Harry Cochrane

[Currie Hibee]

Just read that he has turned down a new contract and will leave Hearts in June.

Do you think it would be worth a gamble to give him a contract? Kid had talent when he was young but was destroyed by Avril Levein.

Question is would he be worth a theoretical punt or are you better sticking with say Fraser Murray who has had a decent season with Dunfermline.

[McSwanky]

Just read that he has turned down a new contract and will leave Hearts in June.

Do you think it would be worth a gamble to give him a contract? Kid had talent when he was young but was destroyed by Avril Levein.

Question is would he be worth a theoretical punt or are you better sticking with say Fraser Murray who has had a decent season with Dunfermline.

I think we should be aiming higher than either of them. Just my opinion.

[007]

A fairly low risk punt just to annoy them.

[AugustaHibs]

**** him. Thought he was the big man after he scored vs Celtic and tried to do mcginn in the derby at Easter road. Boy is also pish, no sure I want a boy who’s no exactly excelled at montrose

[weecounty hibby]

Nope, big fanfare based in the fact he was so young but has shown nothing since to suggest he will be a top level player. On loan at Brechin or someplace like that I believe. Probably about his level. File with all the other jambo wonder kids to fail.

[davhibby]

A fairly low risk punt just to annoy them.

Ah yes, let’s sign a guy who’s not done anything of note in *checks notes* League 1 this season? That’ll show them!

If he was anywhere near close to being worth a punt at Hibs then he’d have been getting some form of game time at Hearts this season as a chance to prove he was worth a new contract.

[JohnMcM]

Just read that he has turned down a new contract and will leave Hearts in June.

Do you think it would be worth a gamble to give him a contract? Kid had talent when he was young but was destroyed by Avril Levein.

Question is would he be worth a theoretical punt or are you better sticking with say Fraser Murray who has had a decent season with Dunfermline.

Thanks but no thanks. He’s not setting the grass alight at the moment and his claim to fame is a goal against Celtic. Besides, he was bigged up by the biglies as their new saviour of all things football and huge transfer fees.

Our kids a developing out on loan anyway.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Don't see a place for him in the squad atm. He looked decent when he first came on the scene but his hip high challenge on SJM really put me off him. Like others have said he has done nothing of note in league 1 to show we should sign him. If the gorgie pinks have given him a contract to sign it would mean anyone who signs him would be due them a development fee, unlike JC or Josh Doig.

[DaveF]

He'll probably be playing non league soon enough and no doubt we will be reading an article in 10 years time where he tells his tale to BAnderson about what might have been.

[SHODAN]

I'd take a punt on him.

[Peevemor]

I wonder if he has something lined up given that he's KBed Hearts.

Apart from his shocking lunge at SJM, he did look pretty good when he broke into their team, albeit he was vastly over-hyped and over used as per usual with them.

[Pretty Boy]

I never really got the hype about him.

He was quite neat and tidy and bustled about a bit but there wasn't a lot more than that. I suppose he must have had something if he was playing 1st team football at 16 but he clearly hasn't kicked on.

It's not an area we have a real pressing need and if we did I'd want someone better than Cochrane.

[Jones28]

I wonder if he has something lined up given that he's KBed Hearts.

He must have, surely. Nobody would turn down a contract with a newly-established top flight club?

[Centre Hawf]

He would cost a development fee to Hearts and I’d rather not give them a penny for someone who hasn’t kicked on in 3 years.

[Jones28]

Also quite nice to see the McGinn to West Ham thread just below this one. The guy who tried to end JM's career is currently in League 1 and McGinn is the subject of £40m transfer. :aok:

Ironic.

[Currie Hibee]

He would cost a development fee to Hearts and I’d rather not give them a penny for someone who hasn’t kicked on in 3 years.

Very good point!!!

[Since452]

Just read that he has turned down a new contract and will leave Hearts in June.

Do you think it would be worth a gamble to give him a contract? Kid had talent when he was young but was destroyed by Avril Levein.

Question is would he be worth a theoretical punt or are you better sticking with say Fraser Murray who has had a decent season with Dunfermline.

So Barcelona will be getting him on a free?

[calumhibee1]

He'll probably be playing non league soon enough and no doubt we will be reading an article in 10 years time where he tells his tale to BAnderson about what might have been.

Yup. He’s absolutely jobbies. He’ll end up at an Edinburgh City or something soon enough, not get much game time there either and then drop down to a Spartans/Linlithgow Rose or something along those lines.

