NHC... Rangers Statement

[04Sauzee]

Rangers are aware of an alleged incident which is subject to an internal investigation. We will make no further comment. https://t.co/XVRhHWzWpJ

https://twitter.com/RangersFC/status/1361046106507993090?s=19

[bingo70]

Patterson and Bassey caught at a house party and fined by the police apparently.

[Col2]

I wonder if this will be the red card from Sturgeon after the Celtic Dubai fiasco.

[Irish_Steve]

I wonder if this will be the red card from Sturgeon after the Celtic Dubai fiasco.

League called Null and Void lol

[Pretty Boy]

League called Null and Void lol

Could you imagine😂

[Col2]

League called Null and Void lol

It’s almost exactly the same number of games (on less) and even bigger gap at the top compared to last season. Null and void for premier league would be unlikely.

However the championship averaged only 14 out of 27 games (an already reduced season) so that would be null and void I think.Imagine the seethe🤣🤣🤣

[brog]

I wonder if this will be the red card from Sturgeon after the Celtic Dubai fiasco.

Why should it be? Have they closed down the business activity of everyone caught breaking the rules?

[PatHead]

Why should it be? Have they closed down the business activity of everyone caught breaking the rules?

Because it's Sevco.

[hibee-boys]

The stupidity, or simple lack is respect, of these footballers is astounding.

[Lendo]

Heard from a Rangers pal that 3 or 4 youth players also involved. Gerrard will be doing his nut in at all of this. Love it.

[bingo70]

The stupidity, or simple lack is respect, of these footballers is astounding.

As much as I agree I’m passed the stage of judging anyone for it now.

I’m a boring old ******* now and rarely went out anyway and it’s driving me mad, I can’t imagine what it’s like just now for those in their early 20’s, even high profile footballers.

I’m no hun sympathiser and I’d love it if they get the book thrown at them, on a human level, I feel sorry for all young people now though.

[Hibernia&Alba]

The stupidity, or simple lack is respect, of these footballers is astounding.

Selfishness, not caring.

[PatHead]

As much as I agree I’m passed the stage of judging anyone for it now.

I’m a boring old ******* now and rarely went out anyway and it’s driving me mad, I can’t imagine what it’s like just now for those in their early 20’s, even high profile footballers.

I’m no hun sympathiser and I’d love it if they get the book thrown at them, on a human level, I feel sorry for all young people now though.

I don't. I have never had one of my grandchildren into my house since he was born. Can't go to visit my mum. Can't socialise. We all have to make sacrifices and offering excuses doesn't help.

Until this has stopped spreading we can't live a normal life. The more people that break the rules, the longer lockdown will continue.

[I'm Spartacus]

What will annoy me about this is the tims shouting for N&V! Throwing ***** at each other.

[hibee-boys]

As much as I agree I’m passed the stage of judging anyone for it now.

I’m a boring old ******* now and rarely went out anyway and it’s driving me mad, I can’t imagine what it’s like just now for those in their early 20’s, even high profile footballers.

I’m no hun sympathiser and I’d love it if they get the book thrown at them, on a human level, I feel sorry for all young people now though.

Feel sorry for youngsters who are missing out on their education, stuck indoors tied to their tablets/phones as a way of communicating with friends. Feel sorry for youngsters who are struggling to find employment following leaving school or higher education. I don’t have a single ounce of sympathy for these 2, who have been granted dispensation to continue training and playing the sport they love on the premise that they abide by very simple rules. There has been numerous footballers caught flouting the rules, these lads obviously couldn’t care less, I hope they are sacked in the morning.

[Bishop Hibee]

It's especially crap for young folk just now but when your employed in such a high profile profession then you've got to screw the nut. I suspect those involved will be sacked by the huns but I can't see much else happening apart from the media having a field day.

[bingo70]

It's especially crap for young folk just now but when your employed in such a high profile profession then you've got to screw the nut. I suspect those involved will be sacked by the huns but I can't see much else happening apart from the media having a field day.

