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AugustaHibs
08-05-2021, 09:52 PM
Right, who starts in a fortnight?

Hibbyradge
08-05-2021, 09:53 PM
Gogic

IberianHibernian
08-05-2021, 09:55 PM
Both

superfurryhibby
08-05-2021, 09:56 PM
Hallberg starts

Vault Boy
08-05-2021, 09:57 PM
Tough one after that semi performance from Melker. Base it upon the next couple of league games I think.

neil7908
08-05-2021, 10:02 PM
Whoever we play will sit back and try to hit us on the counter. Imo we'll need players who can help us break down the opposition and Hallberg fits the bill.

Right now I'd be inclined to give Hallberg and Murphy a chance in the next couple of games and see if they can grab it.

Hiber-nation
08-05-2021, 10:04 PM
Gogic without a doubt.

The Modfather
08-05-2021, 10:05 PM
Probably both & Irvine IMO. Although Gogic, Irvine and Murphy are possibly our best and most balanced 3.

neil7908
08-05-2021, 10:09 PM
Probably both & Irvine IMO. Although Gogic, Irvine and Murphy are possibly our best and most balanced 3.

Newell's place must be under threat. He's not had the best second half of the season and as it stands I'd be seriously thinking about how to fit Murphy and/or Hallberg in the team. With Boyle and Irvine untouchable imo,that doesn't leave many other players to miss out.

The Sundance Kid
08-05-2021, 10:11 PM
Gogic

gaz1875
08-05-2021, 10:30 PM
Both for me with Newell rested.

hibbysam
08-05-2021, 10:31 PM
Newell's place must be under threat. He's not had the best second half of the season and as it stands I'd be seriously thinking about how to fit Murphy and/or Hallberg in the team. With Boyle and Irvine untouchable imo,that doesn't leave many other players to miss out.

Newell was very effective until his injury today. If he’s fit he plays the final.

RIP
08-05-2021, 10:35 PM
Both if against St J

California-Hibs
08-05-2021, 11:21 PM
Both for me with Newell rested.

Newell will play in the Final.

CmoantheHibs
08-05-2021, 11:42 PM
Newell was very effective until his injury today. If he’s fit he plays the final.
Agree. I think Gogic has been fantastic but it is down to him or Halberg for 1spot.

hibee_gaffney
08-05-2021, 11:48 PM
Halberg had a great game today, showed a lot of fight throughout and the energy levels were fantastic. In my eyes though Gogic would deserve the start based on his performances throughout the season. One of JR’s best signings in his time here.


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500miles
08-05-2021, 11:52 PM
Gogic was really stupid getting himself sent off. Probably couldn't complain if he lost his place.

Given Hallberg will pull defenders about, take shots from outside the box and can deliver a better set piece than Boyle, I wouldn't be surprised if we looked to start him against a rigid St Js team.

Jim44
09-05-2021, 12:13 AM
Gogic was really stupid getting himself sent off. Probably couldn't complain if he lost his place.

Given Hallberg will pull defenders about, take shots from outside the box and can deliver a better set piece than Boyle, I wouldn't be surprised if we looked to start him against a rigid St Js team.

When do we play St Js?

B.H.F.C
09-05-2021, 01:10 AM
On what I’ve seen recently, both. No Newell. Think he’ll be toiling injury wise anyway.

FilipinoHibs
09-05-2021, 01:44 AM
Halkberg. We need as many footballers as possible to break down ST Johnstone. ST Mirren don't have a robust midfield. A forward thinking player like Hallberg can help overrun them quickly.

J-C
09-05-2021, 05:23 AM
I'd play both with Newell making way.

Dazzjw1875
09-05-2021, 05:32 AM
My only concern Is Gogic is almost getting booked every game for sometimes a needless incident, and I think He could be targeted in final as a potential person to wind up. I would play hallberg in next two league games and judge him on them then decide.

