Europa Draw

[Iggy Pope]

Probably already been covered but when’s the draw and what are the dates for our ‘game’.
Anyone?

[Green Man]

The draw is the 16th of June, the matches are 22nd and 29th of July.

[Iggy Pope]

The draw is the 16th of June, the matches are 22nd and 29th of July.

Thanks very much Green Man saved me looking.

[bingo70]

The draw is the 16th of June, the matches are 22nd and 29th of July.

Is there any danger we could get St Johnstone?

[Moulin Yarns]

Is there any danger we could get St Johnstone?

Aye, if we get to the final 😉

[Sir David Gray]

Is there any danger we could get St Johnstone?

No can't get them thankfully.

[mayo hibee]

Not relevant to us any more, but Villarreal completely blew it against Real Madrid in the last five minutes of their La Liga game this evening. Conceded two late goals to lose 2-1 and drop out of the Europa League places in Spain. This means that there almost certainly won't be automatic group stage European football for St Johnstone (and similarly wouldn't have been for us had we won today).

Not much consolation for us obviously, but maybe just a little.

[IberianHibernian]

The draw is the 16th of June, the matches are 22nd and 29th of July.Draw for round after is 19th July . Understandable since it`s on 5th and 12th August . League starts on 31st July ( 1st August for us I suppose ) .

[Iggy Pope]

Is there any danger we could get St Johnstone?

:greengrin Good lad Bingo.

[Green Man]

While I’d obviously have preferred to be looking at the Europa League ties, the ECL at least gives us a wider range of potential opponents, and the opportunity to pore over the closing stages of far flung European leagues to see who else has qualified.

[hibee62]

How many rounds from the group are we now and are we likely to be seeded at all?

[Green Man]

What’s the situation for us now, how many rounds do we have to win for a conference league safety net and are we likely to be seeded at all?

It’s unclear at the moment whether or not we’ll be seeded. According to Wikipedia, Aberdeen are seeded and their coefficient isn’t that much higher than ours, so it’s a possibility.

[bingo70]

How many rounds from the group are we now and are we likely to be seeded at all?

I could be wrong but I don’t think today’s draw effects what happens in Europe for us now.

[IberianHibernian]

How many rounds from the group are we now and are we likely to be seeded at all?3 rounds .

[Sir David Gray]

How many rounds from the group are we now and are we likely to be seeded at all?

We enter at the 2nd qualifying round, there's then the 3rd qualifying round and the play off round and then the group stages.

[scoopyboy]

How many rounds from the group are we now and are we likely to be seeded at all?

We would have to win three rounds to make the group stage, 2nd, 3rd and play off.

We will be seeded in the 2nd round draw.

[Alfred E Newman]

After watching that today I don't think I'll be having any sleepless nights thinking about our forthcoming Euro adventure.

[RoscoHibby]

We enter at the 2nd qualifying round, there's then the 3rd qualifying round and the play off round and then the group stages.

Haven’t been following this too closely, so excuse my ignorance but this is for Europa league yeah? Should we get knocked out here, no scope for ECL?

[scoopyboy]

Haven’t been following this too closely, so excuse my ignorance but this is for Europa league yeah? Should we get knocked out here, no scope for ECL?

Europa League has gone, in at 2nd round of conference

[RoscoHibby]

Europa League has gone, in at 2nd round of conference

Really? That’s what 3rd gets you...🙄 pffft..

[LancsHibs]

Yep we are now in the second qualifying round of the Europa Conference League and the draw is on 16th June. St.Johnstone are now in the Europa draw and good luck to them

[Iggy Pope]

Really? That’s what 3rd gets you...🙄 pffft..

And another few bob for not finishing 4th of course.

[hibee62]

Thanks all, so best we can hope for is a round or two, but unlikely to make the groups. The best thing to come from third is probably a bye in the league cup!

[WillowbraeHibby]

After watching that today I don't think I'll be having any sleepless nights thinking about our forthcoming Euro adventure.

Same... :(

[scoopyboy]

Really? That’s what 3rd gets you...🙄 pffft..

Would have got us Europa League if Celtic or Rangers won the Scottish Cup.

[AliboyFC]

How many qualification rounds we playing?

[bingo70]

How many qualification rounds we playing?

One probably 😂

[Hibby70]

One probably 😂

😂

[AliboyFC]

One probably 😂

Damn 😅

[AliboyFC]

To get to the qualification rounds - three.

So would that mean 6 games? One home one away

[Sir David Gray]

How many qualification rounds we playing?

To get to the group stages - three.

[Sir David Gray]

So would that mean 6 games? One home one away

Yes 6 matches away from the Conference League group stages.

[AliboyFC]

Yes 6 matches away from the Conference League group stages.

That sounds hard. Hopefully we get the likes of dundalk and NI teams.

[Billy Whizz]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/explained-new-look-uefa-qualifying-route-for-scottish-sides?top

Good summary on the attached link

[JohnM1875]

Hope Chelsea absolutely pump Villa today so there's no chance of St Johnstone getting group stage football.

[Silversand]

The draw is the 16th of June, the matches are 22nd and 29th of July.Have last 2 weeks of July as holidays, with nothing yet booked, so hopeful of a good Euro trip option, pandemic permitting (have had both vaccines [emoji6]).

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[lugz]

So we've finished 3rd in the league and we can't even qualify for the europa league?

[JohnM1875]

So we've finished 3rd in the league and we can't even qualify for the europa league?

We can. Just need to win two qualifiers.

[BoomtownHibees]

We can. Just need to win two qualifiers.

Not for the Europa League. We are now in the Conference League

[JohnM1875]

Not for the Europa League. We are now in the Conference League

Wow, did not know thay. Bizarre considering our coefficient is pretty high.

[lugz]

Not for the Europa League. We are now in the Conference League

Seems a bit of a joke really. In a league that's financially dominated by the ugly sisters 3rd place and the odd trophy success is all teams can play for. Wouldn't say a new 3rd tier European competition is much of a reward for a 38 game season.

[Just_Jimmy]

Not for the Europa League. We are now in the Conference Leaguewhich is a nonsense. regardless of yesterday's result I've said before that finishing higher in the league should always out trump a cup win for European placings.

win 5-6 games or finish third over 38 games... no brainer

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[H18 SFR]

We find out our potential opponents on 16th June. It will be the winners of a 1st qualifying round tie so we won’t have long in real terms to book travel should the opponents be on the green list. Hoping for a League of Ireland opponent personally.

[1van Sprou7e]

We could potentially draw Hibernians FC of Malta I believe

[Greenbeard]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/explained-new-look-uefa-qualifying-route-for-scottish-sides?top

Good summary on the attached link
So no difference as far as Europe is concerned between us finishing 3rd and the Sheep finishing 4th?
Unless we are seeded and the Sheep are not. (Cue jokes about seeding sheep.)