They’ll only get sacked if they’re crap.

[gbhibby]

Some Rangers fans are saying those involved should be sacked. How many times do footballers need to be telt.

[HoboHarry]

Some Rangers fans are saying those involved should be sacked. How many times do footballers need to be telt.
They categorically would not be saying that if they were top performers for the team. Tavernier and McGregor for example - think they would be shouting for sackings if it had been that pair?

[gbhibby]

They categorically would not be saying that if they were top performers for the team. Tavernier and McGregor for example - think they would be shouting for sackings if it had been that pair?
We shall have to wait and see. I am sure the Whataboutery is about to start.

[Baader]

They’ll only get sacked if they’re crap.

That's the truth.

[Stantons Angel]

Why should it be? Have they closed down the business activity of everyone caught breaking the rules?


Maybe not but she did state after the Celtic fiasco that she was considering extending the closure of the grounds to supporters as a punishment for the law once again being ignored!

She was very angry and will be doing her nut if this rumour is true. Then we will have to wait and see out fate when we have done anything to deserve that.

Cruel i know but some of them just dont seem to understand just what is at stake here!

[Steve20]

They categorically would not be saying that if they were top performers for the team. Tavernier and McGregor for example - think they would be shouting for sackings if it had been that pair?

Yet if they didn’t call for them to be sacked, you’d have a go at them for not wanting them sacked.

Notice Celtic fans wanting null and void. I’m sure they must be just on the wind up though, since they were awarded the league last season.

The players involved should be sacked, just like any player from any club deliberately breaking Covid rules.

[HoboHarry]

Yet if they didn’t call for them to be sacked, you’d have a go at them for not wanting them sacked.

Notice Celtic fans wanting null and void. I’m sure they must be just on the wind up though, since they were awarded the league last season.

The players involved should be sacked, just like any player from any club deliberately breaking Covid rules.
No I wouldn't and you nothing about what I think of the situation.

[HoboHarry]

As much as I agree I’m passed the stage of judging anyone for it now.

I’m a boring old ******* now and rarely went out anyway and it’s driving me mad, I can’t imagine what it’s like just now for those in their early 20’s, even high profile footballers.

I’m no hun sympathiser and I’d love it if they get the book thrown at them, on a human level, I feel sorry for all young people now though.

I'm with you on all of that Bingo.

[MWHIBBIES]

The stupidity, or simple lack is respect, of these footballers is astounding.

I'd imagine a much higher % of footballers are staying within the rules than most professions.

[Dalianwanda]

I'd imagine a much higher % of footballers are staying within the rules than most professions.

The majority of footballers are doing what they should be. With so many working from home and those that aren’t eg schools (eventually), hospitals, supermarkets under such strict working protocol i doubt they are staying within rules more or less.

As is being shown it’s not the profession or protocol but the stupidity, arrogance, selfishness or whatever of the individual.

[DH1875]

How stupid can you get, especially after what happened with Jones and the other guy. No excuses.

[Seveno]

Professional footballers have been allowed special dispensations and should therefore expect special punishments. A custodial sentence might well be appropriate and serve as a real warning to others.

I cannot see why the club or wider football should be made to suffer due to the actions of a very small number of inconsiderate idiots. In any case, I doubt that Sturgeon would want to risk the backlash with the Scottish Parliamentary election so close.

[Stanton Spence]

Professional footballers have been allowed special dispensations and should therefore expect special punishments. A custodial sentence might well be appropriate and serve as a real warning to others.

