Murphy?

[21.05.2016]

Is he out for the season?

[Vault Boy]

Think he's back in training

[loanheadhibby]

Terrible signing.send him back to Glasgow. Hopefully we have a get out clause. Or at least, a pay per play contract.

[bingo70]

Terrible signing.send him back to Glasgow. Hopefully we have a get out clause. Or at least, a pay per play contract.

I’ve liked him when he’s played.

Not been good value for money but I wouldn’t say he’s a terrible signing. Every chance he could still offer something important between now and the next of the season.

[hibee-boys]

Any word on Cadden, we’ve been pretty light on the bench with Murphy/Cadden out last few games.

[Greencore]

Terrible signing.send him back to Glasgow. Hopefully we have a get out clause. Or at least, a pay per play contract.

Very injury prone and will be on a big-ish wage.

Dislike how we done a loan signing with sevco.

[Jim44]

Terrible signing.send him back to Glasgow. Hopefully we have a get out clause. Or at least, a pay per play contract.

Wishful thinking. We got him ostensibly on loan with a guarantee to buy him for next season. A bit like Aberdeen’s deal with Rangers for McCrorie. I didn’t like the sound of the deal at the time and it doesn’t look great at this stage. Let’s hope he can turn the corner and be of use to us next season.

[Peevemor]

When he's played he's been pretty good, chipping in with a couple of goals (from midfield? Who'd've thunk it?) and a few assists.

Just because he's been injured doesn't make him crap.

[B.H.F.C]

Don’t think he’s been up to much at all. The odd moment or good game but, even when he has played, I don’t think he’s contributed enough.

Wouldn’t mind having him back as an option for these last few games as we’re pretty short if anyone picks up an injury.

[The Count]

I have always believed it does not matter how good a player is if he is always out injured.It makes him a very expensive player per game.For that reason i would try and get out of the Murphy deal.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

When he's played he's been pretty good, chipping in with a couple of goals (from midfield? Who'd've thunk it?) and a few assists.

Just because he's been injured doesn't make him crap.

Welcome to the Hibs.net twilight zone :)

[hibbysam]

I just wish folk would stop saying they wish we can get out of the deal. He and us signed a contract, if we want out then we pay him out, fairly simple but a rather expensive exercise.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

He’s going to score the winner in the final..

[JimBHibees]

When he's played he's been pretty good, chipping in with a couple of goals (from midfield? Who'd've thunk it?) and a few assists.

Just because he's been injured doesn't make him crap.

He certainly isn't crap but frustrating to be injured so much. Hopefully he can play a part from the bench as can take a man on and create.

[JimBHibees]

He’s going to score the winner in the final..

Wouldn't rule it out.

[Peevemor]

He certainly isn't crap but frustrating to be injured so much. Hopefully he can play a part from the bench as can take a man on and create.I'd imagine he's probably more frustrated than us. He has about 470 career appearances (including subs) under his belt so he obviously isn't ordinarily injury prone.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

There’ll be none more frustrated with his injuries than Murphy.

[MWHIBBIES]

Terrible signing.send him back to Glasgow. Hopefully we have a get out clause. Or at least, a pay per play contract.

Real Classy.

Pay per play contract :faf:

[JimBHibees]

I'd imagine he's probably more frustrated than us. He has about 470 career appearances (including subs) under his belt so he obviously isn't ordinarily injury prone.

Agree must be doing his head in

[Greenbeard]

Eggshell and a woose.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

When he's played he's been pretty good, chipping in with a couple of goals (from midfield? Who'd've thunk it?) and a few assists.

Just because he's been injured doesn't make him crap.

Unfortunately the chipping that stands out, is that ridiculous one against the bar in the League Cup Semi..

[Spike Mandela]

Just hasn’t cut it with us, and at this moment, doesn’t merit a place in the team imo.

[SMAXXA]

Real Classy.

Pay per play contract :faf:

Correct absolute weapon of a statement. Love how fans are so fickle, what happened to backing the lad bet he’s more frustrated than us and has always conducted himself exemplary since he’s been at Hibs.

