Terry Christie (SHC)

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Like many I have been listening to a load of podcasts.

This Nutmeg interview with TerryChristie who I guess is known to many on here has a lot of Hibs content, particularly at the very end where he tells the story of being offered theHibs manager job three times

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1U01S7I51Y92KwtNDCZMw2?si=zkNTensuRaumyE032VktWg

The interview with Andy Ritchie in the same series is incredible. (Next to NHC.)

[Bostonhibby]

My old chemistry teacher, good guy, will definitely give it a listen

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[Keyser Sauzee]

My old Headmaster, good guy and let those of us who played in the school football team away with murder 😂 glad to hear he’s still kicking about

[Brightside]

My old Headmaster, good guy and let those of us who played in the school football team away with murder 😂 glad to hear he’s still kicking about

Mine also...

[King Cosell]

Is he still knocking off sweet Marie?

[MKHIBEE]

Is he still knocking off sweet Marie?

That was his brother Tony, he got into some serious trouble for it

[gbhibby]

The Dufflecoat Master.

[EI255]

Not sure Hibs fans would have accepted him as manager. No offence to the geezer, but I certainly wouldn't have at the time.

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[kaimendhibs]

Mine also...My memory is hazy, cant mind if he was my head or deputy head.

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[O'Rourke3]

Was Deputy Head at Porty. Very first assembly at the High School he gave me a gentle punch in the stomach for acting up as 400 first years waited outside the school to be told how to get in. I'm not sure he ever spoke to me in my time there.
First game I ever attended was Bo'ness vs East Stirling in a pre season friendly. TC was in the ES team.
Xmas dance my mate Malcolm git very drunk and was driven home by TC. Malcolm threw up in his car...

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[kaimendhibs]

Was Deputy Head at Porty. Very first assembly at the High School he gave me a gentle punch in the stomach for acting up as 400 first years waited outside the school to be told how to get in. I'm not sure he ever spoke to me in my time there.
First game I ever attended was Bo'ness vs East Stirling in a pre season friendly. TC was in the ES team.
Xmas dance my mate Malcolm git very drunk and was driven home by TC. Malcolm threw up in his car...

Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkAh, thats it. Deputy. I was at porty, Jim Telfer was my chemistry teacher.
I mind TC taking a pen against Paddy Main im sure in goals at PE.
Paddy saved it and TC demanded a retake [emoji28]

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[Billy Whizz]

Was he not a teacher at Craigmount too?

[brog]

There were some posts a while back about the Holy X team that featured Jimmy O, Pat Stanton, Davie Hogg etc. Terry was in or around that team also. IIRC he went to Dundee originally.

[O'Rourke3]

Ah, thats it. Deputy. I was at porty, Jim Telfer was my chemistry teacher.
I mind TC taking a pen against Paddy Main im sure in goals at PE.
Paddy saved it and TC demanded a retake [emoji28]

Sent from my SM-G973F using TapatalkJim Telfer... I remember two of us jumping on the lift without a janny trying to get to the 8th floor. Jim got on at the first and put the fear of God into us about repeating the offense. We both knew he could have given us the belt so the 7 flight walk was a doddle...

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[SiinDubai]

He was my headmaster at Musselburgh grammar late eighties/ early nineties

[MWHIBBIES]

Was he not a teacher at Craigmount too?

Done a bit of singing too.

[kaimendhibs]

Jim Telfer... I remember two of us jumping on the lift without a janny trying to get to the 8th floor. Jim got on at the first and put the fear of God into us about repeating the offense. We both knew he could have given us the belt so the 7 flight walk was a doddle...

Sent from my SM-G965F using TapatalkHe was a scary but nice guy ha

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[telford hibbee]

His book is worth the head teacher of football is worth a read.

[Brightside]

My memory is hazy, cant mind if he was my head or deputy head.

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I’m sure he was head at some point at Musselburgh. There was a woman and I’m sure he took her place.

[BSEJVT]

Jim Telfer... I remember two of us jumping on the lift without a janny trying to get to the 8th floor. Jim got on at the first and put the fear of God into us about repeating the offense. We both knew he could have given us the belt so the 7 flight walk was a doddle...

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After failing miserably all my higher prelims in 5th year at Porty he called me and my folks into see him.