[Billy Whizz]

So no difference as far as Europe is concerned between us finishing 3rd and the Sheep finishing 4th?
Unless we are seeded and the Sheep are not. (Cue jokes about seeding sheep.)

Hibs and Aberdeen are both seeded

[H18 SFR]

[QUOTE=Billy Whizz;6577277]Hibs and Aberdeen are both seeded[/QUOTE

We’re going on an adventure!!

[bingo70]

I see Tottenham will be England’s representatives for the conference league.

Sorry if it’s already been covered but is there anywhere we can see a list of teams we could come up against in our first qualifying round?

[Diclonius]

I thought this new tournament was supposed to give the "lesser" leagues a decent shot at extended European football. How come the Scottish representatives still have to play six ****ing games to get there? No doubt some loser 10th placed Spanish/Italian/English team qualifies automatically?

[H18 SFR]

I see Tottenham will be England’s representatives for the conference league.

Sorry if it’s already been covered but is there anywhere we can see a list of teams we could come up against in our first qualifying round?

Wiki has the current list which is still to be finalised.

[bringbackbenny]

I see Tottenham will be England’s representatives for the conference league.

Sorry if it’s already been covered but is there anywhere we can see a list of teams we could come up against in our first qualifying round?

https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedecl2021.html

[Green Man]

I see Tottenham will be England’s representatives for the conference league.

Sorry if it’s already been covered but is there anywhere we can see a list of teams we could come up against in our first qualifying round?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League tends to be kept well up to date - it’s already been updated to include Spurs.

[Lancs Harp]

I thought this new tournament was supposed to give the "lesser" leagues a decent shot at extended European football. How come the Scottish representatives still have to play six ****ing games to get there? No doubt some loser 10th placed Spanish/Italian/English team qualifies automatically?

I think it does give lesser leagues more opportunity. Thats to compete in it not win it though. We'll probably be playing teams from Luxembourg, Iceland, Gib, Estonia etc in the qualification rounds. We will have a much better chance in making the group stage in the Conference League than we have done in the Europa League. I'm looking forward to it, love our European history and our European adventures. The more games the more potential dosh!! Be great to play teams from Wales or Ireland in our qualifiers!

[Hibs Class]

So from what I can gather we're several games away from a group stage, whilst teams that have finished lower in their "better" national leagues enter at a later stage than we do, and are then seeded to further increase their chances of progression? Quite corrupt in my opinion.

[Lancs Harp]

Do we now come in the League cup at the knock out stage?

[H18 SFR]

Do we now come in the League cup at the knock out stage?

Yes!

[Sir David Gray]

Yes!

:agree: Teams that qualify for Europe always get a bye to the knockout stage of the League Cup.

[Alex Trager]

So from what I can gather we're several games away from a group stage, whilst teams that have finished lower in their "better" national leagues enter at a later stage than we do, and are then seeded to further increase their chances of progression? Quite corrupt in my opinion.

That’s the way of the world of football now man.

It’s the same all over (I think).

It’s all about keeping the money in the game, and frankly, has ruined the magic of these trophies.

Seeding is the antithesis of sport.

[Alex Trager]

So we have 3 ties to try and negotiate to get through into the groups of this competition?

What would it have been if we won the cup?

[Speedy]

I think it does give lesser leagues more opportunity. Thats to compete in it not win it though. We'll probably be playing teams from Luxembourg, Iceland, Gib, Estonia etc in the qualification rounds. We will have a much better chance in making the group stage in the Conference League than we have done in the Europa League. I'm looking forward to it, love our European history and our European adventures. The more games the more potential dosh!! Be great to play teams from Wales or Ireland in our qualifiers!

Had the ECL not existed this year the Scottish Cup winner would be straight into the Europa League group stage.

[Sir David Gray]

So we have 3 ties to try and negotiate to get through into the groups of this competition?

What would it have been if we won the cup?

The third qualifying round of the Europa League.

Two rounds away from the Europa League group stage.

[Bostonhibby]

We could potentially draw Hibernians FC of Malta I believeMaybe they'll beat st Johnstone?[emoji6]

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[IberianHibernian]

Do we now come in the League cup at the knock out stage?Yes . Will start our LC campaign with last 16 tie weekend 14th / 15th August hopefully 15th cause we`ve played a European tie on Thursday 12th .

[DIXIHIBS]

Maybe ive read it wrong but it looks like aberdeen are seeded but hibs seeding is not yet confirmed. Is that right?

[H18 SFR]

Maybe ive read it wrong but it looks like aberdeen are seeded but hibs seeding is not yet confirmed. Is that right?

Yes, they have a better coefficient than we do.

[IberianHibernian]

Not sure of dates of Euro 20 / 21 but assuming Scotland are eliminated after group will Nesbit , if still with us , be available for our first Euro match on 22nd July ? I assume he`d get 2 or 3 weeks holiday . Any other players who may be unavailable cause of late holidays after internationals ? Boyle ?

[Sir David Gray]

Not sure of dates of Euro 20 / 21 but assuming Scotland are eliminated after group will Nesbit , if still with us , be available for our first Euro match on 22nd July ? I assume he`d get 2 or 3 weeks holiday . Any other players who may be unavailable cause of late holidays after internationals ? Boyle ?

Australia have a few World Cup qualifiers coming up in a few weeks' time, their final one being on 15th June so he may well be away for those, I'm not sure if he will be picked or not.

[H18 SFR]

If we have a European tie and some of our players are given leave/holidays I will lose the bloody head.

[IberianHibernian]

If we have a European tie and some of our players are given leave/holidays I will lose the bloody head.Are players not legally entitled to holidays ? Was there not a Euro match we played with Riordan and O `Connor ( ? ) on bench cause they`d hardly trained . When Yogi was in charge I think . Anyway , other clubs will be in same position and we have 2 months to make plans . Anyway , probably only mean Nesbit can`t play pre season friendlies or Tierney play against us .

[duffers]

Maybe ive read it wrong but it looks like aberdeen are seeded but hibs seeding is not yet confirmed. Is that right?

Surely both hibs and Aberdeen would take the national coefficient as it will be better than our own?

[Since452]

I'm sure I'll feel differently soon but right now talk of Europe can get in the bin.

[H18 SFR]

I'm sure I'll feel differently soon but right now talk of Europe can get in the bin.

The draw is made June 15th/16th, hopefully by then you will feel more positive.

[Bristolhibby]

I'm sure I'll feel differently soon but right now talk of Europe can get in the bin.

This is football. You’ve got to look forward, never back.

Saturday was Saturday. Europe is still to come.

GGTTH

J

[CMurdoch]

https://news.stv.tv/sport/explained-new-look-uefa-qualifying-route-for-scottish-sides?top

Good summary on the attached link

Thanks Billy that is very clear.
2nd round should be easy enough but ramping up after that.
Suspect if we reach the play off round we would meet a big team dropping from a tournament above so unlikely to make it over the final hurdle.
However, as always fingers crossed that the draw is kind and we take our chance if there is one to reach the group stages.

