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Northernhibee
19-02-2021, 06:30 AM
On the social media pages talking about the heart condition that kept him out for so long. Glad he’s back in training and looking forward to seeing him get game time again. Top man.

Mon Dieu4
19-02-2021, 06:38 AM
Just watched this, what a guy, hopefully he's back firing on all cylinders soon

Weststandwanab
19-02-2021, 06:44 AM
Just watched this, what a guy, hopefully he's back firing on all cylinders soon

Just watched it so brave. I prey to see him play again for Hibs again and soon.

danhibees1875
19-02-2021, 06:45 AM
A really open interview. It must have been so tough for him at the time being diagnosed with this and the uncertainty around it.

Brightside
19-02-2021, 06:49 AM
Great stuff. The sky sports interview is so much better though. We need to get Luke Sharkey doing all out media.

hibbysam
19-02-2021, 06:56 AM
An inspiration not only to our young fans, but every single one of us. Faced adversity right through his career and still finding the courage to soldier on. I’m just glad he’s ours.

The Spaceman
19-02-2021, 07:06 AM
Amazing that he’s managed to come back as he has to be honest. Shows how much he loves the game as sounds like he is taking a fairly big (but managed) risk to keep playing. Very inspirational. Before his hiatus he was looking knackered at points, so this completely explains it/thank goodness it was picked up.

Delighted Scott is back playing for us in any capacity, he’s a special player. Main priority is making sure nothing deteriorates first and foremost for his health and everything else comes after.

Vault Boy
19-02-2021, 07:07 AM
What a brave man. Can't wait to see him gracing the pitch again.

Pretty Boy
19-02-2021, 07:10 AM
Absolutely amazing he is back playing. There are a couple of well known events involving footballer that were as a result of the same condition.

I think this highlights why situations like this should see the player dictate the narrative and tell the story on their terms.

He's already a pretty inspirational guy given the career he has managed with diabetes and this just adds to that. Obviously from a selfish point of view I hope he gets back to his best for Hibs but more importantly I hope he enjoys the rest of his career wherever it takes him. He deserves to.

Peevemor
19-02-2021, 07:13 AM
What was/is the problem? I won't be able to watch the interview until later today.

w pilton hibby
19-02-2021, 07:17 AM
What was/is the problem? I won't be able to watch the interview until later today.

'Diagnosed with hypertrophic cardio myopathy, a thickening of the heart’s walls that lead to tiring easily, struggling for breath and becoming dizzy.'

scoopyboy
19-02-2021, 07:21 AM
Absolutely amazing he is back playing. There are a couple of well known events involving footballer that were as a result of the same condition.

I think this highlights why situations like this should see the player dictate the narrative and tell the story on their terms.

He's already a pretty inspirational guy given the career he has managed with diabetes and this just adds to that. Obviously from a selfish point of view I hope he gets back to his best for Hibs but more importantly I hope he enjoys the rest of his career wherever it takes him. He deserves to.


Excellent comment and exactly the way I feel.

I think he started in a friendly against Dunfermline at Alloa earlier this week. The game was arranged to give players who had not been getting a lot of playing time some practice.

Pretty Boy
19-02-2021, 07:22 AM
What was/is the problem? I won't be able to watch the interview until later today.

Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

FilipinoHibs
19-02-2021, 07:23 AM
'Diagnosed with hypertrophic cardio myopathy, a thickening of the heart’s walls that lead to tiring easily, struggling for breath and becoming dizzy.'

Explains his tiredness and drop off in form. Brave and lovely young man. I love Scott Allan as a footballer and person.

scoopyboy
19-02-2021, 07:27 AM
Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

Can it be treated?

blackpoolhibs
19-02-2021, 07:28 AM
My favourite player in recent seasons has been Lewis Stevenson, he really is Mr Hibs, but the player i have enjoyed watching most since signing for us is Scott Allan.

He has wonderful feet, and the eye for a pass we've not seen at the club in a very long time.

Hopefully he can get back to full fitness, get back in the team on merit, but if not i hope he keeps healthy and is able to continue with life as normal as possible. :not worth

Peevemor
19-02-2021, 07:30 AM
'Diagnosed with hypertrophic cardio myopathy, a thickening of the heart’s walls that lead to tiring easily, struggling for breath and becoming dizzy.'


Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

OK thanks. :aok:

JimBHibees
19-02-2021, 07:34 AM
Where is the interview?

jacomo
19-02-2021, 07:38 AM
Where is the interview?


Hibs TV on Twitter and here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IURhRCKBZu8

Mon Scotty! Will be great to see you back on the park playing for Hibs.

green with envy
19-02-2021, 07:38 AM
Where is the interview?

You're welcome!:thumbsup:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IURhRCKBZu8

Blaster
19-02-2021, 07:39 AM
Can it be treated?

Treatment depends on the severity J. I have family members who have it and one quite severe. Beta blockers a can be used to manage the heart rate but other than regular monitoring there is not really any other major treatments (yet). I’m surprised he is still playing if I’m honest as even in its mildest form, elite sport is not recommended.