His opening gambit in front of my mum and dad was are you going to be an arse all your life son?

It went downhill from there!

To be fair to him he was right at the time, after O grades I had been more interested in drinking and arsing around, thanks to him and that approach I got all my highers

I had no difficulty believing he could motivate Scotland & the lions after the shellacking I got!

[Dalianwanda]

I’m sure he was head at some point at Musselburgh. There was a woman and I’m sure he took her place.

Yeah, Mrs MacKintosh....Think he took over when we were in 4th Year...

I do remember (I think we were in 5th year) playing pupils v teachers at fitba..He took no prisoners in defence, very competitive..I still mind him going absolutely radge at me for a deliberate late tackle I did on their goalie (Mr Brown - PE)

[Iggy Pope]

i met Terry Christie through a family friend at a party way back. Not sure how he was in the frame three times at Hibs but I know from speaking to him he is a good Hibby with a real love for our idols like the rest of us. He could probably have spoken about Darren Jackson all night if I hadn't asked him about Pat Stanton! Lovely fellah.

[Brightside]

Yeah, Mrs MacKintosh....Think he took over when we were in 4th Year...

I do remember (I think we were in 5th year) playing pupils v teachers at fitba..He took no prisoners in defence, very competitive..I still mind him going absolutely radge at me for a deliberate late tackle I did on their goalie (Mr Brown - PE)
That’s spot on.

[Iggy Pope]

Not sure Hibs fans would have accepted him as manager. No offence to the geezer, but I certainly wouldn't have at the time.

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Not certain of the dates but I reckon we might have had the likes of Jocky Scott, Donald Park and Jim Duffy being responsible for picking the team in the acceptable role during some of that time.
Worked out well.

[EI255]

Not certain of the dates but I reckon we might have had the likes of Jocky Scott, Donald Park and Jim Duffy being responsible for picking the team in the acceptable role during some of that time.
Worked out well.I suppose we wouldn't have needed a helicopter to fly the teacher in

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[Iggy Pope]

I suppose we wouldn't have needed a helicopter to fly the teacher in

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He'd have flown it himself.

[G B Young]

Not sure Hibs fans would have accepted him as manager. No offence to the geezer, but I certainly wouldn't have at the time.

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He could hardly have made us much worse during that era if we're talking the early to mid-80s. I remember him bringing Meadowbank to ER for a League Cup tie circa 83/84 and beating us with relative comfort. Humiliating stuff. We got knocked out the Scottish Cup by East Fife around the same time, though we at least managed to take them to a replay!

Christie did an extraordinary job at Meadowbank. IIRC he had them close to promotion to the top flight long before they became Livingston. Also recall him managing Stenhousemuir to a cup win over Aberdeen. IMHO he'd have been a decent appointment for Hibs. I haven't listened to the interview but I'm guessing he didn't want a full-time job in football management if he turned us down three times?

[Iggy Pope]

He could hardly have made us much worse during that era if we're talking the early to mid-80s. I remember him bringing Meadowbank to ER for a League Cup tie circa 83/84 and beating us with relative comfort. Humiliating stuff. We got knocked out the Scottish Cup by East Fife around the same time, though we at least managed to take them to a replay!

Christie did an extraordinary job at Meadowbank. IIRC he had them close to promotion to the top flight long before they became Livingston. Also recall him managing Stenhousemuir to a cup win over Aberdeen. IMHO he'd have been a decent appointment for Hibs. I haven't listened to the interview but I'm guessing he didn't want a full-time job in football management if he turned us down three times?

I'd be surprised if it was early 80s and if he had been the man in straight after Turnbull, Auld or even Blackley then it would probably have been met with uproar. Think it's maybe romance that suggests he turned us down three different times.

Hibs knocked Stenny out after that Aberdeen game and our manager then was pretty much in with the bricks.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Its a bit of a licence to say Terry Christie turned Hibs down 3 times but he was very much in running and down to the last two at least twice.

The first time would have been after Blackley was sacked but Hibs went for Alex Miller instead and the second time would have been when Miller left 10 years later and Hibs went for Jim Duffy instead.

The person who would have stopped him getting the job would have been Dougie Crombe, the chairman, not for any personal reason but he just thought the others were better candidates.

