Free money

[hibbyboy1]

The betting for hibs to finish 3rd is 30/100 with bet 365. Put 1000 to win 1300. Aberdeen with sky bet to finish 3rd is 5/1 so put 220 on you win 1320. So for 1220 you either win 100 or 80. Free money

[NC1875]

Or Livingston finish 3rd and you lose it all

[Killiehibbie]

The betting for hibs to finish 3rd is 30/100 with bet 365. Put 1000 to win 1300. Aberdeen with sky bet to finish 3rd is 5/1 so put 220 on you win 1320. So for 1220 you either win 100 or 80. Free money


You'd be lucky to get that amount on with Skybet.

[Since90+2]

Or Livingston finish 3rd and you lose it all

That's not going to happen.

[NC1875]

And we are actually 1/8 to finish 3rd

[Hibbyradge]

The betting for hibs to finish 3rd is 30/100 with bet 365. Put 1000 to win 1300. Aberdeen with sky bet to finish 3rd is 5/1 so put 220 on you win 1320. So for 1220 you either win 100 or 80. Free money

I'm going to wait until we lose to Livingston next week and take evens. :wink:

[hibbyboy1]

And we are actually 1/8 to finish 3rd
Not with bet 365 30/100

[Killiehibbie]

And we are actually 1/8 to finish 3rd

30/100 still up on Bet365

[Speedy]

1/3 at Hills

[inglisavhibs]

1/3 at Hills
These were the odds before we won yesterday. If the bookies have not changed then that’s their fault.🤔

[SaulGoodman]

I long for the day I have £1220 to be sticking on bets :greengrin

[Iggy Pope]

I long for the day I have £1220 to be sticking on bets :greengrin

It does seem extreme, especially to (potentially) accrue £80 without any guarantee.....

[Since452]

If the day ever came where I bet a grand on anything I'd be asking questions of myself

[Wilson]

If the day ever came where I bet a grand on anything I'd be asking questions of myself

Aye, what to do with the rest of your lottery winnings!

[Northernhibee]

It does seem extreme, especially to (potentially) accrue £80 without any guarantee.....

Whenever I see things like this and it doesn't involve Hibs coming out of it worse off, I hope for the 1% chance that Livingston or the equivalent finish third.

Setting yourself to gain £80 with a risk of losing £1,220 is daft.

I remember seeing a story several years back of an online betting website where you could not only place bets, but put up your own odds for a certain scenario. In a horse race with two fences left to go, someone put up something like 500/1 for the horse that was running in third with two fences to go to win. Someone took them up for £20 on it and the horses in first and second were taken out in the last two fences. He tried to get out of it but the other person - quite rightly IMO - chased it through legal action.

[Speedy]

Whenever I see things like this and it doesn't involve Hibs coming out of it worse off, I hope for the 1% chance that Livingston or the equivalent finish third.

Setting yourself to gain £80 with a risk of losing £1,220 is daft.

I remember seeing a story several years back of an online betting website where you could not only place bets, but put up your own odds for a certain scenario. In a horse race with two fences left to go, someone put up something like 500/1 for the horse that was running in third with two fences to go to win. Someone took them up for £20 on it and the horses in first and second were taken out in the last two fences. He tried to get out of it but the other person - quite rightly IMO - chased it through legal action.

You can do that on betfair

[Speedy]

These were the odds before we won yesterday. If the bookies have not changed then that’s their fault.🤔

Well you'd think so but unfortunately they can back out of it.

If you fancy hibs then 1/3 is a great bet. But I wouldn't be sticking big money on Aberdeen on the assumption the 1/3 Hibs is honoured.

[Northernhibee]

Well you'd think so but unfortunately they can back out of it.

If you fancy hibs then 1/3 is a great bet. But I wouldn't be sticking big money on Aberdeen on the assumption the 1/3 Hibs is honoured.

:agree:

The bookies are ****. There's very little holding them to paying out a bet if they don't want to, and there's a distinct lack of real authority in regulating betting sites if they turn against you.

Punting hundreds or thousands on a bet is just asking to be up **** creek at a later date.

[mayo hibee]

The best free money going this year was betting on Trump to lose the election after the election was over. There was a constant stream of punters tripping over themselves to take 10/1 on Trump winning on the Betfair exchange for weeks after the results were counted. Couldn't understand it at the time but was happy to take the free cash. Only realised on January 6th that it was QAnon nutjobs that had been handing over their money. Made it even sweeter to be honest.

