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Pagan Hibernia
10-05-2021, 11:27 PM
These may not be the only options but assuming they are?

Hibs90
10-05-2021, 11:57 PM
Empty Hampden.

****ing Scottish Cup final being played at Pittodrie. No way.

King Cosell
11-05-2021, 12:10 AM
Jack Ross won't want to play a final on a small bumpy pitch when he can have a big flat one, and what he says goes. And it would be rubbish. Dilapidated stadium, a few fans socially distanced with masks on. No ta, rather watch it on the telly.

Pagan Hibernia
11-05-2021, 12:21 AM
Jack Ross won't want to play a final on a small bumpy pitch when he can have a big flat one, and what he says goes. And it would be rubbish. Dilapidated stadium, a few fans socially distanced with masks on. No ta, rather watch it on the telly.

would it be rubbish for the fans lucky enough to be there?

makes little difference to me anyway. I won’t be at the Final regardless. I can certainly see why people would want it to be at Hampden, with or without fans

Kaff
11-05-2021, 12:26 AM
Managers job is to pick a team and win the game in front of him.
If its a crappy mid winter pitch or perfect bowling green it won't be a surprise to him.
For me, get as many fans at the game as possible.
Wembley had 8000 for the semifinals and it was better than the piped music, the players don't have it and we should remember that, get a proper dynamic to the game.
I think Aberdeen have done us a great favour and have put SFA under pressure.
Fingers crossed Hampden still an option

CloudSquall
11-05-2021, 12:43 AM
Empty Hampden, just wouldn't feel right seeing the team lift the cup at Pittodrie.

Brunswickbill
11-05-2021, 06:49 AM
We’ve spent a whole year watching fitba on TV with no fans. Why is there now a crisis that demands that we have a couple of thousand fans at the final. I can only guess that it’s the media looking to create a story. I listened to BBC radio Drivetime and they interviewed a St. Johnstone player who said he preferred Hampden fans or no fans. Then on Reporting Scotland all those interviewed demanded fans be present and went on about playing the final at Pittodrie. Reminds me a bit of the stirring the BBC did over relegation at the end of last season. I resigned myself to not seeing live fitba when I bought my season ticket last year and see no reason why there’s a need for a change now.

Shrekko
11-05-2021, 06:55 AM
Empty Hampden.

A cup final at Pittodirie in front of a few thousand is just an awful thought and would totally tarnish it.

Since452
11-05-2021, 07:01 AM
Empty Hampden. Pittodrie is a soleless ****hole even with fans

cocteautwin
11-05-2021, 07:03 AM
An empty Hampden.

Glory Lurker
11-05-2021, 07:09 AM
Pittodrie's barely suitable for a league game let alone the national final.

James Stephen
11-05-2021, 07:15 AM
would it be rubbish for the fans lucky enough to be there?

makes little difference to me anyway. I won’t be at the Final regardless. I can certainly see why people would want it to be at Hampden, with or without fans

I think it would - Pittodrie has no atmosphere at the best of times, it would feel as far from a big, showpiece occasion as its possible to get.

Being at Hampden is part of the occasion.

Since452
11-05-2021, 07:20 AM
The semi finals and finals without fans at Hampden have been fine and still felt like a big occasion. Why change it for one game? The thought of winning it at Pittodrie with a scattering of fans would take far more out of it for me than winning it at Hampden with no fans.

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 07:36 AM
Can't vote on the phone but 100% Hampden. Pittodrie would be ****.

Greenbeard
11-05-2021, 07:36 AM
You can be sure that the Sheep FC will not be doing this free gratis. They will make sure there is a profit for them in doing it. They can put their wellies on and go and f.... themselves.

mcohibs
11-05-2021, 07:43 AM
Baffled why most people wouldn't want our own fans to be at this game. You'd change your mind in a heartbeat if offered a ticket.

We're going to be watching it on TV, who gives a f*** where its played?! Surely having the option to have fans at Scotland's national cup final is the preferable option?

mcohibs
11-05-2021, 07:46 AM
The semi finals and finals without fans at Hampden have been fine and still felt like a big occasion. Why change it for one game? The thought of winning it at Pittodrie with a scattering of fans would take far more out of it for me than winning it at Hampden with no fans.

Seriously? The thought of Hibs players being able to lift the trophy in front of our own fans, no matter how many, I think would be brilliant after all that's happened this year. Players and manager deserve it

Ozyhibby
11-05-2021, 07:47 AM
Fans at the game wherever it is but let’s face it, it’s not going to pittidrie. If it gets moved it will be to a much bigger stadium.


