Boyle suspended for semi?

[scoopyboy]

Two bookings in the cup this season but I can't remember if it is still two for a suspension or if it was upped to three.

[Eyrie]

Not sure, but I'd assume Gogic is out after his red today.

[Juniper Greens]

3 bookings. Clean slate from the semi. So I think he's ok

[JGS56]

Boyle is out of the semi

Latest rule book 2020 / 2021

Accumulation of two cautionable offences in The Scottish Cup for clubs whichenter the competition after Round 2 (caution totals revert to zero prior to startof semi-final rounds
1 match automatic suspension
Effective immediately to the next match in the same Specified Cup Competition

[JohnMcM]

Two bookings in the cup this season but I can't remember if it is still two for a suspension or if it was upped to three.

I can’t find the info but I think we will be without Boyle and Gogic?

[JGS56]

Link to this years rulebook.
See page 141.

scottish-fa-jpp-2020-21-nov-2020.pdf (scottishfa.co.uk) (https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/7309/scottish-fa-jpp-2020-21-nov-2020.pdf)

[Tommy75]

Not sure, but I'd assume Gogic is out after his red today.

Absolutely no need for Gogic to go over when he was already on a booking, so frustrating. I hope Ross gives him the hairdryer treatment!

[hfcok]

I can’t find the info but I think we will be without Boyle and Gogic?

Accumulation of two cautionable offences in
the William Hill Scottish Cup for clubs who enter the competition after Round 3 (caution totals revert to zero prior to start of semi-final rounds)
Accumulation of two cautionable offences in the Betfred Cup (caution totals revert to zero prior to start of Round 2 and prior to the start of semi-final
rounds)
Accumulation of two cautionable offences in
the IRN BRU Cup for clubs who enter the competition after Round 2 (caution totals revert to zero prior to the start of semi-final rounds)
Accumulation of two cautionable offences in
all other Specified Cup Competitions (caution totals revert to zero prior to start of semi-final rounds)

So hopefully be ok for Boyler🤞

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Both Boyle and Gogic will be huge misses for the semi. Hopefully avoid both the Huns and Aberdeen if they get through as we'd need our best team to beat them. St Mirren or Killie in Semi please.

[theonlywayisup]

Two bookings in the cup this season but I can't remember if it is still two for a suspension or if it was upped to three.

No great loss though, we've got Wright has back up :rolleyes:

[Irish_Steve]

No great loss though, we've got Wright has back up :rolleyes:

Drey to take on the SDG role and score the cup winner in the 95th minute this time...

[Blaster]

No great loss though, we've got Wright has back up :rolleyes:

Let’s hope Cadden is fit for it

[Peevemor]

No great loss though, we've got Wright has back up :rolleyes:I thought Wright looked pretty good today.

[JohnMcM]

I thought Wright looked pretty good today.

My daughter thinks so too but says he is not a good footballer :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

I thought Wright looked pretty good today.

Really?

[B.H.F.C]

I thought Wright looked pretty good today.

Horrendous. One opportunity to attack the full back but passed it across the pitch, backwards, to our left back. And let the defenders step up to hit the pens. It’s not the fact that he’s poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be positive.

[Peevemor]

Really?

Yep. I wasn't thrilled to see him coming on, but I though he did pretty well. Definitely the best of his recent substitute appearances.

[Since90+2]

Is Cadden likely to be back for the semi?

[BoomtownHibees]

Yep. I wasn't thrilled to see him coming on, but I though he did pretty well. Definitely the best of his recent substitute appearances.

I don’t think that’s saying much tbh. What is it you think he done well?

[Peevemor]

Horrendous. One opportunity to attack the full back but passed it across the pitch, backwards, to our left back. And let the defenders step up to hit the pens. It’s not the fact that he’s poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be positive.

I think that's unfair.

[Wilson]

Horrendous. One opportunity to attack the full back but passed it across the pitch, backwards, to our left back. And let the defenders step up to hit the pens. It’s not the fact that he’s poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be positive.

Sounds like a confidence issue to me. He was right, in that event, to let someone like Porto take a pen before him.

[Gordy M]

I thought it was the case that all cautions were 'cancelled' after the quarters so the only way you would miss a final was a red in the semi final?

[Since90+2]

I thought it was the case that all cautions were 'cancelled' after the quarters so the only way you would miss a final was a red in the semi final?

They are cancelled for the semis. Not beforehand.

[Magpie]

Read through this thread and still confused on confirmation, is Boyle suspended for the semi final?

[hibbysam]

Read through this thread and still confused on confirmation, is Boyle suspended for the semi final?

Yes, since someone has put this years rule up now he is.

[Keith_M]

Yep. I wasn't thrilled to see him coming on, but I though he did pretty well. Definitely the best of his recent substitute appearances.