Hope he gets back for as he’s shown he’s an asset when he’s playing and one of the only players we have who can chance a game in a heartbeat. That magic moment might still be handy between now and the end of the season.

[loanheadhibby]

Real Classy.

Pay per play contract :faf:

What? Are we a charity? Keep paying a guy from our supports season ticket money for next to no return.

Tells a story that Jack Ross has openly said he wants a new left sided attacker for next season.

[jacomo]

What? Are we a charity? Keep paying a guy from our supports season ticket money for next to no return.

Tells a story that Jack Ross has openly said he wants a new left sided attacker for next season.


It’s called professional sport. There is inherent risk.

Hibs is a club that honours its contracts and rightly so.

[Andy74]

What? Are we a charity? Keep paying a guy from our supports season ticket money for next to no return.

Tells a story that Jack Ross has openly said he wants a new left sided attacker for next season.

Yeah we probably should have emptied Martin Boyle for example when he kept missing months at time...that would have shown him that we aren't a charity.

[superfurryhibby]

I'd imagine he's probably more frustrated than us. He has about 470 career appearances (including subs) under his belt so he obviously isn't ordinarily injury prone.

65 appearances in the past four seasons.

An expensive gamble which hasn’t worked out thus far. Decent player though, hopefully he will come good and contribute over the remainder of the season.

[Dr What If?]

Wishful thinking. We got him ostensibly on loan with a guarantee to buy him for next season. A bit like Aberdeen’s deal with Rangers for McCrorie. I didn’t like the sound of the deal at the time and it doesn’t look great at this stage. Let’s hope he can turn the corner and be of use to us next season.
Not heard McCrorie mentioned in a while. When he bumped us for Aberdeen we had just missed out on a future Scotland captain and he seemed to hit the ground running. He seems to have disappeared post Christmas.

[loanheadhibby]

Yeah we probably should have emptied Martin Boyle for example when he kept missing months at time...that would have shown him that we aren't a charity.

I think Boyle had age on his side and had played more than 65 games in the previous 4 years. And like the rest of us, Murphy another year older. Let’s keep hold of him in the hope he mange’s 16 games next season where we’ll hopefully be playing most midweeks up to Christmas

[loanheadhibby]

It’s called professional sport. There is inherent risk.

Hibs is a club that honours its contracts and rightly so.

Hibs are also a business who don’t have the luxury of carrying expensive players prone to injury. Can we afford to have players with a history of being injured sitting on the sidelines on big salaries?

Hopefully we can cut our losses and get someone in who can contribute on a more regular basis.

[bigwheel]

Hibs are also a business who don’t have the luxury of carrying expensive players prone to injury. Can we afford to have players with a history of being injured sitting on the sidelines on big salaries?

Hopefully we can cut our losses and get someone in who can contribute on a more regular basis.

He doesn’t though, it is only last year and this where he has been unfortunately impacted with injuries, before then he hadn’t had any long lay offs...


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[Viva_Palmeiras]

He doesn’t though, it is only last year and this where he has been unfortunately impacted with injuries, before then he hadn’t had any long lay offs...


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I’m gonna take a punt and suggest that LH has made his mind up (but hopes he’s wrong)

[BoomtownHibees]

Hibs are also a business who don’t have the luxury of carrying expensive players prone to injury. Can we afford to have players with a history of being injured sitting on the sidelines on big salaries?

Hopefully we can cut our losses and get someone in who can contribute on a more regular basis.

How much are we paying him?

[Brightside]

Not heard McCrorie mentioned in a while. When he bumped us for Aberdeen we had just missed out on a future Scotland captain and he seemed to hit the ground running. He seems to have disappeared post Christmas.

He’s their best player.

[loanheadhibby]

How much are we paying him?

Far too much for the return we are getting. There can be no doubt about that.

[loanheadhibby]

I’m gonna take a punt and suggest that LH has made his mind up (but hopes he’s wrong)

I hope I am wrong as well but you’d possibly agree this season has been a write off for Murphy? Or are you happy with his return for the season?

