Well Done Jack Ross

[Since452]

Not often have we finished 3rd in my lifetime. Away win record and just missing our record points total. Also in the Scottish Cup final.

Just think the state we were in when he took over. Incredible.

[AliboyFC]

Hoping we get third next season aswell.

[Jim44]

Hoping we get third next season aswell.

Unless I am missing something, that is a strange comment.

[Hibeewilly]

Not often have we finished 3rd in my lifetime. Away win record and just missing our record points total. Also in the Scottish Cup final.

Just think the state we were in when he took over. Incredible.
Credit where credit is due ........well done Jack:agree:

[AliboyFC]

Unless I am missing something, that is a strange comment.

Nah it would just be class if got 3rd next season aswell.

[hibbysam]

Just keeps reeling off big game wins, outstanding manager.

[davy67 +]

Best of the rest, and a cup final too . Well done all

[calumhibee1]

A huge well done from me.

We’ve really kicked on since Christmas and look a much better team than we did before it. First half of the season we seemed to have a knack of winning games that could have went either way imo which made it feel like we wouldn’t be able to keep it going.

Since January though we’ve shown what we’re all about. One final push in the final. This squad deserves to win something and deserves a crack at European group stage football.

[AliboyFC]

Credit where credit is due ........well done Jack:agree:


Nah it would just be class if got 3rd next season aswell.

Third biggest club in Scotland GGTTH 💚🤍🇳🇬

[WhileTheChief..]

He’s been brilliant for us.

If we win the cup we will look back at this as the start of a golden period hopefully.

Enjoying every minute of it. It doesn’t get much better than this.

[Jim44]

Hoping we get third next season aswell.

Unless I am missing something, that is a strange comment.

[Pretty Boy]

He's a manager it's taken me a while to warm to. I'm not sure why, I think part of it is because I haven't actually seen his team very often and partly because we have thrown in a few stinking performance and results under him.

There is no arguing that teams end up where they deserve to be over the course of a season though and a semi final, a final and 3rd place is an excellent return by any measure. It could get a fair bit better yet as well.

It's been a tough and unique season for us as fans and I'm sure that is true for the managers and players as well. Jack Ross has led us to a place we haven't been in too long and should be far more often. He deserves all the praise in the world for that.

[MunsterHibee]

Who would hsve thought at the start of the season we'd finish 3rd and possibly win The Scottish Cup. Could be an historic season if we win the Cup Final.

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[SlickShoes]

Our 5th third place finish in the last 45 years, and first for 16 years.

It has been a successful season whatever way you look at it, we are in a great position to kick on next season AND this season could still get even better.

[Shrekko]

We were an absolute shambles when this guy took over, with a squad of players who couldn’t see out a game if their life depended on it.

I think Jack Ross is the most under rated manager in our history.

If we sometimes win ugly - is it not infinitely preferable to losing games like this? ....which we did regularly before.

Let’s get this cup!

[AliboyFC]

Who would hsve thought at the start of the season we'd finish 3rd and possibly win The Scottish Cup. Could be an historic season if we win the Cup Final.

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I had a good feeling about this season ngl.

[Crunchie]

Not often have we finished 3rd in my lifetime. Away win record and just missing our record points total. Also in the Scottish Cup final.

Just think the state we were in when he took over. Incredible.
And to think someone actually started a poll to get him out :confused:, mind you they did the same to Stubbsy the legend, I'll never understand some fans.
Hopefully the man is with us a long long time.

[Jim44]

Unless I am missing something, that is a strange comment.

I don’t know how this popped up again, but why settle for third? If we can retain and build on this squad, 2nd isn’t impossible. Remember, Celtic are a mess and will be rebuilding drastically. Too early to settle for best of the rest.

[uwxm07]

Well my third place bet paid out and my 12-1 cup bet is looking like an investment .!

[bingo70]

Well done to Paul Heckingbottom for laying the foundations for this success 😉


Jokes, well done to Jack Ross, I’ve been known to talk pish about him this season, he’s certainly shown me up for the idiot I am though. Great job done, hope we can hold on to him now as inevitable teams will be noticing his success with us.

[beensaidbefore]

To get a win in Aberdeen to deal 3rd place is a great result. Hopefully this gives him, and the squad, confidence that they can handle the big games when it matters.

Well done Jack Ross for getting us 3rd. Let's hope he has what it take to write is name in our history books.

[Stevie Reid]

Was delighted when we got him and what an appointment it’s turned out to be. There have been bumps on the way but we have always recovered quickly, and come back stronger.

I was hugely excited at the end of the Lennon season, but we knew that that team was losing two hugely important players in SJM and Dylan.

Can’t wait to see where we go from here 💚

[B.H.F.C]

Who would hsve thought at the start of the season we'd finish 3rd and possibly win The Scottish Cup. Could be an historic season if we win the Cup Final.

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To be fair, I think JR and the players believed it because he’s spoken enough about third and a cup win being the target. Seems they had a bit more belief than quite a lot of fans, me included.

At the start of the season I thought we were a stick on to finish top four because we actually invested in players in a way other teams just couldn’t. I wasn’t sure beyond that though. With the exception of the odd shocker, I think we’ve reacted really well to the St Johnstone semi final.

Need to go and win this cup now.

[The Spaceman]

Best coach in the past 20 years. Get us the Scottish Cup this season and it’ll be one of our greatest ever seasons. We also look like we have very solid foundations to build upon now too so have real potential to strengthen our grip on third and the cups. Exciting times.

[Stanton Spence]

Well done to Paul Heckingbottom for laying the foundations for this success [emoji6]


Jokes, well done to Jack Ross, I’ve been known to talk pish about him this season, he’s certainly shown me up for the idiot I am though. Great job done, hope we can hold on to him now as inevitable teams will be noticing his success with us.Well done bingo [emoji12]
Nothing better than hibs proving you wrong [emoji1184]

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[WhileTheChief..]

Well done to Paul Heckingbottom for laying the foundations for this success 😉


:grr: Don’t remind us.

[Peevemor]

To be fair, I think JR and the players believed it because he’s spoken enough about third and a cup win being the target. Seems they had a bit more belief than quite a lot of fans, me included.

At the start of the season I thought we were a stick on to finish top four because we actually invested in players in a way other teams just couldn’t. I wasn’t sure beyond that though. With the exception of the odd shocker, I think we’ve reacted really well to the St Johnstone semi final.

Need to go and win this cup now.Yep, Ron put his money where his mouth is and JR has shown that he merits the backing.

[tonyrougier123]

Incredible to get third over the line!
Game management spot on👊
Well done to Ross ,an amazing achievement in its own right.
Players looked hungry tonight maybe davie provan will leave them a piece of his fedora😂

[Kaff]

He's a manager it's taken me a while to warm to. I'm not sure why, I think part of it is because I haven't actually seen his team very often and partly because we have thrown in a few stinking performance and results under him.

There is no arguing that teams end up where they deserve to be over the course of a season though and a semi final, a final and 3rd place is an excellent return by any measure. It could get a fair bit better yet as well.

It's been a tough and unique season for us as fans and I'm sure that is true for the managers and players as well. Jack Ross has led us to a place we haven't been in too long and should be far more often. He deserves all the praise in the world for that.

That's very similar to what I think.

Fair to say that the best foundations for a club are built on pragmatism and add flair afterwards, looks like this is the process we're going through.
If we could win this cup final it will be a season to remember forever.
Please get it over the line!

[MrRobot]

He’s come through a really challenging spell and got us third along with the SC final, deserves huge praise. Delighted for him and glad to have been proven wrong.

[norhfc]

Loved seeing the smile on his face tonight, he’s done a great job with us and deserves the credit. Now become a club legend and win the cup 🇳🇬👍

[Borderhibbie76]

We were an absolute shambles when this guy took over, with a squad of players who couldn’t see out a game if their life depended on it.

I think Jack Ross is the most under rated manager in our history.

If we sometimes win ugly - is it not infinitely preferable to losing games like this? ....which we did regularly before.

Let’s get this cup!

Couldn't agree more with this...how many 2 goal leads did the Hecky Hibs surrender??