I cannot see why the club or wider football should be made to suffer due to the actions of a very small number of inconsiderate idiots. In any case, I doubt that Sturgeon would want to risk the backlash with the Scottish Parliamentary election so close.A custiodal sentence is way over the top and I can only assume that you haven't been in prison? They are young laddies who have been stupid and made a huge error but nothing that should see them locked up with all sorts of nut jobs. You are also punishing their whole families who would also suffer seeing there kids boyfriends etc locked up. How long do you think you they should get? [emoji23]

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[One Day In Time]

Heard from a Rangers pal that 3 or 4 youth players also involved. Gerrard will be doing his nut in at all of this. Love it.

Any decent players being freed I wonder?

You'd have to wonder about the intelligence of these guys. SG will be doing his nut as you say. Imagine risking your teams prospects and your own career for a few beers?

[Phil MaGlass]

A custiodal sentence is way over the top and I can only assume that you haven't been in prison? They are young laddies who have been stupid and made a huge error but nothing that should see them locked up with all sorts of nut jobs. You are also punishing their whole families who would also suffer seeing there kids boyfriends etc locked up. How long do you think you they should get? [emoji23]

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Although I dont agree 100% with a custodial sentence , I am getting absolutely f,n fed up hearing error of judgement as an excuse. It´s not a bloody error of judgement, they have known the rules for almost a year, we have all known the rules (or tried to) it is about time those ********s that blatantly break the rules are hammered. Who knows maybe a custodial sentence of a couple of days and a 1000 quid fine for partying may be a deterrent.

[Stanton Spence]

Although I dont agree 100% with a custodial sentence , I am getting absolutely f,n fed up hearing error of judgement as an excuse. It´s not a bloody error of judgement, they have known the rules for almost a year, we have all known the rules (or tried to) it is about time those ********s that blatantly break the rules are hammered. Who knows maybe a custodial sentence of a couple of days and a 1000 quid fine for partying may be a deterrent.I agree and it is getting beyond a joke bud but prison isn't the answer for young laddies like them who have probably have no previous convictions etc. They could be told to do community service or something along these lines. Prison is not a nice place and neither it should be but the jails are bursting at the seems as it is and it would cost a few quid to lock them up for a couple of days and wouldn't achieve much more than media interest

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[Phil MaGlass]

I agree and it is getting beyond a joke bud but prison isn't the answer for young laddies like them who have probably have no previous convictions etc. They could be told to do community service or something along these lines. Prison is not a nice place and neither it should be but the jails are bursting at the seems as it is and it would cost a few quid to lock them up for a couple of days and wouldn't achieve much more than media interest

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community service in a hospital?

[Onion]

I agree and it is getting beyond a joke bud but prison isn't the answer for young laddies like them who have probably have no previous convictions etc. They could be told to do community service or something along these lines. Prison is not a nice place and neither it should be but the jails are bursting at the seems as it is and it would cost a few quid to lock them up for a couple of days and wouldn't achieve much more than media interest

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Agree, prison's not there answer.

2 weeks in a quarantine hotel and a suspended 25 point deduction from The Rangers is the way to go :aok:

[Stanton Spence]

community service in a hospital?There's an option bud or running errands etc for people who still have to self isolate. Giving them fines even massive amounts of money isn't an issue or deterrent because no doubt they will still be on a very good wage and jail for me is not the answer either but community service would make them think about what they have done along with the sack

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[Hibs4185]

A few weeks ago I would’ve been over the moon with null and void to stop rangers winning the title but with us being in pole position for third and the potential European benefits, null and void would be a disaster for us. Potentially cost £3/4 million in revenue.

[Paul1642]

A few weeks ago I would’ve been over the moon with null and void to stop rangers winning the title but with us being in pole position for third and the potential European benefits, null and void would be a disaster for us. Potentially cost £3/4 million in revenue.

Null and void will never happen. Scotland has spots in next seasons European competitions no matter what happens and if not on current league positions how else would they be allocated?

We are though the worst part of this winters pandemic and the league will be finished IMO.

Hammer the individual clubs and players with large fines. (Not that they can’t afford it easily).

[southern hibby]

Genuine question.......


If the league was deemed null and void ( not that I think it would be )who would get the European places????

