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Northernhibee
06-05-2021, 01:50 PM
Signed on for two years. Happy with that.

nonshinyfinish
06-05-2021, 01:52 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/matt-macey-extends-stay-at-easter-road

Northernhibee
06-05-2021, 01:53 PM
Also think that he will be able to pass a lot of knowledge onto Dabrowski to help with his development having come from a club like Arsenal.

Since452
06-05-2021, 02:13 PM
Excellent

Brightside
06-05-2021, 02:22 PM
Brilliant signing.

scoopyboy
06-05-2021, 02:23 PM
Happy with that.

The more we get in quick the better.

Wilson
06-05-2021, 02:26 PM
Well done to all concerned. Good luck Matt.

Dalianwanda
06-05-2021, 02:39 PM
Delighted!

CMurdoch
06-05-2021, 02:44 PM
This closes the Marciano chapter at Hibs.
Had hoped he would have a late change of heart.

Macey No1 and Big Dab as his backup for next season.
Hope Macey is as big a success as Rocky has been.
Keeper is the most vital of positions.

J-C
06-05-2021, 02:53 PM
Nice to get that sorted, young Kevin is also out of contract so it'd be good to see him signed up for longer too.

Hibee Mac
06-05-2021, 02:54 PM
I've been slightly critical of him up to now but totally behind him now he's seen as our number 1. Hope he kicks on and settles into the side well.

Since452
06-05-2021, 02:55 PM
Give him all the remaining games.

CmoantheHibs
06-05-2021, 02:59 PM
I’ve liked what I have seen of him so far and although it’s not a large sample I think he will do well. More importantly JR has seen plenty of him and obviously thinks he will be a more than capable replacement for Rocky.

CmoantheHibs
06-05-2021, 03:00 PM
Nice to get that sorted, young Kevin is also out of contract so it'd be good to see him signed up for longer too.
Did he not just sign an extension?

oneone73
06-05-2021, 03:01 PM
Did he not just sign an extension?

Yes, he signed for two years.

Ronniekirk
06-05-2021, 03:02 PM
Nice to get that sorted, young Kevin is also out of contract so it'd be good to see him signed up for longer too.

He signed a new two year deal recently


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jeffers
06-05-2021, 03:05 PM
Not overly excited about this if I’m honest. I know a lot of people will say he had no chance with the two Motherwell goals, but he just doesn’t inspire confidence for me.

CmoantheHibs
06-05-2021, 03:06 PM
Yes, he signed for two years.
Cheers. I just checked up after I wrote it as I was sure I’d read it but my memory is not always honest with me:greengrin

J-C
06-05-2021, 03:07 PM
Did he not just sign an extension?


Yes, he signed for two years.


He signed a new two year deal recently


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Jeez you're all right, totally forgot about that, cheers. :thumbsup:

Andy74
06-05-2021, 03:10 PM
I’ve liked what I have seen of him so far and although it’s not a large sample I think he will do well. More importantly JR has seen plenty of him and obviously thinks he will be a more than capable replacement for Rocky.

Not sure that’s obvious at all. Ross had previously talked about getting Macey in longer term but wasn’t ruling out getting another keeper in. Perhaps he sees him as good back up and competition rather than outright replacing Rocky?

JimBHibees
06-05-2021, 03:13 PM
I get the impression he will be back up

CmoantheHibs
06-05-2021, 03:16 PM
Not sure that’s obvious at all. Ross had previously talked about getting Macey in longer term but wasn’t ruling out getting another keeper in. Perhaps he sees him as good back up and competition rather than outright replacing Rocky?
Perhaps but I think JR is an honest and forthright guy and Maceys role would have been discussed between them. Not sure he would have signed on if he wasn’t going to start as no 1 or felt Jack didn’t have a lot of faith in him.Time will tell though.

Andy74
06-05-2021, 03:22 PM
Perhaps but I think JR is an honest and forthright guy and Maceys role would have been discussed between them. Not sure he would have signed on if he wasn’t going to start as no 1 or felt Jack didn’t have a lot of faith in him.Time will tell though.

We’ve no idea what they’ve discussed and yes I’m sure Ross has been open with him about his future role.

The Baldmans Comb
06-05-2021, 03:25 PM
Its hard to say if this is a good or bad signing as it is with all inexperienced players but its a chance well worth taking as he is of the right age and has excellent phyisque and looks well coached.

2 years is a decent length of contract and hopefully it works out well for both parties as a transfer fee will be involved if he returns to England.

Having said that we have a better and more experienced big game keeper on the books and we should be playing our best players in the remaining games.

HoboHarry
06-05-2021, 03:28 PM
Completely missed the Rocky part - where is he heading off to?

Peevemor
06-05-2021, 03:29 PM
Completely missed the Rocky part - where is he heading off to?

We don't know, but it's been confirmed that he's refused a new contract so he's probably away.

HoboHarry
06-05-2021, 03:31 PM
We don't know, but it's been confirmed that he's refused a new contract so he's probably away.
Fair enough, wondered how I had missed that....:aok:

CMurdoch
07-05-2021, 01:20 PM
I get the impression he will be back up

I can't see why Kevin would have signed a new contract to be the number 3 keeper or Macey signing a 2 year deal to be the back up keeper
Both have already played those parts and are at the stage of needing to move forward with their careers.
Accordingly I see them as number 1 and back up for next season which is a little scary after Rocky.

bingo70
07-05-2021, 01:23 PM
I can't see why Kevin would have signed a new contract to be the number 3 keeper or Macey signing a 2 year deal to be the back up keeper
Both have already played those parts and are at the stage of needing to move forward with their careers.
Accordingly I see them as number 1 and back up for next season.

If Dabrowski never signed a 2 year deal where would he likely get a club about? I would guess probably championship level at best. By signing a 2 year deal with us he’ll probably get a loan to that level but on Hibs wages with the club keeping an eye on his progress.

Not signing that 2 year deal would have been a huge gamble with very little reward.

007
07-05-2021, 02:06 PM
I can't see why Kevin would have signed a new contract to be the number 3 keeper or Macey signing a 2 year deal to be the back up keeper
Both have already played those parts and are at the stage of needing to move forward with their careers.
Accordingly I see them as number 1 and back up for next season which is a little scary after Rocky.

I think we'll sign another keeper to compete with Macey for the no. 1 shirt.

Ronniekirk
07-05-2021, 05:05 PM
If Ross sees Macey as his no 1 next season he will play him in all the remaining games
If Rocky plays v Aberdeen it suggests to me another keeper will be brought in and third keeper sent out on loan again like he was at Dumbarton


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007
07-05-2021, 08:26 PM
If Ross sees Macey as his no 1 next season he will play him in all the remaining games
If Rocky plays v Aberdeen it suggests to me another keeper will be brought in and third keeper sent out on loan again like he was at Dumbarton

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I can see Macey's performance tomorrow determining whether he or Rocky starts v Aberdeen.

SJNB Hibby
07-05-2021, 08:40 PM
I can see Macey's performance tomorrow determining whether he or Rocky starts v Aberdeen.

Surely tomorrows game is more important that the Dons game, which we can lose but still have a better chance of finishing 3rd?

Silky
07-05-2021, 08:51 PM
I can see Macey's performance tomorrow determining whether he or Rocky starts v Aberdeen.

What if he has nothing to do?

007
07-05-2021, 09:00 PM
What if he has nothing to do?

As far as we know, at the moment, Macey is getting the cup games. If he has a good game tomorrow then he's got a decent case for starting v Aberdeen, particularly now that he has signed a contract. If he has an average or worse game then the chances are it will be Rocky v Aberdeen. I would class having nothing to as being an average game.

Allez Hibs
07-05-2021, 10:44 PM
More than comfortable with Macey in goal tomorrow. He has a massive presence in goal given his size.

Gordon Strachan was saying the size of him alone might have been a massive advantage for Hibs in the penalty shootout v Motherwell.