That's a pretty low bar, though.

[Gordy M]

They are cancelled for the semis. Not beforehand.

Yeh but they are cancelled/reset between quarters and semis......where we are now.

[Magpie]

Yes, since someone has put this years rule up now he is.

Thanks. He will be a miss for sure, if anything it means he will be extra fresh for the final 😎

[Sir David Gray]

Read through this thread and still confused on confirmation, is Boyle suspended for the semi final?

Yep.

[Since90+2]

Yeh but they are cancelled/reset between quarters and semis......where we are now.

He is suspended for the semi.

[B.H.F.C]

I think that's unfair.

Why? What did he do well?

[Juniper Greens]

I still don't think he is

[B.H.F.C]

Boyle being suspended reduces our chances of getting to the final massively.

[Irish_Steve]

Gogic too then, two yellows in one game or doesn`t it work like that - can`t remember if he was booked in any other games

[BoomtownHibees]

Gogic too then, two yellows in one game or doesn`t it work like that - can`t remember if he was booked in any other games

Gogic because he was red carded

[Peevemor]

Why? What did he do well?

I'm not going to make a list - it's up to you to watch the match.

As I said, I wasn't pleased to see him coming on, but I thought he did well.

The substitutions definitely swung the flow of the game in our favour, so he must have done something right.

[calumhibee1]

Horrendous. One opportunity to attack the full back but passed it across the pitch, backwards, to our left back. And let the defenders step up to hit the pens. It’s not the fact that he’s poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be positive.

Agree.

Although to be fair I wouldn’t have wanted him taking a pen so I won’t criticise him for that.

[BoomtownHibees]

I'm not going to make a list.

Hahaha. Come on. It won’t take you long

[007]

Horrendous. One opportunity to attack the full back but passed it across the pitch, backwards, to our left back. And let the defenders step up to hit the pens. It’s not the fact that he’s poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be positive.

Was surprised that Hanlon didn't take one.

[calumhibee1]

Was surprised that Hanlon didn't take one.

I fancied it to be Hanlon instead of Porteous or McGinn.

[Hibbyradge]

Hahaha. Come on. It won’t take you long

Wright was perfectly fine when he came on.

[Hiber-nation]

Why? What did he do well?

Absolutely nothing. His confidence seems to be shot to hell as he was decent with St Johnstone. He was as good as a man short. We've got to find a way to move him on.

[Borderhibbie76]

Wright was perfectly fine when he came on.

He totally was but doesn't suit the agenda against him mate...him and Hallberg turned the match back in our favour

[B.H.F.C]

I'm not going to make a list - it's up to you to watch the match.

As I said, I wasn't pleased to see him coming on, but I thought he did well.

The substitutions definitely swung the flow of the game in our favour, so he must have done something right.

Did watch it and didn’t see the positive things you did. Just wondered if you wanted to share what you saw?

[Borderhibbie76]

Absolutely nothing. His confidence seems to be shot to hell as he was decent with St Johnstone. He was as good as a man short. We've got to find a way to move him on.

Hes not been great but this is utter nonsense

[oneone73]

He totally was but doesn't suit the agenda against him mate...him and Hallberg turned the match back in our favour

Yep, both deserve great credit.

[BoomtownHibees]

Wright was perfectly fine when he came on.

As already asked, what did he do well?

[BoomtownHibees]

He totally was but doesn't suit the agenda against him mate...him and Hallberg turned the match back in our favour

There is no agenda. If someone can tell me what they saw him doing well when he came on then feel free to share

[IberianHibernian]

He totally was but doesn't suit the agenda against him mate...him and Hallberg turned the match back in our favourVery much so . Reading some of the comments , It`s almost like some people wanted subs to do badly to say " told you so " .

[Irish_Steve]

Gogic because he was red carded

But it wasn`t a straight red or doesn`t that matter?

[Hibbyradge]

As already asked, what did he do well?

What a stupid and weighted question.

[Hibbyradge]

There is no agenda. If someone can tell me what they saw him doing well when he came on then feel free to share

That's bollocks.

What did he do so badly that you think he was rotten?

He was absolutely fine.

[Shanksaidno]

But it wasn`t a straight red or doesn`t that matter?

So we put Lewis at full back and use Doig as a winger. So we switch most attacks down the left side. Magennis comes in for gogic and plays central and shows what he can really do ...Sorted !!

[BoomtownHibees]

What a stupid and weighted question.

Any chance of an answer?

[Since90+2]

As already asked, what did he do well?

To be fair he did atleast add an extra bit of energy that was missing.

[BoomtownHibees]

That's bollocks.

What did he do so badly that you think he was rotten?

He was absolutely fine.

I never once said he was rotten

[Hibbyradge]

Any chance of an answer?