Hindsight is a great thing but even Tony Christie couldn't have done any worse than Jim Duffy.

[worcesterhibby]

He was my Deputy Head at Trinity Academy at one point.

[SideBurns]

Pretty sure my dad said he was at Holy Cross at the same time as Christie (as a pupil, that is); any HC FPs now in their mid 70s on here remember him from then?

[EI255]

There were ACTUALLY a few memorable Duff Jimmy games.

Christie made the right choice. He wouldn't have cut it in the top flight and might have knackered his career as a council school headmaster.

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[G B Young]

Its a bit of a licence to say Terry Christie turned Hibs down 3 times but he was very much in running and down to the last two at least twice.

The first time would have been after Blackley was sacked but Hibs went for Alex Miller instead and the second time would have been when Miller left 10 years later and Hibs went for Jim Duffy instead.

The person who would have stopped him getting the job would have been Dougie Crombe, the chairman, not for any personal reason but he just thought the others were better candidates.

Hindsight is a great thing but even Tony Christie couldn't have done any worse than Jim Duffy.

Think Kenny Waugh would still have been chairman when Blackley was sacked but I might be wrong.

I'd forgotten Christie's Meadowbank were only prevented from playing in the top flight by league reconstruction. Amazing that they got to that level considering what a tiny club they were, often playing to a couple of hundred fans. They were probably even smaller than Gretna and didn't have Brooks Mileson's millions behind them.

[SideBurns]

Think Kenny Waugh would still have been chairman when Blackley was sacked but I might be wrong.

I'd forgotten Christie's Meadowbank were only prevented from playing in the top flight by league reconstruction. Amazing that they got to that level considering what a tiny club they were, often playing to a couple of hundred fans. They were probably even smaller than Gretna and didn't have Brooks Mileson's millions behind them.

You're right, it was Waugh who sacked Blackley. The season Meadowbank knocked us out of the LC they got to the semis, losing over 2 legs to the Huns. Think I'm right in saying they lost something like 4-0 at Ibrox, but drew 2-2 in the return game at Tynie (when, admittedly, the tie was over).

[brog]

Pretty sure my dad said he was at Holy Cross at the same time as Christie (as a pupil, that is); any HC FPs now in their mid 70s on here remember him then?

Yes, I posted earlier that Terry was in (or around) that Holy Cross team that contained Pat Stanton, Jimmy O etc. Think Terry's a year or 2 older, possibly played in same team as George Brough/Tony McGlynn. If your user name contains your surname then I probably knew your dad!

[Killiehibbie]

Yes, I posted earlier that Terry was in (or around) that Holy Cross team that contained Pat Stanton, Jimmy O etc. Think Terry's a year or 2 older, possibly played in same team as George Brough/Tony McGlynn. If your user name contains your surname then I probably knew your dad!

He must be must be getting on for 80.
I first remember him in his green Escort.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Its a bit of a licence to say Terry Christie turned Hibs down 3 times but he was very much in running and down to the last two at least twice.

The first time would have been after Blackley was sacked but Hibs went for Alex Miller instead and the second time would have been when Miller left 10 years later and Hibs went for Jim Duffy instead.

The person who would have stopped him getting the job would have been Dougie Crombe, the chairman, not for any personal reason but he just thought the others were better candidates.

Hindsight is a great thing but even Tony Christie couldn't have done any worse than Jim Duffy.

He does give quite a few details at the end of the podcast - certainly says that Douglas crombe vetoed it the third time - but in each case there are quite specific reminiscences of verbal offers etc which then got countermanded. Anyway, neither here nor there really.

[Kato]

Yes, I posted earlier that Terry was in (or around) that Holy Cross team that contained Pat Stanton, Jimmy O etc. Think Terry's a year or 2 older, possibly played in same team as George Brough/Tony McGlynn. If your user name contains your surname then I probably knew your dad!

Tony McGlynn was another who went on to be a teacher. Our House Master at Castlebrae. He was also Hibs daft.