[Daydreamer]

Maybe ive read it wrong but it looks like aberdeen are seeded but hibs seeding is not yet confirmed. Is that right?

It has been confirmed that Hibs will definitely be seeded in the 2nd qualifying round of the Conference

[Hermit Crab]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/3751906f96a24c92b3eecc137a155df0.jpg

[AliboyFC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/3751906f96a24c92b3eecc137a155df0.jpg

We will never beat the likes of roma.

[Hermit Crab]

We will never beat the likes of roma.


We will never beat half the teams in 2nd qualifying round. Some horrendous teams and countries in there.

[JohnM1875]

Surely Hibs will be seeded so will avoid the likes of Roma and Spurs?

[at last 61]

Surely Hibs will be seeded so will avoid the likes of Roma and Spurs?
Maybe come up against hadjuk split again :flag:

[Billy Whizz]

We will never beat the likes of roma.

My worst ever away ground to visit as a fan. Went with some customers to Italy v England in 1997, World Cup Qualifier. In all my years going to football, never experienced scenes in and outside the ground, like that night

[Hibbyradge]

I'd love us to get Santa Clara from the Azores, but I bet we draw a Belarusian team.

It's unlikely that we'll be allowed to travel anyway.

[MunsterHibee]

What's the likely hood of us being seeded for all qualifying rounds of the ECL and avoiding big names in the draw???

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[Hermit Crab]

What's the likely hood of us being seeded for all qualifying rounds of the ECL and avoiding big names in the draw???

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You'd think finishing 3rd in the domestic league would see us seeded but who knows. :dunno:

[Billy Whizz]

What's the likely hood of us being seeded for all qualifying rounds of the ECL and avoiding big names in the draw???

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Wiki has Hibs and Aberdeen seeded in the 2nd qualifying round, and the 3rd too

[Magpie]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210524/3751906f96a24c92b3eecc137a155df0.jpg

A lot of tough games there. Be surprised if we make the play off round.

[Green Man]

Wiki has Hibs and Aberdeen seeded in the 2nd qualifying round, and the 3rd too

Bert Kassies has us both unseeded in the 3rd, which looks more likely.

[Billy Whizz]

Bert Kassies has us both unseeded in the 3rd, which looks more likely.

Thanks, I’ll have a look at that

[Fergus52]

Thanks, I’ll have a look at that

Link is here: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedecl2021.html

usually find this site more accurate than wikipedia or anywhere else for up to date seedings, coefficients and potential draws in UEFA competitions.

Link above answers a bunch of questions recently posted on this thread.

[Billy Whizz]

Link is here: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedecl2021.html

usually find this site more accurate than wikipedia or anywhere else for up to date seedings, coefficients and potential draws in UEFA competitions.

Link above answers a bunch of questions recently posted on this thread.

I had a look a moment ago, my head is scrambled looking at that😀

[Fergus52]

Thanks Billy that is very clear.
2nd round should be easy enough but ramping up after that.
Suspect if we reach the play off round we would meet a big team dropping from a tournament above so unlikely to make it over the final hurdle.
However, as always fingers crossed that the draw is kind and we take our chance if there is one to reach the group stages.

Not being seeded in Q3 could play into our favour here.

Assuming the play off is drawn before Q3 is finished then we'd have the higher coefficient of our opponents in Q3 in the draw for the play-off which would increase the likelihood of being seeded.

Would still require an upset in the form of us beating a seeded team in Q3, but it would not be impossible - there are some big upsets every year in the qualifying rounds.

below are the teams we could play in Q3 - to be seeded in the play-off we would likely need to draw one of the teams with a coefficient of 17 or higher.

24757

[Green Man]

If we get drawn against Molde again, at least they won’t have Erling Haaland this time.

[LancsHibs]

As more clubs qualify for the Conference League it is confirmed that Hibs are now seeded for the second round qualifying draw along with Aberdeen.

[SChibs]

Scenes when we draw Hibernians

[Billy Whizz]

If we get drawn against Molde again, at least they won’t have Erling Haaland this time.

But they will be a team in mid season

[Green Man]

But they will be a team in mid season

They’re still a team I’d rather avoid, I just remember Haaland being superb when we played them.

[St Pauli Hibee]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

[Sir David Gray]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Looking forward to the threads asking how to get to Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan or Belarus.

[AliboyFC]

Scenes when we draw Hibernians

I thought that was us but they spelt our name wrong 😅

[H18 SFR]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Always try to get my head round how it can be x/y/z teams, can you explain a bit St Pauli? Also, are you organising buses? 😂

[Stuart93]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

It is now your duty to keep us up to date on this

[Scorrie]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Most of those teams look like a bad Scrabble hand!

[AliboyFC]

Most of those teams look like a bad Scrabble hand!

Interesting names that's for sure.

[Hibbyradge]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Brest :tee hee:

[Billy Whizz]

Brest :tee hee:

They should be booted out this season

[davhibby]

Not being seeded in Q3 could play into our favour here.

Assuming the play off is drawn before Q3 is finished then we'd have the higher coefficient of our opponents in Q3 in the draw for the play-off which would increase the likelihood of being seeded.

Would still require an upset in the form of us beating a seeded team in Q3, but it would not be impossible - there are some big upsets every year in the qualifying rounds.

below are the teams we could play in Q3 - to be seeded in the play-off we would likely need to draw one of the teams with a coefficient of 17 or higher.

24757

There’s a couple of very winnable games in the teams higher up that list. It looks to me as if the playoff round will be at a similar level to the 3rd round of the Europa League in the old set up where we played Molde last time around.

With some decent luck in the draws there’s no reason we can’t be looking to make the group stage

[Hermit Crab]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)


We want the ones in bold, no hopers.

[DarrenSQH]

Brest :tee hee:

They stayed at the hotel in Athens our bus left for Tripolos from. There tracksuits were the same as scotland ones and I assumed they were Hibees at first in a scotland training top. Sure they won their tie that night in Athens

[AliboyFC]

Big brestys badge look like ours

[Jones28]

I thought this new tournament was supposed to give the "lesser" leagues a decent shot at extended European football. How come the Scottish representatives still have to play six ****ing games to get there? No doubt some loser 10th placed Spanish/Italian/English team qualifies automatically?

Don’t worry, it’ll be against similar levels of ***** to ourselves.

[Jones28]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Every one of those teams screams of cheap beer, red fags and a small but dedicated groups of ****ing mental hooligans.

[BS44]

Every one of those teams screams of cheap beer, red fags and a small but dedicated groups of ****ing mental hooligans.

I'd be impressed if you managed to find cheap beer in Norway.

[Hermit Crab]

I'd be impressed if you managed to find cheap beer in Norway.


Or Sweden!! I mind being there and it costing an absolute fortune for a pint up in Elfsborg.

[Jones28]

I'd be impressed if you managed to find cheap beer in Norway.

Thats true. And we'd get beat.

