2030 World Cup

[Frazerbob]

Joint statement has just been issued by Scotland, Wales, England, NI & Ireland FA’s.

“The football associations and government partners of the UK and Ireland are delighted that the UK government has committed to support a prospective five association bid for the 2030 FIFA World Cup. We will continue to undertake feasibility work to assess the viability of a bid before FIFA formally open the process in 2022. Staging a FIFA World Cup would provide an incredible opportunity to deliver tangible benefits for our nations. If a decision is made to bid for the event, we look forward to presenting our hosting proposals to FIFA and the wider global football community.”

[cocteautwin]

Would be great. Hope it happens. Get the big brown envelopes on order Boris.

[JimBHibees]

Interesting timing. Is this the usual time to be deciding this decision?

[EI255]

Would be good, however we all know how FIFA work.

Brown envelopes and all that.

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[Oscar T Grouch]

Would be good, however we all know how FIFA work.

Brown envelopes and all that.

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That’s cool, that’s how the current UK government works too 😉

[bingo70]

Would that mean 5 teams qualifying for the tournament automatically?

Cant see many countries voting for that

[Carheenlea]

Hampden would require a 3 sided rebuild to be part of a World Cup. Probably easier just to do a complete demolish and start from scratch on what is a big site. Could build anything they liked on it. Celtic Park probably not up to standard either with an antiquated old main stand. Ibrox probably the only stadium that would be close to being acceptable.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Hampden would require a 3 sided rebuild to be part of a World Cup. Probably easier just to do a complete demolish and start from scratch on what is a big site. Could build anything they liked on it. Celtic Park probably not up to standard either with an antiquated old main stand. Ibrox probably the only stadium that would be close to being acceptable.

Or Murrayfield?...

[The Spaceman]

Hampden would require a 3 sided rebuild to be part of a World Cup. Probably easier just to do a complete demolish and start from scratch on what is a big site. Could build anything they liked on it. Celtic Park probably not up to standard either with an antiquated old main stand. Ibrox probably the only stadium that would be close to being acceptable.

Murrayfield would be more than adequate!

[MWHIBBIES]

Think its laughable to have it over 5 countries. 5 countries qualifying automatically is ridiculous. Probably would prefer it just to be in England. Say what you like about them but their stadiums are as good as any in the world. London alone could host it.

[nonshinyfinish]

Think its laughable to have it over 5 countries. 5 countries qualifying automatically is ridiculous.

By 2030 FIFA will have expanded it to 256 teams in order to rinse every tv market on the planet. Problem solved.

[04Sauzee]

Time to fill in the corners and get a 3rd tier on the West 😁😁

[Lancs Harp]

Think its laughable to have it over 5 countries. 5 countries qualifying automatically is ridiculous. Probably would prefer it just to be in England. Say what you like about them but their stadiums are as good as any in the world. London alone could host it.

Im not sure 5 countries would qualify automatically. The 2026 World Cup is being held in the US, Canada and Mexico and they are still arguing the toss over automatic qualification. I presume the plan will be for another 48 team tournament as being introduced in 2026 which is getting a bit big for a single country to stage.
Personally having been to the World Cup in France in 1998 and the Euros in in Belgium and Holland in 2000 I prefer to travel and the World Cup be held elsewhere.
I believe Spain and Portugal are considering a joint bid. I'd prefer that myself.

[lapsedhibee]

Doubt if Ireland and Norniron will be separate countries by then, so it's probably only 4.

[CropleyWasGod]

Doubt if Ireland and Norniron will be separate countries by then, so it's probably only 4.

We could have a joint UK team.













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[Lancs Harp]

We could have a joint UK team.













:fishin:

We could play in a snazzy green blue red and white kit.

[CropleyWasGod]

We could play in a snazzy green blue red and white kit.

You're marginalising the Prods. GTF.

[CockneyRebel]

We could have a joint UK team.

:fishin:


Stand by to repel boarders!

[Just_Jimmy]

Im not sure 5 countries would qualify automatically. The 2026 World Cup is being held in the US, Canada and Mexico and they are still arguing the toss over automatic qualification. I presume the plan will be for another 48 team tournament as being introduced in 2026 which is getting a bit big for a single country to stage.
Personally having been to the World Cup in France in 1998 and the Euros in in Belgium and Holland in 2000 I prefer to travel and the World Cup be held elsewhere.
I believe Spain and Portugal are considering a joint bid. I'd prefer that myself.Id prefer Scotland were guaranteed a place and the UK and Scottish economy got a massive boost, a generation of Scottish kids got to see Scotland play meaningful games and the country got a feel good factor.



