Boyle`s buy-out clause

[Irish_Steve]

According to the Sun, Martin has a buy-out clause of £500,000 so we wouldn`t be getting big money for him.

Mind you, it`s in the Sun and I haven`t clicked on the link for it as the Sun can go **** themselves

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57145344

[MyJo]

Same as what happened with Cummings.

Given what we have achieved this season with his help and that he could be walking away for nothing this summer I think getting £500k on top of the prize money for third place, league cup semi, scottish cup final/win and European football next season is a win for us

[Jim44]

According to the Sun, Martin has a buy-out clause of £500,000 so we wouldn`t be getting big money for him.

Mind you, it`s in the Sun and I haven`t clicked on the link for it as the Sun can go **** themselves

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57145344

Who would believe it? The Sun sewing negative seeds about Hibs in the run up to the Cup final. Mind you, the chat on here is all about the same issues, so, what the hell. Forum gossip and red top propaganda is par for the course and I don’t think JR and the squad will be unduly worried by our impending doom.

[SHODAN]

Same as what happened with Cummings.

Given what we have achieved this season with his help and that he could be walking away for nothing this summer I think getting £500k on top of the prize money for third place, league cup semi, scottish cup final/win and European football next season is a win for us

Yup, if this clause is in there it doesn't surprise me at all. Well worth it for another season out of him.

I've had an inkling for a while that the cup final will be his last game for us.

[Since452]

Hopefully Celtic present him with a plaque

[Oscar T Grouch]

Read in the BBC gossip regarding that article that Jackson Irvine is away to Aberdeen too :rolleyes:

[Jim44]

Celtic rag swallowing the Sun claptrap.

https://www.67hailhail.com/news/report-ex-celtic-target-martin-boyle-available-for-500k/

[Hibbyradge]

Celtic rag swallowing the Sun claptrap.

https://www.67hailhail.com/news/report-ex-celtic-target-martin-boyle-available-for-500k/

I very much doubt that the Sun has got it wrong about the buy-out clause.

[Jim44]

I very much doubt that the Sun has got it wrong about the buy-out clause.

So the Sun doesn’t have a monopoly on this? :greengrin I wonder if it was a Hibs employee, Boyle’s agent or Boyle himself who volunteered the personal information to the Sun.:rolleyes:

[jeffers]

So the Sun doesn’t have a monopoly on this? :greengrin I wonder if it was a Hibs employee, Boyle’s agent or Boyle himself who volunteered the personal information to the Sun.:rolleyes:

My money would be on his agent, looking to generate interest.

[Hibbyradge]

So the Sun doesn’t have a monopoly on this? :greengrin I wonder if it was a Hibs employee, Boyle’s agent or Boyle himself who volunteered the personal information to the Sun.:rolleyes:

Or someone else who knew.

Most likely the agent, though.

[my left peg]

Offer him a new contract with an increase in wages linked to an increase in his buy out clause,after all he has had a fantastic season?


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[Hibbyradge]

Offer him a new contract with an increase in wages linked to an increase in his buy out clause,after all he has had a fantastic season?


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I'm sure they will. Whether it's enough to fend off other, wealthier clubs is another matter.

[Greenio]

Shame, but not a massive surprise.

Wonder how much he'd go for without the buyout.

Our best player this season, in the prime of his career, got to be $2.5mil at least.

Wonder where he'll go

Class player

[H18 SFR]

I 100% agree that Boyle will have signed the new deal with a buy out clause, however, there has to be an element of clickbait when the Sun and other tabloids publish these stories, the £500k part will be the clickbait in my opinion.

I bet the buy out clause is nearer £1m.

[Peevemor]

Shame, but not a massive surprise.

Wonder how much he'd go for without the buyout.

Our best player this season, in the prime of his career, got to be $2.5mil at least.

Wonder where he'll go

Class player. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210518/1b0cc1efcf0de67faf6c4b56dc18db2e.jpg

[WhileTheChief..]

Celtic rag swallowing the Sun claptrap.

https://www.67hailhail.com/news/report-ex-celtic-target-martin-boyle-available-for-500k/

Why don’t you believe it?

You really think The Sun favour St J over Hibs?!

[500miles]

Shame, but not a massive surprise.

Wonder how much he'd go for without the buyout.

Our best player this season, in the prime of his career, got to be $2.5mil at least.

Wonder where he'll go

Class player

He's had dips in form this season, and he's a pacy player approaching the typical slowdown stage if his career. He's unlikely to have sell on value for his next club.

[seanshow]

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Wow boyler putting on the beef over the weekend, and the hair transplant has failed massively

[Peevemor]

He's had dips in form this season, and he's a pacy player approaching the typical slowdown stage if his career. He's unlikely to have sell on value for his next club.

He may well get a relatively big money contract if he moves but playing wise he'd be better staying put.

If he goes to the championship I can see him making a few starts - maybe even scoring, then a few substitute appearances then he'll be sent out o loan. Within 18 months he'll probably be back in Scotland playing for St Johnstone or someone.

[jacomo]

Why don’t you believe it?

You really think The Sun favour St J over Hibs?!


At the risk of adding fuel to the fire, Eddie Howe likes a pacy winger.

This season does feel like a bonus in terms of Boyle signing that new contract rather than moving on. I’d be gutted if he left but it would be hard to begrudge him a big pay day I suppose.

