lock yourself in your room and think about what you’ve done wrong is laughable.

They lost a game and were awful, they’ll know that. But sitting in your room won’t fix that, they’ll sort it on the training pitch in pre season.

It’s a private function is its staff, family, friends and maybe some sponsors.

“They’ll know that” .... they didn’t care that’s the problem

Hulk1875
23-05-2021, 12:13 AM
Absolute shocker of a performance I can see both sides of the argument
But these are unprecedented times first time being allowed out after long good season position wise, no problem

Jim44
23-05-2021, 12:13 AM
I can sense, taste and smell everybody’s disappointment but for God’s sake get a grip. The club’s pre-arranged end of season bash was always going to go ahead irrespective of the result. Do some of you seriously think JR was going to announce in the dressing room that the party was off and sack-cloth and ashes was the order of the day?

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:14 AM
Absolutely should be cancelled. Celebrate failure?

Everyone talking about st j doing a historic double ... should’ve been Hibs

This is the problem, people don’t understand it’s an end of season private event.

They’re not celebrating losing the cup final.

It’s everyone coming together for their end of season night out. A season where they’ve been under strict restrictions than everyone else and this is the night they get to go out and enjoy it with everyone.

They’ve came third which is an achievement in itself and everyone at the club should be able to have a drink to that.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:15 AM
If it’s a private function it shouldn’t be posted online

I forgot no ones allows to take photos/videos at a club event.

Hulk1875
23-05-2021, 12:15 AM
This is the problem, people don’t understand it’s an end of season private event.

They’re not celebrating losing the cup final.

It’s everyone coming together for their end of season night out. A season where they’ve been under strict restrictions than everyone else and this is the night they get to go out and enjoy it with everyone.

They’ve came third which is an achievement in itself and everyone at the club should be able to have a drink to that.

👏🏻 Basically what I said few posts before

Scotty Leither
23-05-2021, 12:15 AM
[QUOTE=Unseen work;6576285]So because we lose one game we should cancel a night out which will already have been arranged and paid for?

Yes, in short.

SaulGoodman
23-05-2021, 12:17 AM
I forgot no ones allows to take photos/videos at a club event.

Not in the context of today.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:19 AM
Personally I think it would be horribly selfish for the club to cancel an event because the players lost.

I think people are genuinely failing to realise there’s more people at the club than Ross and the players.

The back room staff and people we won’t even know of deserve this night. They’ve been working their socks off all season for little praise. This is the clubs way of saying thank you.

Lose 1 game and throw the dummy away and cancel everyone’s night? That’s one way to annoy your staff.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 12:21 AM
Showbiz, notorious for its toxic invasions of privacy and overbearing media. This isn't the top level and our players aren't earning megabucks.

Who posted them? Again, it wasn't Doidge, it wasn't any of the players who played in the final. It's not their doing, it's not their fault, they've done nothing wrong- but they're now the ones bearing the brunt of it. If this thread was just here to say 'it was daft of Sean Mackie to post this', I'd be in agreement - but that's not what's happening.

Anyway, I know I'm the minority in this thread so I'll duck out and let people crack on.

Nobody invaded their privacy. It was presented to the world. We didn’t have a spy at the venue. Someone in the group posted it onto social media. They either knew what they were doing or has no idea it would go down so poorly. Both are worrying.

hibee_gaffney
23-05-2021, 12:22 AM
I’ve been to many Hibs final which we’ve lost, I’ve never once cancelled my plans after whether it was the pub with my friends/family or back to their house to drown our sorrows and still try have a good night together.

The players are doing the same.

This go home and lock yourself in your room and think about what you’ve done wrong is laughable.

They lost a game and were awful, they’ll know that. But sitting in your room won’t fix that, they’ll sort it on the training pitch in pre season.

It’s a private function is its staff, family, friends and maybe some sponsors.

Okay I can accept that but is there any need to plaster it all over social media? A quiet end of season celebration I can just about accept, but flooding Twitter with photos/videos is unacceptable in my opinion.


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Scotty Leither
23-05-2021, 12:23 AM
Personally I think it would be horribly selfish for the club to cancel an event because the players lost.

I think people are genuinely failing to realise there’s more people at the club than Ross and the players.

The back room staff and people we won’t even know of deserve this night. They’ve been working their socks off all season for little praise. This is the clubs way of saying thank you.

Lose 1 game and throw the dummy away and cancel everyone’s night? That’s one way to annoy your staff.

So the staff are going to be "annoyed"? Boo-hoo. Welcome to loserville.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:25 AM
Okay I can accept that but is there any need to plaster it all over social media? A quiet end of season celebration I can just about accept, but flooding Twitter with photos/videos is unacceptable in my opinion.


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The social media part is another story.

As far as I know there’s only been a couple.

Mackie posting a photo and video with Magennis, Dabrowski and Bradley. Nothing bad itself in them but it’s insensitive and I’m sure some of the older players will say it’s daft and not to do it etc. On the other hand it’s a photo with your pals.

Doidges one looks bad but by the looks of it he doesn’t know that’s going on Instagram and has been posted by his girlfriend, again I’m sure he wished she never posted that.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 12:25 AM
Personally I think it would be horribly selfish for the club to cancel an event because the players lost.

I think people are genuinely failing to realise there’s more people at the club than Ross and the players.

The back room staff and people we won’t even know of deserve this night. They’ve been working their socks off all season for little praise. This is the clubs way of saying thank you.

Lose 1 game and throw the dummy away and cancel everyone’s night? That’s one way to annoy your staff.

What about the people who worked their socks off and then lost jobs at clubs due to COVID? Were they invited along? Clubs way of saying thank you? Does the club have a massive party at ER planned for us fans then? Peroni for me, cheers.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:27 AM
So the staff are going to be "annoyed"? Boo-hoo. Welcome to loserville.

The staff in the background that have worked hard all season under strict restrictions have been told they’ll have a nice night out at the end of the season with their family, friends and colleagues? Probably been planned months in advance and have made all sorts of arrangements around it.

Getting told with a couple of hours notice it’s called off because the players had an off day?

Huge slap in the face to everyone at the club, bear in mind some were working on a reduced wage and I dare say some for free as they love the club.

Danderhall Hibs
23-05-2021, 12:27 AM
I can sense, taste and smell everybody’s disappointment but for God’s sake get a grip. The club’s pre-arranged end of season bash was always going to go ahead irrespective of the result. Do some of you seriously think JR was going to announce in the dressing room that the party was off and sack-cloth and ashes was the order of the day?

The end of season bash should’ve been booked for a different night.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:29 AM
What about the people who worked their socks off and then lost jobs at clubs due to COVID? Were they invited along? Clubs way of saying thank you? Does the club have a massive party at ER planned for us fans then? Peroni for me, cheers.

Other clubs is different stories.

Our club done what they had to get by and I’m sure that meant some staff taking on additional roles and doing a lot more.

I think they had one arranged for fans but everyone said no I’m going home to lock myself in my room and not speak to anyone for days. Shame really.

Unseen work
23-05-2021, 12:30 AM
The end of season bash should’ve been booked for a different night.

It’s the 22 May, I imagine we’ll be back to pre season very soon and the players and everyone at the club won’t have much time off.

Delay it for a week so the fans feel a bit better? But will moan regardless? Delay everyone being able to arrange holidays etc, would never work.

Danderhall Hibs
23-05-2021, 12:35 AM
It’s the 22 May, I imagine we’ll be back to pre season very soon and the players and everyone at the club won’t have much time off.

Delay it for a week so the fans feel a bit better? But will moan regardless? Delay everyone being able to arrange holidays etc, would never work.

No delay if it’s always booked for 25/5. If you can’t make that’s just a thing that happens on works nights out.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 12:36 AM
Other clubs is different stories.

Our club done what they had to get by and I’m sure that meant some staff taking on additional roles and doing a lot more.

I think they had one arranged for fans but everyone said no I’m going home to lock myself in my room and not speak to anyone for days. Shame really.

If staff are on reduced wages or working for free, why not forget about a party this season and give them the money? Surely that would mean more for their heroic efforts?

Anything for fans would be dependent on winning, unsurprising.

Scotty Leither
23-05-2021, 12:36 AM
The staff in the background that have worked hard all season under strict restrictions have been told they’ll have a nice night out at the end of the season with their family, friends and colleagues? Probably been planned months in advance and have made all sorts of arrangements around it.