[Hibee Mac]

He’s their best player.That's not the impression I got from reading their forum a few months back!...

[Callum_62]

What? Are we a charity? Keep paying a guy from our supports season ticket money for next to no return.

Tells a story that Jack Ross has openly said he wants a new left sided attacker for next season.Do you get sick pay from your job?

Are they a charity?

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[MWHIBBIES]

That's not the impression I got from reading their forum a few months back!...

If you read this place you'd think Doidge and Hanlon were rubbish when they are easily 2 of our best players.

[superfurryhibby]

He doesn’t though, it is only last year and this where he has been unfortunately impacted with injuries, before then he hadn’t had any long lay offs...


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He’s played 65 games in the past four seasons. Prior to that he was playing regularly.

[loanheadhibby]

Do you get sick pay from your job?

Are they a charity?

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Thankfully I am never off sick but if I’d been absent as much as Murphy, I’d be on half pay at best.

So are you satisfied with the return we have had from Murphy?

[loanheadhibby]

He’s played 65 games in the past four seasons. Prior to that he was playing regularly.

And sadly, age is catching up with him. The older we get, the harder it is to overcome these injuries and it takes longer to get back to fitness.

As I say, I am happy to be proved wrong on Murphy but for me, it’s not worked out for him at Easter Road.

[keep the faith]

Do you get sick pay from your job?

Are they a charity?

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Exactly. Sometimes I think our players will get less stick on kickback than they get from some on here.
I am proud this club does the right thing whether that be look after sir david etc or try to get jamie murphy fit again. It's what classy clubs do and give me that over treating players as shabby short term commodities.
Long term success comes as a result of good players and great dressing rooms and not quick fixes.

[J-C]

Some players never fully recover from cruciate injuries,I know his recent injuries are not his knee but are niggly recurring injuries he probably didn't get prior to his serious knee injury. So far hes been a huge disappointment, will a good pre season help him, who knows but coming from Rangers he'll be on a few pennies.

[hibbysam]

Hibs are also a business who don’t have the luxury of carrying expensive players prone to injury. Can we afford to have players with a history of being injured sitting on the sidelines on big salaries?

Hopefully we can cut our losses and get someone in who can contribute on a more regular basis.

‘Expensive’ ... must’ve missed the part where Hibs/Murphy have disclosed how much they are being paid. Sure we should just bin Scott Allan as well, get rid, no use to us injured.

Again, we can’t just rip up contracts, so it’s going to cost us just as much to get rid now than have him for a year.

[hibbysam]

Thankfully I am never off sick but if I’d been absent as much as Murphy, I’d be on half pay at best.

So are you satisfied with the return we have had from Murphy?

He’s not been absent though, he’s been at his work nearly every day since joining Hibs.

[superfurryhibby]

And sadly, age is catching up with him. The older we get, the harder it is to overcome these injuries and it takes longer to get back to fitness.

As I say, I am happy to be proved wrong on Murphy but for me, it’s not worked out for him at Easter Road.

Thus far Murphy has been a poor signing, that is undeniable. Recruiting players who have had serious injury is always gamble. Hibs signed a player with some pedigree and took a risk that hasn't worked out. We have done the same with Magennis and thus far he is in the same boat, the difference being that he is much younger. Hopefully Murphy will recover fitness and contribute more next season. Some you win and some you lose.

[California-Hibs]

He's going to play a big part in the Semi and us winning the Final and will go down a legend. Watch this space.

[JimBHibees]

And sadly, age is catching up with him. The older we get, the harder it is to overcome these injuries and it takes longer to get back to fitness.

As I say, I am happy to be proved wrong on Murphy but for me, it’s not worked out for him at Easter Road.

He has contributed good game and goal v Celtic excellent goal v Dundee in cup, won penalties in St Mirren and Aberdeen wins though can't deny overall it is disappointing however he still has time left and probably needs a decent rest to properly recuperate then come into next season raring to go. Frustrating thing is he clearly has the talent. Not giving up on Jamie yet.