[Shrekko]

If they gave Boyler a big wage bump just so he could be sold in the summer for £500k that doesn’t sound like the smartest move the club has ever made. I though we were generally quite savvy in getting good deals for the club? That deal gives security to the player and not a lot else.

He is worth a minimum of £2 million and probably a lot more. We’ll always be grateful for his unbelievable contribution but to lose him for £500k would be a tough one.

[Hibbyradge]

If they gave Boyler a big wage bump just so he could be sold in the summer for £500k that doesn’t sound like the smartest move the club has ever made. I though we were generally quite savvy in getting good deals for the club? That deal gives security to the player and not a lot else.

He is worth a minimum of £2 million and probably a lot more. We’ll always be grateful for his unbelievable contribution but to lose him for £500k would be a tough one.

14 goals, 3rd place and a cup final must be worth a few bob

Letting him go for nothing was the alternative.

[loanheadhibby]

At the risk of adding fuel to the fire, Eddie Howe likes a pacy winger.

This season does feel like a bonus in terms of Boyle signing that new contract rather than moving on. I’d be gutted if he left but it would be hard to begrudge him a big pay day I suppose.

Eddie Howe may like pact wingers but is that the level of Celtics ambition? Signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

That’s part of the reason there was no title challenge from them.

On Boyle, take the money and run. We’ve had good service from him. If he wants to go, wish him the best. We should be aiming to maximise our returns on players.

[jacomo]

Eddie Howe may like pact wingers but is that the level of Celtics ambition? Signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

That’s part of the reason there was no title challenge from them.

On Boyle, take the money and run. We’ve had good service from him. If he wants to go, wish him the best. We should be aiming to maximise our returns on players.


I definitely would prefer he doesn’t leave. However, he’s proven himself to be a very effective player at this level... I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Celtc were interested.

[Shrekko]

14 goals, 3rd place and a cup final must be worth a few bob

Letting him go for nothing was the alternative.

I know - and keeping him and Nisbet was a huge part of that. I just expected them to do something that benefited the club a bit more when the time came for him to move. £500k is really paltry for a player like that.

It clearly suited the player to stay here in the meantime - I think he was happy to stay.

[jacomo]

14 goals, 3rd place and a cup final must be worth a few bob

Letting him go for nothing was the alternative.


:agree:

Getting Boyle to stay was a great piece of business.

[PatHead]

Or someone else who knew.

Most likely the agent, though.

Wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't.

[JimBHibees]

Or someone else who knew.

Most likely the agent, though.

His agent probably let onto journo months ago who has decided to release it now with impending final

[J-C]

:agree:

Getting Boyle to stay was a great piece of business.

He was staying till the end of this season anyway, but would've left for nowt similar to Rocky. This way we get something for him.

[bingo70]

Eddie Howe may like pact wingers but is that the level of Celtics ambition? Signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

That’s part of the reason there was no title challenge from them.

On Boyle, take the money and run. We’ve had good service from him. If he wants to go, wish him the best. We should be aiming to maximise our returns on players.

What’s wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

He’d be a great signing for them. The fact he’d be coming from Hibs doesn’t make that not the case.

[superfurryhibby]

14 goals, 3rd place and a cup final must be worth a few bob

Letting him go for nothing was the alternative.

TBF, most people grasp this concept :wink: Boyle has been a huge part of this season's success, he's earned a move, much though that prospect leaves me gutted.

Neither Hibs nor Boyle would merit any criticism should the aforementioned part ways this summer. I just hope that if he does go, he has enough ambition and self belief to back himself to go down south. I would hate seeing him at another Scottish club.

[Hibbyradge]

TBF, most people grasp this concept :wink: Boyle has been a huge part of this season's success, he's earned a move, much though that prospect leaves me gutted.

Neither Hibs nor Boyle would merit any criticism should the aforementioned part ways this summer. I just hope that if he does go, he has enough ambition and self belief to back himself to go down south. I would hate seeing him at another Scottish club.

I agree with all of that. I have a horrible, sneaking suspicion that he's going to stay in Scotland, though.

[JimBHibees]

What’s wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

He’d be a great signing for them. The fact he’d be coming from Hibs doesn’t make that not the case.

Agree very surprised they didn't try and get him this season. Would have made a difference them imo

[Jim44]

Why don’t you believe it?

You really think The Sun favour St J over Hibs?!

:hmmm: Where to start? Certainly not based on their well established principles of in-depth journalistic expertise and moral sense of truth.
Secondly, where did I say they favoured St Johnstone? I’ve never even considered who the rag favours but I would hazard a guess that a St Johnstone win, with the resultant mileage in them winning both cups, would sell more papers and attract more clicks on their website.

[Spike Mandela]

If he has a release clause, whatever value, any prospective buyer would be entitled to that information anyway. If they are prepared to pay more than that to get ahead of the crowd that is up to them but more likely in an auction most clubs would stick to any buy out clause and offer the player more.

[TheGreenMan]

I agree with all of that. I have a horrible, sneaking suspicion that he's going to stay in Scotland, though.

He's an Aberdeen fan isn't he?

Lets hope nothing agreed and he uses the cup final as a showcase to all clubs watching and goes out and wins it for us with one of the performances he's capable of

[Hibbyradge]

:hmmm: Where to start? Certainly not based on their well established principles of in-depth journalistic expertise and moral sense of truth.
Secondly, where did I say they favoured St Johnstone? I’ve never even considered who the rag favours but I would hazard a guess that a St Johnstone win, with the resultant mileage in them winning both cups, would sell more papers and attract more clicks on their website.