Getting told with a couple of hours notice it’s called off because the players had an off day?

Huge slap in the face to everyone at the club, bear in mind some were working on a reduced wage and I dare say some for free as they love the club.

That's hard lines then eh? Like I said previously, I don't want to see players with club ties draped round their foreheads a la 2012 in a wacky style celebrating abject defeat as it gives out the wrong message, and moreover hints at poor leadership from within the club.
If that upsets them, fine then beat it to another club of their choosing where losing big games in a meek fashion is acceptable.

Scotty Leither
23-05-2021, 12:39 AM
It’s the 22 May, I imagine we’ll be back to pre season very soon and the players and everyone at the club won’t have much time off.

Delay it for a week so the fans feel a bit better? But will moan regardless? Delay everyone being able to arrange holidays etc, would never work.

Or just cancel it on the back of a **** result? i know which stance would find more favour with the wider support.

matty_f
23-05-2021, 12:41 AM
No delay if it’s always booked for 25/5. If you can’t make that’s just a thing that happens on works nights out.

The player of the year event is next weekend, they could have tagged it on to that, surely?

PolmontHibby
23-05-2021, 12:41 AM
If staff are on reduced wages or working for free, why not forget about a party this season and give them the money? Surely that would mean more for their heroic efforts?

Anything for fans would be dependent on winning, unsurprising.

Fair point.....though I am also surprised that allowing end of season bevvies is part of the SFA/SPFL bubble arrangements.
I also work in a sector that has a special deal during COVID, but having a staff piss up is not part of the deal.

CloudSquall
23-05-2021, 12:41 AM
You would think someone at some point would have at least had a word about posting videos etc on social media given the result, but then maybe the dopamine hit was too much to miss out on.

I see both sides of the argument, but if I'd had an absolute shocker at work costing the company projects and a big cash injection I don't think I'd be going radio rental with the champagne corking at the end of year bash the same night.

Danderhall Hibs
23-05-2021, 12:47 AM
The player of the year event is next weekend, they could have tagged it on to that, surely?

Doesn’t seem a difficult thing to do. Unless loads of holidays are already booked?

Glory Lurker
23-05-2021, 12:58 AM
At least in 2012 we scored a goal.

AgentDaleCooper
23-05-2021, 02:01 AM
it's an end of season piss up. there's nothing wrong with that. the idiots putting it on social media clearly have no idea of/care for how the fans are feeling, but if i had been working my arse off for months on end, i'd want a pint and a party when it was over.

it looks really bad, but it really isn't that bad IMO.

Stokesy's on fire
23-05-2021, 02:21 AM
Disgraceful stuff further proof that they don't care one bit. A team of imposters

Swedish hibee
23-05-2021, 03:00 AM
Should not have been posted on social media. Very stupid of him to do this.

ShinyFantastic
23-05-2021, 03:17 AM
They don’t care

marinello59
23-05-2021, 04:55 AM
Young men let off steam by having a bevvy? I couldn’t care less. Maybe I’m just too old to keep up with the latest social media pile on or I have enough things in my life to be genuinely angry about.

Nakedmanoncrack
23-05-2021, 05:08 AM
https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1396227628462452747?s=19

Northernhibee
23-05-2021, 05:38 AM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

100%. Christian Doidge likes his wine, they’re at the end of the season and are entitled to let off a little steam. It may be one of the last time they see some of their colleagues when they move on to new clubs.

The performance yesterday was very poor but some of the posts on here are worse.

Alex Trager
23-05-2021, 05:43 AM
They are allowed to have a life but all these videos and pictures are showing is the character of them. Me personally, after losing a cup final, knowing full well fans would be raging. I'd be avoiding being filmed.

Bang on.

That is an absolute shocker from this lot.

Not sure what is worse, the performance or that

Northernhibee
23-05-2021, 05:44 AM
Bang on.

That is an absolute shocker from this lot.

Not sure what is worse, the performance or that

The performance. Comfortably.

Next.

Alex Trager
23-05-2021, 05:49 AM
The performance. Comfortably.

Next.

You’re right but one leads to another and that sort of character is not the one I want at my club after that sort of a performance.

Genuinely shocked to see these pictures.

Gutless

J-C
23-05-2021, 05:50 AM
https://twitter.com/louis1875zz/status/1396227628462452747?s=19


The other thing of note is where is this and does it not break with Covid rules re amount of people in a confined space and no social distancing. Also the fact Doidge seems to be celebrating, what the hell has he got to celebrate it's like a kick in the teethe to fans after yesterday's dire performance.

hibsbollah
23-05-2021, 05:52 AM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.

:agree:

MunsterHibee
23-05-2021, 06:08 AM
What is it with the modern day player and being thick as two planks. Far too often professional footballers put their foot in it like this. Just after losing a cup final in which we were absolutely dog ***** they go have a party when the majority of us are gutted and angry at the feeble attempt yesterday. Someone needs to have a word with this clowns tbh. Finishing 3rd was a very good achievement but we don't get a trophy for finishing 3rd. Celebrating like this after losing a big cup final reeks of a lower mentality that needs to be eradicated at our club.

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Northernhibee
23-05-2021, 06:13 AM
You’re right but one leads to another and that sort of character is not the one I want at my club after that sort of a performance.

Genuinely shocked to see these pictures.

Gutless
You must be easily shocked.

marinello59
23-05-2021, 06:30 AM
What is it with the modern day player and being thick as two planks. Far too often professional footballers put their foot in it like this. Just after losing a cup final in which we were absolutely dog ***** they go have a party when the majority of us are gutted and angry at the feeble attempt yesterday. Someone needs to have a word with this clowns tbh. Finishing 3rd was a very good achievement but we don't get a trophy for finishing 3rd. Celebrating like this after losing a big cup final reeks of a lower mentality that needs to be eradicated at our club.

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Modern day players are no different from players past who would haves done exactly the same thing and had end of season drinks but without the moral guardians of social media judging them. Party? Celebration? Or workmates marking the end of a weird covid era campaign with a few drinks together? Depends on how you want to spin it I guess.

theonlywayisup
23-05-2021, 06:30 AM
Jeez! It was the end of season party that every club up and down the country probably happens. If we didn't have the cup final yesterday, then it would have been a real party. However, we had a cup final, which we unfortunately lost. Do people really honestly believe that we should have cancelled it. I'm sure the reaction at the start would have been "look boys, it's really disappointing that we lost, we're all to blame for it, but we've had a very good season finishing third, so let's try and enjoy the party, especially as some of you won't be here next season" or something like that.

To them it's a job, so why shouldn't they try and enjoy their end of season party.

660
23-05-2021, 06:32 AM
Jeez! It was the end of season party that every club up and down the country probably happens. If we didn't have the cup final yesterday, then it would have been a real party. However, we had a cup final, which we unfortunately lost. Do people really honestly believe that we should have cancelled it. I'm sure the reaction at the start would have been "look boys, it's really disappointing that we lost, we're all to blame for it, but we've had a very good season finishing third, so let's try and enjoy the party, especially as some of you won't be here next season" or something like that.

To them it's a job, so why shouldn't they try and enjoy their end of season party.

And a 3 second clip is easy to take out of context. I’m sure the staff and players are all disappointed.

Pretty Boy
23-05-2021, 06:51 AM
It's not like the players were advertising the drinking sesh and deliberately rubbing our faces in it. Someone has used a video without their permission and it will inevitably blow up.

I'm not all that bothered. In an ideal world they might be at home wearing a cilice and practicing self flagellation but the truth is it's their job, nothing more. They'll be upset about losing the game but it simply doesn't hurt them as much as it hurts us. Works over for the year, end of year night out goes ahead.

Of all the things I am pissed off about after yesterday the players having a few drinks is pretty far down the list. The damage was done long before then, cancelling their night out would have been little more than an empty gesture.

danhibees1875
23-05-2021, 07:10 AM
I had some fizz on ice, a selection of beers and gins, and the Hibs whisky sitting waiting for an evening of celebrations... I then popped the fizz and had pretty much the exact same night I was going to have regardless.

They can crack on with their lives as they see fit and over the entirety of the season deserve to do so.