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Newcastlehibby
11-05-2021, 08:03 AM
Neither - Murrayfield.

calumhibee1
11-05-2021, 08:07 AM
Fans at Pittodrie.

Fans are all that matters in football. If there’s a chance for some to be there then we should be making it happen.

lucky
11-05-2021, 08:07 AM
Amazed that anyone wants a game played with no fans. I’d be delighted if we played at leith links and won the Scottish Cup especially after a long season with no fans. The games doesn’t have to be at Aberdeen, Murray field is a better option or even East End Park. Let get fans at the game.

Antifa Hibs
11-05-2021, 08:08 AM
Seriously? The thought of Hibs players being able to lift the trophy in front of our own fans, no matter how many, I think would be brilliant after all that's happened this year. Players and manager deserve it

We've got people saying how much of a dump Hampden is in other threads now begging for the final to be kept at Hampden.... Couldn't make it up. The ones saying no to Aberdeen are the ones who have never been to Aberdeen or have any intention of going to Aberdeen as two and a half hours drive is too much trouble....


Pains me to say it but Tynie would be a better option than Pittodrie? I'd take anywhere so long as the pitch was in good condition and I got a ticket of course. If no luck in a ballot i couldn't give a flying f.... where it is if truth be told :greengrin

PatHead
11-05-2021, 08:14 AM
Understand that it is the SFA that are saying no fans at Hampden so I would expect them to have the same objection to Pittodrie.
I think that it should be at Hampden with fans. At least 12,000.
BTW that is a massive about turn from me.

SHODAN
11-05-2021, 08:17 AM
So apparently for Hibs fans the infrastructure is more important than the actual fans. Who knew.

Jones28
11-05-2021, 08:19 AM
Isn't Murrayfield the best of both worlds? Away from Hampden, still a big stadium to maximise attendance. Pittodrie can get tae.

calumhibee1
11-05-2021, 08:23 AM
Isn't Murrayfield the best of both worlds? Away from Hampden, still a big stadium to maximise attendance. Pittodrie can get tae.

Unavailable is it not?

Sir David Gray
11-05-2021, 08:24 AM
Can't vote on the phone but 100% Hampden. Pittodrie would be ****.

You can if you change the site to desktop view.

Sir David Gray
11-05-2021, 08:26 AM
Isn't Murrayfield the best of both worlds? Away from Hampden, still a big stadium to maximise attendance. Pittodrie can get tae.

Unavailable.

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Pretty Boy
11-05-2021, 08:32 AM
Fans there.

I don't care where that is really, not being able to sit next to my mates is an irrelevance to me and having to jump through hoops to get there is of no consequence. If fans can be at the final to support the team then I want to be there, I'd that means sitting alone and taking a test then fine. Those who would prefer to watch with a group at home still have that option. If it goes to ballot of whatever and I miss out I'd be delighted for those who did attend and would make alternative plans.

I don't think it will be an issue anyway. The game will 100% be at Hampden, fans or not.

danhibees1875
11-05-2021, 08:39 AM
Empty Hampden, not that it's anyone's ideal scenario.

I'd be minded to have it away from Hampden if they were going to make a proper fist of it, but not for a tiny number of fans.
It would also ideally be a better and bigger stadium than pittodrie.


In order of preference:

1) 10-20k fans in Hampden
2) 500 fans in Hampden
3) 10-20k fans in another stadium
4) Empty Hampden
5) 500 fans in another stadium

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 08:39 AM
So apparently for Hibs fans the infrastructure is more important than the actual fans. Who knew.

There will be hardly any "actual" fans there. If we get 1000 tickets the majority of that will go to players,staff and management allocation and corporate sponsors who have agreed priority on tickets for this exact reason.

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 08:40 AM
Empty Hampden, not that it's anyone's ideal scenario.

I'd be minded to have it away from Hampden if they were going to make a proper fist of it, but not for a tiny number of fans.
It would also ideally be a better and bigger stadium than pittodrie.


In order of preference:

1) 10-20k fans in Hampden
2) 500 fans in Hampden
3) 10-20k fans in another stadium
4) Empty Hampden
5) 500 fans in another stadium

Agreed (and so do the majority of people on this site it seems).

weecounty hibby
11-05-2021, 08:50 AM
Pittodrie is a dump, has no atmosphere even when full and shouldn't even be considered. I've not followed the story but why are they even considering it? Just play it at Hampden and be done with it. If we can get some fans in great, if not it should still be Hampden

Billy Whizz
11-05-2021, 08:51 AM
Aberdeen

Dalianwanda
11-05-2021, 08:52 AM
Why could we potentially have fans at Pittodrie but not Hampden?