What harm has the leak done to our chances on Saturday? Presumably Boyle knows what his terms for resigning with Hibs were.

Why haven't Hibs leaked to a friendly journalist that it's not true?

It might be the case that a club has made an approach to Boyle's agent with a speculative offer. The agent wants to get more for his client, so leaks the info about the clause.

I don't think the Sun has made it up to sell more papers if St Johnstone win a double. They won't sell any more regardless of who wins.

[Smartie]

Boyle owes us nothing.

I’d be gutted to see him go, especially is he ended up at one of the clubs we don’t like, but surely nobody begrudges him a decent last pay day, especially if we got a sum of money for him roughly equivalent to the amount we’ll have paid him for a couple of years?

Pound for pound he’s up there with our best signings, and taking into account the way he arrived at the club, he’s ultimately turned out to be the player that Alex Harris should have been.

Would love it if he stayed and I think we actually underplay his importance to our side, but I’d be surprised if he did.

[loanheadhibby]

What’s wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

He’d be a great signing for them. The fact he’d be coming from Hibs doesn’t make that not the case.

Absolutely nothing wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs if that's the level of player Celtic are looking at. Is he better than Mickey Johnson or James Forrest? Possibly slightly better. More reasonably on a par. Will he improve Celtic? Possibly.

Is he better than Kent at Ranger? Absolutely not.

My point is, if signing players from Hibs is Eddie Howes master plan, he might come across a few issues. Surely his MO will be to get players Like Kent/Harry Wilson and improve them to such an extent, Celtic sell them for 10-15 million further down the line.

I just don't see Boyle ever getting to that level.

As I say, Boyle has been a good servant, if there is a reasonable offer then take the money and run. He's been a decent player for the Hibs but we may need to cash in rather than lose him for nothing in a year.

[loanheadhibby]

I definitely would prefer he doesn’t leave. However, he’s proven himself to be a very effective player at this level... I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Celtc were interested.

I think everyone would agree we don't want him to leave, however, as you say he has proved himself at this level. He is only to get slower as his age/injuries will inevitably catch up with him. If we get a reasonable offer, take the money (hopefully from a club down south).

I compare Martin Boyle to Darren Jackson (altho Jackson was a better player for Hibs). Jackson was dynamite for Hibs and went to Glasgow for a good fee. Maybe had 1 or 2 good season at Celtic but a lot of their fans thought he was Joe Average whereas at Hibs, he was a superstar.

[JeMeSouviens]

Absolutely nothing wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs if that's the level of player Celtic are looking at. Is he better than Mickey Johnson or James Forrest? Possibly slightly better. More reasonably on a par. Will he improve Celtic? Possibly.

Is he better than Kent at Ranger? Absolutely not.

My point is, if signing players from Hibs is Eddie Howes master plan, he might come across a few issues. Surely his MO will be to get players Like Kent/Harry Wilson and improve them to such an extent, Celtic sell them for 10-15 million further down the line.

I just don't see Boyle ever getting to that level.

As I say, Boyle has been a good servant, if there is a reasonable offer then take the money and run. He's been a decent player for the Hibs but we may need to cash in rather than lose him for nothing in a year.

At 500K (assuming for a moment the Sun is remotely accurate for once), that's surely much more of a finely balanced question than selling someone on usually is for us? Any replacement at that money or less would be a gamble.

If Martin is open to staying another year, I think we should keep him, if he wants away then sell.

[Not In The Know]

He may well get a relatively big money contract if he moves but playing wise he'd be better staying put.

If he goes to the championship I can see him making a few starts - maybe even scoring, then a few substitute appearances then he'll be sent out o loan. Within 18 months he'll probably be back in Scotland playing for St Johnstone or someone.


i think you are being a bit harsh on him there. Take him out our team and we would struggle big time over a season.

[superfurryhibby]

Absolutely nothing wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs if that's the level of player Celtic are looking at. Is he better than Mickey Johnson or James Forrest? Possibly slightly better. More reasonably on a par. Will he improve Celtic? Possibly.

Is he better than Kent at Ranger? Absolutely not.

My point is, if signing players from Hibs is Eddie Howes master plan, he might come across a few issues. Surely his MO will be to get players Like Kent/Harry Wilson and improve them to such an extent, Celtic sell them for 10-15 million further down the line.

I just don't see Boyle ever getting to that level.

As I say, Boyle has been a good servant, if there is a reasonable offer then take the money and run. He's been a decent player for the Hibs but we may need to cash in rather than lose him for nothing in a year.

I wouldn't be all that quick to buy into the Ryan Kent, supreme player stuff. Aye, he's good at SPFL level. 128 games for the Hun, 28 goals. Beyond that he's still relatively untested. I would argue that James Forrest has proven himself effective at a higher level than Kent, yet you say Boyle is possibly better than him?

What is clear is that Boyle would have improved Celtic this season, although personally, I don't give a fig about Celtic's signing strategy under a manager who has yet to be confirmed as even having the job.

[Peevemor]

i think you are being a bit harsh on him there. Take him out our team and we would struggle big time over a season.

I agree, but I think he'd have a tougher time against Championship defenders.