Hibee Mac
08-05-2021, 12:07 AM
More than comfortable with Macey in goal tomorrow. He has a massive presence in goal given his size.

Gordon Strachan was saying the size of him alone might have been a massive advantage for Hibs in the penalty shootout v Motherwell.Then stick him on if it goes to penalties. We should be playing our number 1 keeper in these important games.

Looks like Macey will be #1 next year and I'll be behind him if he is but right now Marciano is a better keeper and our best chance of winning important games is to play our best players.

Lancs Harp
08-05-2021, 12:11 AM
With issues at the back, lack of bite in midfield (especially without Gogic) lack of creativity in Midfield and not scoring as many goals as we should, who is in goal tomorrow is the least of my problems. They are both decent and and can do a job. Dont care which is in goal I wont lose any sleep over whichever.

AFKA5814_Hibs
08-05-2021, 12:43 AM
My preference is that we shouldn't at this stage be chopping and changing between goalies. If Macey is Jacks preference as he'll be here next season, play him for the remainder of the season. If he feels Marciano is the better goalie, play him. Don't like it when we are swapping them, week after week. Don't think it helps our defenders.

nlandsafchibee
08-05-2021, 05:00 PM
A vital reflex save low down to left just after we went 2 up . A turning point stopped .Some may see it as a big call by JR ,particularly as it is so important to win but he sees him all time in training and has confidence to give him a 2 year contract .

Pretty Boy
08-05-2021, 05:01 PM
Excellent today. One big save and was dominant.

Allez Hibs
08-05-2021, 05:02 PM
Team selection spot on.

Vault Boy
08-05-2021, 05:04 PM
Earns his final spot.

Glory Lurker
08-05-2021, 05:05 PM
Solid.

USAHibee
08-05-2021, 05:07 PM
Solid.

Fantastic. So proud of this team!!

Northernhibee
08-05-2021, 05:07 PM
Ofir should have now played his last game for us, two or three times he commanded his box, a couple of excellent saves. Keeps the gloves for me.

Dalianwanda
08-05-2021, 05:09 PM
It always seems to be 'a feeling' that people have against him...Nothing concrete, nothing tangible...He played really well today, delighted for him (and for Hibs)

MagicSwirlingShip
08-05-2021, 05:09 PM
More than vindicated his selection today. Impressive performance

Cheshire Hibby
08-05-2021, 05:10 PM
I like the look of Macey and it’s great that he wanted to stay.

Hibee Mac
08-05-2021, 05:12 PM
Good game today, seems to command the box a bit more than Marciano which is nice.

Should be less commentary on his spot in the final after today, I also think Marciano may have already played his last game for Hibs now.

The Modfather
08-05-2021, 05:12 PM
Looks like a ready made replacement for Marciano. Like the look of him.

007
08-05-2021, 05:13 PM
Ofir should have now played his last game for us, two or three times he commanded his box, a couple of excellent saves. Keeps the gloves for me.

I think so too. Macey is going to be the keeper for the final so needs to play v Aberdeen and Celtic to make sure he's as sharp as possible for the 22nd.

Andy74
08-05-2021, 05:13 PM
It always seems to be 'a feeling' that people have against him...Nothing concrete, nothing tangible...He played really well today, delighted for him (and for Hibs)

Thought he did well but the unease is with crosses.

Probably shouldn’t have come for the one that he got a bit stranded for. Was a bit similar to the position he ended up v Motherwell. Also mishandled one but recovered well.

Clean sheet and job done though and a cracking save at an important time too.

Will at the very least be good back up. 😁

Bangkok Hibby
08-05-2021, 05:15 PM
Thought he did well but the unease is with crosses.

Probably shouldn’t have come for the one that he got a bit stranded for. Was a bit similar to the position he ended up v Motherwell. Also mishandled one but recovered well.

Clean sheet and job done though and a cracking save at an important time too.

Will at the very least be good back up. 😁

you'll grow to love him Andy 🙂🙂🙂

Since452
08-05-2021, 05:16 PM
Another keeper who hasn't been in the door very long possibly becoming a legend

Andy74
08-05-2021, 05:17 PM
you'll grow to love him Andy 🙂🙂🙂

I love all Hibs players. 😁

Tug Wilson
08-05-2021, 05:25 PM
Macey is replacing a bit of a legend in Marciano. Some fans will take a while to accept that Rocky is no longer a Hibs player and will naturally see Matt as a downgrade.

However, he has done nothing to deserve the negative narrative that seems to be pushed by some fans. Indeed he has actually done a lot of good stuff.

If he is our first choice next season then I am happy with that.

Shrekko
08-05-2021, 05:27 PM
Thought he did well but the unease is with crosses.

Probably shouldn’t have come for the one that he got a bit stranded for. Was a bit similar to the position he ended up v Motherwell. Also mishandled one but recovered well.

Clean sheet and job done though and a cracking save at an important time too.

Will at the very least be good back up. 😁

If his unease is with crosses he’s got something in common with your ‘number 1 choice’😉 Id say he was pretty commanding generally though. The cross you’re talking about was a great one and he can be excused for being caught in 2 minds.

He did very well ... once again.

Peevemor
08-05-2021, 05:35 PM
Macey is replacing a bit of a legend in Marciano. Some fans will take a while to accept that Rocky is no longer a Hibs player and will naturally see Matt as a downgrade.

However, he has done nothing to deserve the negative narrative that seems to be pushed by some fans. Indeed he has actually done a lot of good stuff.

If he is our first choice next season then I am happy with that.Well said. I got the impression on today's match thread that, while obviously wanting a Hibs win, some would have been happy had Macey screwed something up just to prove them right.

I wonder if Ross might be tempted to play Macey instead of Rocky in the remaining league matches.

Brightside
08-05-2021, 05:35 PM
Thought he did well but the unease is with crosses.

Probably shouldn’t have come for the one that he got a bit stranded for. Was a bit similar to the position he ended up v Motherwell. Also mishandled one but recovered well.

Clean sheet and job done though and a cracking save at an important time too.

Will at the very least be good back up. 😁

You are going in with an issue here Andy. He's done very little to be a negative about and plenty to be positive about. 2 good saves today that he made look easy. Embrace him.

Ronniekirk
08-05-2021, 05:36 PM
He has helped get us to Final signed a new deal Just play him in next three games


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Andy74
08-05-2021, 05:37 PM
Well said. I got the impression on today's match thread that, while obviously wanting a Hibs win, some would have been happy had Macey screwed something up just to prove them right.

I wonder if Ross might be tempted to play Macey instead of Rocky in the remaining league matches.

I’d suggest that is nonsense and nobody would have wanted that.

Could say the same the other extreme that a few want to give him man of the match for what was a pretty standard performance.

blackpoolhibs
08-05-2021, 05:38 PM
Did very well. :top marks

Peevemor
08-05-2021, 05:44 PM
I’d suggest that is nonsense and nobody would have wanted that.

Could say the same the other extreme that a few want to give him man of the match for what was a pretty standard performance.I suggest that you re read the thread in that case - there was definitely that undertone.

I can't remember anyone calling him MoM though... [emoji848]

Callum_62
08-05-2021, 05:45 PM
I suggest that you re read the thread in that case - there was definitely that undertone.

I can't remember anyone calling him MoM though... [emoji848]Someone did call him MoTM

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marinello59
08-05-2021, 05:46 PM
Did very well. :top marks

Yeap. We have another good keeper on our team.

Andy74
08-05-2021, 05:46 PM
I hope he becomes a legend in the next couple of weeks. 👍

Bristolhibby
08-05-2021, 05:47 PM
Remember people saying he couldn’t get down to stop shots.

Not today.

J

Peevemor
08-05-2021, 05:47 PM
I hope he becomes a legend in the next couple of weeks. [emoji106]Fingers crossed.