[WeeRussell]

I never really got the hype about him.

He was quite neat and tidy and bustled about a bit but there wasn't a lot more than that. I suppose he must have had something if he was playing 1st team football at 16 but he clearly hasn't kicked on.

It's not an area we have a real pressing need and if we did I'd want someone better than Cochrane.

Yep - clearly decent for his age but I didn’t think he was the best of the young ones breaking through for them at the time. If he’s not done anything of note since trying to decapitate McGinn then I’d have no interest in going near the lad.

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[CraigHibee]

He would cost a development fee to Hearts and I’d rather not give them a penny for someone who hasn’t kicked on in 3 years.

Surely £5 would be enough for the "development" fee, poor lad has hardly developed at the wongadome, needs a better club to improve

[Velma Dinkley]

He basically assaulted opponents every time he played and the referees rarely, if ever, punished him for it. Has he learned how to tackle properly yet?

[Oscar T Grouch]

Surely £5 would be enough for the "development" fee, poor lad has hardly developed at the wongadome, needs a better club to improve

As they are top rated for 'their' training facility, I think it is £60k for each year he's been at the club until he is 24? That is from memory so probably wrong!! He's been with them since 2014 so 7 X 60k is £420k, but I agree £5 is probably too much given how he's been handled.

[Dalianwanda]

I wouldnt take him at Hibs but thought he was very harshly treated by Hearts. Well when I say Hearts I mean Levein. Thrown in the deep end when he was struggling for players then turfed aside when older players returned.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think there’s talent there if he’s managed the right way. I wouldn’t be disappointed if JR decided to give him a chance here. Not too much money wasted if it didnt work out.

it won’t happen anyway.

[Michael]

I never thought he looked that impressive. Usually when a young player is going to go far in football they make an immediate impact. When Scott Brown broke though you could tell within 60 seconds he was a player.

[Kato]

I wouldnt take him at Hibs but thought he was very harshly treated by Hearts. Well when I say Hearts I mean Levein. Thrown in the deep end when he was struggling for players then turfed aside when older players returned.

That's what they do. Fill their youths heads full of rubbish about being "the best" and burn them out or get them injured playing too many games.

Hickey did well to get away asap.

[Hibee Mac]

Haha I can't believe this question is being raised, he had his day in the limelight trying to crunch McGinn, will probably be the highlight of his career

[Northernhibee]

Where we have Man Utd and the like interested in our sixteen year olds, have the likes of Josh Doig (ironically) attracting the attention of Leicester and Arsenal and have brought through players like Porteous, Hanlon, Stevenson and more who have been a regular part of our squad for a while, Hearts seem to have a track record of bringing in a young player, burning them out and then they amount to nothing (Hickey aside).

[HoboHarry]

Where we have Man Utd and the like interested in our sixteen year olds, have the likes of Josh Doig (ironically) attracting the attention of Leicester and Arsenal and have brought through players like Porteous, Hanlon, Stevenson and more who have been a regular part of our squad for a while, Hearts seem to have a track record of bringing in a young player, burning them out and then they amount to nothing (Hickey aside).
Well other than the ones like Cummings who we rescue just in time, repair them and get them back to the top of their game.......

[TelaStella]

Haha


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[JimBHibees]

Was it not claimed by the weirdos at the time he was better than McGinn.:faf::faf:

Shameful refereeing by Dallas not to send him off though think it was the only thing he kicked that night

[hibbyfraelibby]

Yup. He’s absolutely jobbies. He’ll end up at an Edinburgh City or something soon enough, not get much game time there either and then drop down to a Spartans/Linlithgow Rose or something along those lines.

I actually heard that he was City bound...

[Kato]

Was it not claimed by the weirdos at the time he was better than McGinn.:faf::faf:

Some of them claimed that tackle on McGinn was the moment of their season and that it showed "who was better".


I don't think those particular Hearts fans care much for football.

[truehibernian]

I actually heard that he was City bound...

If he's refused a contract from Hearts he won't be City bound, I'd say more likely to end up at Hamilton or similar. Found him to be an arrogant wee so and so anyway, wouldn't make it into our development side........a typical Levein over estimation of a player who ranks amongst the 'Darren Mackie is the Scottish Wayne Rooney' category for managerial hyperbole :aok:

As others have said, he'll slip down the leagues quickly.