JR has done an amazing job and let's hope he becomes a legend in 10 days time

[Kaff]

I don’t know how this popped up again, but why settle for third? If we can retain and build on this squad, 2nd isn’t impossible. Remember, Celtic are a mess and will be rebuilding drastically. Too early to settle for best of the rest.

Good point, if Celtic appoint the equivalent of John Barnes or Mogga (in terms of how well he did for them) then a confident start next season could throw up all sorts.
Winning the Cup could really ignite us again and I'm sure Ron will invest adequately on the back of that too.
If its Eddie Howe coming in to Celtic let's hope he's thinking its just Rangers he has to beat, take your eye off the ball and anything can happen

[AliboyFC]

I don’t know how this popped up again, but why settle for third? If we can retain and build on this squad, 2nd isn’t impossible. Remember, Celtic are a mess and will be rebuilding drastically. Too early to settle for best of the rest.

I'd take 2nd any day of the week.

[JJP]

Chuffed to bits to have third wrapped up. All credit to Jack Ross and the team. Can now focus on the final as well. Feels good to be a Hibee right now.

[Jim44]

Incredible to get third over the line!
Game management spot on👊
Well done to Ross ,an amazing achievement in its own right.
Players looked hungry tonight maybe davie provan will leave them a piece of his fedora😂


That's very similar to what I think.

Fair to say that the best foundations for a club are built on pragmatism and add flair afterwards, looks like this is the process we're going through.
If we could win this cup final it will be a season to remember forever.
Please get it over the line!

I was absolutely impressed by our fight and determination in the second half tonight. A repeat performance in the final could make this a fantastic season. If we can win the Cup, I think Porteous, Doig, Nisbet and Irvine will waken up and see the sense of staying put for at least another season.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Well done Jack ,players and staff.
Older fans may agree with me .
The Tornadoes in original form,were short lived,yet played such football not seen at ER since the FF.
I really believe that Jack can and will, with the backing of Ron,and the support, assemble a squad/ team /side that will make us oldies who still dream of The Tornadoes very happy and muchly proud !!

Ron must see that with third place and Final appearance ,he has bought into a good outfit with fantastic and very faithful longstanding support, going back generations.

We shall not be moved ,Ron!!
Over to you !
Glory!! Glory !

[Unseen work]

I just want to say how delighted I am with how he has done since his appointment.

When he took over we were close to the relegation zone and it looked like all of the previous good work had been completely undone.

The squad has no balance and we were struggling.

There have been obvious blows like the defeats to Hearts and losing to St Johnstone in the semi final but that’s football.

What he has done is something we expect yet very rarely achieve and that’s finish third. Even more impressive since it been during a very difficult season due to the pandemic.

Budgets were cut yet he managed to identify and sign players like Gogic, Nisbet, Irvine etc that proved brilliant signings and no doubt each one played a huge part. He also managed to improve players game like Boyle (and convince him to sign a new deal)who managed to get his best ever goals return and bring through the likes of Doig.

The player recruitment since he has came in has been brilliant Imo with very few not
Impressing.

Some will moan that the style may not be the most exciting but I disagree. Whilst it may not be beautiful it’s effective and we normally play at a pace and aggression in how we attack teams with our wings backs, Boyle and Doig bombing on and taking on players.

We look a lot less likely to be bullied and I feel confident going into games that we’ll win and we have the players to get us over the line. People will point to some defeats this season and yes fair enough but every team in the world has hiccups.

To think we can go one better and win the Scottish cup is unbelievable.

What I will say is finishing 3rd and getting to a semi final and a final is impressive in itself let alone winning it. But let’s go that one step further, I think we will too

[HoboHarry]

I just want to say how delighted I am with how he has done since his appointment.

When he took over we were close to the relegation zone and it looked like all of the previous good work had been completely undone.

The squad has no balance and we were struggling.

There have been obvious blows like the defeats to Hearts and losing to St Johnstone in the semi final but that’s football.

What he has done is something we expect yet very rarely achieve and that’s finish third. Even more impressive since it been during a very difficult season due to the pandemic.

Budgets were cut yet he managed to identify and sign players like Gogic, Nisbet, Irvine etc that proved brilliant signings and no doubt each one played a huge part. He also managed to improve players game like Boyle (and convince him to sign a new deal)who managed to get his best ever goals return and bring through the likes of Doig.

The player recruitment since he has came in has been brilliant Imo with very few not
Impressing.

Some will moan that the style may not be the most exciting but I disagree. Whilst it may not be beautiful it’s effective and we normally play at a pace and aggression in how we attack teams with our wings backs, Boyle and Doig bombing on and taking on players.

We look a lot less likely to be bullied and I feel confident going into games that we’ll win and we have the players to get us over the line. People will point to some defeats this season and yes fair enough but every team in the world has hiccups.

To think we can go one better and win the Scottish cup is unbelievable.

What I will say is finishing 3rd and getting to a semi final and a final is impressive in itself let alone winning it. But let’s go that one step further, I think we will too

Excellent post and a huge well done not only to just Jack Ross but to everyone involved in this season's efforts.

[AgentDaleCooper]

Any manager that rocks a green cardie like JR is a born winner IMO

[Vault Boy]

An outstanding first full season at the club, regardless of what happens at Hampden. Jack deserves a hell of a lot of credit for his work here, a lot of the same team that was loitering near the relegation spot when he came in is still here and are now doing well. Total 180.

Win the cup too and it's a legendary status, simple as that.

[nlandsafchibee]

Any manager that rocks a green cardie like JR is a born winner IMO

And he says he is wearing it for the final

[tonyrougier123]

I also find it quite funny we have had a few days debating wether gogic and hallberg should start, and Ross decides to start both which was an absolute game winning decision.and both were superb.

[hibbysam]

I also find it quite funny we have had a few days debating wether gogic and hallberg should start, and Ross decides to start both which was an absolute game winning decision.and both were superb.

He never had much of a choice to be fair, the discussion was around the cup final. Newell was never going to play tonight after limping out at the weekend.

[Jim44]

He never had much of a choice to be fair, the discussion was around the cup final. Newell was never going to play tonight after limping out at the weekend.

Let’s hope and assume that Newell and Porteous’s injuries are not serious. Why have them on the bench tonight if there was concern.

[hibbysam]

Let’s hope and assume that Newell and Porteous’s injuries are not serious. Why have them on the bench tonight if there was concern.

I don’t think they were crocked, but simply filling spaces on the bench and used if the worst happened and we had loads of injuries tonight. We only had about 7 named subs, take those two off and it’s only 5. With Gogic back it was easy to give Newell the rest, and Daz was available.

[tonyrougier123]

He never had much of a choice to be fair, the discussion was around the cup final. Newell was never going to play tonight after limping out at the weekend.

I Do realise it was cup final chat,he could’ve started magennis tonight for a chance to shine and put Irvine in the middle,he had options so don’t think it was a hands tied scenario.it was great decision I won’t play it down Sam.

[Eyrie]

Ross has done a very good job this season for us. Let's hope it turns out to be even better, but I'm comfortable with him taking us forward.

[Wilson]

It has been a fantastic end to the season. Well done to Jack Ross and the team. Hibs are up where they belong and you have all done well getting us there.

[pacorosssco]

Well done Jack ross have had my doubts but he's taken us to best finish in ages. Humble pie. Keep it up Jack

[matty_f]

I’ve been consistent in my view that we won a watch when we hired Jack Ross. He’s an exceptionally talented manager and to be going into the final game of the season 6 points clear of fourth place, with a cup final to look forward to, is outstanding.

We have had some bumps in the road, a handful of performances that were as bad as anything we saw under Butcher, imho, but they were just that -bumps on an otherwise hugely consistent season.

People will point to the fact that Aberdeen had a run of (insert increasing number here) of games without scoring and question that it took until now to really be sure of third, but that overlooks the fact that we had some catching up to do on them, so to overturn the deficit and then create a big enough gap to allow for a couple of slip ups ourselves, while competing in the cups, is fantastic.

On almost any measure you want to use, Hibs are the third best team in the country.

The often criticised defender is meaner than anyone outside the old firm (i think), the mis-firing, wasteful attack are the third top scorers in the league. As a support we’ve been hyper critical of a really good team and it’s only now when we’re sitting on the cusp of our best season in most of our lifetimes that people are accepting that we’re a good team.