Bristolhibby
08-05-2021, 05:48 PM
I hope he becomes a legend in the next couple of weeks. 👍

#timeforheroes

hibbysam
08-05-2021, 05:48 PM
Thought he did well but the unease is with crosses.

Probably shouldn’t have come for the one that he got a bit stranded for. Was a bit similar to the position he ended up v Motherwell. Also mishandled one but recovered well.

Clean sheet and job done though and a cracking save at an important time too.

Will at the very least be good back up. 😁

He was very good tonight. Very lucky with the two crosses but at least he made his mind up early, it’s the reason many keepers are reluctant to come for things though and why I’ve no issue with Marciano staying no his line, so easy for those fractions to go against you, first one boy flicks it on it’s a goal, second one boys waiting for a tap in when it drops.

Couple of very good saves though.

Coach Jon
08-05-2021, 05:48 PM
He has helped get us to Final signed a new deal Just play him in next three games


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Agree with this, clean sheet today at Hampden, deserves to keep his place.

Peevemor
08-05-2021, 05:48 PM
Someone did call him MoTM

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blackpoolhibs
08-05-2021, 05:49 PM
Yeap. We have another good keeper on our team.

I think he's decent from what iv'e seen so far, Rocky is better in my opinion, and i'd have played him. You wouldn't play Drey Wright instead of Martin Boyle.

If we win the cup, i wouldn't care if we had Macar in goals. :greengrin

Allez Hibs
08-05-2021, 05:50 PM
Macey is replacing a bit of a legend in Marciano. Some fans will take a while to accept that Rocky is no longer a Hibs player and will naturally see Matt as a downgrade.

However, he has done nothing to deserve the negative narrative that seems to be pushed by some fans. Indeed he has actually done a lot of good stuff.

If he is our first choice next season then I am happy with that.

Happy with Macey to be the #1 now. Good call from Jack Ross. Not so sure Marciano is a legend, been a good servant though.

hibsbollah
08-05-2021, 05:51 PM
The lack of fans might help him slot into the team free from nervousness and might allow him to more easily get over the mistake or two that WILL inevitably come.

Dalianwanda
08-05-2021, 05:52 PM
I think he's decent from what iv'e seen so far, Rocky is better in my opinion, and i'd have played him. You wouldn't play Drey Wright instead of Martin Boyle.

If we win the cup, i wouldn't care if we had Macar in goals. :greengrin

But (and we dont know as no ones actually confirmed it)...If you sign a goalie & say your going to play him in all the cup games (then sign him up) you dont drop him for the semi/final........I doubt Drey was given the same promise

CMurdoch
08-05-2021, 05:52 PM
No issues. No drama.
Did all that needed to be done.

Played at Hampden for the 1st time.
Will be playing in the final.
Pleased for the guy.

Marciano in for his final Hibs appearane against Aberdeen?

Baldy Foghorn
08-05-2021, 05:53 PM
Important stop from Shankland at 2-0, especially after having little to do prior to that moment

bigwheel
08-05-2021, 05:54 PM
Important stop from Shankland at 2-0, especially after having little to do prior to that moment

Vital save that ....

blackpoolhibs
08-05-2021, 05:56 PM
But (and we dont know as no ones actually confirmed it)...If you sign a goalie & say your going to play him in all the cup games (then sign him up) you dont drop him for the semi/final........I doubt Drey was given the same promise

I know that, but for me with everything thats at stake, i just would have had rocky between the sticks. I find it strange any manager would promise the 2nd choice keeper every game in the cups, especially when we dont win them often, and they are the only things we have a remote chance of winning.

And then you have Europe till xmas thrown in, it's a big gamble.

Peevemor
08-05-2021, 05:58 PM
I know that, but for me with everything thats at stake, i just would have had rocky between the sticks. I find it strange any manager would promise the 2nd choice keeper every game in the cups, especially when we dont win them often, and they are the only things we have a remote chance of winning.

And then you have Europe till xmas thrown in, it's a big gamble.I've mentioned before, and I don't know if it's true, but Cliff & Tam suggested a few weeks ago that JR might have promised Macey the cup games to get him to sign.

blackpoolhibs
08-05-2021, 06:03 PM
I've mentioned before, and I don't know if it's true, but Cliff & Tam suggested a few weeks ago that JR might have promised Macey the cup games to get him to sign.

We probably wont ever know. :greengrin

Jim44
08-05-2021, 06:05 PM
The save down to his left was a potential game saver. Ok he’s presently no. 2 to Marciano but I would say a big thanks to Marciano and play Macey for the remaining games.

Callum_62
08-05-2021, 06:06 PM
I think he's decent from what iv'e seen so far, Rocky is better in my opinion, and i'd have played him. You wouldn't play Drey Wright instead of Martin Boyle.

If we win the cup, i wouldn't care if we had Macar in goals. :greengrinOh, naughty [emoji23]

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Callum_62
08-05-2021, 06:06 PM
That's just daft. He hardly had anything to do, but was fine when he did.Yep - he was solid

One save from Shankland that really he should be making and he dealt with a few cross balls ok

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NorthNorfolkHFC
08-05-2021, 06:07 PM
Important stop from Shankland at 2-0, especially after having little to do prior to that moment

Game changer and made more impressive by the fact he’s such a big guy. Gets down very quickly. Positive signs.


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MrRobot
08-05-2021, 06:22 PM
Needs to keep his place for me. Love Rocky and he’s been a great servant for us, but we need to forward and it seems Macey will be our number 1 so deserves the rest of the season.

one day maybe...
08-05-2021, 06:29 PM
Marciano for the final two league games & let big Macey go into the final full of confidence..

Danderhall Hibs
08-05-2021, 06:46 PM
Important stop from Shankland at 2-0, especially after having little to do prior to that moment

Important stop and also came for plenty crosses. He wants to be here and Marciano doesn’t so I’d stick with him.

Since452
08-05-2021, 06:47 PM
Think it would be daft to put Marciano back in on Wednesday now

GreenNWhiteArmy
08-05-2021, 07:56 PM
Commands his area well. A few times you could hear his "KEEEEEEEPER" shout. Albeit once doig ignored him

Tough call for JR now whether to bring his number one back in or stick with future number one?

Northernhibee
08-05-2021, 08:00 PM
I think he's possibly got one or two howlers a season in him as he comes out for crosses into the box, but think that he also stopped a few of their attacks by doing so.

I like him.

Allez Hibs
08-05-2021, 08:01 PM
I know that, but for me with everything thats at stake, i just would have had rocky between the sticks. I find it strange any manager would promise the 2nd choice keeper every game in the cups, especially when we dont win them often, and they are the only things we have a remote chance of winning.

And then you have Europe till xmas thrown in, it's a big gamble.

Don't English teams do that pretty frequently in the Cups?

Billy Whizz
08-05-2021, 08:04 PM
If Macey is our goalie for next season, he should play every game
I’ve loved Marciano’s contribution at Hibs, but he’s moving on

GRA
08-05-2021, 08:04 PM
Important stop from Shankland at 2-0, especially after having little to do prior to that moment

He had one shaky moment when he hesitated coming for a cross but other than that no concerns.

Been really consistent since he came in and made crucial saves at crucial times in previous games against Motherwell and Queen of the South as well.

Glad he's staying on 👍

wookie70
08-05-2021, 08:04 PM
Has Rocky ever won at Hampden. He must have played there 5 or 6 times between Hibs and Israel. Macey is one for one and must start in the Cup Final. Well done to Jack Ross too. If he made the promise he kept it and that is a big deal in management.

superfurryhibby
08-05-2021, 08:07 PM
Macey should play in the next three games. Sorry Rocky, but you're leaving us. The big fellae has earned his contract and is now a Hibee.

I like fairytale Hibernian goalkeeper stories, looks like we have another one in the making.

Since452
08-05-2021, 08:08 PM
Has Rocky ever won at Hampden. He must have played there 5 or 6 times between Hibs and Israel. Macey is one for one and must start in the Cup Final. Well done to Jack Ross too. If he made the promise he kept it and that is a big deal in management.