JohnMcM
19-02-2021, 07:55 AM
Now we can fully understand his fight and see he is a true footballing embodiment of perseverance.
Well played Scott. :top marks

DaveF
19-02-2021, 08:03 AM
Quite humbling to watch that and absolutely amazing that he is back in contention with the issues he deals with.

rossevenil
19-02-2021, 08:11 AM
Think the fact everyone could see at the time something wasn`t right,lots of people I knew and probably some comments on here were "he`s blown oot his erse" half way through a game,so glad they found the cause and have come up with a way to get him through this and hopefully keep the condition
under control,I like others heard the rumours that we may never see him play again and so glad that we have the chance to get him back in the team again.....even if its cameo appearances for the rest of the season from the bench all we need is a wee bit of
the magic of the Locksmith:greengrin

Onwards and Upwards Scotty!

Argylehibby
19-02-2021, 08:14 AM
It goes to show we don't know what is going on in a players personal life and we never consider that there may be an issue when dishing out criticism of them if their performances are not up to scratch. Scott a fair bit of stick about his performance, not being fit enough to see out a full game etc a while back and now we see why.

Sylar
19-02-2021, 08:33 AM
If that's his condition, I'm frankly surprised he's allowed to be back playing. There's a long history of this condition killing healthy players, dropping them in a second in the middle of a game/training session - it's unpredictable, and almost guaranteed to be fatal if he experiences a major event.

In most of those cases though, it was undiagnosed until after the fact - I hope there's a robust monitoring/treatment regime in process to help Scott during training and games since it HAS been caught.

Very brave and unfortunate young lad.

Col2
19-02-2021, 08:34 AM
Very open and brave to talk about that. Didn’t have to felt he needed to.

Wish him all the best in his career and beyond.

EdinMike
19-02-2021, 08:37 AM
With everything he’s managed to overcome and still become a professional athlete I’ve no doubt he’ll carry on. Persevere Scotty !

Bostonhibby
19-02-2021, 08:43 AM
My favourite player in recent seasons has been Lewis Stevenson, he really is Mr Hibs, but the player i have enjoyed watching most since signing for us is Scott Allan.

He has wonderful feet, and the eye for a pass we've not seen at the club in a very long time.

Hopefully he can get back to full fitness, get back in the team on merit, but if not i hope he keeps healthy and is able to continue with life as normal as possible. :not worth[emoji106]

There always has to be a place in a Hibs team for a player with Scott's level of ability when he's fit, an exciting entertaining player who can genuinely change a game for us.

Delighted when he's in good health, for him as much as for Hibs.

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green with envy
19-02-2021, 08:43 AM
If that's his condition, I'm frankly surprised he's allowed to be back playing. There's a long history of this condition killing healthy players, dropping them in a second in the middle of a game/training session - it's unpredictable, and almost guaranteed to be fatal if he experiences a major event.

In most of those cases though, it was undiagnosed until after the fact - I hope there's a robust monitoring/treatment regime in process to help Scott during training and games since it HAS been caught.

Very brave and unfortunate young lad.

And yet is does say in the interview that a lot of players have went on to fulfill a long career after being diagnosed. Don't you believe the medical experts that have game him the green light to continue playing?:confused:

lucky
19-02-2021, 08:46 AM
Incredible to think what he’s been through medically. He says he’s not fit and needs games so why did Ross play him in the semi final?

04Sauzee
19-02-2021, 08:48 AM
Incredible to think what he’s been through medically. He says he’s not fit and needs games so why did Ross play him in the semi final?

Because we were getting humped and he needs games.
I'm sure JR would love to be giving him more minutes. Maybe it's down to how he's feeling on the day?
No idea really

Pretty Boy
19-02-2021, 08:51 AM
And yet is does say in the interview that a lot of players have went on to fulfill a long career after being diagnosed. Don't you believe the medical experts that have game him the green light to continue playing?:confused:

Tbh my initial reaction was to be stunned that he was allowed to continue playing. I referenced it above but it's the same condition that Marc Vivien Foe and Miklos Feher were found to have had. It was also a variation of the same illness that forced Fabrice Muamba to retire.

Of course medical science advances all the time and all the incidents I've mentioned above happened several years ago now and all of them were diagnosed after the event. I think when the only exposure people may have had to cardiomyopathy in the past is of it being fatal or potentially so then it's natural there is curiosity. I don't think that's a bad thing either.

660
19-02-2021, 08:52 AM
Makes me proud of Hibs this type of stuff. We really look after our players compared to other clubs.

Blaster
19-02-2021, 08:55 AM
And yet is does say in the interview that a lot of players have went on to fulfill a long career after being diagnosed. Don't you believe the medical experts that have game him the green light to continue playing?:confused:

As I said in my message earlier elite sport is not generally recommended based on my experience. It may be that the regular medical screening is more readily available to him privately which isn’t available to most folk via NHS.

I think everyone is glad he is able to continue 👍

bingo70
19-02-2021, 08:58 AM
If that's his condition, I'm frankly surprised he's allowed to be back playing. There's a long history of this condition killing healthy players, dropping them in a second in the middle of a game/training session - it's unpredictable, and almost guaranteed to be fatal if he experiences a major event.

In most of those cases though, it was undiagnosed until after the fact - I hope there's a robust monitoring/treatment regime in process to help Scott during training and games since it HAS been caught.

Very brave and unfortunate young lad.

I don’t know if you’ve watched the short clip on the Hibs website or the full length one on Sky but the interview with Luke Shanley he goes a bit deeper into how he’s able to continue playing.

Daily tests, regular heart checks and he’s spoken with other professional sportsmen who have been able to continue playing.

He also said his condition is relatively mild and not as sever as it could have been. I assume that was a factor in how he is able to continue playing.