MunsterHibee
23-05-2021, 07:16 AM
Modern day players are no different from players past who would haves done exactly the same thing and had end of season drinks but without the moral guardians of social media judging them. Party? Celebration? Or workmates marking the end of a weird covid era campaign with a few drinks together? Depends on how you want to spin it I guess.I've no issue with players enjoying themselves or having an end of work night out with their colleagues they're human beings and are entitled to have fun but the timing was absolute ridiculous in my opinion. They are in a high profile job and in the public eye alot. It's not as if they're having a work night out with their work mates in McDonald's. We just lost a cup final so common sense should have prevailed. Fans were going to be hurting over the loss and to see the players having drinks and popping champagne a few hours after a poor defeat is extremely poor timing. Why not Wait until next weekend for a work night out??? I'm sure things would have been abit calmer after a week. The timing was all wrong for me. Can't blame the fans are being p!ssed off.

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Bridge hibs
23-05-2021, 07:26 AM
I had some fizz on ice, a selection of beers and gins, and the Hibs whisky sitting waiting for an evening of celebrations... I then popped the fizz and had pretty much the exact same night I was going to have regardless.

They can crack on with their lives as they see fit and over the entirety of the season deserve to do so.

I saw a hibs player out walking his dog this morning, he seemed very happy with himself, ****ing raging I was , dont know what the ****ing dog was so happy about after yesterday 🤬

Sammy7nil
23-05-2021, 07:30 AM
I can’t get too annoyed or excited about this.

End of a Covid season when the have been unable socialise so going to an arranged night does not really bother me.

mcohibs
23-05-2021, 07:31 AM
Who's ****ing idea was it to have this night out on the same day as the final? Probably more arsed about how they were going to get steaming last night than thinking about winning a cup final. Shocker.

mcohibs
23-05-2021, 07:33 AM
I can’t get too annoyed or excited about this.

End of a Covid season when the have been unable socialise so going to an arranged night does not really bother me.

Its a terrible decision from the club to arrange it for the night of the final. Takes the focus off the game for players and opens them up to criticism if we lose and they're seen bevvying. I'd love to know who made that decision at the club

Northernhibee
23-05-2021, 07:36 AM
Who's ****ing idea was it to have this night out on the same day as the final? Probably more arsed about how they were going to get steaming last night than thinking about winning a cup final. Shocker.

If you’re genuinely angry about this it’s probably time for some self reflection as to why.

It’s fairly standard that on the Saturday of the end of the season to have some drinks. It’s a complete 100% non issue.

Fergos
23-05-2021, 07:36 AM
Classic case of not what you do but the way you do it.

For me there is not a lot wrong with the players and staff having and end of year get together. They have all worked hard, by and large…... But to be filmed popping corks after a surrendering like a bunch of fannies in a Cup Final is in very poor and disrespectful taste.

Iain G
23-05-2021, 07:37 AM
The end of season bash should’ve been booked for a different night.

Yeah Friday night may have worked out better for us 🤣

MWHIBBIES
23-05-2021, 07:38 AM
Extremely stupid to be filmed doing this.

Sir David Gray
23-05-2021, 08:12 AM
The other thing of note is where is this and does it not break with Covid rules re amount of people in a confined space and no social distancing. Also the fact Doidge seems to be celebrating, what the hell has he got to celebrate it's like a kick in the teethe to fans after yesterday's dire performance.

It's very likely to be in breach of Covid laws. There's at least 8 people in the room at the start of the video - the maximum number allowed indoors is 6.

For that alone it was stupid filming it and posting it online. I'd imagine Hibs will take a dim view of that considering the number of times that they pleaded with the fans to behave within the rules.

B.H.F.C
23-05-2021, 08:25 AM
Maybe they could use the big smiling image of Doidge as part of the season ticket marketing campaign. ER must be a right happy place.

He's here!
23-05-2021, 08:25 AM
On paper we've had one of our best seasons since the Tornadoes era. 3rd in the league, Scottish Cup final and League Cup semi-final. Most Hibs fans would have happily accepted that before the season started. It pretty much hits/exceeds the benchmark by which we measure what we think Hibs should regularly be capable of.

Had we, say, lost to Celtic in the League Cup semi and Rangers in yesterday's Scottish Cup final we wouldn't begrudge the players a night out and we'd regard this season as a very fine one. However, the spineless nature of the defeats to St Johnstone have instead made it feel like a disappointing season and that's why I think a lot of fans are angered by the pics of players 'celebrating'. Given how rarely we win a trophy, when you're presented with two massive opportunities against a club which finished well behind you in the league you really have to take them as they won't come around very often.

I'm guessing expectations within the club were high that we'd win yesterday, hence the night out. However, in my view it should have been scrapped. Yes, of course the players are entitled to have and end of season get together, but a more discreet gathering (perhaps rescheduled for this evening) would have been more appropriate bearing in mind how let down the fans feel after yesterday.

MunsterHibee
23-05-2021, 08:52 AM
On paper we've had one of our best seasons since the Tornadoes era. 3rd in the league, Scottish Cup final and League Cup semi-final. Most Hibs fans would have happily accepted that before the season started. It pretty much hits/exceeds the benchmark by which we measure what we think Hibs should regularly be capable of.

Had we, say, lost to Celtic in the League Cup semi and Rangers in yesterday's Scottish Cup final we wouldn't begrudge the players a night out and we'd regard this season as a very fine one. However, the spineless nature of the defeats to St Johnstone have instead made it feel like a disappointing season and that's why I think a lot of fans are angered by the pics of players 'celebrating'. Given how rarely we win a trophy, when you're presented with two massive opportunities against a club which finished well behind you in the league you really have to take them as they won't come around very often.

I'm guessing expectations within the club were high that we'd win yesterday, hence the night out. However, in my view it should have been scrapped. Yes, of course the players are entitled to have and end of season get together, but a more discreet gathering (perhaps rescheduled for this evening) would have been more appropriate bearing in mind how let down the fans feel after yesterday.Agree completely. They are fully entitled to an end of season few bevvies with eachother and to relax and enjoy themselves but the timing of the event was extremely poor. A few short hours after losing a cup final after a very poor performance was a disaster tbh. Why not have it next weekend???

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madhatter
23-05-2021, 08:53 AM
I can’t get too annoyed or excited about this.

End of a Covid season when the have been unable socialise so going to an arranged night does not really bother me.

Club must have one hell of a party organised for us then going by this logic. Fans that have paid for STs but been unable to attend the ground for a COVID season…

I spent months working in isolation unable to socialise. Pretty sure players and most of the staff at this party did plenty of socialising on the training pitch, gym and around the training centre while we were stuck in the house staring at a wall.

Sharing these videos and photos online shows a lack of respect for fans. No two ways about it. If we walked away from Hibs there would be no club and no jobs for these players especially during COVID. I mean Irvine didn’t have a club for months.

Bad taste having on night of final. Shocking sharing pictures and videos of it after losing final, especially during COVID season where fans have genuinely been locked up in their houses.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 08:55 AM
If you’re genuinely angry about this it’s probably time for some self reflection as to why.

It’s fairly standard that on the Saturday of the end of the season to have some drinks. It’s a complete 100% non issue.

You forgot COVID rules? Fairly standard for club to follow them or do they get leniency on that because it’s a end of season party? Somebody give Rangers a call and let them know…

oconnors_strip
23-05-2021, 08:56 AM
It's very likely to be in breach of Covid laws. There's at least 8 people in the room at the start of the video - the maximum number allowed indoors is 6.

For that alone it was stupid filming it and posting it online. I'd imagine Hibs will take a dim view of that considering the number of times that they pleaded with the fans to behave within the rules.

That’s my feelings of seeing videos etc. Yes all of them will have had a negative Covid test in the past 48 hours but they shouldn’t be inside in big groups.

Just another thing for the government and the media to pick up on and slate the club

Danderhall Hibs
23-05-2021, 11:22 AM
It's very likely to be in breach of Covid laws. There's at least 8 people in the room at the start of the video - the maximum number allowed indoors is 6.

For that alone it was stupid filming it and posting it online. I'd imagine Hibs will take a dim view of that considering the number of times that they pleaded with the fans to behave within the rules.

There’s more than 6 allowed in a pub? I think they were in the Marriott hotel - they must be allowed more than 6?

Danderhall Hibs
23-05-2021, 11:23 AM
I’m amazed at the poor planning here - fine if many think it’s fine to celebrate such monumental failure but they could have booked it for today or tomorrow rather than straight after they blew it.

truehibernian
23-05-2021, 11:27 AM
There’s more than 6 allowed in a pub? I think they were in the Marriott hotel - they must be allowed more than 6?

They were, players and families and staff, all in three 'bubbles' which was managed by the club. Nothing they did was non-compliant.