Heisenberg
11-05-2021, 08:54 AM
Why could we potentially have fans at Pittodrie but not Hampden?

Some SFA bull**** about UEFA refusing access for the cup final which appears to have been nonesense going by the press yesterday.

hibbydad
11-05-2021, 08:57 AM
Some SFA bull**** about UEFA refusing access for the cup final which appears to have been nonesense going by the press yesterday.
Hampden

1 8 7 5
11-05-2021, 08:58 AM
Empty Hampden.

****ing Scottish Cup final being played at Pittodrie. No way.

:agree:

Stokesy's on fire
11-05-2021, 08:59 AM
Aberdeen's ground is suitable for librarians and so on

Hearts should be offering up Tynecastle :flag:

Green_one
11-05-2021, 09:02 AM
Neither - Murrayfield.

Yip:agree:

Certainly not Aberdeen !

wookie70
11-05-2021, 09:02 AM
I'd probably have voted yes to other grounds but Pittordrie would be a stupid choice. East End Park would be far better if Hampden can't take the game but it seems crazy that UEFA would deny the chance to have a practise run for the Summer

Kaff
11-05-2021, 09:02 AM
Empty Hampden, not that it's anyone's ideal scenario.

I'd be minded to have it away from Hampden if they were going to make a proper fist of it, but not for a tiny number of fans.
It would also ideally be a better and bigger stadium than pittodrie.


In order of preference:

1) 10-20k fans in Hampden
2) 500 fans in Hampden
3) 10-20k fans in another stadium
4) Empty Hampden
5) 500 fans in another stadium

You'd rather 500 fans Hampden than 10-20k elsewhere? That's bonkers

wookie70
11-05-2021, 09:03 AM
Aberdeen's ground is suitable for librarians and so on

Hearts should be offering up Tynecastle :flag:

The pitch size at Tiny would benefit St Js so I'd rather we never went down that road. It would be rather nice to lift the cup at their stadium with Sunshine on Leith belting out though

superfurryhibby
11-05-2021, 09:11 AM
One word...pitch.

Hampden's pitch is a decent surface, we are a footballing side. Our chances of winning are enhanced by a decent playing surface.

AS a few have pointed out, who would the actual "fans" be?

It's a no brainer for me.

Bill Milne
11-05-2021, 09:17 AM
Some SFA bull**** about UEFA refusing access for the cup final which appears to have been nonesense going by the press yesterday.

It is becoming clear that the SFA have been lying about the possibility of having fans at Hampden. Imagine if either or both of the Bigot Brothers were involved!

Kaff
11-05-2021, 09:18 AM
I'm no fan of Dave Cormack but we have to thank him for stirring things up, till the Aberdeen offer we were told nothing was available but now there's pressure on the SFA with a ground which has run test events being put forward.
I wouldn't choose Pittodrie over Hampden but with 4 or 5 thousand crowd I 100% would.
There's people choosing no crowd at all and even playing it at East End Park on a plastic pitch, Pittodrie will be good and the players will love the supporters there.

Edit.
I'm hoping Aberdeen will force the SFA hand and we get a crowd at Hampden, and I applaud them for that.
Cormack has been consistent about getting supporters at the games and those test events won't have made them money so possibly this offer won't either.

eastterrace
11-05-2021, 09:19 AM
The pitch size at Tiny would benefit St Js so I'd rather we never went down that road. It would be rather nice to lift the cup at their stadium with Sunshine on Leith belting out thoughsaying that we have turned them over twice at tynecastle in recent semi finals.

superfurryhibby
11-05-2021, 09:21 AM
I'm no fan of Dave Cormack but we have to thank him for stirring things up, till the Aberdeen offer we were told nothing was available but now there's pressure on the SFA with a ground which has run test events being put forward.
I wouldn't choose Pittodrie over Hampden but with 4 or 5 thousand crowd I 100% would.
There's people choosing no crowd at all and even playing it at East End Park on a plastic pitch, Pittodrie will be good and the players will love the supporters there.

Does the state of the pitch matter to the players? I would guess they would prefer a good playing surface over anything else.

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 09:22 AM
saying that we have turned them over twice at tynecastle in recent semi finals.

A good few years ago that now. They are a completely different team (and so are we).

DH1875
11-05-2021, 09:29 AM
If they have 5000 fans, how many of us would actually get in. By time tickets are split between SFA, sponsors, club sponsors, the club it won't be many. Rem St Johnstone would get half of what is ever left too.

Ozyhibby
11-05-2021, 09:36 AM
If they have 5000 fans, how many of us would actually get in. By time tickets are split between SFA, sponsors, club sponsors, the club it won't be many. Rem St Johnstone would get half of what is ever left too.