.Sean.
19-02-2021, 09:06 AM
https://youtu.be/IURhRCKBZu8

Full 20 minute Sky interview here

JohnM1875
19-02-2021, 09:18 AM
Superb stuff. What a man! Can't wait til he's back.

Have we really just filmed David Tanner asking questions then used the Sky Sports interviews answers? 😂

Diclonius
19-02-2021, 09:18 AM
Between this and the diabetes it really hasn't been easy for him. Fantastic that he's still able to play.

worcesterhibby
19-02-2021, 09:19 AM
He is a great player, he has a fantastic attitude to the medical setbacks he has had to cope with, AND he still manages to keep his hair looking gorgeous even in lockdown !!!! :not worth:not worth

bingo70
19-02-2021, 09:19 AM
“He’s lazy”
“Got a bad attitude”
“Doesn’t try hard enough”

Hopefully all these myths can be put to bed now.

I’ve banged this drum before but for him to get to the level he has he’s probably had to work 10x as hard as other players.

Absolutely inspirational guy IMO. I really hope he is looking to get into management after he’s finished playing football as imo he’s clearly made of the right stuff for it.

Peevemor
19-02-2021, 09:22 AM
“He’s lazy”
“Got a bad attitude”
“Doesn’t try hard enough”

Hopefully all these myths can be put to bed now.

I’ve banged this drum before but for him to get to the level he has he’s probably had to work 10x as hard as other players.

Absolutely inspirational guy IMO. I really hope he is looking to get into management after he’s finished playing football as imo he’s clearly made of the right stuff for it.

To be fair, these criticisms haven't been widespread at all on here.

bingo70
19-02-2021, 09:27 AM
To be fair, these criticisms haven't been widespread at all on here.

I think at times they have been, although I suppose how you define widespread would be a factor. Theres certainly been times I’ve argued with posters about it.

I know that cos I’ve got on my high horse a few times about it.

I also think it was a reputation he came to the club with, which clearly isn’t the fault of anybody on this board.

1van Sprou7e
19-02-2021, 09:29 AM
Incredible to think what he’s been through medically. He says he’s not fit and needs games so why did Ross play him in the semi final?

May have literally just been to give the squad and fans a boost amidst a terrible result

Mr Grieves
19-02-2021, 09:50 AM
https://youtu.be/IURhRCKBZu8

Full 20 minute Sky interview here

That's a remarkably candid interview and fair play to Scott for being so honest, it wouldn't have been easy. It's great to hear that this can be managed so he can continue playing and well done to the club for standing by him.

Vault Boy
19-02-2021, 09:50 AM
Just got round to watching the full version of Scott's interview on Sky. (Luke Shanley is great at his job).

Really can't speak highly enough of Scott's character, bravery, and resolve. The interview is so refreshingly candid, but also difficult, and rather emotional, which is to be expected given the subject matter.

He's clearly a very intelligent guy and always seems to take a philosophical approach to the challenges posed by his physical conditions. It takes a rare kind of person to deal with the obstacles he's faced, let alone to come out with a positive outlook on things, what an inspiration.

You're some man, Scott. 💚

HH81
19-02-2021, 10:14 AM
Having known someone personally who died on a pitch from a heart condition which they were unaware of and played for years with it.

It is pleasing this was found and he can carry on.

green with envy
19-02-2021, 10:16 AM
Tbh my initial reaction was to be stunned that he was allowed to continue playing. I referenced it above but it's the same condition that Marc Vivien Foe and Miklos Feher were found to have had. It was also a variation of the same illness that forced Fabrice Muamba to retire.

Of course medical science advances all the time and all the incidents I've mentioned above happened several years ago now and all of them were diagnosed after the event. I think when the only exposure people may have had to cardiomyopathy in the past is of it being fatal or potentially so then it's natural there is curiosity. I don't think that's a bad thing either.

It would have been my reaction too. However, after watching his interview there was no reason to be stunned. It all seemed fairly straightforward after listening to what Scott said in his interview that he has now got the green light to continue playing.

Cat Stanton
19-02-2021, 10:21 AM
To be fair, these criticisms haven't been widespread at all on here.

Just out of curiosity, how does this actual diagnosis of a heart problem tally with all the rumours and speculation that were going around on social media? It's a genuine question - I don't do Twitter, but people on here were saying it was being discussed a lot 'out there' by twitter experts... Did anyone actually know what was really going on, or was it all mince?

Pretty Boy
19-02-2021, 10:28 AM
It would have been my reaction too. However, after watching his interview there was no reason to be stunned. It all seemed fairly straightforward after listening to what Scott said in his interview that he has now got the green light to continue playing.

Definitely. My reaction was an instantaneous one before I watched the whole interview and read a bit more elsewhere.

That's why I'm glad this was reported on Hibs and Scott's terms. It allows things to be explained clearly and people with questions to be accommodated and able to understand. Commendable all round.

FilipinoHibs
19-02-2021, 10:29 AM
https://youtu.be/IURhRCKBZu8

Full 20 minute Sky interview here

Wow that was a tear jerker. Proud of Scott and the club.

Pretty Boy
19-02-2021, 10:32 AM
Just out of curiosity, how does this actual diagnosis of a heart problem tally with all the rumours and speculation that were going around on social media? It's a genuine question - I don't do Twitter, but people on here were saying it was being discussed a lot 'out there' by twitter experts... Did anyone actually know what was really going on, or was it all mince?

There was a lot of rumours on Twitter. I think some were fairly close to the mark whilst others were way off.