What did he do so wrong? Nothing. Ergo he was perfectly fine.

[Northernhibee]

He totally was but doesn't suit the agenda against him mate...him and Hallberg turned the match back in our favour

Yeah, both subs were good. Absolutely pathetic to go after him today.

[Hibbyradge]

I never once said he was rotten

So what are you on about?

[Hiber-nation]

Hes not been great but this is utter nonsense

It's not, he looks terrified of the ball and just kept giving it away. I still can't believe how bad he's been as he looked really good for St Johnstone.

[Wilson]

So we put Lewis at full back and use Doig as a winger. So we switch most attacks down the left side. Magennis comes in for gogic and plays central and shows what he can really do ...Sorted !!

Exactly.

I'd posted before the Stranraer game that we needed to get more out of the fringe players. Now we have no choice. We didn't sign them for nothing so now is their chance to shine.

[BoomtownHibees]

So what are you on about?

What are you on about?

I questioned a post that said he done “pretty well”. I don’t think he done “pretty well” at all. I thought he done pretty much nothing of note. That doesn’t mean I think he was rotten (your words)

[BoomtownHibees]

What did he do so wrong? Nothing. Ergo he was perfectly fine.

Gives the ball away, wants to go backwards all the time, doesn’t want to go past people

Your turn

[Hibbyradge]

What are you on about?

I questioned a post that said he done “pretty well”. I don’t think he done “pretty well” at all. I thought he done pretty much nothing of note. That doesn’t mean I think he was rotten (your words)

You jumped on me when I said he was perfectly fine demanding lists if what he had done.

Sounds like you agree.

[Hibbyradge]

Gives the ball away, wants to go backwards all the time, doesn’t want to go past people

Your turn

What did he do badly today?

Nothing. He was perfectly fine.

[B.H.F.C]

Still to hear what Drey Wright did well?

Fair question, without criticising, which nobody seems to want to answer?

[BoomtownHibees]

You jumped on me when I said he was perfectly fine demanding lists if what he had done.

Sounds like you agree.

Jumped on you? I simply asked what you think he done well

[Glory Lurker]

Thread was bad enough when it was confirming Boyle's suspended.

[Hibbyradge]

Jumped on you? I simply asked what you think he done well

Cool

[BoomtownHibees]

What did he do badly today?

Nothing. He was perfectly fine.

So apart from giving the ball away, going backwards and not going past people he was fine? Cool

[Vault Boy]

Still to hear what Drey Wright did well?

Fair question, without criticising, which nobody seems to want to answer?

At one point near the end of normal time he did really well to track back and dispossess one of their forwards after they'd drifted past McGinn. Rest of the team were blowing, understandably, but he was sharp there.

I thought he generally carried the ball well and mostly retained possession. By no means was he excellent, but he was just fine and his energy was very much needed at that point.

He made a hash of his first attacking dribble and folk got their pitchforks out IMO.

[Hibbyradge]

So apart from giving the ball away, going backwards and not going past people he was fine? Cool

But you don't think he was rotten? :aok:

[Tully]

We won why not just enjoy it , lifes good tonight :flag::flag::flag:

[B.H.F.C]

At one point near the end of normal time he did really well to track back and dispossess one of their forwards after they'd drifted past McGinn. Rest of the team were blowing, understandably, but he was sharp there.

I thought he generally carried the ball well and mostly retained possession. By no means was he excellent, but he was just fine and his energy was very much needed at that point.

He made a hash of his first attacking dribble and folk got their pitchforks out IMO.

See I think that’s fair. The stupid sarcastic ‘cool’ posts less so.

The one when he passed the ball from right wing to left back, instead of trying to be positive, just summed him up for me. It not the being poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be good.

[Glory Lurker]

We won why not just enjoy it , lifes good tonight :flag::flag::flag:

You'd think, eh?

[BoomtownHibees]

But you don't think he was rotten? :aok:

I don’t think he was rotten and I don’t think he was good. Somewhere in between for me. Not someone I’d be pushing for us playing in the semi final

[Hibbyradge]

I don’t think he was rotten and I don’t think he was good. Somewhere in between for me. Not someone I’d be pushing for us playing in the semi final

Pretty much what I've been saying. He was perfectly fine. Not fantastic, not rotten. Fine.

Let's leave it with us agreeing?

[BoomtownHibees]

Pretty much what I've been saying. He was perfectly fine. Not fantastic, not rotten. Fine.

Let's leave it with us agreeing?

Yep, fine

[Hibbyradge]

We won why not just enjoy it , lifes good tonight :flag::flag::flag:

We're still allowed to have different opinions when we win! :wink:

[JohnMcM]

I thought Wright looked pretty good today.

My daughter thinks so too but says he is not a good footballer :greengrin

[Peevemor]

This place is brutal.