[Since90+2]

Absolutely nothing wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs if that's the level of player Celtic are looking at. Is he better than Mickey Johnson or James Forrest? Possibly slightly better. More reasonably on a par. Will he improve Celtic? Possibly.

Is he better than Kent at Ranger? Absolutely not.

My point is, if signing players from Hibs is Eddie Howes master plan, he might come across a few issues. Surely his MO will be to get players Like Kent/Harry Wilson and improve them to such an extent, Celtic sell them for 10-15 million further down the line.

I just don't see Boyle ever getting to that level.

As I say, Boyle has been a good servant, if there is a reasonable offer then take the money and run. He's been a decent player for the Hibs but we may need to cash in rather than lose him for nothing in a year.

James Forrest is a better player than Boyle.

[MWHIBBIES]

If he has a release clause, whatever value, any prospective buyer would be entitled to that information anyway. If they are prepared to pay more than that to get ahead of the crowd that is up to them but more likely in an auction most clubs would stick to any buy out clause and offer the player more.

You can't get ahead of the crowd. Any bid of 500k would be accepted, then it's up to the player. Bidding 5 million is the same as 500k.

[blackpoolhibs]

James Forrest is a better player than Boyle.

I'd say the opposite.

[Smartie]

Where is James Forrest these days?

Did Lewis Stevenson get to keep him or something?

[Since90+2]

Where is James Forrest these days?

Did Lewis Stevenson get to keep him or something?

Think he's been injured for pretty much the entire season. Will still likely make the Scotland squad IMO.

[Rumble de Thump]

What harm has the leak done to our chances on Saturday? Presumably Boyle knows what his terms for resigning with Hibs were.

Why haven't Hibs leaked to a friendly journalist that it's not true?

It might be the case that a club has made an approach to Boyle's agent with a speculative offer. The agent wants to get more for his client, so leaks the info about the clause.

I don't think the Sun has made it up to sell more papers if St Johnstone win a double. They won't sell any more regardless of who wins.

I wouldn't expect Hibs to share private details about employee contracts with journalists. And the result of the final is surely irrelevant to The Sun. They'll already have gained a few more clicks on their website and sold a few more newspapers by running the story. It may well be true, but The Sun happens to be one of the least trustworthy newspapers in the UK, writing a story about private information without disclosing a source.

[Hibbyradge]

At 500K (assuming for a moment the Sun is remotely accurate for once), that's surely much more of a finely balanced question than selling someone on usually is for us? Any replacement at that money or less would be a gamble.

If Martin is open to staying another year, I think we should keep him, if he wants away then sell.

It's a consideration though.

£500k is a decent signing on fee plus wages for a lot of months on top of what we already pay Martin Boyle.

Plus, how long do we expect "peak Boyle" to last? Someone commented that Gareth Bale is a shadow of the player he was and he's only 2 years older than MB.

These things are never as straightforward as fans think. Certainly not "no brainers".

[Hibbyradge]

I wouldn't expect Hibs to share private details about employee contracts with journalists. And the result of the final is surely irrelevant to The Sun. They'll already have gained a few more clicks on their website and sold a few more newspapers by running the story. It may well be true, but The Sun happens to be one of the least trustworthy newspapers in the UK, writing a story about private information without disclosing a source.

Telling a journalist that a story isn't true isn't leaking personal details.

[Billy Whizz]

Martin is represented by this company
His valuation in here is a lot more than £500k

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fullninety-sports-management/beraterfirma/berater/3518

[where'stheslope]

Agent leaks the buy-out price to the press, the club ups the anti to keep him or lose him for £500k, agent rubs his hands, job done!!!!!
Only person winning in this is the agent, its the usual football merry-go- round!!!

[MyJo]

Agent leaks the buy-out price to the press, the club ups the anti to keep him or lose him for £500k, agent rubs his hands, job done!!!!!
Only person winning in this is the agent, its the usual football merry-go- round!!!

Or his agent is sounding out possible moves for him in the summer and has made Celtic and/or Rangers aware that they could get him for £500k if they wanted to sign him and the leak of this information has come from them rather than from the agent or anyone on Hibs side.

[JeMeSouviens]

It's a consideration though.

£500k is a decent signing on fee plus wages for a lot of months on top of what we already pay Martin Boyle.

Plus, how long do we expect "peak Boyle" to last? Someone commented that Gareth Bale is a shadow of the player he was and he's only 2 years older than MB.

These things are never as straightforward as fans think. Certainly not "no brainers".

I did say it was a finely balanced question. :wink:

Take your points, but I think it's a fairly safe bet MB will be peak MB for at least another year. And if we win on Saturday, it could be a very significant year for us when we'll need a bigger, stronger squad than we have now.

[AgentDaleCooper]

I reckon he might do a johnny hayes type thing - pop over to glasgow for a season or two for a pay day, come back here on loan in Jan 2023, then see it his career back in leith.

[JeMeSouviens]

Does Mrs Boyle still play for the women's team?

[Smartie]

It's a consideration though.

£500k is a decent signing on fee plus wages for a lot of months on top of what we already pay Martin Boyle.

Plus, how long do we expect "peak Boyle" to last? Someone commented that Gareth Bale is a shadow of the player he was and he's only 2 years older than MB.

These things are never as straightforward as fans think. Certainly not "no brainers".

Bale's problems have mainly originated from the space between his ears. Overpaid, poor attitude, lost the desire and hunger to actually prove himself.

