Ryan porteous

[DIXIHIBS]

Firstly well done hibs yesterday. Solid performance and least nervous last 20 minutes at hampden for a while. Young ryan though appears to be increasingly erratic. His mistakes over the last few weeks have been well highlighted and yesterday he seemed to lose his man on several occasions but more concerning was his temperament. After his booking to then kick the ball away which could easily have been a sending off could have completely changed the game. He is a great young player but he doesnt seem to learn, or maybe im being a bit unfair.

[hibee316]

Fine line between having a competitive edge over other players and taking it too far.
I think he definitely treads this line.
And to be fair, even the top players make mistakes, but I think overall he has become more consistent.

[Borderhibbie76]

He was giving me the fear yesterday if I'm being honest was a bit all over the place couple of times he we caught in no man's land and his distribution wasn't great neither. Felt like I breathed easier when Daz came on. Luv Porto but he's gone a bit off form again

[lucky]

I said in another thread Porto played ok yesterday but Daz is more solid in defending but Porto is better with the ball at his feet. As for his temperament, not many were complaining when he was winding Rangers players up. He’s a young player who is getting better and will improve even more.

[Onion]

There's an outstanding footballer in there, but he needs to improve his own discipline, firm coaching and to learn quickly if he's to go further in the game.

[GIBBY NEWTON]

Young laddie as we all know plays for the jersey & gives his all. Needs to do the easy things get back to basics. Needs mentoring if not already in place ? I feel defensively that JRs tactics as a 3 or 4 have us playing as individuals( unlike Live/St J defences of late)Going forward good but defensively lacking as a unit with at times poor support from mfield. Hopefully Ryan & the rest of our young players are here for the forseeable future playing in Europe as Scottish Cup winners 2021.
Firstly well done hibs yesterday. Solid performance and least nervous last 20 minutes at hampden for a while. Young ryan though appears to be increasingly erratic. His mistakes over the last few weeks have been well highlighted and yesterday he seemed to lose his man on several occasions but more concerning was his temperament. After his booking to then kick the ball away which could easily have been a sending off could have completely changed the game. He is a great young player but he doesnt seem to learn, or maybe im being a bit unfair.

[calumhibee1]

He was giving me the fear yesterday if I'm being honest was a bit all over the place couple of times he we caught in no man's land and his distribution wasn't great neither. Felt like I breathed easier when Daz came on. Luv Porto but he's gone a bit off form again

Yup, he’s definitely not playing his best stuff just now.

Daz should be in for the remainder of the league games imo. If he performs then he’s in for the final.

[WhileTheChief..]

There’s players 10 years older than him that still make daft mistakes.

No problem with the odd rush of blood to the head, we need characters in the team and he is one.

He’s doing tremendously well for his age and the position he plays in and will get better over time.

[mcohibs]

I said in another thread Porto played ok yesterday but Daz is more solid in defending but Porto is better with the ball at his feet. As for his temperament, not many were complaining when he was winding Rangers players up. He’s a young player who is getting better and will improve even more.

To be fair, quite a few of us were concerned with his temperament a year and a half ago i.e.the reckless and uneccesary sending off against Rangers.

Seems to be the narrative on here that Porteous is improving all the time and becoming more level headed. Tbh I don't really see it. The mistake last week could have happened to anyone really but he gets caught flat footed too often, steps off his man. Another ref would (and should) have given him a second yellow for booting the ball away yesterday.

[Crunchie]

There’s players 10 years older than him that still make daft mistakes.

No problem with the odd rush of blood to the head, we need characters in the team and he is one.

He’s doing tremendously well for his age and the position he plays in and will get better over time.
:top marksAt least he tries to play the ball out or show a bit of composure, the same with Doig. The more experienced Hanlon was treating the ball like a hot potato that last 20 minutes when he's the one who should be showing the composure, he runs around pointing but never seems to open his mouth, he should be doing way more imo to help the youngsters, something I'm positive Daz would do.

[easty]

:top marksAt least he tries to play the ball out or show a bit of composure, the same with Doig. The more experienced Hanlon was treating the ball like a hot potato that last 20 minutes when he's the one who should be showing the composure, he runs around pointing but never seems to open his mouth, he should be doing way more imo to help the youngsters, something I'm positive Daz would do.

Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.