Why can't people just accept that even players they don't rate can sometimes do well.

His very first attack was clumsy, but after that Wright played well enough.

He carried the ball forward where possible, generally found his teammates with passes and at one point did a wee heel flick thing with the inside of his right boot to make space for himself on the corner of the box.

As I said before but people have chosen to ignore, the double substitution swung possession in our favour big style, therefore Wright played his part.

Disagree if you want, I can't be arsed arguing.

[Hibee Mac]

We will struggle without Gogic and Boyle, two of our best players in recent games. I think Gogic in particular will be a massive miss in the middle of the park, we'll need to pull something out the bag if we're to get to the final.

[BroxburnHibee]

This place is brutal.

Why can't people just accept that even players they don't rate can sometimes do well.

His very first attack was clumsy, but after that Wright played well enough.

He carried the ball forward where possible, generally found his teammates with passes and at one point did a wee heel flick thing with the inside of his right boot to make space for himself on the corner of the box.

As I said before but people have chosen to ignore, the double substitution swung possession in our favour big style, therefore Wright played his part.

Disagree if you want, I can't be arsed arguing.

Come on Peeve just because people disagree doesn't make this place brutal. Wouldn't be much of a forum if we all agreed with each other :wink:

I lost my stream just after the subs so didn't get to see how he played. Sounds like he did ok so I'm glad to hear it.

[Peevemor]

Come on Peeve just because people disagree doesn't make this place brutal. Wouldn't be much of a forum if we all agreed with each other :wink:

I lost my stream just after the subs so didn't get to see how he played. Sounds like he did ok so I'm glad to hear it.It is. I get the impression that "supporter" is another word that's changed meaning since I was a lad.

There are too many people who want to prove their superior knowledge by pointing out how crap we (or certain players) are at every opportunity.

Hopefully once we're all out and about again folk will lighten up a bit.

[gaz1875]

We will struggle without Gogic and Boyle, two of our best players in recent games. I think Gogic in particular will be a massive miss in the middle of the park, we'll need to pull something out the bag if we're to get to the final.

Gogic could be a bigger miss than Boyle because of his defensive qualities and energy all over the pitch. Games like today Boyle started well but faded second half we have attacking options although not as good. Gogic seems to get more energy as the game goes on I don't think we have an option to cover him.

[1van Sprou7e]

Boyle is out of the semi

Latest rule book 2020 / 2021

Accumulation of two cautionable offences in The Scottish Cup for clubs whichenter the competition after Round 2 (caution totals revert to zero prior to startof semi-final rounds
1 match automatic suspension
Effective immediately to the next match in the same Specified Cup Competition

Does this not mean he can play?

[B.H.F.C]

It is. I get the impression that "supporter" is another word that's changed meaning since I was a lad.

There are too many people who want to prove their superior knowledge by pointing out how crap we (or certain players) are at every opportunity.

Hopefully once we're all out and about again folk will lighten up a bit.

Maybe you’ll lighten up a bit rather than looking to have a pop at folk eh. Because they don’t meet your ‘supporter’ standards.

[Peevemor]

Maybe you’ll lighten up a bit rather than looking to have a pop at folk eh. Because they don’t meet your ‘supporter’ standards.Whatever.

I don't have supporter standards, just a basic understanding of the meaning of the word.

I don't expect people to blindly praise players they don't rate, but maybe a grudging acceptance that they did OK during their 20 minutes on the field might be a good start - better than putting the boot in wherever possible in any case.

[Since452]

It is. I get the impression that "supporter" is another word that's changed meaning since I was a lad.

There are too many people who want to prove their superior knowledge by pointing out how crap we (or certain players) are at every opportunity.

Hopefully once we're all out and about again folk will lighten up a bit.

Absolutely agree with this and was having this very discussion earlier with someone. "Supporters" is the wrong word these days. It should be "expectors". Folk talking about Ross at Sunderland when it went 2-2, Sunderland who have done the square root of **** all since Ross left ffs, forgetting this is the most successful season in 15/16 years for this football club. Pathetic imo. Some folk want to go to the extreme to criticise.

[malcolm]

Does this not mean he can play?

Probably not. :greengrin The rules would have been written to mean what was agreed they were to cover rather than to be a means of communication to fans. I think that it is intended they provide a clean sheet for all who are eligible to play in a semifinal.

So both a yellow in round 2 and round 3 and a yellow in the quarter final and the previous round result in suspension for next game. The difference is that the next game in the latter case is the semi. I guess the important bit of the wording is the reference to ‘immediately’ before the semi. That would mean that all cumulative disciplinary slates are cleared but that does not extend to sanctions i.e. the automatic suspension, already imposed before that point.

