Guards of honour (some Hibs content)

[G B Young]

I note Brendan Rodgers has called on Celtic to form a guard of honour for Rangers at the Old Firm Game:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56402349

Probably a good time to do it bearing in mind there will be no crowd there as in normal circumstances the home fans would be booing the place down.

Think this may have been discussed before but what are people's thoughts on this? Would you be OK with Hibs forming a guard of honour for Hearts in similar circumstances? IIRC we didn't do it when they won the Championship a few years back.

Not directly related to guards of honour, but one incident I do recall when I thought Hibs got it badly wrong was when we won the League Cup in 2007 and decided to parade the trophy around the ground AFTER the next week's derby against Hearts. That would have been OK had we won (or at least not lost) the game but we ended up losing 1-0 in a truly dreadful match and by the time the trophy was brought out there weren't many fans left to see it. I've always thought we were far too polite that day and instead should have had the team running out holding the trophy before the game instead.

[Bostonhibby]

I wouldn't want Hibs doing it for Hearts but as a compromise I'd be prepared to see names of Hearts creditors being drawn from a hat and invited to stand on either side of the line whilst the thieves walked down the middle.

Everyone's a winner.


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[Sir David Gray]

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest to be honest.

[500miles]

Don't get the mentality of kissing your opponents backside before playing them. I'd rather be hostile from the start.

[nonshinyfinish]

If it's an established tradition in your league then I think you should suck it up and do it even against your archrival. If said rival is just trying to big it up as a tradition to force you into it, invite them to fling s**** at themselves.

I may be wrong, but I don't see guards of honour as a long-standing tradition in Scotland. Probably difficult to find out, but it would be interesting to see how often it's happened in, say, the last 20 years.

[Logie Green]

I note Brendan Rodgers has called on Celtic to form a guard of honour for Rangers at the Old Firm Game:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56402349

Probably a good time to do it bearing in mind there will be no crowd there as in normal circumstances the home fans would be booing the place down.

Think this may have been discussed before but what are people's thoughts on this? Would you be OK with Hibs forming a guard of honour for Hearts in similar circumstances? IIRC we didn't do it when they won the Championship a few years back.

Not directly related to guards of honour, but one incident I do recall when I thought Hibs got it badly wrong was when we won the League Cup in 2007 and decided to parade the trophy around the ground AFTER the next week's derby against Hearts. That would have been OK had we won (or at least not lost) the game but we ended up losing 1-0 in a truly dreadful match and by the time the trophy was brought out there weren't many fans left to see it. I've always thought we were far too polite that day and instead should have had the team running out holding the trophy before the game instead.

I think it was a police decision not to allow Hibs to show the League Cup before the match.

I think the police also stopped us showing it against them after we won it in 1991. However it was deemed acceptable to have a minutes silence for Mercer when we played them at their tip.

[Moulin Yarns]

I note Brendan Rodgers has called on Celtic to form a guard of honour for Rangers at the Old Firm Game:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56402349

Probably a good time to do it bearing in mind there will be no crowd there as in normal circumstances the home fans would be booing the place down.

Think this may have been discussed before but what are people's thoughts on this? Would you be OK with Hibs forming a guard of honour for Hearts in similar circumstances? IIRC we didn't do it when they won the Championship a few years back.

Not directly related to guards of honour, but one incident I do recall when I thought Hibs got it badly wrong was when we won the League Cup in 2007 and decided to parade the trophy around the ground AFTER the next week's derby against Hearts. That would have been OK had we won (or at least not lost) the game but we ended up losing 1-0 in a truly dreadful match and by the time the trophy was brought out there weren't many fans left to see it. I've always thought we were far too polite that day and instead should have had the team running out holding the trophy before the game instead.

Regards to 2007, the hearts fans refused to leave the ground, delaying the parade of the cup.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

When did the whole guard of honour thing start? Must only be the last ten years or so

[Gloucester Hibs]

Hearts wanted us to do it for the derby after they won the championship in 2015 (the Farid and Jase 2-0 one) but we refused IIRC. Was a nonsense anyway as it wasn’t even the game immediately after they won the league

[hibbysam]

Don’t want ‘guard of honours’ anywhere near our game, more suited to the nicey nicey sanitised English game. Up here I still want us all to hate each other come derby day. I don’t even think there’s a Rangers fan who will want it other than for hilarity factors.

