Ryan Gauld

[Lancs Harp]

Watched Ryan playing for Farense tonight against Benfica. Match finished 0-0 but Ryan played well for an hour, faded out of the game as Farense got pushed further and further back as the game wore on. Farense sit just above the relegation zone and Ryan has scored 6 goals in 20 games in what is a fairly struggling side. Last season Farense gained promotion and Ryan was voted player of the season for the Portuguese second tier. Much more suited to the pace of the game in Portugal than Scotland.

A word on Benfica as someone who follows them, thats one win in 7 games and in all honesty the poorest Benfica side I have ever seen. rebuilding in progress but a long way to go.

[Juniper Greens]

Watched Ryan playing for Farense tonight against Benfica. Match finished 0-0 but Ryan played well for an hour, faded out of the game as Farense got pushed further and further back as the game wore on. Farense sit just above the relegation zone and Ryan has scored 6 goals in 20 games in what is a fairly struggling side. Last season Farense gained promotion and Ryan was voted player of the season for the Portuguese second tier. Much more suited to the pace of the game in Portugal than Scotland.

A word on Benfica as someone who follows them, thats one win in 7 games and in all honesty the poorest Benfica side I have ever seen. rebuilding in progress but a long way to go.

Yep. Things looked so rosy for SLB pre covid. Nightmare since. Threw away the title last season and will finish below sporting this.

[patlowe]

Watched Ryan playing for Farense tonight against Benfica. Match finished 0-0 but Ryan played well for an hour, faded out of the game as Farense got pushed further and further back as the game wore on. Farense sit just above the relegation zone and Ryan has scored 6 goals in 20 games in what is a fairly struggling side. Last season Farense gained promotion and Ryan was voted player of the season for the Portuguese second tier. Much more suited to the pace of the game in Portugal than Scotland.

A word on Benfica as someone who follows them, thats one win in 7 games and in all honesty the poorest Benfica side I have ever seen. rebuilding in progress but a long way to go.

What is the general level like below the top sides? It looks like Gauld is doing brilliantly and there seems to be a quietly growing suggestion he could make the Euros squad. But I sometimes wonder whether we are so starved of Scottish success stories outside of the UK that we equate any decent form as of higher merit than someone doing it in the Scottish or English leagues. What do you think?

[Juniper Greens]

What is the general level like below the top sides? It looks like Gauld is doing brilliantly and there seems to be a quietly growing suggestion he could make the Euros squad. But I sometimes wonder whether we are so starved of Scottish success stories outside of the UK that we equate any decent form as of higher merit than someone doing it in the Scottish or English leagues. What do you think?

Under normal circumstances, Benfica and Porto are better than Scottish standard, with Sporting around Old Firm standard and Braga better than anything else we have. Below that, the league is pretty poor, and I would just about fancy Hibs over two legs against anyone outside that group.
There are some pretty shocking teams in the league and as such, I think Ross County, Hamilton and Kilmarnock wouldn't be any worse off in the table over there than they currently are in our league

[brog]

Under normal circumstances, Benfica and Porto are better than Scottish standard, with Sporting around Old Firm standard and Braga better than anything else we have. Below that, the league is pretty poor, and I would just about fancy Hibs over two legs against anyone outside that group.
There are some pretty shocking teams in the league and as such, I think Ross County, Hamilton and Kilmarnock wouldn't be any worse off in the table over there than they currently are in our league

I pretty much agree with that. My one caveat is that many of the lesser known teams have some amazingly athletic players, though the tempo usually drops later in the game. For some reason they do look much more athletic than our home grown players. I saw Ryan with Farense in 2nd tier at this time last season, he was excellent. Hope both Farense & Portimonense stay up, if only for the 1euro beer inside the ground!

[brog]

I meant to say, an incredibly competitive league at the bottom. 5 points covering the bottom 10 clubs & the club in last place has a game in hand over the other 9. Sporting should win the league now which is an amazing turnaround given how many players they've sold in recent years & effectively had a civil war inside the club. Vamos os verdes!!

[patlowe]

Interesting stuff. I guess then it's hard to make a clear assessment on Gauld - the league is probably a bit better than the Scottish league but perhaps not to the extent he should automatically get in the squad over the other midfielders we currently have. The other factor is whether his style is just more suited to Portugal but I think the Scottish team has a really bright future if we can somehow bring together the technical guys like Gauld (or Christie, Gilmour, Turnbull etc) with the athleticism of McTominay, Tierney, Robertson et al. Doesn't solve the perennial centre half/centre forward issue but exciting nonetheless.