The rules were not written with a brief of being plainly understandable but to give force to an agreed outcome. I’d hope that I’m wrong:wink:

[1van Sprou7e]

Probably not. :greengrin The rules would have been written to mean what was agreed they were to cover rather than to be a means of communication to fans. I think that it is intended they provide a clean sheet for all who are eligible to play in a semifinal.

So both a yellow in round 2 and round 3 and a yellow in the quarter final and the previous round result in suspension for next game. The difference is that the next game in the latter case is the semi. I guess the important bit of the wording is the reference to ‘immediately’ before the semi. That would mean that all cumulative disciplinary slates are cleared but that does not extend to sanctions i.e. the automatic suspension, already imposed before that point.

The rules were not written with a brief of being plainly understandable but to give force to an agreed outcome. I’d hope that I’m wrong:wink:

Christ that's a serious blow, missing arguably our 2 most important players

[BroxburnHibee]

Absolutely agree with this and was having this very discussion earlier with someone. "Supporters" is the wrong word these days. It should be "expectors". Folk talking about Ross at Sunderland when it went 2-2, Sunderland who have done the square root of **** all since Ross left ffs, forgetting this is the most successful season in 15/16 years for this football club. Pathetic imo. Some folk want to go to the extreme to criticise.

Didn't Sunderland just win a trophy?

[B.H.F.C]

Whatever.

I don't have supporter standards, just a basic understanding of the meaning of the word.

I don't expect people to blindly praise players they don't rate, but maybe a grudging acceptance that they did OK during their 20 minutes on the field might be a good start - better than putting the boot in wherever possible in any case.

The ‘supporters’ stuff is pish.

Not putting the boot in to Wright. Just, again, was disappointed with him. Some folk are happy to debate if he was good, bad or somewhere in between which I think is fine.

But why let that stop you sticking the boot in to supporters rather than have a proper debate on what has happened on the pitch.

[B.H.F.C]

Absolutely agree with this and was having this very discussion earlier with someone. "Supporters" is the wrong word these days. It should be "expectors". Folk talking about Ross at Sunderland when it went 2-2, Sunderland who have done the square root of **** all since Ross left ffs, forgetting this is the most successful season in 15/16 years for this football club. Pathetic imo. Some folk want to go to the extreme to criticise.

More crap. Define a supporter? Someone buying a season ticket maybe?

But any criticism and they’re pathetic?

Criticism in this thread was so minimal.

[Peevemor]

The ‘supporters’ stuff is pish.

Not putting the boot in to Wright. Just, again, was disappointed with him. Some folk are happy to debate if he was good, bad or somewhere in between which I think is fine which I think is fine.

But why let that stop you sticking the boot in to supporters rather than have a proper debate on what has happened on the pitch.

I said I thought the criticism of him today was unfair. You're the one giving it the "prove it, prove it" stuff. Now you're making out that I'm the stroppy one.

Fine, crack on, I can't be bothered.

[B.H.F.C]

I said I thought the criticism of him today was unfair. You're the one giving it the "prove it, prove it" stuff. Now you're making out that I'm the stroppy one.

Fine, crack on, I can't be bothered.

Can you quote a post where I said ‘prove it’?

I’ve had a couple of beers. But don’t think I’ve said that.

[Peevemor]

Can you quote a post where I said ‘prove it’?

I’ve had a couple of beers. But don’t think I’ve said that.I apologise, that was someone else.

[K-Zazu]

We will struggle without Gogic and Boyle, two of our best players in recent games. I think Gogic in particular will be a massive miss in the middle of the park, we'll need to pull something out the bag if we're to get to the final.

We got pumped 3-0 in our last semi final and both of them were playing

[loanheadhibby]

I thought Wright looked pretty good today.
Please tell me you are joking unless you're talking about his appearance.

[Peevemor]

Please tell me you are joking unless you're talking about his appearance.Not at all.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

According to a few match reports I've seen, the Aberdeen defender Tommie Hoban was booked in both their Scottish Cup ties v Dumbarton and Livingston this season, yet there's no mention of a suspension on the SFA website and he's in today's squad. Surely if it's 2 bookings for a suspension, he should be out for today's game against Dundee United.

[Moulin Yarns]

I said I thought the criticism of him today was unfair. You're the one giving it the "prove it, prove it" stuff. Now you're making out that I'm the stroppy one.

Fine, crack on, I can't be bothered.

I think that a lot of people will only accept Wright is half decent once he comes on as a sub with 10 minutes to play and scores a hattrick.

[hibee-boys]

I think that a lot of people will only accept Wright is half decent once he comes on as a sub with 10 minutes to play and scores a hattrick.

I’ll think he’s decent when he makes a positive impact during a game, I really want the guy to succeed but his main contribution at Hibs thus far has been game show host.