Anyway back to football - there is free money in these kind of either way bets if you're patient enough to trawl through betting websites to find them. By all means take this up if it's on offer, Livingston won't be coming third.

[McSwanky]

Incidentally, you can get Livi for 100/1 on Skybet, £13 on that as well if you're ultra cautious...

[magnificent_seven]

You can back Hibs, Aberdeen and Livingston - this is “dutching”

Best odds for the following:

Hibs - 1.33 (William Hill)
Aberdeen - 6.0 (Betvictor)
Livingston - 81.0 (10Bet)

You can google dutching calculators which tell you exactly how much to stake on each. For each £100 staked over the 3 teams - you can guarantee just over £7 profit.

[Rosco86]

Nobody worried about Celtic dropping into 3rd and ruining the bet then...?

[Hibee Mac]

Your balance of risk and reward is thoroughly broken my friend.

All for £80? [emoji23]

[magnificent_seven]

Nobody worried about Celtic dropping into 3rd and ruining the bet then...?

These prices are in the “without Celtic and Rangers” market, so Celtic falling into 3rd wouldn’t affect the bet.

[franck sauzee]

Your balance of risk and reward is thoroughly broken my friend.

All for £80? [emoji23]

Livi are 12 behind with 18 to play for and 14 goals worse off. The only team in the league capable of that kind of run are Rangers

[franck sauzee]

The best free money going this year was betting on Trump to lose the election after the election was over. There was a constant stream of punters tripping over themselves to take 10/1 on Trump winning on the Betfair exchange for weeks after the results were counted. Couldn't understand it at the time but was happy to take the free cash. Only realised on January 6th that it was QAnon nutjobs that had been handing over their money. Made it even sweeter to be honest.

Anyway back to football - there is free money in these kind of either way bets if you're patient enough to trawl through betting websites to find them. By all means take this up if it's on offer, Livingston won't be coming third.

That was crazy. Hundreds of thousands queued up at 1.1 when he'd lost the election. I had £1k on it but bottled it to go any higher in case there was some mental loophole I didn't know about

[seanshow]

This offsetting bet thing is close to those doing the matched betting,(I know there are a few on here).
Difference being one side of the bet is a free offer from the bookie so your guaranteed a return on every bet.
I'm not a gambler but I did give it a go about 3 years ago and made £500 exploiting free bets( the only downside was opening and then closing down accounts to about 10 online bookies)

[Danderhall Hibs]

Your balance of risk and reward is thoroughly broken my friend.

All for £80? [emoji23]

I might’ve missed the point but isn’t the point here that there’s very little risk involved?

[Gloucester Hibs]

I might’ve missed the point but isn’t the point here that there’s very little risk involved?

True, more like a sound short term investment. I’d be petrified though that after I’d got the first part of the bet on (the Hibs part) the odds on Aberdeen shifted negatively thus scuppering the whole thing 😱

[hibbyboy1]

Is there not professional gamblers out there looking for these kind of bets, and put 10x on to make £800/£1000

[hibbysam]

True, more like a sound short term investment. I’d be petrified though that after I’d got the first part of the bet on (the Hibs part) the odds on Aberdeen shifted negatively thus scuppering the whole thing 😱

Would likely go the other way, if huge bets came in for Hibs, Aberdeen should go out the way.

[Killiehibbie]

Is there not professional gamblers out there looking for these kind of bets, and put 10x on to make £800/£1000

The most out of line prices ever was when the major bookies first started taking bets on Junior games. I knew 3 guys who placed themselves in Ladbrokes, Hills and Freddie Williams shops and got between 5 and 15% profit on a few games every week.

[magnificent_seven]

Is there not professional gamblers out there looking for these kind of bets, and put 10x on to make £800/£1000

There will be professional punters looking for these but bookies can be extremely stingy on winning accounts. I have been matched betting for years and they will immediately stake restrict accounts which are in decent profit. Therefore, if these professional gamblers are any good - they would be lucky to be allowed to stake high enough amounts to turn a profit of £800-£1000.

[WhileTheChief..]

Whenever I see things like this and it doesn't involve Hibs coming out of it worse off, I hope for the 1% chance that Livingston or the equivalent finish third.