[660]

I thought Gauld looked decent for us until he got injured.

[Unseen work]

If Lennon never had a meltdown Gauld would have done well for us.

To think some of the players we had that season who, on paper, looked terrific signings.

Even McClaren after having a great 6 months was resigned but hardly kicked a ball for us.

What an odd 6 months that was.

[Juniper Greens]

Interesting stuff. I guess then it's hard to make a clear assessment on Gauld - the league is probably a bit better than the Scottish league but perhaps not to the extent he should automatically get in the squad over the other midfielders we currently have. The other factor is whether his style is just more suited to Portugal but I think the Scottish team has a really bright future if we can somehow bring together the technical guys like Gauld (or Christie, Gilmour, Turnbull etc) with the athleticism of McTominay, Tierney, Robertson et al. Doesn't solve the perennial centre half/centre forward issue but exciting nonetheless.

I watch a lot of Portuguese football and have been to countless games over the last few years. I personally wouldn't have him in the squad at this time.

If he gets a move to a top half club and continues to stand out, then I think there is a case

[.Sean.]

I really wanted him to do well for us and think he would have had it not been for the injury. Was excited when we signed him but just didn’t work out unfortunately

[calumhibee1]

If Lennon never had a meltdown Gauld would have done well for us.

To think some of the players we had that season who, on paper, looked terrific signings.

Even McClaren after having a great 6 months was resigned but hardly kicked a ball for us.

What an odd 6 months that was.

Hyndman as well. On paper should have been good, ended up absolutely murder.

[Peevemor]

Hyndman as well. On paper should have been good, ended up absolutely murder.

We maybe expected more, but "absolute murder" is a bit strong.

[The 90+2]

We maybe expected more, but "absolute murder" is maybe a bit strong.

Put in the Glen Middleton category.

[Cat Stanton]

I thought Gauld looked decent for us until he got injured.

Likewise. On his debut - on an otherwise utterly miserable evening in Motherwell, just as Lennon was starting to lose it - I thought he was excellent: at times on a different level to some of the other players. Such a shame that he got injured.

[HoboHarry]

Hyndman as well. On paper should have been good, ended up absolutely murder.
He may not have been the future of a Hibs team that could improve but calling him absolute murder is just daft.

[Peevemor]

Put in the Glen Middleton category.

As opposed to the Glen Michael category, which is for David Tanner...

[The 90+2]

As opposed to the Glen Michael category, which is for David Tanner...

Boom boom.

[HoboHarry]

Boom boom.
That was Basil Brush ya daftie.......

[The 90+2]

🤣🤣

[Centre Hawf]

I think it would be nice to see him get some minutes in the friendlies coming up for Clarke to have a look at him. Doesn't mean he should be at the Euros, but it may spur Ryan on a bit knowing the manager is looking at him. It appears he'll be moving on in the summer as well and having an international cap to your name is always good on the CV when negotiating your next move.

[1van Sprou7e]

If Lennon never had a meltdown Gauld would have done well for us.

To think some of the players we had that season who, on paper, looked terrific signings.

Even McClaren after having a great 6 months was resigned but hardly kicked a ball for us.

What an odd 6 months that was.

Did Lennon injure him?

[we are hibs]

He was chucked in at Ibrox after being out for months and subbed because he wasnt sharp enough. Stunning management from Hecky again.



Wasnt given a real opportunity. Half the hibs support wrote him off on the basis of that 45 minutes too which was ridiculous.

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[brog]

The problem is we ( Scotland) have an absolute surfeit of left sided attacking defenders & midfield players & (if LG isn't fit) not one striker of quality.

[Since452]

He may not have been the future of a Hibs team that could improve but calling him absolute murder is just daft.

I thought Hyndman looked poor to be fair. Another shocking signing.

[DaveF]

Hope both Farense & Portimonense stay up, if only for the 1euro beer inside the ground!

Hmm...I feel a complaint coming on as it was all non alcoholic stuff when we went to Portimao last year. Mind you it was a Monday evening. And cold!

[Juniper Greens]

Hmm...I feel a complaint coming on as it was all non alcoholic stuff when we went to Portimao last year. Mind you it was a Monday evening. And cold!

Top flight is always non alcoholic in Portugal

[Smartie]

I thought Hyndman looked poor to be fair. Another shocking signing.