Players stayed at a different hotel night before the game too.

Sir David Gray
23-05-2021, 11:27 AM
There’s more than 6 allowed in a pub? I think they were in the Marriott hotel - they must be allowed more than 6?

6 people from no more than 3 households are allowed to meet indoors in a pub, restaurant or private home in a level 2 area.

Chuck Rhoades
23-05-2021, 11:28 AM
I'm going to assume this was arranged well in advance and had to be specifically organised in line with being Covid secure, making sure all the players could attend, and that the venue would be private and available.

It seems like some younger guys, not really involved in the final, have put up some Instagram stories. Being recorded doesn't mean they know it's being posted online does it? The fact that Doidge hasn't posted anything publicly himself suggests he's perfectly socially aware. People record video and take photos at parties, it was daft to publish them, but that's not down to the subjects of the photos. The guys who posted them have either seen sense or been told to delete them, but the screenshots now live on.

It's a toxic part of football because it's far too invasive and wouldn't exist in most other forms of work. It's a tabloid kind of perspective, and one we could do without. If players are out during the season, over drinking, embarrassing themselves - then fair enough, their commitment and professionalism comes into question. This isn't that though, it's an end of work party and it shouldn't be used as a stick to bash players who will doubtlessly be hurting too.

Whoosh. You are completely missing the point. Why was he celebrating!?

GreenCastle
23-05-2021, 11:29 AM
I don’t really get it.

I’m sure after Aberdeen they had a small celebration.

Next week is the awards night.

Last night of course if we win would have been a time to celebrate.

Not sure Hibs players social media policy or code of conduct but expect better especially from guys who aren’t even playing.

The sad reality is had they won they wouldn’t have to buy a drink in Edinburgh again but they missed that massive opportunity yesterday.

Personally didn’t feel like drinking or doing much last night after the game - doesn’t mean you have to sit and sulk but you would think a professional athlete would be more sensitive to those who help pay their wages and the mood of the fans who had to sit and watch that rubbish.

marinello59
23-05-2021, 11:44 AM
Whoosh. You are completely missing the point. Why was he celebrating!?

I had a few.... ok a lot of drinks..... after the game yesterday. I was even laughing and joking with people. I certainly wasn’t celebrating anything though.
It does help to ramp up the anger against one of our players by suggesting he was celebrating our defeat. I can’t even begin to take that idea seriously.

wookie70
23-05-2021, 11:59 AM
Not a great look but they are essentially having a drink on their equivalent of Trades or Fair Friday. Generally the players have been very good this year. It hasn't always went their way but I couldn't really fault them for their efforts. Yesterday I would probably blame the manager more than the players as he set us up and the players weren't getting any success due to the formation but they did capitulate and give in far too easily.

I'm not really a drinker these days but there is no way I would have went out after that performance. It sucked the life out of me as a supporter but maybe there is a generational thing. When I was in my 20s very little would stop me going out and getting beat at fitba on a Saturday or Sunday just meant the first couple of pints were a bit harder to swallow. No issue after that.

flash
23-05-2021, 12:04 PM
I had a few.... ok a lot of drinks..... after the game yesterday. I was even laughing and joking with people. I certainly wasn’t celebrating anything though.
It does help to ramp up the anger against one of our players by suggesting he was celebrating our defeat. I can’t even begin to take that idea seriously.

Me too. We had a few pints and a good laugh. Doesn't mean I wasn't raging about the performance yesterday.

silverhibee
23-05-2021, 12:29 PM
Do it midweek when the dust has settled - it’s not difficult to work out how this would play out.

Most will be away on holidays on Monday.

Vault Boy
23-05-2021, 12:33 PM
Whoosh. You are completely missing the point. Why was he celebrating!?

No, I haven't. I've made my perspective quite clear. He was socialising at a work party, same as anybody else.

Pretty Boy
23-05-2021, 12:35 PM
Me too. We had a few pints and a good laugh. Doesn't mean I wasn't raging about the performance yesterday.

I was in the same club. TV went off, sank a fair few cans, think some shots made an appearance and rounded off the night with too much gin.

I've hardly had a drink all year, it was the 1st time I had seen most of the people I watched the game with since well before Christmas and the 1st proper get together we have had in over a year so I was going to make the most of it. I had a cracking evening, doesn't mean I was celebrating or happy about the performance or result but I'm not sure what going home and sitting sobbing would have achieved.

ehf
23-05-2021, 12:36 PM
Hope they woke up today with bad hangovers, looked at their LOSERS medals and had some inkling of how badly they let themselves down yesterday.

hibsbollah
23-05-2021, 12:36 PM
Whoosh. You are completely missing the point. Why was he celebrating!?

Some folk just like champagne. I don’t mind it myself. It doesn’t necessarily mean he was happy.

Is It On....
23-05-2021, 01:15 PM
I seem to remember Garry O'Connor threw his medal away in 2012. Pretty sure he didn't go out and have Champagne when he got back to Edinburgh. Yesterday was such a poor performance I haven't even had the usual wind-up texts from the other lot..because the manner of defeat was so bad they didn't need to.

Heisenberg
23-05-2021, 01:18 PM
Some of the abuse I’ve seen aimed at Doidge on social media has been horrific. Most definitely not the best decision to be out and celebrating in the way he was but he doesn’t deserve what he’s been getting from some.

BoomtownHibees
23-05-2021, 01:19 PM
I seem to remember Garry O'Connor threw his medal away in 2012. Pretty sure he didn't go out and have Champagne when he got back to Edinburgh. Yesterday was such a poor performance I haven't even had the usual wind-up texts from the other lot..because the manner of defeat was so bad they didn't need to.

You don’t remember the photos of O’Connor being out after that game?

Is It On....
23-05-2021, 01:19 PM
You don’t remember the photos of O’Connor being out after that game?

Try not to 😬

Danderhall Hibs
23-05-2021, 01:25 PM
Most will be away on holidays on Monday.

So they’ll not be at the player of the year do then?

MWHIBBIES
23-05-2021, 01:28 PM
I seem to remember Garry O'Connor threw his medal away in 2012. Pretty sure he didn't go out and have Champagne when he got back to Edinburgh. Yesterday was such a poor performance I haven't even had the usual wind-up texts from the other lot..because the manner of defeat was so bad they didn't need to.

O'Connor is probably the worst example possible. At least this lot were in decent physical shape for the final. O'Connor was a disgrace that day.

Pretty Boy
23-05-2021, 01:40 PM
O'Connor is probably the worst example possible. At least this lot were in decent physical shape for the final. O'Connor was a disgrace that day.

And he was having a good old laugh and joke not long after the game as well. Matt Doherty took a fair bit of the heat off a couple of our own that weekend.

May21/05/16
23-05-2021, 01:48 PM
I had a drink before and after the game I'm sure most fans did as well and now they're angry at players having a drink after the game hypocrisy

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Scottie
23-05-2021, 01:50 PM
Most will be away on holidays on Monday.
Hopefully they stay away on holiday after yesterdays performance.

JohnM1875
23-05-2021, 01:53 PM
I had a drink before and after the game I'm sure most fans did as well and now they're angry at players having a drink after the game hypocrisy

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Aye. That's exactly the same thing.

Hermit Crab
23-05-2021, 01:55 PM
Seen more of Doidge in that video than we did on the park yesterday. GTF

madhatter
23-05-2021, 02:01 PM
I had a drink before and after the game I'm sure most fans did as well and now they're angry at players having a drink after the game hypocrisy

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I didn't drink and I'm angry, so I guess that isn't hypocrisy. Irony is I sat at home and watched the club I love fail again which hurts me while players, even those injured or recovering from long-term injuries, have a wee party before the player awards party the following week...

I should be upset because my club have failed.

They should be upset because they let their teammates down, their manager down, their coaching staff down, the club down and the supporters down. They should be raging that they let themselves down the most - many of those players will likely never reach that stage again. Scottish drinking culture is probably partly at fault but our failing as a country maybe shows a problem with drink and lack of application.

How many players actually get significantly better at Hibs?

Heckys Wheel
23-05-2021, 02:02 PM
Seen more of Doidge in that video than we did on the park yesterday. GTF

Here he is.

Swedish hibee
23-05-2021, 02:03 PM
Some of the abuse he's getting online is awful. We are all hurting, but think before you post people please.

leith lynx
23-05-2021, 02:04 PM
Classic case of not what you do but the way you do it.