I think the clubs and SFA would be making a massive mistake if they favour those people over fans in this case.


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CapitalGreen
11-05-2021, 09:38 AM
Wherever fans can be accommodated. Not sure what sort of football fan would vote against fans attending football matches.

Ozyhibby
11-05-2021, 09:38 AM
Will all those fans who prefer to play at an empty Hampden be taking themselves out the draw for tickets if it’s moved?[emoji6][emoji23]


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The dalmeny
11-05-2021, 09:38 AM
Yip:agree:

Certainly not Aberdeen !

Won't be available due to game planned on 26/5. I always laugh that folk seem to think it'll just be made available for football.

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 09:40 AM
Will all those fans who prefer to play at an empty Hampden be taking themselves out the draw for tickets if it’s moved?[emoji6][emoji23]


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Personally I'd only go if it was with atleast one other person in my group. The chances of that happening when it's such a small number of tickets is probably slim.

I'd rather watch it in company with my friends and family rather than sit at Hampden by myself socially distanced from any other fans. Appreciate not everyone will think the same.

DH1875
11-05-2021, 09:55 AM
I think the clubs and SFA would be making a massive mistake if they favour those people over fans in this case.


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Maybe but I'm sure there would be some sort of legal retribution if they didn't.
Think about it. A full Hampden and both clubs get what, 20k tickets each. That leaves 12k tickets that goes to who knows who. Some of these people would be first in line if (fans) can get back in.

Kaff
11-05-2021, 09:57 AM
Does the state of the pitch matter to the players? I would guess they would prefer a good playing surface over anything else.

Surface at Pittodrie looked good when Dundee Utd beat them?
We'll find out tomorrow night how we do, 3-0 win and everyone will want it played there:thumbsup:

DH1875
11-05-2021, 09:58 AM
Personally I'd only go if it was with atleast one other person in my group. The chances of that happening when it's such a small number of tickets is probably slim.

I'd rather watch it in company with my friends and family rather than sit at Hampden by myself socially distanced from any other fans. Appreciate not everyone will think the same.

Your not allowed to go as part of group though. Even if fans are in you need to have 4 empty seats in either direction between You, even if your from same family, household. That's what doing for Euros anyway.

Kaff
11-05-2021, 10:01 AM
Maybe but I'm sure there would be some sort of legal retribution if they didn't.
Think about it. A full Hampden and both clubs get what, 20k tickets each. That leaves 12k tickets that goes to who knows who. Some of these people would be first in line if (fans) can get back in.

A lot of those tickets rely on having the corporate areas in the South Stand at Hampden, these are indoor catering facilities and I'm sure there will still be big restrictions on numbers for these.
We've got true football fans saying they'd rather watch on a TV with their mates than attend on their own, I can't imagine too many corporates wanting to go to the expense of this with a handful of guests?

danhibees1875
11-05-2021, 10:32 AM
You'd rather 500 fans Hampden than 10-20k elsewhere? That's bonkers

2) and 3) can be swapped around there actually. :agree:

matty_f
11-05-2021, 10:34 AM
I think Aberdeen is getting pushed through. Wouldn’t be surprised to see it there.

calumhibee1
11-05-2021, 10:36 AM
I think Aberdeen is getting pushed through. Wouldn’t be surprised to see it there.

What makes you think that?

It makes no sense for it to be at Pittodrie now that UEFA have said they’re not stopping fans being there.

Viva_Palmeiras
11-05-2021, 10:37 AM
Play anywhere Jack thinks we’ll have an advantage. Surely not Todders?!

matty_f
11-05-2021, 10:39 AM
What makes you think that?

It makes no sense for it to be at Pittodrie now that UEFA have said they’re not stopping fans being there.

Not my preference either, based on some information someone sent earlier.

EdinMike
11-05-2021, 10:40 AM
Personally I'd only go if it was with atleast one other person in my group. The chances of that happening when it's such a small number of tickets is probably slim.

I'd rather watch it in company with my friends and family rather than sit at Hampden by myself socially distanced from any other fans. Appreciate not everyone will think the same.

Here here !

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 10:40 AM
A Scottish Cup final at Pittodrie just seems wrong to me.

lord bunberry
11-05-2021, 10:44 AM
Anywhere with fans for me.

northstandhibby
11-05-2021, 10:46 AM
Pittodrie gets a distinctive no way from me. Rather the players had the opportunity to win the Scottish Cup at the national stadium. Pittodrie is a soul-less place imo and it would be silly to play it there just for the sake of letting a small amount of fans in.