You'd be better looking at Cristiano Ronaldo or Zlatan as a comparison - if the attitude is right then players can overcome serious injuries and they can play at a cracking level for a long time.

Problems come if there have been too many injuries, if the desire isn't there, or if there isn't enough about the player's game other than blinding pace.

I think Boyle's got a reasonable number of seasons before he's going to have to adjust his game, further injuries forbidding.

[MrRobot]

Would take it with a pinch of salt if it’s coming from the sun.

People on here have spoken recently about how he might have a clause similar to that of the one Cummings had and it’s most likely some lazy journalist making a story out of heresay based on that.

[Since452]

If we win the Scottish Cup as well as finishing 3rd then sticking on a buy out clause on his new contract to help convince him to stay would be one of the best decisions we've made.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Can we just have a combined thread "Tabloid nonsense in the run up to Cup Final"?

Or Tabloid Bingo?

- The Cup Final Eve/Morning Revelation
- Shenanigans questioning Ron's commitment to the club
- Kano sticks his oar in
- Jack Ross to leave in the summer
- Scott Allan has played his last game for Hibs
- 'Love Rat' scandal of some player doing the dirty on his partner whilst she was pregnant
- Exclusive revelation of a player who will be outed
- Drink Drive Charge
- COVID Bubble breach questions whether mystery star player can play in the final
- Sheik Mahandi ditches Newcastle and is lining up a bid for the club

[delbert]

According to the Sun, Martin has a buy-out clause of £500,000 so we wouldn`t be getting big money for him.

Mind you, it`s in the Sun and I haven`t clicked on the link for it as the Sun can go **** themselves

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57145344

Have to say, I’ve never really understood the anti Sun agenda on here and I’m well aware of Hillsborough. On a pure information basis, they are normally pretty spot on with this type of stuff, just because you don’t like the story doesn’t make it untrue, and it’s not unheard of in agreeing to sign a deal is that one of the conditions of resigning a contract is a buyout clause which isn’t prohibitive to a prospective club which the player sees as a career progression, it’s happened to us before, think it was Jason Cummings.

[Shrekko]

I agree, but I think he'd have a tougher time against Championship defenders.

Regardless, I can see no reason for you assuming he would fail after a short time and end up at a club like St Johnstone? Far poorer players have gone down there and done well and Boyle's work-rate and skill-set means he can be played in a variety of positions. I'd say he could do very well in the Championship.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Does Mrs Boyle still play for the women's team?

Yeah, she is probably the star player in the side now. Instrumental in our victory over Motherwell last time out.

[Peevemor]

Regardless, I can see no reason for you assuming he would fail after a short time and end up at a club like St Johnstone? Far poorer players have gone down there and done well and Boyle's work-rate and skill-set means he can be played in a variety of positions. I'd say he could do very well in the Championship.

If he moves on (and it's not to a rival) I wish him nothing but the best and I honestly hope he proves me wrong. It's just a feeling I have, that's all.

[The Spaceman]

He could have basically left for nothing had he not signed it. Great bit of business by us as he’s helped drive us to third place, three semi finals and the forthcoming Scottish Cup Final. If he wins that with us, he can go absolutely anywhere he likes with my blessing for £500,000 (if that is buy-out).

[GRA]

Can we just have a combined thread "Tabloid nonsense in the run up to Cup Final"?

Or Tabloid Bingo?

- The Cup Final Eve/Morning Revelation
- Shenanigans questioning Ron's commitment to the club
- Kano sticks his oar in
- Jack Ross to leave in the summer
- Scott Allan has played his last game for Hibs
- 'Love Rat' scandal of some player doing the dirty on his partner whilst she was pregnant
- Exclusive revelation of a player who will be outed
- Drink Drive Charge
- COVID Bubble breach questions whether mystery star player can play in the final
- Sheik Mahandi ditches Newcastle and is lining up a bid for the club

My thoughts exactly. How convenient stories like this just happen to be making the tabloid headlines a few days before we play in the cup final :I'm waiti

[Irish_Steve]

Have to say, I’ve never really understood the anti Sun agenda on here and I’m well aware of Hillsborough. On a pure information basis, they are normally pretty spot on with this type of stuff, just because you don’t like the story doesn’t make it untrue, and it’s not unheard of in agreeing to sign a deal is that one of the conditions of resigning a contract is a buyout clause which isn’t prohibitive to a prospective club which the player sees as a career progression, it’s happened to us before, think it was Jason Cummings.

I didn't say I didnt like the story, I dont like the Sun. Their "reporting" after Hillsborough was nothing more than scandalous and the sooner the go under, the better

[green day]

Have to say, I’ve never really understood the anti Sun agenda on here and I’m well aware of Hillsborough.

Because it took them 23 years to admit these lies and it was only because it was irrefutable - they are and always will be **** and not only on Merseyside

https://i.imgur.com/7lt3OpO.png

[bigwheel]

Have to say, I’ve never really understood the anti Sun agenda on here and I’m well aware of Hillsborough. On a pure information basis, they are normally pretty spot on with this type of stuff, just because you don’t like the story doesn’t make it untrue, and it’s not unheard of in agreeing to sign a deal is that one of the conditions of resigning a contract is a buyout clause which isn’t prohibitive to a prospective club which the player sees as a career progression, it’s happened to us before, think it was Jason Cummings.