[Juniper Greens]

According to a few match reports I've seen, the Aberdeen defender Tommie Hoban was booked in both their Scottish Cup ties v Dumbarton and Livingston this season, yet there's no mention of a suspension on the SFA website and he's in today's squad. Surely if it's 2 bookings for a suspension, he should be out for today's game against Dundee United.

Said this right at the start of the thread. I believe it's three bookings this season. Doesn't matter what the rule book that someone has posted a link to, I found something else, equally official that said three bookings. Cba digging it out again tho. If someone really wants to know, why not tweet the SFA or hibs?

[CapitalGreen]

I’ll think he’s decent when he makes a positive impact during a game, I really want the guy to succeed but his main contribution at Hibs thus far has been game show host.

After the introduction of Watt, McGinn was struggling to cope as he was receiving no help from Boyle on that side. Wright’s introduction helped shore up our right hand side and regain control of the match. For that reason he had a positive impact during the match. If Ross had recognised this issue earlier and brought on Wright during the 90 minutes we may have avoided having to go through extra time and penalties.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Said this right at the start of the thread. I believe it's three bookings this season. Doesn't matter what the rule book that someone has posted a link to, I found something else, equally official that said three bookings. Cba digging it out again tho. If someone really wants to know, why not tweet the SFA or hibs?

I guess we'll find out for sure this afternoon. Hoban has been an ever present for Aberdeen this season. If he plays then so can Boyle in the semi.

[McD]

It is. I get the impression that "supporter" is another word that's changed meaning since I was a lad.

There are too many people who want to prove their superior knowledge by pointing out how crap we (or certain players) are at every opportunity.

Hopefully once we're all out and about again folk will lighten up a bit.


I agree, for some people, even when we win there needs to be something to criticise and usually a player to blame or scapegoat

we won, a terrific team effort, with not a single player that I’d say played ‘badly, albeit some had a bigger influence than others

[green day]

According to a few match reports I've seen, the Aberdeen defender Tommie Hoban was booked in both their Scottish Cup ties v Dumbarton and Livingston this season, yet there's no mention of a suspension on the SFA website and he's in today's squad. Surely if it's 2 bookings for a suspension, he should be out for today's game against Dundee United.

Thats an absolutely brilliant spot :top marks :thumbsup:

You are 100% right, he was booked in both those games.

There is nothing in the pre match stuff to say he is out, indeed he did the Red TV pre match interview yesterday - which suggests that he is playing.

Magic news !!!

[Sir David Gray]

Said this right at the start of the thread. I believe it's three bookings this season. Doesn't matter what the rule book that someone has posted a link to, I found something else, equally official that said three bookings. Cba digging it out again tho. If someone really wants to know, why not tweet the SFA or hibs?

I'm not sure if this link will work but I think this might be where you saw the information about 3 bookings, if so it's from 17/18.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/1849/suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj-9sid8JjwAhVFUcAKHVjoAAwQFjABegQIAxAG&usg=AOvVaw2Se5dY5NnHFJgo8nwV3qHq&cshid=1619337314294

[green day]

I'm not sure if this link will work but I think this might be where you saw the information about 3 bookings, if so it's from 17/18.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/1849/suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj-9sid8JjwAhVFUcAKHVjoAAwQFjABegQIAxAG&usg=AOvVaw2Se5dY5NnHFJgo8nwV3qHq&cshid=1619337314294

Doesnt explain Tommie Hoban - see above

[Billy Whizz]

Doesnt explain Tommie Hoban - see above

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/7815/los39-22-april-2021.pdf

Hoban not on most up to date Scottish cup suspensions list

[Sir David Gray]

Doesnt explain Tommie Hoban - see above

Thanks I've changed my mind on this now, I think he'll be ok. Jason Holt was also booked twice and he has no outstanding suspensions showing either.

Bizarrely there doesn't seem to be any published rules for this season's Scottish Cup anywhere on the internet.

[JimBHibees]

We will struggle without Gogic and Boyle, two of our best players in recent games. I think Gogic in particular will be a massive miss in the middle of the park, we'll need to pull something out the bag if we're to get to the final.

A lot will depend on the opposition much bigger miss if Rangers less so others.

[neil7908]

Thanks I've changed my mind on this now, I think he'll be ok. Jason Holt was also booked twice and he has no outstanding suspensions showing either.

Bizarrely there doesn't seem to be any published rules for this season's Scottish Cup anywhere on the internet.

Absolutely crazy that we don't have an easy, official source of conclusive information from the SFA on this.

[Hibee Mac]

Thats brilliant news if Boyle can play, although I still think Gogic will be the biggest miss.

[JimBHibees]

Absolutely crazy that we don't have an easy, official source of conclusive information from the SFA on this.