Unseen work
09-05-2021, 05:55 AM
Gogic has been brilliant for me all season, really impressive and is actually better on the ball than I gave him credit for.

We’ve not had much joy with St Johnstone this season though and I wonder if we play them in the final if it’s maybe a case of switching it up and trying someone a bit different by starting Hallberg.

We play the ball a lot quicker sharper with Hallberg and he also tries to get in behind, that could be something that changes the game against St Johnstone and stretches them.

Percy Vere
09-05-2021, 08:49 AM
I’d like to see Gogic, Newell and Murphy in the starting 11.
I like Hallberg, so if Newells injured he’s in too.

Hibee Mac
09-05-2021, 08:53 AM
Hallberg had a good game yesterday but for me Gogic has been fantastic most of the season so deserves the place.

Wouldn't be totally against Ross switching it up a bit and playing Hallberg if we came up against St Johnstone in the final though

Jones28
09-05-2021, 08:57 AM
A three of Irvine, Hallberg and Gogic for me.

makaveli1875
09-05-2021, 08:59 AM
Gogic has to start , regardless of who we play .

blackpoolhibs
09-05-2021, 09:01 AM
On what I’ve seen recently, both. No Newell. Think he’ll be toiling injury wise anyway.


I'd play both with Newell making way.


A three of Irvine, Hallberg and Gogic for me.
:agree:

JimBHibees
09-05-2021, 09:15 AM
Gogic will be in but great to see Hallberg playing so well. Looks like Newell may be struggling for the final anyway so Hallberg looks like in good form as a ready made replacement.

Eyrie
09-05-2021, 09:32 AM
A three of Irvine, Hallberg and Gogic for me.

Based on yesterday, I'd agree.

500miles
09-05-2021, 09:34 AM
When do we play St Js?

There was an if in there :wink:

BoomtownHibees
09-05-2021, 09:37 AM
Both for me with Newell rested.

You don’t “rest” someone for a cup final which is the last game of the season.

Newell would be on the bench for me, Hallberg and Gogic both playing

The Baldmans Comb
09-05-2021, 09:45 AM
Newell's place after yet another lacklustre game is seriously under threat as up until yesterday the manager didn't fancy Halberg at all.

Halbergs outstanding performance gives him a real chance of some additional game time in the run in but if he makes the team for the final it won't be at the expense of Gogic who is a shoe in.

hibbysam
09-05-2021, 09:48 AM
Based on yesterday, I'd agree.

If it’s based on yesterday then Gogic doesn’t get back in.

blackpoolhibs
09-05-2021, 09:52 AM
If it’s based on yesterday then Gogic doesn’t get back in.

FFS not another suspension.:greengrin

gaz1875
09-05-2021, 09:54 AM
You don’t “rest” someone for a cup final which is the last game of the season.

Newell would be on the bench for me, Hallberg and Gogic both playing

I was being polite using rest instead of benched.

Big_Franck
09-05-2021, 10:06 AM
Hallberg did well again yesterday but I'd still be going with Gogic, Irvine and Newell if they are all fit.

bigwheel
09-05-2021, 10:08 AM
Will probably depend on who we play ..St Johnstone have a strong midfield engine room. It would be more likely Gogic would play. Perhaps St Mirren you could go with either of them. Was delighted for Hallberg though , showed he is a quality player yesterday. Has been unlucky not to get more game time .

Pretty Boy
09-05-2021, 10:39 AM
If it's St Johnstone I'd start with both.

St Mirren same team as yesterday.

Since452
09-05-2021, 10:40 AM
Gogic. Gogic is first choice, Hallberg is a very important squad player.

bigwheel
09-05-2021, 10:42 AM
If it's St Johnstone I'd start with both.

St Mirren same team as yesterday.

Who would you drop, to start with both


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Dmas
09-05-2021, 12:26 PM
I was really impressed with hallberg yesterday was questioning him ahead of magennis when the line up was announced but it was proved the right decision, can’t really remember a better performance from him off the top of my head, that being said if it’s a choice between him or gogic I’d play gogic so important all season for us

Pretty Boy
09-05-2021, 12:34 PM
Who would you drop, to start with both


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Of the 2 who played yesterday, Newell.