[Diclonius]

We have a decent chance at making the play-off round, at which point we'll most likely get ****ed.

[H18 SFR]

Doing some research about driving as bored at work:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus) 1562 miles, dodgy politically and I am sure you'd need a visa and all that to go in any case.
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia) 1418 miles
FC Ashdod (Israel) Too far
Valerenga (Norway) 1390 miles
BK Hacken (Sweden) 1278 miles
IF Elfsborg (Sweden) 1286 miles
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria) 2055 miles
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan) Too far
Tobol (Kazakhstan) Too far
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan) Too far
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus See Brest
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland) 1415 miles
Pogon Szczecin (Poland) 1194 miles

I am off work for 7 weeks over the summer, really fancying a road trip, I think Slovakia, Norway, Sweden and Poland are all doable.

[Diclonius]

Are we in a position in terms of quality where we can enact revenge on Elfsborg?

[.Sean.]

Or Sweden!! I mind being there and it costing an absolute fortune for a pint up in Elfsborg.
Copenhagen for the Brondby match was the same. Spent more there in a day and a bit that I did in Benidorm in 3 days a week later ��

[marinello59]

Copenhagen for the Brondby match was the same. Spent more there in a day and a bit that I did in Benidorm in 3 days a week later ��

It was worth every penny spent there though. Cracking trip. :greengrin

[nonshinyfinish]

Looking forward to the threads asking how to get to Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan or Belarus.

Just jump on any Ryanair flight and you have a chance of landing in Belarus.

[I'm Spartacus]

Best and most underrated thread on here, in all the carnage there's a reminder that we're in a Euro draw!

PANT WETTERS - "Jack out" "Sell the club" "Shut the doors and sell the ground" "Hunners aren't renewing in disgust"

NORMAL RESPECTFUL FANS - "When's the Euro draw?" "Quite excited about seeing our name be pulled out"

[Hermit Crab]

Best and most underrated thread on here, in all the carnage there's a reminder that we're in a Euro draw!

PANT WETTERS - "Jack out" "Sell the club" "Shut the doors and sell the ground" "Hunners aren't renewing in disgust"

NORMAL RESPECTFUL FANS - "When's the Euro draw?" "Quite excited about seeing our name be pulled out"


Its just a shame that we are unlikely to be able to travel to the away legs.

[Bad Habits]

If we get drawn against Molde again, at least they won’t have Erling Haaland this time.

Hadn't they just sold him before? Or did he play?

[H18 SFR]

Its just a shame that we are unlikely to be able to travel to the away legs.

I remain hopeful that by then we will, basically 8 weeks from now...fingers crossed!

[wallpaperman]

Hadn't they just sold him before? Or did he play?

Didn’t play at ER, but was back for the return leg and scored twice.

[Hermit Crab]

I remain hopeful that by then we will, basically 8 weeks from now...fingers crossed!


You'll likely need both vaccines and I will only have had my first dose unfortunately.

[Hermit Crab]

Didn’t play at ER, but was back for the return leg and scored twice.


He absolutely destroyed us that night.

[marinello59]

You'll likely need both vaccines and I will only have had my first dose unfortunately.

All us oldies who will have had both doses will have to fly the Hibernian flag. :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

All us oldies who will have had both doses will have to fly the Hibernian flag. :greengrin

I'm not going anywhere near Belarus and I can't even spell jurnalist! :paranoid:

[Hermit Crab]

All us oldies who will have had both doses will have to fly the Hibernian flag. :greengrin


You can borrow my 15ft x 8ft Hibs On Tour flag if you want. :greengrin

[LancsHibs]

Already checking the Conference League Wiki page daily to see updates on who is confirmed and who we might draw😁

[davhibby]

Its just a shame that we are unlikely to be able to travel to the away legs.

We could get a Welsh team in the first round we’re in at, maybe we’d be able to get to that?

[marinello59]

You can borrow my 15ft x 8ft Hibs On Tour flag if you want. :greengrin

Deal. :greengrin

[Fergus52]

Already checking the Conference League Wiki page daily to see updates on who is confirmed and who we might draw😁

Get on Bert kassies mate, it's updated quicker and usually more accurate I find.

(I'm not on commission I swear)

[St Pauli Hibee]

Always try to get my head round how it can be x/y/z teams, can you explain a bit St Pauli? Also, are you organising buses? 😂

Hibs On Tour in the foothills of Kazakhstan, I can see it now :hilarious:hilarious, If it's possible I will definitely look into organising buses again

[blackpoolhibs]

Had both jabs, and if allowed i'd love to take the car on a road trip for a few days travelling somewhere different.

[St Pauli Hibee]

Update on who we can play:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Winners of match involving Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Winners of the Swedish Cup
Arda/Cherno More (Bulgaria)
10 Winners from the first qualifying round

[Alfred E Newman]

Pogan Szczecin away with the Hibs mob stripped to the waist in the cage behind the goals!

[JohnMcM]

You'll likely need both vaccines and I will only have had my first dose unfortunately.

Bad luck man. On the other hand, I’ve had both :hyper

[Bristolhibby]

At the moment we can draw one of:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Ashdod, watch out for those Hamas rockets!

J

[Bristolhibby]

I remain hopeful that by then we will, basically 8 weeks from now...fingers crossed!

I’m still shifting it about the Scotland game in Copenhagen, and that’s not until the 1st September!

J

[Hibbyradge]

Had both jabs, and if allowed i'd love to take the car on a road trip for a few days travelling somewhere different.

I'm the same, but the first round we're in might be tricky for me.

Will we be away first if we're seeded?

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm the same, but the first round we're in might be tricky for me.

Will we be away first if we're seeded?

I've no idea Dave. :greengrin

[Iggy Pope]

Update on who we can play:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Winners of match involving Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Winners of the Swedish Cup
Arda/Cherno More (Bulgaria)
10 Winners from the first qualifying round

Elfsborg. What a money that trip cost last time. Took the Hacken game in that weekend for a cheaper Sunday night as well along with a few others Hibbies.
Latvia would be great again, Estonia too. If we were allowed of course!

[Bristolhibby]

Sorry if it’s been said, does anyone know the dates for…

The draw
The first leg we play in
The second leg we play in (will the home or away leg be first)

Second round dates and so on.

Cheers

Just looking to see if I need to book some holiday.

J

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sorry if it’s been said, does anyone know the dates for…

The draw
The first leg we play in
The second leg we play in (will the home or away leg be first)

Second round dates and so on.

Cheers

Just looking to see if I need to book some holiday.

J

Europa Conference League: Fixture dates and format as Spurs qualify (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/europa-conference-league-fixture-dates-and-format-as-spurs-qualify/ar-AAKjTXJ?ocid=msedgntp)

[Sir David Gray]

Sorry if it’s been said, does anyone know the dates for…

The draw
The first leg we play in
The second leg we play in (will the home or away leg be first)

Second round dates and so on.

Cheers

Just looking to see if I need to book some holiday.