Yep very strange even an updated clear one pager. Would be a huge boost if he is available that is for sure.

[JimBHibees]

Thanks I've changed my mind on this now, I think he'll be ok. Jason Holt was also booked twice and he has no outstanding suspensions showing either.

Bizarrely there doesn't seem to be any published rules for this season's Scottish Cup anywhere on the internet.

Wouldn't impact Holt given his team are out. Bookings only apply to the season bookings take place I think while sending offs carry over.

[flash]

Hoban is definitely playing so panic over.

[Billy Whizz]

Wouldn't impact Holt given his team are out. Bookings only apply to the season bookings take place I think while sending offs carry over.

If you are due a suspension, it carries to the next season
Gray got a booking for his cup final booking, and having been booked earlier in the competition, missed the 1st cup tie the next season

[neil7908]

Hoban is definitely playing so panic over.

Brilliant news. Gogic is a loss but Hallberg and Magennis are capable replacements.

We have no one that can give us what Boyle does though.

[Sir David Gray]

Wouldn't impact Holt given his team are out. Bookings only apply to the season bookings take place I think while sending offs carry over.

His suspension would be carried over into next season's competition.

[flash]

Brilliant news. Gogic is a loss but Hallberg and Magennis are capable replacements.

We have no one that can give us what Boyle does though.

He did the press conference for today's game.

[MWHIBBIES]

Thats brilliant news if Boyle can play, although I still think Gogic will be the biggest miss.

Depends on who we play. Dundee United, Kilmarnock, St Mirren I'm not that worried about Gogic missing. Easily better than those sides and beat them in all but 1 match (a very flukey 1-1 for United)

St Johnstone, Aberdeen, Rangers is a different story. We'd miss him big time.

[Hibi]

Thats brilliant news if Boyle can play, although I still think Gogic will be the biggest miss.

Boyle has been such a match winne

[hibbyfraelibby]

So we put Lewis at full back and use Doig as a winger. So we switch most attacks down the left side. Magennis comes in for gogic and plays central and shows what he can really do ...Sorted !!

Hallberg for Gogic and Wright for Boyle is far more likely.

Can we recall Scotty Allan once Chumpionship is over?

[Hibi]

Thats brilliant news if Boyle can play, although I still think Gogic will be the biggest miss.

Boyle has been such a match winner for us this season that he would definitely be a huge miss. But I thought Gogic was excellent yesterday, best I have seen him with the ball and his energy was massive. Game seemed to pass Newell by for large parts yesterday and to a lesser extent Irvine.

[Juniper Greens]

Scott Robertson played against us for Stranraer on 2 bookings. He got booked for a 3rd time and has a 1 game suspension for next season

[Billy Whizz]

Scott Robertson played against us for Stranraer on 2 bookings. He got booked for a 3rd time and has a 1 game suspension for next season

The system is a bit unfair on teams, who go in earlier rounds

[Since452]

Gogic and Boyle would probably be the two I'd least liked to have had suspended for the semi. Need to do the hard way I guess

[JimBHibees]

His suspension would be carried over into next season's competition.

Would it didn't realise that. :aok:

[JimBHibees]

The system is a bit unfair on teams, who go in earlier rounds

Yes not fair though in saying that most teams at that stage are unlikely to get that far though if they do they should get a bit leeway e.g one more booking

[JimBHibees]

Hallberg for Gogic and Wright for Boyle is far more likely.

Can we recall Scotty Allan once Chumpionship is over?

Scott would be Cup tied

[JimBHibees]

If you are due a suspension, it carries to the next season
Gray got a booking for his cup final booking, and having been booked earlier in the competition, missed the 1st cup tie the next season

So he did. :aok:

[Irish_Steve]

The system is a bit unfair on teams, who go in earlier rounds

Damn, that means Hearts won`t have any suspended players for next season`s competition

[tamig]

The system is a bit unfair on teams, who go in earlier rounds

I thought they got an extra game before a suspension kicked in. Three cautions if you enter before round 3 and two if you enter round 3 or later.

[green day]

Gogic and Boyle would probably be the two I'd least liked to have had suspended for the semi. Need to do the hard way I guess

Boyle isnt suspended for the semi.

The OP should delete this thread.

[Billy Whizz]

I thought they got an extra game before a suspension kicked in. Three cautions if you enter before round 3 and two if you enter round 3 or later.

Me too it’s just bizarre, that’s why I thought Boyle was suspended

[Sir David Gray]

I thought they got an extra game before a suspension kicked in. Three cautions if you enter before round 3 and two if you enter round 3 or later.

They usually do.

There was a link to the rules from 17/18 floating about earlier as proof that Boyle would be ok for the semi because it said that players who play for teams that enter in rounds 1-3 are suspended after 3 bookings and players who play for teams that enter from round 4 are suspended after 2 bookings.