Huge credit to Jack and the team, but also to Graeme Mathie, Ron Gordon, and all the people behind the scenes who have worked tirelessly this season to deliver this third place finish.

Now bring the cup home, Jack, and make history.

[Weegreenman]

Seasons not over yet! He’ll get my opinion once we win the cup and not before!

💚

[Magpie]

Absolutely full credit to Jack Ross. I personally criticised him between the defeat to Hearts and St Johnstone but most of that was out of anger. He has done a tremendous job in a tough season all things considered. I hope we win this cup for him more than anyone. GGTTH

[One Day Soon]

It's a great achievement and I must admit I really wasn't sure he was right for us.

This has been a very weird season with the empty stadiums. I don't know if that has benefitted us or not. In some respects we've been here before, a really solid looking base and a lot of potential to build something special. Can he do it? Let's deal with the cup first and then find out next season...

[Inconsequential]

Surely now everyone with a possible cup final win to follow will admit that Ross Jack has done very, very well. :greengrin

[jacomo]

Well done Jack. Whatever happens now you’ve delivered a fine season. Go win that cup and make it truly special.

[jacomo]

It's a great achievement and I must admit I really wasn't sure he was right for us.

This has been a very weird season with the empty stadiums. I don't know if that has benefitted us or not. In some respects we've been here before, a really solid looking base and a lot of potential to build something special. Can he do it? Let's deal with the cup first and then find out next season...


I think he’s a great fit for us. Dour and pragmatic but maybe that’s just what Hibs were needing - give us a structure and a seriousness to our work, sign good players, let them go and perform.

[SteveHFC]

Absolutely full credit to Jack Ross. I personally criticised him between the defeat to Hearts and St Johnstone but most of that was out of anger. He has done a tremendous job in a tough season all things considered. I hope we win this cup for him more than anyone. GGTTH

Yep my thoughts exactly mate.

[Since452]

Lifting the players and getting us to a final after two sickening semi final defeats isn't to be sniffed at either. He's shown he can overcome massive disappointment.

[Onion]

Excellent season for JR, which could be sensational come 22nd.

Well balanced squad of players who appear to have the drive to succeed. We can only hope that Ron is a man with a plan, and is able to hang on to Jack Ross for a while longer.

[Heisenberg]

Brilliant season and as others have said it has the potential to become special. Great base to build from now, we’ve got a really good chance to become regulars at this end of the league. We have thrown in some absolute stinkers this season, it’s Hibs we always seem to do it, but by in large we’ve been consistent throughout.

[Glory Lurker]

Can't argue with third plus cup final. Aside from the times we won the league, win the cup and we're looking at pretty much Hibs most successful season ever, in only his first full season. Fantastic.

[WestCoastHibby]

Not often have we finished 3rd in my lifetime. Away win record and just missing our record points total. Also in the Scottish Cup final.

Just think the state we were in when he took over. Incredible.
Absolutely and yet it's been a major effort trying to convince a lot of Hibs followers that he was worthy.
Always knew he had the minerals for the job. Fantastic effort from all the staff and players.
Now let's win the cup. It's been five long years!! 😉

[Hibbyradge]

I’ve been consistent in my view that we won a watch when we hired Jack Ross. He’s an exceptionally talented manager and to be going into the final game of the season 6 points clear of fourth place, with a cup final to look forward to, is outstanding.

We have had some bumps in the road, a handful of performances that were as bad as anything we saw under Butcher, imho, but they were just that -bumps on an otherwise hugely consistent season.

People will point to the fact that Aberdeen had a run of (insert increasing number here) of games without scoring and question that it took until now to really be sure of third, but that overlooks the fact that we had some catching up to do on them, so to overturn the deficit and then create a big enough gap to allow for a couple of slip ups ourselves, while competing in the cups, is fantastic.

On almost any measure you want to use, Hibs are the third best team in the country.

The often criticised defender is meaner than anyone outside the old firm (i think), the mis-firing, wasteful attack are the third top scorers in the league. As a support we’ve been hyper critical of a really good team and it’s only now when we’re sitting on the cusp of our best season in most of our lifetimes that people are accepting that we’re a good team.

Huge credit to Jack and the team, but also to Graeme Mathie, Ron Gordon, and all the people behind the scenes who have worked tirelessly this season to deliver this third place finish.

Now bring the cup home, Jack, and make history.

I agree with your sentiments entirely, but I don't think anything we produced was as bad as we saw under Butcher.

I remember playing Aberdeen at ER as early as 7 April and our players just didn't want the ball in case they made a mistake they were do afraid.

We lost that game 2-0 and although we were still mis-table(ish) it prompted me to put £20 on Hibs finishing in the bottom 2. (I can't remember the exact terms of the bet, but it won @ 8/1).

We've not played well in a few games, but we've never reached those depths.

It's been a fabulous season. Such a shame we couldn't be there to enjoy it.

[green with envy]

Nah it would just be class if got 3rd next season aswell.

What about getting 3rd the season after that and the season after that etc etc... That would be even classier eh?:rolleyes:

[green with envy]

And to think someone actually started a poll to get him out :confused:, mind you they did the same to Stubbsy the legend, I'll never understand some fans.
Hopefully the man is with us a long long time.

Couldn't agree more.

The classic two faced fitba fans comes to mind RE: Jack Ross this season.

[Hibernian Verse]

Matty has already aluded to this with his comment about the gap we had to make up between us and Aberdeen to overtake them in the first place, but I'd add that we have grown into a very consistent team now.

Pre-Jan, I didn't know which Hibs was going to turn up. Would we take a 3-0 pumping or win playing swashbuckling football?

Since the turn of the year, we have looked like a match for anyone and I cannot wait for the final now.

[matty_f]

I agree with your sentiments entirely, but I don't think anything we produced was as bad as we saw under Butcher.

I remember playing Aberdeen at ER as early as 7 April and our players just didn't want the ball in case they made a mistake they were do afraid.

We lost that game 2-0 and although we were still mis-table(ish) it promoted me to put £20 on Hibs finishing in the bottom 2. (I can't remember the exact terms of the bet, but it won @ 8/1).

We've not played well in a few games, but we've never reached those depths.

It's been a fabulous season. Such a shame we couldn't be there to enjoy it.

The back to back home defeat to Livi and Ross County (IIRC) where i don’t think we managed a shot on target across two games were as bad.

We didn’t have many of those performances though.

[Smartie]

Well done to Paul Heckingbottom for laying the foundations for this success 😉


Jokes, well done to Jack Ross, I’ve been known to talk pish about him this season, he’s certainly shown me up for the idiot I am though. Great job done, hope we can hold on to him now as inevitable teams will be noticing his success with us.

I think he’s shown a few of us up, when we’ve made daft comments in the heat of the moment.

Even the very best of seasons will have dips in form and poor results along the way, and I’d say he’s a win over St Johnstone away from delivering arguably our best season ever.

Not having crowds in the grounds has, I am convinced, made it harder for him to have the fans onside at all times. Some of the away performances and results in particular would have been very satisfying to be at but maybe felt a bit uninspiring watching at home.

I’m delighted for him though, and I like him. I respond to measured and thoughtful much more than windmilling arms and foul mouthed rants and when we’re playing pish I’d rather have a manager figuring out how to fix it with his brain rather than any number of empty gestures that would be less likely to work.

We’ve also got a squad of players that I like, many of whom he has brought in. Drey Wright gets a bit of stick on here but tbh I quite like him, and if he’s amongst our bigger problems then we must be doing an awful lot very well.

[Since452]

We have been mightily impressive at the business end of the season. Look well organised, fit, confident and hungry. The players look like they're busting a gut. How often have we seen decent looking seasons peter out after Christmas? Credit to Jack Ross and his coaching team. Even if we lose the cup final which may very well happen, he's done well. It's a great platform to build on.

[Oscar T Grouch]

I was having a think last night (yeah it hurt my little brain!). If we win the cup, will it be the first time a manager, any manager has been this successful and not picked up a Manager if the Month award or get mentioned in Manager of the Year awards? Essentially JR could be a cup winning, guided his team to third manager, which lets face it is what everyone outside the Glasgow uglies thinks is an amazing season, go through the whole season under the radar? Can anyone think of another manager who that has happened to?