JeMeSouviens
11-05-2021, 10:47 AM
Anywhere with fans for me.

Me too. Even though there's zero chance of it being me.

I think even from an on tv pov, it will be better with a few thousand fans at Pittodrie than an empty Hampden.

Kaff
11-05-2021, 10:50 AM
If we play well tomorrow and get a positive result then it will be in our favour having the game there.
Big 'IF' of course.

Pitch sizes
ER, Hampden and McDiarmid are all 105 x 68mt
Pittodrie 100 x 66mt
Tynecastle 100 x 64mt (just added for context)

Tellingly the Pittodrie pitch was rated 9th in the Premier league by the players for season 2019/20, only Tynecastle and the plastic pitches were lower rated.
Motherwell top and ER 2nd.
As a surface it looks fine at this time of year so I'm not so concerned about that tbh

Caversham Green
11-05-2021, 10:50 AM
The question shouldn't even arise. Surely it is not beyond the wit of even the simplest of men (i.e. those running the SFA and UEFA) to work out a way of getting 5,000 people safely into a stadium that holds 10 times that many, regardless of who is "in control" of that stadium. Both bodies are badly letting down their members if the final doesn't take place at Hampden in front of a reasonable amount of fans.

As a side issue why was it decided that Hampden should be handed over to UEFA so early - did someone forget that the Scottish Cup final was going to happen?

It's bad enough for us Hibbies - imagine being a St Johnstone fan. Your club has a chance of winning two major trophies in the same season for probably the only time in their history and the fans aren't going to be there for either of them.

JimBHibees
11-05-2021, 10:51 AM
Surely Dunfermline would make more sense than Aberdeen. Much easier to get to for both teams and fans. Think the grass surface there is usually in reasonable nick and not a 7 a side pitch size like PBS.

Kaff
11-05-2021, 10:52 AM
Pittodrie gets a distinctive no way from me. Rather the players had the opportunity to win the Scottish Cup at the national stadium. Pittodrie is a soul-less place imo and it would be silly to play it there just for the sake of letting a small amount of fans in.

How many is a small amount?
For me if we can get over 2000 in then I'm all for the game being played there.
I think Hampden should have minimum 8-10k in it personally.

JimBHibees
11-05-2021, 10:55 AM
If we play well tomorrow and get a positive result then it will be in our favour having the game there.
Big 'IF' of course.

Pitch sizes
ER, Hampden and McDiarmid are all 105 x 68mt
Pittodrie 100 x 66mt
Tynecastle 100 x 64mt (just added for context)

Tellingly the Pittodrie pitch was rated 9th in the Premier league by the players for season 2019/20, only Tynecastle and the plastic pitches were lower rated.
Motherwell top and ER 2nd.
As a surface it looks fine at this time of year so I'm not so concerned about that tbh

Didn't realise Aberdeen was such a small pitch. East end park 105 x 65 metres.

cabbageandribs1875
11-05-2021, 10:56 AM
football players will want to play at the National Stadium



so Hampden it is

Aldo
11-05-2021, 10:57 AM
I’m hearing that Hampden might not be released by uefa and both the ugly sisters have refused permission to use theirs.

I don’t want it to be Pittodrie or Tiniest do if push comes to shove the only other alternative for me is Murrayfield!


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Kaff
11-05-2021, 10:58 AM
Didn't realise Aberdeen was such a small pitch. East end park 105 x 65 metres.

I mistakenly thought EEP was plastic pitch earlier.
On wiki it has size as 105 x 64mt :agree:

Real Emerald
11-05-2021, 11:05 AM
A final played at Pittodrie would absolutely 100% devalue it. It’s an absolute dump and soulless place. No no no 👎👎👎👎

SHODAN
11-05-2021, 11:06 AM
Surely Dunfermline would make more sense than Aberdeen. Much easier to get to for both teams and fans. Think the grass surface there is usually in reasonable nick and not a 7 a side pitch size like PBS.

I agree for purely altruistic reasons.

Viva_Palmeiras
11-05-2021, 11:11 AM
So one of our main rivals offers their pitch for the final...

who decides on the length of the grass, the dimensions of the pitch and what about the state of todders? Call me paranoid but I’m sceptical.

all this for a lucky few? Feels a bit like strawclutching if it’s just a token 500...

why do UEFA have such sweeping powers?

If they let in 500 or 12k what’s the difference?

Real Emerald
11-05-2021, 11:12 AM
Pittodrie gets a distinctive no way from me. Rather the players had the opportunity to win the Scottish Cup at the national stadium. Pittodrie is a soul-less place imo and it would be silly to play it there just for the sake of letting a small amount of fans in.