I was desperate for him to succeed and wanted to see him be good for us - but he just wasn’t.

Given his pedigree, what a disappointment he was.

I don’t think murder is too far off the mark tbh. Got plenty of opportunities based on reputation and delivered absolutely nowt.

[brog]

Top flight is always non alcoholic in Portugal

Ah, didn't know that. Both Farense & Portimonense were in 2nd div when i went there. As an aside, on the general status of Portuguese footy. Pacos De Ferreira are currently 5th in league behind the usual 4. Their stadium holds less than 10k but could still accommodate the whole population of the town (though surrounding area is a fair bit higher). A nice story.

[jacomo]

I wish Ryan Gauld could have stayed with us long term. I guess he would have Jamie Murphy’s place in the squad if he had done.

[JimBHibees]

I thought Gauld looked decent for us until he got injured.

Thought was pretty average on what I seen. Didn't look sharp and easily brushed aside. Didn't look like he was fit as he could be which is probably a lack of game time at his parent club. Played against Elgin and didn't really impress imo.

[EdinMike]

I genuinely forgot we signed him until I read this thread...

[FilipinoHibs]

Watched Ryan playing for Farense tonight against Benfica. Match finished 0-0 but Ryan played well for an hour, faded out of the game as Farense got pushed further and further back as the game wore on. Farense sit just above the relegation zone and Ryan has scored 6 goals in 20 games in what is a fairly struggling side. Last season Farense gained promotion and Ryan was voted player of the season for the Portuguese second tier. Much more suited to the pace of the game in Portugal than Scotland.

A word on Benfica as someone who follows them, thats one win in 7 games and in all honesty the poorest Benfica side I have ever seen. rebuilding in progress but a long way to go.

Worst I have seen in 53 years Good yardstick for how good Rangers actually are given Benfica made them look very ordinary at Ibrox.

[Juniper Greens]

Ah, didn't know that. Both Farense & Portimonense were in 2nd div when i went there. As an aside, on the general status of Portuguese footy. Pacos De Ferreira are currently 5th in league behind the usual 4. Their stadium holds less than 10k but could still accommodate the whole population of the town (though surrounding area is a fair bit higher). A nice story.
Might be a nice trip in the groups next season

[BILLYHIBS]

The ‘Scottish Messi’ called up to the Scotland squad by Stevie Clarke

Currently Captain of Vancouver Whitecaps in the MLS


Gunn
Clarke
McCrorie


Ralston
Johnston
Hanley
Porteous
McKenna
Soutar
Robertson
Taylor

Christie
Gauld
Gilmour
McLean
McGinn
McTominay

Doak
Forrest
Morgan
Shankland
Adams
Dykes
Conway

[Hibernian Verse]

The ‘Scottish Messi’ called up to the Scotland squad by Stevie Clarke

Currently Captain of Vancouver Whitecaps in the MLS


Gunn
Clarke
McCrorie


Ralston
Johnston
Hanley
Porteous
McKenna
Soutar
Robertson
Taylor

Christie
Gauld
Gilmour
McLean
McGinn
McTominay

Doak
Forrest
Morgan
Shankland
Adams
Dykes
Conway

8 weeks too late

[Spike Mandela]

Thought he showed flashes of the potentially great player he could be when with us. Hopefully, for Scotland's sake, we can get the best out of him now.

[DH1875]

8 weeks too late

What is?

[HoboHarry]

What is?

Maybe means Gauld should have been at the Euros?

[Since452]

Jesus. Clarke should maybe call it a day for a while.

[Hiber-nation]

The thought of these Nations League games is utterly depressing.

[Greenbeard]

Must have improved significantly over the last 2-3 years given he failed to impress in his albeit short spell here. Or is it just an indicator of how poor the depth of the Scotland squad is.

[GreenPJ]

Must have improved significantly over the last 2-3 years given he failed to impress in his albeit short spell here. Or is it just an indicator of how poor the depth of the Scotland squad is.

Don't think he was fit when he was with us - got a bad injury early on and only came to us initially when recovering from an injury I think. Not sure he is suited for style of Scottish football but a good player.

[Big_Franck]

Must have improved significantly over the last 2-3 years given he failed to impress in his albeit short spell here. Or is it just an indicator of how poor the depth of the Scotland squad is.