No. Never had a good game at Hampden for club or country. I agree. The players will respect Ross for that.

Thank Marciano for his contribution but the future is Macey. He keeps the gloves.

B.H.F.C
08-05-2021, 08:10 PM
Macey must play now. Can’t chop and change.

One in the second half, when they should have scored, was similar to the last round. Started to come, went back, wouldn’t have been able to save if it was on target as a result. That looks like the weakness.

Feel a bit sorry for Rocky. Five good years and out the team when it gets to this point.

B.H.F.C
08-05-2021, 08:12 PM
No. Never had a good game at Hampden for club or country. I agree. The players will respect Ross for that.

Thank Marciano for his contribution but the future is Macey. He keeps the gloves.

Pish. He made one mistake against Aberdeen and that’s it.

GreenNWhiteArmy
08-05-2021, 08:20 PM
Pish. He made one mistake against Aberdeen and that’s it.

Also played fairly well for Israel in all the games we've had v them

supermcginn
08-05-2021, 08:24 PM
If Macey is our goalie for next season, he should play every game
I’ve loved Marciano’s contribution at Hibs, but he’s moving on

100 percent. He's a good goalie and has committed himself to the club. To play a guy who wants away in front of him would be a terrible decision. Macey is the present and future for us.

wookie70
08-05-2021, 08:25 PM
Pish. He made one mistake against Aberdeen and that’s it.

But has he had a good game, Polar Bear type performance. He hasn't done much wrong but has he had that much to do or made many good saves. I do think going there after 5 or 6 games and never having won may not be great psychologically for any player. Rocky has had a funny season this year. I can't remember him really being a standout in any game but then he really hasn't done much wrong(distribution aside and that has improved). He has had an Oxley type season for me where many of the shots on target have went in albeit not obviously his fault. The last few seasons he regularly made excellent stops and also the occasional howler.

hibeejeebies
08-05-2021, 08:46 PM
The new Conrad Logan 😎

sleeping giant
08-05-2021, 08:50 PM
Macey must play now. Can’t chop and change.

One in the second half, when they should have scored, was similar to the last round. Started to come, went back, wouldn’t have been able to save if it was on target as a result. That looks like the weakness.

Feel a bit sorry for Rocky. Five good years and out the team when it gets to this point.

Absolutely. The gloves are his.

Unseen work
08-05-2021, 08:54 PM
I like him.

Couple of really good saves down low.

He takes a bit of risk with crosses/high balls in the box which is brilliant but also could result in a mistake. There was one today looked a spitting image of the Motherwell goal as he came off his line, changed his mind and almost looked in no mans land. Thankfully it just went past the post.

The good thing is that he’s young for a keeper, hasn’t played many games this season and will learn from it. He will get more confident and realise what he should and shouldn’t come for.

Since452
08-05-2021, 08:58 PM
Pish. He made one mistake against Aberdeen and that’s it.

Didn't say mistake

WhileTheChief..
08-05-2021, 09:00 PM
Macey must play now. Can’t chop and change.

Feel a bit sorry for Rocky. Five good years and out the team when it gets to this point.

I tend to agree, but at the same time why rock the boat? It’s been working using both of them.

Either way, nice problem to have.

B.H.F.C
08-05-2021, 09:02 PM
But has he had a good game, Polar Bear type performance. He hasn't done much wrong but has he had that much to do or made many good saves. I do think going there after 5 or 6 games and never having won may not be great psychologically for any player. Rocky has had a funny season this year. I can't remember him really being a standout in any game but then he really hasn't done much wrong(distribution aside and that has improved). He has had an Oxley type season for me where many of the shots on target have went in albeit not obviously his fault. The last few seasons he regularly made excellent stops and also the occasional howler.

He’s been a good goalie for Hibs for 5 years.

The polar bear had one very good, freakish game. Bloody legend but otherwise average.

Rocky has been a mainstay of our best defence in a long time. Well never get a mistake free goalie.

B.H.F.C
08-05-2021, 09:02 PM
Didn't say mistake

What are you saying then?

AFKA5814_Hibs
08-05-2021, 09:06 PM
Macey has to play last 3 games imo. He's our no. 1 imo.

wookie70
08-05-2021, 09:17 PM
He’s been a good goalie for Hibs for 5 years.

The polar bear had one very good, freakish game. Bloody legend but otherwise average.

Rocky has been a mainstay of our best defence in a long time. Well never get a mistake free goalie.


Not denying he has been a good keeper and a player that has contributed a lot in his time. I am talking about his record at Hampden. The Cup is different imo. There are always odd things happen like contact lenses giving chunky glove wearers hero status. It is full of superstition and it needs players who will do well between the ears and who are confident. Rocky hasn't won a game there and while he hasn't been terrible he doesn't have any great performances either. Macey has played once, won the game and kept a clean sheet. He has to play in the final for superstition reasons if nothing else. Doidge to score the winner for similar reasons as he has scored in every round.

HibbyKeith
08-05-2021, 09:18 PM
I tend to agree, but at the same time why rock the boat? It’s been working using both of them.

Either way, nice problem to have.

I'm not sure there is much to rock to be honest there is only 2 games left to play in the league. Macy will play in the Final, hes our new #1 and has committed himself to the club. I'd be giving him the league games now to get some more match sharpness.

There is no time for sentiment, thanks Rocky for your time here but hes moving on and so are we.

Dmas
08-05-2021, 09:20 PM
No. Never had a good game at Hampden for club or country. I agree. The players will respect Ross for that.

Thank Marciano for his contribution but the future is Macey. He keeps the gloves.

Macey is currently the 2nd best keeper at the club that’s why he’s only been getting cup games, we should be playing our strongest available team in every game

Danderhall Hibs
08-05-2021, 09:24 PM
Macey is currently the 2nd best keeper at the club

I think that’s debatable now.

wookie70
08-05-2021, 09:24 PM
Macey is currently the 2nd best keeper at the club that’s why he’s only been getting cup games, we should be playing our strongest available team in every game

He also hasn't lost a game. You could give him the league games but that does come with a risk if he throughs one in. Rocky has been a good servant and Ross looks like he has made an agreement. The best way may be for Rocky to continue being part of our successful league campaign and Macey to continue being part of the successful cup run. It has worked so far

Dmas
08-05-2021, 09:32 PM
I think that’s debatable now.

Is it? numerous posters have stated his uncertainty at coming for a ball out his box and being in no mans land similar to the Motherwell game, he dropped a cross and that whole kick out for Newell being injured was ridiculous why didn’t he just bang it out? He’s made a couple of good saves today definitely, but nothing that Rocky wouldn’t have made and certainly nothing to elevate him to ‘polar bear’ status

I’m uncertain about the guy he’s done nothing to show he’s ready to be a no.1 and to be fair to him he’s done nothing too much wrong but you have to take into consideration the opposition macey has faced prior to today, Rocky is a full International goalkeeper and been as solid as any keeper we’ve had in my time supporting hibs

Andy74
08-05-2021, 09:33 PM
I think that’s debatable now.

Anything can be debated but we are a long, long way from being able to say that Macey is better than Marciano.

Borderhibbie76
08-05-2021, 11:10 PM
Is it? numerous posters have stated his uncertainty at coming for a ball out his box and being in no mans land similar to the Motherwell game, he dropped a cross and that whole kick out for Newell being injured was ridiculous why didn’t he just bang it out? He’s made a couple of good saves today definitely, but nothing that Rocky wouldn’t have made and certainly nothing to elevate him to ‘polar bear’ status

I’m uncertain about the guy he’s done nothing to show he’s ready to be a no.1 and to be fair to him he’s done nothing too much wrong but you have to take into consideration the opposition macey has faced prior to today, Rocky is a full International goalkeeper and been as solid as any keeper we’ve had in my time supporting hibs

Dunno your age mate I am old enough to have seen the likes of Goram and Leighton at Hibs...Rocky has been a really good keeper for us but he's not in their class

ian cruise
08-05-2021, 11:14 PM
He had one shaky moment when he hesitated coming for a cross but other than that no concerns.