Gogic and Irvine worked well together when he was out injured with Murphy in there as well. I don't think Irvine and Newell works particularly well as part of the same midfield.

Irvine has had a bit of stick lately but he was everywhere yesterday. I don't think there was a 2nd ball that he didn't win.

MrRobot
09-05-2021, 02:56 PM
Hallberg for me.

blackpoolhibs
09-05-2021, 03:26 PM
Of the 2 who played yesterday, Newell.

Gogic and Irvine worked well together when he was out injured with Murphy in there as well. I don't think Irvine and Newell works particularly well as part of the same midfield.

Irvine has had a bit of stick lately but he was everywhere yesterday. I don't think there was a 2nd ball that he didn't win.

I agree, and the reason i agree is Newell's first instinct is to turn backwards with the ball and it slows the game down giving the opposition time to get back into shape, Hallberg looks forward more often and puts us on the front foot quicker.

h1bs4life
09-05-2021, 03:38 PM
A three of Irvine, Hallberg and Gogic for me.


That's the 3 I would play . Newelll has been pretty poor recently. It's going to be a battle in midfield.

Stevie Reid
09-05-2021, 03:39 PM
Of the 2 who played yesterday, Newell.

Gogic and Irvine worked well together when he was out injured with Murphy in there as well. I don't think Irvine and Newell works particularly well as part of the same midfield.

Irvine has had a bit of stick lately but he was everywhere yesterday. I don't think there was a 2nd ball that he didn't win.

Agreed. Love Joe but we didn’t miss him when he went off yesterday, and he hasn’t had a great few weeks. I’d fancy that midfield three against St. Johnstone more than Joe being in there.

bigwheel
09-05-2021, 04:04 PM
Of the 2 who played yesterday, Newell.

Gogic and Irvine worked well together when he was out injured with Murphy in there as well. I don't think Irvine and Newell works particularly well as part of the same midfield.

Irvine has had a bit of stick lately but he was everywhere yesterday. I don't think there was a 2nd ball that he didn't win.

That would be a big shout ..for me, when Newall plays he sets the whole tempo for our game . Can’t possibly leave a fit Newall out of our starting 11 for a cup final ...

Eyrie
09-05-2021, 04:10 PM
That would be a big shout ..for me, when Newall plays he sets the whole tempo for our game . Can’t possibly leave a fit Newall out of our starting 11 for a cup final ...

The downside with Newell setting the tempo is whether that tempo is quick enough to exploit the half gaps that are all we'll get against a well drilled St Johnstone side.

Hallberg looked to play a quicker game yesterday, hence the suggestion that he could be picked.

B.H.F.C
09-05-2021, 04:11 PM
That would be a big shout ..for me, when Newall plays he sets the whole tempo for our game . Can’t possibly leave a fit Newall out of our starting 11 for a cup final ...

I think Newell being in the middle of the park has really suited St Johnstone in the last two games. They’ve been happy to let him have the ball and pass it side to side or back to our centre halves. In the semi final, when Newell wasn’t playing, we actually carried much more of a threat despite the score line.

If he’s fit, he will play though.

blackpoolhibs
09-05-2021, 04:12 PM
That would be a big shout ..for me, when Newall plays he sets the whole tempo for our game . Can’t possibly leave a fit Newall out of our starting 11 for a cup final ...

Aye ponderous, he's been crap for weeks for me, and even if fit i'd bench him.

green.oracle
09-05-2021, 04:12 PM
On recent form, has to be both Gogic and Hallberg with Irvine.

Newell has been pants since he came back in February. Also before his injury yesterday he had contributed nothing (again).

