Doig linked with Leicester move

[Winston Ingram]

According to the Sun. £1.5m apparently

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6927660/leicester-hibs-doig-man-city-arsenal-leeds/

[Since452]

They do realise he's on a four year contract? 1.5 million haha. Insulting.

[green day]

Why on earth are these kind of stories even printed at this point?

The window doesnt open for weeks...............

and, agree the poster above - we need him more than we need £1.5m at the moment

[Crunchie]

Why on earth are these kind of stories even printed at this point?

The window doesnt open for weeks...............

and, agree the poster above - we need him more than we need £1.5m at the moment
How much is Harry Cochrane worth these days :wink:

[Heckys Wheel]

Why on earth are these kind of stories even printed at this point?

The window doesnt open for weeks...............

and, agree the poster above - we need him more than we need £1.5m at the moment

Eh, it’s The Sun?

The only surprising thing about it is that it’s not Rangers he’s linked with, given we play them this week.

[GloryGlory]

Eh, it’s The Sun?

The only surprising thing about it is that it’s not Rangers he’s linked with, given we play them this week.

There's still time! "EXCLUSIVE! Rangers winning bidding war for Hibs star!" :greengrin

[bingo70]

I don’t think £1.5m with some really good add ons is as ridiculous as some are suggesting. I think we will get a bit more but it’ll be that ball park.

Fwiw I can see a lot of huge clubs being linked with him but then him going to a smaller one where he has a chance of game time. Similar to Hickey going to Bologna when there was talk of him going to Bayern and AC Milan.

He’s had a taste of first team football now, does he really want to go back to playing development football for a huge club?

[JDT]

I don’t think £1.5m with some really good add ons is as ridiculous as some are suggesting. I think we will get a bit more but it’ll be that ball park.

I think you're right to be honest. What I would like to see is him coming back to us on loan for another season so he can continue to develop. How many times have we seen young scottish players go down south and then reappear years later with it not having worked. He needs a bit more time playing week in week out first team football

[scoopyboy]

Eh, it’s The Sun?

The only surprising thing about it is that it’s not Rangers he’s linked with, given we play them this week.

The Sun are often very accurate with Hibs stories.

If he's linked with Rangers before the weekend (and it wouldn't surprise me) it is more likely to be in the Daily Record.

[Sir David Gray]

I don’t think £1.5m with some really good add ons is as ridiculous as some are suggesting. I think we will get a bit more but it’ll be that ball park.

Fwiw I can see a lot of huge clubs being linked with him but then him going to a smaller one where he has a chance of game time. Similar to Hickey going to Bologna when there was talk of him going to Bayern and AC Milan.

He’s had a taste of first team football now, does he really want to go back to playing development football for a huge club?

I don't think it's ridiculous either.

He's not even 19 yet and hasn't even reached 30 appearances for us.

History tells you that's not too far away from what young Scottish players often sell for. There's similarities there with Aaron Hickey and it's believed he was sold for roughly that amount.

We may get around £2 million for him just now but I would be surprised if it was much more than that.

[worcesterhibby]

I don't think it's ridiculous either.

He's not even 19 yet and hasn't even reached 30 appearances for us.

History tells you that's not too far away from what young Scottish players often sell for. There's similarities there with Aaron Hickey and it's believed he was sold for roughly that amount.

We may get around £2 million for him just now but I would be surprised if it was much more than that.

perhaps, but recent history would suggest that we would be unlikely to be interested in selling at that price. He has a full season of games behind him, and every chance of a decent amount of European football ahead of him. Hibs are far more likely to turn down offers for him at the end of the season and in a years time, if he is still improving and has successfully played European football, he’ll be worth 4-6m. Hibs have no reason to sell at all.

[bingo70]

I don't think it's ridiculous either.

He's not even 19 yet and hasn't even reached 30 appearances for us.

History tells you that's not too far away from what young Scottish players often sell for. There's similarities there with Aaron Hickey and it's believed he was sold for roughly that amount.

We may get around £2 million for him just now but I would be surprised if it was much more than that.

He’s also not played in front of any fans yet.

First of all, has that maybe helped him relax? How will he cope in front of thousands of fans? Might skoosh it but the pressure could get to him, nobody knows yet.

Secondly, he’s just had a season playing in front of no fans, I’m sure now he’s got a taste of first team football he’ll be desperate to play in front of big crowds next season. Joining a Leicester or Man City I’d say he’s got no chance.

In a completely random made up guess I could see him going to someone like Norwich, Swansea, West Brom...... someone around that sort of level where he’d get a good pay rise, high profile but also have a chance if first team football.

[FilipinoHibs]

Think he needs another couple of seasons with us. Seems to have his head screwed on and won't move yet. Very young to be be moving to another country and culture.

[tamig]

Think he needs another couple of seasons with us. Seems to have his head screwed on and won't move yet. Very young to be be moving to another country and culture.

Another culture is maybe stretching it a bit, no? 😀

[bingo70]

Think he needs another couple of seasons with us. Seems to have his head screwed on and won't move yet. Very young to be be moving to another country and culture.

He may also get one opportunity at getting a move like this. You never know what’s round the corner.

[Jones28]

He’d be better served staying with us for a couple of years and moving on after 60+ games, as would we.

[bod]

To soon to go IMO ,maybe the end of next season if he continues to go the way he has so far

[Stuart93]

Quite surprised some on here would accept £1.5m when the lads just signed a new contract. That would be mental.

I’ve said this repeatedly but we need to start overvaluing our assets because teams down south will pay it.

[superfurryhibby]

He may also get one opportunity at getting a move like this. You never know what’s round the corner.

Really?

I suspect in the future he will have plenty of opportunities for a move like this one, except they will be real opportunities, rather than just daft paper talk several months before the transfer window opens.

Restricting my take on Doig to reality, I predict he won’t be going anywhere, especially not for £1.5 million. He’s going to be at Hibs for at least another season.

[danhibees1875]

Would we get enough from Doig, Nisbet, and Porteous to fill in a corner or 2? :dunno:

[Brightside]

One more season would be great. But he has everything that top clubs are looking for right now.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Why on earth are these kind of stories even printed at this point?

The window doesnt open for weeks...............

and, agree the poster above - we need him more than we need £1.5m at the moment

Formulaic BS. And our next opponents are...

[Northernhibee]

Think we should be saying to any potential suitors that the minimum sell on fee we'll accept is 25% of all future transfer revenue and then open a bidding war for the fee after that.

He's a talented laddie and is going to go a long way in the game, if he is going to leave then Leicester (with a potential loan back to us next season) would be a great move. A really good, well run team.

[PatHead]

I don't think it's ridiculous either.

He's not even 19 yet and hasn't even reached 30 appearances for us.

History tells you that's not too far away from what young Scottish players often sell for. There's similarities there with Aaron Hickey and it's believed he was sold for roughly that amount.

We may get around £2 million for him just now but I would be surprised if it was much more than that.

Was Hickey not in the final year of his contract?

Doug has much longer left and we should be holding out for much more. British players will demand a premium now with work permits required following Brexit. A lot of these clubs are signing potential rather than the finished article. Physically he fits the bill as well.

I think we should hold out for a lot more with add ons.

[MWHIBBIES]

Why on earth are these kind of stories even printed at this point?

The window doesnt open for weeks...............

and, agree the poster above - we need him more than we need £1.5m at the moment
Window does not matter. Its a registration window. He could sign for them to tomorrow but he'd remain at hibs until they could register him in summer.

[Since452]

I don't think it's ridiculous either.

He's not even 19 yet and hasn't even reached 30 appearances for us.

History tells you that's not too far away from what young Scottish players often sell for. There's similarities there with Aaron Hickey and it's believed he was sold for roughly that amount.

We may get around £2 million for him just now but I would be surprised if it was much more than that.

He's our first choice left back at 18. The boy is a major talent. We shouldn't be accepting 1.5 million from an EPL club. Especially when he has four years left on his contract. I expect us to sell him but considering we just turned down 3 million for Nisbet the bar has been set. There should also be a huge add on of future transfers. Look at how Andy Robertson and Tierney have flourished down there. Hibs should be using those examples.

[rossevenil]

Looks like the Premiership clubs are all looking to the Scottish market for their own Tierney or Robertson!

[Greencore]

1.5m 😂😂😂😂

[jacomo]

And so it begins. A transfer rumour about one of our players makes the papers and Hibs fans queue up to finalise the deal.

Let the lad play. He’s just starting out.

We all know by now that Hibs is a good place for young players to develop, and if they don’t rush it they can earn a very good move.

I hope and expect Josh to be our player next season.

[H18 SFR]

He's our first choice left back at 18. The boy is a major talent. We shouldn't be accepting 1.5 million from an EPL club. Especially when he has four years left on his contract. I expect us to sell him but considering we just turned down 3 million for Nisbet the bar has been set. There should also be a huge add on of future transfers. Look at how Andy Robertson and Tierney have flourished down there. Hibs should be using those examples.

I still think we missed a huge opportunity to get £3m for Nisbet.

[MWHIBBIES]

I still think we missed a huge opportunity to get £3m for Nisbet.

If we or the old firm win the cup, his goals will have earned us that anyway.

[Since452]

I have the upmost trust and confidence in the club. If the deal isn't worth it to Hibs, Hibs wont sell. They have proved that time and again. More relaxed about outgoing transfers than I've ever been. We're in good hands. Doesn't matter what any media source says.

[matty_f]

John and I were talking about this (not the bid specifically. but Doig and others moving on) and this kind of move is exactly what Hibs' model is at the moment. Whether £1.5m is the point we'd want to sell is another story, but as Bingo said £1.5m with good add-ons is likely to be a very lucrative sale for us long term, given Doig's age.

The benefit of selling McGinn and him doing so well at Villa is that it gives us and Scottish football some credibility (see also Tierney, Robertson and Van Dijk etc) so English clubs with all their money can have some confidence in spending it with us.