Been really consistent since he came in and made crucial saves at crucial times in previous games against Motherwell and Queen of the South as well.

Glad he's staying on 👍

If we're thinking about the same moment with the Utd player Robertson having a great opportunity I liked the fact Macey realised if he committed going after the ball he was leaving an open goal. He quickly corrected and got back and while it looked awkward, it was possibly enough to put Robertson off.

I'm very happy with Macey and like yourself, glad he's staying on.

MWHIBBIES
09-05-2021, 01:49 AM
But has he had a good game, Polar Bear type performance. He hasn't done much wrong but has he had that much to do or made many good saves. I do think going there after 5 or 6 games and never having won may not be great psychologically for any player. Rocky has had a funny season this year. I can't remember him really being a standout in any game but then he really hasn't done much wrong(distribution aside and that has improved). He has had an Oxley type season for me where many of the shots on target have went in albeit not obviously his fault. The last few seasons he regularly made excellent stops and also the occasional howler.
2-2 draw with rangers he was brilliant

J-C
09-05-2021, 05:18 AM
Looked very assured and very vocal, came for crosses easily enough, a pretty decent keeper who will get better with more game time.

Dmas
09-05-2021, 06:33 AM
Dunno your age mate I am old enough to have seen the likes of Goram and Leighton at Hibs...Rocky has been a really good keeper for us but he's not in their class


Too young when Goram was at Hibs but Leighton best in my time, I'd give you that Jim was better...Since Jim Leighton has there been better than rocky? theres certainly a fair few to choose from.

Danderhall Hibs
09-05-2021, 07:34 AM
If we're thinking about the same moment with the Utd player Robertson having a great opportunity I liked the fact Macey realised if he committed going after the ball he was leaving an open goal. He quickly corrected and got back and while it looked awkward, it was possibly enough to put Robertson off.

I'm very happy with Macey and like yourself, glad he's staying on.

I don’t think anyone would be wanting the goalie to come that far out to take the ball would they? Alternatively they wouldn’t want the goalie to stay on his line and give the guy a free shot. As it is he narrowed the angle and if the guy had put it on target he had it covered - he even dived this time to show everyone.

Borderhibbie76
09-05-2021, 07:39 AM
Too young when Goram was at Hibs but Leighton best in my time, I'd give you that Jim was better...Since Jim Leighton has there been better than rocky? theres certainly a fair few to choose from.

No absolutely not mate Ben Williams was decent in a dreadful Hibs team but Rocky is deffo the best we've had since those 2

The Baldmans Comb
09-05-2021, 07:43 AM
The manager was proved right and those of us who questioned his decision were just wrong. Well done Jack Ross and congratulations to Matt Macey for such an assured performance.

I would give Rocky the Aberdeen game but Macey the Celtic game and obviously he will now be the keeper for the final.

ian cruise
09-05-2021, 07:46 AM
I don’t think anyone would be wanting the goalie to come that far out to take the ball would they? Alternatively they wouldn’t want the goalie to stay on his line and give the guy a free shot. As it is he narrowed the angle and if the guy had put it on target he had it covered - he even dived this time to show everyone.

Yeah, I absolutely agree. I thought he did a good job getting back and covering when he realised where Robertson was. As you said, if he stayed on his line the Utd player has a free shot.

Big_Franck
09-05-2021, 07:59 AM
I thought Macey did Ok yesterday but nothing more than that. He only really had one save to make from Shankland and he dealt with that well. However, there were a couple of heart in the mouth moments when he came charging off his line for crosses and **** knows what he was doing when Newell went down injured but McNulty played on. He didn't deal with that situation at all well.

Marciano is the better keeper for me but it now looks like Ross is going to stick with the number 2 for the biggest Scottish Cup final in years. It's a big decision to make and he must get it right.

ian cruise
09-05-2021, 08:02 AM
I thought Macey did Ok yesterday but nothing more than that. He only really had one save to make from Shankland and he dealt with that well. However, there were a couple of heart in the mouth moments when he came charging off his line for crosses and **** knows what he was doing when Newell went down injured but McNulty played on. He didn't deal with that situation at all well.

Marciano is the better keeper for me but it now looks like Ross is going to stick with the number 2 for the biggest Scottish Cup final in years. It's a big decision to make and he must get it right.

Excellent. Not even 24 hours and we're back to ultimatums and references to Macey being number 2 keeper.

What happens if Ross makes the decision to go with Macey in the final, is that the wrong decision (since you've claimed he's the number two keeper at the club), do we need to expect Ross out threads?

hibsbollah
09-05-2021, 08:05 AM
I thought Macey did Ok yesterday but nothing more than that. He only really had one save to make from Shankland and he dealt with that well. However, there were a couple of heart in the mouth moments when he came charging off his line for crosses and **** knows what he was doing when Newell went down injured but McNulty played on. He didn't deal with that situation at all well.

Marciano is the better keeper for me but it now looks like Ross is going to stick with the number 2 for the biggest Scottish Cup final in years. It's a big decision to make and he must get it right.

It wasn’t a heart in the mouth moment. Coming off his line briefly, readjusting when he saw the trajectory and getting reset in his 6 yard box ensured his angles were perfect and he was on his front foot. It was literally perfect movement.

green day
09-05-2021, 08:09 AM
Macey did well yesterday - the one where he came out and the full back had the shot, Boyle was posted missing so we lacked cover - not a lot Macey could do.

Good save from Shankland as well.



Its not like we are choosing between Malkowski and Buffon here - both Macey and Rocky are decent keepers who............if they were really good would be playing down south.

But for the final?
Do we choose the guy already talking about the "offers he has in Scotland from other clubs" or the guy who just signed a new contract with us?

Not even a contest imo.

Peevemor
09-05-2021, 08:10 AM
It wasn’t a heart in the mouth moment. Coming off his line briefly, getting reset in his 6 yard box ensured his angles were perfect and he was on his front foot. It was literally perfect movement.

There's been a fait bit of unfair criticism for that on here. Surely he's allowed to judge the flight of the ball before deciding whether to commit himself? I'd rather he use his height and come for crosses than not "hesitate" and simply stay on his line.

The Modfather
09-05-2021, 08:33 AM
I didn’t get the fuss pre match from the “Macy Out” brigade :devil:. Macey has a long way to go to match Rocky’s consistency over a long period. However looks a safe pair of hands and an ample replacement. There’s probably not much in it, if anything, between both keepers. It’s still early days but the initial signs are promising.

lucky
09-05-2021, 08:57 AM
I thought Macey did Ok yesterday but nothing more than that. He only really had one save to make from Shankland and he dealt with that well. However, there were a couple of heart in the mouth moments when he came charging off his line for crosses and **** knows what he was doing when Newell went down injured but McNulty played on. He didn't deal with that situation at all well.

Marciano is the better keeper for me but it now looks like Ross is going to stick with the number 2 for the biggest Scottish Cup final in years. It's a big decision to make and he must get it right.

Rocky is a decent shot stopper but he’s not as good as your making out. There’s very little between the two of them but the fact Macey has been our cup keeper then he should play, also the fact he’s committed to Hibs where Rocky isn’t swings it further in Macey’s favour. I wouldn’t play Rocky again this season.

Crunchie
09-05-2021, 10:14 AM
Looked very assured and very vocal, came for crosses easily enough, a pretty decent keeper who will get better with more game time.
That's what I like about him, a keeper should always be coming for crosses in the box especially in today's game where the slightest touch on a keeper is a foul. Keep him in for the remainder I say.

jacomo
10-05-2021, 07:50 AM
Rocky is a decent shot stopper but he’s not as good as your making out. There’s very little between the two of them but the fact Macey has been our cup keeper then he should play, also the fact he’s committed to Hibs where Rocky isn’t swings it further in Macey’s favour. I wouldn’t play Rocky again this season.