[blackpoolhibs]

Ever since Ross arrived at the club, we've improved, improved that much we are 3rd in the league.

We are never going to win every game, but surely tae f if we win more than the rest of the league bar the obvious two, we are doing something right?

He's building a better team, a better squad, if last night showed us anything it's a manager needs time, we need to be patient, as a winning team takes work and stability and a good manager, we have one. :hibees

[Smartie]

The back to back home defeat to Livi and Ross County (IIRC) where i don’t think we managed a shot on target across two games were as bad.

We didn’t have many of those performances though.

We had a couple of very good performances early December (Motherwell and Hamilton away) but form slipped away and we were dreadful for a month or so.

Once more though, Ross addressed the problems. McGregor came into the team and did well and he brought in Irvine and Cadden who made a major impact straight away.

I’ve not been convinced by him all along (it would be totally hypocritical for me to say otherwise)and might have been a bit tainted by his Sunderland experience. He really splits their fan base into those who acknowledge how much better he did than everyone else in recent years and those who realise that whilst he came close to success he still fell short. I’ve always just had that nagging doubt that we’d fall short - but a big result last night to confirm 3rd, some big results in big games in the cups have gone a long way to dispel that.

Fine margins again though. He’s a game away from being a legend.

[Allez Hibs]

We had a couple of very good performances early December (Motherwell and Hamilton away) but form slipped away and we were dreadful for a month or so.

Once more though, Ross addressed the problems. McGregor came into the team and did well and he brought in Irvine and Cadden who made a major impact straight away.

I’ve not been convinced by him all along (it would be totally hypocritical for me to say otherwise)and might have been a bit tainted by his Sunderland experience. He really splits their fan base into those who acknowledge how much better he did than everyone else in recent years and those who realise that whilst he came close to success he still fell short. I’ve always just had that nagging doubt that we’d fall short - but a big result last night to confirm 3rd, some big results in big games in the cups have gone a long way to dispel that.

Fine margins again though. He’s a game away from being a legend.

That's a good summary and a sentiment I agree with.

He is not the most exciting manager but he is one game away from being a legend. Let's hope we do it.

Credit where credit is due, Well done Jack.

[calumhibee1]

We had a couple of very good performances early December (Motherwell and Hamilton away) but form slipped away and we were dreadful for a month or so.

Once more though, Ross addressed the problems. McGregor came into the team and did well and he brought in Irvine and Cadden who made a major impact straight away.

I’ve not been convinced by him all along (it would be totally hypocritical for me to say otherwise)and might have been a bit tainted by his Sunderland experience. He really splits their fan base into those who acknowledge how much better he did than everyone else in recent years and those who realise that whilst he came close to success he still fell short. I’ve always just had that nagging doubt that we’d fall short - but a big result last night to confirm 3rd, some big results in big games in the cups have gone a long way to dispel that.

Fine margins again though. He’s a game away from being a legend.

:agree:

People can criticise others/deny it all they want for saying it but before the turn of the year we had a real difficulty winning the big games. Our record in them was really poor.

Since the turn of the year though our record in them is very good. We’ve improved significantly since January imo. We went from looking like we were regularly winning games that could have went either way (something which I didn’t think we’d be able to keep doing) to deservedly winning most of the games we do win.

[Keith_M]

Well done indeed. Still have a Cup Final to look forward to as well.

:flag:



All in a season where we couldn't get in to watch a single game.... Typical Hibs!! :wink:

[Wilson]

Couldn't agree more.

The classic two faced fitba fans comes to mind RE: Jack Ross this season.

Aye. Football fans unhappy at poor results and happy with good ones. Who'd have thunk it?

Classic.

[Peevemor]

Aye. Football fans unhappy at poor results and happy with good ones. Who'd have thunk it?

Classic.

There's a difference between unhappy (which is normal) and massive over reaction, verging on hatred in some instances.

[JimBHibees]

Ever since Ross arrived at the club, we've improved, improved that much we are 3rd in the league.

We are never going to win every game, but surely tae f if we win more than the rest of the league bar the obvious two, we are doing something right?

He's building a better team, a better squad, if last night showed us anything it's a manager needs time, we need to be patient, as a winning team takes work and stability and a good manager, we have one. :hibees

The improvements can't be denied especially given he hasn't really been here that long. Signings have in the main been very good, he has improved a number of players plus developed a really good young talent. Absolutely need to be patient as he has shown he is a more than capable manager.

[JimBHibees]

The back to back home defeat to Livi and Ross County (IIRC) where i don’t think we managed a shot on target across two games were as bad.

We didn’t have many of those performances though.

Yeah they were very poor however think the players were physically exhausted in these games just a few days after playing excellently at Ibrox including being Collumed in that game. :greengrin

[Since452]

We were a missed penalty in horrible conditions away from last seasons SCF and just didn't make our early dominance count in the LCS. I didn't blame Ross for either of them as hard as it was to take at the time.

Sounds silly saying this when we've just finished 3rd and are in the cup final but i think we will go from strength to strength with Ross and Ron here. There will be bumps along they way, derby defeats etc of course there will but that's football. Being regularly in Europe and constantly in the latter stages of cup competitions is where we go from here.

[Keith_M]

I hope everybody realises that we're only one defeat away from some people turning on Ross.

Despite what he's achieved so far, if we lose the Cup Final then that's exactly what will happen.


Football fans can be very fickle (myself included)

[nlandsafchibee]

We had a couple of very good performances early December (Motherwell and Hamilton away) but form slipped away and we were dreadful for a month or so.

Once more though, Ross addressed the problems. McGregor came into the team and did well and he brought in Irvine and Cadden who made a major impact straight away.

I’ve not been convinced by him all along (it would be totally hypocritical for me to say otherwise)and might have been a bit tainted by his Sunderland experience. He really splits their fan base into those who acknowledge how much better he did than everyone else in recent years and those who realise that whilst he came close to success he still fell short. I’ve always just had that nagging doubt that we’d fall short - but a big result last night to confirm 3rd, some big results in big games in the cups have gone a long way to dispel that.

Fine margins again though. He’s a game away from being a legend.

I have been a Sunderland supporter for 50 plus years and he was our best Manager in last 20 years .He was sacked by a bafoon of chairman ,if you saw Sunderland till I die you will know what I mean. He came to a club in quick decline and took them to 2 Wembley finals which even the most demanding supporter could never have ever dreamed of .
He started on first day of pre season with 7 players and built a very decent team at that level.I do not understand that belief of some, that he was a failure in big games .Both finals, had as many know fine margins .It wasnt JR that had his penalty saved by a good Scottish keeper of Portsmouth ( who I believe is out of contract this summer ) or a defensive deflection in last minute to allow Charlton to score or Nisbet to miss penalty against Hearts .
My wife and I were absolutely gutted, when in a promotion play off position he was sacked .So we have followed him to Hibs and are fully wrapped up in your club and have seen games 3-0 v Aberdeen cup v Dundee Utd away and Ross County 3-0 at home before covid.
He is an excellent manager as you are seeing, and by his admission the form bump was the longest in his career and he solved it .Potter also deserves a lot of credit. Onward and upward I am sure, as you also have a chairman who is here for long term and gets Hibs

[calumhibee1]

I hope everybody realises that we're only one defeat away from some people turning on Ross.

Despite what he's achieved so far, if we lose the Cup Final then that's exactly what will happen.


Football fans can be very fickle (myself included)

We keep getting told that we’re only one defeat away by the same posters who are desperate to pretend there’s a Jack Ross lynch mob.

We lost to St Johnstone in an awful performance and there was no JR out campaign despite the claims we were one defeat away from it before hand.

There’s been next to no JR out posts for months now. It’s time to let the idea that we’re ‘one defeat away’ from it go.