For Hibs, we have seen that we are prepared to spend on sellable talent - Nisbet and Magennis being two recent examples, so when they move on (along with Porteous and Doig) we start the process again, but from a better starting point (i.e. instead of finding a £250k striker and selling for £3m, we can spend £500k on a striker and sell for £5m (for example)).

This improves the standard of our squad, gives us more chance of tangible success (cup runs, league placings and European football) and if you get that process right over a number of seasons you're soon in a position where we are breaking our own highest transfer records both for spend and receipt.

I have said this before, and it's why I am so keen for HSL to really ignite, but we have moved from a board who were cautiously ambitious and were happy to spend a pound less than we earned as a sustainable model, to an owner who is a little more aggressively ambitious and who will (again within controlled budgets) speculate on players knowing that there's a re-sale market there. That along with Gordon's plans to drive income into the club from other avenues, means that if we get it right, then we are staring into some spectacularly good years as Hibs fans.

The opportunity is right in front of us just now, if we secure third and things go our way with the cup (with either us or Rangers or Celtic winning it) then we go into next season with guaranteed European money, potential sale income in the multi-millions, and significant prize money for our league placing. We'll have the opportunity then to get better sponsorship deals etc and so we are uniquely placed (amongst the non-Glasgow sides) to emerge from COVID in really good financial health.

The competitive advantage that could give us for years to come cannot be understated - we go into a position where we should be favourites for third place and more Euro income next season, again this widens the gap financially on the teams around us, and could (with a kind wind) really cement us as the third biggest/most successful side in Scotland for a generation to come.

[JimBHibees]

Was Hickey not in the final year of his contract?

Doug has much longer left and we should be holding out for much more. British players will demand a premium now with work permits required following Brexit. A lot of these clubs are signing potential rather than the finished article. Physically he fits the bill as well.

I think we should hold out for a lot more with add ons.

Nail on the head.

[Steve20]

Media linking are players because we're playing Rangers or Celtic is one of these myths that has grown over the years. If nothing else, it would serve no purpose, as there's no way a player is so weak that he'd let being linked in a newspaper to Leicester affect his performance in a Hibs v Rangers game.

[JimBHibees]

John and I were talking about this (not the bid specifically. but Doig and others moving on) and this kind of move is exactly what Hibs' model is at the moment. Whether £1.5m is the point we'd want to sell is another story, but as Bingo said £1.5m with good add-ons is likely to be a very lucrative sale for us long term, given Doig's age.

The benefit of selling McGinn and him doing so well at Villa is that it gives us and Scottish football some credibility (see also Tierney, Robertson and Van Dijk etc) so English clubs with all their money can have some confidence in spending it with us.

For Hibs, we have seen that we are prepared to spend on sellable talent - Nisbet and Magennis being two recent examples, so when they move on (along with Porteous and Doig) we start the process again, but from a better starting point (i.e. instead of finding a £250k striker and selling for £3m, we can spend £500k on a striker and sell for £5m (for example)).

This improves the standard of our squad, gives us more chance of tangible success (cup runs, league placings and European football) and if you get that process right over a number of seasons you're soon in a position where we are breaking our own highest transfer records both for spend and receipt.

I have said this before, and it's why I am so keen for HSL to really ignite, but we have moved from a board who were cautiously ambitious and were happy to spend a pound less than we earned as a sustainable model, to an owner who is a little more aggressively ambitious and who will (again within controlled budgets) speculate on players knowing that there's a re-sale market there. That along with Gordon's plans to drive income into the club from other avenues, means that if we get it right, then we are staring into some spectacularly good years as Hibs fans.

The opportunity is right in front of us just now, if we secure third and things go our way with the cup (with either us or Rangers or Celtic winning it) then we go into next season with guaranteed European money, potential sale income in the multi-millions, and significant prize money for our league placing. We'll have the opportunity then to get better sponsorship deals etc and so we are uniquely placed (amongst the non-Glasgow sides) to emerge from COVID in really good financial health.

The competitive advantage that could give us for years to come cannot be understated - we go into a position where we should be favourites for third place and more Euro income next season, again this widens the gap financially on the teams around us, and could (with a kind wind) really cement us as the third biggest/most successful side in Scotland for a generation to come.

Very accurate analysis of where we are and emphasises the opportunity we now have to finish the season strongly.

[scoopyboy]

I still think we missed a huge opportunity to get £3m for Nisbet.

It wasn't anywhere near £3million.

Much less with add-ons like Birmingham winning the Premier League and Champions League.

[hibsforeurope]

Rodgers must only think £1.5m is what all our players are worth. you'd have thought he'd learnt his lesson missing out on SJM!

[Northernhibee]

John and I were talking about this (not the bid specifically. but Doig and others moving on) and this kind of move is exactly what Hibs' model is at the moment. Whether £1.5m is the point we'd want to sell is another story, but as Bingo said £1.5m with good add-ons is likely to be a very lucrative sale for us long term, given Doig's age.

The benefit of selling McGinn and him doing so well at Villa is that it gives us and Scottish football some credibility (see also Tierney, Robertson and Van Dijk etc) so English clubs with all their money can have some confidence in spending it with us.

For Hibs, we have seen that we are prepared to spend on sellable talent - Nisbet and Magennis being two recent examples, so when they move on (along with Porteous and Doig) we start the process again, but from a better starting point (i.e. instead of finding a £250k striker and selling for £3m, we can spend £500k on a striker and sell for £5m (for example)).

This improves the standard of our squad, gives us more chance of tangible success (cup runs, league placings and European football) and if you get that process right over a number of seasons you're soon in a position where we are breaking our own highest transfer records both for spend and receipt.

I have said this before, and it's why I am so keen for HSL to really ignite, but we have moved from a board who were cautiously ambitious and were happy to spend a pound less than we earned as a sustainable model, to an owner who is a little more aggressively ambitious and who will (again within controlled budgets) speculate on players knowing that there's a re-sale market there. That along with Gordon's plans to drive income into the club from other avenues, means that if we get it right, then we are staring into some spectacularly good years as Hibs fans.

The opportunity is right in front of us just now, if we secure third and things go our way with the cup (with either us or Rangers or Celtic winning it) then we go into next season with guaranteed European money, potential sale income in the multi-millions, and significant prize money for our league placing. We'll have the opportunity then to get better sponsorship deals etc and so we are uniquely placed (amongst the non-Glasgow sides) to emerge from COVID in really good financial health.

The competitive advantage that could give us for years to come cannot be understated - we go into a position where we should be favourites for third place and more Euro income next season, again this widens the gap financially on the teams around us, and could (with a kind wind) really cement us as the third biggest/most successful side in Scotland for a generation to come.


I don't think it just breeds confidence in clubs looking to purchase players from us but also confidence in young talents who want to make sure that they're taking the right step in their career.

Just now if you had Hearts, Aberdeen and Hibs in for you, there's a clear choice as to who you're most likely to progress your career with. I wonder if the lad McRorie is regretting picking Aberdeen now they look like a terrible team.

[weecounty hibby]

The more teams interested the better. Arsenal, Man City also rumoured to be watching him. Good end to the season and scoring the winner and MOTM performance in the cup final should see a bidding war!! Alternatively he stays for another couple of seasons and we keep a very good player

[jacomo]

John and I were talking about this (not the bid specifically. but Doig and others moving on) and this kind of move is exactly what Hibs' model is at the moment. Whether £1.5m is the point we'd want to sell is another story, but as Bingo said £1.5m with good add-ons is likely to be a very lucrative sale for us long term, given Doig's age.

The benefit of selling McGinn and him doing so well at Villa is that it gives us and Scottish football some credibility (see also Tierney, Robertson and Van Dijk etc) so English clubs with all their money can have some confidence in spending it with us.

For Hibs, we have seen that we are prepared to spend on sellable talent - Nisbet and Magennis being two recent examples, so when they move on (along with Porteous and Doig) we start the process again, but from a better starting point (i.e. instead of finding a £250k striker and selling for £3m, we can spend £500k on a striker and sell for £5m (for example)).

This improves the standard of our squad, gives us more chance of tangible success (cup runs, league placings and European football) and if you get that process right over a number of seasons you're soon in a position where we are breaking our own highest transfer records both for spend and receipt.

I have said this before, and it's why I am so keen for HSL to really ignite, but we have moved from a board who were cautiously ambitious and were happy to spend a pound less than we earned as a sustainable model, to an owner who is a little more aggressively ambitious and who will (again within controlled budgets) speculate on players knowing that there's a re-sale market there. That along with Gordon's plans to drive income into the club from other avenues, means that if we get it right, then we are staring into some spectacularly good years as Hibs fans.

The opportunity is right in front of us just now, if we secure third and things go our way with the cup (with either us or Rangers or Celtic winning it) then we go into next season with guaranteed European money, potential sale income in the multi-millions, and significant prize money for our league placing. We'll have the opportunity then to get better sponsorship deals etc and so we are uniquely placed (amongst the non-Glasgow sides) to emerge from COVID in really good financial health.

The competitive advantage that could give us for years to come cannot be understated - we go into a position where we should be favourites for third place and more Euro income next season, again this widens the gap financially on the teams around us, and could (with a kind wind) really cement us as the third biggest/most successful side in Scotland for a generation to come.


SJM leaving left a massive SJM-shaped hole in our midfield, and arguably it’s taken us until this season to get the balance right again.

I am not saying we shouldn’t have done the deal - it was obviously right at the time - but he had been here for 3 seasons at that point.

Nisbet, Magennis and Doig are in their first season. Why the rush to sell?

The most important part of the equation is putting a good Hibs team on the park - that requires consistency and players who are committed to us.

[Hibbyradge]

He's just signed a contract keeping him here until 2025.

Are we desperate for £1.5m? Is Foig likely to be worth a lot less than that in a couple or 3 years?