[Eyrie]

A referee is not going to give a second yellow for kicking the ball away with so long left to play.

[Crunchie]

Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.
On a thread that's having a go at possibly our best CH in a generation, only making comparisons my friend, not having a go.

[Northernhibee]

Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.

Hanlon was excellent yesterday.

[MWHIBBIES]

His distribution was terrible early on. Seriously awful and was the only way United were getting chances.

I'd strongly consider Darren for the final tbh. But I think Ryan will start.

[Peevemor]

I got the impression that Ryan was too up for it yesterday. He was far better last week despite the howler.

[J-C]

Hibs players will always make wee errors and that's why they play at Hibs and not at a much higher level, Ryan showed fantastic promise and has made big strides since he became a regular squad player but he still has that rush of blood that hampers him. He's no a wee laddie any more and if he has aspirations of going further in the game he has to start knuckling down to cut out these errors, I think big Daz showed Ryan exactly what he needs to do by improving his positional sense and mental strength during a game, 2 parts of his game which is weak.

[Irish_Steve]

I love Porto too but I think the wee mistakes are beginning to creep in too much.

He reminds me a bit of James McPake. we all thought McPake was great because he would make fantastic last ditch tackles, however, that was because he was out of position in the first place.

As someone else said, maybe Porto was too up for it yesterday but we did look better when Daz came on - interesting conundrum for JR to sort

[Since452]

Now is the time to sell him. He's the right age and i don't see him improving much now. His stock right now is the highest it's going to be with us.

[Bristolhibby]

Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.

TBF he and as others have said, he’s the player where I suck in my breath.

Not saying he’s a bad player, far from it, but there’s no room for error when you are a centre half.

I think Mike’s Stewart said it, Sparky was playing on the inside shoulder every time and running channels. He needed to be aware of that.

J

[hibbydog]

:top marksAt least he tries to play the ball out or show a bit of composure, the same with Doig. The more experienced Hanlon was treating the ball like a hot potato that last 20 minutes when he's the one who should be showing the composure, he runs around pointing but never seems to open his mouth, he should be doing way more imo to help the youngsters, something I'm positive Daz would do.

Fair enough.

The point about treating the ball like a hot potato isn’t just Hanlon though. I’m often screaming at the telly for Hibs to find a pass and keep a hold of the damn ball when we’re winning with not long to go. We’ve a terrible habit of ‘anywhere will do’ which just invites more pressure.

[CMurdoch]

He was rightly criticised all week in the media.
All that has an affect on the person being criticised but after yesterday it will be out of his system and replaced with thoughts of his injury.
I missed the kicking the ball away incident and trust he won't do it again.
As for those saying we should sell him now because his reputation is as high as it will get. That makes no sense. It is probably the opposite.
He has great footballing ability and is lacking a little in his decision making. I am confident he will continue to improve that aspect of the game.
He no longer clobbers folk needlessly and his decision making will similarly improve. Ross appears to be the right man to take him to the next stage.

[Stevie Reid]

Ryan is a concern for me right now. Daz was superb yesterday when he came on.

[Pretty Boy]

If we are up against St Johnstone I would be tempted to go with Daz.

They are very physical, play a lot of balls into the box and are dangerous at set pieces. That kind of defending is bread and butter for Daz.

You also have to wonder if his previous errors v St Johnstone will play on RPs mind. He seemed a bit over pumped up yesterday and was doing a few of the silly things he has largely cut out of his game. His booking, as one example, was because of his own indecisiveness then jumping in and selling himself.

A tough decision for the manager.

[J-C]

Ryan is a concern for me right now. Daz was superb yesterday when he came on.


Daz is big, strong and does the basics right and positionally very good.

[Stevie Reid]

Daz is big, strong and does the basics right and positionally very good.

Absolutely. We can’t afford any mistakes in the cup final, and Daz is much less likely to make any.

Tbf I seem to remember DM having an absolute mare against St. J when he came on for Hanlon in the 2-2 game at ER earlier this season - but I can’t think of many others in his five years here.

I have a huge amount of trust in Daz, more so than I do Ryan at this moment in time - and I love RP.

[RyeSloan]

Absolutely. We can’t afford any mistakes in the cup final, and Daz is much less likely to make any.

Tbf I seem to remember DM having an absolute mare against St. J when he came on for Hanlon in the 2-2 game at ER earlier this season - but I can’t think of many others in his five years here.