We’ll miss Rocky when he’s gone. He’s been a very decent keeper for us.

Macey will play in the cup final. I’d have him studying videos of St Johnstone every spare moment and Rocky can help wrap up 3rd place for us.

Onion
10-05-2021, 10:24 AM
We’ll miss Rocky when he’s gone. He’s been a very decent keeper for us.

Macey will play in the cup final. I’d have him studying videos of St Johnstone every spare moment and Rocky can help wrap up 3rd place for us.

And our best goalie in years will have missed out on 2 x Scottish Cup Finals. That must hurt.

Since452
10-05-2021, 10:42 AM
Anyone notice when the full time whistle went Marciano didn't even break into a smile? His heart isn't in it anymore. Macey's gloves.

superfurryhibby
10-05-2021, 11:15 AM
And our best goalie in years will have missed out on 2 x Scottish Cup Finals. That must hurt.

What was the other final he missed out on? I can't think of one, but I think he's played in around 5 losing semi finals though.

It will hurt, but that's football. He's leaving with our thanks and can console himself with the big fat cheque he gets when he signs up elsewhere.

Shrekko
10-05-2021, 11:37 AM
Looks as if Matt Macey is going to face unprecedented levels of scrutiny from a section of our fans on the basis that he is not Ofir Marciano. Absolute madness some of the stuff that's been said on here this week. There has been absolutely zero evidence to suggest he's in any way inferior to Marciano- people are looking for stuff.

Andy74
10-05-2021, 11:57 AM
Looks as if Matt Macey is going to face unprecedented levels of scrutiny from a section of our fans on the basis that he is not Ofir Marciano. Absolute madness some of the stuff that's been said on here this week. There has been absolutely zero evidence to suggest he's in any way inferior to Marciano- people are looking for stuff.

I don’t think you’ve actually been paying attention.

Callum_62
10-05-2021, 11:58 AM
Looks as if Matt Macey is going to face unprecedented levels of scrutiny from a section of our fans on the basis that he is not Ofir Marciano. Absolute madness some of the stuff that's been said on here this week. There has been absolutely zero evidence to suggest he's in any way inferior to Marciano- people are looking for stuff.That's not really true though

One has played for us for years and been one of our most consistent performers

He's also got quite a few caps at international level

The other is 26 and played about 50 games

That's not to say Macey cant be as effective but I understand people who see Ofir is the better choice

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Shrekko
10-05-2021, 12:03 PM
I don’t think you’ve actually been paying attention.

That's not exactly a compelling argument by your standards.

BoomtownHibees
10-05-2021, 12:09 PM
Looks as if Matt Macey is going to face unprecedented levels of scrutiny from a section of our fans on the basis that he is not Ofir Marciano. Absolute madness some of the stuff that's been said on here this week. There has been absolutely zero evidence to suggest he's in any way inferior to Marciano- people are looking for stuff.

There’s also zero evidence to say he is anywhere close to the quality of Marciano. Only time will tell

Danderhall Hibs
10-05-2021, 12:10 PM
Looks as if Matt Macey is going to face unprecedented levels of scrutiny from a section of our fans on the basis that he is not Ofir Marciano. Absolute madness some of the stuff that's been said on here this week. There has been absolutely zero evidence to suggest he's in any way inferior to Marciano- people are looking for stuff.

It definitely feels that way. I think it’s caused by us all being damaged by the goalies in the 2000s.

Northernhibee
10-05-2021, 12:11 PM
There’s also zero evidence to say he is anywhere close to the quality of Marciano. Only time will tell

Jack Ross sees him every day and can judge who should start, so if someone more qualified to judge his ability backs him then so should we.

BoomtownHibees
10-05-2021, 12:14 PM
Jack Ross sees him every day and can judge who should start, so if someone more qualified to judge his ability backs him then so should we.

Strange that he’s not been picking him in the league games then don’t you think?

I wouldn’t have any issues with him playing in the final. He’s been, in the main, fine. But if he is going to then he should be in for the last couple of league games as well. No point in chopping and changing now. Give him and the defence a bit more time playing together

Danderhall Hibs
10-05-2021, 12:33 PM
Strange that he’s not been picking him in the league games then don’t you think?

I wouldn’t have any issues with him playing in the final. He’s been, in the main, fine. But if he is going to then he should be in for the last couple of league games as well. No point in chopping and changing now. Give him and the defence a bit more time playing together

Agreed. Additionally he’s shown he wants to be here.

Shrekko
10-05-2021, 12:34 PM
There’s also zero evidence to say he is anywhere close to the quality of Marciano. Only time will tell

I agree to an extent but its not 'zero' evidence- so far it's so good, and that's the point I'm making.

Time will tell- it'll be a couple of years before we all know. He should get the chance without people using pre-conceptions to judge.

In the meantime Jack Ross and the coaching team see him every day and they're confident we're not weakening the team by playing Macey- and that's good enough for me.

J-C
10-05-2021, 12:38 PM
Strange that he’s not been picking him in the league games then don’t you think?

I wouldn’t have any issues with him playing in the final. He’s been, in the main, fine. But if he is going to then he should be in for the last couple of league games as well. No point in chopping and changing now. Give him and the defence a bit more time playing together


It's very common to play your other goalie in cup games, De Gea was 1st team pick not so long ago and hardly played in any cup matches, now he's dropped down and is only playing in cup games.

blackpoolhibs
10-05-2021, 12:55 PM
Looks as if Matt Macey is going to face unprecedented levels of scrutiny from a section of our fans on the basis that he is not Ofir Marciano. Absolute madness some of the stuff that's been said on here this week. There has been absolutely zero evidence to suggest he's in any way inferior to Marciano- people are looking for stuff.

I agree with Andy, if you had been paying attention, there's very little if anyone saying he's a poor keeper? 99% of what i've read is folk saying they think rocky is the best keeper of the two, which is why he plays in all the league games.

Jack Ross has decided to play our 2nd string keeper in the cup, not something i'd have done especially with what's at stake and how little we actually win this thing, but thats why they pay him the big bucks.

Peevemor
10-05-2021, 01:00 PM
While I find the switching keepers thing a bit strange, I can only assume that Jack Ross has a good reason.

Either he's obliged to play Macey as part of the agreement that brought him here or he doesn't think there's that much between the pair of them in open play (each with pros & cons), but Macey is a better option in the event of a penalty shoot-out.

Shrekko
10-05-2021, 01:06 PM
I agree with Andy, if you had been paying attention, there's very little if anyone saying he's a poor keeper?

I can see you're really paying attention seeing as you're suggesting I'm claiming people are saying he's a poor keeper. Never said anything remotely like that.

I said he seems to be under an extremely high level of scrutiny from a section of our fans. Not even close to saying people are calling him a poor keeper.

blackpoolhibs
10-05-2021, 01:15 PM
I can see you're really paying attention seeing as you're suggesting I'm claiming people are saying he's a poor keeper. Never said anything remotely like that.

I said he seems to be under an extremely high level of scrutiny from a section of our fans. Not even close to saying people are calling him a poor keeper.

Where is the high scrutiny from all these fans, all most are saying is they have a favourite keeper who they think is best?

Unprecedented pressure, i really don't think so?

JimBHibees
10-05-2021, 01:21 PM
Yeah, I absolutely agree. I thought he did a good job getting back and covering when he realised where Robertson was. As you said, if he stayed on his line the Utd player has a free shot.

Think it was Robson was that the shot with his right foot which just went past.

Shrekko
10-05-2021, 01:34 PM
Where is the high scrutiny from all these fans, all most are saying is they have a favourite keeper who they think is best?

Unprecedented pressure, i really don't think so?