[JimBHibees]

I have been a Sunderland supporter for 50 plus years and he was our best Manager in last 20 years .He was sacked by a bafoon of chairman ,if you saw Sunderland till I die you will know what I mean. He came to a club in quick decline and took them to 2 Wembley finals which even the most demanding supporter could have ever dreamed of .
He started on first day of pre season with 7 players and built a very decent team at that level.I do not understand that belief of some, that he was a failure in big games .Both finals, had as many know fine margins .It wasnt JR that had his penalty saved by a good Scottish keeper of Portsmouth ( who I believe is out of contract this summer ) or a defensive deflection in last minute to allow Charlton to score or Nisbet to miss penalty against Hearts .
My wife and I were absolutely gutted when in a promotion play off position he was sacked .So we have followed him to Hibs and are fully wrapped up in your club and have seen games 3-0 v Aberdeen cup v Dundee Utd away and Ross County 3-0 at home before covid.
He is an excellent manager as you are seeing and by his admission the form bump was the longest in his career and he solved it .Potter also deserves a lot of credit. Onward and upward I am sure as you also have a chairman who is here for long term and gets Hibs

Thanks for that background yes success and failure can be a very fine line at times and imo in many cases absolutely nothing to do with the coach. Only way of getting over big game defeats is to keep banging on the door as Hibs only know too well it will eventually open.

[Keith_M]

We keep getting told that we’re only one defeat away by the same posters who are desperate to pretend there’s a Jack Ross lynch mob.

We lost to St Johnstone in an awful performance and there was no JR out campaign despite the claims we were one defeat away from it.

There’s been next to no JR out posts for months now.


I never mentioned anything about a lynch mob. I just pointed out how fickle the average football fan can be, especially after losing a cup final.


You seem to be somewhat overly-sensitive on this subject.

[matty_f]

Yeah they were very poor however think the players were physically exhausted in these games just a few days after playing excellently at Ibrox including being Collumed in that game. :greengrin

I agree, I don’t hold the games against Ross, we were terrible but they were games that were exceptions, they aren’t reflective of the team’s performances for the majority of the season.

The manager was getting hounded at that point, it was absurd.

[blackpoolhibs]

I never mentioned anything about a lynch mob. I just pointed out how fickle the average football fan can be, especially after losing a cup final.


You seem to be somewhat overly-sensitive on this subject.

There's only been one lynch mob this season, and he was head honcho of it.

[calumhibee1]

I never mentioned anything about a lynch mob. I just pointed out how fickle the average football fan can be, especially after losing a cup final.


You seem to be somewhat overly-sensitive on this subject.

And you seem somewhat desperate to continue the idea that Jack Ross is under pressure from a group of fans that no longer really exist.

The ‘one defeat away’ crowd are doing a much better job of keeping the idea of there being folk that want him out alive than people actually wanting him out.

[matty_f]

I have been a Sunderland supporter for 50 plus years and he was our best Manager in last 20 years .He was sacked by a bafoon of chairman ,if you saw Sunderland till I die you will know what I mean. He came to a club in quick decline and took them to 2 Wembley finals which even the most demanding supporter could never have ever dreamed of .
He started on first day of pre season with 7 players and built a very decent team at that level.I do not understand that belief of some, that he was a failure in big games .Both finals, had as many know fine margins .It wasnt JR that had his penalty saved by a good Scottish keeper of Portsmouth ( who I believe is out of contract this summer ) or a defensive deflection in last minute to allow Charlton to score or Nisbet to miss penalty against Hearts .
My wife and I were absolutely gutted, when in a promotion play off position he was sacked .So we have followed him to Hibs and are fully wrapped up in your club and have seen games 3-0 v Aberdeen cup v Dundee Utd away and Ross County 3-0 at home before covid.
He is an excellent manager as you are seeing, and by his admission the form bump was the longest in his career and he solved it .Potter also deserves a lot of credit. Onward and upward I am sure, as you also have a chairman who is here for long term and gets Hibs

Nice post, enjoyed reading that. :aok:

[jacomo]

I have been a Sunderland supporter for 50 plus years and he was our best Manager in last 20 years .He was sacked by a bafoon of chairman ,if you saw Sunderland till I die you will know what I mean. He came to a club in quick decline and took them to 2 Wembley finals which even the most demanding supporter could never have ever dreamed of .
He started on first day of pre season with 7 players and built a very decent team at that level.I do not understand that belief of some, that he was a failure in big games .Both finals, had as many know fine margins .It wasnt JR that had his penalty saved by a good Scottish keeper of Portsmouth ( who I believe is out of contract this summer ) or a defensive deflection in last minute to allow Charlton to score or Nisbet to miss penalty against Hearts .
My wife and I were absolutely gutted, when in a promotion play off position he was sacked .So we have followed him to Hibs and are fully wrapped up in your club and have seen games 3-0 v Aberdeen cup v Dundee Utd away and Ross County 3-0 at home before covid.
He is an excellent manager as you are seeing, and by his admission the form bump was the longest in his career and he solved it .Potter also deserves a lot of credit. Onward and upward I am sure, as you also have a chairman who is here for long term and gets Hibs


Yay! Welcome to the Hibs family!

[Blackfordhibby]

Must admit I could've seen him far enough after the earlier semi-final defeats. Glad he doesn't listen to me very often if at all.

[Allez Hibs]

And you seem somewhat desperate to continue the idea that Jack Ross is under pressure from a group of fans that no longer really exist.

The ‘one defeat away’ crowd are doing a much better job of keeping the idea of there being folk that want him out alive than people actually wanting him out.

I agree with this, there seems to be an appetite of one up manship regarding Jack Ross and the posters who perceive that there is a Jack Ross out campaign, which in turn, keeps it going round in circles and leads to certain posters taking offense when Jack Ross is questioned by other posters.

For example, how many Jack Ross threads (which weren't necessarily Jack Ross out threads) have been shut down.

[nonshinyfinish]

I agree with this, there seems to be an appetite of one up manship regarding Jack Ross and the posters who perceive that there is a Jack Ross out campaign, which in turn, keeps it going round in circles and leads to certain posters taking offense when Jack Ross is questioned by other posters.

For example, how many Jack Ross threads (which weren't necessarily Jack Ross out threads) have been shut down.

While I tend to agree that both sides should just leave it at this point (and you always have the option of just not engaging if it's true that the other side of the debate keep bringing it up), the most recently closed Jack Ross thread descended into arguments because someone posted that JR should be sacked if he doesn't win the cup final.

[Since452]

Hecky had his supporters, Lennon split opinion, Stubbs wasn't for everyone. No manager will ever have the universal support of everyone for whatever reason. Lets just enjoy where we are right now.

[calumhibee1]

I agree with this, there seems to be an appetite of one up manship regarding Jack Ross and the posters who perceive that there is a Jack Ross out campaign, which in turn, keeps it going round in circles and leads to certain posters taking offense when Jack Ross is questioned by other posters.

For example, how many Jack Ross threads (which weren't necessarily Jack Ross out threads) have been shut down.

The Ross out thread was last posted on when we beat Aberdeen on 6 February. I’d also point out that the posts on 6 February were unsurprisingly not calling for him to be sacked. Since then there’s been very little suggestion that he should be sacked.

Apparently though according to numerous posters he’s ‘one game away’ from posters demanding his removal. Despite numerous defeats in the period between 6/2 and now proving that’s not the case.

For folk that seem to claim they support Ross as much as they do they’re incredibly keen to keep up this idea that fans want him sacked and apparently even hate him when there’s nothing to suggest that’s the case.

[Wilson]

While I tend to agree that both sides should just leave it at this point (and you always have the option of just not engaging if it's true that the other side of the debate keep bringing it up), the most recently closed Jack Ross thread descended into arguments because someone posted that JR should be sacked if he doesn't win the cup final.

I think we should be careful not to accept an opinion that one person posts as a widely held belief. I think an opinion that JR be sacked in the event of losing a cup final, or at least this first cup final, would be quite unpopular.

[Allez Hibs]

The Ross out thread was last posted on when we beat Aberdeen on 6 February. Since then there’s been very little suggestion that he should be sacked.

Apparently though according to numerous posters he’s ‘one game away’ from posters demanding his removal. Despite numerous defeats in the period between 6/2 and now proving it’s not the case.

For folk that seem to claim they support Ross as much as they do they’re incredibly keen to keep up this idea that fans want him sacked and apparently even hate him when there’s nothing to suggest that’s the case.

So there was a whole thread shut down quickly after we beat Aberdeen. Why was it shut down if there is such a perception that he is always one game away from such calls? Doesn't make sense to close that thread or other posters to continually bring it back up then?

I do think there's an element of a comparison to Alex Miller from some that leads to a divide of opinion but it's pretty far from calling for his head.