My thought process is The rangers wouldn’t get the league title so what would happen to European places??? Would we use last years placing cause if we used this years placing that means you’d have to give the Title to the Huns?

Id hate to think we’ve actually got a chance of group stage football and it would be taken away
from us........

I’m sure someone will know, however as we all do know the SFA ain’t the sharpest tool in the box and this should ( in my mind t least ) have been discussed before the start of
the season.

GGTTH

[hibsbollah]

This season will now always have an asterisk* next to it.

Absolutely superb. The self styled ‘most successful club in the world’ still yet to win a major trophy:not worth

[Keith_M]

Patterson and Bassey caught at a house party and fined by the police apparently.


Isn't this the second time this season that some Rangers players have been caught at a house party?

[04Sauzee]

Isn't this the second time this season that some Rangers players have been caught at a house party?

Edmunson and Jones were caught and got a 7 match suspension? Both were shipped out on loan in January

[Jim44]

Patterson and Bassey caught at a house party and fined by the police apparently.

Elite sportsmen? ...... More like elite plonkers.

[Keith_M]

Edmunson and Jones were caught and got a 7 match suspension? Both were shipped out on loan in January


Cheers.

:aok:



I actually think that if The Rangers are seen to be handling this correctly in way of player punishments (same as the last time), then nothing much will come from it.

There's no evidence that the club have done anything wrong, e.g. breaking any kind of Covid protocols.

[Onion]

Isn't this the second time this season that some Rangers players have been caught at a house party?

Yes, 2 player fined and suspended for breaches. SFA should have added a suspended points deduction on The Rangers at the same time. That would have fixed the problem for Sevco, at least. Fining players a few hundred quid is no deterrent whatsoever - as we are seeing.

[worcesterhibby]

community service in a hospital?

How about getting them to lie on the roof of the Easter Road stands naked, with chips superglued to their nether regions....this would act as a deterrent to others thinking of breaking the rules and would go some way to solving the seagull problem at ER when we all get back into stadiums !!

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm not really seeing the problem here, those caught should be fined in line with what i'd be fined had i broken the rules.

Elite sport is being played to help with the moral of the country, footballers are no different to the rest of us, and there will be the odd player who is out of line.

Fine them as the law states, and ban them like others have been by the football authorities.

Job done.

[Keith_M]

Yes, 2 player fined and suspended for breaches. SFA should have added a suspended points deduction on The Rangers at the same time. That would have fixed the problem for Sevco, at least. Fining players a few hundred quid is no deterrent whatsoever - as we are seeing.


I think a points deduction would be a bit unfair on The Rangers...



...but I'd be happy enough if that was the outcome.

:greengrin

[The Pointer]

There are a few over-reactions on here. Footballers aren't generally known for being the sharpest knives in the drawer but they all know what the possible sanctions will be if caught. Their club should treat them fairly harshly to set, in this case another, example but this should amount to fines and suspensions. The SPFL will also wade in with some form of punishment as a precedent has already been set.

My daughter and her cousins and friends are all having a hard time of it, but rules are rules and this generation are for the first time in their lives realising that 'no' means 'no'. Footballers are at least able to go out and 'socialise' at their work.

[bingo70]

I'm not really seeing the problem here, those caught should be fined in line with what i'd be fined had i broken the rules.

Elite sport is being played to help with the moral of the country, footballers are no different to the rest of us, and there will be the odd player who is out of line.

Fine them as the law states, and ban them like others have been by the football authorities.

Job done.

Agreed.

Null and voiding the championship seems sensible as well though. Really got to send a message out here.

[ScottB]

Ultimately if the only consequence is being fined, then it just makes something illegal for poor people.

[Seveno]

How about getting them to lie on the roof of the Easter Road stands naked, with chips superglued to their nether regions....this would act as a deterrent to others thinking of breaking the rules and would go some way to solving the seagull problem at ER when we all get back into stadiums !!