Very early on we made a decision to limit conversation about it on here because it was pretty clear Hibs and Scott wanted to control the narrative on this and that the disclosure of the truth was something Scott as an individual had the right to control the timing off. Having watched the interviews today I think we called it right.

FilipinoHibs
19-02-2021, 10:32 AM
Just out of curiosity, how does this actual diagnosis of a heart problem tally with all the rumours and speculation that were going around on social media? It's a genuine question - I don't do Twitter, but people on here were saying it was being discussed a lot 'out there' by twitter experts... Did anyone actually know what was really going on, or was it all mince?

Rumors I saw on doing a Google search was that it was a heart issue and his career was over.

Cat Stanton
19-02-2021, 10:35 AM
There was a lot of rumours on Twitter. I think some were fairly close to the mark whilst others were way off.

Very early on we made a decision to limit conversation about it on here because it was pretty clear Hibs and Scott wanted to control the narrative on this and that the disclosure of the truth was something Scott as an individual had the right to control the timing off. Having watched the interviews today I think we called it right.

that's helpful - thanks.

and yes, absolutely right to limit discussion of confidential medical issues on here (even among the legendary ITK posters.. (NB joke))

Keith_M
19-02-2021, 10:57 AM
It goes to show we don't know what is going on in a players personal life and we never consider that there may be an issue when dishing out criticism of them if their performances are not up to scratch. Scott a fair bit of stick about his performance, not being fit enough to see out a full game etc a while back and now we see why.


Yep, that was the most common complaint abut him I saw last season, plus a few people questioning his commitment.

It just goes to show that we maybe judge players unfairly a lot more than we'd care to admit.

I'm glad his career's not over yet, but I think we maybe shouldn't expect too much from him this season.

weecounty hibby
19-02-2021, 10:57 AM
I think the admins on the site should be commended for the way they controlled the story on here. Hibs and Scott clearly wanted a level of privacy and to control the narrative. Folk speculating about what was wrong wouldn't help that. So well done. And also well done to Hibs and Scott. Hope he is back soon as possible

Northernhibee
19-02-2021, 10:58 AM
I think the admins on the site should be commended for the way they controlled the story on here. Hibs and Scott clearly wanted a level of privacy and to control the narrative. Folk speculating about what was wrong wouldn't help that. So well done. And also well done to Hibs and Scott. Hope he is back soon as possible

I also have to say well done to David Tanner - he gets a lot of stick on here but the interview on social media was pitched perfectly in terms of tone and questioning.

scoopyboy
19-02-2021, 10:59 AM
There was a lot of rumours on Twitter. I think some were fairly close to the mark whilst others were way off.

Very early on we made a decision to limit conversation about it on here because it was pretty clear Hibs and Scott wanted to control the narrative on this and that the disclosure of the truth was something Scott as an individual had the right to control the timing off. Having watched the interviews today I think we called it right.

Admins 100% called it right.

I knew it was a heart condition but I didn't know exactly what, I was told back in September that he wouldn't play again.

Was later told that insurance company was involved and retirement due to ill health was on the cards but it all took time.

More recently told that second opinions were being sought and then obviously he was back in the squad.

Not saying for a minute all of what I was told was correct and to be honest it doesn't matter a jot if it was right or wrong.

Important thing is Scott is back within touching distance to starting a game for Hibs, something a lot of people (including players) didn't think would happen.

The worst thing I have ever witnessed on a football pitch was Alen Orman at Easter Road years ago when I thought I was witnessing something tragic.

When it was announced that Scott was on his way back that was the first thing that sprang to my mind. However I am sure it wouldn't be allowed if he was in danger and we can look forward to his fantastic fight against the odds continue.

Pretty Boy, feel free to delete or edit this post if you deem necessary.

Northernhibee
19-02-2021, 11:03 AM
Admins 100% called it right.

I knew it was a heart condition but I didn't know exactly what, I was told back in September that he wouldn't play again.

Was later told that insurance company was involved and retirement due to ill health was on the cards but it all took time.

More recently told that second opinions were being sought and then obviously he was back in the squad.

Not saying for a minute all of what I was told was correct and to be honest it doesn't matter a jot if it was right or wrong.

Important thing is Scott is back within touching distance to starting a game for Hibs, something a lot of people (including players) didn't think would happen.

The worst thing I have ever witnessed on a football pitch was Alen Orman at Easter Road years ago when I thought I was witnessing something tragic.

When it was announced that Scott was on his way back that was the first thing that sprang to my mind. However I am sure it wouldn't be allowed if he was in danger and we can look forward to his fantastic fight against the odds continue.

Pretty Boy, feel free to delete or edit this post if you deem necessary.


Good post :agree:

I also do think there's a place for some of these things - the level of which is debateable - to be posted at the time.

For a player to disappear from the squad for several months without an awareness of "it's something very serious which club and player want to keep under wraps for just now" almost makes it more likely that someone will go in like a bull in a china shop and make comments like "always injured, get rid" without realising that it's a serious issue that's panning out. Knowing that Scott was going through a potentially career threatening issue forces people to keep it respectful and also allows admins to shut down speculation.

.net's handled it well, kudos.

Magpie
19-02-2021, 11:09 AM
I’m happy for him that he’s feeling great now. I wish supporters could have been there to welcome him back.

Sean1875
19-02-2021, 11:14 AM
Just shows how incredibly talented the guy is to have these background medical conditions and still have had the career he has and still continuing to push for a start in a team sitting third in the top league in the country - Scottys an inspiration and were very lucky to have him! :flag:

jeffers
19-02-2021, 11:16 AM
Admins 100% called it right.