Can you imagine asking Celtic or Rangers to play a SC final at Pittodrie. It’s a disgrace Hampden has a problem when they’re not involved. Shambles

Ozyhibby
11-05-2021, 11:17 AM
All that nonsense about buying Hampden for the good of the Scottish game and now they are saying we can’t okay cup finals with fans in it?


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Stevie Reid
11-05-2021, 11:18 AM
Want to play Saints on the big wide pitch at Hampden.

The dalmeny
11-05-2021, 11:25 AM
Maybe its been mentioned before, wasn't the UEFA thing always going to be an issue with the dates even if COVID wasn't about?

lord bunberry
11-05-2021, 11:26 AM
Me too. Even though there's zero chance of it being me.

I think even from an on tv pov, it will be better with a few thousand fans at Pittodrie than an empty Hampden.
Definitely, watching on tv is so much better with fans.

lord bunberry
11-05-2021, 11:27 AM
Maybe its been mentioned before, wasn't the UEFA thing always going to be an issue with the dates even if COVID wasn't about?
I think the final was originally supposed to happen earlier, but the lower league shut down pushed it back.

Carheenlea
11-05-2021, 11:33 AM
Taking the Scottish Cup Final to pretty much the worst stadium in the country’s top flight both in pitch standard and ground facilities would be an embarrassment for the Scottish game. If you let fans into their crumbling seated terrace thing opposite the main stand most of them would have a restricted view.

Madness to even contemplate Pittodrie and I’d hope Hibs will be opposing this strongly.

Mon Dieu4
11-05-2021, 11:45 AM
Jason Leitch has just said they can have fans at the final, it won't be at Hampden due to UEFA but if they move it then the SFA can apply to have fans there

Mon Dieu4
11-05-2021, 11:48 AM
Sturgeons says the SFA haven't been in touch as of yet

Ronniekirk
11-05-2021, 11:50 AM
Lot of game playing going on with no one taking charge to push it forward and make it happen


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mcohibs
11-05-2021, 11:51 AM
football players will want to play at the National Stadium



so Hampden it is

Football players will want to lift a trophy in front of the club's fans.

Either way, the decision probably isn't going to be based on what the players want is it?

matty_f
11-05-2021, 11:54 AM
I find it incredible that UEFA and the SFA apparently can’t find a solution or agreement to let fans in to Hampden. I would be amazed that if both parties were willing, which you’d have to assume they would be, that they couldn’t find a way to make it happen or at least present a strong case to the government.

Pretty Boy
11-05-2021, 11:57 AM
In the modern age it's not even like they need to worry about printing tickets. It could almost all be done digitally. You are allocated a seat, told when and where to turn up and have to submit proof of vaccination or a negative test by a certain time and date. FFS they could tell people to enter by a certain turnstile at a certain time and have names on a sheets of paper alphabetically.

The dalmeny
11-05-2021, 11:58 AM
I think the final was originally supposed to happen earlier, but the lower league shut down pushed it back.

cheers, makes sense

O'Rourke3
11-05-2021, 11:59 AM
Maybe its been mentioned before, wasn't the UEFA thing always going to be an issue with the dates even if COVID wasn't about?SFA have had a commercial contact in place with UEFA for over two years to allow UEFA time to prep the stadium. If there had never been a pandemic the cup final would have happened last week. I'm guessing there's a reason why they needed extra time to sort out Hampden. Suspect Wembley does not require the sample level of tarting it up or facilities.
Before the season started the folks that sort out the fixtures made the point there were fewer free weekends for any replays or postponed games because the Scottish Cup had lost about 3 weeks.

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BoomtownHibees
11-05-2021, 12:00 PM
Jason Leitch has just said they can have fans at the final, it won't be at Hampden due to UEFA but if they move it then the SFA can apply to have fans there

UEFA have said it’s nothing to do with them

Mon Dieu4
11-05-2021, 12:02 PM
UEFA have said it’s nothing to do with them

I know, shows that the SFA are hardly in touch with the government keeping them up to date with it all

cabbageandribs1875
11-05-2021, 12:05 PM
Football players will want to lift a trophy in front of the club's fans.

Either way, the decision probably isn't going to be based on what the players want is it?


as i said, footballers want to play at the national stadium, they've played all season without fans so i'm sure they will be used to it

JeMeSouviens
11-05-2021, 12:07 PM
as i said, footballers want to play at the national stadium, they've played all season without fans so i'm sure they will be used to it

Have you asked any? Because any I've heard have said it's weird without fans and they can't wait to get back in front of them again.