[G B Young]

I think it was a police decision not to allow Hibs to show the League Cup before the match.

I think the police also stopped us showing it against them after we won it in 1991. However it was deemed acceptable to have a minutes silence for Mercer when we played them at their tip.

Ah, OK. I wasn't aware of that, or had forgotten. Seems odd as I'm pretty sure clubs get to raise the championship flag ahead of the opening match of the season when they win the title? And would the police really be able to impose such a ruling?

Might be wrong but I think I've seen pics of Hibs bringing the League Cup out with them when they played Ayr the week after winning it in 1972 (they beat Ayr 8-1 that day). Maybe depends who you're playing when it comes to such gestures (ie too inflammatory if you're playing Hearts but OK if you're playing Ayr).

Re guards of honour, I just checked and Raith gave us one after we won the Championship:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/924082/hibs-3-raith-rovers-2-james-keatings-hits-last-gasp-winner-for-the-champions-at-easter-road/

[danhibees1875]

Hearts wanted us to do it for the derby after they won the championship in 2015 (the Farid and Jase 2-0 one) but we refused IIRC. Was a nonsense anyway as it wasn’t even the game immediately after they won the league

That was my recollection. :agree: Hearts seemed want a guard of honour every weekend for some reason.

I think we also refused against rangers the following year - not sure but I think that might have been the game immediately after they had secured the league. I'd be inclined to say we should have done it then, and Celtic should do so this weekend.

However that's only based on it being something that seems like has become "the right thing to do". An option to just never do them would be fine also.

[1875Sean]

I don’t mind it the first game after the title Ben’s confirmed but not a fan on the champions expecting it on every game after

[CentreLine]

First game after winning a league not cup the winners should be afforded a guard of honour IMO. After all sportsmen should show respect to each other and the endeavours of their opponent. After that it’s done.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think it was a police decision not to allow Hibs to show the League Cup before the match.

I think the police also stopped us showing it against them after we won it in 1991. However it was deemed acceptable to have a minutes silence for Mercer when we played them at their tip.

That's the best minutes silence i have ever been at. :thumbsup:

[MWHIBBIES]

That was my recollection. :agree: Hearts seemed want a guard of honour every weekend for some reason.

I think we also refused against rangers the following year - not sure but I think that might have been the game immediately after they had secured the league. I'd be inclined to say we should have done it then, and Celtic should do so this weekend.

However that's only based on it being something that seems like has become "the right thing to do". An option to just never do them would be fine also.

Not a chance. We beat Rangers easily that night, and then again a month later. Thats what we should do, not a bloody guard of honor.

[Smartie]

They should establish a protocol and stick to it.

Fair to me sounds like the week after the league is clinched, the league winners are clapped onto the pitch. No more, no less. You can deal with that.

It's a weird tradition though, one that I have no great desire to be part of, and seems to take on extra significance amongst the inadequate weirdos who follow clubs like Hearts and Rangers. When we won the Championship I had no desire to see Hibs applauded onto the park by players of QotS or the like and wouldn't have got remotely hot under the collar had they refused to do so. In the unlikely event that we ever win the league would I genuinely care about Hibs being clapped on to the pitch by Rangers, Celtic, Hearts or anyone else? No, not at all.

It's a bit of a pointless, fabricated flashpoint created in order to allow people to get angry about insignificant nonsense.

I can see why helmets who like to think of themselves as superior to others might think differently though.

[Logie Green]

Ah, OK. I wasn't aware of that, or had forgotten. Seems odd as I'm pretty sure clubs get to raise the championship flag ahead of the opening match of the season when they win the title? And would the police really be able to impose such a ruling?

Might be wrong but I think I've seen pics of Hibs bringing the League Cup out with them when they played Ayr the week after winning it in 1972 (they beat Ayr 8-1 that day). Maybe depends who you're playing when it comes to such gestures (ie too inflammatory if you're playing Hearts but OK if you're playing Ayr).

Re guards of honour, I just checked and Raith gave us one after we won the Championship:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/924082/hibs-3-raith-rovers-2-james-keatings-hits-last-gasp-winner-for-the-champions-at-easter-road/

Yes it probably depends which team is visiting. Also I think Easter Road and Tynecastle were under the control of different divisions of Lothian and Borders Police so there could be differences in outlook and the way events were policed.