Other than Hilsborough, phone hacking and almost no morals when it comes to the type of stories they write and how they find them ...?? Sure their sports coverage may well be decent , but should we not hold them to account for the hate and pain they have caused ?

[Centre Hawf]

Have to say, I’ve never really understood the anti Sun agenda on here and I’m well aware of Hillsborough. On a pure information basis, they are normally pretty spot on with this type of stuff, just because you don’t like the story doesn’t make it untrue, and it’s not unheard of in agreeing to sign a deal is that one of the conditions of resigning a contract is a buyout clause which isn’t prohibitive to a prospective club which the player sees as a career progression, it’s happened to us before, think it was Jason Cummings.

Have to agree. Especially up here in Scotland the journalists and players/agents etc all talk to each other. It's always interesting to me to see fans lap up news about their club about to make an ambitious signing but then slate the same outlet for suggesting their own players could possibly leave.

I can't see how in any way the buy out clause chat is made up by The Scottish Sun, and I also don't believe for a second it's been timed for the final etc. It'll have been relayed by his agent within the last few days to the Journalist and any attempt to sit on that information would have ran the risk of being used by the Daily Record or the Evening News etc.

It's a very normal thing to happen when a player in the last year of their contract. Martin has done us a favour by signing that deal and getting us £500k when he could have just let it run down and got us zero.

I have a feeling he's away and we already know that anyway, that's why I think we were quick to snap up the Inverness lad once their season wrapped up. He sounds like an almost like for like replacement for Boyle in terms of attributes (albeit we'll need to see if he has that quality Boyle has still).

[shetlandhibee]

Regardless, I can see no reason for you assuming he would fail after a short time and end up at a club like St Johnstone? Far poorer players have gone down there and done well and Boyle's work-rate and skill-set means he can be played in a variety of positions. I'd say he could do very well in the Championship.
:top marksabsolutely our best most exciting player by a bit this season full aussie internationalist would do a job for any championship team IMO as well:agree:

[Rumble de Thump]

Have to agree. Especially up here in Scotland the journalists and players/agents etc all talk to each other. It's always interesting to me to see fans lap up news about their club about to make an ambitious signing but then slate the same outlet for suggesting their own players could possibly leave.

I can't see how in any way the buy out clause chat is made up by The Scottish Sun, and I also don't believe for a second it's been timed for the final etc. It'll have been relayed by his agent within the last few days to the Journalist and any attempt to sit on that information would have ran the risk of being used by the Daily Record or the Evening News etc.

It's a very normal thing to happen when a player in the last year of their contract. Martin has done us a favour by signing that deal and getting us £500k when he could have just let it run down and got us zero.

I have a feeling he's away and we already know that anyway, that's why I think we were quick to snap up the Inverness lad once their season wrapped up. He sounds like an almost like for like replacement for Boyle in terms of attributes (albeit we'll need to see if he has that quality Boyle has still).

Surely if you can imagine that an agent has fed a journalist a story a few days ago you could also manage to imagine that a tabloid journalist has made up a news story about a footballer. They both seem possible.

[Centre Hawf]

Surely if you can imagine that an agent has fed a journalist a story a few days ago you could also manage to imagine that a tabloid journalist has made up a news story about a footballer. They both seem possible.

It’s fairly common for agents to feed journalists stories. For a variety of reasons. Believe it or not it’s not actually in a journalist’s interest to make up stories about players when their livelihood can depend in their reputation.

Majority of the guys you read in The Sun don’t work for them. They sell stories to various newspapers. If they get a reputation for doing what you suggest they don’t make money.

[Rumble de Thump]

It’s fairly common for agents to feed journalists stories. For a variety of reasons. Believe it or not it’s not actually in a journalist’s interest to make up stories about players when their livelihood can depend in their reputation.

Majority of the guys you read in The Sun don’t work for them. They sell stories to various newspapers. If they get a reputation for doing what you suggest they don’t make money.

It's a strange one because the newspaper and the people who write for it actually have got a reputation and they're all making money. As an editor once said to me "you can make up anything you want as long as it's something nobody would ever think to question". Some agents will likely give journalists information. There are also journalists who make things up and the types of publications that publish those type of stories are well known. It just seems odd that anyone wouldn't even entertain that possibility with a newspaper that's renowned for it.

[Hibbyradge]

I did say it was a finely balanced question. :wink:

Take your points, but I think it's a fairly safe bet MB will be peak MB for at least another year. And if we win on Saturday, it could be a very significant year for us when we'll need a bigger, stronger squad than we have now.

I agree. My point about how long he'd be at his peak was to illustrate that any team investing in him, won't be getting a top winger for more than a couple of years, so how much do they spend on him?

The cost to Hibs of keeping MB would be his salary plus the £500k we'd miss out on. That's going to be around £1m over 2 years. Is he worth that mmuch to us?

I've not explained that very well, sorry.

[Jones28]

What’s wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

He’d be a great signing for them. The fact he’d be coming from Hibs doesn’t make that not the case.

I don’t think Celtic fans would be too happy with that. They will want someone who comes with more prestige than MB. He would be a good signing for them yes, but I don’t think the fans would be fully behind it.

[Centre Hawf]

It's a strange one because the newspaper and the people who write for it actually have got a reputation and they're all making money. As an editor once said to me "you can make up anything you want as long as it's something nobody would ever think to question". Some agents will likely give journalists information. There are also journalists who make things up and the types of publications that publish those type of stories are well known. It just seems odd that anyone wouldn't even entertain that possibility with a newspaper that's renowned for it.