For me there is not a lot wrong with the players and staff having and end of year get together. They have all worked hard, by and large…... But to be filmed popping corks after a surrendering like a bunch of fannies in a Cup Final is in very poor and disrespectful taste.

100% agree, stuff like this will not help season ticket sales, these players simply don't care, end off.

May21/05/16
23-05-2021, 02:09 PM
I didn't drink and I'm angry, so I guess that isn't hypocrisy. Irony is I sat at home and watched the club I love fail again which hurts me while players, even those injured or recovering from long-term injuries, have a wee party before the player awards party the following week...

I should be upset because my club have failed.

They should be upset because they let their teammates down, their manager down, their coaching staff down, the club down and the supporters down. They should be raging that they let themselves down the most - many of those players will likely never reach that stage again. Scottish drinking culture is probably partly at fault but our failing as a country maybe shows a problem with drink and lack of application.

How many players actually get significantly better at Hibs?I agree that Scotland has drinking problem but for people to castigate players for having a drink after the game it's no for me the players and the rest of the population have been in the midst of this horrible pandemic I think players deserve great applause for getting through the season

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hibee1875
23-05-2021, 02:10 PM
We’re fans, they’re players. There’s no doubt there will be some hurt and disappointed amongst them but it’s not going to be on the same level as the fans.

Their employer is putting on an end of season bash with an open bar no doubt, of course they’re going to go and make the most of it.

Hermit Crab
23-05-2021, 02:14 PM
We’re fans, they’re players. There’s no doubt there will be some hurt and disappointed amongst them but it’s not going to be on the same level as the fans.

Their employer is putting on an end of season bash with an open bar no doubt, of course they’re going to go and make the most of it.


Which they've just let down badly and cost them millions in revenue in missing out on Europa league. Not only that, we will still get the rallying call from the club to buy season tickets and back the club when the club have just bottled 2 semis and a cup final. Same old Hibs eh.

Joe6-2
23-05-2021, 02:17 PM
Didn’t think I could be any angrier!

loanheadhibby
23-05-2021, 02:20 PM
I genuinely can't understand what some of your expectations are. These are just people, human beings, they've had a long year of work and they're entitled to continue to live their lives normally despite the result. This is probably the first time since Christmas many of them have had any real opportunity to let loose and socialise a wee bit. It's alright for all us fans to have drinks on cup final night though, isn't it, god forbid any of the players do the same.

This video wasn't posted by Christian. He's not trying to advertise it or spit in anyone's face. He's ended up on someone else's Instagram story, entirely out of his own control, and is now going to be slaughtered for it. What absolute nonsense, I genuinely despair at some of the things fans get annoyed at. Be annoyed by the result, the performances, the tactical choices, whatever - but leave their personal lives out of it ffs.
Sorry about your despair but If you think that's a good look after performing like that in a cup final.Deary me.

Robbo6-2
23-05-2021, 02:23 PM
How anyone can defend the video after that performance needs to have a serious look at themselves.

Total disregard to the fans who have dug deep to pay these ********s wages.

Disgraceful.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 02:25 PM
I agree that Scotland has drinking problem but for people to castigate players for having a drink after the game it's no for me the players and the rest of the population have been in the midst of this horrible pandemic I think players deserve great applause for getting through the season

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When do fans get an applause for getting through lockdown and giving ST and HSL money to the club? Fans have had to sacrifice a lot during Covid. Oh that's right, forgot we shouldn't expect that as fans as we are supporters whereas employees of the club who are paid to do a job should be applauded.

Queue ready-made "Thank You" sign again. Bit of banter for them the last time they stood for the picture.

They are having another party next week...

People have lost their jobs. Been trapped in their houses during Covid. Applauding football players for getting through a season where they've still managed to see their mates on the training pitch pretty much throughout is so far down my list.

MWHIBBIES
23-05-2021, 02:25 PM
Seen more of Doidge in that video than we did on the park yesterday. GTF

''well never finish 3rd with Doidge''

''Aberdeen would never play a striker like Doidge''

Doidge scores the winner, against Aberdeen, to secure 3rd. Not a peep from you.

heretoday
23-05-2021, 02:28 PM
I'm prepared to forgive now. Let's face it - Hibs have always done this to us over the years, and in my case that's almost sixty. They did come third in the league after all so well done them.

Having a booze-up just at this particular time does seem a trifle insensitive, however.

It ranks alongside the pre-planned decision to parade the CIS Cup round Easter Road after a league derby - which Hearts proceeded to win. They needed no greater incentive.

leith lynx
23-05-2021, 02:29 PM
How anyone can defend the video after that performance needs to have a serious look at themselves.

Total disregard to the fans who have dug deep to pay these ********s wages.

Disgraceful.
Well said.

Box 17
23-05-2021, 02:30 PM
Absolutely crass decision for the team to go out 'celebrating' after that display yesterday. Did they seriously think in this day and age with social media that this wouldn't get out? More likely they had no self awareness and didn't care if it did.

And what about Jack Ross, was he there and did he think it was a good idea for the champagne corks to be popping?

May21/05/16
23-05-2021, 02:35 PM
When do fans get an applause for getting through lockdown and giving ST and HSL money to the club? Fans have had to sacrifice a lot during Covid. Oh that's right, forgot we shouldn't expect that as fans as we are supporters whereas employees of the club who are paid to do a job should be applauded.

Queue ready-made "Thank You" sign again. Bit of banter for them the last time they stood for the picture.

They are having another party next week...

People have lost their jobs. Been trapped in their houses during Covid. Applauding football players for getting through a season where they've still managed to see their mates on the training pitch pretty much throughout is so far down my list.Players deserve criticism for the performance on the park but not off the park I guess my opinion just differs from yours but you crack on with your criticism if the players read this I'm glad that they will see different opinions debate is good as long as its not personal have peacefully Sunday

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Andy74
23-05-2021, 02:38 PM
Seen more of Doidge in that video than we did on the park yesterday. GTF

Think it’s about 5 months since you’ve had a reason to sign on and post something negative about Doidge.

BILLYHIBS
23-05-2021, 03:02 PM
Took my champagne out the fridge back in the wine rack and straight to bed

PolmontHibby
23-05-2021, 03:07 PM
Rightly or wrongly work life cannot now be totally separated from personal life, especially for high profile roles such as in football.
I am by no means in such a high profile role, but if I had performed as badly at work as they did yesterday (potentially costing my employer a few £m) and was seen in such a video/photo by bosses it would not end well.

And if it was a get together arranged by the club as some appear to be saying it was a seriously wrong call.......though pretty decent of the Scottish Government to allow an employer such a gathering of players/family/non essential staff - I must have missed that exemption on Scotgov and SFA guidance on COVID (we apparently could not get a full bench yesterday due to bubble restrictions on youth players...but someone thinks it fine they go to the event at night?).

Robbo6-2
23-05-2021, 03:13 PM
Anyone know who would sanction this from the club?

Serious question, Our owner isnt in the country and we have no Cheif Executive?

Who makes these types of decisions now? Who authorises the appointment of Liam Fox?

madhatter
23-05-2021, 03:15 PM
Anyone know who would sanction this from the club?

Serious question, Our owner isnt in the country and we have no Cheif Executive?

Who makes these types of decisions now? Who authorises the appointment of Liam Fox?

I would guess Mathie on the Liam Fox question. No idea beyond that.

MWHIBBIES
23-05-2021, 03:20 PM
Anyone know who would sanction this from the club?

Serious question, Our owner isnt in the country and we have no Cheif Executive?

Who makes these types of decisions now? Who authorises the appointment of Liam Fox?

Ron Gordon probably has a phone.

Onion
23-05-2021, 03:31 PM
Optics are horrible. Result and performance was not enough punishment, the fans have to be subjected to this ?

marinello59
23-05-2021, 03:34 PM
Optics are horrible. Result and performance was not enough punishment, the fans have to be subjected to this ?

Subjected to it? :faf:

CMurdoch
23-05-2021, 03:39 PM
The football season finished after yesterday's loss.
Nothing could change the result or the season which was all I was bothered about. Staff party or no party, the crap result remained the same so nothing to gain by cancelling it or indeed anger at the players for attending.
I didn't want to read about Hibs post match yesterday so just now checking out the meltdown and anger on here.

