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Jim44
31-03-2021, 10:59 AM
Promising: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-sporting-director-working-on-an-offer-club-hopes-midfielder-jackson-irvine-wont-refuse-3184283?fbclid=IwAR0UVyRezREdXiWqU9YKXRIVB4qJnttOM 15otqpbbHBoPZj49xwsPh2x3L0

Peevemor
31-03-2021, 11:03 AM
Promising: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-sporting-director-working-on-an-offer-club-hopes-midfielder-jackson-irvine-wont-refuse-3184283?fbclid=IwAR0UVyRezREdXiWqU9YKXRIVB4qJnttOM 15otqpbbHBoPZj49xwsPh2x3L0

It's weird having a Hibs manager giving updates like this. Normally it's tighter than a gnat's chuff around East Mains.

CMurdoch
31-03-2021, 11:13 AM
Promising: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-sporting-director-working-on-an-offer-club-hopes-midfielder-jackson-irvine-wont-refuse-3184283?fbclid=IwAR0UVyRezREdXiWqU9YKXRIVB4qJnttOM 15otqpbbHBoPZj49xwsPh2x3L0

Even a short contract until January would be a good result.
Teams like ours need consistent performers and Irvine fits the bill.
Would leave Hibs with only a quality goalkeeper to sign for our team to stay at our current level.
With the likes of Magennis hopefully kicking on next season after a good pre season and another couple of starters signed in the summer we would be a better equipped team next season which would keep Aberdeen in the rear mirror.

Fergus52
31-03-2021, 11:16 AM
Even a short contract until January would be a good result.
Teams like ours need consistent performers and Irvine fits the bill.
Would leave Hibs with only a quality goalkeeper to sign for our team to stay at our current level.
With the likes of Magennis hopefully kicking on next season after a good pre season and another couple of starters signed in the summer we could be a better team next season which would keep Aberdeen in the rear mirror.

If Irvine resigns and Murphy and Allan can stay fit then our squad would be in a great place.

First team goalkeeper and competition for centre back and up front and we'd be sorted for 2 games a week til christmas.

Stanton Spence
31-03-2021, 11:21 AM
I hope we can get this deal done as I didn't think we would be able to keep Jackson beyond his short term deal.
I think we will see an even better player next season along with Cadden once they get a proper pre season with hibs. We had a lot of players playing together for the first time this season along with a few players making their breakthrough at first team level this year also which can only be good for next season


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Since452
31-03-2021, 11:24 AM
I think Jackson would fancy a crack at Europe next season.

Iain G
31-03-2021, 11:54 AM
In a parallel universe Ross Jack is giving an update on contract talks with Irvine Jackson...

scoopyboy
31-03-2021, 11:57 AM
I'm hopeful

CallumLaidlaw
31-03-2021, 12:00 PM
I'm hopeful

Wishful hopeful or can see it happening?


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Stanton Spence
31-03-2021, 12:01 PM
I'm hopefulI was actually doubtful scoops but I'm now slightly confident that a deal is further down the line than I imagined going by the gaffers comments in the press lately

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Vault Boy
31-03-2021, 12:02 PM
I think Jackson would fancy a crack at Europe next season.

:agree:

Lee Marvin
31-03-2021, 12:02 PM
My gut is saying that Ross wouldn't be talking openly about this if it didn't have a very high chance of happening/already close to being finalised.

Would be a great signing on a free.

CMurdoch
31-03-2021, 12:14 PM
My gut is saying that Ross wouldn't be talking openly about this if it didn't have a very high chance of happening/already close to being finalised.

Would be a great signing on a free.

I agree with your gut feeling. No other reason for Ross to show our hand.
Expect an announcement to coincide with season ticket launch.

scoopyboy
31-03-2021, 12:26 PM
I was actually doubtful scoops but I'm now slightly confident that a deal is further down the line than I imagined going by the gaffers comments in the press lately

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He doesn't tend to talk up signing talks (contract extension or new) unless it's there.

That's all I'm basing it on.

Stanton Spence
31-03-2021, 12:29 PM
He doesn't tend to talk up signing talks (contract extension or new) unless it's there.

That's all I'm basing it on.I agree with you bud and it's very rarely you hear words like Ross is coming out with in the press unless he's extremely confident about Irvine staying on [emoji1303]

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Viva_Palmeiras
31-03-2021, 12:37 PM
When’s the Hibs.net exclusive interview oot?

superfurryhibby
31-03-2021, 12:39 PM
If he signs up, it’s a coup for Hibs. There’s plenty to come from Irvine and he’ll be a tremendous asset to what is shaping up to be a formidable midfield.

I love the contrast between how our club is managed and those that are now floundering in our wake. Hibs have the chance to take advantage of how badly run our rivals are and build something substantial. We’re lucky to have an owner who is investing and a manager who knows what he’s doing.