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[weecounty hibby]

Love stories like his about how heads of old would treat sporting kids. My first rector at Alloa Academy was a big rugby man and I was up for the belt from him in the first week, totally innocent obviously! Anyway he asks me if i played rugby and i said no, but I play football. He said well that's a start, do you want to play rugby? When I said yes he let me off with the belt on the proviso that I attended rugby training after school. Back then the school didn't play football, it was Rugby or hockey so I couldn't have played football anyway. Led to a life long love of rugby as well as football. He sounds like a great head teacher. Changed days now sadly

[brog]

He must be must be getting on for 80.
I first remember him in his green Escort.

Wikipedia shows his birthday as 1942/43 so he's somewhere between 77 & 79!! King Pat & Tony McGlynn are both 76.

[SideBurns]

Yes, I posted earlier that Terry was in (or around) that Holy Cross team that contained Pat Stanton, Jimmy O etc. Think Terry's a year or 2 older, possibly played in same team as George Brough/Tony McGlynn. If your user name contains your surname then I probably knew your dad!

Sorry Brog, I didn't notice your earlier email. My dad was Hughie Burns; played in the same team as Jimmy at Holy Cross, but think Pat was maybe a year or two older? Mind him saying they had some excellent players though, a few who turned professional.

[brog]

Tony McGlynn was another who went on to be a teacher. Our House Master at Castlebrae. He was also Hibs daft.

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I've posted before but Tony had just about the strangest career of any Hibs player. Scored on his debut as a 17 year old. Didn't play again for well over 2 years then scored again. Played the following week & that was it. 3 games, 2 goals, 2 wins & 1 draw over 3 years. Remarkable.

[brog]

Sorry Brog, I didn't notice your earlier email. My dad was Hughie Burns; played in the same team as Jimmy at Holy Cross, but think Pat was maybe a year or two older? Mind him saying they had some excellent players though, a few who turned professional.

I knew your dad, & his brother well. All the best!

[brog]

Love stories like his about how heads of old would treat sporting kids. My first rector at Alloa Academy was a big rugby man and I was up for the belt from him in the first week, totally innocent obviously! Anyway he asks me if i played rugby and i said no, but I play football. He said well that's a start, do you want to play rugby? When I said yes he let me off with the belt on the proviso that I attended rugby training after school. Back then the school didn't play football, it was Rugby or hockey so I couldn't have played football anyway. Led to a life long love of rugby as well as football. He sounds like a great head teacher. Changed days now sadly

Tom O'Malley, ex Chairman, did exact same thing with me at Holy X. Only difference was we could play footy for 1st 3 years then it was rugby or nothing. I chose rugby.

[SideBurns]

I knew your dad, & his brother well. All the best!

Thanks Brog, same tae yersel! Always happy to pick up on posters who knew the brothers 😁

[Killiehibbie]

Wikipedia shows his birthday as 1942/43 so he's somewhere between 77 & 79!! King Pat & Tony McGlynn are both 76.

I know he hadn't long hung up his boots when managing Newton Grange in 1978 and Kevan told me he was 36. They beat Livingstone 2-1 that day

[lord bunberry]

His brother Peter was some character. He had the the self titled nickname of Square go Christie. He was a regular down in the Central and other pubs around there.

[Kato]

I've posted before but Tony had just about the strangest career of any Hibs player. Scored on his debut as a 17 year old. Didn't play again for well over 2 years then scored again. Played the following week & that was it. 3 games, 2 goals, 2 wins & 1 draw over 3 years. Remarkable.

Thanks, Brog. Never knew the details of his career. Tony was a lovely bloke and a great teacher, the best I had at Castlebrae - not much competition there though. :wink:

[superfurryhibby]

Great interview. He says he was verbally offered the job by Kenny Waugh and twice by STF. He never turned it down, the verbal offers never turned into anything concrete.

Christie comes across really well. A Hibs fan and a real football man. Hats off to the interviewer, he was very good too.

[brog]

His brother Peter was some character. He had the the self titled nickname of Square go Christie. He was a regular down in the Central and other pubs around there.

I saw in the blurb for Terry's book that he calls Peter 'a professional shoplifter'. I would say more a conman, Peter always felt he had to get one over on everyone. He was always leaving restaurants without paying the bill. After a shaky start, I quickly learned never to accompany him for a meal!

[EI255]

I once saw Terry Christie buying beans in Safeway.