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[Lancs Harp]

Id prefer Scotland were guaranteed a place and the UK and Scottish economy got a massive boost, a generation of Scottish kids got to see Scotland play meaningful games and the country got a feel good factor.



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I get that, its just my own preference.

[delbert]

Doubt if Ireland and Norniron will be separate countries by then, so it's probably only 4.

Surely plenty people on here will be hoping for fairly obvious reasons that Scotland may well not be eligible by then to be part of a joint UK bid !

[CropleyWasGod]

Surely plenty people on here will be hoping for fairly obvious reasons that Scotland may well not be eligible by then to be part of a joint UK bid !

It's not a UK bid, though. ROI are included.

And, to be pedantic, it's the FA's of each country that apply. There are currently 5 involved, so that would remain (disclaimer. LH's point about Ireland might apply)

[lord bunberry]

I don’t see why England need any partners in a bid. They must be due to host it again and after the shambles of their previous bid they’d probably have a very good chance of getting it. Seems like a political decision rather than a football decision. Travelling down south would be better anyway.

[superfurryhibby]

It seems incredible that the World Cup hasn’t returned England since 1966, given the footballing tradition etc. The five nation joint proposal seems ridiculous though. A joint Scottish -English bid may have been more sensible in terms of logistics.

[O'Rourke3]

Think its laughable to have it over 5 countries. 5 countries qualifying automatically is ridiculous. Probably would prefer it just to be in England. Say what you like about them but their stadiums are as good as any in the world. London alone could host it.Not just the stadiums though. Theyll need specifically sized stadia, hotels, airports, training and medical facilities. Decent transport etc. Only 16 teams the last time they held it. Unlikely Manchester and Liverpool Birmingham would use both sites etc.

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[hibbysam]

Would probably be decent for our economy up here, from a selfish POV I’d always rather an ‘away’ tournament.

Wales would only have the Millenium stadium*, Cardiff city stadium would need capacity increased and Liberty stadium would need redone as its capacity would need doubled.

Scotland would have Murrayfield*, Hampden, Ibrox and Celtic park*.

Ireland would have Croke park* and the Aviva.

England obviously have far more - 11 in total with 5 of over 60k.

60k is the threshold for quarter finals onwards. * denotes those stadiums. Just don’t see why England wouldn’t go it alone other than political reasons as the UKGov have already fired money into it.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not just the stadiums though. Theyll need specifically sized stadia, hotels, airports, training and medical facilities. Decent transport etc. Only 16 teams the last time they held it. Unlikely Manchester and Liverpool Birmingham would use both sites etc.

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They did bit to host it in 2018, though right and I'm sure very few stadiums weren't suitable then. They could easily do it. Cant imagine their facilties would need too much upgrading.

[basehibby]

It seems incredible that the World Cup hasn’t returned England since 1966, given the footballing tradition etc. The five nation joint proposal seems ridiculous though. A joint Scottish -English bid may have been more sensible in terms of logistics.

Agreed - auld enemy or no they are superbly equipped to host a WC and would be deserving recipients having contributed plenty to the sport over the years.

Considering the above and that Italy, France, Brazil, Mexico, Germany and USA will all have hosted the tourny twice by 2030 you've got to consider that maybe FIFA just don't like them very much. Can't think why :tee hee:

[hibbysam]

They did bit to host it in 2018, though right and I'm sure very few stadiums weren't suitable then. They could easily do it. Cant imagine their facilties would need too much upgrading.

Especially with the Olympic stadium now fully transformed into a football stadium, Stamford bridge going to get an upgrade, the new Tottenham stadium, Anfield’s upgrade, and the new Everton stadium. They’ll be in a far better position by 2030 stadia wise than they’ve ever been previously.

Clubs opening new training centres all the time would also put them in a far better position.

[DH1875]

Why invite Ireland to be part of it :confused:

[DH1875]

Hampden would require a 3 sided rebuild to be part of a World Cup. Probably easier just to do a complete demolish and start from scratch on what is a big site. Could build anything they liked on it. Celtic Park probably not up to standard either with an antiquated old main stand. Ibrox probably the only stadium that would be close to being acceptable.

We wouldn't get the final or semi finals so any of the current stadiums in Scotland are fine.