I think its fair to question anything. My original point was more that people are quite happy to believe positive transfer rumours but will call into question someone’s professionalism when there’s something they don’t like. Especially when it’s quite a reasonable story.

[w pilton hibby]

Martin Boyle rubbishes Hibs transfer speculation as he makes Scottish Cup ambition admission

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/martin-boyle-rubbishes-hibs-transfer-20625935

[Hibbyradge]

It's a strange one because the newspaper and the people who write for it actually have got a reputation and they're all making money. As an editor once said to me "you can make up anything you want as long as it's something nobody would ever think to question". Some agents will likely give journalists information. There are also journalists who make things up and the types of publications that publish those type of stories are well known. It just seems odd that anyone wouldn't even entertain that possibility with a newspaper that's renowned for it.

It would be such a stupid thing to make up if the next headline might say something like "Hibs reject/accept £1m bid for Martin Boyle". All the clubs will know if it's true or not as will Hibs and Martin Boyle.

There's also absolutely no reason for them to make it up.

[Rumble de Thump]

It would be such a stupid thing to make up if the next headline might say something like "Hibs reject/accept £1m bid for Martin Boyle". All the clubs will know if it's true or not as will Hibs and Martin Boyle.

There's also absolutely no reason for them to make it up.

The most obvious possible reason would be the reason why most news stories would be made up. To make money. And in your scenario they would have got two headlines out of it. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. I have no idea if it's true or not. I just find it interesting how people's minds work :greengrin

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Boyle's class. He's winning us the Cup. The law of attraction, I've been saying that for weeks

If he wins the cup I'll drive him to whatever club he wants

[mjhibby]

Don’t think it would be the agent that would have leaked anything as agents talk to each other all the time and will be fully aware of most contract situations. Lots of things of this story just don’t ring true. Why would Boyle/ hibs put it at such a low figure. What about the fact he has a young family and his wife plays for hibs. Are they really wanting to up sticks including his other half. Even if the figure is true why make it public now and not wait till after the final. I think it’s obvious why is it not.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Don’t think it would be the agent that would have leaked anything as agents talk to each other all the time and will be fully aware of most contract situations. Lots of things of this story just don’t ring true. Why would Boyle/ hibs put it at such a low figure. What about the fact he has a young family and his wife plays for hibs. Are they really wanting to up sticks including his other half. Even if the figure is true why make it public now and not wait till after the final. I think it’s obvious why is it not.

This is bang on agree.

[Hibbyradge]

I just find it interesting how people's minds work :greengrin

Yes, that really is fascinating.

[jacomo]

I don’t think Celtic fans would be too happy with that. They will want someone who comes with more prestige than MB. He would be a good signing for them yes, but I don’t think the fans would be fully behind it.


This is just wild speculation now but... Celtc have a big rebuilding job to do this summer.

Would their supporters be happy if Boyle was their only signing? No of course not. If he was among six or so new faces? Why not? He’s a very good player.

Although, as you say, Celtc supporters have an inflated view of their club and everything to do with it, so they’ll probably be expecting a lot.

[O'Rourke3]

I don’t think Celtic fans would be too happy with that. They will want someone who comes with more prestige than MB. He would be a good signing for them yes, but I don’t think the fans would be fully behind it.The Celtic fans were almost united in wondering why Celtic paid money for Scott Brown. They are as bad as their Goven mates at not knowing a decent player until 4 seasons in and have conveniently rewritten their opinions.

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[Smartie]

This is just wild speculation now but... Celtc have a big rebuilding job to do this summer.

Would their supporters be happy if Boyle was their only signing? No of course not. If he was among six or so new faces? Why not? He’s a very good player.

Although, as you say, Celtc supporters have an inflated view of their club and everything to do with it, so they’ll probably be expecting a lot.

They have staggering levels of delusion and amongst all sorts of other things their pride has been hurt by this season's Sevco success.

Whilst it should always good to sign good players - especially on a budget - I think their egos need massaged with some bigger money arrivals, just to prove their bigliness relative to their rivals.

It's not just about what happens on the park with them at the moment, every little bit of one-upmanship counts. Boyle wouldn't provide that, even if he did provide goals and assists.


Speaking to their fans about their managerial position is f'ing hilarious.

They might not have trashed Glasgow on Saturday but they're still erseholes.

[gbhibby]

He might end up at Brighton.

[Shrekko]

I agree. My point about how long he'd be at his peak was to illustrate that any team investing in him, won't be getting a top winger for more than a couple of years, so how much do they spend on him?

The cost to Hibs of keeping MB would be his salary plus the £500k we'd miss out on. That's going to be around £1m over 2 years. Is he worth that mmuch to us?

I've not explained that very well, sorry.

You’ve said previously how keeping him this season has basically helped make us a lot of money ... so why wouldn’t that be the case going forward?

I’m also not sure why people are assuming he only has a couple of years left as a top player at this level? Players are generally lasting longer these days and many keep their speed for a long time ... and he’s FAR from just a speed merchant.

[CMurdoch]

I don’t think Celtic fans would be too happy with that. They will want someone who comes with more prestige than MB. He would be a good signing for them yes, but I don’t think the fans would be fully behind it.

Martino Boylini
Would that help?

[Wilson]

Martino Boylini
Would that help?