[JimBHibees]

He's going to play a big part in the Semi and us winning the Final and will go down a legend. Watch this space.

Wouldn't rule that out very decent option from the bench is he back training yet?

[loanheadhibby]

He’s not been absent though, he’s been at his work nearly every day since joining Hibs.

Are you satisfied with his return this season?

[Stanton Spence]

Jamie Murphy is an excellent player and will contribute a lot to this hibs side next season.
I am sure Jamie will be as frustrated as any of us are about his contribution this year
I also think Cadden and Irvine (if he signs) will also benefit from a good pre season and contribute a lot more than they have this season.

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[Andy74]

Are you satisfied with his return this season?

That’s football. Players get injured in the course of doing their work.

He has contributed when he has played, clearly we’d like to see more of him.

In terms of his job I assume he is turning up, doing rehab and fitness work and generally everything being asked of him.

[Since90+2]

He's a very good player by Scottish Premier standards when he is on form and fully fit. The issue with him is that he seems to be very injury prone.

If he can get back fit for the semi and/or final if we make it then he could play a big part still this season.

[jacomo]

Are you satisfied with his return this season?


You are like a dog with a bone!

We signed a decent player for a position we needed. Due to injuries it’s not worked out as hoped. No one - least of all Jamie Murphy - can be satisfied with how much he’s contributed so far.

What more do you want??

[Fergus52]

When on form and fully fit he's one of our most technically gifted players, great touch, good movement and final ball, and maybe the only player in the squad apart from Boyle who can regularly beat defenders one on one through dribbling.

Obviously frustrating how much he has been injured, but I don't know how anyone can question his quality when he has played (although the misses in the St Johnstone semi final were pretty bad).

I remember when I was defending Newall a couple of months ago and posting chance creation stats, when you took away contributions from set pieces Newall's numbers fell away a lot and looking at expected assists from only open play Murphy was by far and away our best player for regularly creating high quality chances for our forwards.

[hibbysam]

Are you satisfied with his return this season?

Nope, but I’m not going to be demanding that we pay him up and send him on his way. I’m not satisfied with what Scott Allan has given us, same applies. Sean Mackie, same applies. All of them have the potential to be big players for us next season. I’m also not going to make up things about how much each of them is paid either.

[hibbysam]

You are like a dog with a bone!

We signed a decent player for a position we needed. Due to injuries it’s not worked out as hoped. No one - least of all Jamie Murphy - can be satisfied with how much he’s contributed so far.

What more do you want??

Murphy to accept ripping up his contract with no money exchanging hands of course 😂

[Steve20]

Very injury prone and will be on a big-ish wage.

Dislike how we done a loan signing with sevco.

No different doing a loan with Rangers than Celtic, and that worked out well for us in the past.

[Onceinawhile]

Has shown flashes this season, but I don't think he's had a great output.

Still annoyed at him for missing two easy chances at nil nil in the semi final.

Who knows what will happen next year.

[easty]

Nope, but I’m not going to be demanding that we pay him up and send him on his way. I’m not satisfied with what Scott Allan has given us, same applies. Sean Mackie, same applies. All of them have the potential to be big players for us next season. I’m also not going to make up things about how much each of them is paid either.

Does Sean Mackie have the potential to be a big player for us next season? I’m not sure he does.

On the point of Murphy generally, he’s obviously a good player, he’ll be pissed off he’s not played more football, and with a bit more luck without injuries next season he could be one of our most important players. Up to this point though, it’s not been a “good signing”. Nobodies fault. Just like Magennis.

[hibbysam]

Does Sean Mackie have the potential to be a big player for us next season? I’m not sure he does.

On the point of Murphy generally, he’s obviously a good player, he’ll be pissed off he’s not played more football, and with a bit more luck without injuries next season he could be one of our most important players. Up to this point though, it’s not been a “good signing”. Nobodies fault. Just like Magennis.

He’s shown he has clear ability, and with Stevenson getting older, Doig’s future being speculated on, and us requiring plenty of depth, I’ve no doubt he will be if he is fit.