Naive for attendees at the party to put footage on social media in the circumstances and that is a lesson to be learned. The players have been disciplined at all times off the pitch for a long time and unlike others no Hibs player broke the covid regs during the season which would have been a real let down of the supporters who were following them and a real public embarrassment. The post season party was otherwise fall out free and nothing will change yesterday's result so best forget the party.

Vault Boy
23-05-2021, 03:51 PM
Sorry about your despair but If you think that's a good look after performing like that in a cup final.Deary me.

Then don't look, you don't have to.

Risboro Hibby
23-05-2021, 04:10 PM
For goodness sake please some people take a reality check.

Nearly sixty years now of following Hibs and was I disappointed at the result and performance. You bet I was. Did I let it ruin the rest of my day. No way First time I had seen and been out for a pint with my best mate since November.

End of a long tough season for the players and a party arranged for them to enjoy. If we had won everyone would be saying what a great night they all had. They didn’t so what were they to do . Not go! How ungrateful would that be. They will today be going their separate ways for close season and in all Likliehood a good few of them won’t see each other again. So let them have a few drinks to unwind and say their goodbyes without us judging them.

How many of us if we have a bad day at work ,decide then not to go if we have a night out planned? Not many I would guess.

Since452
23-05-2021, 04:11 PM
For goodness sake please some people take a reality check.

Nearly sixty years now of following Hibs and was I disappointed at the result and performance. You bet I was. Did I let it ruin the rest of my day. No way First time I had seen and been out for a pint with my best mate since November.

End of a long tough season for the players and a party arranged for them to enjoy. If we had won everyone would be saying what a great night they all had. They didn’t so what were they to do . Not go! How ungrateful would that be. They will today be going their separate ways for close season and in all Likliehood a good few of them won’t see each other again. So let them have a few drinks to unwind and say their goodbyes without us judging them.

How many of us if we have a bad day at work ,decide then not to go if we have a night out planned? Not many I would guess.

Well said.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 04:18 PM
For goodness sake please some people take a reality check.

Nearly sixty years now of following Hibs and was I disappointed at the result and performance. You bet I was. Did I let it ruin the rest of my day. No way First time I had seen and been out for a pint with my best mate since November.

End of a long tough season for the players and a party arranged for them to enjoy. If we had won everyone would be saying what a great night they all had. They didn’t so what were they to do . Not go! How ungrateful would that be. They will today be going their separate ways for close season and in all Likliehood a good few of them won’t see each other again. So let them have a few drinks to unwind and say their goodbyes without us judging them.

How many of us if we have a bad day at work ,decide then not to go if we have a night out planned? Not many I would guess.


The reality is they have another party next weekend.

Also I wouldn’t go out for a night out if I’ve had an awful day at work.

Ungrateful? I don’t understand that…

Sioux
23-05-2021, 04:24 PM
The reality is they have another party next weekend.

Also I wouldn’t go out for a night out if I’ve had an awful day at work.

Ungrateful? I don’t understand that…

:faf:

Grow the F up!

madhatter
23-05-2021, 04:25 PM
:faf:

Grow the F up!

Eh? Is my comment immature?

Viva_Palmeiras
23-05-2021, 04:33 PM
Does anyone know the context?

Without that on what basis are we to judge?

Suppose Doidge had been voter players team player of the year and given him a bottle?
Maybe unlikely but what if that were the case?

Each to their own but like others I’ve quit the FB group that posted that. It’s one thing an individual posting that, another when it’s a forum IMO. If they want to curry favour and obtain followers through sensationalist stuff the Tabloids would be proud of then they’re not for me.

Sioux
23-05-2021, 04:48 PM
Eh? Is my comment immature?

Ok I'll change it to pathetic.

But you'll still continue to compete in the Angriest Man World Championship.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 04:51 PM
Ok I'll change it to pathetic.

But you'll still continue to compete in the Angriest Man World Championship.

It’s pathetic that I don’t go for a drink after a bad day at work?

Continue with the personal digs. Great contribution.

Sioux
23-05-2021, 05:08 PM
It’s pathetic that I don’t go for a drink after a bad day at work?

Continue with the personal digs. Great contribution.

Chill out my friend. Life is what you make of it. As far as football is concerned, there are winners and losers. There ain't no guarantees. 100% of football supporters will see their team losing at some point.

Losing a member of your close family is a lot worse.

Yorkshire HFC
23-05-2021, 05:17 PM
Well said.

I doubt footballers care much about what fans think of them - why would they? Fans are so fickle that even if they praise a player on one day, they will slate them the next. Everyone on this website was saying how great they were on Saturday morning - and a couple of hours later, it appears that they're all rubbish.

They're doing a job - ofcourse they were going to have a night out last night - that's what people in their 20s do - so I'm told.

Footballers don't owe fans anything - all they can do is go out and play as best they can. I'm pretty sure they didn't try and lose yesterday.

madhatter
23-05-2021, 05:23 PM
Chill out my friend. Life is what you make of it. As far as football is concerned, there are winners and losers. There ain't no guarantees. 100% of football supporters will see their team losing at some point.

Losing a member of your close family is a lot worse.

Unsure what that’s got to do with telling me to grow up and calling my comment pathetic because I said I wouldn’t go out for a drink after a bad day at work. I was simply saying that as a fact. Granted I may be different in that regard, especially in a country with drinking problems but nevertheless it was true.

What I’m seeing is you critiquing my critique of players behaviour. Haven’t seen myself call any of the players pathetic or tell them to grow up. Maybe I have but don’t recall that.

Really funny how people tell fellow fans to essentially F off for critiquing the players and the club. So much so that they’ve, hopefully, jokingly tell them to stop coming to ER. Really genuinely getting closer to not buying a ST, especially after a hard COVID year and the “debate” on here doesn’t encourage me tbh. Call it pathetic but I could put that money somewhere else in my life.

Anyway, I’m done.

Sioux
23-05-2021, 05:51 PM
Unsure what that’s got to do with telling me to grow up and calling my comment pathetic because I said I wouldn’t go out for a drink after a bad day at work. I was simply saying that as a fact. Granted I may be different in that regard, especially in a country with drinking problems but nevertheless it was true.

What I’m seeing is you critiquing my critique of players behaviour. Haven’t seen myself call any of the players pathetic or tell them to grow up. Maybe I have but don’t recall that.

Really funny how people tell fellow fans to essentially F off for critiquing the players and the club. So much so that they’ve, hopefully, jokingly tell them to stop coming to ER. Really genuinely getting closer to not buying a ST, especially after a hard COVID year and the “debate” on here doesn’t encourage me tbh. Call it pathetic but I could put that money somewhere else in my life.

Anyway, I’m done.

Me too.

kaimendhibs
23-05-2021, 06:15 PM
Cant defend those players. We just got gubbed again in a major final. I bet there wouldnt be anyone defending them if we had lost to.Hearts yesterday 🤬

truehibernian
23-05-2021, 06:22 PM
Cant defend those players. We just got gubbed again in a major final. I bet there wouldnt be anyone defending them if we had lost to.Hearts yesterday 🤬

The function was planned by the club, players families and children all there, win or lose a chance to commiserate and say goodbye to players who are off next season (Rocky for example).

Hard season for a variety of reasons, I don't begrudge the event per se, I can only speak for how I would feel and I'd be having a couple and getting a taxi home after a game like that. Mind, I'm a very sore loser. I certainly wouldn't be popping champagne that's for sure.

ABZHFC
23-05-2021, 06:23 PM
We sorely lack the leadership characters that was present in the 2015-16 squad, that’s all I’ll say.

Fair enough if they go out and it’s pre-arranged but the idea of some posting it on their social media? Do me a favour

dp00
23-05-2021, 06:45 PM
Are we really getting that annoyed by this ? These players have prob not been able to see there mates, families for the last year given there was loads of strick protocols with Covid and bubbles to enable them to play football .. and by all accounts they have stuck to it given we didn’t really have any Covid cases.

How many fans went and got drunk last night ? They have just finished a tough year , finished 3rd. Granted the final was rubbish but they still deserve to have a blow out and say buy to the players leaving. The majority them are prob going to be back training and in that bubble again in a few weeks


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Since90+2
23-05-2021, 06:47 PM
I honestly couldn't care less what they done after the game, it was the game that mattered. Whatever they decide to do afterwards is immaterial.

kaimendhibs
23-05-2021, 07:05 PM
The function was planned by the club, players families and children all there, win or lose a chance to commiserate and say goodbye to players who are off next season (Rocky for example).