Most question marks about Jack Ross have been about big games which as you say, have been answered since the end of January.

It has almost made Jack Ross untouchable in some people's eyes purely down to the debate at the beginning of the year and threads always being closed.

[Pretty Boy]

I think we should be careful not to accept an opinion that one person posts as a widely held belief. I think an opinion that JR be sacked in the event of losing a cup final would be quite unpopular.

I think the general message of your post is something people should consider when reading anything on social media.

Those with the strongest and often the most extreme opinions tend to shout the loudest. The true silent majority, as opposed to the loud minority who claim to be the silenced, tend to lie somewhere in the middle.

Opinion on Ross has swung wildly over the course of the season, that's the reactionary nature of football fans. However he's largely enjoyed the support of what appears to be a huge majority of the fanbase for months now and rightly so. Every manager is going to be criticised and if we lose on the 22nd Ross is no exception. The idea there is a dormant campaign waiting to rise up any day seems ever more ridiculous every time it is mentioned now though. I daresay there will be a few people who will talk loudly and a lot about Ross should we lose the final but that shouldn't be mistaken for a concerted campaign involving a lot of people.

[EI255]

Unless I am missing something, that is a strange comment.Unlikely we'll finish 2nd, so 3rd would be good imo.

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[Pretty Boy]

So there was a whole thread shut down quickly after we beat Aberdeen. Why was it shut down if there is such a perception that he is always one game away from such calls? Doesn't make sense to close that thread or other posters to continually bring it back up then?

I do think there's an element of a comparison to Alex Miller from some that leads to a divide of opinion but it's pretty far from calling for his head.

Most question marks about Jack Ross have been about big games which as you say, have been answered since the end of January.

It has almost made Jack Ross untouchable in some people's eyes purely down to the debate at the beginning of the year and threads always being closed.

The thread you reference was closed for a specific reason that I am not going to comment on further publicly.

[nonshinyfinish]

I think we should be careful not to accept an opinion that one person posts as a widely held belief. I think an opinion that JR be sacked in the event of losing a cup final, or at least this first cup final, would be quite unpopular.Agreed, I was solely responding to the suggestion that JR threads were being closed for some other mysterious reason.

[Andy74]

So there was a whole thread shut down quickly after we beat Aberdeen. Why was it shut down if there is such a perception that he is always one game away from such calls? Doesn't make sense to close that thread or other posters to continually bring it back up then?

I do think there's an element of a comparison to Alex Miller from some that leads to a divide of opinion but it's pretty far from calling for his head.

Most question marks about Jack Ross have been about big games which as you say, have been answered since the end of January.

It has almost made Jack Ross untouchable in some people's eyes purely down to the debate at the beginning of the year and threads always being closed.

You seem to get to a point where you are supporting Jack Ross and then the more you talk it is evident you don’t really.

No big deal but one or two of you were absolutely adamant that he was not the right person long term.

I don’t think it would take too many bad results to bring it back out, we were already starting to see references during and after the St Johnstone game recently.

[Allez Hibs]

You seem to get to a point where you are supporting Jack Ross and then the more you talk it is evident you don’t really.

No big deal but one or two of you were absolutely adamant that he was not the right person long term.

I don’t think it would take too many bad results to bring it back out, we were already starting to see references during and after the St Johnstone game recently.

I would take Jack Ross being here for the next 5 years as it gives him proper time to build and completely do things his way. That's what we need as a club the most right now, stability.

[Fergus52]

And you seem somewhat desperate to continue the idea that Jack Ross is under pressure from a group of fans that no longer really exist.

The ‘one defeat away’ crowd are doing a much better job of keeping the idea of there being folk that want him out alive than people actually wanting him out.

If we lose the cup final there will 100% be several posters on here saying he should go.

After the recent St Johnstone defeat there were folk saying he should be sacked if we lose the final, and others implying that we should be looking to appoint a better manager asap, i.e. sack him.

[calumhibee1]

If we lose the cup final there will 100% be several posters on here saying he should go.

After the recent St Johnstone defeat there were folk saying he should be sacked if we lose the final, and others implying that we should be looking to appoint a better manager asap, i.e. sack him.

Hopefully we’ll have no way of finding out if your prediction is right or not.

[Pretty Boy]

It's mildly amusing that a well done Jack Ross thread has only descended into a thread debating 'Ross out' because people who are not Ross out turned it into such.

Self fulfilling prophecy really.

[Jones28]

I'm delighted for Jack and the players, a fabulous achievement to finish third and be in the final.

Now is not the time for squabbling and bickering, lets just enjoy the last 2 games of the season and what will be will be.

[calumhibee1]

Opinion on Ross has swung wildly over the course of the season, that's the reactionary nature of football fans. However he's largely enjoyed the support of what appears to be a huge majority of the fanbase for months now and rightly so. Every manager is going to be criticised and if we lose on the 22nd Ross is no exception. The idea there is a dormant campaign waiting to rise up any day seems ever more ridiculous every time it is mentioned now though. I daresay there will be a few people who will talk loudly and a lot about Ross should we lose the final but that shouldn't be mistaken for a concerted campaign involving a lot of people.

:agree:

[calumhibee1]

I'm delighted for Jack and the players, a fabulous achievement to finish third and be in the final.

Now is not the time for squabbling and bickering, lets just enjoy the last 2 games of the season and what will be will be.

:agree:

Agree. Great result last night and a great league campaign this season

[matty_f]

It's mildly amusing that a well done Jack Ross thread has only descended into a thread debating 'Ross out' because people who are not Ross out turned it into such.

Self fulfilling prophecy really.

A person. :wink:

[WhileTheChief..]

We keep getting told that we’re only one defeat away by the same posters who are desperate to pretend there’s a Jack Ross lynch mob.

We lost to St Johnstone in an awful performance and there was no JR out campaign despite the claims we were one defeat away from it before hand.

There’s been next to no JR out posts for months now. It’s time to let the idea that we’re ‘one defeat away’ from it go.

I agree.

Feels like there’s a few posters on here just dying to have a go at those who aren’t as positive about things. They seem gutted that no-one is moaning just now so are pre-empting it with these sorts of predictions.

Folk moaned when things were crap. Just like fans of every club do. As you say though, since the start of the year we’ve been excellent and nobody’s been calling for his head.

You’d have thought they would be happy that everyone is happy!

[The Modfather]

I agree.

Feels like there’s a few posters on here just dying to have a go at those who aren’t as positive about things. They seem gutted that no-one is moaning just now so are pre-empting it with these sorts of predictions.

Folk moaned when things were crap. Just like fans of every club do. As you say though, since the start of the year we’ve been excellent and nobody’s been calling for his head.

You’d have thought they would be happy that everyone is happy!


https://youtu.be/pf2DgSJuUHc

[Peevemor]

There's an incredible amount of airbrushing on this thread and I find it hilarious that those who have been defensive of Ross since the outset are being painted as the baddies.

I'm sorry if some people don't like this post.

Tough!

[makaveli1875]

Well done Jack . 1 more game to turn a great season into a ****ing legendary 1 . Lets get it done

[jacomo]

I agree.

Feels like there’s a few posters on here just dying to have a go at those who aren’t as positive about things. They seem gutted that no-one is moaning just now so are pre-empting it with these sorts of predictions.

Folk moaned when things were crap. Just like fans of every club do. As you say though, since the start of the year we’ve been excellent and nobody’s been calling for his head.

You’d have thought they would be happy that everyone is happy!


I think this is partly generated through the MSM (mainstream social media) :wink:

Plenty of times on FB or Twitter this season there have been folk calling for the manager’s head.

That ill feeling can’t help but be reflected on here at times, though it does just reinforce the idea that Hibs.net remains the best forum for fans to discuss our club.

[Keith_M]

Well done Jack . 1 more game to turn a great season into a ****ing legendary 1 . Lets get it done


:agree:

We have a great chance of winning the cup and I can't wait for the final.

[Sir David Gray]

I hope everybody realises that we're only one defeat away from some people turning on Ross.

Despite what he's achieved so far, if we lose the Cup Final then that's exactly what will happen.


Football fans can be very fickle (myself included)

Agree with this.

Ross is someone I've admired since his time with Alloa and wanted him in as soon as he was sacked by Sunderland and things were going pear shaped under Heckingbottom.