[easty]

He’s shown he has clear ability, and with Stevenson getting older, Doig’s future being speculated on, and us requiring plenty of depth, I’ve no doubt he will be if he is fit.

I hope so, but from what I've seen of Mackie, I'd not be too comfortable with him being our starting LB next season, if Doig does go.

[hibbysam]

I hope so, but from what I've seen of Mackie, I'd not be too comfortable with him being our starting LB next season, if Doig does go.

He’s shown more previously than Doig did prior to this season, however being a big player for us doesn’t necessarily mean our first choice left back, we are going to need a far bigger squad next season.

[jacomo]

I hope so, but from what I've seen of Mackie, I'd not be too comfortable with him being our starting LB next season, if Doig does go.


I think he’s got potential, but like you I don’t think we’ve seen enough to be confident he could be our regular left back.

[Since90+2]

Mackie isn't good enough to be a starting first pick in a team who wants to finish 3rd.

Murphy, when fit, is.

[superfurryhibby]

He’s shown more previously than Doig did prior to this season, however being a big player for us doesn’t necessarily mean our first choice left back, we are going to need a far bigger squad next season.

Mackie is 23 this year. He's played very few games for Hibs, albeit having suffered injuries that have set him back. I've not seen anything thus far that makes me think he he will become a regular player for HIbs. Out of contract next year, so he'll be hoping for an injury free chance to make an impression.

[Nicho87]

If there is a clause to get out of the Murphy deal I hope hibs are taking it.

[superfurryhibby]

If there is a clause to get out of the Murphy deal I hope hibs are taking it.

Dream on, that isn't going to happen.

[California-Hibs]

Wouldn't rule that out very decent option from the bench is he back training yet?

His Instagram yesterday was a picture of him holding his boots with the 👀 picture. I'm assuming he's returned to training. Can change a game with his movement!

[CMurdoch]

Are you satisfied with his return this season?

More of a return on Murphy than Allan, Mallan, Gray, McGregor, Magennis, Mackie, Wright, S McGinn etc etc etc.

[Greenbeard]

Mackie isn't good enough to be a starting first pick in a team who wants to finish 3rd.

Murphy, when fit, is.
Murphy may be the more likely of the two to win you a game but he is also more likely to lose you a game. Which of the two would you want on your left hand side if under the cosh?

[Highwayman]

I’ve no doubt what I’ve seen of Murphy this season he has quality.
However as previous posts have stated,you can have all the necessary qualities but you’re not much use to the team sitting on the treatment table.
I’m struggling to understand how anyone at ER would have agreed to a deal whereby a loan player who is struggling to recover from a very serious long term injury is guaranteed a contract at the end of the deal.
Seems similar to whoever gave Brian Graham a two year contract when he was only meant to get one year.

[Since90+2]

Murphy may be the more likely of the two to win you a game but he is also more likely to lose you a game. Which of the two would you want on your left hand side if under the cosh?

Well Murphy is a winger and the other is a left back/wing back. I'm not sure you can say Murphy is more likely to lose you a game because he is a forward, by that logic Boyle is more likely to lose you a game than McGinn.

If we were under the cosh I'd expect our defenders to defend and our forward players to carry the ball forward, win fouls to ease pressure on the backline and hit on the break.

[Hibee Mac]

I’ve no doubt what I’ve seen of Murphy this season he has quality.
However as previous posts have stated,you can have all the necessary qualities but you’re not much use to the team sitting on the treatment table.
I’m struggling to understand how anyone at ER would have agreed to a deal whereby a loan player who is struggling to recover from a very serious long term injury is guaranteed a contract at the end of the deal.
Seems similar to whoever gave Brian Graham a two year contract when he was only meant to get one year.We accidentally gave Brian Graham a 2 year contract instead of a 1 year deal??

[MWHIBBIES]

Murphy may be the more likely of the two to win you a game but he is also more likely to lose you a game. Which of the two would you want on your left hand side if under the cosh?

The better, more experienced one. Murphy.