That's good we're actually back to talking about what I said, as opposed to stuff I didn't.... and you're entitled to disagree. You will always read what you want to depending on what latest strong viewpoint you have (and I know you were whining about our 'deliberately weakened' team on Sat- so of course we can't deviate from that narrative), but my opinion is that some of the stuff being aimed at Macey for incidents in games has been OTT. He's basically done nothing remotely seriously wrong but there's been plenty fault picking.

I've read at least 1 post saying we'd have beaten Motherwell in 90 minutes with Rocky in goals. I can't even fathom why that would have been the case, but no doubt you'll be able to tell me why that was a reasonable assumption.

hibbysam
10-05-2021, 03:09 PM
That's good we're actually back to talking about what I said, as opposed to stuff I didn't.... and you're entitled to disagree. You will always read what you want to depending on what latest strong viewpoint you have (and I know you were whining about our 'deliberately weakened' team on Sat- so of course we can't deviate from that narrative), but my opinion is that some of the stuff being aimed at Macey for incidents in games has been OTT. He's basically done nothing remotely seriously wrong but there's been plenty fault picking.

I've read at least 1 post saying we'd have beaten Motherwell in 90 minutes with Rocky in goals. I can't even fathom why that would have been the case, but no doubt you'll be able to tell me why that was a reasonable assumption.

He’d have saved at least one of the two goals, and by that reckoning there is a fair chance we’d have won the game comfortably. Whether you want people to ignore it or not, his positioning for both was brutal. Other than that he’s been steady and solid, without having a massive amount to do.

Danderhall Hibs
10-05-2021, 03:15 PM
He’d have saved at least one of the two goals, and by that reckoning there is a fair chance we’d have won the game comfortably. Whether you want people to ignore it or not, his positioning for both was brutal. Other than that he’s been steady and solid, without having a massive amount to do.

It’s easy to say that but based on his attempts either side of the Motherwell game, vs St Johnstone (both the Craig and Middleton goals) and Rangers where he parried an effort got the danger area I’m not sure where your confidence comes from.

hibbysam
10-05-2021, 03:17 PM
It’s easy to say that but based on his attempts either side of the Motherwell game, vs St Johnstone (both the Craig and Middleton goals) and Rangers where he parried an effort got the danger area I’m not sure where your confidence comes from.

The Middleton one? The boy had an open goal due to a mistake from Porteous, Rocky went to offer him a pass home, not his fault at all. Liam Craig’s also didn’t go into the middle of the goal at snail pace. Big differences.

Danderhall Hibs
10-05-2021, 03:21 PM
The Middleton one? The boy had an open goal due to a mistake from Porteous, Rocky went to offer him a pass home, not his fault at all. Liam Craig’s also didn’t go into the middle of the goal at snail pace. Big differences.

Hanlon was there for the option - he was miles out of his goal then slow to get back to a shot low and in the middle.

For the Craig one he was slow to dive.

No idea what he was doing for the Rangers one.

hibbysam
10-05-2021, 03:29 PM
Hanlon was there for the option - he was miles out of his goal then slow to get back to a shot low and in the middle.

For the Craig one he was slow to dive.

No idea what he was doing for the Rangers one.

Porteous literally passed the ball to a boy who had an open goal, portioning any blame at Rocky for that is laughable. His positioning was totally fine and it would’ve been a wonder save had he saved it. Whether slow to dive for Craig’s one is irrelevant, he wouldn’t have had to dive for the Motherwell one, which is the issue. They’re totally different scenario’s. The rangers one you’re complaining that he made a save?

I’ll stand by it, Marciano saves both of those goals against Motherwell with some comfort due to his positioning and reflexes. He does it time and time again.

Danderhall Hibs
10-05-2021, 03:35 PM
Porteous literally passed the ball to a boy who had an open goal, portioning any blame at Rocky for that is laughable. His positioning was totally fine and it would’ve been a wonder save had he saved it. Whether slow to dive for Craig’s one is irrelevant, he wouldn’t have had to dive for the Motherwell one, which is the issue. They’re totally different scenario’s. The rangers one you’re complaining that he made a save?

I’ll stand by it, Marciano saves both of those goals against Motherwell with some comfort due to his positioning and reflexes. He does it time and time again.

There’s no doubt Porteous caused it but if the goalie isn’t there as the last line of defence what is he there for? He stood behind Hanlon - could’ve been an easy save. Could’ve been a good save if he had been quicker to dive.

The Craig one he was slow to move.

The Rangers one he made a save and somehow managed to turn it back in to danger.

All just things to consider when making the assumption he’d have “definitely” saved the Motherwell goals. I think he’d have dived for them but can’t guarantee a save - based on the recent examples listed.

CMurdoch
10-05-2021, 03:35 PM
I can see you're really paying attention seeing as you're suggesting I'm claiming people are saying he's a poor keeper. Never said anything remotely like that.

I said he seems to be under an extremely high level of scrutiny from a section of our fans. Not even close to saying people are calling him a poor keeper.

I think the reasons for the scrutiny is two fold:
1. He isn't Marciano. The vast majority of us like and trust Rocky. This has been something we have built up over the past 5 years where the guy has saved our asses on numerous occasions. He has been reliable and most of us hoped he would stay.
2. Marciano's predecessors were average to poor so we are concerned about the risk of being left in the same position. Macey has very little positive career history having played very little football so the jury is out meantime. A couple of good performances and no rickets and it will go away.

I thought he was very good in hellish conditions on his debut at Parkhead. Strong wrists and a shot saver. Since then he has been back up to Rocky outwith the cup.
I thought he did well on Saturday making one decisive save from Shankland and holding one deflected at him from close range late on. I didn't buy into the narrative that he made mistakes at the Mothrwell goals and didn't hear any criticism in the media so must conclude that some Hibs supporters were being a little unreasonable.

Andy74
10-05-2021, 03:37 PM
Hanlon was there for the option - he was miles out of his goal then slow to get back to a shot low and in the middle.

For the Craig one he was slow to dive.

No idea what he was doing for the Rangers one.

Strange that you see these ones as mistakes but won’t hear any sort of questioning about Macey for the Motherwell goals.

Great that Macey is being supported but there appears to be a lot of it driven by some sort of bad feeling towards Rocky which isn’t that necessary.

Danderhall Hibs
10-05-2021, 03:40 PM
Strange that you see these ones as mistakes but won’t hear any sort of questioning about Macey for the Motherwell goals.

Great that Macey is being supported but there appears to be a lot of it driven by some sort of bad feeling towards Rocky which isn’t that necessary.

No bad feeling to Marciano on my part - just affording the same scrutiny to Rocky that we seem keen to put onto Macey.

Andy74
10-05-2021, 03:46 PM
No bad feeling to Marciano on my part - just affording the same scrutiny to Rocky that we seem keen to put onto Macey.

Most of what I’ve read is the other way.

Rocky has had 5 good years, he has a pedigree before us and played nearly 30 international games.

Suggestions from some that Macey is just as good or even better, that I’ve seen suggested, is what is drawing the scrutiny and discussion.

Fact is that Macey is back up. It wouldn’t be up for debate if Rocky was staying, regardless of the cup games and it remains to be seen what happens next season.

hibbysam
10-05-2021, 03:47 PM
There’s no doubt Porteous caused it but if the goalie isn’t there as the last line of defence what is he there for? He stood behind Hanlon - could’ve been an easy save. Could’ve been a good save if he had been quicker to dive.

The Craig one he was slow to move.

The Rangers one he made a save and somehow managed to turn it back in to danger.

All just things to consider when making the assumption he’d have “definitely” saved the Motherwell goals. I think he’d have dived for them but can’t guarantee a save - based on the recent examples listed.

He wouldn’t have had to dive for the second one, his positioning would’ve been right and he’d have simply picked the ball up. The first one I’m fairly comfortable that his reflexes would’ve stopped a fairly tame shot.