I have no doubt that if Heckingbottom had stayed much longer we would have been relegated last season and instead we only missed out on a top 6 place 4 months later due to Covid-19 ending the season early.

This season to then finish 3rd is very impressive, considering we were quite a bit behind Aberdeen at one point. It's where we really should be looking to finish every season though, despite not doing it very often.

However I do also agree with your point that a defeat to St Johnstone in the Scottish Cup final will have some people sharpening their knives again. Getting this coveted Europa League play off spot is huge for the club and we really couldn't have hoped for a much better final to try and achieve that.

[theonlywayisup]

Yes, well done Jack Ross.

I suppose, as football fans, we all have varying degrees of "what's acceptable" and "what's achievable".

I think there are many fans that their opinions are shaped by a few bad results / bad performances and find it very difficult to move on from that. Whereas others, and I think this is me, are happy to see how things play out before I say "get rid, he's got to go".

I'm impressed with Jack Ross as an individual and as a football manager. However, in life, we are always presented with new challenges - his now is to work out how to beat St Johnstone. How Jack Ross is remembered by the fans will be determined by whether his hands are on the cup after the game on the 22nd May.

[Peevemor]

Agree with this.

Ross is someone I've admired since his time with Alloa and wanted him in as soon as he was sacked by Sunderland and things were going pear shaped under Heckingbottom.

I have no doubt that if Heckingbottom had stayed much longer we would have been relegated last season and instead we only missed out on a top 6 place 4 months later due to Covid-19 ending the season early.

This season to then finish 3rd is very impressive, considering we were quite a bit behind Aberdeen at one point. It's where we really should be looking to finish every season though, despite not doing it very often.

However I do also agree with your point that a defeat to St Johnstone in the Scottish Cup final will have some people sharpening their knives again. Getting this coveted Europa League play off spot is huge for the club and we really couldn't have hoped for a much better final to try and achieve that.The players were too shackled by Heckingbottom but at least he left a decent base/squad for Jack Ross coming in - tweaking & additions were needed as opposed to an entire rebuild.

[matty_f]

I think this is partly generated through the MSM (mainstream social media) :wink:

Plenty of times on FB or Twitter this season there have been folk calling for the manager’s head.

That ill feeling can’t help but be reflected on here at times, though it does just reinforce the idea that Hibs.net remains the best forum for fans to discuss our club.

That's a good point - there's a lot of rage across Facebook and Twitter after defeats, and if folk are anything like me, they'll take in all of that stuff at the same time as reading the views on here, and I suspect that amplifies the noise a fair bit.

[Keith_M]

The players were too shackled by Heckingbottom but at least he left a decent base/squad for Jack Ross coming in - tweaking & additions were needed as opposed to an entire rebuild.


Agreed. Hecky was a decent bloke and he (initially at least) got some pretty decent performances from the available squad.

We've now progressed quite a bit from there and hopefully continue on that trajectory.

[Alex Trager]

I have been a Sunderland supporter for 50 plus years and he was our best Manager in last 20 years .He was sacked by a bafoon of chairman ,if you saw Sunderland till I die you will know what I mean. He came to a club in quick decline and took them to 2 Wembley finals which even the most demanding supporter could never have ever dreamed of .
He started on first day of pre season with 7 players and built a very decent team at that level.I do not understand that belief of some, that he was a failure in big games .Both finals, had as many know fine margins .It wasnt JR that had his penalty saved by a good Scottish keeper of Portsmouth ( who I believe is out of contract this summer ) or a defensive deflection in last minute to allow Charlton to score or Nisbet to miss penalty against Hearts .
My wife and I were absolutely gutted, when in a promotion play off position he was sacked .So we have followed him to Hibs and are fully wrapped up in your club and have seen games 3-0 v Aberdeen cup v Dundee Utd away and Ross County 3-0 at home before covid.
He is an excellent manager as you are seeing, and by his admission the form bump was the longest in his career and he solved it .Potter also deserves a lot of credit. Onward and upward I am sure, as you also have a chairman who is here for long term and gets Hibs

Welcome to the crazy world of Hibernian FC.

[bringbackbenny]

https://youtu.be/pf2DgSJuUHc


perhaps we all know it's ok ok!! :thumbsup:

[Niffy]

Unless I am missing something, that is a strange comment.


Guffaaawwww

[Sir David Gray]

The players were too shackled by Heckingbottom but at least he left a decent base/squad for Jack Ross coming in - tweaking & additions were needed as opposed to an entire rebuild.

There's not too many players still playing regularly from Heckingbottom's time.

Hibs squad v Celtic in Heckingbottom's final game;

Maxwell - Gone
Jackson - Gone
Stevenson - Still here but hardly plays
Hanlon - Still a regular
James - Out on loan, unlikely to play again
Hallberg - Still here but doesn't start too regularly
Vela - Gone
Allan - Out on loan, unclear about what will happen
Horgan - Gone
Mallan - Out on loan, unlikely to play again
Doidge - Still a regular

Subs

Kamberi - Gone
Slivka - Gone
Boyle - Still a regular
Marciano - Still here, gone in the summer
Whittaker - Gone
Naismith - Gone
Newell - Still a regular

10 out of the 18 players who were involved in that squad are either gone already or away on loan and unlikely to play again.

There's only really 4 players left who could really be classed as regular starters.

[Since452]

There's not too many players still playing regularly from Heckingbottom's time.

Hibs squad v Celtic in Heckingbottom's final game;

Maxwell - Gone
Jackson - Gone
Stevenson - Still here but hardly plays
Hanlon - Still a regular
James - Out on loan, unlikely to play again
Hallberg - Still here but doesn't start too regularly
Vela - Gone
Allan - Out on loan, unclear about what will happen
Horgan - Gone
Mallan - Out on loan, unlikely to play again
Doidge - Still a regular

Subs

Kamberi - Gone
Slivka - Gone
Boyle - Still a regular
Marciano - Still here, gone in the summer
Whittaker - Gone
Naismith - Gone
Newell - Still a regular

10 out of the 18 players who were involved in that squad are either gone already or away on loan and unlikely to play again.

There's only really 4 players left who could really be classed as regular starters.

Must admit id forgotten all about Tom James

[Sir David Gray]

Must admit id forgotten all about Tom James

My apologies! :greengrin

[Stevie Reid]

Jack Ross' win ratios as manager of Hibs (52%), Sunderland (51%) and St. Mirren (52%) are practically identical, after a similar number of games for each (71, 76 and 80 respectively).

A big difference of course is that Hibs are a top league side whereas St. Mirren and Sunderland (especially) where playing at a lower level than where they believe they should be.

Lack of draws has been good also - too many draws stopped us having a truly amazing season back in 2017/18, and you really are better having draws shared out equally between wins and losses.

At Sunderland JR had five more games in charge of them than he has had with us just now, but he drew 13 more games with Sunderland. He's lost twice as many games (20) here than he did there. A few more wins and a few more losses at the Mackems and we might not even have got him - thankfully we did :greengrin

He's improving as a manager and we are improving as a club under him and RG. Truly exciting times.

[Peevemor]

There's not too many players still playing regularly from Heckingbottom's time.

Hibs squad v Celtic in Heckingbottom's final game;

Maxwell - Gone
Jackson - Gone
Stevenson - Still here but hardly plays
Hanlon - Still a regular
James - Out on loan, unlikely to play again
Hallberg - Still here but doesn't start too regularly
Vela - Gone
Allan - Out on loan, unclear about what will happen
Horgan - Gone
Mallan - Out on loan, unlikely to play again
Doidge - Still a regular

Subs

Kamberi - Gone
Slivka - Gone
Boyle - Still a regular
Marciano - Still here, gone in the summer
Whittaker - Gone
Naismith - Gone
Newell - Still a regular

10 out of the 18 players who were involved in that squad are either gone already or away on loan and unlikely to play again.

There's only really 4 players left who could really be classed as regular starters.

Heckingbottom inherited quite a few on that list who are away or not playing.

[Andy74]

I agree.

Feels like there’s a few posters on here just dying to have a go at those who aren’t as positive about things. They seem gutted that no-one is moaning just now so are pre-empting it with these sorts of predictions.

Folk moaned when things were crap. Just like fans of every club do. As you say though, since the start of the year we’ve been excellent and nobody’s been calling for his head.

You’d have thought they would be happy that everyone is happy!

The reaction is because of the relentless negativity certain posters display, even when things are relatively good.

The nature of the posting by some is also pretty provocative and aggressive. Also, a number of folk have also been told for long periods this season that they are part of a problem.

They’d all be quick enough in laying it out if we had a bad spell so they can surely take a bit of it back just now?

[Since452]

Jack Ross' win ratios as manager of Hibs (52%), Sunderland (51%) and St. Mirren (52%) are practically identical, after a similar number of games for each (71, 76 and 80 respectively).

A big difference of course is that Hibs are a top league side whereas St. Mirren and Sunderland (especially) where playing at a lower level than where they believe they should be.

Lack of draws has been good also - too many draws stopped us having a truly amazing season back in 2017/18, and you really are better having draws shared out equally between wins and losses.

At Sunderland JR had five more games in charge of them than he has had with us just now, but he drew 13 more games with Sunderland. He's lost twice as many games (20) here than he did there. A few more wins and a few more losses at the Mackems and we might not even have got him - thankfully we did :greengrin

He's improving as a manager and we are improving as a club under him and RG. Truly exciting times.#

Incredible they sacked him. He had his budget absolutely slashed during his time there and his best player(s) sold from underneath him. I often wonder if managers are victims of their own success. He lost two games at Wembley with Sunderland and lost two at Hampden with Hibs. Had he not got to those showpiece games i wonder if there would have been the same OTT reaction from the fans and kneejerk reaction from the Sunderland owners.

[MWHIBBIES]

I don’t know how this popped up again, but why settle for third? If we can retain and build on this squad, 2nd isn’t impossible. Remember, Celtic are a mess and will be rebuilding drastically. Too early to settle for best of the rest.

Celtic will rebuild enough to be well ahead of us.

[calumhibee1]

The reaction is because of the relentless negativity certain posters display, even when things are relatively good.

The nature of the posting by some is also pretty provocative and aggressive. Also, a number of folk have also been told for long periods this season that they are part of a problem.

They’d all be quick enough in laying it out if we had a bad spell so they can surely take a bit of it back just now?

There is no relentless negativity. That’s really the point of the discussion.

With regards to provocative posting, again there’s been very little of the posts that people claim they’re reading actually posted for months. There’s only one type of post recently that has been provocative and it’s certainly not been non existent calls for JR to be sacked after each defeat.

[WhileTheChief..]

They’d all be quick enough in laying it out if we had a bad spell so they can surely take a bit of it back just now?

Ach, you're probably right. Why can't we all just get along?!

Sitting 3rd in the league and going to win the Cup - I doubt there's anything anyone could say to me on here to annoy me just now!!

[Smartie]

#

Incredible they sacked him. He had his budget absolutely slashed during his time there and his best player(s) sold from underneath him. I often wonder if managers are victims of their own success. He lost two games at Wembley with Sunderland and lost two at Hampden with Hibs. Had he not got to those showpiece games i wonder if there would have been the same OTT reaction from the fans and kneejerk reaction from the Sunderland owners.

This'll irk some but I think both clubs have pretty tough crowds.

That requires a bit of resilience and solid leadership at the top of clubs when going through a rough patch, in order to ensure that rough patch doesn't turn into a full-blown slump.

Ross didn't start his 2nd season at Sunderland brilliantly but he was sacked by inexperienced owners at a time when there was an awful lot of football still to be played. He'd shown enough during his first season to deserve a bit of time to sort that out.

Fortunately for us, Ron seems to be a fairly level-headed type, which in my opinion augurs well for us when we hit an inevitable tougher patch at some point.

[Fergus52]

Jack Ross' win ratios as manager of Hibs (52%), Sunderland (51%) and St. Mirren (52%) are practically identical, after a similar number of games for each (71, 76 and 80 respectively).

A big difference of course is that Hibs are a top league side whereas St. Mirren and Sunderland (especially) where playing at a lower level than where they believe they should be.

Lack of draws has been good also - too many draws stopped us having a truly amazing season back in 2017/18, and you really are better having draws shared out equally between wins and losses.

At Sunderland JR had five more games in charge of them than he has had with us just now, but he drew 13 more games with Sunderland. He's lost twice as many games (20) here than he did there. A few more wins and a few more losses at the Mackems and we might not even have got him - thankfully we did :greengrin

He's improving as a manager and we are improving as a club under him and RG. Truly exciting times.

That's also the best win percentage of any manager since the 60s, apart from Stubbs who only ever competed in the Championship.

Better than Mowbray, Collins, Lennon, McLeish etc. which is especially impressive when you consider that Lennon and McLeish both had a season in the Championship.

[Since452]

That's also the best win percentage of any manager since the 60s, apart from Stubbs who only ever competed in the Championship.

Better than Mowbray, Collins, Lennon, McLeish etc. which is especially impressive when you consider that Lennon and McLeish both had a season in the Championship.

Even more impressive considering the teams Collins and Lennon inherited. Ross walked into a **** show

[Dobosz83]

Just catching up with this thread and I'm quite surprised at the roller coaster its turned into at times, then again, this is '.net' I suppose.

Well done Jack Ross, that's all there is to say today.

I, for one, was critical of him, especially after the semi-final against St. Johnstone were we appeared to capitulate when it looked like an amazing chance at winning a trophy. It was hot on the heels of the frustrating Scottish Cup Semi against that lot as well. I didn't want him gone, but I seriously questioned his ability to win a meaningful game. A game with big pressure.

That, for me, can be put to bed now. The guy has steered us to a third place finish for the first time since Mowbray was the gaffer. That win last night was our first in Aberdeen for something like 9 years and was tailored made for us to lose, but instead, we went up north and done what they've done to us for years. It was a sweet win and lovely to seal the deal on their patch.

This, hot on the heels of a comfortable win against United at the weekend in a genuinely massive game, leaving us 90 mins from a second Scottish Cup in 5 years. Clean sheets, tactically astute decisions and a real aura of confidence on both occasions.

Fair play, Jack. Now go and win the cup and cement yourself in our history with legendary status. Hopefully he can draw on previous experience were finals haven't gone his way, and get this one over the line for us. Let's enjoy it.

[Northernhibee]

I think last night was further evidence that people complaining about the style of football may have been swayed by the lack of fans and not being there. Last night was the first time this season that we have properly played Aberdeen style football.

[Kato]

I think last night was further evidence that people complaining about the style of football may have been swayed by the lack of fans and not being there. Last night was the first time this season that we have properly played Aberdeen style football.

...without the constant fouling.

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[MWHIBBIES]

Couldn't agree more with this...how many 2 goal leads did the Hecky Hibs surrender??

JR has done an amazing job and let's hope he becomes a legend in 10 days time

Pretty sure Ross has lost more 2 goal leads than Hecky did.

[Peevemor]

Pretty sure Ross has lost more 2 goal leads than Hecky did.How many 2 goal leads did we have under Hecky?

[Dashing Bob S]

Be hard to find a solidly decent dresser like Ross in the ranks of the Scottish game. Results pale into insignificance alongside this factor. Keep him unless he shows any major sartorial lapses.

[Smartie]

We should do a poll on whether we think the number of jackets Jack Ross will be wearing on cup final day will be greater than the number of Hibernian supporters present.

[jacomo]

We should do a poll on whether we think the number of jackets Jack Ross will be wearing on cup final day will be greater than the number of Hibernian supporters present.


Hopefully the weather will have turned for the better, allowing Jack to shed a jacket or two.

Could be a close run thing though.

[Eyrie]

League position is always the true indicator of a team's ability. I don't think anyone would seriously argue that St Mirren or St Johnstone have been better teams than Sevco this season, despite putting Sevco out of the cups.

So Ross getting third in the league is confirmation that we have a very good manager and one we want to keep. Fortunately he's already had a bad experience down south, so he'll be wary about leaving us too soon and English clubs will place too much emphasis on his time at Sunderland, so we will keep him for a while.

[nlandsafchibee]

Hopefully the weather will have turned for the better, allowing Jack to shed a jacket or two.

Could be a close run thing though.

And dont forget the lucky green cardigan he bought before semi final and is wearing for final .