[MWHIBBIES]

Especially with the Olympic stadium now fully transformed into a football stadium, Stamford bridge going to get an upgrade, the new Tottenham stadium, Anfield’s upgrade, and the new Everton stadium. They’ll be in a far better position by 2030 stadia wise than they’ve ever been previously.

Clubs opening new training centres all the time would also put them in a far better position.

Indeed. England is probably the most suited country in the world, along with Germany, to host it. France probably excellent as well as they've recently had Euros and WC.

[Keith_M]

There's no reason why England couldn't just host this on their own.


They already have about a dozen stadiums of 40k+, but being awarded the World Cup might even enable the rebuild or extension of additional stadiums.

[The dalmeny]

Would probably be decent for our economy up here, from a selfish POV I’d always rather an ‘away’ tournament.

Wales would only have the Millenium stadium*, Cardiff city stadium would need capacity increased and Liberty stadium would need redone as its capacity would need doubled.

Scotland would have Murrayfield*, Hampden, Ibrox and Celtic park*.

Ireland would have Croke park* and the Aviva.

England obviously have far more - 11 in total with 5 of over 60k.

60k is the threshold for quarter finals onwards. * denotes those stadiums. Just don’t see why England wouldn’t go it alone other than political reasons as the UKGov have already fired money into it.

no more barrack room games at Croke

[The dalmeny]

It seems incredible that the World Cup hasn’t returned England since 1966, given the footballing tradition etc. The five nation joint proposal seems ridiculous though. A joint Scottish -English bid may have been more sensible in terms of logistics.

quite easily manage a group based Edinburgh Newcastle and I suppose Glasgow

[SHODAN]

Hampden would require a 3 sided rebuild to be part of a World Cup. Probably easier just to do a complete demolish and start from scratch on what is a big site. Could build anything they liked on it. Celtic Park probably not up to standard either with an antiquated old main stand. Ibrox probably the only stadium that would be close to being acceptable.

Just Stuttgart it.

[jgl07]

Hampden would require a 3 sided rebuild to be part of a World Cup. Probably easier just to do a complete demolish and start from scratch on what is a big site.

Alternatively just bulldoze it?

[Pretty Boy]

Sounds brilliant. For the next European WC Italy or Spain/Portugal would be my choice but if that wasn't an option then a UK, Scotland and Ireland joint bid would be a pretty good alternative.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

If current plans come to fruition then England would have the following 40,000+ by 2030

Man Utd
Man City
Liverpool
Everton (new build)
Newcastle
Sunderland
Leeds (redevelopment)
Sheffield Utd (expansion)
Notts Forest (redevelopment)
Leicester (expansion)
Wolves (expansion)
Aston Villa
Arsenal
Tottenham
Chelsea (redevelopment)
West Ham
Wembley

So that's 17 in total. 4 in the north west and 4 in the north east/Yorkshire. 2 in West Mids and 2 in East Mids then 5 in London. Add in The Aviva in Dublin, the Millennium in Cardiff and a redeveloped Hampden and there you go, 20 top class venues.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Just Stuttgart it.

Exactly. Drop the pitch, raise the gradient of the existing older sides and there will be enough room to extend the stands to pitchside taking capacity to 60,000+

[1875Sean]

I dont understand why they would mention Northern Ireland, I know it’s a joint effort but isn’t the biggest stadium in that country around 18,000?

[The Baldmans Comb]

After two failed solo bids in 2006 and again 2018 England needed to change tact and there is no nation more clever than England as what happens is that you over apply big then pick away bit by bit if you win.

5 "countries" and lets say 25 cities are in the bidding process and then one by one cities are whittled down as will the countries be removed as 5 European places being guaranteed just isn't going to happen as you lose the European voting block.

So Ireland gets merged with the North of Ireland, Wales/Scotland gets dropped and you end up with a few group games in Dublin and some in Glasgow/Cardiff plus throw in a last 16 and a Quarter final.

No harm in Scotland trying to get in on the action though I can see a lot of lobbying to see who doesn't get bumped.

Ireland are a very well respected genuine country with access to a wide diaspora market so should be able to make the country cut with Scotland and Wales fighting it out for the third place.

England are already talking about "football coming home" which rather makes a mockery of some 5 nations bid.

This is fundamentally if not totally England's World Cup and their government and FA will call every shot and very good luck to them as they are a fine football nation and their opponents will be Argentina/Uruguay on the 100th anniversary.

If Spain/Portugal bid as rumoured then its another twist to the political agenda.