Setting yourself to gain £80 with a risk of losing £1,220 is daft.

I remember seeing a story several years back of an online betting website where you could not only place bets, but put up your own odds for a certain scenario. In a horse race with two fences left to go, someone put up something like 500/1 for the horse that was running in third with two fences to go to win. Someone took them up for £20 on it and the horses in first and second were taken out in the last two fences. He tried to get out of it but the other person - quite rightly IMO - chased it through legal action.

You want a fellow Hibs fan that posts on here to lose over £1k?? Nice.

[Speedy]

I might’ve missed the point but isn’t the point here that there’s very little risk involved?

The biggest risk imo isn't Livi finishing 3rd. It is putting £x on Aberdeen at one site, then putting enough on at another site at 1/3 to cover your £x on Aberdeen - then the bookie comes along saying sorry didn’t mean to give you 1/3, it's actually 1/7 so you can take the bet at that odds or have your money back.

Then suddenly you're out of pocket unless Aberdeen get 3rd, or you risk more to cover the gap on a Hibs win.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The biggest risk imo isn't Livi finishing 3rd. It is putting £x on Aberdeen at one site, then putting enough on at another site at 1/3 to cover your £x on Aberdeen - then the bookie comes along saying sorry didn’t mean to give you 1/3, it's actually 1/7 so you can take the bet at that odds or have your money back.

Then suddenly you're out of pocket unless Aberdeen get 3rd, or you risk more to cover the gap on a Hibs win.

I didn’t realise bookies can chop and change the odds after you’ve taken a bet - if that’s the case then clearly there’s a big risk and no one in their right mind would enter that type of contract.

[Northernhibee]

You want a fellow Hibs fan that posts on here to lose over £1k?? Nice.

What?

I advise against “matched” betting as bookies can withdraw bets or odds at will. I advise against going into high risk wagers for little reward as it can easily lead to finding yourself out of pocket from what seems a no lose scenario.

What planet are you on exactly?

[franck sauzee]

I didn’t realise bookies can chop and change the odds after you’ve taken a bet - if that’s the case then clearly there’s a big risk and no one in their right mind would enter that type of contract.

They can't unless it's a palpable error. Like putting odds of 70/1 instead of 7/1 because someone has keyed the odds in wrong and it's clearly a mistake. A difference of 1/3 and 1/7 isn't a palp. Bookies fault for not changing their odds they don't take kindly to this however and will likely restrict or even at times close your account. They would honour the bet and return your balance and winnings however

[WhileTheChief..]

Whenever I see things like this and it doesn't involve Hibs coming out of it worse off, I hope for the 1% chance that Livingston or the equivalent finish third.

Planet Earth.

[Northernhibee]

Planet Earth.

“And it doesn’t involve Hibs coming out of it worse off”.

The moon.

And do you know how you don’t find yourself a grand down? Don’t put a grand into an industry that takes people for mugs.

[WhileTheChief..]

:top marks

[calumhibee1]

do you know how you don’t find yourself a grand down? Don’t put a grand into an industry that takes people for mugs.

:agree:

A horrible industry that the world would be better without.

[Northernhibee]

:agree:

A horrible industry that the world would be better without.

There are scores of stories of people who think they’ve won a bet, go to a bookies and they use one of many loopholes to get out of it.

“Free money” is wildly misleading. It’s “risk a four figure sum to potentially gain a two figure sum”.

Mugs game, defended by mugs.

[WhileTheChief..]

There are scores of stories of people who think they’ve won a bet, go to a bookies and they use one of many loopholes to get out of it.

“Free money” is wildly misleading. It’s “risk a four figure sum to potentially gain a two figure sum”.

Mugs game, defended by mugs.

Agree with that but I don’t see how you can go from that view to wanting a punter to lose and the bookie to win? It’s the opposite of what you said before no?

[Northernhibee]

Agree with that but I don’t see how you can go from that view to wanting a punter to lose and the bookie to win? It’s the opposite of what you said before no?

I want the punter to not place the bet in the first place.

[blackpoolhibs]

Ok thats me in for the £1220.

[Hibbyradge]

Ok thats me in for the £1220.

If I go with £2440, will I definitely win £160?

[blackpoolhibs]

If I go with £2440, will I definitely win £160?