I knew it was a heart condition but I didn't know exactly what, I was told back in September that he wouldn't play again.

Was later told that insurance company was involved and retirement due to ill health was on the cards but it all took time.

More recently told that second opinions were being sought and then obviously he was back in the squad.

Not saying for a minute all of what I was told was correct and to be honest it doesn't matter a jot if it was right or wrong.

Important thing is Scott is back within touching distance to starting a game for Hibs, something a lot of people (including players) didn't think would happen.

The worst thing I have ever witnessed on a football pitch was Alen Orman at Easter Road years ago when I thought I was witnessing something tragic.

When it was announced that Scott was on his way back that was the first thing that sprang to my mind. However I am sure it wouldn't be allowed if he was in danger and we can look forward to his fantastic fight against the odds continue.

Pretty Boy, feel free to delete or edit this post if you deem necessary.

Heard the exact same thing as you Scoopyboy. I genuinely believe that after his first diagnosis was given retirement was definitely considered.

I’m absolutely delighted the news is now so positive, from Scott Allan’s perspective and from a selfish point of view because I want to see him back in a Hibs jersey again. I’ve never hidden my thoughts on him as a player, watching someone with his ability is why I love football.

I would hope given time he will get back to his best and if possible will be an even better player and he will finally get the Scotland call up his talents deserve.

yerauldda
19-02-2021, 11:19 AM
The full interview is terrific. Luke Shanley is excellent at his job.
The way everyone has managed this has been truly commendable but Scott is an inspiration. He seems to have taken everything in his stride and managed to turn it into a motivation.
He’s also managed to spread awareness for both of his illnesses brilliantly and never looks for any sympathy, just keen to knuckle down and play football.
The last question about the club almost had me going, there’s a real connection between Hibs and Scott Allan, delighted to see him back.

Also, there’s a career in the media after football if he wants it, he’s incredibly articulate and very likeable too!

Since452
19-02-2021, 11:44 AM
Hibs and Scott have conducted themselves with class though all of this. Well done to both but especially Scott. Wish the lad nothing but good luck in getting back into the side and playing regularly.

Lago
19-02-2021, 12:16 PM
Scott is one young man that can genuinely be held up as role model, he deserves so much credit for the way he has conducted himself.

Carheenlea
19-02-2021, 12:19 PM
The extended interview is a wonderful listen. Scott Allan comes across as a humble and dignified man and has made the most of a career with so many health obstacles in the way.

Really glad that Hibs managed the situation in the manner they did.

JohnMcM
19-02-2021, 12:23 PM
I’m happy for him that he’s feeling great now. I wish supporters could have been there to welcome him back.

If we are not there physically we can carry him in spirit high upon our shoulders. :agree:

Seveno
19-02-2021, 12:26 PM
I am full of admiration for Scott for the way he has handled this issue and his determination to overcome both health issues.

It is such a shame that he can’t walk out to a packed Easter Road tomorrow so that we could express our love and support.

CMurdoch
19-02-2021, 12:26 PM
Can it be treated?

From his interview it can be monitored and managed which is similar to his diabetes.
He was fortunate to get a warning from his body and importantly switched on enough not to ignore it.
The interview is very positive and there is even a chance his performances could improve given he has refined his diet and as such is taking even greater care of his diabetes. He is also aware of the condition now which he states is at the milder end of the spectrum so all as good an outcome as he and we could have hoped for.
It really is amazing that he has been able to play at the standard he has, given he will have had this issue the whole of his career and the difference between a good and great player can be as simple as a tiny bit more stamina or speed.

CMurdoch
19-02-2021, 12:33 PM
Incredible to think what he’s been through medically. He says he’s not fit and needs games so why did Ross play him in the semi final?

I think it was good man management.
The manager decided to give Scott something tangible to show him he really was on the way back.
The game was humped so he pulled something positive out of it.

Northernhibee
19-02-2021, 12:47 PM
If we are not their physically we can carry him in spirit high upon our shoulders. :agree:

If people like the idea, I've found a website that allows you to create a "virtual greetings card" where people can add their own contribution and message, photo etc like on a birthday or greetings card going round an office. Started it off at https://my.kindeo.com/contribute/vpdkpecv3kc7apw if people think it'd be a good idea, then we could send it onto the club?

If people think it's got legs as an idea, I'll start a new thread. Would be nice to give everyone a chance to welcome the big man back to action :thumbsup:

JohnMcM
19-02-2021, 12:51 PM
If people like the idea, I've found a website that allows you to create a "virtual greetings card" where people can add their own contribution like on a birthday or greetings card going round an office. Started it off at https://my.kindeo.com/contribute/vpdkpecv3kc7apw if people think it'd be a good idea, then we could send it onto the club?

If people think it's got legs as an idea, I'll start a new thread. Would be nice to give everyone a chance to welcome the big man back to action :thumbsup:

That's a great idea. Sadly, I feel I should advise against. Non-Hibs people will likely abuse it if they can access it.:rolleyes:

Northernhibee
19-02-2021, 12:55 PM
That's a great idea. Sadly, I feel I should advise against. Non-Hibs people will likely abuse it if they can access it.:rolleyes:

I can delete slides off it I seem to think.

Cat Stanton
19-02-2021, 12:56 PM
I’m happy for him that he’s feeling great now. I wish supporters could have been there to welcome him back.