J

We start in the second qualifying round, the draw's made on 16th June and the ties are played on 22nd and 29th July.

Not too sure who will be at home in the first leg but as we're seeded I think the second leg might be at home.

[Hermit Crab]

We start in the second qualifying round, the draw's made on 16th June and the ties are played on 22nd and 29th July.

Not too sure who will be at home in the first leg but as we're seeded I think the second leg might be at home.


Thats usually the case, second leg at home for seeded clubs.

[147lothian]

Ok let me know if I've got this right? We enter the second round and there is no big teams in there so that tie is winable, we would then have to negotiate another two rounds to reach the group stage, our seeding would be similar to Aberdeen's is this correct? Do any big teams enter after the second round and with our seeding how likely are we to avoid the bigger teams?

[H18 SFR]

Get on Bert kassies mate, it's updated quicker and usually more accurate I find.

(I'm not on commission I swear)

First time I've looked at that was today - great find, thanks for sharing!

[.Sean.]

Update on who we can play:

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Winners of match involving Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)

Winners of the Swedish Cup
Arda/Cherno More (Bulgaria)
10 Winners from the first qualifying round
Ashdod are the Israeli side we signed Marciano from I’m sure. If he’s going back to Israel to play not out with the realms of possibility he might re-sign for them.

[Fergus52]

Ok let me know if I've got this right? We enter the second round and there is no big teams in there so that tie is winable, we would then have to negotiate another two rounds to reach the group stage, our seeding would be similar to Aberdeen's is this correct? Do any big teams enter after the second round and with our seeding how likely are we to avoid the bigger teams?

There are some big teams in the second round, but we are definitely seeded so will avoid them.

Us (and Aberdeen) are definitely unseeded for the third round, so could get a tough draw.

The quality of seeded teams in qualifying round 3 is going to vary quite a lot, with sides like Dundalk and FC Ferhevar (hungary) at one end of the spectrum, and Basel, Gent, Anderlecht, Copenhagen at the stronger end.

One benefit to getting a tough draw in round 3 would be that it may end up allowing us to be seeded for the play-off tie, making it theoretically easier to reach the groups as only one upset would be required instead of 2.

[147lothian]

There are some big teams in the second round, but we are definitely seeded so will avoid them.

Us (and Aberdeen) are definitely unseeded for the third round, so could get a tough draw.

The quality of seeded teams in qualifying round 3 is going to vary quite a lot, with sides like Dundalk and FC Ferhevar (hungary) at one end of the spectrum, and Basel, Gent, Anderlecht, Copenhagen at the stronger end.

One benefit to getting a tough draw in round 3 would be that it may end up allowing us to be seeded for the play-off tie, making it theoretically easier to reach the groups as only one upset would be required instead of 2.

Cheers Fergus52, so in theory, we could reach the group stages by only playing one tough tie, depending on the draw of course

[Stuart93]

Whoever we get I hope we’ve got most of the squad sorted in terms of arrivals and departures. Too often we’ve went into these European qualifiers under strength

[flash]

Turns out if Man United win St Johnstone might go back to where we originally thought the Cup winner would be ie: guaranteed until Xmas.

[ekhibee]

So we could, potentially, have a Hibs v Hibs match?

[JohnM1875]

Turns out if Man United win St Johnstone might go back to where we originally thought the Cup winner would be ie: guaranteed until Xmas.

Don't think that's right man? Don't think any result tonight would impact where the Scottish Cup winners enter European football.

Before the game on Saturday, the only way it would be affected was by Villarreal winning the Europa League and also finishing in European League places in La Liga. However, Villarreal finished outside of the euro places

[Glory Lurker]

Turns out if Man United win St Johnstone might go back to where we originally thought the Cup winner would be ie: guaranteed until Xmas.

Hope Villareal win then. Nothing against St Johnstone but had taken some consolation from us at least not having missed out on that bounty after all!

[Glory Lurker]

So we could, potentially, have a Hibs v Hibs match?

I'd be hoarse with booing by kick off.

[flash]

Don't think that's right man? Don't think any result tonight would impact where the Scottish Cup winners enter European football.

Before the game on Saturday, the only way it would be affected was by Villarreal winning the Europa League and also finishing in European League places in La Liga. However, Villarreal finished outside of the euro places
Just passing on info from a guy on twitter who is an expert on such matters.

[Nicho87]

Icelandic fishing untied will be quaking in their boots

[Hibbyradge]

I'd be hoarse with booing by kick off.

:faf: :top marks

[JohnM1875]

Just passing on info from a guy on twitter who is an expert on such matters.

Dale Johnson? Just seen that. Bizarre. 'Mon Villarreal then.

[Stuart93]

Just passing on info from a guy on twitter who is an expert on such matters.

FFS. Surely we’ve no handed St J guaranteed European fitbaw until xmas

[marinello59]

FFS. Surely we’ve no handed St J guaranteed European fitbaw until xmas

Nope.
If it happens they earned it. Some of the angst on here is getting silly now.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'd be hoarse with booing by kick off.

Some folk on here would have a stroke.

And not in a good way.

[JohnMcM]

FFS. Surely we’ve no handed St J guaranteed European fitbaw until xmas

If so, they earned it and we gifted it.

[JohnM1875]

FFS. Surely we’ve no handed St J guaranteed European fitbaw until xmas

I'm honestly not sure anyone knows.

A few folk saying if Man Utd win St Johnstone COULD be promoted up then gain guaranteed group stage football.

Everything should be clearer after a Uefa meeting tomorrow. So, who knows.

[Stuart93]

I'm honestly not sure anyone knows.

A few folk saying if Man Utd win St Johnstone COULD be promoted up then gain guaranteed group stage football.

Everything should be clearer after a Uefa meeting tomorrow. So, who knows.

I’d still prefer a villareal win tonight just incase

[JohnM1875]

I’d still prefer a villareal win tonight just incase

Aw absolutely! Without a doubt. Joma brothers as well.

[Stuart93]

Aw absolutely! Without a doubt. Joma brothers as well.

Hopefully we don’t need to worry any further. Hahaha aye Joma brothers, wonder if they’ll loan us some players

[CB Hibs 68]

I’d still prefer a villareal win tonight just incase

Pretty sure. Villarreal win tonight means St J will reap the financial rewards of playing at the minimum in the Europa Conference group stages.Another reason to be seriously pissed off with Saturdays performance and result.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Only UEFA or FIFA could make a simple game like fitba intae such a friggin' dugs dinner .... just chuck every bugger intae a hat and get on with it :greengrin

[green day]

Pretty sure. Villarreal win tonight means St J will reap the financial rewards of playing at the minimum in the Europa Conference group stages.Another reason to be seriously pissed off with Saturdays performance and result.

I dont think it does.

However there is a UEFA meeting tomorrow that will clarify it.

[Stuart93]

Pretty sure. Villarreal win tonight means St J will reap the financial rewards of playing at the minimum in the Europa Conference group stages.Another reason to be seriously pissed off with Saturdays performance and result.

Na think that changed for some reason

[davhibby]

Na think that changed for some reason

Villarreal had to qualify for the Europa League through the league for that, but they finished 7th in the end.

[CB Hibs 68]

Villarreal had to qualify for the Europa League through the league for that, but they finished 7th in the end.

Ok .Let’s accept that UEFA are making this issue totally convuluted.Fact is Villareal are now courtesy of winning tonight in the Champions Lesgue.This somehow someways opens the door for ST J to end up playing Europiean fitba till Xmas.Goodluck to them playing twice a week .

[HoboHarry]

So we could, potentially, have a Hibs v Hibs match?

Two Hibs teams to slag off in one match? The match thread would be about 400 pages long.....

[.Sean.]

So you could say that if St Johnstone are now guaranteed group stage football til Xmas (and good luck to them btw) then that capitulation we had to endure on Saturday has quite literally cost the club millions in revenue.

[MWHIBBIES]

So you could say that if St Johnstone are now guaranteed group stage football til Xmas (and good luck to them btw) then that capitulation we had to endure on Saturday has quite literally cost the club millions in revenue.

You could say that yes. Althoguh it would be a waste of time saying something that has already been done to death.

[BlackSheep]

So you could say that if St Johnstone are now guaranteed group stage football til Xmas (and good luck to them btw) then that capitulation we had to endure on Saturday has quite literally cost the club millions in revenue.

You could say that, but seeing as SJ are NOT guaranteed euro football till Xmas it would be a waste of breath.

[Sir David Gray]

So you could say that if St Johnstone are now guaranteed group stage football til Xmas (and good luck to them btw) then that capitulation we had to endure on Saturday has quite literally cost the club millions in revenue.

As far as I understand the very complicated process, the Scottish Cup winners needed either Chelsea or Villarreal to win the Champions League/Europa League AND qualify for the Europa League through their domestic league.

Since Chelsea qualified for the Champions League and Villarreal the Europa Conference League I believe St Johnstone miss out on a bye to the Europa League play offs.

I think!

[theonlywayisup]

As far as I understand the very complicated process, the Scottish Cup winners needed either Chelsea or Villarreal to win the Champions League/Europa League AND qualify for the Europa League through their domestic league.

Since Chelsea qualified for the Champions League and Villarreal the Europa Conference League I believe St Johnstone miss out on a bye to the Europa League play offs.

I think!

That's the way that I understand it. Saints need a team that has already qualified for the Europa League to win one of the two European competitions that would result on them being 'promoted' into the Champions League, with the result that teams that qualified for the Europa League moving up one spot in the rankings.

Simples!

Not that it matters now to Hibs. When do we now play our first European game?

[Sir David Gray]

That's the way that I understand it. Saints need a team that has already qualified for the Europa League to win one of the two European competitions that would result on them being 'promoted' into the Champions League, with the result that teams that qualified for the Europa League moving up one spot in the rankings.

Simples!

Not that it matters now to Hibs. When do we now play our first European game?

22nd July.

[.Sean.]

You could say that, but seeing as SJ are NOT guaranteed euro football till Xmas it would be a waste of breath.
Is it really a waste of breath though, they will be if what was alluded to on the previous page is true and they are now straight into the Europa League play off, then they will be guaranteed group stage football.

Hope I’m wrong however

[Juniper Greens]

I don't think its inconceivable that villareal winning last night will bump us into Q3 rather than Q2, looking at the access list...

[calumhibee1]

I see Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas were on BT last night saying the Conference League is a joke and they don’t think it’ll last more than a season..

Wonder what the logic is behind that, if there’s any at all of course.

[CapitalGreen]

Is it really a waste of breath though, they will be if what was alluded to on the previous page is true and they are now straight into the Europa League play off, then they will be guaranteed group stage football.

Hope I’m wrong however

Villarreal weren’t in the Europa League next season so their qualification for the Champions League shouldn’t create a space to be filled in that competition. They were qualified for the Europa Conference League so it is feasible their victory could have a positive impact on the round we enter but I’d need to look further into whether that was the case.

[BlackSheep]

Is it really a waste of breath though, they will be if what was alluded to on the previous page is true and they are now straight into the Europa League play off, then they will be guaranteed group stage football.

Hope I’m wrong however

You are incorrect, hence my comment on a waste of breath… sorry I didn’t mean it to come across as petty… just reinforcing the point that the points that needed to be hit for SJ to get a playoff spot have already been missed regardless of the EL and CL final results.

[Newry Hibs]

I see Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas were on BT last night saying the Conference League is a joke and they don’t think it’ll last more than a season..

Wonder what the logic is behind that, if there’s any at all of course.

The only football that matters to the TV companies are the upper Premier league teams and the Champions League.
There was (still is) plenty of slagging of the Europa league as vastly inferior and that EPL teams want to avoid it. They mean top Premier League teams want to avoid it. That changed when the winners got CL group stage qualification.

Just snobbery and insulting to teams / countries outside the elite.

[.Sean.]

You are incorrect, hence my comment on a waste of breath… sorry I didn’t mean it to come across as petty… just reinforcing the point that the points that needed to be hit for SJ to get a playoff spot have already been missed regardless of the EL and CL final results.
No harm done, for once more than happy to be proved wrong 😂

[.Sean.]

I see Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas were on BT last night saying the Conference League is a joke and they don’t think it’ll last more than a season..

Wonder what the logic is behind that, if there’s any at all of course.
Ferdinand is a drugs cheat and Jermaine Jeans is the most boring person on tele.

Maybe we’d not need a conference league which btw will contain big clubs that unfortunately don’t have the finances to compete at the top table if clubs like the ones they represented hadn’t bled the game dry the last 20 years and insisted on a champions league containing teams that finish 3rd and 4th. Idiots.

[hibsbollah]

I see Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas were on BT last night saying the Conference League is a joke and they don’t think it’ll last more than a season..

Wonder what the logic is behind that, if there’s any at all of course.

It depends who you are.

If you’re Arsenal or Spurs who have to continue to get in champions league money to play their ludicrous wages, it’s a waste of time.

If you’re a team from a small country with a poor domestic tv deal it’s a total financial lifeline.

it a joke is we have pundits like that who seem to be unable to talk about football unless it directly relates to the English top flight.

[calumhibee1]

It depends who you are.

If you’re Arsenal or Spurs who have to continue to get in champions league money to play their ludicrous wages, it’s a waste of time.

If you’re a team from a small country with a poor domestic tv deal it’s a total financial lifeline.

it a joke is we have pundits like that who seem to be unable to talk about football unless it directly relates to the English top flight.

Absolutely :agree:

I wonder though if they have some sort of knowledge of the financial side of it etc and reckon it’s unviable for clubs or whether it is really just a load of ***** they’re talking because the world to them revolves around the EPL...