That’s the sort of creative thinking we need.

[Carheenlea]

First Minister when asked about alleged breaches of Covid rules by Rangers players. “I feel it’s taking me all my power not to stand here and use expletives when I get asked about football.”

[silverhibee]

A custiodal sentence is way over the top and I can only assume that you haven't been in prison? They are young laddies who have been stupid and made a huge error but nothing that should see them locked up with all sorts of nut jobs. You are also punishing their whole families who would also suffer seeing there kids boyfriends etc locked up. How long do you think you they should get? [emoji23]

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10 years should do.

[Northernhibee]

Ultimately if the only consequence is being fined, then it just makes something illegal for poor people.

It’s also the same with prison sentences. The better the lawyer you have, the better result you’re getting.

[silverhibee]

Although I dont agree 100% with a custodial sentence , I am getting absolutely f,n fed up hearing error of judgement as an excuse. It´s not a bloody error of judgement, they have known the rules for almost a year, we have all known the rules (or tried to) it is about time those ********s that blatantly break the rules are hammered. Who knows maybe a custodial sentence of a couple of days and a 1000 quid fine for partying may be a deterrent.

Even worse will be the apology they make, f***ing sick of people saying sorry when they get caught breaking the rules, just don't break them in the first place.

[fred771]

As much as I agree I’m passed the stage of judging anyone for it now.

I’m a boring old ******* now and rarely went out anyway and it’s driving me mad, I can’t imagine what it’s like just now for those in their early 20’s, even high profile footballers.

I’m no hun sympathiser and I’d love it if they get the book thrown at them, on a human level, I feel sorry for all young people now though.Agreed its a tough time for the young dudes & dudettes - even if their huns [emoji38]

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[04Sauzee]

Just spoken to a rangers fan i know, his take on it is that there were 4 rangers players involved and it was 4 of the players and their gf's in a house to watch the Boxing and they ordered takeaway and it was the delivery driver who has 'grassed' them up.

Even although the police have mentioned 10 people the above is still supposedly factual and correct 😁

In the meantime im not going round to friends houses for food and sporting events

[CropleyWasGod]

First Minister when asked about alleged breaches of Covid rules by Rangers players. “I feel it’s taking me all my power not to stand here and use expletives when I get asked about football.”

If she called them out as durty Orange *******s, I'd have no problem. :greengrin

[PatHead]

A custiodal sentence is way over the top and I can only assume that you haven't been in prison? They are young laddies who have been stupid and made a huge error but nothing that should see them locked up with all sorts of nut jobs. You are also punishing their whole families who would also suffer seeing there kids boyfriends etc locked up. How long do you think you they should get? [emoji23]

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Sevco players, throw away the key. Anyone else, suspended sentence.😁

[basehibby]

community service in a hospital?

Jail is a nonsense idea - for the crime of going round someone's house? Absolutely bang out of order - like asking for fascism.

Given the circumstances though, community service in a hospital would be reasonable. Constructive and actually helping the situation directly - assuming suitable work could be found.

[brog]

I'm not really seeing the problem here, those caught should be fined in line with what i'd be fined had i broken the rules.

Elite sport is being played to help with the moral of the country, footballers are no different to the rest of us, and there will be the odd player who is out of line.

Fine them as the law states, and ban them like others have been by the football authorities.

Job done.

Exactly right! hundreds, probably thousands have been caught breaking the rules in this pandemic. We don't close down building sites, tv studios or supermarkets because an employee has been irresponsible. Football should be no different.

[rodhibs55]

Jail is a nonsense idea - for the crime of going round someone's house? Absolutely bang out of order - like asking for fascism.

Given the circumstances though, community service in a hospital would be reasonable. Constructive and actually helping the situation directly - assuming suitable work could be found.