Hard season for a variety of reasons, I don't begrudge the event per se, I can only speak for how I would feel and I'd be having a couple and getting a taxi home after a game like that. Mind, I'm a very sore loser. I certainly wouldn't be popping champagne that's for sure.
Bolinger champagne ffs. A wee bit decorum. I know what you are saying pal but thats not for me

truehibernian
23-05-2021, 07:13 PM
Bolinger champagne ffs. A wee bit decorum. I know what you are saying pal but thats not for me

I agree with you - just saying that their families and kids had stayed there the previous evening and the event was planned. It's only my opinion (and nature) but I would want to be home asap and close the curtains and switch the telly and phone off. I'd certainly not be shaking any champagne bottles around after yesterday. I'd (personally) feel embarrassed.

MWHIBBIES
23-05-2021, 07:21 PM
It’s pathetic that I don’t go for a drink after a bad day at work?

Continue with the personal digs. Great contribution.

Say you had a night out booked, all your friends, hadn't seen them all together for a beer in a while.

But you had a stinker at work. Cut a 100m cable run too short, lost a client, messed up a big deadline, addressed something to the wrong place, broke something etc? Would you really cancel it all?

I could understand if something really major had happened, like an NHS worker losing a patient, but in the grand scheme of things, it really was just a football match.

I wont be on my deathbed thinking about my bad days at work, I'll be thinking about great memories with friends and family.

I think the mistake of the players was filming it. Whoever did so should be in trouble, but the party is whatever.

Robbo6-2
23-05-2021, 07:40 PM
Say you had a night out booked, all your friends, hadn't seen them all together for a beer in a while.

But you had a stinker at work. Cut a 100m cable run too short, lost a client, messed up a big deadline, addressed something to the wrong place, broke something etc? Would you really cancel it all?

I could understand if something really major had happened, like an NHS worker losing a patient, but in the grand scheme of things, it really was just a football match.

I wont be on my deathbed thinking about my bad days at work, I'll be thinking about great memories with friends and family.

I think the mistake of the players was filming it. Whoever did so should be in trouble, but the party is whatever.

What a load of drivel.

You cant compare an Electrician to a footballer.

It wasnt just a standard game, we just lost a major cup final to ******g St Johnstone without laying a glove on them.

They should of all went home not popping champagne and letting someone film you do it.

JimBHibees
23-05-2021, 07:49 PM
In the grand scheme of things not a huge deal. Players are allowed some down time too. Wouldn't be happy my mate posting it in the circumstances. No need for the outrage.

hibsbollah
23-05-2021, 08:01 PM
Bolinger champagne ffs. A wee bit decorum. I know what you are saying pal but thats not for me

You have a point. Krug or a nice Perrier-Jouet everytime.

The dalmeny
23-05-2021, 08:27 PM
What a load of drivel.

You cant compare an Electrician to a footballer.

It wasnt just a standard game, we just lost a major cup final to ******g St Johnstone without laying a glove on them.

They should of all went home not popping champagne and letting someone film you do it.

this is what a lot of supporters don’t get. Being a footballer is just a job. The players are here because this is the ‘best offer’ they’ve had. They’d be off in a second if they got a better offer and the club agreed.

as for ‘letting someone film’ it, what he supposed to do, if he even saw it being filmed ?

tynesideirish
23-05-2021, 09:02 PM
this is what a lot of supporters don’t get. Being a footballer is just a job. The players are here because this is the ‘best offer’ they’ve had. They’d be off in a second if they got a better offer and the club agreed.

This is it. As much as we all love this club it'll never be matched by the players. Very few get to play for the club they support. People can bestow fictional Knighthoods on players for breaking a 115 year curse etc, but all the badge kissing in the world does not take away from the fact that they are employees. I don't think, professionally they don't care. You do see players lying on the pitch greeting at most finals. They don't spend a career at one club anymore.
Them videoing the partying seems like their rubbing our faces in it. Am I surprised? No. A good manager would have placed a social media ban on it, but then a good manager would have competed and we'd all be happy along with them.

Peevemor
23-05-2021, 09:12 PM
This is it. As much as we all love this club it'll never be matched by the players. Very few get to play for the club they support. People can bestow fictional Knighthoods on players for breaking a 115 year curse etc, but all the badge kissing in the world does not take away from the fact that they are employees. I don't think, professionally they don't care. You do see players lying on the pitch greeting at most finals. They don't spend a career at one club anymore.
Them videoing the partying seems like their rubbing our faces in it. Am I surprised? No. A good manager would have placed a social media ban on it, but then a good manager would have competed and we'd all be happy along with them.So it's Jack Ross's fault? It gets worse!

tynesideirish
23-05-2021, 09:41 PM
I don't want JR out. I think we'd struggle to get better. However yes he's in charge. The poor game was down to him, the poor subbing was his fault and the lack of media control at the do was his fault. Alex Ferguson wouldn't have let one of his losing teams post anything would he?

Tommy75
23-05-2021, 11:01 PM
this is what a lot of supporters don’t get. Being a footballer is just a job. The players are here because this is the ‘best offer’ they’ve had. They’d be off in a second if they got a better offer and the club agreed.

as for ‘letting someone film’ it, what he supposed to do, if he even saw it being filmed ?

If football is 'just a job' why hasn't it been shut down entirely during the whole pandemic? Surely if it is just a job then, by all definitions, it is non-essential. I'd like to think the players see it more than just a job and take some pride in their profession.

I don't have an issue with the players attending a pre-planned function. I take issue with what appears to be a jubilant, celebratory atmosphere. These guys just let down thousands of people who have been ploughing their hard earned money in to the club during the pandemic with a joke of a performance. They could at least give off the impression like they care.

On a separate note, is it really impossible for folk to go out now without taking photos/videos every 5 minutes. Does my head in!

Thegreenside
23-05-2021, 11:08 PM
What are they celebrating? Just nabbing 3rd? The team that finished 4th never even scored a goal for 9 games on the trot! Spineless. performance yesterday. Should be ashamed not out celebrating

matty_f
23-05-2021, 11:11 PM
What are they celebrating? Just nabbing 3rd? The team that finished 4th never even scored a goal for 9 games on the trot! Spineless. performance yesterday. Should be ashamed not out celebrating

Don’t think they were celebrating anything.

AFAIK, it was an event planned for players and staff as an end of season event. It’s just folk on here etc that have turned it into a celebration, because that means they can get all indignant to a level that they couldn’t if it was just a function for the team.

snedzuk
24-05-2021, 12:50 AM
You have a point. Krug or a nice Perrier-Jouet everytime.

Ah Hibsbollah - I see your season ticket is in the west lower.

The dalmeny
24-05-2021, 06:41 AM
If football is 'just a job' why hasn't it been shut down entirely during the whole pandemic? Surely if it is just a job then, by all definitions, it is non-essential. I'd like to think the players see it more than just a job and take some pride in their profession.

I don't have an issue with the players attending a pre-planned function. I take issue with what appears to be a jubilant, celebratory atmosphere. These guys just let down thousands of people who have been ploughing their hard earned money in to the club during the pandemic with a joke of a performance. They could at least give off the impression like they care.

On a separate note, is it really impossible for folk to go out now without taking photos/videos every 5 minutes. Does my head in!

covid has nothing to do with this. This discussion would be going on if the same things had happened in a non Covid situation.

I think (the majority) players do take pride in their profession but it is their job, it’s not a supporters job it’s an emotional tie. Don’t get me wrong there are exceptions and some players have that emotional input but I’m not convinced its the majority , I think the ‘kissing the badge’ analogy was well put above.

I bet this happened all the time in the past. The difference is it was filmed, everything is filmed now, just see the clip of that girl and the bouncer in brum that’s doing the circuit today.

These are professional sportsmen. A mindset coach would be saying not to beat yourself up as you can’t change what’s happened, it’s learning from it and what they do next is important and that would include learning from having a post match ‘party’ too.

MWHIBBIES
24-05-2021, 07:21 AM
What a load of drivel.

You cant compare an Electrician to a footballer.

It wasnt just a standard game, we just lost a major cup final to ******g St Johnstone without laying a glove on them.

They should of all went home not popping champagne and letting someone film you do it.

I agree. If a footballer messed up, he'd lose a game. If an electrician messed up, he could burn a house down. One is a lot more important than the other.