Of course in 1991 hertz hadn’t seen silverware since 1962 so bringing out a cup adorned with green and white ribbons might’ve tipped the six fingered, banjo-playing ********s over the edge. 🤡

[hibbysam]

Not a chance. We beat Rangers easily that night, and then again a month later. Thats what we should do, not a bloody guard of honor.

Exactly.

[Carheenlea]

I think giving Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen a “guard of honour” for the first fixture after winning their European Trophies would have been an appropriate occasion. League titles just feels a bit lame, particularly for a two horse race this year in the Premier league, or the one horse race during most of Celtics last 9.

[greenlex]

It’s a lot of old Pish.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Always felt better suited to rugby to me. I like the tribal aspect of football so don't care much for them.

[MyJo]

It's a nonsense and shouldn't be done ever.

[Onion]

It's a nonsense, designed to make the financial privileged feel good about themselves and give them an inflated sense of importance.

Opponents should instead be able to fling Victoria Sponges at the title winning players as they enter the field of play.

[CL0762]

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

What did bother me was Hearts getting all worked up about it because we never done it. They’d had it for about 3/4 games prior to playing us.

Weirdos

[FilipinoHibs]

Yes it is a mixed bag and controversial. I remember Leeds getting one at Anfield in the early 70s and the Kop giving them a standing ovation. Rangers did refuse 2 years ago.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11336825/what-is-a-guard-of-honour-is-it-compulsory-who-has-had-one

[PatHead]

Load of *****. Players get to celebrate with their own fans then a medal and a bonus. What else do they need?

[Lancs Harp]

IMO its pointless and just seems to court controversy. Why bother?

[Jones28]

Pretty petty stuff imo.

[Monts]

Its the kind of thing that is a great gesture when offered by the opponents to the champions, but in no way should be demanded.

Its like going to a restaurant and being given a free dessert because its your birthday. You don't go back in next time and demand another free dessert.

[oneone73]

Its the kind of thing that is a great gesture when offered by the opponents to the champions, but in no way should be demanded.

Its like going to a restaurant and being given a free dessert because its your birthday. You don't go back in next time and demand another free dessert.

Kris Boyd does.

[Halmyre Hibee]

Can’t remember many guards of honour at Easter Road in a competitive game other than Hibs giving Airdrie one in the mid 70’s for reaching the Scottish Cup Final.

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Yes it is a mixed bag and controversial. I remember Leeds getting one at Anfield in the early 70s and the Kop giving them a standing ovation. Rangers did refuse 2 years ago.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11336825/what-is-a-guard-of-honour-is-it-compulsory-who-has-had-one

Did they refuse to give celtic one? I genuinely don't remember that

Well there's no chance on them getting one then

[AndyM_1875]

Seem to recall seeing Barca having to give one to Real Madrid after they had won La Liga in about 2008 or so and the fixtures fell with Barca going to the Bernebau the game after the league was secured.
It had an effect that Barca went out the next season and wiped the floor with Madrid.

Since then both Madrid and Barca have had the opportunity to do a guard of honour for each other and both have refused.

[JeMeSouviens]

Loadypish.

Apart from anything else, when did either version of the Huns have any honour? :rolleyes:

[heretoday]

Seems like the sporting thing to do - if that means anything any more.

[Bobby Moore]

I remember the Hibs team giving a guard of honour to Aberdeen at Pittodrie in 1983 after they had won the European Cup Winners Cup in the previous midweek.
They showed their appreciation by beating us 5-0. Dundee Utd won the League that day.

[Logie Green]

I remember the Hibs team giving a guard of honour to Aberdeen at Pittodrie in 1983 after they had won the European Cup Winners Cup in the previous midweek.
They showed their appreciation by beating us 5-0. Dundee Utd won the League that day.

The guard of honour was the closest some Hibs players got to the Aberdeen players that day. 🤦*♂️

[FilipinoHibs]

Everybody deserves
A guard if honour unless they are Sevco, Celtic, Hearts or Aberdeen.

[GreenCastle]

When did club start doing guards of honour ?

Does anyone know if either Old Firm team has given another team a guard of honour or given the other set of Old Firm one after winning the league?

Personally think it’s nonsense and the Old Firm winning the league in Scotland isn’t exactly an achievement considering resources.

The only possible time I could see it being appreciated is something remarkable like a European cup win etc. But even Celtic doing the treble numerous times no one really cared except them.