I have a huge amount of trust in Daz, more so than I do Ryan at this moment in time - and I love RP.

Was it not Daz that gave the ball away against Aberdeen 20 seconds into the semi final?

All players make mistakes.

As for Porto reminding someone of James McPake...

[Stevie Reid]

Was it not Daz that gave the ball away against Aberdeen 20 seconds into the semi final?

All players make mistakes.

As for Porto reminding someone of James McPake...

Yes, there were a few in the lead up to that goal, but Daz was the one that led directly to the goal.

All players do make mistakes. I very much rate Ryan but he makes more than Daz. Last weekend was one of the worst I’ve seen from a Hibs player, and I thought he was shaky yesterday. DM was excellent when he came on.

Both are hard as nails and a decent goal threat. Ryan is a better footballer than Daz, but DM is no nonsense and has a much better temperament. I trust him more than Porto at this moment in time, and think his low risk approach is more suited to a final against Saints.

I think as things stand that JR will play Ryan though.

[mjhibby]

If we are up against St Johnstone I would be tempted to go with Daz.

They are very physical, play a lot of balls into the box and are dangerous at set pieces. That kind of defending is bread and butter for Daz.

You also have to wonder if his previous errors v St Johnstone will play on RPs mind. He seemed a bit over pumped up yesterday and was doing a few of the silly things he has largely cut out of his game. His booking, as one example, was because of his own indecisiveness then jumping in and selling himself.

A tough decision for the manager.

Big call for jr to make. I’d be radical and play both with mcginn rwb.

[nonshinyfinish]

Big call for jr to make. I’d be radical and play both with mcginn rwb.

Unless there's a permutation I haven't figured out, McGinn at RWB would mean leaving out one of Nisbet, Doidge and Boyle – there's plenty to discuss in midfield and defence, but I think one thing that's certain is that those three all start if fit.

[superfurryhibby]

I'm tending towards playing MacGregor. TBH. Sorry Porto, but you were playing close to edge yesterday and that could have cost us big time. It wasn't necessary.

MacGregor is equally physical and does the basics of defending better. Given St Johnston's reliance on high balls into the box, I would be playing the man best suited for the job.

[Hibernian Verse]

Unless there's a permutation I haven't figured out, McGinn at RWB would mean leaving out one of Nisbet, Doidge and Boyle – there's plenty to discuss in midfield and defence, but I think one thing that's certain is that those three all start if fit.

I don't think midfield is an area of contention at all. Hallberg keeps his place at Pitoddrie and has to give a similar performance to keep it, IMO.

Macey

McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig

Irvine
Newell
Hallberg

Boyle
Nisbet
Doidge

[HibeeHibernian4]

Was it not Daz that gave the ball away against Aberdeen 20 seconds into the semi final?

All players make mistakes.

As for Porto reminding someone of James McPake...

12 seconds and no, it wasn't. It was John McGinn and (sort of) Marvin Bartley.

[PH91]

I'm tending towards playing MacGregor. TBH. Sorry Porto, but you were playing close to edge yesterday and that could have cost us big time. It wasn't necessary.

MacGregor is equally physical and does the basics of defending better. Given St Johnston's reliance on high balls into the box, I would be playing the man best suited for the job.

Ross has favoured porto over daz for almost the entire season, which has us sitting 3rd and in the cup final. He has earned his place. There is next to no chance that he is going to be dropped if fit.

[Hibernian Verse]

12 seconds and no, it wasn't. It was John McGinn and (sort of) Marvin Bartley.

McGinn lost the ball, Bartley passed it to McGregor who, instead of smashing it up the park, passed it to Rooney.

Anyway, that day we lost and subsequently I went out to drown my sorrows and met my now Mrs in a pub that I probably wouldn't have been in at the West End instead of Leith Walk where I'd have headed if we had won.

So cheers Daz!

[superfurryhibby]

Ross has favoured porto over daz for almost the entire season, which has us sitting 3rd and in the cup final. He has earned his place. There is next to no chance that he is going to be dropped if fit.

Probably so, but it's a discussion and I'm just giving my view.

Porto's error last week could cost us third place. There's a lot at stake in the next few games. I just want to see the best player for the job in the side. At the moment Porto is a liability?