You know what, ignore me, I know the answer :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Absolutely :agree:

I wonder though if they have some sort of knowledge of the financial side of it etc and reckon it’s unviable for clubs or whether it is really just a load of ***** they’re talking because the world to them revolves around the EPL...

You know what, ignore me, I know the answer :greengrin

Nah I don’t think they are speaking with any inside knowledge, I think it’s ignorance. The conference league is bound to make the teams that do well in it a few million quid. For a start, there is a broadcast deal already, BT sport have the U.K. rights (the channel on which the pundits were slagging it off :rolleyes: Also, it’s structured like the CL with group stages to maximise amount of screen eyeball time and then knockout, and all the games will be televised. I can’t see how it WONT make money (at least at the levels that will benefit the likes of Rosenberg, or the 4th or 5th teams in Portugal or the Ukrainian runners up, and hopefully touch wood Hibs).

[green day]

Nah I don’t think they are speaking with any inside knowledge, I think it’s ignorance. The conference league is bound to make the teams that do well in it a few million quid. For a start, there is a broadcast deal already, BT sport have the U.K. rights (the channel on which the pundits were slagging it off :rolleyes: Also, it’s structured like the CL with group stages to maximise amount of screen eyeball time and then knockout, and all the games will be televised. I can’t see how it WONT make money (at least at the levels that will benefit the likes of Rosenberg, or the 4th or 5th teams in Portugal or the Ukrainian runners up, and hopefully touch wood Hibs).
A Spurs fan I vaguely know had suggested that they will play their "youth team" in the conf league. Also that there is a "small amount of money" on offer.

I guess it's all relative, when our first 11 probably earn the same in total as one or two EPL stars on inflated salaries

It will still be decent cash to Hibs, Aberdeen etc

[Since90+2]

A Spurs fan I vaguely know had suggested that they will play their "youth team" in the conf league. Also that there is a "small amount of money" on offer.

I guess it's all relative, when our first 11 probably earn the same in total as one or two EPL stars on inflated salaries

It will still be decent cash to Hibs, Aberdeen etc

Our first 11 combined probably earn somewhere in the region of £25,000 a week. I'm guessing that's probably about half of what a single first team player at Tottenham is on.

Ridiculous when you think about it.

[Sir David Gray]

Our first 11 combined probably earn somewhere in the region of £25,000 a week. I'm guessing that's probably about half of what a single first team player at Tottenham is on.

Ridiculous when you think about it.

Harry Kane's reportedly on around £200,000 per week.

[MyJo]

A Spurs fan I vaguely know had suggested that they will play their "youth team" in the conf league. Also that there is a "small amount of money" on offer.

I guess it's all relative, when our first 11 probably earn the same in total as one or two EPL stars on inflated salaries

It will still be decent cash to Hibs, Aberdeen etc

That's the problem with big clubs now, it's not about the competition or winning a trophy its all about how much money they can earn.

[Chorley Hibee]

I see Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas were on BT last night saying the Conference League is a joke and they don’t think it’ll last more than a season..

Wonder what the logic is behind that, if there’s any at all of course.

They need to decide what side of the fence they're on.

Only a few weeks ago they were busy painting themselves as the saviour of football with their opposition to the ESL.

Now they're against anyone but the big clubs playing in Europe.

As hypocritical as ever.

[Allez Hibs]

it a joke is we have pundits like that who seem to be unable to talk about football unless it directly relates to the English top flight.

Well said 👏

[147lothian]

The only football that matters to the TV companies are the upper Premier league teams and the Champions League.
There was (still is) plenty of slagging of the Europa league as vastly inferior and that EPL teams want to avoid it. They mean top Premier League teams want to avoid it. That changed when the winners got CL group stage qualification.

Just snobbery and insulting to teams / countries outside the elite.


:top marksThe same snobs call the Europa League the losers league to them it's just the champions league that matters as far as a European football competition goes, they are better ignored

[ScottB]

The English pundits like those two care only for the Champions League. They take a passing interest in the Europa if any of their clubs get to the end, but even then it’s very much treated as a lesser thing. The Conference League will be dismissed even more so, unless or until an English team looks like winning it.

The likes of Ferdinand can barely string a coherent sentence together. Having overly coordinated feet doesn’t lead to having an opinion worth a damn.

[Magpie]

I see Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas were on BT last night saying the Conference League is a joke and they don’t think it’ll last more than a season..

Wonder what the logic is behind that, if there’s any at all of course.

No doubt Jenas will be happy to commentate on it when Spurs play in it though.

Clubs like Everton, Leeds and Aston Villa would love to be part of the competition, their supporters have gone years without watching their team play in Europe, for many supporters a lot of their enjoyment is the match day experience, the away trips to places you’ve never visited, playing in some of the best and worst stadiums in Europe, that’s what makes playing in Europe so special and you can actually win a trophy at the end of it.

[Green Man]

I hadn’t realised how few teams go directly into the europa league now. The qualification process is so much shorter than the other two tournaments, with only a handful of teams going in at each stage. Half of the teams in the tournament will have dropped down from the champions league.

[Hibbyradge]

That's the problem with big clubs now, it's not about the competition or winning a trophy its all about how much money they can earn.

We were getting excited about how much money we'd get from an extended run in Europe even though we've no chance of winning it.

[ScottB]

I hadn’t realised how few teams go directly into the europa league now. The qualification process is so much shorter than the other two tournaments, with only a handful of teams going in at each stage. Half of the teams in the tournament will have dropped down from the champions league.

Yeah, it’s way more second (or third) chance saloon for Champions League teams than a tournament for smaller clubs / leagues.

[CMurdoch]

it is a ridiculous situation that teams in the Champions League qualifiers have to lose 3 times before they are out of Europe I.e club loses Champions league qualifier so drop down to the Europa league qualifiers and have another go and if they lose again, never mind have a go at the Confrence qualifiers. As in life the rich can't fail and get loads of chances.

Never mind, let's see if we can get 3 lucky draws and 6 decent performances. A long shot but let's see what we draw.

[St Pauli Hibee]

Update on who we can play:

Servette (Switzerland)
Aris Thessaloniki (Greece)
Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving KUPS (Finland)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Winners of match involving FC Santa Coloma (Andorra)
Winners of match involving Partizani (Albania)
Valerenga (Norway)
Hammarby IF (Sweden)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Arda (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Laci (Albania)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Sepsi OSK (Romania)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)
Winners of match involving Slask Wroclaw (Poland)
Winners of match involving Shkupi (North Macedonia)
Winners of match involving Petrocub Hincesti (Moldova)
Winners of match involving NSI Runavik (Faroe Islands)
Winners of match involving Coleraine (Northern Ireland)
Winners of match involving Tre Penne (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Siroki Brijeg (Bosnia & Herzegovina)
Winners of match involving MSK Zilina (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving Bala Town (Wales)
Panevezys (Lithuania)

[SChibs]

Update on who we can play:

Servette (Switzerland)
Aris Thessaloniki (Greece)
Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving KUPS (Finland)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Winners of match involving FC Santa Coloma (Andorra)
Winners of match involving Partizani (Albania)
Valerenga (Norway)
Hammarby IF (Sweden)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Arda (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Laci (Albania)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Sepsi OSK (Romania)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)
Winners of match involving Slask Wroclaw (Poland)
Winners of match involving Shkupi (North Macedonia)
Winners of match involving Petrocub Hincesti (Moldova)
Winners of match involving NSI Runavik (Faroe Islands)
Winners of match involving Coleraine (Northern Ireland)
Winners of match involving Tre Penne (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Siroki Brijeg (Bosnia & Herzegovina)
Winners of match involving MSK Zilina (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving Bala Town (Wales)
Panevezys (Lithuania)

I'd take Servette. We might get to Switzerland for an away trip. Only 2 players I recognise in their squad and they couldn't be more opposite. Gael Clichy and Alex Shcalk

[Diclonius]

C'mon, just give us Hibernians.