I think it's the latter. Also the poor standard of the MLS. I don't think he'll contribute much over the break and he'll struggle to get into a squad going forward. He's just not at that level IMO.

[HoboHarry]

Must have improved significantly over the last 2-3 years given he failed to impress in his albeit short spell here. Or is it just an indicator of how poor the depth of the Scotland squad is.

He is a very good player, the problem lies with the industrial nature of Scottish football which he wasn't at all suited to.

[Coco Bryce]

He is a very good player, the problem lies with the industrial nature of Scottish football which he wasn't at all suited to.

If that's the case he's nowhere near the level required for international competition.

[Cooshed Kid]

We can only hope it's a good call and that he can now offer more than when he was with us, when he was just A N Other in midfield. Clarke needs to try something different. Our national game (is it still?) is defaulting to being a national embarrassment after a brief period of hope.

[Centre Hawf]

People who championed for him to be in the Euros squad will get a shock at the gap between him and even someone like Ryan Christie.

Other than the odd starlet MLS is a very poor standard league with many players that would struggle to come over here and get a start for a Queens Park or Morton.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

We can only hope it's a good call and that he can now offer more than when he was with us, when he was just A N Other in midfield. Clarke needs to try something different. Our national game (is it still?) is defaulting to being a national embarrassment after a brief period of hope.

he hardly played for us. not every good played comes in and plays amazing from the word go. im not sure why people are so quick to judge. I remember watching Nathan Wood at middlesbrough and was delighted to see him come to hibs. he plays one game and all of a sudden hes the worst defender in the world. now he is back to playing to his standard and is a very good defender.
Gauld is a very good midfielder and im sure he wont be as bad for Scotland is some of you think.

[Hibernian Verse]

Maybe means Gauld should have been at the Euros?

I did

[Cooshed Kid]

he hardly played for us. not every good played comes in and plays amazing from the word go. im not sure why people are so quick to judge. I remember watching Nathan Wood at middlesbrough and was delighted to see him come to hibs. he plays one game and all of a sudden hes the worst defender in the world. now he is back to playing to his standard and is a very good defender.
Gauld is a very good midfielder and im sure he wont be as bad for Scotland is some of you think.

Don't judge me as judgmental. Kidding, I know your comment wasn't necessarily aimed at me. The only basis I have for holding any opinion of him whatsoever is what I saw of him wearing a Hibs shirt. I never noticed him before that, if I ever saw him at all. I deliberately made no comments on his abilities or application and just stated what I had observed, that he didn't shine for us in the games he played. If he is playing for Scotland he'll need to be a lot better than when he played for Hibs. I imagine we're in agreement on that. Clarke thinks he needs to make a change and Gauld has what's necessary as I acknowledged.

And I agree about Wood. I don't know if there was something behind the scenes we haven't been told, but that was a strange one. One game wasn't it and binned after a mistake, after arriving to great fanfare? It can't just be because of the boo-boys in a club like Hibs, can it? There surely had to be more.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Don't judge me as judgmental. Kidding, I know your comment wasn't necessarily aimed at me. The only basis I have for holding any opinion of him whatsoever is what I saw of him wearing a Hibs shirt. I never noticed him before that, if I ever saw him at all. I deliberately made no comments on his abilities or application and just stated what I had observed, that he didn't shine for us in the games he played. If he is playing for Scotland he'll need to be a lot better than when he played for Hibs. I imagine we're in agreement on that. Clarke thinks he needs to make a change and Gauld has what's necessary as I acknowledged.

And I agree about Wood. I don't know if there was something behind the scenes we haven't been told, but that was a strange one. One game wasn't it and binned after a mistake, after arriving to great fanfare? It can't just be because of the boo-boys in a club like Hibs, can it? There surely had to be more.

nah it wasnt a pesonal attack. just think its a shame that people say hes crap when he isnt. i think he will do good for Scotland.

[KWJ]

Don't understand the he was crap at Hibs comments really. He played a handful of games for us before getting injured. I don't recall him setting the world alight but I do remember a few decent passes and signs of potential. Then it was cut short through injury. To say he was crap seems illogical in that time.

[Hibernian Verse]

Don't understand the he was crap at Hibs comments really. He played a handful of games for us before getting injured. I don't recall him setting the world alight but I do remember a few decent passes and signs of potential. Then it was cut short through injury. To say he was crap seems illogical in that time.

As with everything these days people's opinions are so polarised it's a shame. They're either in one camp or the other with no room for a middle ground.