K-Zazu
11-05-2021, 12:08 PM
Just play the game at a full Easter road

Sean1875
11-05-2021, 12:12 PM
Just play the game at a full Easter road

Would rather not given our record at home to St J!


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mim
11-05-2021, 12:12 PM
Just play the game at a full Easter road

At last, A bit of sense.

Nakedmanoncrack
11-05-2021, 12:17 PM
Have you asked any? Because any I've heard have said it's weird without fans and they can't wait to get back in front of them again.

I don't think they mean just a few hundred of them though.

SHODAN
11-05-2021, 12:18 PM
They don't give a ****.

Andy74
11-05-2021, 12:19 PM
I realise the same goes for St Johnstone but you want the players to build up their experience of going to Hampden for these occasions and everything that goes with it routine wise.
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I think we saw a pretty composed, confident and professional performance last week there.

Taking it away from Hampden changes that and it is one less thing you know about how the players will react on the day.

If we were talking about sizeable crowds somewhere like Murrayfield then there could be more of an argument but for the sake of say 5,000 total at somewhere like Pittodrie then I don’t know if it is worth the trade off.

The experience for the fans I’m not sure it will be all that we’d expect from playing a cup final, in fact it would certainly be very different. An interesting and unique experience if we won, of course, but at this point I think just get it played at Hampden, we’ve lasted this long..

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 12:22 PM
If I was a player I'd rather win the Scottish cup at Hampden than infront of 2000 at Pittodrie. Obviously I'm not a professional football player but I would imagine there's a fair few who would agree.

WhileTheChief..
11-05-2021, 12:36 PM
I find it incredible that UEFA and the SFA apparently can’t find a solution or agreement to let fans in to Hampden. I would be amazed that if both parties were willing, which you’d have to assume they would be, that they couldn’t find a way to make it happen or at least present a strong case to the government.

Give it a day or two and that is what will happen - It’ll be at Hampden with a few thousand fans.

We can then move on to arguing amongst ourselves as to who should get to go. Gonna be fun!

Hibs90
11-05-2021, 01:09 PM
We've got people saying how much of a dump Hampden is in other threads now begging for the final to be kept at Hampden.... Couldn't make it up. The ones saying no to Aberdeen are the ones who have never been to Aberdeen or have any intention of going to Aberdeen as two and a half hours drive is too much trouble....

That's just rubbish. I've been to Aberdeen hundreds of times but a national cup final should always be played at the national stadium.


the SFA should be pushing like **** to get fans at Hampden if it's possible, but they won't because they are hopeless.

Onion
11-05-2021, 01:19 PM
That's just rubbish. I've been to Aberdeen hundreds of times but a national cup final should always be played at the national stadium.


the SFA should be pushing like **** to get fans at Hampden if it's possible, but they won't because they are hopeless.

If we do end up with no fans, then there should be absolutely no SFA Executives, managers, OF Lovies, admins or hangers-on at this Cup Final either. If they cannot be bothered or are incapable of fighting the corner for the fans of the two clubs at this key match, then they should have to decency to stay away as well.

Media should be asking the questions.

Caversham Green
11-05-2021, 01:32 PM
UEFA have said it’s nothing to do with them

If UEFA have said that they are wrong. The primary reason this debate is taking place is that they have taken over Hampden and are preventing access to fans for their domestic cup final. If they are doing nothing to help one of their member associations resolve the situation then they are negligent and just as culpable as the SFA.

The Baldmans Comb
11-05-2021, 01:49 PM
Moving to Aberdeen just to accommodate a few thousand fans each would very much devalue the final.

The SFA, SPFL, sponsors and the clubs and the fans have done a great job making the Scottish Cup final a real showpiece event and an end of season highlight and it belongs in the National Stadium.

The English competition and actual cup final for example as been gradually undermined over the years which is very surprising given English people's rich football history and heritage but I wouldn't want Scotland to go down this route by setting such precedents.

Tommy75
11-05-2021, 01:52 PM
Would prefer an empty Hampden.

Has it been reported why the The Rangers and Celtc said no to their grounds being used. I take it there has been a lack of media scrutiny over this? Imagine Hibs said no, we'd be getting abuse from the media.

Said on another thread, I'd love it if the game was moved out of Scotland to the north of England. Plenty of good stadiums down there. Somewhere like St James's Park would be amazing and is only a couple of hours drive away.

JeMeSouviens
11-05-2021, 02:01 PM
Would prefer an empty Hampden.

Has it been reported why the The Rangers and Celtc said no to their grounds being used. I take it there has been a lack of media scrutiny over this? Imagine Hibs said no, we'd be getting abuse from the media.