Lo scoiattolo

[loanheadhibby]

What’s wrong with signing Martin Boyle from Hibs?

He’d be a great signing for them. The fact he’d be coming from Hibs doesn’t make that not the case.
Because Celtic need better than Martin Boyle if they're going to mount a serious challenge to Rangers.

[Smartie]

Because Celtic need better than Martin Boyle if they're going to mount a serious challenge to Rangers.

Boyle is proven at this level. At worst he'd be very handy backup for other, better players. They might need better quality for their European games but he'd be a great option to help them rotate their squad and rest legs when it comes to picking the three points up in Dingwall 3 days after those big games.

He's good enough to do that, and they didn't have players who could do that last season.

[Cat Stanton]

He seems very, very happy at Hibs:

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/martin-boyle-speaks-out-on-contract-buy-out-clause-and-what-that-means-for-his-hibs-future-3241791

[JimBHibees]

Because Celtic need better than Martin Boyle if they're going to mount a serious challenge to Rangers.

Think he might have been a better option this season as opposed to Forrest who played about three games.

[JimBHibees]

Boyle is proven at this level. At worst he'd be very handy backup for other, better players. They might need better quality for their European games but he'd be a great option to help them rotate their squad and rest legs when it comes to picking the three points up in Dingwall 3 days after those big games.

He's good enough to do that, and they didn't have players who could do that last season.

Totally agree

[JimBHibees]

Have to say, I’ve never really understood the anti Sun agenda on here and I’m well aware of Hillsborough. On a pure information basis, they are normally pretty spot on with this type of stuff, just because you don’t like the story doesn’t make it untrue, and it’s not unheard of in agreeing to sign a deal is that one of the conditions of resigning a contract is a buyout clause which isn’t prohibitive to a prospective club which the player sees as a career progression, it’s happened to us before, think it was Jason Cummings.

Because their editorial stance has in my lifetime been very right wing and kind of represents that white van man anti immigrant mindset which led to brexit. Have proven to have lied on many occasions including most disgustingly at hillsborough.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Boyle is more than good enough for Celtic. Mad to suggest otherwise.

He has came out and said all the right things, but in my heart and head I think he will be off in the summer. If not through West, then another club down South. I just hope he goes with another Medal.

Would be delighted if he stays right enough! A proper Hibs player - gets you off your seat when on the ball, direct, and a wee bit daft! :flag:

[Hibbyradge]

You’ve said previously how keeping him this season has basically helped make us a lot of money ... so why wouldn’t that be the case going forward?

I’m also not sure why people are assuming he only has a couple of years left as a top player at this level? Players are generally lasting longer these days and many keep their speed for a long time ... and he’s FAR from just a speed merchant.

It might be the case and he might be worth investing £1m in. I'm merely pointing out that it's not as straightforward a decision as people might like to think.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

It might be the case and he might be worth investing £1m in. I'm merely pointing out that it's not as straightforward a decision as people might like to think.

Gotta ask ourselves, would we be able to pick up a player on the market as good as Boyle for that price. I doubt it. :agree:

[MWHIBBIES]

Boyle is more than good enough for Celtic. Mad to suggest otherwise.

He has came out and said all the right things, but in my heart and head I think he will be off in the summer. If not through West, then another club down South. I just hope he goes with another Medal.

Would be delighted if he stays right enough! A proper Hibs player - gets you off your seat when on the ball, direct, and a wee bit daft! :flag:

I think this is his level. I don't think he'd get a game for the old firm.

[superfurryhibby]

I think this is his level. I don't think he'd get a game for the old firm.

Disagree. The Old Firm also play their football at this level, with the occasional foray into Europe. He's a proven high end SPFL player and it's a squad game etc, etc.

[Cat Stanton]

Because their editorial stance has in my lifetime been very right wing and kind of represents that white van man anti immigrant mindset which led to brexit. Have proven to have lied on many occasions including most disgustingly at hillsborough.

Well said, sir. Revolting publication.

[bingo70]

Gotta ask ourselves, would we be able to pick up a player on the market as good as Boyle. I doubt it. :agree:

In terms of the question about him being good enough for Celtic. Hypothetically speaking as it’d never happen but if we were offered a straight swap for James Forrest I think Celtic would be getting the better deal.

[oneone73]

Gotta ask ourselves, would we be able to pick up a player on the market as good as Boyle. I doubt it. :agree:

We have already signed Boyle's replacement.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

We have already signed Boyle's replacement.

I guess we will find out in the next few months if Mackay is a replacement, or an addition. I hope it's the latter.

He will be doing well if he turns out to be as good a player for the Hibs that Boyler has been.

[Hibbyradge]

He seems very, very happy at Hibs:

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/martin-boyle-speaks-out-on-contract-buy-out-clause-and-what-that-means-for-his-hibs-future-3241791

He does, and it's never been said that anyone has made an offer for him, but that article confirms the buy-out clause exists.

"Martin Boyle speaks out on contract buy-out clause and what that means for his Hibs future | Edinburgh News" https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/martin-boyle-speaks-out-on-contract-buy-out-clause-and-what-that-means-for-his-hibs-future-3241791?amp

[Billy Whizz]

The sun still peddling the same story

[Hibbyradge]

The sun still peddling the same story

It's not so much that their story is wrong, it's not, it's just the angle they put on it.

They're saying "Boyle could leave Hibs", but at the moment, it's just as true that "Boyle could stay at Hibs".