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[lord bunberry]

I saw in the blurb for Terry's book that he calls Peter 'a professional shoplifter'. I would say more a conman, Peter always felt he had to get one over on everyone. He was always leaving restaurants without paying the bill. After a shaky start, I quickly learned never to accompany him for a meal!
He definitely indulged in a bit of shoplifting. He sold my mate a couple of videos for £8, my mate gave him a tenner and asked for the change he threw him a couple of pairs of sports socks. :greengrin
He was quite funny in small doses, but he could be a bit of a pain at times.

[brog]

He definitely indulged in a bit of shoplifting. He sold my mate a couple of videos for £8, my mate gave him a tenner and asked for the change he threw him a couple of pairs of sports socks. :greengrin
He was quite funny in small doses, but he could be a bit of a pain at times.


Oh yes, I knew he shoplifted, along with everything else, but I just think he got his kicks from getting one over on everyone, your story is a perfect example. He was exactly as you say but he was also an intelligent guy.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

I saw in the blurb for Terry's book that he calls Peter 'a professional shoplifter'. I would say more a conman, Peter always felt he had to get one over on everyone. He was always leaving restaurants without paying the bill. After a shaky start, I quickly learned never to accompany him for a meal!

Just had a look at that on the amazon site and you can do a preview on there. some nice moments when he's talking about his mum transferring her affections from GAA to Hibs because she was in Edinburgh. Think he should have got it proofread though - for a Head Teacher his apostrophes are shocking.

[monarch]

Great interview. He says he was verbally offered the job by Kenny Waugh and twice by STF. He never turned it down, the verbal offers never turned into anything concrete.

Christie comes across really well. A Hibs fan and a real football man. Hats off to the interviewer, he was very good too.

The story at the time was that Kenny Waugh definitely wanted Terry, along with Micky Lawson (Jambo 😫) as his assistant, but decided to put to the vote to the rest of the directors. Apparently overall majority were not in favour of appointing Terry.

[superfurryhibby]

The story at the time was that Kenny Waugh definitely wanted Terry, along with Micky Lawson (Jambo 😫) as his assistant, but decided to put to the vote to the rest of the directors. Apparently overall majority were not in favour of appointing Terry.

Based on his record elsewhere he would have been an interesting appointment. He took Meadowbank to a promotion finish, robbed of top flight football by league reconstruction and he got them into a League Cup semi final. He also won a Challenge Cup with Stenny, beating a Dundee Utd side with some big name players.

Good eye for a player and operated on the ultimate shoestring budget throughout his managerial career . Shame he not got the chance. FWIW, Christie feels that there was an element of distrust from Chairmen etc, because of his teaching career. He was viewed as a bit of a square peg in a round hole.

[inglisavhibs]

There were ACTUALLY a few memorable Duff Jimmy games.

Christie made the right choice. He wouldn't have cut it in the top flight and might have knackered his career as a council school headmaster.

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Probably wrong on both accounts. Christie didn’t make the choice, he made it pretty clear on the podcast that he would have packed in teaching for the Hibs job. Why you think he wouldn’t have cut it in the top flight I have no idea. I think if you were able to speak to the players who played under him they would tell you otherwise.

[EI255]

Probably wrong on both accounts. Christie didn’t make the choice, he made it pretty clear on the podcast that he would have packed in teaching for the Hibs job. Why you think he wouldn’t have cut it in the top flight I have no idea. I think if you were able to speak to the players who played under him they would tell you otherwise.I'm definitely not wrong on one. Duffy DID have a few memorable wins. Fact.

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[inglisavhibs]

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I'm definitely not wrong on one. Duffy DID have a few memorable wins. Fact.

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I meant both the points regarding Terry Christie.

[O'Rourke3]

Great listen.

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[Iggy Pope]

Great interview. He says he was verbally offered the job by Kenny Waugh and twice by STF. He never turned it down, the verbal offers never turned into anything concrete.

Christie comes across really well. A Hibs fan and a real football man. Hats off to the interviewer, he was very good too.

Agreed. This is an interesting thread too, for the most part.

[AlbertK86]

He was my Deputy Head at Trinity Academy at one point.

Late 70s and early 80s.


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[Nailsea Hibby]

He was my Deputy Head at Trinity Academy at one point.

Mines too :agree: