Stephen McGinn - Morton Loan

[04Sauzee]

Reported that McGinn could be joining Morton on loan

[Billy Whizz]

Been confirmed by Hibs

[J-C]

Never understood why he was here, wasn't a coach and didn't really play or part of the squad.

[Billy Whizz]

Never understood why he was here, wasn't a coach and didn't really play or part of the squad.

He did a lot of scouting for Hibs. Jack’s eye in the stand
Don’t think other than SM, we have any other scouts on our books

[Brightside]

Good move....save some wages for us.

[MWHIBBIES]

Never understood why he was here, wasn't a coach and didn't really play or part of the squad.

Did you not? Because you gave me plenty of stick when I actually questioned the signing at the time :greengrin

[BlackSheep]

Filled a spot when needed, never gonna impress much... hey he at least scored a goal for us.

Good luck to him

[JimBHibees]

Filled a spot when needed, never gonna impress much... hey he at least scored a goal for us.

Good luck to him

Yep short term cover until we got Irvine in and Allan recovered.

[Stuart93]

File under strange signings that contributed nothing.

Surely his wage, no matter how small, could’ve been used better elsewhere?

Nothing against him personally though

[Since452]

File under strange signings that contributed nothing.

Surely his wage, no matter how small, could’ve been used better elsewhere?

Nothing against him personally though

Apart from his goal

[CmoantheHibs]

Did you not? Because you gave me plenty of stick when I actually questioned the signing at the time :greengrin
Not sure whether JCs revisionism is actually true or not but it did make me laugh. You two were constantly butting heads a while back.

[Stuart93]

Apart from his goal

Apologies, apart from his goal

Surely can’t disagree that the wage could’ve been used elsewhere?

[JimBHibees]

Apologies, apart from his goal

Surely can’t disagree that the wage could’ve been used elsewhere?

Just cover that's all. Sure he wasn't big earner but covered a spot and also did some scouting and maybe coaching. No big deal.

[Stuart93]

Just cover that's all. Sure he wasn't big earner but covered a spot and also did some scouting and maybe coaching. No big deal.

It’s not but when you think about seasons gone by and other players we’ve brought in as “cover” who’ve played little to no part, I’d imagine it would add up to a hefty amount

[Peevemor]

It’s not but when you think about seasons gone by and other players we’ve brought in as “cover” who’ve played little to no part, I’d imagine it would add up to a hefty amount
It's like paying insurance premiums.

[Stuart93]

It's like paying insurance premiums.

But if it’s purely for back up and nothing else would we not have been better turning to youth?

Would we have been any worse off than having Ben Stirling (example only) on the bench every week as oppose to S. McGinn?

[blackpoolhibs]

But if it’s purely for back up and nothing else would we not have been better turning to youth?

Would we have been any worse off than having Ben Stirling (example only) on the bench every week as oppose to S. McGinn?
I dont know if we would have been better turning to youth, but our manager obviously thought he was someone he wanted in to do a job for a while.

Micro managing everything our manager does is getting daft.

[Billy Whizz]

Good move....save some wages for us.

I’d be surprised if Morton are paying anything, think they are skint

[Peevemor]

But if it’s purely for back up and nothing else would we not have been better turning to youth?

Would we have been any worse off than having Ben Stirling (example only) on the bench every week as oppose to S. McGinn?Obviously the manager didn't think so.

I don't think Jack Ross would have signed him for no reason.

He didn't play often but when he did he didn't let us down. People have the right to speculate on why he is/was here, but I honestly don't see the big deal.

[jeffers]

I dont know if we would have been better turning to youth, but our manager obviously thought he was someone he wanted in to do a job for a while.

Micro managing everything our manager does is getting daft.

It’s a fair comment though in this instance. Nothing against S McGinn, but bringing in a player Ross had little to no intention of ever playing in a position we already had enough cover in made no sense to me. Even the player himself wasn’t that fussed about getting a game.

[Hibbyradge]

But if it’s purely for back up and nothing else would we not have been better turning to youth?

Would we have been any worse off than having Ben Stirling (example only) on the bench every week as oppose to S. McGinn?

Yes, it would have been worse if we'd had to play him regularly.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not sure whether JCs revisionism is actually true or not but it did make me laugh. You two were constantly butting heads a while back.

It very much is. A quick read of the Stephen McGinn signing thread shows it :wink:

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?348363-Official-Site-STEPHEN-McGINN-COMPLETES-MOVE&highlight=stephen+mcginn

I never had anything personal against McGinn but it was a rubbish signing from day one. Not good enough.

[Peevemor]

It very much is. A quick read of the Stephen McGinn signing thread shows it :wink:

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?348363-Official-Site-STEPHEN-McGINN-COMPLETES-MOVE&highlight=stephen+mcginn

I never had anything personal against McGinn but it was a rubbish signing from day one. Not good enough.Not good enough for what?

[blackpoolhibs]

It’s a fair comment though in this instance. Nothing against S McGinn, but bringing in a player Ross had little to no intention of ever playing in a position we already had enough cover in made no sense to me. Even the player himself wasn’t that fussed about getting a game.

Ross did play him though, and gave him some scouting duties.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not good enough for what?
A Hibs team chasing 3rd. He's a championship player. He's contributed nothing on the pitch apart from the 3rd goal in a 3-0 win.

[jeffers]

Ross did play him though, and gave him some scouting duties.

Barely and we already had cover. I’m assuming we no longer need any scouting duties performed ?

Like I said nothing against him, he seems like a really good guy, but it comes across as Ross doing him a favour by signing him.

[Jim44]

Good move....save some wages for us.


I’d be surprised if Morton are paying anything, think they are skint

It’s quite common for clubs to loan out players and still pay all or most of their wages.

[3pm]

We needed numbers when he signed. Sensible move.

We now have enough bodies. Loaned out. Sensible move.

Good luck Stephen.

[Peevemor]

I was doing a bit of DIY on some finishes in the house. To do a decent job I needed a hand router/plane for about 10 minutes.

I could have spent £150+ but in the end I ordered one from Wish for about £15. It did the job fine and I've still got it. I might use it again, I might not. For all it cost I don't really care. If I'd needed one for extensive use then I'd have spent more.

[Hibbyradge]

I was doing a bit of DIY on some finishes in the house. To do a decent job I needed a hand router/plane for about 10 minutes.

I could have spent £150+ but in the end I ordered one from Wish for about £15. It did the job fine and I've still got it. I might use it again, I might not. For all it cost I don't really care. If I'd needed one for extensive use then I'd have spent more.

Wrong thread, mate...

[Hibiza]

I was doing a bit of DIY on some finishes in the house. To do a decent job I needed a hand router/plane for about 10 minutes.

I could have spent £150+ but in the end I ordered one from Wish for about £15. It did the job fine and I've still got it. I might use it again, I might not. For all it cost I don't really care. If I'd needed one for extensive use then I'd have spent more.

Funny as ***x sur , 10/10.

[J-C]

He did a lot of scouting for Hibs. Jack’s eye in the stand
Don’t think other than SM, we have any other scouts on our books


I knew he was doing something like that for Ross and yes I had forgotten we've no scouts now, obviously with Irvine and Cadden in we're better off in the middle.

[The Modfather]

Meh when he signed, meh now he’s away. I do think the scouting/coaching is overplayed though. As others have pointed out who will now be doing the work that McGinn was doing?

Much like Nelom was apparently a favour from a Lennon to an agent he had a good relationship with. I do think it was more Ross doing McGinn a favour. As long as Ross keeps up his good recruitment I’ll not lose much sleep over him helping someone out for little impact on the overall budget.

[zitelli62]

He was a McGinn that's all that's matters.

[Ronniekirk]

Filled a spot when needed, never gonna impress much... hey he at least scored a goal for us.

Good luck to him

It was a good strike Cadden and Irvine are far better players , but he has managed to do something neither of them have Snd we really need others chipping in goals in the run in


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[jacomo]

It’s not but when you think about seasons gone by and other players we’ve brought in as “cover” who’ve played little to no part, I’d imagine it would add up to a hefty amount


You know how football works right?

Every team is going to have fringe players who hardly play or signings that don’t work out.

Not a biggie.

[RoYO!]

I'm sure hes a top class professional just like every other McGinn I know. I'm also sure he was a positive influence around the club. If he's away then he goes with my very best wishes.

[Sir David Gray]

I wonder why Hibs haven't notified their Facebook followers with this news.

[Hibbyradge]

Meh when he signed, meh now he’s away. I do think the scouting/coaching is overplayed though. As others have pointed out who will now be doing the work that McGinn was doing?

Much like Nelom was apparently a favour from a Lennon to an agent he had a good relationship with. I do think it was more Ross doing McGinn a favour. As long as Ross keeps up his good recruitment I’ll not lose much sleep over him helping someone out for little impact on the overall budget.

You've completely missed the point.

Jack Ross was merely creating a fantastic quiz question.

[scoopyboy]

Meh when he signed, meh now he’s away. I do think the scouting/coaching is overplayed though. As others have pointed out who will now be doing the work that McGinn was doing?

Much like Nelom was apparently a favour from a Lennon to an agent he had a good relationship with. I do think it was more Ross doing McGinn a favour. As long as Ross keeps up his good recruitment I’ll not lose much sleep over him helping someone out for little impact on the overall budget.

McGinn himself can be doing the job he was doing.

He is still a Hibs employee and can still carry out scouting duties.

[Greenbeard]

It’s not but when you think about seasons gone by and other players we’ve brought in as “cover” who’ve played little to no part, I’d imagine it would add up to a hefty amount
And if we hadn't signed him, or other "cover" players, then had had a couple more injuries or non-availabilities in their position, this place would have been in meltdown for Hibs' lack of planning and foresight.

[blackpoolhibs]

Barely and we already had cover. I’m assuming we no longer need any scouting duties performed ?

Like I said nothing against him, he seems like a really good guy, but it comes across as Ross doing him a favour by signing him.
Why cant he do scouting duties now he's playing at Morton?:confused:

[Cat Stanton]

Can be players signed on loan outside the transfer window?

I'm confused.

[Billy Whizz]

Can be players signed on loan outside the transfer window?

I'm confused.

Just championship and Leagues 1 and 2
Window for them ends on 31st March

[Peevemor]

Wrong thread, mate...I've an analogy using 2 of my power drills which works better if you want.

[Cat Stanton]

Just championship and Leagues 1 and 2
Window for them ends on 31st March

That's an awfully big window to "slam shut"...


Anyway, thanks.

[Billy Whizz]

Starts today for Morton v Dunfermline

[Speedy]

Barely and we already had cover. I’m assuming we no longer need any scouting duties performed ?

Like I said nothing against him, he seems like a really good guy, but it comes across as Ross doing him a favour by signing him.

McGinn featured 9 times which implies he did his job as cover.

Not sure exactly what his scouting duties involve (and what will change now he's at Morton) but there's a trend of senior players having wider roles that simply playing (or indeed, providing cover but largely not playing) - McGregor/Gray/McGinn/Samson.

[kaimendhibs]

Thank god Hibs players cant read [emoji102][emoji102][emoji848][emoji175]. Mibbe save slating for players of other teams?

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[MWHIBBIES]

Thank god Hibs players cant read [emoji102][emoji102][emoji848][emoji175]. Mibbe save slating for players of other teams?

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No one is slating him. It was clearly just a strange signing of a player who wasn't at the level we needed.

[Eyrie]

No one is slating him. It was clearly just a strange signing of a player who wasn't at the level we needed.

Or who was cheap depth for a few games.

McGinn may not have been a stand out, but he didn't let us down either in the role he was brought here to do.

I'm more disappointed that Wright hasn't been able to fulfill his role, although I'm not blaming him because he is trying his best. I'd also assume he's on a below average wage for us.

[Highwayman]

Or who was cheap depth for a few games.

McGinn may not have been a stand out, but he didn't let us down either in the role he was brought here to do.

I'm more disappointed that Wright hasn't been able to fulfill his role, although I'm not blaming him because he is trying his best. I'd also assume he's on a below average wage for us.

My beef about McGinn was him giving away the free kick against Celtic which gave young Turnbull the chance to score from it.

There was debates about whether it was a free kick,but my question was what he was doing on the park in the first place when Stevie Mallan was still sitting on the bench.

[Peevemor]

My beef about McGinn was him giving away the free kick against Celtic which gave young Turnbull the chance to score from it.

There was debates about whether it was a free kick,but my question was what he was doing on the park in the first place when Stevie Mallan was still sitting on the bench.Haha, because Stevie Mallan never gave away any free kicks...

[Eyrie]

My beef about McGinn was him giving away the free kick against Celtic which gave young Turnbull the chance to score from it.

There was debates about whether it was a free kick,but my question was what he was doing on the park in the first place when Stevie Mallan was still sitting on the bench.

Different styles of player - McGinn makes more sense from a defensive viewpoint when there's only ten minutes left in a game.

And Mallan was already on the park (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/matches/celtic-vs-hibernian-1/line-up).

[Northernhibee]

My beef about McGinn was him giving away the free kick against Celtic which gave young Turnbull the chance to score from it.

There was debates about whether it was a free kick,but my question was what he was doing on the park in the first place when Stevie Mallan was still sitting on the bench.
It wasn’t a clear free kick IIRC. Not a very good decision from the ref if I recall, he got a nick on the ball.

[Smartie]

It wasn’t a clear free kick IIRC. Not a very good decision from the ref if I recall, he got a nick on the ball.

It was a very good tackle, he did his job well and the ref let him and us down.

I've never really understood the agitation shown regarding McGinn. He was signed as cover - which he provided - and has helped our manager off the field as well. He's pretty much met expectations in my book.

Harder questions could be asked of a few other figures as to whether or not they have met expectations (albeit with the bar of expectation being considerably higher).

[blackpoolhibs]

Different styles of player - McGinn makes more sense from a defensive viewpoint when there's only ten minutes left in a game.

And Mallan was already on the park (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/matches/celtic-vs-hibernian-1/line-up).

😂😂😂

[worcesterhibby]

Different styles of player - McGinn makes more sense from a defensive viewpoint when there's only ten minutes left in a game.

And Mallan was already on the park (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/matches/celtic-vs-hibernian-1/line-up).

But apart from that it was an excellent point :greengrin

[jacomo]

No one is slating him. It was clearly just a strange signing of a player who wasn't at the level we needed.


Why was it a strange signing?

What is it that you still don’t understand?

[MWHIBBIES]

Why was it a strange signing?

What is it that you still don’t understand?

He offered zero and has been loaned out? Its not difficult to understand. He was a strange signing. I said it at the time, a championship player who wouldn't get near a starting spot. He never did.

[jacomo]

He offered zero and has been loaned out? Its not difficult to understand. He was a strange signing. I said it at the time, a championship player who wouldn't get near a starting spot. He never did.


You said a lot more at the time iirc, you complained that signing players at the level of Stephen McGinn wasn’t good enough.

Of course we didn’t sign players ‘at his level’. We signed Stephen McGinn. As cover. Presumably because he was the best option available within our budget at the time.

It wasn’t a statement of anything. It was just signing a player to provide squad depth. We ended up not needing him but of course at the time you can’t predict how injuries etc play out.

Every team in the world makes similar signings for similar reasons. SM is a player with decent Premiership experience but didn’t end up playing as much as he hoped and now he’s gone out on loan.

It’s a pretty normal story really and I don’t understand what’s so strange about it.

[CMurdoch]

He offered zero and has been loaned out? Its not difficult to understand. He was a strange signing. I said it at the time, a championship player who wouldn't get near a starting spot. He never did.

SDG has barely played for coming on 2 seasons now and will be on a far higher wage than Stephen McGinn.
His new contract made no sense at the time and makes less now.
McGinn was a cheap short term experienced option to pad a thin squad out.
Once midfielders Irvine & Cadden came in he was no longer required as a playing option hence his departure.

[jeffers]

SDG has barely played for coming on 2 seasons now and will be on a far higher wage than Stephen McGinn.
His new contract made no sense at the time and makes less now.
McGinn was a cheap short term experienced option to pad a thin squad out.
Once midfielders Irvine & Cadden came in he was no longer required as a playing option hence his departure.

So you know what SDG earns do you ?

[MWHIBBIES]

You said a lot more at the time iirc, you complained that signing players at the level of Stephen McGinn wasn’t good enough.

Of course we didn’t sign players ‘at his level’. We signed Stephen McGinn. As cover. Presumably because he was the best option available within our budget at the time.

It wasn’t a statement of anything. It was just signing a player to provide squad depth. We ended up not needing him but of course at the time you can’t predict how injuries etc play out.

Every team in the world makes similar signings for similar reasons. SM is a player with decent Premiership experience but didn’t end up playing as much as he hoped and now he’s gone out on loan.

It’s a pretty normal story really and I don’t understand what’s so strange about it.

A week or so before McGinn joined we were after Mcrorrie for a fee. He wasn't the best we could get at the time. I think we just panicked a bit and took him until we could get some real quality in (Irvine)

Hibs signing a player who was released by St Mirren is pretty strange.

[CMurdoch]

So you know what SDG earns do you ?

Far more than he is worth.
Not his problem but a wasted wage.

[jeffers]

Far more than he is worth.
Not his problem but a wasted wage.

Each to their own, but a comment like that is piss poor IMO.

[Hibbyradge]

I've an analogy using 2 of my power drills which works better if you want.

I think I've seen that movie.

[Hibbyradge]

Different styles of player - McGinn makes more sense from a defensive viewpoint when there's only ten minutes left in a game.

And Mallan was already on the park (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/matches/celtic-vs-hibernian-1/line-up).

:tee hee:

[jacomo]

A week or so before McGinn joined we were after Mcrorrie for a fee. He wasn't the best we could get at the time. I think we just panicked a bit and took him until we could get some real quality in (Irvine)

Hibs signing a player who was released by St Mirren is pretty strange.


Exactly. You’ve just explained the logic behind it pretty well.

We missed out on our first target. It’s obvious that we’d put a lot of work into signing McCrorie and him signing for Aberdeen must have been a blow for the football dept.

Rather than just blow our money regardless, we signed a cheaper option as cover while we had a rethink.

I think most of us on here are realistic about our clubs place in the football food chain. We can’t just throw money around.

The angry reaction from some when McGinn signed was disproportionate and disappointing.

[MWHIBBIES]

Exactly. You’ve just explained the logic behind it pretty well.

We missed out on our first target. It’s obvious that we’d put a lot of work into signing McCrorie and him signing for Aberdeen must have been a blow for the football dept.

Rather than just blow our money regardless, we signed a cheaper option as cover while we had a rethink.

I think most of us on here are realistic about our clubs place in the football food chain. We can’t just throw money around.

The angry reaction from some when McGinn signed was disproportionate and disappointing.

I wasn't angry at all. I just said he'd offer nothing and he did.

[Andy74]

I wasn't angry at all. I just said he'd offer nothing and he did.

His main value has been the support for Ross that he’s spoken about. Registering him as a player was just as a pure back up. Over the period where we played league cup games it was also useful to have him involved otherwise another player wouldn’t have been getting a rest.

He did of course score a decent goal in one appearance.

Saying he offered nothing is missing the point of him being around. He was hardly a key part of our plans and the amount of comment it has attracted is strange.

Back up as others have said is also a bit of insurance. We could easily have been hit with a Covid issue or more injuries. You find how useful insurance is when you need it.

[MWHIBBIES]

His main value has been the support for Ross that he’s spoken about. Registering him as a player was just as a pure back up. Over the period where we played league cup games it was also useful to have him involved otherwise another player wouldn’t have been getting a rest.

He did of course score a decent goal in one appearance.

Saying he offered nothing is missing the point of him being around. He was hardly a key part of our plans and the amount of comment it has attracted is strange.

Back up as others have said is also a bit of insurance. We could easily have been hit with a Covid issue or more injuries. You find how useful insurance is when you need it.
Perhaps you are right. I'd much prefer we gave those appearences and others to a young player.

[Allant1981]

Perhaps you are right. I'd much prefer we gave those appearences and others to a young player.

If we had younger players that were good enough surely they would have played?

[Andy74]

If we had younger players that were good enough surely they would have played?

Ross has also spoken about the impact of Covid and not having the option of being able to delve into the academy teams this season in the way he might have been able to previously.

[Peevemor]

Ross has also spoken about the impact of Covid and not having the option of being able to delve into the academy teams this season in the way he might have been able to previously.

An important point that's easy to forget.

[Allant1981]

Ross has also spoken about the impact of Covid and not having the option of being able to delve into the academy teams this season in the way he might have been able to previously.

What does he mean by that? Do they not get tested the same as the 1st team so can't play?

[Andy74]

What does he mean by that? Do they not get tested the same as the 1st team so can't play?

Dunno but he’s mentioned it a couple of times recently. I assume that it would take some time to get a player in and following the protocols / testing etc. It would limit the ability to pull a player in from the youth team the day before or anything.

[J-C]

If we had younger players that were good enough surely they would have played?


The majority of younger players were loaned out due to no reserve or academy leagues, TBH there wasn't a great deal of midfielders coming through that I'd class as good enough. Stirling left to go to Hamilton and plays a bit part there, Murray is an attacking mid and getting decent game time at Dunfermline, only other young player left is Bradley and he plays wide right.

[Allant1981]

Dunno but he’s mentioned it a couple of times recently. I assume that it would take some time to get a player in and following the protocols / testing etc. It would limit the ability to pull a player in from the youth team the day before or anything.


Yip makes sense, I just presumed they would have all had the same tests done but might not be as easy as that

[Allant1981]

The majority of younger players were loaned out due to no reserve or academy leagues, TBH there wasn't a great deal of midfielders coming through that I'd class as good enough. Stirling left to go to Hamilton and plays a bit part there, Murray is an attacking mid and getting decent game time at Dunfermline, only other young player left is Bradley and he plays wide right.


Yip that's my point, if we had younger players that were good enough they would have been in the mix to play, unless they can't due to testing etc that has been mentioned, fwiw I don't think the signing was as bad as some make out, gave a bit of experience as back up, now we have players coming back to the 1st team he isn't required. Not a huge issue

[Peevemor]

Yip makes sense, I just presumed they would have all had the same tests done but might not be as easy as that

IIRC at the start of the season (when the transfer window was still open) training was restricted to the first team squad only, which included the most promising youngsters, most of whom have since been sent out on loan.

[J-C]

Yip that's my point, if we had younger players that were good enough they would have been in the mix to play, unless they can't due to testing etc that has been mentioned, fwiw I don't think the signing was as bad as some make out, gave a bit of experience as back up, now we have players coming back to the 1st team he isn't required. Not a huge issue


I think my other main point is we are lacking any young players coming through in the midfield, there's Innes Murray(Alloa) and Josh Campbell(Edin City), Innes is 23 now and Josh is 20 and both look nowhere near our level, the 4 other young players are all 16 with Fairley at Stenhousemuir.

[Billy Whizz]

Ross has also spoken about the impact of Covid and not having the option of being able to delve into the academy teams this season in the way he might have been able to previously.
Bang on Andy
All bar Bradley and Dabrowski were out on loan too
The younger players were in a different bubble, so didn’t train with the 1st team

[J-C]

He's in the EEN saying he went on loan to get 1st team football, surely he knew when he signed he was only here as a backup and 1st team football would be few and far between, why sign then?

[Peevemor]

He's in the EEN saying he went on loan to get 1st team football, surely he knew when he signed he was only here as a backup and 1st team football would be few and far between, why sign then?

Maybe it was the best offer he had or that he thought he'd be getting more game time?

[Speedy]

He's in the EEN saying he went on loan to get 1st team football, surely he knew when he signed he was only here as a backup and 1st team football would be few and far between, why sign then?

May have been his only option at the time, or could have changed his mind - maybe not as ready to step away from playing as much as he thought he was

[Andy74]

He's in the EEN saying he went on loan to get 1st team football, surely he knew when he signed he was only here as a backup and 1st team football would be few and far between, why sign then?

We now have Allan back and Magennis and Irvine weren't here when he arrived. With only a few games left he's nowhere near even the cover stage now.

[jacomo]

He's in the EEN saying he went on loan to get 1st team football, surely he knew when he signed he was only here as a backup and 1st team football would be few and far between, why sign then?


Injuries or other factors may have given him more opportunities.

Footballers tend to back themselves to do well.

[jacomo]

I wasn't angry at all. I just said he'd offer nothing and he did.


Maybe you weren’t angry but others certainly were.

I think you did complain about what the signing said about our ambition, or words to that effect.

Of course it didn’t say anything, it was just the signing of one player.

[J-C]

Why let Whittaker go if they just wanted someone for cover, he's also doing some coaching and he could've scouted for the manager also.

[Peevemor]

Why let Whittaker go if they just wanted someone for cover, he's also doing some coaching and he could've scouted for the manager also.There was a few months between Whittaker leaving and McGinn signing. Plans and circumstances can change.

[MWHIBBIES]

Maybe you weren’t angry but others certainly were.

I think you did complain about what the signing said about our ambition, or words to that effect.

Of course it didn’t say anything, it was just the signing of one player.

Yes, because we showed ambition in other signings. Mcginn was a rubbish signing who offered nout imo.

[Mr. Wonderful]

There was a few months between Whittaker leaving and McGinn signing. Plans and circumstances can change.

Not to mention that we offered Whitts a deal, he wanted to play more.

[Eyrie]

Yes, because we showed ambition in other signings. Mcginn was a rubbish signing who offered nout imo.

Except cheap depth after we'd already spent big money on those other signings at a time when there was a lot of financial uncertainty.

He came here, did the job he was supposed to do and moved on. Why the hatred?

[MWHIBBIES]

Except cheap depth after we'd already spent big money on those other signings at a time when there was a lot of financial uncertainty.

He came here, did the job he was supposed to do and moved on. Why the hatred?

Absolutely zero hatred. I just think he was a waste of money and depth we didn't need.

[Magpie]

Stephen McGinn started three of our Scottish League cup games in a time that we were low on depth due to international duty and covid. He did what he came in to do and I find the signing perfectly reasonable.

[Centre Hawf]

Stephen McGinn started three of our Scottish League cup games in a time that we were low on depth due to international duty and covid. He did what he came in to do and I find the signing perfectly reasonable.

He was a perfectly good squad player for the first half of the season. After January we never had much use for him and he found an opportunity to move out on loan to play before he presumably finishes up his career. Pretty reasonable in every way.