MWHIBBIES
10-05-2021, 03:48 PM
Personally would prefer Rocky in, but Macey isn't a bad option. I don't think we'll win or lose the game from either one playing.

AliboyFC
10-05-2021, 03:50 PM
I agree with Andy, if you had been paying attention, there's very little if anyone saying he's a poor keeper? 99% of what i've read is folk saying they think rocky is the best keeper of the two, which is why he plays in all the league games.

Jack Ross has decided to play our 2nd string keeper in the cup, not something i'd have done especially with what's at stake and how little we actually win this thing, but thats why they pay him the big bucks.

On twitter a lot of the arsenal fans and Plymouth fans were saying he was ****. He's been ok for us so far.

AliboyFC
10-05-2021, 03:51 PM
Personally would prefer Rocky in, but Macey isn't a bad option. I don't think we'll win or lose the game from either one playing.

Aye.

Danderhall Hibs
10-05-2021, 03:51 PM
He wouldn’t have had to dive for the second one, his positioning would’ve been right and he’d have simply picked the ball up. The first one I’m fairly comfortable that his reflexes would’ve stopped a fairly tame shot.

Yeah it’s all just assumptions. I’m assuming he’s off form (based on the goals listed) and wouldn’t have saved either. If he had he might well have parried it out to someone for a rebound.

All just guess work from both of us though.

truehibernian
10-05-2021, 04:00 PM
Strange that you see these ones as mistakes but won’t hear any sort of questioning about Macey for the Motherwell goals.

Great that Macey is being supported but there appears to be a lot of it driven by some sort of bad feeling towards Rocky which isn’t that necessary.

Both are good keepers Andy. Rocky will get the last two league games and bow out with all our best wishes, after a terrific spell at the club :aok:. Macey will be kept fresh and confident for the final. He's earned the gloves for the showpiece game (for me) and I don't think has done much wrong. If anything, in all the cup games, he's made some good and important saves.

Hopefully both have a winners medal round their neck in a fortnight and Rocky leaves a cup winner too :agree:

hibsbollah
10-05-2021, 04:10 PM
On twitter a lot of the arsenal fans and Plymouth fans were saying he was ****. He's been ok for us so far.

If Plymouth fans were saying that, fair enough. If Arsenal fans were saying that, he only played twice for the first team, so unless they were regularly watching him train I’d say that’s bollocks. Like a lot of stuff on Twitter.

Just checking, the season he was at Plymouth they’d just gone up to league one and they regularly yo-yo between the two leagues. They were relegated that year after finishing 4th bottom, and conceded the 2nd most goals in the league, but that’s probably also because the teams in that league are just better than Plymouth.

Very hard to draw any conclusions.

superfurryhibby
10-05-2021, 04:14 PM
Personally would prefer Rocky in, but Macey isn't a bad option. I don't think we'll win or lose the game from either one playing.

Agreed.

Northernhibee
10-05-2021, 08:20 PM
If Plymouth fans were saying that, fair enough. If Arsenal fans were saying that, he only played twice for the first team, so unless they were regularly watching him train I’d say that’s bollocks. Like a lot of stuff on Twitter.

Just checking, the season he was at Plymouth they’d just gone up to league one and they regularly yo-yo between the two leagues. They were relegated that year after finishing 4th bottom, and conceded the 2nd most goals in the league, but that’s probably also because the teams in that league are just better than Plymouth.

Very hard to draw any conclusions.
Goalkeepers get a lot of stick when they find themselves on a hiding to nothing, if the team in front of them are piss poor then they get the blame for that when there's only so much you can do.

I always thought that Ben Williams was a very good keeper for us, but if you were to just judge it on his last few months with us when Butcher was in charge you wouldn't think that.

Onion
10-05-2021, 09:43 PM
The Daily Cannon :greengrin

https://dailycannon.com/2021/05/how-is-matt-macey-doing-since-he-left-arsenal/

hibsbollah
10-05-2021, 09:51 PM
The Daily Cannon :greengrin

https://dailycannon.com/2021/05/how-is-matt-macey-doing-since-he-left-arsenal/



For such a short article he managed to include plenty of factual errors :greengrin

Steven79
11-05-2021, 06:06 AM
Not sure if it's been mentioned but he won the FA Cup last season with Arsenal (He was on the bench) so would him one of a few select players that have won both cups if we win the final.

oneone73
11-05-2021, 06:44 AM
Not sure if it's been mentioned but he won the FA Cup last season with Arsenal (He was on the bench) so would him one of a few select players that have won both cups if we win the final.

Along with Fraser Fyvie!

Borderhibbie76
11-05-2021, 07:08 AM
Porteous literally passed the ball to a boy who had an open goal, portioning any blame at Rocky for that is laughable. His positioning was totally fine and it would’ve been a wonder save had he saved it. Whether slow to dive for Craig’s one is irrelevant, he wouldn’t have had to dive for the Motherwell one, which is the issue. They’re totally different scenario’s. The rangers one you’re complaining that he made a save?

I’ll stand by it, Marciano saves both of those goals against Motherwell with some comfort due to his positioning and reflexes. He does it time and time again.

Not sure I understand your blind defence of Rocky..thebliam Craig goal at St J he's deffo culpable if Macey had let that in you and others would be all over it on here and he was also capable at Inbox for parrying a shot back into the danger area. Rocky is a good solid keeper whonive enjoyed having at Hibs but he's no as good as some on here would have u believe - we move on and so does he

hibbysam
11-05-2021, 07:19 AM
Not sure I understand your blind defence of Rocky..thebliam Craig goal at St J he's deffo culpable if Macey had let that in you and others would be all over it on here and he was also capable at Inbox for parrying a shot back into the danger area. Rocky is a good solid keeper whonive enjoyed having at Hibs but he's no as good as some on here would have u believe - we move on and so does he

I know Rocky makes some mistakes, he doesn’t let tame shots in that go in the middle of the goals though. The Liam craig one is totally different, although still saveable, the ibrox one he saved which is proving my point, regardless of how he does it.

Everyone acknowledges that Rocky makes some mistakes, albeit very little howlers, there’s plenty saying Macey hasn’t made any errors though. I know what one is blind defence.

Unseen work
12-05-2021, 10:22 PM
I don’t know if it’s just me but the rest of the players seem to love him I think?

Looks like there’s a real appreciation of him and friendly relationship with the other players and I think that’s also showing in the performances

Itsnoteasy
12-05-2021, 10:39 PM
I'm sure he is undefeated when played.

pacorosssco
12-05-2021, 10:42 PM
Is rocky mindset OK though going out contract and as we currently know no deal elsewhere will he risk all when his future at stack. For that reason Macey

nlandsafchibee
12-05-2021, 10:45 PM
He also commanded the air and made a low down fingertip save to turn around post with his great reach ,although the ref gave a goal kick .Yes I think players have confidence in him .

JimBHibees
13-05-2021, 06:17 AM
Was there any explanation about why Rocky wasn't involved yesterday? Toys out the pram by him or maybe attitude dipped in training and left out

Allant1981
13-05-2021, 07:29 AM
Was there any explanation about why Rocky wasn't involved yesterday? Toys out the pram by him or maybe attitude dipped in training and left out

Probably to do with his wife and kid being stuck in Germany now trying to get back home

BILLYHIBS
13-05-2021, 07:33 AM
Macey seems to launch the ball up the park then looks to see how it got on ? :confused:

I would much rather he tried to pick out a green jersey every time even if it means going short

MrRobot
13-05-2021, 08:47 AM
Macey seems to launch the ball up the park then looks to see how it got on ? :confused:

I would much rather he tried to pick out a green jersey every time even if it means going short

I didn’t notice that, i noticed he seemed passed with himself when he kicked it up the park and it didn’t go where he intended?

BILLYHIBS
13-05-2021, 08:49 AM
I didn’t notice that, i noticed he seemed passed with himself when he kicked it up the park and it didn’t go where he intended?

Yip saw that more than once