I think the answer is no to both of those questions so if that's the case, there's absolutely no reason to sell him unless it was for a collosal sum with huge add one.

Someone above said that it was a myth that the papers ran these stories to unsettle players before games against Rantic. Myth or not, it is a remarkably regular coincidence.

[Stanton Spence]

Media linking are players because we're playing Rangers or Celtic is one of these myths that has grown over the years. If nothing else, it would serve no purpose, as there's no way a player is so weak that he'd let being linked in a newspaper to Leicester affect his performance in a Hibs v Rangers game.Spot on Steve, I can't actually believe that there's folk out there who truly believe that this story has just been released by the press for no other reason than to put one of our players off their game because we are playing one of the old firm. The Rangers have already won the league anyway it's really bizarre

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[J-C]

Doig is a young lad who had a good season in Div2 at Queens Park and has developed enough to be 1st pick for us and all by the age of 18, £1.5M with a good add on to a big club is exactly what will be expected and we'll probably take it, if this had been his 2nd season as our number 1 LB then we'd be looking at nearer £3m.

[EdinMike]

So many spelling mistakes and auto corrects, anyway as everyone is saying I don’t think we’ll be biting at £1.5m for Doig anytime soon.

[660]

I don’t understand why people think Hibs players are worth more than any offer we would actually get. 1.5m is probably about right but I’m not sure we’d sell at the moment

[Centre Hawf]

£1.5m to £2.5m is about the range we'll get, depending on the add-ons. I have a feeling this will be the Hickey situation again this summer and he'll be away but not without a bit of a frenzy between about 4/5 big name clubs.

[spike220]

Another culture is maybe stretching it a bit, no? 😀

I can assure you that England is a very very different culture to Scotland!

[FilipinoHibs]

Another culture is maybe stretching it a bit, no? 😀

Have you ever been to Leicester😳?

[EI255]

Why do our players always seem to have a value of around £1-£1.5m, according to red top journalists?

Doig is not worth that. He is worth a lot more. Find some of their valuation "theories" staggering at times.

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[scoopyboy]

I don’t understand why people think Hibs players are worth more than any offer we would actually get. 1.5m is probably about right but I’m not sure we’d sell at the moment

You are possibly right about current value but you would have to pay a lot more as the player has enormous potential.

A 30 year old you would sell at the going rate but not an 18 year old that has the ability to go far in the game.

I don't want to sell him for a while yet but if we had to sell right now I would be looking for double what is being quoted.

He has a good physique already and that will get better, he is ideally suited to succeed in the English game.

[EI255]

Eh, it’s The Sun?

The only surprising thing about it is that it’s not Rangers he’s linked with, given we play them this week.Serious question, does anyone still buy this rag?

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[FilipinoHibs]

He may also get one opportunity at getting a move like this. You never know what’s round the corner.

Yes if he got £10k a week for four years it would be life changing. But £2 million minus taxes to last till the end of out life when you are 22 if things do not work out is not that much.

[scoopyboy]

Serious question, does anyone still buy this rag?

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I buy it on a Sunday if Hibs win.

Decent football section with good stats and David Provan's page has comic value.

[The Spaceman]

£80m transfer fee received for the donkey that is Harry Maguire. They can cough up an extra few million for Josh Doig for sure. £1.5m is laughable given he has been on fire, has all the attributes to be a top players and has four years left with us. Jog on Brendan.

[Since452]

£1.5m to £2.5m is about the range we'll get, depending on the add-ons. I have a feeling this will be the Hickey situation again this summer and he'll be away but not without a bit of a frenzy between about 4/5 big name clubs.

Was Hickey not approaching the end of his contract?

[lord bunberry]

There’s no way we should be selling Doig for that money. People may be correct that his value right now is £1.5m based on what he’s achieved so far, but that’s an extremely short sighted view. If he continues to progress at the rate he has been his value will be double that this time next year. He’s just signed a new contract and we’ve shown we value holding on to our players if our valuation isn’t met. If someone wants to make an offer we couldn’t refuse, then fair enough, but right now the value is in keeping him here and letting him develop. There’s risk involved for us, but it’s worth it imo.

[WhileTheChief..]

No chance he’s playing in the EPL next season.

I think he’ll be with us for at least next season and probably the one after.

We’re in no hurry to sell and there has been nothing to suggest that he wants anything other than to progress at Hibs.

[allezsauzee]

He's under contract until 2025, we should just come out and put a £10 million price tag on him and say he's going nowhere unless that valuation is met in an upfront payment. I'm sure the interest will disappear once those English clubs realise they are not getting him on the cheap.

[Centre Hawf]

Was Hickey not approaching the end of his contract?

I think his deal was up at the end of this season but due to his age I think Hearts were always going to get something for him regardless of that.

[bingo70]

He's under contract until 2025, we should just come out and put a £10 million price tag on him and say he's going nowhere unless that valuation is met in an upfront payment. I'm sure the interest will disappear once those English clubs realise they are not getting him on the cheap.

Player will be delighted with that and would do loads to encourage more young players to sign long term deals I’m sure.

[H18 SFR]

He's under contract until 2025, we should just come out and put a £10 million price tag on him and say he's going nowhere unless that valuation is met in an upfront payment. I'm sure the interest will disappear once those English clubs realise they are not getting him on the cheap.

That would completely negate our ability to sign promising youngsters when they have other options.

We need to sell our strategy, our model of player development, in-turn developing their careers from the earliest possible moment.

We’d be running a bulldozer through our strategy.

[Argylehibby]

Why on earth are these kind of stories even printed at this point?

The window doesnt open for weeks...............

and, agree the poster above - we need him more than we need £1.5m at the moment

Who do we play at the weekend? In time honoured tradition Scottish media will look to unsettle the opposition regardless of how meaningless the game is to them winning the league.

[green day]

Window does not matter. Its a registration window. He could sign for them to tomorrow but he'd remain at hibs until they could register him in summer.

Eh?

[gbhibby]

How much did Celtic get for Kieran Tierney? How much did Rangers get for Alan Hutton?
At his age Doig is as good if not better than both of these players at the same age. If he stays with us for two years clubs will be queuing up with much better offers.
He reminds me so much of John Brownlie at that age and is on a par with him. Some of his delivery into the box is outstanding.
If we get a run in Europe next year he will learn a lot and only improve. Clubs in England have paid £10m to £20m for 18 and 19 years old players.
Don't make the mistake Hearts made with Hickey, who is a quality player IMHO.

[Since452]

You aren't first choice left back at the team sitting 3rd in the Scottish Premiership at 18 years old unless you are a very good player. He's done exceptionally well.

[superfurryhibby]

Doig has a lot to learn and Hibs is the best place for him to do just that. There’s clearly a lot of potential there, but he’s nowhere close to being the player we would all like him to become.

Look at Porteous. When he broke through there was a lot of us on here saying how good he was/ would become. Three seasons in and he’s maybe not quite the player some of our more optimistic posters thought he was?

SJM was ahead of Doig in years and achievements when he joined Hibs. He progressed here and earneda big money move, after three seasons.

Doig is in the same category for me. Good breakthrough season, but a long, long way to go. It’s a steep learning curve and he’s established himself as a first team player, an excellent achievement. However, he needs to consolidate that and improve his all round game before even considering leaving Hibs.

[Vini1875]

Hopefully he is being advised that further game time will see his development improve and that another season would mean it is more likely that when he does move he will be able to command a starting berth at Leicester or wherever he ends up. Also the option of a European campaign will do his prospects no harm either. I hope we hold onto him for at least one more season.

[scoopyboy]

Eh?

He's right.

For example Scott Brown signing for Celtic was announced well before the transfer window opened.

Not a pre contract but an actual transfer. Played against Celtic in his last game and scored the winner at Easter Road.

Was registered first day of the transfer window.

[bingo70]

Doig has a lot to learn and Hibs is the best place for him to do just that. There’s clearly a lot of potential there, but he’s nowhere close to being the player we would all like him to become.

Look at Porteous. When he broke through there was a lot of us on here saying how good he was/ would become. Three seasons in and he’s maybe not quite the player some of our more optimistic posters thought he was?

SJM was ahead of Doig in years and achievements when he joined Hibs. He progressed here and earneda big money move, after three seasons.

Doig is in the same category for me. Good breakthrough season, but a long, long way to go. It’s a steep learning curve and he’s established himself as a first team player, an excellent achievement. However, he needs to consolidate that and improve his all round game before even considering leaving Hibs.

Your first two paragraphs are almost a bit contradictory.

I don’t think Porteous is a good example FWIW, however to run with that, does that not just show that players don’t alway fulfil their potential and there’s an element of having to take good offers for players when they come.

The same very much applies to the player. If he gets the chance of a big move he 100% needs to take it. His form could dip, he could get injured, we could change manager and not get on with the new one

The idea that if he stays at Hibs he will always progress how he has done doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny. If you’re the player and you get the chance of joining a huge club, there’s absolutely. I question you need to take it.

[superfurryhibby]

Your first two paragraphs are almost a bit contradictory.

I don’t think Porteous is a good example FWIW, however to run with that, does that not just show that players don’t alway fulfil their potential and there’s an element of having to take good offers for players when they come.

The same very much applies to the player. If he gets the chance of a big move he 100% needs to take it. His form could dip, he could get injured, we could change manager and not get on with the new one

The idea that if he stays at Hibs he will always progress how he has done doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny. If you’re the player and you get the chance of joining a huge club, there’s absolutely. I question you need to take it.


No, not contradictory I don’t think.

It’s not all about what the player wants either. I wouldn’t be too desperate to sell of our assets and hope Hibs have more ambition for the club than you.

[green day]

He's right.

For example Scott Brown signing for Celtic was announced well before the transfer window opened.

Not a pre contract but an actual transfer. Played against Celtic in his last game and scored the winner at Easter Road.

Was registered first day of the transfer window.

Brown had handed in and retracted a transfer request - it was known he was leaving, and there was clearly horse trading between Hibs / Celtic / Rangers and Browns agent.

IIRC he finally agreed to join Celtic about a week before that final match when he scored against them.

When the window opened, he signed a contract and was registered - 16th May to be exact.

So, while a player and club can desire a move, they can not sign for another club til the window opens unless its a PCA and that wont apply to Doig.

[Northernhibee]

No, not contradictory I don’t think.

It’s not all about what the player wants either. I wouldn’t be too desperate to sell of our assets and hope Hibs have more ambition for the club than you.

Needlessly harsh statement. There are going to be a lot of clubs desperate to sell this summer, and if we got Alan Campbell, Lawrence Shankland and Stephen O'Donnell for the sale of one player for example then that would strengthen us in three areas for losing a player in a position we're already well covered in.

Selling players doesn't show a lack of ambition if it's reinvested very well.

[Stick]

I was under the impression that a player could only sign a pre contract in the last year of his contract, is that still the case? If we accepted £1.5m for him then surely we wouldn’t be able to buy another player with the same potential without spending a large chunk of that money. Better keep and enjoy him for a while.

[scoopyboy]

Brown had handed in and retracted a transfer request - it was known he was leaving, and there was clearly horse trading between Hibs / Celtic / Rangers and Browns agent.

IIRC he finally agreed to join Celtic about a week before that final match when he scored against them.

When the window opened, he signed a contract and was registered - 16th May to be exact.

So, while a player and club can desire a move, they can not sign for another club til the window opens unless its a PCA and that wont apply to Doig.

Not how I remember it.

Window opens on June 1st for example.

I could well be wrong but I thought he signed a few weeks before the Celtic game.

[MWHIBBIES]

Brown had handed in and retracted a transfer request - it was known he was leaving, and there was clearly horse trading between Hibs / Celtic / Rangers and Browns agent.

IIRC he finally agreed to join Celtic about a week before that final match when he scored against them.

When the window opened, he signed a contract and was registered - 16th May to be exact.

So, while a player and club can desire a move, they can not sign for another club til the window opens unless its a PCA and that wont apply to Doig.

They definitely can. Jamie Murphy signed a permanent deal with Hibs 6 months ago, a year before his deal ended. That's a pre arranged transfer.

Transfer window is completely made up. Hibs could sell Doig tomorrow. He would just join Leicester when the window opened.

[Bangkok Hibby]

Serious question, does anyone still buy this rag?

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[superfurryhibby]

Needlessly harsh statement. There are going to be a lot of clubs desperate to sell this summer, and if we got Alan Campbell, Lawrence Shankland and Stephen O'Donnell for the sale of one player for example then that would strengthen us in three areas for losing a player in a position we're already well covered in.

Selling players doesn't show a lack of ambition if it's reinvested very well.

Reinvesting is fine, reinvesting very well has a huge proviso attached to it. We've been here before and seen that reinvestment either didn't happen or didn't work. Anyway, I doubt very much whether the sale of Doig at the fee mentioned would cover transfer fees/ wages for the three you mention and we would still need a left back.

I'll stick with what we have and see if we can develop a decent young talent into a much bigger asset, whilst the club as a whole takes advantage of having a good manager and strong squad of players. Selling at the first sniff of cash wouldn't exactly be sending out the right message for me.

[green day]

They definitely can. Jamie Murphy signed a permanent deal with Hibs 6 months ago, a year before his deal ended. That's a pre arranged transfer.

Transfer window is completely made up. Hibs could sell Doig tomorrow. He would just join Leicester when the window opened.

Doig cant sign a contract with Leicester because the transfer window is closed and he isnt in the final few months of his contract.

What are you suggesting, Leicester would just fire £1.5m to Hibs tomorrow when he (a) cant legally sign for them and (b) cant sign a PCA ??

If your premise is true, why are we not hearing daily news updates about these transfers in the (very wealthy) EPL, and why is there such a flap about TDD twice a year if its all made up?

Murphy signed for Hibs on a one season loan during the last summer window - with an obligation to transfer his registration permanently to Hibs for another year on the expiration of his Rangers deal at the end of this season.

We can do this for as long as you want.

[nonshinyfinish]

Doig cant sign a contract with Leicester because the transfer window is closed and he isnt in the final few months of his contract.

What are you suggesting, Leicester would just fire £1.5m to Hibs tomorrow when he (a) cant legally sign for them and (b) cant sign a PCA ??

If your premise is true, why are we not hearing daily news updates about these transfers in the (very wealthy) EPL, and why is there such a flap about TDD twice a year if its all made up?

Murphy signed for Hibs on a one season loan during the last summer window - with an obligation to transfer his registration permanently to Hibs for another year on the expiration of his Rangers deal at the end of this season.

We can do this for as long as you want.

I don't think you're right. There is nothing stopping the clubs agreeing a fee outside the transfer window, and (with the selling club's permission) nothing stopping the player/their agent agreeing terms and signing a contract (presumably dated to start in the future). The thing that cannot happen outside the window is transfer of registration.

Pre-contract is a special case where the caveat about having the permission of the player's current club before talking to them no longer applies. But the situation regarding registration is no different.

[Michael]

Do people think recruitment teams are just twiddling their thumbs when the window is shut?

There could easily be truth to this story. Loads of clubs would want to sign Doig.

[PatHead]

Not how I remember it.

Window opens on June 1st for example.

I could well be wrong but I thought he signed a few weeks before the Celtic game.

My memory was the smart money was on him going to Rangers. I remember Rangers supporters singing his name as they thought he was one of their own.

Shortly after he signed for Celtic.

May have got that totally wrong though.

[Northernhibee]

Reinvesting is fine, reinvesting very well has a huge proviso attached to it. We've been here before and seen that reinvestment either didn't happen or didn't work. Anyway, I doubt very much whether the sale of Doig at the fee mentioned would cover transfer fees/ wages for the three you mention and we would still need a left back.

I'll stick with what we have and see if we can develop a decent young talent into a much bigger asset, whilst the club as a whole takes advantage of having a good manager and strong squad of players. Selling at the first sniff of cash wouldn't exactly be sending out the right message for me.

I disagree that our last batch of proper reinvesting didn't work - it just ended up being a bit delayed in when it worked.

Just now Aberdeen have a stadium that either needs a lot of work or a new stadium altogether, Hearts are £20m into a new stand and markedly inferior training facilities. We have HTC, we have the new East Stand. The problems came from not investing enough in the team - Petrie looked after every penny to the detriment of the first team in the end. When we won the Scottish cup, Lennon blew a lot of it on absolute dross like Big Dave, Slivka and the like.

With no immediate infrastructure work, a reasonable recent record in scouting and excellent training facilities, we're miles ahead in what we can do with player sales compared to our rivals, even with us all feeling the effects of the pandemic.

Player sales can be a good thing - as long as you have enough depth in that position (and with Stevenson and Mackie we do), and the scouting of new talent to bring in with that money is good (and we've really been the best we have been in years at that just now).

Not desperate to see Doig go, but would also be excited to see where we could propel ourselves with a couple of million in our pockets.

I think it's because we've not seen enough reinvestment in the first team in recent years that we've

[scoopyboy]

My memory was the smart money was on him going to Rangers. I remember Rangers supporters singing his name as they thought he was one of their own.

Shortly after he signed for Celtic.

May have got that totally wrong though.

No you have that right, I can remember Rangers fans singing about signing him.

I for one thought he was going to Ibrox after hearing the stories that he was from a village in Fife that was a Rangers stronghold.

[green day]

My memory was the smart money was on him going to Rangers. I remember Rangers supporters singing his name as they thought he was one of their own.

Shortly after he signed for Celtic.

May have got that totally wrong though.

No, you are 100% right.

His agent was - as has been mentioned above - playing both sides behind the scenes and it emerged just before the end of the season that he had decided to move to Celtic - which was a major surprise.

For Hibs it was irrelevant, we had a specific fee decided (and had clearly told the agent) and as long as it was met we were not fussed who paid it.

[chippy]

No, you are 100% right.

His agent was - as has been mentioned above - playing both sides behind the scenes and it emerged just before the end of the season that he had decided to move to Celtic - which was a major surprise.

For Hibs it was irrelevant, we had a specific fee decided (and had clearly told the agent) and as long as it was met we were not fussed who paid it.

How much will Josh and Porto be worth if we get 3rd spit and/or win the cup. Play 8-10 games in Europe by Xmas ? I think unless the offer is nearer 2.5mill , Ron might well take the chance on keeping them all for another season. Why wouldn’t Josh, Porto, Nisbet , Irvine and Boyle not want to stay for a European adventure. Gets them all a very high profile

[green day]

How much will Josh and Porto be worth if we get 3rd spit and/or win the cup. Play 8-10 games in Europe by Xmas ? I think unless the offer is nearer 2.5mill , Ron might well take the chance on keeping them all for another season. Why wouldn’t Josh, Porto, Nisbet , Irvine and Boyle not want to stay for a European adventure. Gets them all a very high profile


tbh I hadnt really thought of the Euro angle - but if we get third and either win the cup or its one of the two clubs above us - we are in European football til Christmas, which - as you say - gives us such a lot more exposure.

[Tyler Durden]

Doig cant sign a contract with Leicester because the transfer window is closed and he isnt in the final few months of his contract.

What are you suggesting, Leicester would just fire £1.5m to Hibs tomorrow when he (a) cant legally sign for them and (b) cant sign a PCA ??

If your premise is true, why are we not hearing daily news updates about these transfers in the (very wealthy) EPL, and why is there such a flap about TDD twice a year if its all made up?

Murphy signed for Hibs on a one season loan during the last summer window - with an obligation to transfer his registration permanently to Hibs for another year on the expiration of his Rangers deal at the end of this season.