[Wilson]

Was it not claimed by the weirdos at the time he was better than McGinn.:faf::faf:

Shameful refereeing by Dallas not to send him off though think it was the only thing he kicked that night

I happened across an article advising Leeds to go for Cochrane over McGinn. The idea being that he'd bossed McGinn in two derbies and would cost half as much! Seems ridiculous now!

[Billy Whizz]

Hearts due a development fee for him, which could scupper his chances

[CropleyWasGod]

I actually heard that he was City bound...

Brechin, Embra or the mighty Elgin?

[Since452]

I wonder just how good the lad Hickey would have been if he was at a proper club like Hibs and not that rudderless ship in Gorgie. Not often young players come to anything over there. Actually Hearts League Cup wins are more regular.

[Seveno]

Lever tried so hard to big him up in the hope that they could get big money for him. The fact that the got no interest says it all.

[HoboHarry]

Brechin, Embra or the mighty Elgin?
Here you, nae knocking ma hame toon........:greengrin

[mixumatosis]

I wouldnt take him at Hibs but thought he was very harshly treated by Hearts. Well when I say Hearts I mean Levein. Thrown in the deep end when he was struggling for players then turfed aside when older players returned.

Symptomatic of Levin's outdated view of the game. Bring them into the team and they either sink or swim. Drop them and if they can't handle it they don't have the right "character" for professional football. No awareness whatsoever that the game's changed since his career began.

I don't think he got enough affection as a child.

[Unseen work]

In fairness I did think he looked a talent when he came through.

Showed a lot of composure and quality on the ball for being 16/17.

Doesn’t seem to have kicked on at all, even out on loan. Still plenty time for him to develop physically though as he’s young.

Part of me thinks hearts just offered him a new contract on rubbish terms, knowing he’d reject it and they’d be due a development fee.

[Hibs4185]

I actually heard that he was City bound...

Edinburgh City of course

[greenlex]

He must have a club lined up or he’s taking a risk. In this financial climate the kind of clubs liable to be interested aren’t going to pay up to 6 figures on potential. Certainly not his potential. Having been in and around the first team and a couple of loan spells, even accounting for Levein arsing it up, if he was going to improve I think it would be showing now.

[Billy Whizz]

He must have a club lined up or he’s taking a risk. In this financial climate the kind of clubs liable to be interested aren’t going to pay up to 6 figures on potential. Certainly not his potential. Having been in and around the first team and a couple of loan spells, even accounting for Levein arsing it up, if he was going to improve I think it would be showing now.

If it is Edin City, think they are trying to run with a mixture and full and part timers next season
Wonder where they are getting the money from?

[truehibernian]

If it is Edin City, think they are trying to run with a mixture and full and part timers next season
Wonder where they are getting the money from?

To refuse a contract at Hearts would lead me to think he's got something lined up with a club who will match what he is on which outwith the SPFL, would leave only a few clubs who have backers Billy. The likes of Cove and Queens Park are throwing money around, maybe dropping down leagues and getting something with them. Can't see any clubs down south or abroad wanting him - his CV is really poor.

[lord bunberry]

Hearts due a development fee for him, which could scupper his chances
Are they definitely due a development fee for him? I know they’ve offered him a new contract, but if it’s on lower terms than he’s on now I don’t think a development fee applies. I can’t see him knocking back a new deal if it means other clubs would have to pay a fee to sign him. He could have something lined up down south as I don’t think the development fee applies then.

[jacomo]

He must have a club lined up or he’s taking a risk. In this financial climate the kind of clubs liable to be interested aren’t going to pay up to 6 figures on potential. Certainly not his potential. Having been in and around the first team and a couple of loan spells, even accounting for Levein arsing it up, if he was going to improve I think it would be showing now.


In that context, a development fee seems like a restraint of trade.

I’m all for protecting clubs who have invested in developing a young player, but if it’s all gone sour the club is holding something over the player by demanding a fee or that they sign a new contract.

[Bostonhibby]

Best young prospect in Craig Levein's head, media lapped it up, career now on a similar trajectory to Craig Levein's.

Could he do a job at Hibs? aye very similar to the job we'd be offering Craig Levein, mind the gap.

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[JohnMcM]

If it is Edin City, think they are trying to run with a mixture and full and part timers next season
Wonder where they are getting the money from?

People prepared to back them?

[Billy Whizz]

In that context, a development fee seems like a restraint of trade.

I’m all for protecting clubs who have invested in developing a young player, but if it’s all gone sour the club is holding something over the player by demanding a fee or that they sign a new contract.