Go for it bud, it's free money. :greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Go for it bud, it's free money. :greengrin

🤑🤑🤑

[Northernhibee]

If I go with £2440, will I definitely win £160?

If the OP guarantees you your losses back (which I’m sure they will seeing as how it’s free money), go for it 😉

[Hibbyradge]

If the OP guarantees you your losses back (which I’m sure they will seeing as how it’s free money), go for it 😉

Patience!

I'm flogging loads of stuff on Gumtree and FB Market trying to raise enough to win £320.

[hibbysam]

If the OP guarantees you your losses back (which I’m sure they will seeing as how it’s free money), go for it 😉

What losses? The only way a bookie can get out of it is if it’s a clear error. The fact a few bookies were similar odds means they can’t and wouldn’t. The ombudsman would have it paid out in an instant as negligence isn’t a cop out for the bookie.

If you think Livi will finish third then fair do’s, I’d happily give someone unlimited odds on it as there’s no chance of it happening.

[Northernhibee]

What losses? The only way a bookie can get out of it is if it’s a clear error. The fact a few bookies were similar odds means they can’t and wouldn’t. The ombudsman would have it paid out in an instant as negligence isn’t a cop out for the bookie.

If you think Livi will finish third then fair do’s, I’d happily give someone unlimited odds on it as there’s no chance of it happening.

If you go against any T&Cs of a bookies they can refuse pay out (I hope you’ve read every word of all the T&Cs you’ve signed up for) or they can claim an error in either the odds or even in accepting the bet. None are that too difficult to argue.

If it really is no risk free money then I’m sure someone will be happy to guarantee you your £1.3k or however much it is back 😉

I’ll level with you - I’ve seen bookies take £70-80k off one of my mates in the past few years to the point I’ve had to pay a couple of bills for him to avoid them escalate to court. Every time he’s close to getting clean there’s another advert on the telly, it’s not hard for him to get around the self exclusion and he’s back at it. Lost patience with him but not lost patience with trying to stop others getting into a similar mess. Titles like “free money” when it comes to trusting over a grand to a moral free industry to win eighty quid are red rag to a bull.

There’s no such thing as “risk free” with bookmakers. Never.

[hibbysam]

If you go against any T&Cs of a bookies they can refuse pay out (I hope you’ve read every word of all the T&Cs you’ve signed up for) or they can claim an error in either the odds or even in accepting the bet. None are that too difficult to argue.

If it really is no risk free money then I’m sure someone will be happy to guarantee you your £1.3k or however much it is back 😉

I’ll level with you - I’ve seen bookies take £70-80k off one of my mates in the past few years to the point I’ve had to pay a couple of bills for him to avoid them escalate to court. Every time he’s close to getting clean there’s another advert on the telly, it’s not hard for him to get around the self exclusion and he’s back at it. Lost patience with him but not lost patience with trying to stop others getting into a similar mess. Titles like “free money” when it comes to trusting over a grand to a moral free industry to win eighty quid are red rag to a bull.

There’s no such thing as “risk free” with bookmakers. Never.

Their bets are regulated though. Their morals are to an extent but very little is done. I agree that it’s a filthy business, I can guarantee you that the bookie wouldn’t have an out on these bets though as it’s not an obvious error and the ombudsman would have it paid out.

[hibbyboy1]

Prices have got better only need to to bet 800 to win 100, 700 on hibs 2/7 with bet365 returns 900. 100 on Aberdeen at 8/1 with sky bet returns 900

[Big_Franck]

Prices have got better only need to to bet 800 to win 100, 700 on hibs 2/7 with bet365 returns 900. 100 on Aberdeen at 8/1 with sky bet returns 900

Skybet seem to be limiting stakes on Aberdeen to £62.50 when I add it to my betslip. And that's not my deposit limit.

[Hibee Mac]

I might’ve missed the point but isn’t the point here that there’s very little risk involved?Anyone who tells you that sticking £1000 on the bookies in order to win £80 is risk free just hasn't been stung yet.

Yes you might think you've thought of everything and you might come off better a few times, but all it takes is for you to miss one thing and sods law it'll come through, lose one of these style of bets and you've lost all you're profits and hundreds more.

If you polled everyone in the country who retired at 50 or less and ask them how they did it I can't imagine very many at all would say they continually bet thousands of pounds to earn back small change until they had enough to retire.

I say spend your hard earned money wiser