IMHO

Billy Whizz
09-05-2021, 04:16 PM
If play both of them v Aberdeen, Ferguson etc like to put the boot in

Northernhibee
09-05-2021, 04:32 PM
Murphy and Hallberg will be two important players for me, we need players who can cope with being pressed and they are two that spring to mind.

The real question is Irvine, Gogic or Newell.

Allez Hibs
09-05-2021, 06:44 PM
On recent form, has to be both Gogic and Hallberg with Irvine.

Newell has been pants since he came back in February. Also before his injury yesterday he had contributed nothing (again).

IMHO

Agree with this 👍

bigwheel
09-05-2021, 06:46 PM
Aye ponderous, he's been crap for weeks for me, and even if fit i'd bench him.

Think you need to get a new set of glasses BH ...

Glory Lurker
09-05-2021, 06:54 PM
I'd hate to be JR. Big decisions to be made.

B.H.F.C
09-05-2021, 07:02 PM
Aye ponderous, he's been crap for weeks for me, and even if fit i'd bench him.

Agree with this. Having plenty of the ball isn’t the same as dictating the game. Last two games against St Johnstone they’ve been happy to let us have the ball in there after scoring relatively early. Kept their shape, watched us pass the ball side to side, slowly, and had very little real defending to do as a result.

Fergos
09-05-2021, 07:18 PM
JN hasn’t been at his best recently but to say he offered nothing yesterday is a bit harsh, he started the move for the second goal with his tackle then pass to Nisbet.

That being said Halberg was excellent and I reckon he is better suited, alongside Gogic and JI for the Final.

GGTTH

basehibby
09-05-2021, 08:24 PM
Gogic was the man in possession and is probably still narrowly ahead in the queue to start the final, but Hallberg was given a window of opportunity in the semi and has certainly pushed himself right into the picture. There are two more games to put down a marker and I'm sure Ross will be keeping an open mind.

NB - I seem to be in a minority in not being the slightest bit surprised to see Melker putting in an impressive all round performance. For me he's been putting in that kind of performance whenever called upon, all season. Others have been writing him off as not good enough - definitely do NOT agree. That's not to say I don't value Gogic also - who brings valuable steely qualities to our midfield. Getting the balance of qualities right is going to be the trick.

jacomo
10-05-2021, 07:25 AM
Gogic was the man in possession and is probably still narrowly ahead in the queue to start the final, but Hallberg was given a window of opportunity in the semi and has certainly pushed himself right into the picture. There are two more games to put down a marker and I'm sure Ross will be keeping an open mind.

NB - I seem to be in a minority in not being the slightest bit surprised to see Melker putting in an impressive all round performance. For me he's been putting in that kind of performance whenever called upon, all season. Others have been writing him off as not good enough - definitely do NOT agree. That's not to say I don't value Gogic also - who brings valuable steely qualities to our midfield. Getting the balance of qualities right is going to be the trick.


I’m delighted Hallberg had a good game on Saturday but for me he’s been far from impressive this season. The previous week v St Johnstone he was passive when he came on, made no impact on the game.

badabing67
10-05-2021, 03:04 PM
I’m delighted Hallberg had a good game on Saturday but for me he’s been far from impressive this season. The previous week v St Johnstone he was passive when he came on, made no impact on the game.

No impact at least he had a go at goal, and probably the reason Jack Ross got booked when he wasn't awarded a pen at the end.

MrRobot
10-05-2021, 05:54 PM
I’m delighted Hallberg had a good game on Saturday but for me he’s been far from impressive this season. The previous week v St Johnstone he was passive when he came on, made no impact on the game.

He played about 20 minutes or less and should probably have had a penalty.

Hallberg has played well in most of the games he has had this season, which can’t be too easy when you don’t get a big run of games to get into that flow.

TheHibernator
12-05-2021, 07:56 PM
Hallberg off injured for magennis, struggled today.