Said on another thread, I'd love it if the game was moved out of Scotland to the north of England. Plenty of good stadiums down there. Somewhere like St James's Park would be amazing and is only a couple of hours drive away.

Re-laying their pitches I think.

Billy Whizz
11-05-2021, 02:02 PM
Re-laying their pitches I think.

It’s been a bad winter for pitches, some of the worst we’ve seen in years

calumhibee1
11-05-2021, 02:02 PM
Would prefer an empty Hampden.

Has it been reported why the The Rangers and Celtc said no to their grounds being used. I take it there has been a lack of media scrutiny over this? Imagine Hibs said no, we'd be getting abuse from the media.

Said on another thread, I'd love it if the game was moved out of Scotland to the north of England. Plenty of good stadiums down there. Somewhere like St James's Park would be amazing and is only a couple of hours drive away.

I think it’s that ibrox and/or Celtic park are relaying their turf before European football starts

hhibs
11-05-2021, 03:08 PM
I'm no fan of Dave Cormack but we have to thank him for stirring things up, till the Aberdeen offer we were told nothing was available but now there's pressure on the SFA with a ground which has run test events being put forward.
I wouldn't choose Pittodrie over Hampden but with 4 or 5 thousand crowd I 100% would.
There's people choosing no crowd at all and even playing it at East End Park on a plastic pitch, Pittodrie will be good and the players will love the supporters there.

Edit.
I'm hoping Aberdeen will force the SFA hand and we get a crowd at Hampden, and I applaud them for that.
Cormack has been consistent about getting supporters at the games and those test events won't have made them money so possibly this offer won't either.




Cormack has been consistent alright ,a consistent self serving, short sighted twat. IMO

DH1875
11-05-2021, 03:35 PM
Are folk genuinely saying that IF offered a ticket for the game they wouldn't go if their mate never had a ticket? No offence but if I somehow manage it, it'll be a case of :bye: :greengrin

Since90+2
11-05-2021, 03:39 PM
Are folk genuinely saying that IF offered a ticket for the game they wouldn't go if their mate never had a ticket? No offence but if I somehow manage it, it'll be a case of :bye: :greengrin

Personally I'd rather spend it with friends and family in a house or a pub and watch it together rather than travel through to Glasgow myself and sit on my tod atleast 2 metres away from anyone else.

Aldo
11-05-2021, 04:15 PM
Are folk genuinely saying that IF offered a ticket for the game they wouldn't go if their mate never had a ticket? No offence but if I somehow manage it, it'll be a case of :bye: :greengrin

I would give it to someone else.

I will be spending the afternoon with my Dad, who has been shielding and I’ve not seen since before Christmas!


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Mon Dieu4
11-05-2021, 04:23 PM
Are folk genuinely saying that IF offered a ticket for the game they wouldn't go if their mate never had a ticket? No offence but if I somehow manage it, it'll be a case of :bye: :greengrin

I go the the game with 5 mates plus their kids, if we don't all get to go then standing in an empty stadium 2m away from anyone else holds zero appeal to me cup final or not

We have already decided that it's all or nothing as we are all watching it in the pub anyway

AgentDaleCooper
11-05-2021, 04:36 PM
My main concern is winning it, and i think the pitch at hampden will make this more likely

Keith_M
11-05-2021, 05:41 PM
How about Newcastle or Sunderland?

Pagan Hibernia
11-05-2021, 05:49 PM
I think this thread and poll is almost redundant now.

feel free to delete it, whoever has the power or inclination to do so

007
11-05-2021, 06:00 PM
I think this thread and poll is almost redundant now.

feel free to delete it, whoever has the power or inclination to do so

Was just about to say the same.

Eyrie
11-05-2021, 06:37 PM
Would prefer an empty Hampden.

Has it been reported why the The Rangers and Celtc said no to their grounds being used. I take it there has been a lack of media scrutiny over this? Imagine Hibs said no, we'd be getting abuse from the media.

Said on another thread, I'd love it if the game was moved out of Scotland to the north of England. Plenty of good stadiums down there. Somewhere like St James's Park would be amazing and is only a couple of hours drive away.


Re-laying their pitches I think.

They don't give a crap about Scottish football. I'm sure they could delay the pitch work for one week if they wanted, and would do if they thought they had a chance of playing in the final.

MunsterHibee
11-05-2021, 09:27 PM
The sheep only offered Pittodrie because it's the closest thing they'll get to seeing silverware this season.

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Ronniekirk
11-05-2021, 10:15 PM
There are going to be son few fans there it will look empty No way should it be any less than the attendance for the Euro game


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