Indeed. Though I'm not sure many would still have been in Hampden by the time he came on even if fans were allowed...

scoopyboy
19-02-2021, 01:00 PM
From his interview it can be monitored and managed which is similar to his diabetes.
He was fortunate to get a warning from his body and importantly switched on enough not to ignore it.
The interview is very positive and there is even a chance his performances could improve given he has refined his diet and as such is taking even greater care of his diabetes. He is also aware of the condition now which he states is at the milder end of the spectrum so all as good an outcome as he and we could have hoped for.
It really is amazing that he has been able to play at the standard he has, given he will have had this issue the whole of his career and the difference between a good and great player can be as simple as a tiny bit more stamina or speed.

Thanks CM, will watch it when I get home from work.

green day
19-02-2021, 01:13 PM
Great interview by Luke S on Sky - this is the long version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IURhRCKBZu8

Scott Allan, and Hibs have managed this very well, he saw 3 specialists.

I truly hope to see him back at top form................but as always, his health is the first priority.

JohnMcM
19-02-2021, 01:13 PM
I can delete slides off it I seem to think.

That could be a full-time job :wink:

G B Young
19-02-2021, 01:14 PM
The extended interview is a wonderful listen. Scott Allan comes across as a humble and dignified man and has made the most of a career with so many health obstacles in the way.

Really glad that Hibs managed the situation in the manner they did.

Agree with all of that. Scott Allan and Hibs just clicked from day one and I can't wait to see him back playing again for a club you can tell he regards as his natural home. It's very exciting to think we have a player of his calibre waiting in the wings. I know he's played many games for Hibs over the last few years but it's like having a brilliant new signing just waiting to be unveiled.

superfurryhibby
19-02-2021, 01:44 PM
I can delete slides off it I seem to think.

Excellent idea from you.

McD
19-02-2021, 02:23 PM
I think the admins on the site should be commended for the way they controlled the story on here. Hibs and Scott clearly wanted a level of privacy and to control the narrative. Folk speculating about what was wrong wouldn't help that. So well done. And also well done to Hibs and Scott. Hope he is back soon as possible


:agree:

iirc, there was also a lot of borderline snidey comments being made about the admins in regards to trying to minimise the conversation and speculation on here about SA’s condition, so well done to the admins not only for how they handled the situation but also doing that in the face of how they were spoken about on here

good news about Scott, whatever happens going forward I hope that he and his loved ones are happy and healthy

A Hi-Bee
19-02-2021, 02:52 PM
Great news for the young man, now perhaps the gossips and the nosey ones will just mind there own business. (Although I doubt it) some of the gossips on here will realise that something’s are just not for the nosey ones to know and gossip about over the washing line.
:thumbsup:

G B Young
19-02-2021, 03:07 PM
I think the admins on the site should be commended for the way they controlled the story on here. Hibs and Scott clearly wanted a level of privacy and to control the narrative. Folk speculating about what was wrong wouldn't help that. So well done. And also well done to Hibs and Scott. Hope he is back soon as possible

Spot on.

While I'm obviously especially pleased that the story is about a very talented Hibs player battling through a potentiallly career-ending affliction, I'd be pleased for any footballer (or indeed any sportsman or woman) in such circumstances no matter what club they played for. However on the BBC Scotland live football feed this afternoon, the number of folk who have decided to select the 'thumbs down' on this story bewilders me. Why would you do that?

Oscar T Grouch
19-02-2021, 03:12 PM
Great interview. It must be really difficult for an athlete to live on a low carb diet, I am a T1 myself and not an athlete, in fact I'm probably the polar opposite to an athlete and it is difficult enough for me. To have these two conditions and to still have the desire and drive to play and succeed at the top level of football in this country is testament to his character. Can't wait for him to be slipping beautiful passes through to our strikers once again.

Hibeesforever
19-02-2021, 03:22 PM
Scott is a credit to himself and the club...I hope he can get back to his previous form...

gbhibby
19-02-2021, 03:28 PM
Looking forward to a Scott Allan pass. Club and Scott have handled this impeccably.

h1bs4life
19-02-2021, 03:32 PM
What an incredibly brave guy , a credit to his family and himself.
Brilliant the way the club have rallied round as well .
Good luck to the guy not only in football but in life outside it.
A real role model

JohnMcM
19-02-2021, 03:54 PM
Admins,
Forgive me if this comes across as pushy.

I wondered if the Scott Allan thread about his interview could maybe be closed - so the Northernhibee thread with electronic message to Scott doesn’t get lost or overlooked?

Just a thought.

BroxburnHibee
19-02-2021, 03:59 PM
Admins,
Forgive me if this comes across as pushy.

I wondered if the Scott Allan thread about his interview could maybe be closed - so the Northernhibee thread with electronic message to Scott doesn’t get lost or overlooked?

Just a thought.

If Northern wants it closed then happy to help but think most folk can work it out to be honest.

JohnMcM
19-02-2021, 04:08 PM
If Northern wants it closed then happy to help but think most folk can work it out to be honest.

Ok, fair enough. I understand where you are coming from.:aok:

Northernhibee
19-02-2021, 04:11 PM
If Northern wants it closed then happy to help but think most folk can work it out to be honest.

I don't mind and that wasn't what's intended - happy for both to be open and I'll manage it with a couple of bumps here and there.