We can do this for as long as you want.

You’re not right here.

Latest example being Dayot Upemecano signing for Bayern. He’ll join them in the summer but the fee and the players deal are all agreed already.

The Scott Brown scenario was exactly the same.

[MWHIBBIES]

Doig cant sign a contract with Leicester because the transfer window is closed and he isnt in the final few months of his contract.

What are you suggesting, Leicester would just fire £1.5m to Hibs tomorrow when he (a) cant legally sign for them and (b) cant sign a PCA ??

If your premise is true, why are we not hearing daily news updates about these transfers in the (very wealthy) EPL, and why is there such a flap about TDD twice a year if its all made up?

Murphy signed for Hibs on a one season loan during the last summer window - with an obligation to transfer his registration permanently to Hibs for another year on the expiration of his Rangers deal at the end of this season.

We can do this for as long as you want.

So what is stopping Leicester from agreeing a deal to transfer Doig registration to them on July first?

You are dead wrong but you can keep arguing. A recent example is Erling haaland was announced by dortmund at the end of December 2019 and joined on January 3rd when the window opened in Germany. Happens all the time. Players are announced regularly outside of transfer windows. Mario Gotzw is another famous example. Announced before Bayern played Dortmund in the CL final.

It is all made up because that is the open time you can register new players. You can sign them in advance whenever you want. You literally do here constant transfer rumours.

[superfurryhibby]

I disagree that our last batch of proper reinvesting didn't work - it just ended up being a bit delayed in when it worked.

Just now Aberdeen have a stadium that either needs a lot of work or a new stadium altogether, Hearts are £20m into a new stand and markedly inferior training facilities. We have HTC, we have the new East Stand. The problems came from not investing enough in the team - Petrie looked after every penny to the detriment of the first team in the end. When we won the Scottish cup, Lennon blew a lot of it on absolute dross like Big Dave, Slivka and the like.

With no immediate infrastructure work, a reasonable recent record in scouting and excellent training facilities, we're miles ahead in what we can do with player sales compared to our rivals, even with us all feeling the effects of the pandemic.

Player sales can be a good thing - as long as you have enough depth in that position (and with Stevenson and Mackie we do), and the scouting of new talent to bring in with that money is good (and we've really been the best we have been in years at that just now).

Not desperate to see Doig go, but would also be excited to see where we could propel ourselves with a couple of million in our pockets.

I think it's because we've not seen enough reinvestment in the first team in recent years that we've


I'm excited to see where this current team can go. I'm struggling to think of a time in my 50 years of going to matches whereby Hibs have sold good players and replaced them adequately.

I also disagree your point about left back. With Mackie, injuries aside (but bearing them in mind), he's not done anything like enough to suggest he is going to fill the left back spot. Lewis isn't going to take the team forward at this stage in his career.

If we were offered a significantly higher sum than the one quoted, then I would take it. The amount mentioned isn't going to transform Hibs. Better off keeping our assets, showing the fans and the manager we mean to build something more enduring, using the talent we have to win a trophy. That's how Hibs will get more money out of me.

[MWHIBBIES]

You’re not right here.

Latest example being Dayot Upemecano signing for Bayern. He’ll join them in the summer but the fee and the players deal are all agreed already.

The Scott Brown scenario was exactly the same.

Yep. Great example. Literally announced on bayern website.

[MWHIBBIES]

I disagree that our last batch of proper reinvesting didn't work - it just ended up being a bit delayed in when it worked.

Just now Aberdeen have a stadium that either needs a lot of work or a new stadium altogether, Hearts are £20m into a new stand and markedly inferior training facilities. We have HTC, we have the new East Stand. The problems came from not investing enough in the team - Petrie looked after every penny to the detriment of the first team in the end. When we won the Scottish cup, Lennon blew a lot of it on absolute dross like Big Dave, Slivka and the like.

With no immediate infrastructure work, a reasonable recent record in scouting and excellent training facilities, we're miles ahead in what we can do with player sales compared to our rivals, even with us all feeling the effects of the pandemic.

Player sales can be a good thing - as long as you have enough depth in that position (and with Stevenson and Mackie we do), and the scouting of new talent to bring in with that money is good (and we've really been the best we have been in years at that just now).

Not desperate to see Doig go, but would also be excited to see where we could propel ourselves with a couple of million in our pockets.

I think it's because we've not seen enough reinvestment in the first team in recent years that we've

Slivka was one of the better players Lennon signed. Far from dross. 3 winners against the old firm. We've had much, much worse even recently.

[HibeeHibernian4]

This is why I don't see how us or Aberdeen or even god forbid Hearts can be expected to ever win a league title again.

You cannot assemble a squad that solidifies itself and starts to make a title push before clubs down south (not even big ones) start circling. Millions already being thrown at Nisbet, Doig too.

I'm not saying that this squad per se would be future title contenders if left alone, but we'll never have the chance to find out because of the way modern football has gone. There's no time to build anything.

Jean-Marc Bosman has doomed us forever.

[HoboHarry]

This is why I don't see how us or Aberdeen or even god forbid Hearts can be expected to ever win a league title again.

You cannot assemble a squad that solidifies itself and starts to make a title push before clubs down south (not even big ones) start circling. Millions already being thrown at Nisbet, Doig too.

I'm not saying that this squad per se would be future title contenders if left alone, but we'll never have the chance to find out because of the way modern football has gone. There's no time to build anything.

Jean-Marc Bosman has doomed us forever.
It was managers like Jim McLean and the like that drove Jean-Marc Bosman to challenge the system.

[green day]

Yep. Great example. Literally announced on bayern website.

And if we see similar before the window opens with JD and Leicester I will be back on here eating humble pie.............:greengrin

[HibeeHibernian4]

It was managers like Jim McLean and the like that drove Jean-Marc Bosman to challenge the system.

Much preferred McLean's way to be quite honest with you.

[MWHIBBIES]

And if we see similar before the window opens with JD and Leicester I will be back on here eating humble pie.............:greengrin

I mean, your argument has been wrong regardless of Doig moving or not :greengrin

[superfurryhibby]

Much preferred McLean's way to be quite honest with you.

Some players that played under him may strongly disagree.

It worked at the time, but it wouldn't now.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Some players that played under him may strongly disagree.

It worked at the time, but it wouldn't now.

Possibly but there's not much about football at the moment that's "working" for anyone, apart from an elite 10% of footballers and agents.

It's built on sand and will hopefully collapse. :aok:

[J-C]

Until we get 30K+ fans in every home game we as a club will always be behind the 2 ugly sisters and will have to sell our better players every now and then to keep our head above water. We scrape about looking for for bargain free agents or pay for talent and hope to develop them like McGinn, Nisbet etc, we occasionally get a good talented youngster who we develop but we than have to sell because it helps balance the books and helps pay for the training ground etc.

Gordon said his ambition was to double the wages within 5 years, unfortunately Covid have hit that on the head just now but until that does happen we will still be a club that develops and sells on the better players, right now all we can offer them is 1st team football, the odd cup run and occasional decent league position, that in itself may not be enough to tempt them to stay, Nisbet and Birmingham a good example of a player's head being turned for more cash.

[superfurryhibby]

Until we get 30K+ fans in every home game we as a club will always be behind the 2 ugly sisters and will have to sell our better players every now and then to keep our head above water. We scrape about looking for for bargain free agents or pay for talent and hope to develop them like McGinn, Nisbet etc, we occasionally get a good talented youngster who we develop but we than have to sell because it helps balance the books and helps pay for the training ground etc.

Gordon said his ambition was to double the wages within 5 years, unfortunately Covid have hit that on the head just now but until that does happen we will still be a club that develops and sells on the better players, right now all we can offer them is 1st team football, the odd cup run and occasional decent league position, that in itself may not be enough to tempt them to stay, Nisbet and Birmingham a good example of a player's head being turned for more cash.


Of course we need to cut our cloth and all that and players will be sold to balance the books,. However. I think we are all hoping for a bit more in terms of what we can offer them. If we sell players at the first sniff of cash, then the club's going nowhere. Gordon has shown he means business, here's hoping that continues.

[J-C]

Of course we need to cut our cloth and all that and players will be sold to balance the books,. However. I think we are all hoping for a bit more in terms of what we can offer them. If we sell players at the first sniff of cash, then the club's going nowhere. Gordon has shown he means business, here's hoping that continues.


Unfortunately Covid has put a major spanner in the works, his 5 year plan may take longer and selling these young talented players may have to take place till we get through this.

[superfurryhibby]

Unfortunately Covid has put a major spanner in the works, his 5 year plan may take longer and selling these young talented players may have to take place till we get through this.

Yes, Covid has been a game changer and what you say may well be what happens.

That said, there is an opportunity for Hibs to consolidate our place as the best of the rest and hopefully the financial incentives associated with that would help us hold onto young talent a wee bit longer. Declining fees for Porteous and Nisbet gives me hope that we do that.

[Billy Whizz]

Still think he’s too young to head down south, for me he needs another season at Hibs

[WhileTheChief..]

RG confirmed interest from Brendan.

Expects one of Nesbitt, Porteous or Doig to leave in the summer.

[superfurryhibby]

RG confirmed interest from Brendan.

Expects one of Nesbitt, Porteous or Doig to leave in the summer.

Did he say these things at the AGM? i find that a bit odd.

[superfurryhibby]

RG confirmed interest from Brendan.

Expects one of Nesbitt, Porteous or Doig to leave in the summer.

You might need to expand on that.

[WhileTheChief..]

Did he say these things at the AGM? i find that a bit odd.

You’ll catch it on the podcast later.

He was extremely positive about them all. Says it’s a tricky balance trying to ensure we can stay competitive but allowing players to move on to a higher level where possible.

Move has to be right for everyone, timing, price etc.

Didn’t concern me at all. Still talking about doubling our turnover by 2023. I didn’t see the AGM but imagine he was interviewed after it.