We all love football, we all want Hibs to win, but its literally just a sport for entertainment. Thats all.

hibsbollah
24-05-2021, 07:35 AM
I agree. If a footballer messed up, he'd lose a game. If an electrician messed up, he could burn a house down. One is a lot more important than the other.

We all love football, we all want Hibs to win, but its literally just a sport for entertainment. Thats all.

We could have a sliding scale of dangerous professions and an algorithm to work out how important each one is. Gardener? If he messed up he could put his spade through fibre optic cable and cost you £thousands. Painter and Decorator? If a footballer hit the ball hard enough into a bairns coupon i suppose it could kill him as well :dunno:

There’s not enough threads like this.

Yorkshire HFC
24-05-2021, 08:00 AM
We could have a sliding scale of dangerous professions and an algorithm to work out how important each one is. Gardener? If he messed up he could put his spade through fibre optic cable and cost you £thousands. Painter and Decorator? If a footballer hit the ball hard enough into a bairns coupon i suppose it could kill him as well :dunno:

There’s not enough threads like this.

Football fan - wake up and decide what his team has done that is "totally unacceptable" - be angry all day. Repeat.

The dalmeny
24-05-2021, 08:18 AM
Football fan - wake up and decide what his team has done that is "totally unacceptable" - be angry all day. Repeat.

Wait till the new strip's out :greengrin

hibsbollah
24-05-2021, 08:18 AM
Football fan - wake up and decide what his team has done that is "totally unacceptable" - be angry all day. Repeat.

Definitely the most dangerous profession. High blood pressure is a killer :tsk tsk:

MWHIBBIES
24-05-2021, 08:25 AM
We could have a sliding scale of dangerous professions and an algorithm to work out how important each one is. Gardener? If he messed up he could put his spade through fibre optic cable and cost you £thousands. Painter and Decorator? If a footballer hit the ball hard enough into a bairns coupon i suppose it could kill him as well :dunno:

There’s not enough threads like this.

Indeed. You'd hate to ruin someones flower bed then go out celebrating after.

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 08:43 AM
Don’t think they were celebrating anything.

AFAIK, it was an event planned for players and staff as an end of season event. It’s just folk on here etc that have turned it into a celebration, because that means they can get all indignant to a level that they couldn’t if it was just a function for the team.

Popping a bottle of champagne usually suggests there’s a cause for celebration

StockholmHibs
24-05-2021, 08:46 AM
This thread is Bonkers man. I don't give a monkeys what they do off the pitch.
Done is done, they blew it again! All this show some respect nonsense. It's a game of fitba ffs. Some folks want blood.

hibsbollah
24-05-2021, 08:46 AM
Popping a bottle of champagne usually suggests there’s a cause for celebration

Maybe he’s a Champagne socialist?

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 08:48 AM
Maybe he’s a Champagne socialist?

Maybe he’s just not as bothered as the fans thought he would’ve been

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 08:49 AM
Popping a bottle of champagne usually suggests there’s a cause for celebrationMaybe for Josh Doig's birthday which he wouldn't have been able to celebrate last week.

There could be loads of reasons.

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 08:49 AM
Maybe for Josh Doig's birthday which he wouldn't have been able to celebrate last week.

There could be loads of reasons.

I don’t give a **** to be honest, to do it on the night of a cup final defeat isn’t a great look. Read the room.

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 08:49 AM
Maybe he’s just not as bothered as the fans thought he would’ve beenAre you honestly suggesting that Doidge is a player who's "not bothered"?

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 08:50 AM
I don’t give a **** to be honest, to do it on the night of a cup final defeat isn’t a great look. Read the room.Were you in the room? Calm down.

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 08:50 AM
Are you honestly suggesting that Doidge is a player who's "not bothered"?

He’s probably bothered I’m merely suggesting that he might not be as bothered as the fans would like him to be

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 08:51 AM
Were you in the room? Calm down.

I’m perfectly calm, just giving my opinion on it. As you like to do.

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 08:56 AM
He’s probably bothered I’m merely suggesting that he might not be as bothered as the fans would like him to beOn Saturday night his face would have been tripping him every bit as much as he would have been smiling with a bottle of champagne in his hand. Those moments don't make for interesting publications on social media though.

Brightside
24-05-2021, 08:56 AM
We cracked open the champagne about an hour after the game. We were all angry, fed up following that performance but you have to move on. We celebrated what has been a very good season and then drank far too much and paid the penalty the next day. it would have ben amazing to get the silver wear we could have but its done now. The squad will change over the next couple of months and I'll be desperate to watch the first friendly no matter the disappointment of Saturday. :flag:

hibee92
24-05-2021, 08:57 AM
Were you in the room? Calm down.

No opinions allowed unless you’re present. Christ.

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 08:58 AM
On Saturday night his face would have been tripping him every bit as much as he would have been smiling with a bottle of champagne in his hand. Those moments don't make for interesting publications on social media though.

How do you know, were you in the room?

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 09:01 AM
How do you know, were you in the room?I've been involved in top level competion for 35 years. I know exactly how it works.

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 09:03 AM
No opinions allowed unless you’re present. Christ.Opinions are fine. Having a pop at one of our hardest working and most honest players for no good reason bothers me.

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 09:04 AM
I've been involved in top level competion for 35 years. I know exactly how it works.

Ah right, yes, of course you do.

All other opinions on the matter are now invalid because you know exactly how it works

Do you ever listen to yourself sometimes? Baffling.

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 09:04 AM
Opinions are fine. Having a pop at one of our hardest working and most honest players for no good reason bothers me.

For no good reason is your opinion

Plenty posters on this thread think there’s a perfectly good reason for it

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 09:10 AM
For no good reason is your opinion

Plenty posters on this thread think there’s a perfectly good reason for itAnd I think they're wrong.

If folk want to comment on how he played on Saturday afternoon then fine. A gratuitous dig for winding down in private, on his last day before the holidays and after a high pressure match and end to the season - sorry that doesn't wear with me. Especially given the player involved.

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 09:12 AM
Ah right, yes, of course you do.

All other opinions on the matter are now invalid because you know exactly how it works

Do you ever listen to yourself sometimes? Baffling.I think I'm pretty consistent. It's only baffling if you're not interested in understanding.

Stuart93
24-05-2021, 09:18 AM
I think I'm pretty consistent. It's only baffling if you're not interested in understanding.

It’s baffling that you don’t understand your opinion isn’t always correct and that everyone who’s opinion is on the negative side isn’t always incorrect.

But it’d be easier discussing that with a brick wall. Have a good day sir.

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 09:19 AM
It’s baffling that you don’t understand your opinion isn’t always correct and that everyone who’s opinion is on the negative side isn’t always incorrect.

But it’d be easier discussing that with a brick wall. Have a good day sir.Pots and kettles spring to mind.

hibee92
24-05-2021, 09:23 AM
I've been involved in top level competion for 35 years. I know exactly how it works.

35 and a half years for me. I’m only 28 mind you but if we’re making stuff up I want involved.

The dalmeny
24-05-2021, 09:24 AM
I don’t give a **** to be honest, to do it on the night of a cup final defeat isn’t a great look. Read the room.

The 'room' looks fine. The issue seems to be with anonymous folk on a football forum who the evening/video were never intended for.

I'm sure they will all look grumpy at preseason when they get the debrief on the final its self but I doubt that will be videoed.

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 09:27 AM
35 and a half years for me. I’m only 28 mind you but if we’re making stuff up I want involved.If you're saying I'm lying then yes, you are making stuff up.

Please stop.

hibee92
24-05-2021, 09:32 AM
If you're saying I'm lying then yes, you are making stuff up.

Please stop.

Sorry mate will do. I’d better head off actually I’m headlining the hydro at 7.

Peevemor
24-05-2021, 09:59 AM
Sorry mate will do. I’d better head off actually I’m headlining the hydro at 7.OK. You know better - you've found me out.

Jones28
24-05-2021, 10:18 AM
We cracked open the champagne about an hour after the game. We were all angry, fed up following that performance but you have to move on. We celebrated what has been a very good season and then drank far too much and paid the penalty the next day. it would have ben amazing to get the silver wear we could have but its done now. The squad will change over the next couple of months and I'll be desperate to watch the first friendly no matter the disappointment of Saturday. :flag:

Me too, another great day out ruined by the football.

oldbutdim
24-05-2021, 10:25 AM
Maybe for Josh Doig's birthday which he wouldn't have been able to celebrate last week.

There could be loads of reasons.

Apparently his girlfriend took the video.


Maybe the test came back negative?