Gogic been really good

flash
12-05-2021, 08:53 PM
You will wait a long time to see Hallberg perform at anywhere near the level that Gogic was at tonight.

h1bs4life
12-05-2021, 10:37 PM
Both should start in the final ahead of Newell , not a huge fan of Hallberg but he has offered more than Newell has recently.
Tonight there was no one slowing the game down , sitting 5 yards in front off the back 4 and then turning back the way

WeeRussell
12-05-2021, 10:55 PM
I don’t think it’s a question of Gogic or someone else. He’s an automatic starter along with a handful of other players for me.

Callum_62
12-05-2021, 11:15 PM
I'd be surprised if our midfield for the final (baring injury) isn't Gogic, Irvine and Newell

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Centre Hawf
12-05-2021, 11:23 PM
Gogic Irvine and Newell is the three. Newell hasn’t been as great as he was pre injury but his ability to look after the ball in tight areas and then open the pitch up is excellent.

Hibee87
12-05-2021, 11:58 PM
Gogic passing has come on leaps and bound since the turn of year. I'm sure I said on here at one point early in the season the players seemed to not fancy giving him the ball when in possession, even if he was the better player for the pass.
Since roughly end of jan he has been immense. And his possession game has increased 10 fold. Without a question he will start the final If fit.

J-C
13-05-2021, 04:17 AM
Hallberg did exactly what was asked by stifling the Aberdeen midfield, Ross knew a point was enough and the 3 kept it simple and tight, Gogic the best if the 3.

BILLYHIBS
13-05-2021, 05:04 AM
Hallberg for me is one good one bad too inconsistent

Seemed to go off with a knock to his right knee

Not convinced by him as a dead ball specialist either seems to give the ball back to the opposition more often than not

Gogic must be murder to play against all arms and legs fit as a butcher’s dug and his touch and ball retention have improved beyond all recognition

Jackson Irvine had his best game for HIBS last night was starting to show more composure and was getting about the Park with greater ease a goal would be nice and he was starting to get into the box more but needs to work on his finishing

Looks tailor made to get on the end of something in the Cup Final

Fingers crossed

JimBHibees
13-05-2021, 06:25 AM
Hallberg for me is one good one bad too inconsistent

Seemed to go off with a knock to his right knee

Not convinced by him as a dead ball specialist either seems to give the ball back to the opposition more often than not

Gogic must be murder to play against all arms and legs fit as a butcher’s dug and his touch and ball retention have improved beyond all recognition

Jackson Irvine had his best game for HIBS last night was starting to show more composure and was getting about the Park with greater ease a goal would be nice and he was starting to get into the box more but needs to work on his finishing

Looks tailor made to get on the end of something in the Cup Final

Fingers crossed

Agree Irvine was excellent last night gets about the pitch well and always looking to go forward. Hallberg going off with a knock may mean there isn't a choice to be made with either him or Newell for the final.

Onion
13-05-2021, 06:35 AM
Gogic has to start.

JimBHibees
13-05-2021, 06:38 AM
Gogic has to start.

Yep gives that physicality and defensive cover plus his ball retention has improved. Will be interesting to see if he starts Saturday as given he missed semi final we may want to play him again to get up to speed for the final.

MunsterHibee
13-05-2021, 07:42 AM
I'd personally start Gogic and Hallberg and have Newell as a substitute. Thought both played well together last night. Gogic purely because of his excellent work rate and the way he breaks up play and the ground he covers is unbelievable.

Brightside
13-05-2021, 07:49 AM
Hallberg took a knock so it may not be a discussion. For me it would be Gogic, not both.

WeeRussell
13-05-2021, 10:06 AM
Agree Irvine was excellent last night gets about the pitch well and always looking to go forward. Hallberg going off with a knock may mean there isn't a choice to be made with either him or Newell for the final.

His touch for Doidge’s (quality) goal was lovely too. Another important assist for Jackson.

147lothian
13-05-2021, 12:38 PM
Gogic needs wrapped in cotten wool for the final, I would rest him on Saturday, for me it's a no brainer Gogic starts next Saturday