However this season's competition has one less round than previous years' competitions and therefore no teams entered any later than round 3 so the reference above is irrelevant.

The only thing that makes me certain now that Boyle will be OK is that Hoban and Holt both appear to be fine after 2 bookings.

Maybe they just applied the 3 bookings rule across the board for this season although I agree it's not really fair on teams who come in at earlier rounds.

[Since452]

Boyle isnt suspended for the semi.

The OP should delete this thread.

That's good news. Couldn't be arsed reading whole thread.

[hibeejeebies]

[QUOTE=B.H.F.C;6538436]Horrendous. One opportunity to attack the full back but passed it across the pitch, backwards, to our left back. And let the defenders step up to hit the pens. It’s not the fact that he’s poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be positive.[/QUOTE

Bit harsh on the penalties thing. We want our most confident takers stepping up at that point.

[Hibbyradge]

[QUOTE=B.H.F.C;6538436]Horrendous. One opportunity to attack the full back but passed it across the pitch, backwards, to our left back. And let the defenders step up to hit the pens. It’s not the fact that he’s poor that annoys me, it’s the lack of willingness to be positive.[/QUOTE

Bit harsh on the penalties thing. We want our most confident takers stepping up at that point.

:agree:

Some players are better at taking penalties than others. For example, I'd be happy if Nesbit never takes another penalty for Hibs and he's meant to be our top striker.

Also, Porteous demanded to take one so criticising any of the other 5 players who didn't is completely unfair.

[hibbysam]

[QUOTE=hibeejeebies;6539365]

:agree:

Some players are better at taking penalties than others. For example, I'd be happy if Nesbit never takes another penalty for Hibs and he's meant to be our top striker.

Also, Porteous demanded to take one so criticising any of the other 5 players who didn't is completely unfair.

Which is mental as he was fairly solid from the spot in the early part of the season, until he missed in the semi final. Now looks like he couldn’t score one!

[scoopyboy]

Boyle isnt suspended for the semi.

The OP should delete this thread.

Do I tell you what to do?

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Hoban starts for Aberdeen. 👍

[SChibs]

Drey Wright all but confirms Boyle ain't suspended on Instagram

[FilipinoHibs]

Drey Wright all but confirms Boyle ain't suspended on Instagram

I bet he is relieved!

[hibee-boys]

I bet he is relieved!

Not as relieved as us🙈

[green day]

Do I tell you what to do?

I wasn't looking for an argument, but you know what it's like on here.

Sometimes people don't read threads properly and stories grow arms and legs.

Imo I felt it might be sensible - once it was established it was a non story - to remove it.

You do whatever you want, it's a free country.

[scoopyboy]

I wasn't looking for an argument, but you know what it's like on here.

Sometimes people don't read threads properly and stories grow arms and legs.

Imo I felt it might be sensible - once it was established it was a non story - to remove it.

You do whatever you want, it's a free country.

I put up the thread last night asking a genuine question, a thread that is now on it's fifth page.

It looks like he is ok to play but I've not seen it confirmed 100%, even better is it looks like the two bookings will be wiped so even a booking in the semi wouldn't rule him out the final.

If the admins see fit to close it then that's fine but as long as people want to post I will let it run.

If people stop posting it will die a death anyway.

[BILLYHIBS]

Martin Boyle available for the semi final

Source : HIBS Twitter cabbage and ribs

[hibee_girl]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-suspension-uncertainty-cleared-up-as-martin-boyle-and-alex-gogic-learn-scottish-cup-semi-final-fate-3214971

Boyle not suspended. Gogic is.

[Onceinawhile]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-suspension-uncertainty-cleared-up-as-martin-boyle-and-alex-gogic-learn-scottish-cup-semi-final-fate-3214971

Boyle not suspended. Gogic is.

But they've both only had two yellow cards? 😂

[Ronniekirk]

But they've both only had two yellow cards? [emoji23]

Gogic sent off so assume he has to miss next game because of that


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[Onceinawhile]

Gogic sent off so assume he has to miss next game because of that


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I know, was only joking. Just a lot of people have said you need 3 yellows to be suspended. Whereas I think gogic has only had two. Just thought it was a bit funny.

[mjhibby]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-suspension-uncertainty-cleared-up-as-martin-boyle-and-alex-gogic-learn-scottish-cup-semi-final-fate-3214971

Boyle not suspended. Gogic is.

Great news. Boyle will be essential in beating utds high press. Mind you the form Doidge is in means it’s essential he’s available. Have a good feeling about the cup now.

[Ronniekirk]

I know, was only joking. Just a lot of people have said you need 3 yellows to be suspended. Whereas I think gogic has only had two. Just thought it was a bit funny.

Ah I see [emoji4]


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