Billy Whizz
31-03-2021, 12:41 PM
It's weird having a Hibs manager giving updates like this. Normally it's tighter than a gnat's chuff around East Mains.

Season tickets to sell

Since452
31-03-2021, 12:42 PM
If he signs up, it’s a coup for Hibs. There’s plenty to come from Irvine and he’ll be a tremendous asset to what is shaping up to be a formidable midfield.

I love the contrast between how our club is managed and those that are now floundering in our wake. Hibs have the chance to take advantage of how badly run our rivals are and build something substantial. We’re lucky to have an owner who is investing and a manager who knows what he’s doing.

This is probably the best transitional period we've ever had and is pretty ominous for our nearest challengers. Ross's first full season. He now has the foundations in place to build an extremely good legacy. Jackson Irvine signing would go a long way to that. Promising.

Vault Boy
31-03-2021, 12:42 PM
When’s the Hibs.net exclusive interview oot?

Hoping to have it out on Friday mate, it's a slightly bigger editing job this time round. The upside is ~35 mins of Jackson content!

Allez Hibs
31-03-2021, 12:49 PM
Hope we can get him signed up.

Stevie Reid
31-03-2021, 12:53 PM
Would be a huge signing if we could get him for a couple of years. Been solid so far, with many glimpses of what I believe he would offer when fully fit, with a full preseason behind him.

Northernhibee
31-03-2021, 12:53 PM
Back in the day we signed the likes of Ricardo Vaz Te who were on their bike as soon as they could once their deals ran out.

The fact that we’ve got players with such a pedigree as Jackson Irvine willing to even discuss staying with us shows how well run a club we are.

It’s a good feeling.

Viva_Palmeiras
31-03-2021, 12:58 PM
Hoping to have it out on Friday mate, it's a slightly bigger editing job this time round. The upside is ~35 mins of Jackson content!

Nice a lovely prezzie for Good Friday looking fwd to it. And to see what caused him to spit is tea oot :)

MyJo
31-03-2021, 03:15 PM
I reckon he will sign on for another year if we finish third and get the European spot that guarantees us to be in a group stage.

jacomo
31-03-2021, 03:16 PM
Would be a huge signing if we could get him for a couple of years. Been solid so far, with many glimpses of what I believe he would offer when fully fit, with a full preseason behind him.


We’ve got a lot to offer: the gaffer likes him and will offer regular playing time, his international manager seems happy, and the prospect of European games.

Fingers crossed.

Jim44
31-03-2021, 03:21 PM
I reckon he will sign on for another year if we finish third and get the European spot that guarantees us to be in a group stage.


We’ve got a lot to offer: the gaffer likes him and will offer regular playing time, his international manager seems happy, and the prospect of European games.

Fingers crossed.

My sentiments. It would be great if he signed before our 3rd place was guaranteed as I think his commitment would be a great boost for our chance of success in the 5 post split matches.

Peevemor
11-04-2021, 10:10 PM
I noticed that the interviewer singled out Irvine for praise in JR's post match interview, then an unusually long (for a player) post match interview with Irvine himself.

I was a wee bit surprised given that he wasn't a stand out today.

Maybe a wee announcement in the offing?

Unseen work
11-04-2021, 10:19 PM
I noticed that the interviewer singled out Irvine for praise in JR's post match interview, then an unusually long (for a player) post match interview with Irvine himself.

I was a wee bit surprised given that he wasn't a stand out today.

Maybe a wee announcement in the offing?

I really like Irvine and think he would be brilliant after a full pre season. Don’t think he gets the recognition for some of the passes he plays either, both today and even last week against QOTS.

Has the ability to play the Scott Allan pass which I was expecting.

I would play him as part of the central 2 with Gogic though and have Newell further forward if that’s the 3 we’re going with.

Newell better on the half turn and playing in tight spaces. Irvine better defensively.

jacomo
11-04-2021, 10:31 PM
Would be a huge signing if we could get him for a couple of years. Been solid so far, with many glimpses of what I believe he would offer when fully fit, with a full preseason behind him.


Agree with you.

He was disappointing today I think but that final 5-10% of sharpness when he is fully fit could make a world of difference.

Jack Ross clearly favours a pretty cautious, tactical approach. We need a player or two who can stay disciplined but also knows when to take a risk or grab an opportunity.

Irvine isn’t playing with that level of freedom yet imo.

Scooter
12-04-2021, 07:50 AM
I thought his post match interview was great. The interviewer is trying to draw on positives which Jackson is going along with but you can tell hes raging we got beat

Dmas
12-04-2021, 08:49 AM
I’m not convinced by him, well aware he’s a fair amount behind fitness wise and match sharpness be interesting to see after a full pre season what we get, I just hope we’re not pushing the boat out too much for him if again we’re going for a small squad next season there is other areas of the pitch needing quite a bit of upgrading, GK and central defence being the main concerns.