[WhileTheChief..]

You might need to expand on that.

Sheesh, gimme a chance :wink:

[green day]

Did he say these things at the AGM? i find that a bit odd.

In the Sportsound interview this evening he said it was possible that one may move in the summer - but he wasnt punting them out, just realistic that sometimes guys can make moves upward and opportunities can emerge that are good for all parties.

[JimBHibees]

Still think he’s too young to head down south, for me he needs another season at Hibs

Absolutely think he would benefit from staying at Hibs for longer of course he and his agent may think differently.

[xyz23jc]

There's still time! "EXCLUSIVE! Rangers winning bidding war for Hibs want away star!" :greengrin

Fixed that for ya... ! :greengrin:agree::thumbsup:

[PatHead]

Fixed that for ya... ! :greengrin:agree::thumbsup:

Should you not add something in about lifetime supporter? It had always been his ambition.........

[MrRobot]

He doesn’t seem in a hurry to move given he just signed a new contract so no need to sell really.

[Dashing Bob S]

It wasn’t that long ago that all a decent young Scottish player needed to do was string a couple of passes together before the tabloids were linking them with the OF. McGinn changed everything here. The uglies have been conspicuous by their absence in the Doig tabloid tittle tattle.

Leicester for 5 mill plus a 25% of future transfer fee would be a good one for us and provide another ‘let’s all laugh at ham tarts’ moment.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I’ve said it before on here, I don’t think any player should be looking to move to a better league before playing at least 100 games.

Doig has signed a new contract and will be in no rush to leave. I can see Nisbet and Porto leaving before JD

[truehibernian]

What better incentive for a young player we are keen on, seeing top English teams bid high for three or four of our current side after a good season or two.

Would love Doig and Nisbet to get another full season with Hibs, but as RG said there is a balance to be found - it would not surprise me in the slightest for Celtic to try and come in for Doig under Howe. They won't keep Laxalt and Taylor is lightweight and not as athletic. To really progress, Josh needs to look at SJM and try England (for me).

Josh is going to be a superb player if he continues as he's doing.

[Crab apple]

I’ve said it before on here, I don’t think any player should be looking to move to a better league before playing at least 100 games.

Doig has signed a new contract and will be in no rush to leave. I can see Nisbet and Porto leaving before JD

Agreed. Kieran Tierney had 102 appearances before leaving the lessers. Moved to Arsenal for 25m and now attracting interest from Man City and Real for 50m. I think Doig has huge potential but a full season with us next year will benefit him and we’ll see then if he goes on to develop as well as KT.

[bigwheel]

Agreed. Kieran Tierney had 102 appearances before leaving the lessers. Moved to Arsenal for 25m and now attracting interest from Man City and Real for 50m. I think Doig has huge potential but a full season with us next year will benefit him and we’ll see then if he goes on to develop as well as KT.

Agree ..Players should move to get at least some first team football at their next club ..Doig wouldn’t be starting at a top league club down south - but he might in two years time ....he will be sent on loan at best if he moves in the summer ....

[Mr. Wonderful]

You’ll catch it on the podcast later.

He was extremely positive about them all. Says it’s a tricky balance trying to ensure we can stay competitive but allowing players to move on to a higher level where possible.

Move has to be right for everyone, timing, price etc.

Didn’t concern me at all. Still talking about doubling our turnover by 2023. I didn’t see the AGM but imagine he was interviewed after it.

What podcast is this? Hibs. Net one?

There's so many now I'm losing track

[WhileTheChief..]

BBC sportsound

[EI255]

I hate just because it's Hibs the price is set by the media plebs at £1.5m....yet if he were wearing blue or Hoops it'd be way, way more than that.

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[bingo70]

I hate just because it's Hibs the price is set by the media plebs at £1.5m....yet if he were wearing blue or Hoops it'd be way, way more than that.

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That’s just the nature of the food chain though.

If he was playing for Hamilton his value would be a lot less than it is with us.

[3pm]

Watching the AGM today, I doubt there will be too many pulling a fast one on the board.

[wookie70]

Selling players to the English Premiership for good fees and making sure there are healthy sell on benefits could be the best and quickest way to grow. Porteous, Nisbet and Doig are all very marketable and could all create large sell ons if they develop. I think they should all stay another year but if money is reinvested and done with a view to buy the best young players we can to develop then that is a very workable model. SJM being sold may give us enough cash to replace anyone that leaves and pick up a few gems for the future too.

I think that was what LD wanted to build and it was looking possible under Stubbs but imploded a bit with Lennon. Jack Ross seems to be in a similar vein as Stubbs bringing in young players who are ambitious and ready to make the next step. Giving them lots of game time but also protecting them when needed.

The succession planning needs to be good and recruitment has to be accurate but I think if done correctly it could make us thrive and be the third force which is what RG is wanting. I think we could get a name as a stepping stone club which could also mean players want to come to us and we could get some good loans too.

Selling young players, if done correctly, can be a very progressive move for all concerned.

[LeithMike]

Selling players to the English Premiership for good fees and making sure there are healthy sell on benefits could be the best and quickest way to grow. Porteous, Nisbet and Doig are all very marketable and could all create large sell ons if they develop. I think they should all stay another year but if money is reinvested and done with a view to buy the best young players we can to develop then that is a very workable model. SJM being sold may give us enough cash to replace anyone that leaves and pick up a few gems for the future too.

I think that was what LD wanted to build and it was looking possible under Stubbs but imploded a bit with Lennon. Jack Ross seems to be in a similar vein as Stubbs bringing in young players who are ambitious and ready to make the next step. Giving them lots of game time but also protecting them when needed.

The succession planning needs to be good and recruitment has to be accurate but I think if done correctly it could make us thrive and be the third force which is what RG is wanting. I think we could get a name as a stepping stone club which could also mean players want to come to us and we could get some good loans too.

Selling young players, if done correctly, can be a very progressive move for all concerned.I think this sounds fine in theory but not sure it works in practice. I'm pretty sure this is what Rod Petrie tried to achieve when the golden generation came through. Talent is really unpredictable though and changing swathes of players on a regular basis is not a good idea. There's always a huge element of risk.

By setting yourself up as a "stepping stone" you're also not getting the players to invest themselves in the club.The buy low sell high model also views players as commodities which again isn't conducive to building a great team or team spirit. With the Stubbs and Lennon years you got the impression that the core of the squad loved being at the club and were in things for the long haul. I am pretty sure that until his last year John McGinn wasn't eyeing a move and was very happy at Hibs.

We're clearly on a good financial footing despite the difficulties of the last two seasons so we don't need large transfer fees. Let's concentrate on building a club where players want to be and would be very reluctant to leave no matter what the offer.


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[franck sauzee]

Rodgers must only think £1.5m is what all our players are worth. you'd have thought he'd learnt his lesson missing out on SJM!

After John went to Villa there was talk that Rodgers was furious Celtic had messed about and allowed another club to entice him away

[wills]

Josh won’t be moving in the next transfer window, he is happy at the club and wants to play as much football as possible. Signed the new contract offered, has his head screwed on, will move in a year or 2. If anyone leaves it will probably be Nisbet, at 24 he’s at a good age to make the move and already had his head turned.

[hibee-boys]

Josh won’t be moving in the next transfer window, he is happy at the club and wants to play as much football as possible. Signed the new contract offered, has his head screwed on, will move in a year or 2. If anyone leaves it will probably be Nisbet, at 24 he’s at a good age to make the move and already had his head turned.

Spot on, last thing Josh needs is warming the bench at a club, or playing reserve/under 21 football somewhere. He’s still growing/learning the game, best place for that is Hibs for at least another season, if not 2, he’ll get his move eventually and he’ll be better prepared for it then.

[SHODAN]

Why do our players always seem to have a value of around £1-£1.5m, according to red top journalists?

Doig is not worth that. He is worth a lot more. Find some of their valuation "theories" staggering at times.

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It's pathetic. Down south transfer values have gone up tenfold the last decade, but in Scotland it's been £1.5m for about fifteen years.

[ancient hibee]

I think this sounds fine in theory but not sure it works in practice. I'm pretty sure this is what Rod Petrie tried to achieve when the golden generation came through. Talent is really unpredictable though and changing swathes of players on a regular basis is not a good idea. There's always a huge element of risk.

By setting yourself up as a "stepping stone" you're also not getting the players to invest themselves in the club.The buy low sell high model also views players as commodities which again isn't conducive to building a great team or team spirit. With the Stubbs and Lennon years you got the impression that the core of the squad loved being at the club and were in things for the long haul. I am pretty sure that until his last year John McGinn wasn't eyeing a move and was very happy at Hibs.

We're clearly on a good financial footing despite the difficulties of the last two seasons so we don't need large transfer fees. Let's concentrate on building a club where players want to be and would be very reluctant to leave no matter what the offer.


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Spot on in my opinion. The idea of being a revolving door is not one that is going to attract season ticket holders. We’ve suffered enough with good players leaving never mind doing it when it’s not necessary.Where is this never ending stream of young Scottish football talent coming from.I don’t see much proof of it.

[superfurryhibby]

I think this sounds fine in theory but not sure it works in practice. I'm pretty sure this is what Rod Petrie tried to achieve when the golden generation came through. Talent is really unpredictable though and changing swathes of players on a regular basis is not a good idea. There's always a huge element of risk.

By setting yourself up as a "stepping stone" you're also not getting the players to invest themselves in the club.The buy low sell high model also views players as commodities which again isn't conducive to building a great team or team spirit. With the Stubbs and Lennon years you got the impression that the core of the squad loved being at the club and were in things for the long haul. I am pretty sure that until his last year John McGinn wasn't eyeing a move and was very happy at Hibs.

We're clearly on a good financial footing despite the difficulties of the last two seasons so we don't need large transfer fees. Let's concentrate on building a club where players want to be and would be very reluctant to leave no matter what the offer.


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Agree with of this.

Build a club that fosters team spirit, provides a platform for the ambitious and also satisfies the fans.

Hibs have shown they mean business already, resisting the offers for players in January, with an eye on the bigger prize. It may well be that we see a departure or two in the summer, but I’m sure we will have used the time to identify suitable targets.

[wookie70]

I think this sounds fine in theory but not sure it works in practice. I'm pretty sure this is what Rod Petrie tried to achieve when the golden generation came through. Talent is really unpredictable though and changing swathes of players on a regular basis is not a good idea. There's always a huge element of risk.

By setting yourself up as a "stepping stone" you're also not getting the players to invest themselves in the club.The buy low sell high model also views players as commodities which again isn't conducive to building a great team or team spirit. With the Stubbs and Lennon years you got the impression that the core of the squad loved being at the club and were in things for the long haul. I am pretty sure that until his last year John McGinn wasn't eyeing a move and was very happy at Hibs.

We're clearly on a good financial footing despite the difficulties of the last two seasons so we don't need large transfer fees. Let's concentrate on building a club where players want to be and would be very reluctant to leave no matter what the offer.


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What I am talking about is strategic. You would sell on players but have others identified too. It isn't about selling a player the second a decent offer comes in and I am advocating that Hibs would retain an interest in the player via a percentage of future transfers. Take SJM for example. If we get 5 Million when he is sold on that is roughly equivalent of a full years worth of ST income. There won't be many SJMs but there is a margin for error because of the money involved down south.

I totally agree about the vibe the club and squad had under Stubbs and for a chunk of Lennon's tenure. You can get that type of vibe when players can see themselves developing and a brighter future. Again I am not saying sell every decent player I am saying have a policy of buying quality young players and a plan to develop them. Supplement that with some experience and you have a chance of success on the park and the opportunity to build on that when the gems move on. They will move on regardless so I am saying have a plan for that and a model which means we maximise the chances of more SJM types.

I do agree though that it isn't easy and can be risky and I don't want us to be seen as a club who treats players as money makers. I want to see us as a club where players can enjoy the present but work towards the future. I don't want to see many journeyman type players, I want hungry young players on there way up.

[lord bunberry]

What I am talking about is strategic. You would sell on players but have others identified too. It isn't about selling a player the second a decent offer comes in and I am advocating that Hibs would retain an interest in the player via a percentage of future transfers. Take SJM for example. If we get 5 Million when he is sold on that is roughly equivalent of a full years worth of ST income. There won't be many SJMs but there is a margin for error because of the money involved down south.

I totally agree about the vibe the club and squad had under Stubbs and for a chunk of Lennon's tenure. You can get that type of vibe when players can see themselves developing and a brighter future. Again I am not saying sell every decent player I am saying have a policy of buying quality young players and a plan to develop them. Supplement that with some experience and you have a chance of success on the park and the opportunity to build on that when the gems move on. They will move on regardless so I am saying have a plan for that and a model which means we maximise the chances of more SJM types.

I do agree though that it isn't easy and can be risky and I don't want us to be seen as a club who treats players as money makers. I want to see us as a club where players can enjoy the present but work towards the future. I don't want to see many journeyman type players, I want hungry young players on there way up.
You’re 100% correct. Our policy of buying hungry young players is the best chance at achieving success for a club of our size and it’s pretty much the only way we will be able to move on to the next level. It’s not a revolving door as we’ll get 2 or 3 years out of these players before they move on. Any player we sign that does well will move on in that time frame no matter what our policy is as we can’t pay the wages that these players demand. The only way for us to pay more wages is to generate more money through selling. The more money we bring in, the more money we can pay for better players, the more we can pay players, meaning it takes bigger offers from better clubs to sign our players and the whole cycle begins again with us moving up the price and quality range.

[Phil MaGlass]

I am more hopeful off Hibs making more than a couple of million from Doig/Nisbet, now that teams like Birningham,Leeds and Leicester are noted to be interested, just the fact leicesteer are interested should push up the asking price, when SJM went to Villa, the reason we sold him for so little was the fact nobody else was interested, now we have a few clubs interested in our players, which is only a good thing.

[LancsHibs]

I am more hopeful off Hibs making more than a couple of million from Doig/Nisbet, now that teams like Birningham,Leeds and Leicester are noted to be interested, just the fact leicesteer are interested should push up the asking price, when SJM went to Villa, the reason we sold him for so little was the fact nobody else was interested, now we have a few clubs interested in our players, which is only a good thing.

And the length of SJM’s contract left with us resulted in the relatively small transfer fee received

[Since90+2]

And the length of SJM’s contract left with us resulted in the relatively small transfer fee received

Did we not get 2.8 million for SJM plus a decent sell on fee and add ons? I think that's pretty decent considering he only had a year left on his deal.

[J-C]

Did we not get 2.8 million for SJM plus a decent sell on fee and add ons? I think that's pretty decent considering he only had a year left on his deal.

2.8 in total, the initial was nearer 1.5 with add ons for promotion etc.

[Since90+2]

2.8 in total, the initial was nearer 1.5 with add ons for promotion etc.

Ah ok thought it was 2.8 initially.

[MWHIBBIES]

Ah ok thought it was 2.8 initially.

It was. JC is incorrect.

Its nearer 4 million now with a sell on % still in place.

[Allant1981]

It was. JC is incorrect.

Its nearer 4 million now with a sell on % still in place.

Yip was well over 2m when looking at the figures shown at the agm

[WhileTheChief..]

There was some chat on the radio about Hibs doing a deal whereby they sell Doig but loan him back for next season to allow him to keep developing with game time.

They weren’t linking him to any club specifically, just saying it’s the type of deal that could suit all parties.

I’d be happy with that if RG felt we were getting a fair price.

[Since452]

There was some chat on the radio about Hibs doing a deal whereby they sell Doig but loan him back for next season to allow him to keep developing with game time.

They weren’t linking him to any club specifically, just saying it’s the type of deal that could suit all parties.

I’d be happy with that if RG felt we were getting a fair price.

This kind of deal is always mentioned with young players but I'm struggling to remember a time I've actually seen it happen

[calumhibee1]

There was some chat on the radio about Hibs doing a deal whereby they sell Doig but loan him back for next season to allow him to keep developing with game time.

They weren’t linking him to any club specifically, just saying it’s the type of deal that could suit all parties.

I’d be happy with that if RG felt we were getting a fair price.

It seems a sensible deal for the buying club. They get the player nice and early and therefore cheaper, they get to leave him to develop at a club he’s settled at and then they get to review the situation again in a years time.

For us, I’m not sure it’s a great deal unless we’re strapped for cash.

[Big_Franck]

This kind of deal is always mentioned with young players but I'm struggling to remember a time I've actually seen it happen

It's fantasy stuff really. Realistically if a club like Leicester were to sign him they'll loan him out to a decent championship team I'd imagine. They'll rate that level of football far higher and it'll be easier for their coaches/loan manager to keep an eye on his development.

[Big_Franck]

It seems a sensible deal for the buying club. They get the player nice and early and therefore cheaper, they get to leave him to develop at a club he’s settled at and then they get to review the situation again in a years time.

For us, I’m not sure it’s a great deal unless we’re strapped for cash.

For us it would be an unbelievable deal. Say we get 2m for a youngster still making his way in the game and on top of that we get to keep him for another year? Can't see it happening though.

[WhileTheChief..]

It seems a sensible deal for the buying club. They get the player nice and early and therefore cheaper, they get to leave him to develop at a club he’s settled at and then they get to review the situation again in a years time.

For us, I’m not sure it’s a great deal unless we’re strapped for cash.

Money in the bank and we get to enjoy him for another year. Sounds good to me.

[MWHIBBIES]

There was some chat on the radio about Hibs doing a deal whereby they sell Doig but loan him back for next season to allow him to keep developing with game time.

They weren’t linking him to any club specifically, just saying it’s the type of deal that could suit all parties.

I’d be happy with that if RG felt we were getting a fair price.

That doesn't suit all parties. If he goes for x price now, then improves exponentially next season with us on loan and we could've got much more.

[wookie70]

That doesn't suit all parties. If he goes for x price now, then improves exponentially next season with us on loan and we could've got much more. If you have a sell on agreed that sorts that out

[WhileTheChief..]

That doesn't suit all parties. If he goes for x price now, then improves exponentially next season with us on loan and we could've got much more.

Or he might break his leg in August and never kick a ball again but we’ve got the cash.

We’re about to start talking about futures and options here. I’m away to watch Bloomberg for a bit.

[MWHIBBIES]

If you have a sell on agreed that sorts that outNot really. We could negotioate a bigger one and a higher future fee.


Or he might break his leg in August and never kick a ball again but we’ve got the cash.

We’re about to start talking about futures and options here. I’m away to watch Bloomberg for a bit.

This isn't the 50s anymore, though, the odds of a player breaking a leg and never playing against are very slim. 99% come back fit and strong.

The best option by miles is for Hibs to use him and sell at his highest point of value.

[007]

There was some chat on the radio about Hibs doing a deal whereby they sell Doig but loan him back for next season to allow him to keep developing with game time.

They weren’t linking him to any club specifically, just saying it’s the type of deal that could suit all parties.

I’d be happy with that if RG felt we were getting a fair price.

I think that is a great model to follow for young players making a big jump to a club where they clearly will initially struggle to challenge for a starting place. Player continues to develop and gets a lot more game time than they would initially at their new club as well as probably getting experience playing European football. New club gets much more certainty around the player's continued development than they would putting him out on loan elsewhere because they know already that he's a regular starter with us and how he fits in with our manager's plans/team set up. We get the benefit of having the player for another year and them developing more will increase their value and thereby the sell-on amount.

Okay there's an argument for keeping him longer and getting more money down the line but it's about getting the right balance of when to let them go, so based on it being the right time for them to go, I think it would be good to have 1 or 2 players on this model on an ongoing basis. You don't want to have too many because you don't want to block the next ones coming through. If we can get a deal for Doig like this then it'll make us a very attractive place for other youngsters to come. Arguably a better and faster route to success than in the Celtic and Rangers youth set up.

[007]

That doesn't suit all parties. If he goes for x price now, then improves exponentially next season with us on loan and we could've got much more.

"If" being the operative word. If he has a bad season next season and his form declines exponentially he might not get a move at all.

I'm not saying you're wrong but it is about getting balance right of when is the right time to sell and when is the right time to keep hold of a player. There are ifs, buts and maybes with every transaction. Some we'll get right and some we won't.

[Billy Whizz]

I wonder if Scholsey on loan at Stenny has a chance next season at Hibs, if Doig was to move on
Very much in the Lewis Stevenson mould, both in physique and playing style

[Fergus52]

It's fantasy stuff really. Realistically if a club like Leicester were to sign him they'll loan him out to a decent championship team I'd imagine. They'll rate that level of football far higher and it'll be easier for their coaches/loan manager to keep an eye on his development.

No guarantee he'd play every week at a decent championship team, would most likely be on the bench most weeks which wouldn't be great for his development

[WhileTheChief..]

Not really. We could negotioate a bigger one and a higher future fee.



This isn't the 50s anymore, though, the odds of a player breaking a leg and never playing against are very slim. 99% come back fit and strong.

The best option by miles is for Hibs to use him and sell at his highest point of value.

Hard one for the club to call without being able to look backwards.

Maybe it’s now as he has so long on his contract?

Maybe it’s in a few years time when he’s established himself in the Scotland squad and has played in Europe a dozen times? But now he’s in the last year of his contract, so how much effect does that have?

As RG said, it’s a tricky balancing act. We don’t want to hamper his progress but we also want to stay competitive and get a good deal.

So maybe a sale and loan back is a compromise the club would consider or even encourage?

I wouldn’t just dismiss it as rubbish anyways.

[Aldo]

The SJM transfer to Villa has raised our profile imho and how we developed a young player! Others will see this and will be constantly monitoring us. The 2 young lads in the development squad moving south having not kicked a ball speaks volumes too.

You may also find that teams are also willing to do business with us when we are looking at their players!


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[Gmack7]

I wonder if Scholsey on loan at Stenny has a chance next season at Hibs, if Doig was to move on
Very much in the Lewis Stevenson mould, both in physique and playing style
Any idea how he's been doing Billy?

[Billy Whizz]

Any idea how he's been doing Billy?

He was out injured for a bit, but scored and was man of the match this week
He was deemed one our best prospects a year or two ago, but the lack of football for these players hasn’t helped. He’s still only 19, so got time on his side
Be interesting to see where he plays his football next season

https://twitter.com/stenhousemuirfc/status/1380500285932646405?s=21

[CapitalGreen]

"If" being the operative word. If he has a bad season next season and his form declines exponentially he might not get a move at all.

I wouldn’t be disappointed if Doig stayed at Hibs.

[CJHibby]

I'd hope Hibs would try their utmost to hang onto the lad for at least another season..and don't sell to the Old Firm please!!

[Bridge hibs]

I'd hope Hibs would try their utmost to hang onto the lad for at least another season..and don't sell to the Old Firm please!!Or as part of a deal for Griffiths ?

[007]

Or as part of a deal for Griffiths ?

Highly likely Griffiths will be a free agent soon so the only deal needing done will be with Griffiths himself.

[Jones28]

I wonder if Scholsey on loan at Stenny has a chance next season at Hibs, if Doig was to move on
Very much in the Lewis Stevenson mould, both in physique and playing style

Already a write off for some then.

[heretoday]

I don't rate him as highly as some so if we can get a good price, sell him.

[ekhibee]

Needlessly harsh statement. There are going to be a lot of clubs desperate to sell this summer, and if we got Alan Campbell, Lawrence Shankland and Stephen O'Donnell for the sale of one player for example then that would strengthen us in three areas for losing a player in a position we're already well covered in.

Selling players doesn't show a lack of ambition if it's reinvested very well.

Very true, and obviously that could apply if Nisbet was to leave, it doesn't apply exclusively to Doig.

[Wilson]

I don't rate him as highly as some so if we can get a good price, sell him.

I've rated him from the start. I argued the benefit of giving him game time when others wanted Stevenson back in the team. I'm not surprised there is interest in him from much bigger clubs. I think there is some value in getting more games at hibs - especially at European level if we can make it. He'll learn more and we'll be selling a player more ready for the challenge.

He will move for a good price and I hope he goes on to have a great career.

[bingo70]

Just heard Gerrard signing Doigs praises after the game. He thought Doig against Patterson was a great battle and both could go to the very top.

I see Tierney has been ruled out for the rest of the season, I wonder if Doig could squeeze into the Scotland squad?

[HendoDelivered]

I don't rate him as highly as some so if we can get a good price, sell him.

There’s always one 🙄

[hibbysam]

Just heard Gerrard signing Doigs praises after the game. He thought Doig against Patterson was a great battle and both could go to the very top.

I see Tierney has been ruled out for the rest of the season, I wonder if Doig could squeeze into the Scotland squad?

Nowhere near. Even if Tierney missed out through injury, Robertson and Taylor would be first choices and they might take Hickey seeing as he can play left or right back (so I’m told).

[bingo70]

Nowhere near. Even if Tierney missed out through injury, Robertson and Taylor would be first choices and they might take Hickey seeing as he can play left or right back (so I’m told).

Does Taylor get his game for Celtic? I thought he’d lost his place to the Uruguayan guy they got from Milan.

I agree it’s unlikely he’ll get in, I just wonder if there’s an outside chance if there’s many more injuries or if he wants to bring some young players for their experience like we’ve done in the past.

Fwiw I think he’ll have jumped ahead of Hickey in the queue now.

[007]

Does Taylor get his game for Celtic? I thought he’d lost his place to the Uruguayan guy they got from Milan.

I agree it’s unlikely he’ll get in, I just wonder if there’s an outside chance if there’s many more injuries or if he wants to bring some young players for their experience like we’ve done in the past.

Fwiw I think he’ll have jumped ahead of Hickey in the queue now.

Would be surprised if Steve Clarke was to include players just to get them experience when he's now got just 2 friendlies before the Euros. Would guess he'll be focusing onto nailing down his squad for the Euros.

[hibbysam]

Does Taylor get his game for Celtic? I thought he’d lost his place to the Uruguayan guy they got from Milan.

I agree it’s unlikely he’ll get in, I just wonder if there’s an outside chance if there’s many more injuries or if he wants to bring some young players for their experience like we’ve done in the past.

Fwiw I think he’ll have jumped ahead of Hickey in the queue now.

He’s not been playing, but still got into the last squad. He’d be in long before Doig. I’d imagine it would be fairly close between Doig and Hickey, and neither would be likely to go, but Hickey would have the benefit of being able to play both sides, a must in most tournament squads.

[wookie70]

Another decent performance from Doig today. He struggles to do a full 90 mins for me and his positioning is still a bit suspect but both of those issues are improving week on week and it won't be long before he is a very good player at this level. he is a mile away from a Scotland call up and might have to move more centrally given the two who are ahead of him.

[hibbysam]

Another decent performance from Doig today. He struggles to do a full 90 mins for me and his positioning is still a bit suspect but both of those issues are improving week on week and it won't be long before he is a very good player at this level. he is a mile away from a Scotland call up and might have to move more centrally given the two who are ahead of him.

Maybe short term, but Tierney really needs to sort his injuries out, and Robertson is 27 and will be heading out the picture when Doig is 22/23. Doig also has the athleticism and attributes to progress and be as good as them.

[wookie70]

Maybe short term, but Tierney really needs to sort his injuries out, and Robertson is 27 and will be heading out the picture when Doig is 22/23. Doig also has the athleticism and attributes to progress and be as good as them.

I am forgetting just how young he is. He definitely has all the attributes needed and also a little bit of gallousness too.

[Andy74]

He’s not been playing, but still got into the last squad. He’d be in long before Doig. I’d imagine it would be fairly close between Doig and Hickey, and neither would be likely to go, but Hickey would have the benefit of being able to play both sides, a must in most tournament squads.

Taylor is back in the Celtic team currently.

[Brightside]

I wouldnt rush Doig into the national squad yet. A year with the u21s will be great for him.

[bingo70]

I wouldnt rush Doig into the national squad yet. A year with the u21s will be great for him.

I don’t disagree with you but other nations seem to transition young players from the young age groups to the senior squad much better than we do.

We seem to have decent young players who do alright uo tk under 21 level, they then disappear for a while and start getting called again at 26/27 years old.

There’s obviously exceptions to that but we rarely seem to have a really exciting youngster breaking through into the first team from a very young age.

[jgl07]

I don’t disagree with you but other nations seem to transition young players from the young age groups to the senior squad much better than we do.

We seem to have decent young players who do alright uo tk under 21 level, they then disappear for a while and start getting called again at 26/27 years old.

There’s obviously exceptions to that but we rarely seem to have a really exciting youngster breaking through into the first team from a very young age.
You look at Jadon Sancho and Phil Foden both in the England squad at 20. Jude Bellingham is getting there at 17.

[1875Sean]

You look at Jadon Sancho and Phil Foden both in the England squad at 20. Jude Bellingham is getting there at 17.

Let’s face it if he is in the senior squad he will be third choice left back, he will get more development playing in the under 21s

The English players you touch on may be young but they are getting game time

[superfurryhibby]

I wouldnt rush Doig into the national squad yet. A year with the u21s will be great for him.

Doig is nowhere near the standard required to play senior international football. He’s had a good first season at Hibs, but he’s got a lot to prove still for me. U21’s seems the natural step int9 the national set up.