It’s just a clubs way of protecting the investment they have spent on the player
He’s probably on a low contract at Hearts, and they probably didn’t want him, but they’ve played the game to get something for him

[truehibernian]

Best young prospect in Craig Levein's head, media lapped it up, career now on a similar trajectory to Craig Levein's.

Could he do a job at Hibs? aye very similar to the job we'd be offering Craig Levein, mind the gap.

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Can see Levein going to Dunfermline after they boost Crawford.

[PatHead]

I happened across an article advising Leeds to go for Cochrane over McGinn. The idea being that he'd bossed McGinn in two derbies and would cost half as much! Seems ridiculous now!

It was ridiculous then.

[Is It On....]

In fairness I did think he looked a talent when he came through.

Showed a lot of composure and quality on the ball for being 16/17.

Doesn’t seem to have kicked on at all, even out on loan. Still plenty time for him to develop physically though as he’s young.

Part of me thinks hearts just offered him a new contract on rubbish terms, knowing he’d reject it and they’d be due a development fee.

Apparently he has a "big time" attitude problem. Hope for his sake it doesn't ruin his career

[LancsHibs]

Nah, he’s pish

[greenlex]

Apparently he has a "big time" attitude problem. Hope for his sake it doesn't ruin his career

Cant possibly be true or he’d sign the extension. They don’t come bigger than the famous.

[Badabing]

Apart from talent, development fees etc I can’t stand the bawbag so no thanks.

[Crab apple]

No thanks. Never got the hype about him.

[Nicho87]

I wouldn’t even let him have a job at the new and improved kiosk facilities at Easter road. Over hyped, as usual with any young player at hearts.

[bigwheel]

I really liked him when he broke through at such a young age. Strong in the tackle, played with his head up ..looked the real deal . Wonder why he has not progressed?? Can only imagine he can reset himself somewhere and get his career back on track ....will be about his Mindset and choosing the right place to rebuild ..just a youngster - wish him good luck

Think he would find it tough to get game time here - wouldn’t imagine it would be the right option for him, or us .

[CL0762]

Doig & Cummings were both released from Hearts for not being good enough and look how they turned out for us.

I would take a punt on him, there’s a player in there & our environment has shown that players can develop after being thrown on the scrap heap.

[weecounty hibby]

Doig & Cummings were both released from Hearts for not being good enough and look how they turned out for us.

I would take a punt on him, there’s a player in there & our environment has shown that players can develop after being thrown on the scrap heap.

Doing was released cos they thought the boy who went to Italy was better. Cummings was released cos he got injured and they didn't want to pay the medical costs. Nothing to do with their ability. Cochineal is pish and cant get a game for Montrose

[SHODAN]

Can see Levein going to Dunfermline after they boost Crawford.

Please no.

Plus he's a Raith man anyway.

[ancient hibee]

A promising young player spoiled by being overplayed.

[Northernhibee]

A promising young player spoiled by being overplayed.

The times that Jack Ross hasn’t played Josh Doig this season are as important as when he’s been given a chance. It’s just good management to know.

[weecounty hibby]

The times that Jack Ross hasn’t played Josh Doig this season are as important as when he’s been given a chance. It’s just good management to know.

We should also remember that Doig is two years older than Cochrane was when he was first played. Those two years of maturity both physical and mental will be huge

[blackpoolhibs]

I'd prefer Tam McCourt back to wash the kit.

[McD]

The times that Jack Ross hasn’t played Josh Doig this season are as important as when he’s been given a chance. It’s just good management to know.



In addition to this, from what’s been said, it seems Lewis Stevenson works as a kind of mentor for Doig (and possibly younger left backs as well), a good player and character to learn from, solid pro, double cup winner, long served first team player, great attitude


on the other hand, hearts have had a revolving door of a first team squad, so who would Cochrane be getting a chance to watch and learn from

[hibsbollah]

I'd prefer Tam McCourt back to wash the kit.

He disnae wash his breeks that guid at hame :agree:

[EI255]

Nope, big fanfare based in the fact he was so young but has shown nothing since to suggest he will be a top level player. On loan at Brechin or someplace like that I believe. Probably about his level. File with all the other jambo wonder kids to fail.Yip.

Not even close to being good enough to be considered as a Hibs player.

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[007]

He disnae wash his breeks that guid at hame :agree:

😂

The Persil fumes are to blame.

Who was that poster? He came on here, made up a few madcap songs and then disappeared, I think.