Since452
19-02-2021, 07:28 PM
Number of times he got taken off early and the fans were up in arms. All makes sense now. Hadn't looked himself for a while. Scott is a magnificent footballer. More talent in his wee toe than most players could dream of. Keeping everything crossed for him that the worst is now behind him and he can get back to doing what he's good at at a place where he's loved.

JoeT
19-02-2021, 08:43 PM
Just skim read some posts. Being diabetic and doing exercise is pretty tough.As a diabetic Ive gone from 15 stones to 12 in a few years having a couple of seizures as a random consequence. Couch to 5k to half marathon in 2 years has been great for me but blood sugar management with the training is so difficult. Scotty is a hero. One of the most dynamic midfielders in Scottish football having to balance diabetes being an athlete is amazing. We are lucky to have him

Lancs Harp
19-02-2021, 08:48 PM
Just skim read some posts. Being diabetic and doing exercise is pretty tough. Ive gone from 15 stones to 12 in a few years having a couple of seizures as a random consequence. Couch to 5k to half marathon in 2 years has been great for me but blood sugar management with the training is so difficult. Scotty is a hero. One of the most dynamic midfielders in Scottish football having to balance diabetes being an athlete is amazing. We are lucky to have him

Well done in your own personal battle fella and good luck going forward :aok:

kentao
19-02-2021, 09:39 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/MWPjWvfII49a2Ffasp/giphy.gif

007
19-02-2021, 10:51 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/MWPjWvfII49a2Ffasp/giphy.gif

Love that "scrappy" goal.

Really pleased that Scotty's feeling good and hopefully will get a start soon. Can see him staying with us for a good few years and would be delighted if he did.

💚💚

blackpoolhibs
20-02-2021, 06:53 AM
Watching the video again, it looks to me as if Scott has bulked up a wee bit on his upper body.

Viva_Palmeiras
20-02-2021, 07:09 AM
Amazing fortitude from this young man facing adversity of the cards fate has dealt him.

I was some what shocked that screening isn’t already in place. (Moira Gordon’s article states he’s along a call for widespread screening.

I thought that whole point about learning the lessons from Molumbo and the young Hibs and Heart youths that died within days of each other ????!!!!!!

I could make other points but I didn’t want to dilute my shock. Relatively speaking There’s a lot of money in football is this not where some of the football money should go before almost everything else???

oxymoron
20-02-2021, 08:28 AM
:agree::agree::agree:
It goes to show we don't know what is going on in a players personal life and we never consider that there may be an issue when dishing out criticism of them if their performances are not up to scratch. Scott a fair bit of stick about his performance, not being fit enough to see out a full game etc a while back and now we see why.

davym7062
20-02-2021, 08:33 AM
what an amazing interview, i can wait to get back in the ground and cheer this laddie onto the pitch. welcome back scotty :not worth:not worth

Bishop Hibee
20-02-2021, 08:40 AM
Comes across as a great guy and we all know what a great player he is. Hopefully he can get back to his best with us.

rossevenil
20-02-2021, 08:53 AM
I just wonder how much this medical condition has affected him prior to this season??? Clearly the 1st couple of months it truly came to a head when he felt that something was seriously wrong but I just wonder
how often in the past he maybe felt drained in the latter stages of a game and didn`t realise it was something to do with this?
He himself has said he feels so much better now,I wouldn`t be surprised if we actually see a stronger and actually fitter Scotty next season after a pre season working around the condition as opposed to
all those pre seasons when they weren`t aware of it and probably put it down to just being out of condition?

jeffers
20-02-2021, 09:07 AM
I just wonder how much this medical condition has affected him prior to this season??? Clearly the 1st couple of months it truly came to a head when he felt that something was seriously wrong but I just wonder
how often in the past he maybe felt drained in the latter stages of a game and didn`t realise it was something to do with this?
He himself has said he feels so much better now,I wouldn`t be surprised if we actually see a stronger and actually fitter Scotty next season after a pre season working around the condition as opposed to
all those pre seasons when they weren`t aware of it and probably put it down to just being out of condition?

I think it must have to at least some extent, I don’t believe this condition has only arisen in the past 7 months or so. Just delighted for him that it has been diagnosed.

FilipinoHibs
20-02-2021, 11:32 AM
Watching the video again, it looks to me as if Scott has bulked up a wee bit on his upper body.

Gogic in his pre match Hamilton interview says he has been doing a lot if work in the gym.

FilipinoHibs
20-02-2021, 11:33 AM
I think it must have to at least some extent, I don’t believe this condition has only arisen in the past 7 months or so. Just delighted for him that it has been diagnosed.
He was often taken off far from the end if the game.Probabky explains why.

Peevemor
22-02-2021, 11:51 AM
Editorial from the Hootsman


Hibs' Scott Allan plays the kind of football we all like - and we need him back
The football fan likes the player to “get” his club, to perform in such a way as to be emblematic of a style and a tradition. That is more difficult in the modern game when no one stays with the same team forever or for very long at all, but Scott Allan and Hibs seem to go together.
By Aidan Smith
Sunday, 21st February 2021, 7:30 am


Three displays might sum this up: the match against Rangers in his first spell, 4-0, with all the goals created by him. The match at Ibrox beginning his second spell, playing like he’d never been away, pulling all the strings, another victory. And the match at Ibrox in his third spell, conjuring up the “pass of the millennium” for Daryl Horgan’s goal. That was very Hibs, raving about an assist when your team had been leathered 6-1, and there was a lot of teasing from Rangers supporters, from many clubs in fact.