[ekhibee]

Harry Kane's reportedly on around £200,000 per week.

Isn't Bale on more than that?

[Sir David Gray]

Isn't Bale on more than that?

Possibly but he doesn't play for Tottenham anymore.

[Stairway 2 7]

Update on who we can play:

Servette (Switzerland)
Aris Thessaloniki (Greece)
Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving KUPS (Finland)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Winners of match involving FC Santa Coloma (Andorra)
Winners of match involving Partizani (Albania)
Valerenga (Norway)
Hammarby IF (Sweden)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Arda (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Laci (Albania)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Sepsi OSK (Romania)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)
Winners of match involving Slask Wroclaw (Poland)
Winners of match involving Shkupi (North Macedonia)
Winners of match involving Petrocub Hincesti (Moldova)
Winners of match involving NSI Runavik (Faroe Islands)
Winners of match involving Coleraine (Northern Ireland)
Winners of match involving Tre Penne (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Siroki Brijeg (Bosnia & Herzegovina)
Winners of match involving MSK Zilina (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving Bala Town (Wales)
Panevezys (Lithuania)

Gibraltar for an away day in the sun 🍺

[Sir David Gray]

Update on who we can play:

Servette (Switzerland)
Aris Thessaloniki (Greece)
Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving KUPS (Finland)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Winners of match involving FC Santa Coloma (Andorra)
Winners of match involving Partizani (Albania)
Valerenga (Norway)
Hammarby IF (Sweden)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Arda (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Laci (Albania)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Sepsi OSK (Romania)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)
Winners of match involving Slask Wroclaw (Poland)
Winners of match involving Shkupi (North Macedonia)
Winners of match involving Petrocub Hincesti (Moldova)
Winners of match involving NSI Runavik (Faroe Islands)
Winners of match involving Coleraine (Northern Ireland)
Winners of match involving Tre Penne (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Siroki Brijeg (Bosnia & Herzegovina)
Winners of match involving MSK Zilina (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving Bala Town (Wales)
Panevezys (Lithuania)

Coleraine or Bala Town so we have a chance of going to the away leg please.

[nonshinyfinish]

Update on who we can play:

Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus

This is great work SPH, but please can you close the brackets on this one? Makes me flinch every time.

[CapitalGreen]

Is there any regionalising in the ECL qualifying rounds?

Does the draw format follow that of EL previously in which the pool of teams is split into groups of 10 (5 seeded, 5 unseeded)?

[davhibby]

Is there any regionalising in the ECL qualifying rounds?

Does the draw format follow that of EL previously in which the pool of teams is split into groups of 10 (5 seeded, 5 unseeded)?

I’m not sure if they’ve officially announced how it’s going to be done but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s split in to the groups by some form of regionalisation in the early rounds, especially this year to help with any travel restrictions etc.

Based on how they’ve done it in recent years we’re probably more likely to be playing one of the UK/Ireland teams, or someone from the Faroes, Iceland or one of the Scandinavian countries

[H18 SFR]

Is there any regionalising in the ECL qualifying rounds?

Does the draw format follow that of EL previously in which the pool of teams is split into groups of 10 (5 seeded, 5 unseeded)?

Yes, this will be the case according to Bert Kassies.

[CapitalGreen]

Yes, this will be the case according to Bert Kassies.

Thanks, in that case we can probably reduce that list St Pauli posted to something like the below.

Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Winners of match involving KUPS (Finland)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
Valerenga (Norway)
Hammarby IF (Sweden)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus)
Winners of match involving NSI Runavik (Faroe Islands)
Winners of match involving Coleraine (Northern Ireland)
Winners of match involving Bala Town (Wales)
Panevezys (Lithuania)

[Crazyhorse]

Coleraine or Bala Town so we have a chance of going to the away leg please.

Yep Coleraine for me. My hometown team (well Portstewart actually but grew up watching Coleraine).

[Oscar T Grouch]

I am sure I saw on twitter last night we had drawn the winners of a match in Hungary (Winners of match involving Puskas Academia). It was late so my eyes would not be at their best then but I saw the Saltire then Hibernian vs Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary), 1st leg at home. I assume the draw hasn't been made and what I saw was someones attempt at a 'practise' draw of something similar.

[danhibees1875]

I am sure I saw on twitter last night we had drawn the winners of a match in Hungary (Winners of match involving Puskas Academia). It was late so my eyes would not be at their best then but I saw the Saltire then Hibernian vs Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary), 1st leg at home. I assume the draw hasn't been made and what I saw was someones attempt at a 'practise' draw of something similar.

I think the list of teams above has been going around as a 2 column list of teams and someone has thought that the columns were a sign of left team v right team.

[Oscar T Grouch]

I think the list of teams above has been going around as a 2 column list of teams and someone has thought that the columns were a sign of left team v right team.

That makes sense, cheers Dani :thumbsup:

[Since90+2]

Hopefully we don't get a Swedish or Norwegian side.

[JimBHibees]

Hopefully we don't get a Swedish or Norwegian side.

Yep slap bang in the middle of their season.

[Billy Whizz]

Hopefully we don't get a Swedish or Norwegian side.
Norwegian/Swedish teams ate always hard in the summer months, as they are well into their season

[Hibbyradge]

When is the draw being made?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Draws | UEFA Europa Conference League | UEFA.com (https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/draws/)

The opening draw for the inaugural UEFA Europa Conference League will be streamed live at 13:00 CET on 15 June as the first qualifying round ties are set.

In all 70 of the eventual 184 entrants will be involved in the first qualifying round. They will be split into two pots (seeded and unseeded) according to the UEFA club coefficient

rankings established at the beginning of the season.

The teams will be drawn into 35 ties, with each involving one seeded and one unseeded team. Any groupings or further restrictions will be confirmed ahead of the draw.

The ties will be played on 8 and 15 July and the winners will advance to the second qualifying round main path, for which the draw is made on 16 June and to which 55 clubs will

receive direct entry.


lord knows where we enter :)


P.S. i still hate St Johnstone