Peevemor
12-04-2021, 08:54 AM
I’m not convinced by him, well aware he’s a fair amount behind fitness wise and match sharpness be interesting to see after a full pre season what we get, I just hope we’re not pushing the boat out too much for him if again we’re going for a small squad next season there is other areas of the pitch needing quite a bit of upgrading, GK and central defence being the main concerns.

I'm sort of the same. He looked really impressive in his first match for us, especially considering his lack of games, but IMO he hasn't bettered that performance since.

I'm in no way writing him off and it could well be that a proper pre-season etc. would make a difference, but like you I wouldn't necessarily go breaking the bank to keep him.

JimBHibees
12-04-2021, 09:13 AM
I like him and think that running from midfield is what we need think he should have been played in a couple of times yesterday in the first half. Will be a revelation with a full preseason imo.

Nicho87
12-04-2021, 10:32 AM
I think He’s ok without being outstanding.

I’d rather a Scott Allan we could get consistently 60 minutes out of every week though.

Like another poster has said I wouldn’t be blowing the budget on him I think that should go toward bringing the prodigal son home.

Dmas
12-04-2021, 10:34 AM
I'm sort of the same. He looked really impressive in his first match for us, especially considering his lack of games, but IMO he hasn't bettered that performance since.

I'm in no way writing him off and it could well be that a proper pre-season etc. would make a difference, but like you I wouldn't necessarily go breaking the bank to keep him.

Yeah that first appearance was very impressive if that’s what we’re getting when firing all cylinders then I’m very happy with that but I don’t think he’s got close to that level since.

He’s maybe knackered now it’s not like we’ve had the opportunity to leave him out for a game or 2 I’m not wanting to come across as giving the guy grief just wouldn’t be offering up a 4yr deal that’s all

147lothian
12-04-2021, 10:53 AM
Yeah that first appearance was very impressive if that’s what we’re getting when firing all cylinders then I’m very happy with that but I don’t think he’s got close to that level since.

He’s maybe knackered now it’s not like we’ve had the opportunity to leave him out for a game or 2 I’m not wanting to come across as giving the guy grief just wouldn’t be offering up a 4yr deal that’s all

I agree, his first game he looked like the piece of the jigsaw that was missing it looked like it was starting to take shape, he seemed like exactly what we were missing in midfield, he hasn't really kicked on from then, but I'm putting that down to the amount of time that he was out the game, there is a good player in there IMO and I recon with a full pre-season under his belt, he will be a real asset to the club assuming he is going to sign.

Andy74
12-04-2021, 10:56 AM
I'm sort of the same. He looked really impressive in his first match for us, especially considering his lack of games, but IMO he hasn't bettered that performance since.

I'm in no way writing him off and it could well be that a proper pre-season etc. would make a difference, but like you I wouldn't necessarily go breaking the bank to keep him.

I think there is also a little lesson here in thinking that a certain player or type of player will transform our team.

Before he arrived we had complaints about playing 442 with 2 in the middle, we then lost out on McCrorie who people though would have been a big difference. Irvine was one who we thought we wouldn’t get but was talked up as being another who would be transformative.

He’s a good player but in reality we are no better or no worse than we were when we playing just Newell and Hallberg at times in there. Playing that extra player there you lose something else and it has sometimes been Nisbet or Doidge missing out. Don’t think that really suits the other one who then plays.

Not a slight on Irvine who I’d like to see us keep but probably more a reflection that the others who have been playing were actually doing pretty well.

The Modfather
12-04-2021, 11:51 AM
I think we’re still trying to work out the best combination in midfield. Newell, for all his positive attributes, has has had a negative impact on Irvine since he came back from injury IMO.

Jim44
12-04-2021, 12:15 PM
I'm sort of the same. He looked really impressive in his first match for us, especially considering his lack of games, but IMO he hasn't bettered that performance since.

I'm in no way writing him off and it could well be that a proper pre-season etc. would make a difference, but like you I wouldn't necessarily go breaking the bank to keep him.


I think He’s ok without being outstanding.

I’d rather a Scott Allan we could get consistently 60 minutes out of every week though.

Like another poster has said I wouldn’t be blowing the budget on him I think that should go toward bringing the prodigal son home.


Blowing the budget isn’t in Hibs’ vocabulary but I hope we can offer good enough terms within budget to get both players. I think it’s touch and go in both cases.

Centre Hawf
12-04-2021, 04:00 PM
I think after a good start he's plateaued a little bit. But maybe that's a bit unfair because he does a lot of work we're used to seeing now?