But fans from all over have been warm in their wishes for Allan to make a full recovery from his heart condition and get back to playing his best. He spoke well to Sky’s Luke Shanley when describing his anxiety - but not his out-and-out fear - over whether he would ever pull on his boots and craft another of those killer reverse passes. I wasn’t surprised by that, remembering how smart he’d been in a long interview - not something all players like - back in 2017 when he was on loan from Celtic at Dundee.


Pondering his status in the Scottish game he said: “Hearts fans probably don’t like me because I played for Hibs. Hibs fans probably don’t like me because I left. Rangers fans probably don’t like me because I went to Celtic. I started at Dundee United but their fans probably don’t like me because I’m now at Dundee. Celtic fans know that when I was a wee boy my favourite team were Rangers and that’s probably a good enough reason for Aberdeen fans to not like me. It’s a shambles!”


All of this, by the way, was presented with that fetching smile of his; he wasn’t remotely feeling sorry for himself. Same as now. He suffers from a condition that has turned out to be career-ending for some footballers, life-ending for others, but he is determined to beat it.


Hibs fans have forgiven Allan for leaving and now that he’s back they couldn’t love him more. The tradition he’s continuing is that of the old-school inside-forward: Bobby Johnstone then Alex Cropley then Russell Latapy and now Allan.


But beyond Easter Road that’s also a Scottish tradition: the guy in the middle of the park, never tall but big in ideas, with dancing feet to go with the bold, adventurous mind. In that interview four years ago he told me: “When I play I want folk to go: ‘I saw something out there today. That’s the kind of football I like.’” The kind we all like. It’s cheering he has had his condition identified and a procedure for keeping it in check established. Hopefully his full return will coincide with our full return for Allan needs an audience if he’s going to top THAT PASS.


https://www.scotsman.com/sport/sport-opinion/hibs-scott-allan-plays-the-kind-of-football-we-all-like-and-we-need-him-back-3141457

Diclonius
22-02-2021, 12:17 PM
Still the best midfielder I've seen at Hibs bar McGinn.

HoboHarry
02-03-2021, 07:35 PM
Out in the open now then....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56259500

calumhibee1
02-03-2021, 07:41 PM
Still the best midfielder I've seen at Hibs bar McGinn.

Latapy would be in there ahead of Allan for me but other than that I’d agree. He’s produced some ridiculous moments of genius.

FilipinoHibs
02-03-2021, 08:21 PM
Latapy would be in there ahead of Allan for me but other than that I’d agree. He’s produced some ridiculous moments of genius.

Cropley, Edwards and Stanton would be joined by Latapy in the best midfielders I have seen in the flesh.

Criswell
02-03-2021, 09:50 PM
Treatment depends on the severity J. I have family members who have it and one quite severe. Beta blockers a can be used to manage the heart rate but other than regular monitoring there is not really any other major treatments (yet). I’m surprised he is still playing if I’m honest as even in its mildest form, elite sport is not recommended.

I was diagnosed with Hypertophic Cardiomyopathy about ten years ago. I had to go into to hospital to have Septal Ablation of the heart. This is a procedure which thins out the thickened muscle and allows the heart to function more normally. In my case this proved to be a success although I am on Beta-Blockers for life.

I think you can have varying degrees of severity of the condition and if Scott Allan is allowed to continue playing his case might not be too serious which would be good news. Hopefully we will see him back playing at his best soon.

hibbysam
02-03-2021, 10:44 PM
I was diagnosed with Hypertophic Cardiomyopathy about ten years ago. I had to go into to hospital to have Septal Ablation of the heart. This is a procedure which thins out the thickened muscle and allows the heart to function more normally. In my case this proved to be a success although I am on Beta-Blockers for life.

I think you can have varying degrees of severity of the condition and if Scott Allan is allowed to continue playing his case might not be too serious which would be good news. Hopefully we will see him back playing at his best soon.

Scott said on Sportsound tonight he has a mild case of it, Daley Blind at Ajax has a worse case of it and has a monitor inside him for it.
Very good interview about how he’s feeling, what he’s gone through, how difficult it is just now when he can’t get games in and how fit he’s now feeling in terms of numbers.

660
02-03-2021, 11:15 PM
Zemmama was better than Allan

Centre Hawf
02-03-2021, 11:36 PM
Zemmama was better than Allan

Close one, Zemmama was a quality wee player as well. Perhaps on his day Zemmama was shades better but I don't think he was as consistent as many remember he was either.

Scott may edge it for me

B.H.F.C
02-03-2021, 11:57 PM
Close one, Zemmama was a quality wee player as well. Perhaps on his day Zemmama was shades better but I don't think he was as consistent as many remember he was either.

Scott may edge it for me

I watched a lot of old videos not so long ago, think it was on Hibs TV, from around 2006, 2007.

There were games that I don’t even remember and some of the play from Zemamma and Benji was absolutely outstanding. Definitely wasn’t consistent but when he (and Benji as well) wanted to play they could be unplayable. Some proper quality goals between them.

HoboHarry
03-03-2021, 12:32 AM
Cropley, Edwards and Stanton would be joined by Latapy in the best midfielders I have seen in the flesh.
Le God as well, he came to us as a midfielder.....

MagicSwirlingShip
03-03-2021, 01:23 AM
Zemmama was better than Allan

Nope, loved Zemmama but Scotty wins that one.

jacomo
03-03-2021, 12:49 PM
Zemmama was better than Allan


Don’t be silly.