Ross has also favoured Drey Wright and played him regularly when nearly every HIbs fan can see that he's pretty mediocre. Managers have their foibles and Ross is no different.

[nonshinyfinish]

I don't think midfield is an area of contention at all. Hallberg keeps his place at Pitoddrie and has to give a similar performance to keep it, IMO.

You have Newell in your team – many posters on here disagree with that. You don't have Gogic – many posters on here consider him essential to the midfield. Many posters agree that Hallberg deserves a chance after his SF performance, but prior to that game it was common to read that he contributes nothing, isn't good enough, should be allowed to leave in the summer etc. Pretty much every suggested team I've seen has Irvine in it.

The four of them can't all play. My point is not about which opinions are right or wrong, just that from the discussion on here the make-up of the midfield is very much contentious. (Whether JR thinks so or not is a different question.)

Conversely I can't think of reading any suggestion of leaving out any of Boyle/Nisbet/Doidge.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Anyway, that day we lost and subsequently I went out to drown my sorrows and met my now Mrs in a pub that I probably wouldn't have been in at the West End instead of Leith Walk where I'd have headed if we had won.

So cheers Daz!

He's so handsome that he can win the love of a good woman on behalf of us mortals. :greengrin

[PH91]

Probably so, but it's a discussion and I'm just giving my view.

Porto's error last week could week have cost us third place. There's a lot at stake in the next few games. I just want to see the best player for the job in the side. At the moment Porto is a liability?

Ross has also favoured Drey Wright and played him regularly when nearly every HIbs fan can see that he's pretty mediocre. Managers have their foibles and Ross is no different.

I think it is a stretch to say wright has been a regular.

I don't think porto is a liability. He has made a few mistakes over the season, as most players do, and obviously made that howler the other week but over the season has performed very well, to the point he has been in and around the scotland squad and has english championship teams after him.

I don't for a second think daz would let us down if he did play by the way but he has barely played all season and hasn't played 90 minutes for months. I just don't think there is any chance he will be brought in for the biggest game of the season. I hope he does get on the park though and if we were going to score a last minute winner again it would be a toss up between him and hanlon as the players i would most like to score it!

[superfurryhibby]

I think it is a stretch to say wright has been a regular.

I don't think porto is a liability. He has made a few mistakes over the season, as most players do, and obviously made that howler the other week but over the season has performed very well, to the point he has been in and around the scotland squad and has english championship teams after him.

I don't for a second think daz would let us down if he did play by the way but he has barely played all season and hasn't played 90 minutes for months. I just don't think there is any chance he will be brought in for the biggest game of the season. I hope he does get on the park though and if we were going to score a last minute winner again it would be a toss up between him and hanlon as the players i would most like to score it!

Wright has played in 27 games this season, either as a starter or a sub. That makes him a regular first team squad member, one who's had plenty of game time ( I think he's ranked 11 in terms of minutes on the pitch).

Porto has had a mixed season, he's not become the player I hoped he would become. That's not to say he won't keep progressing, but he needs to do better than his recent form (not just the howler that could still cost us dearly). He was treading on thin ice on Saturday. If he's out injured for Wednesday, I'll back Daz to come in and play well.

We're at the business end of the season. I'd be playing the best men for each specific challenge and I suspect v St Johnston, we will have most of the possession. They will sit deep and use set plays and crosses flung into the box as their main offensive ploy. Daz is a better man marker and more reliable. All that said, if Porto is fit, he'll play.

I like the idea of Daz coming on with 15 minutes to go and knocking in the decisive goal. I'll settle for that scenario :wink:

[Since452]

Becoming increasingly worried about his awareness and lapses in concentration.

[Calidad]

I love his confidence. If anyone in the side is to make a mistake, brush it aside and move on, it’s him.

Positionally he needs to improve, and his decision making needs refinement. But that’s natural at his age. I’d be sad to see him go, particularly as Hanlon and Daz are getting on. I think he’d benefit us and himself by spending another season here.

[Callum_62]

I do think folk are being overly critical of Porto

Id be inclinded to play him if fit - Daz came on and done OK but he also lost a few headers too

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[Zazu62]

Play 3 at the back?

[BoomtownHibees]

Play 3 at the back?

We do that quite often. But it would be Mcginn, Hanlon and then one of Porto/McGregor. I think JR will stick with Porto