I have no doubt that after a pre season and some additions to the side, he would be a great part of the team. He won't score us 10 goals a season from midfield but his ability to take the ball in tight areas and look after it while also physically being able to put himself about and win it back/mark runners is something we were desperate for and to be honest he's probably the closest thing we've had to replacing John McGinn in terms of those traits.

I certainly think if we were to not keep him we would struggle to find someone that can do a lot of what he can do.

jacomo
12-04-2021, 05:12 PM
I think after a good start he's plateaued a little bit. But maybe that's a bit unfair because he does a lot of work we're used to seeing now?

I have no doubt that after a pre season and some additions to the side, he would be a great part of the team. He won't score us 10 goals a season from midfield but his ability to take the ball in tight areas and look after it while also physically being able to put himself about and win it back/mark runners is something we were desperate for and to be honest he's probably the closest thing we've had to replacing John McGinn in terms of those traits.

I certainly think if we were to not keep him we would struggle to find someone that can do a lot of what he can do.


Agree, although personally I think he’s not performing as he can. Either he’s carrying an injury or his lack of fitness is catching up with him.

J-C
12-04-2021, 06:00 PM
Irvine has been good but not exceptional, was a lack of pre season the problem? I remember him being very decent when he was here before but know little about his time at Hull, I wouldn't make him a top earner but he's worth a decent wage as he adds physicality and is the energetic b2b we've been needing in midfield. I hope we get a deal done for at least another year.

Winston Ingram
13-04-2021, 05:39 AM
I think he’s been outstanding. He’s added the much needed energy our midfield has been lacking.

matty_f
13-04-2021, 07:47 AM
I think there is also a little lesson here in thinking that a certain player or type of player will transform our team.

Before he arrived we had complaints about playing 442 with 2 in the middle, we then lost out on McCrorie who people though would have been a big difference. Irvine was one who we thought we wouldn’t get but was talked up as being another who would be transformative.

He’s a good player but in reality we are no better or no worse than we were when we playing just Newell and Hallberg at times in there. Playing that extra player there you lose something else and it has sometimes been Nisbet or Doidge missing out. Don’t think that really suits the other one who then plays.

Not a slight on Irvine who I’d like to see us keep but probably more a reflection that the others who have been playing were actually doing pretty well.
That’s a good point. :agree:

LeithMike
13-04-2021, 07:52 AM
I think there is also a little lesson here in thinking that a certain player or type of player will transform our team.

Before he arrived we had complaints about playing 442 with 2 in the middle, we then lost out on McCrorie who people though would have been a big difference. Irvine was one who we thought we wouldn’t get but was talked up as being another who would be transformative.

He’s a good player but in reality we are no better or no worse than we were when we playing just Newell and Hallberg at times in there. Playing that extra player there you lose something else and it has sometimes been Nisbet or Doidge missing out. Don’t think that really suits the other one who then plays.

Not a slight on Irvine who I’d like to see us keep but probably more a reflection that the others who have been playing were actually doing pretty well.I disagree completely. I definitely think we've improved having Jackson's mobility and versatility and our midfield is not so easily overrun. I am still not convinced that the balance is right when both Gogic and Newell both play and, if anything, would like another midfielder in the mould of Campbell in there alongside Irvine.

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Since90+2
13-04-2021, 08:03 AM
I disagree completely. I definitely think we've improved having Jackson's mobility and versatility and our midfield is not so easily overrun. I am still not convinced that the balance is right when both Gogic and Newell both play and, if anything, would like another midfielder in the mould of Campbell in there alongside Irvine.

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Agree with that. Irvine has been a major part of our good form since the turn of the year.

J-C
13-04-2021, 09:05 AM
I disagree completely. I definitely think we've improved having Jackson's mobility and versatility and our midfield is not so easily overrun. I am still not convinced that the balance is right when both Gogic and Newell both play and, if anything, would like another midfielder in the mould of Campbell in there alongside Irvine.

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I don't know if it's the tactics at the start of games that means the midfield can be ineffective at times but the 2nd half on Sunday showed when the tempo is raised and we get on the front foot instead of sitting deep, we play a hell of a lot better and become a real threat.

Andy74
13-04-2021, 09:21 AM
I disagree completely. I definitely think we've improved having Jackson's mobility and versatility and our midfield is not so easily overrun. I am still not convinced that the balance is right when both Gogic and Newell both play and, if anything, would like another midfielder in the mould of Campbell in there alongside Irvine.

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We weren't being over run though - are our results much better now than from the start of the season? I think we've been pretty consistent throughout other than a 2 or 3 week spell. We might have chosen to give up numbers in the middle on occasion but that has meant we had strength elsewhere. Some of our best displays like Motherwell and Hamilton away came from playing 442.

I like Irvine, would love to keep him but I don't think he has transformed the team in any meaningful way.

Since452
13-04-2021, 09:26 AM
We've improved with him in the side, no doubts about it. Sometimes I think we put too high an expectation on players. He's been playing catch up remember and this is a highly competitive level of football with good players in it regardless of what folk down south would have you believe. I think he's done well. A good pre season with both him and Scott Allan starting at the same level as everyone else would be fantastic.

The Modfather
13-04-2021, 09:54 AM
We weren't being over run though - are our results much better now than from the start of the season? I think we've been pretty consistent throughout other than a 2 or 3 week spell. We might have chosen to give up numbers in the middle on occasion but that has meant we had strength elsewhere. Some of our best displays like Motherwell and Hamilton away came from playing 442.

I like Irvine, would love to keep him but I don't think he has transformed the team in any meaningful way.

It’s not just Irvine, but the addition of Cadden too, has much improved the shape and balance of the team since January IMO. You can’t argue the fact our results have been fairly consistent over the season. However I felt we were susceptible to teams that had energy and runners in midfield, where we were very static and one paced. I feel that’s less of an issue now but still remnants of midfield issue remain when we have certain combinations playing IMO.

Campbell is one I’d love us to push hard to try and sign. The two home games against Motherwell he was excellent and his energy and getting into the box would be a big asset. He’s got more goals in a struggling Motherwell team this season than anyone outside of Nisbet, Boyle & Doidge. Appreciate it’s only 5 goals, but that’s the kind of numbers we need more of our midfielders to chip in with.

hibee-boys
13-04-2021, 10:05 AM
I don’t know if it’s Irvine but I’m just not been overly impressed by Irvine, Gogic and Newell as a midfield 3. All 3 are competent enough, maybe it’s just the wrong blend, but they never seem to be dictating or dominating the centre ground.

jacomo
13-04-2021, 03:58 PM
It’s not just Irvine, but the addition of Cadden too, has much improved the shape and balance of the team since January IMO. You can’t argue the fact our results have been fairly consistent over the season. However I felt we were susceptible to teams that had energy and runners in midfield, where we were very static and one paced. I feel that’s less of an issue now but still remnants of midfield issue remain when we have certain combinations playing IMO.

Campbell is one I’d love us to push hard to try and sign. The two home games against Motherwell he was excellent and his energy and getting into the box would be a big asset. He’s got more goals in a struggling Motherwell team this season than anyone outside of Nisbet, Boyle & Doidge. Appreciate it’s only 5 goals, but that’s the kind of numbers we need more of our midfielders to chip in with.


We won’t be signing Campbell unless anyone leaves imo.

Big hopes that Magennis can deliver the goods.

J-C
13-04-2021, 04:00 PM
We won’t be signing Campbell unless anyone leaves imo.

Big hopes that Magennis can deliver the goods.


I could see Hallberg leaving, getting very little game time with the odd 10-15 mins here and there.

Peevemor
13-04-2021, 04:07 PM
I could see Hallberg leaving, getting very little game time with the odd 10-15 mins here and there.

I'd honestly forgotten about him on Saturday until i saw him stripped and about to come on.

Unseen work
13-04-2021, 07:45 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CNnN3fpn9Hd/?igshid=1rlhbls1u6dcm

Jackson made a nice wee montage of footage of his time with us.

That’s not including a couple of fantastic assists he’s got/passes he’s made

worcesterhibby
14-04-2021, 08:30 AM
I could see Hallberg leaving, getting very little game time with the odd 10-15 mins here and there.

IF we get in European group football, we will need numbers, and much better to have someone like Hallberg who knows the team and has settled in than bringing someone new in. I think he will get game time next season if he stays, he's not spectacular, but he's dependable and a known quantity, which is valuable in itself.

J-C
14-04-2021, 09:42 AM
IF we get in European group football, we will need numbers, and much better to have someone like Hallberg who knows the team and has settled in than bringing someone new in. I think he will get game time next season if he stays, he's not spectacular, but he's dependable and a known quantity, which is valuable in itself.


I accept that but he can't be happy with his game time, he was fairly dependable before Ross brought in Irvine and he's now just a last 10 min player, I personally think he's a better player than just getting the odd few minutes here and there, technically good with good vision but Ross has his favourites and Newell/Gogic/Irvine seem set in stone no matter how bad any of them play.

Stuart93
14-04-2021, 09:48 AM
I accept that but he can't be happy with his game time, he was fairly dependable before Ross brought in Irvine and he's now just a last 10 min player, I personally think he's a better player than just getting the odd few minutes here and there, technically good with good vision but Ross has his favourites and Newell/Gogic/Irvine seem set in stone no matter how bad any of them play.

Hallbergs pretty average imo, didn’t really influence games enough when he got his chance.

I see him as another Slivka

Fergus52
14-04-2021, 09:55 AM
Hallbergs pretty average imo, didn’t really influence games enough when he got his chance.

I see him as another Slivka

If we're going to be playing two games a week up until christmas next season we'll need steady, dependable backup players.

Would keep hallberg for that reason alone, as he can slot into a number of roles in midfield and do a decent enough job, even if he doesn't do anything special much.

Hibbyradge
14-04-2021, 10:09 AM
Hallbergs pretty average imo, didn’t really influence games enough when he got his chance.

I see him as another Slivka

I agree. He just seems ineffectual.

Stuart93
14-04-2021, 10:56 AM
If we're going to be playing two games a week up until christmas next season we'll need steady, dependable backup players.

Would keep hallberg for that reason alone, as he can slot into a number of roles in midfield and do a decent enough job, even if he doesn't do anything special much.

I’d rather we let hallberg go and bring in better to be honest

You can’t just be sticking average players in the team because you’ve played on the Thursday night or your league form will suffer

Andy74
14-04-2021, 12:06 PM
I’d rather we let hallberg go and bring in better to be honest

You can’t just be sticking average players in the team because you’ve played on the Thursday night or your league form will suffer

I think he’s a good player to have. When he comes in we don’t actually suffer, so he can be relied upon.

CapitalGreen
14-04-2021, 12:35 PM
I think he’s a good player to have. When he comes in we don’t actually suffer, so he can be relied upon.

Thought he did very well when he replaced Gogic on Sunday who had started having a bit of a mare in the second half.

Peevemor
14-04-2021, 12:40 PM
Thought he did very well when he replaced Gogic on Sunday who had started having a bit of a mare in the second half.

Considering the man he replaced had run his box off for 83 minutes it's probably to be expected that he looked a bit fresher.

MrRobot
14-04-2021, 01:13 PM
Id quite like to see a midfield of Hallberg, Newell and Irvine as our 3 to see how they play together. I actually think we looked stronger in midfield when Hallberg was playing regularly.

Fergus52
14-04-2021, 01:16 PM
I’d rather we let hallberg go and bring in better to be honest

You can’t just be sticking average players in the team because you’ve played on the Thursday night or your league form will suffer

If we bring in a player of much higher quality on higher wages, are they gonna be happy sitting on the bench for most games and would it be worth stretching the budget for?

Think you're doing him a bit of disservice, don't think there's anything to show that our league form would suffer particularly if he was playing more matches.

Definitely not the most exciting player but has been instrumental in a few of our best performances and results over the last couple of seasons: Aberdeen at home when Ross first took over, and Motherwell and Hamilton away this season

Iggy Pope
14-04-2021, 02:13 PM
Thought he did very well when he replaced Gogic on Sunday who had started having a bit of a mare in the second half.

Stretched that a bit there. Gogic was Hibs best man Sunday IMO. No disrespect to Hallberg but he got about 10 pretty uneventful minutes.

Unseen work
14-04-2021, 04:09 PM
Id quite like to see a midfield of Hallberg, Newell and Irvine as our 3 to see how they play together. I actually think we looked stronger in midfield when Hallberg was playing regularly.

Hallberg’s a funny one.

He clearly has quality and did have a hell of a lot of potential.

When he first signed I thought he looked brilliant and that was playing in a new position. Once he was allowed further forward I was expecting big things.

When he does play I always think he’s very safe and you know he’ll do a job. Always good physically and looks after the ball, I think his best work is the runs he makes beyond the forwards and how he stretches the game.

He done well earlier in the season when we went to a 442.

From a ‘pure football’ viewpoint, I’d love to try a midfield 3 of Newell, Irvine and Allan. Gogic seems to be so crucial to how we play though, really impressed me this season.

Brooster
14-04-2021, 04:16 PM
Gogic and Irvine are integral to us being much tougher to break down. Newall is also an important cog but just hasn't hit the heights since coming back from injury but he is getting there. 3 very important players.

worcesterhibby
14-04-2021, 04:44 PM
I’d rather we let hallberg go and bring in better to be honest

You can’t just be sticking average players in the team because you’ve played on the Thursday night or your league form will suffer

We are not going to be able to sign fantastic creative midfielders who are mostly on the bench. Hallberg is dependable if unspectacular and is a known quantity. We could get rid, pay more and get less. I always think he looks solid, has good passing ability and actually runs off the ball really well. Technically good player who is generally told to play a boring role and let others to the flash stuff.