[hhibs]

Mackie is 23 this year. He's played very few games for Hibs, albeit having suffered injuries that have set him back. I've not seen anything thus far that makes me think he he will become a regular player for HIbs. Out of contract next year, so he'll be hoping for an injury free chance to make an impression.




I still have high hopes for Mackie ,not just at full back ,can play a few positions ,a big season ahead for him.

[hibbysam]

Mackie is 23 this year. He's played very few games for Hibs, albeit having suffered injuries that have set him back. I've not seen anything thus far that makes me think he he will become a regular player for HIbs. Out of contract next year, so he'll be hoping for an injury free chance to make an impression.

You’ve not seen anything, anything at all, in any of his games for us, that makes you believe he can be a regular player? He’s had some outstanding performances for us, and even this season when he had to step in he was very good until his injury done him over.

[superfurryhibby]

You’ve not seen anything, anything at all, in any of his games for us, that makes you believe he can be a regular player? He’s had some outstanding performances for us, and even this season when he had to step in he was very good until his injury done him over.

Opinions eh, mine is as stated, I haven't seen anything from him that makes me feel he will become a first team regular. No outstanding performances, a few good passes, yes.

[easty]

I still have high hopes for Mackie ,not just at full back ,can play a few positions ,a big season ahead for him.

What positions?

[Since90+2]

You’ve not seen anything, anything at all, in any of his games for us, that makes you believe he can be a regular player? He’s had some outstanding performances for us, and even this season when he had to step in he was very good until his injury done him over.

Genuinely can't remember any games he has played when you could describe him as outstanding.

[Ronniekirk]

More of a return on Murphy than Allan, Mallan, Gray, McGregor, Magennis, Mackie, Wright, S McGinn etc etc etc.

Mcgregor came in after we we were on a losing streak and drove us on to some good victories including his goal v Dundee United at Tannadice
Murphy won us some penalties and scored and showed enough to suggest that if fully fit would be an asset
But thsts now three times I think he has been out injured if that’s repeated next season you can’t rely on week in week out
It’s not ideal ,given Drey Wright csnt command a place in team
I think it will be next Season before we can judge Mcgennis but he needs to hit the ground running at the start of the season Ross has high hopes for him so hope he can live up to that



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[JimBHibees]

His Instagram yesterday was a picture of him holding his boots with the 👀 picture. I'm assuming he's returned to training. Can change a game with his movement!

Totally agree definitely has quality.

[hhibs]

What positions?


midfield.

[Lago]

I’ve liked him when he’s played.

Not been good value for money but I wouldn’t say he’s a terrible signing. Every chance he could still offer something important between now and the next of the season.
Frankly he's been an absolute waste of money.

[Peevemor]

Frankly he's been an absolute waste of money.Apart from his goals and assists?

[CMurdoch]

Frankly he's been an absolute waste of money.

Frankly Mr Shankly your a bit wrong :wink:.
Only 10 Hibs players have played more minutes this season than Murphy so fair to say many Hibs players you should be targeting with your insight before him.
Some are sacred cows so take care.

[WeeRussell]

A few posts displaying a clear lack of sharpness on this thread - should we just rip up their hibs.net contracts while we’re at it?

[Hibbyradge]

If there is a clause to get out of the Murphy deal I hope hibs are taking it.

:agree:

We should get out of the contracts for all players who have long term injuries.

Murphy, Magennis, Mackie and Allan can all gtf as can anyone else who is dumb enough to get hurt.

Losers, the lot of them. Hearts didn't wait for Cummings to ruin them financially. Got rid asap and rightly so.

[one day maybe...]

Frankly Mr Shankly your a bit wrong :wink:.
Only 10 Hibs players have played more minutes this season than Murphy so fair to say many Hibs players you should be targeting with your insight before him.
Some are sacred cows so take care.

Wow i'd never have thought that, he'd been in my team week in week out if he could put his injury probs behind him. As for Mackie its the same scenario, the guy needs to playing on a regular injury free basis.

[hibeejeebies]

A few posts displaying a clear lack of sharpness on this thread - should we just rip up their hibs.net contracts while we’re at it?

😁

Pay per post deals Russell.