Since452
14-04-2021, 05:50 PM
We are not going to be able to sign fantastic creative midfielders who are mostly on the bench. Hallberg is dependable if unspectacular and is a known quantity. We could get rid, pay more and get less. I always think he looks solid, has good passing ability and actually runs off the ball really well. Technically good player who is generally told to play a boring role and let others to the flash stuff.

Yup. We won't get a much better player to come off the bench than Hallberg. It's really a case of him being happy with that or not. He is an important part of a strong squad.

Jim44
14-04-2021, 11:10 PM
Yup. We won't get a much better player to come off the bench than Hallberg. It's really a case of him being happy with that or not. He is an important part of a strong squad.

I go along with this. There’s always talk about players being the first pick etc.etc. In today’s game, there’s room for more than one, often a few players vying for a match day pick. If you’re at a club, which is forward looking, pays reasonable money and you’re content with the way things are run, why wouldn’t you hang around and fight your corner?

BILLYHIBS
15-04-2021, 05:02 AM
I liked Jackson Irvine at Ross County and in the A League but I am not seeing the same player at HIBS

Hopefully he settles in

As it stands I am meh if he stays or goes at the end of the season as I don’t think he will come cheap

Robbo6-2
15-04-2021, 05:35 AM
Hes been excellent since he signed and absolutely no conscidence that are form and mentality has improved since he came in.

He is a leader on and off the park and is a priority signing for next year. Those types are hard to find.

BILLYHIBS
15-04-2021, 07:33 AM
Hes been excellent since he signed and absolutely no conscidence that are form and mentality has improved since he came in.

He is a leader on and off the park and is a priority signing for next year. Those types are hard to find.

Just watched the full 90 minutes versus The Rangers again he definitely put in a full shift until being hooked and his best game to date

I still do not think he is at full capacity yet maybe with the benefit of a full preseason

I would like to see him more productive with the ball going forward a goal on Sunday would be nice :greengrin

Smartie
15-04-2021, 07:49 AM
Irvine is an excellent player and has improved us since he came - quite a lot imo.

It’s actually getting a bit harder to pinpoint where Hibs can improve. Without getting many goals from midfield, we expect a lot of our strikers. If they’re out of form, which both have been for decent chunks of this season, it piles pressure on us, so we need another striker.

When Murphy is fit and in form the left attacking position is sorted, but he rarely is, so we might need something else there.

Whilst the midfield doesn’t always convince, I’m happy with the personnel there and wouldn’t be in a rush to lose anyone. I think we just need to persevere until we get the right blend and give folk a chance to play together to figure out each other’s games. If we get all those European games next season we may well need a big squad to remain competitive on all fronts and our decent peripheral players there (Hallberg, Allan, Magennis) may end up proving invaluable.

I think Porteous’ head is elsewhere and he’ll be off, but I don’t think he’ll be all that irreplaceable as for me he’s turned out a bit Jordon Forster. McGregor will be another year older, so we’ll probably need to bolster the middle of defence.

It’ll then be down to whether or not we manage to hang onto the likes of Doig and Nisbet and whether we can replace them with similar quality if they do leave. Nisbet was very hot at the start of the season, was cold for a while but good again at the weekend so hopefully he’s going to end the season strongly and look more like a player who’d be hard to replace than easy. Doig’s emergence has been a bit of a bonus but he’s a cracking player who would be tricky to replace. Even Boyle might fancy a move and would probably be the hardest of our players to replace.

J-C
15-04-2021, 06:51 PM
Irvine is an excellent player and has improved us since he came - quite a lot imo.

It’s actually getting a bit harder to pinpoint where Hibs can improve. Without getting many goals from midfield, we expect a lot of our strikers. If they’re out of form, which both have been for decent chunks of this season, it piles pressure on us, so we need another striker.

When Murphy is fit and in form the left attacking position is sorted, but he rarely is, so we might need something else there.

Whilst the midfield doesn’t always convince, I’m happy with the personnel there and wouldn’t be in a rush to lose anyone. I think we just need to persevere until we get the right blend and give folk a chance to play together to figure out each other’s games. If we get all those European games next season we may well need a big squad to remain competitive on all fronts and our decent peripheral players there (Hallberg, Allan, Magennis) may end up proving invaluable.

I think Porteous’ head is elsewhere and he’ll be off, but I don’t think he’ll be all that irreplaceable as for me he’s turned out a bit Jordon Forster. McGregor will be another year older, so we’ll probably need to bolster the middle of defence.

It’ll then be down to whether or not we manage to hang onto the likes of Doig and Nisbet and whether we can replace them with similar quality if they do leave. Nisbet was very hot at the start of the season, was cold for a while but good again at the weekend so hopefully he’s going to end the season strongly and look more like a player who’d be hard to replace than easy. Doig’s emergence has been a bit of a bonus but he’s a cracking player who would be tricky to replace. Even Boyle might fancy a move and would probably be the hardest of our players to replace.


We may regret offering Murphy a 1 yr deal, he's managed only 17 league games and 5 cup games with just 2 goals, I just can't see him managing any more than this net season.

Boyle has only just signed an extension in August, so can't see him going anywhere.

Iggy Pope
16-04-2021, 12:51 AM
Irvine is an excellent player and has improved us since he came - quite a lot imo.

It’s actually getting a bit harder to pinpoint where Hibs can improve. Without getting many goals from midfield, we expect a lot of our strikers. If they’re out of form, which both have been for decent chunks of this season, it piles pressure on us, so we need another striker.

When Murphy is fit and in form the left attacking position is sorted, but he rarely is, so we might need something else there.

Whilst the midfield doesn’t always convince, I’m happy with the personnel there and wouldn’t be in a rush to lose anyone. I think we just need to persevere until we get the right blend and give folk a chance to play together to figure out each other’s games. If we get all those European games next season we may well need a big squad to remain competitive on all fronts and our decent peripheral players there (Hallberg, Allan, Magennis) may end up proving invaluable.

I think Porteous’ head is elsewhere and he’ll be off, but I don’t think he’ll be all that irreplaceable as for me he’s turned out a bit Jordon Forster. McGregor will be another year older, so we’ll probably need to bolster the middle of defence.

It’ll then be down to whether or not we manage to hang onto the likes of Doig and Nisbet and whether we can replace them with similar quality if they do leave. Nisbet was very hot at the start of the season, was cold for a while but good again at the weekend so hopefully he’s going to end the season strongly and look more like a player who’d be hard to replace than easy. Doig’s emergence has been a bit of a bonus but he’s a cracking player who would be tricky to replace. Even Boyle might fancy a move and would probably be the hardest of our players to replace.

Fir me, I think Jordon would donate a baw to turn out a bit Ryan Porteous.

flash
16-04-2021, 05:58 AM
Fir me, I think Jordon would donate a baw to turn out a bit Ryan Porteous.

Absolutely. The comparison is beyond ridicule.

CMurdoch
16-04-2021, 02:30 PM
Porteous is a young guy who continues to progress. He is blessed with all the attributes of a very good centre half.
When he started he was very good but too aggressive at the wrong times and as a result caused himself nasty injuries. Needed to exercise the muscle between his ears more often. He has come back strong and all but removed the impetuous aspects whilst retaining the aggression.

Has made lots of mistakes this season not concentrating for the whole game, getting under the ball and clearing the ball to dangerous in play positions however, I saw an interview with him and he is aware of this and is working on it and I expect him to improve these aspects of his game as he did with the aggression issue.
All aspects of his game were good against Rangers on Sunday and if he can bring that to every game next season he will have removed the final impediment to a big move for lots of money. £1 million offer from Milwall wasn't nearly enough cash and from a bollocks team. Another season and £3 million will be the asking price and the suitors will be more appropriate to his ability.

Vault Boy
16-04-2021, 02:35 PM
https://youtu.be/X9dZFvksU2M

:greengrin

Forza Fred
17-04-2021, 01:57 AM
I liked Jackson Irvine at Ross County and in the A League but I am not seeing the same player at HIBS

Hopefully he settles in

As it stands I am meh if he stays or goes at the end of the season as I don’t think he will come cheap


I'm no sure Jackson played in the A League Billy.

If he did I can't remember it.

I know he was on Melbourne books for two years in his youth, but don't think he played for the big team...could be wrong....usually am, and I'm sure somebody will be along soon enough....etc etc..

I agree though, that there is much more to come from him, if he signs for next year that is....

basehibby
17-04-2021, 04:10 AM
Hallbergs pretty average imo, didn’t really influence games enough when he got his chance.

I see him as another Slivka

I think Hallberg's an upgrade on Slivka - a much more tidy and consistent player. V high passing average and can take set pieces as well. Knows how to defend and makes runs into the box too. He's a good all rounder and I think a bit underrated

BILLYHIBS
17-04-2021, 07:09 AM
I'm no sure Jackson played in the A League Billy.

If he did I can't remember it.

I know he was on Melbourne books for two years in his youth, but don't think he played for the big team...could be wrong....usually am, and I'm sure somebody will be along soon enough....etc etc..

I agree though, that there is much more to come from him, if he signs for next year that is....
:agree:

My bad

Talking pish as usual

Cannae be right all the time :greengrin

Onwards to tomorrow

GGTTH

Forza Fred
17-04-2021, 10:12 AM
:agree:

My bad

Talking pish as usual

Cannae be right all the time :greengrin

Onwards to tomorrow

GGTTH

I took it you meant playing with the Socceroos...he has had a lot of visibility doing that.