This is sensible, whatever the sentence is it has to mean something unlike the £200 fine handed out to the Newcastle player who broke the rules by getting a haircut. A fairly high price for a haircut for a normal person but for somebody that is on cica £30K a week, the sentence means nothing at all.

[hibsbollah]

This thread raises questions of morality; whether these players deserve the jail etc, how sick we are of this sort of behaviour.

Say for example, it was Lewis Stevenson that had done these things. Would you grass him up to the authorities if you were the delivery driver taking pizzas to his house where there were other players and there girlfriends present? I wouldn’t. But I’d grass up Alan Mcgregor. Or any hun for that matter. And think it was justified and extremely funny.

I suppose that makes me a hypocrite :whistle:

[G B Young]

I'm not really seeing the problem here, those caught should be fined in line with what i'd be fined had i broken the rules.

Elite sport is being played to help with the moral of the country, footballers are no different to the rest of us, and there will be the odd player who is out of line.

Fine them as the law states, and ban them like others have been by the football authorities.

Job done.

I'd say elite sports pros ARE different to the rest of us. They are allowed to operate in an exclusive bubble in which they are regularly tested to enable them to continue with their profession pretty much as normal (just without the crowds). The rest of us are mostly stuck at home, often trying to fit home schooling around work - or worse, fretting about having been made unemployed during this pandemic. By that measure I think footballers should be held to higher standards and Sturgeon is right to put the boot into them.

You just need to look at the animosity towards the top tennis players (not the also-rans) being flown in privately for the Australian Open and 'isolating' in luxury training facilities (while many Australians are still banned from entering the country) to see how out of touch sports professionals can quickly become.

[Stanton Spence]

Sevco players, throw away the key. Anyone else, suspended sentence.[emoji16]Well you have a point [emoji23]

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[blackpoolhibs]

I'd say elite sports pros ARE different to the rest of us. They are allowed to operate in an exclusive bubble in which they are regularly tested to enable them to continue with their profession pretty much as normal (just without the crowds). The rest of us are mostly stuck at home, often trying to fit home schooling around work - or worse, fretting about having been made unemployed during this pandemic. By that measure I think footballers should be held to higher standards and Sturgeon is right to put the boot into them.

You just need to look at the animosity towards the top tennis players (not the also-rans) being flown in privately for the Australian Open and 'isolating' in luxury training facilities (while many Australians are still banned from entering the country) to see how out of touch sports professionals can quickly become.

You cant have different laws for different people.

[Argylehibby]

You cant have different laws for different people.

Other than on a football pitch it seems...

[blackpoolhibs]

Other than on a football pitch it seems...


:greengrin

[04Sauzee]

You cant have different laws for different people.

They aren't essential workers then so we should just call the leagues and not allow any football back until every other sector is back at work.

Edit.. Apologies the above sounded angry, didnt mean it to come across that way 😁

[tamig]

I'd say elite sports pros ARE different to the rest of us. They are allowed to operate in an exclusive bubble in which they are regularly tested to enable them to continue with their profession pretty much as normal (just without the crowds). The rest of us are mostly stuck at home, often trying to fit home schooling around work - or worse, fretting about having been made unemployed during this pandemic. By that measure I think footballers should be held to higher standards and Sturgeon is right to put the boot into them.

You just need to look at the animosity towards the top tennis players (not the also-rans) being flown in privately for the Australian Open and 'isolating' in luxury training facilities (while many Australians are still banned from entering the country) to see how out of touch sports professionals can quickly become.

There is no bubble. As soon as they leave the training ground the bubble is burst. What cricket did last summer is a bubble environment.

[Keith_M]

First Minister when asked about alleged breaches of Covid rules by Rangers players. “I feel it’s taking me all my power not to stand here and use expletives when I get asked about football.”


I think she's lost any sense of perspective when it comes to football.

Any The Rangers players present will 1) receive a fine from the authorities for breaching Covid regulations, 2) be suspended by the SFA for however many weeks is appropriate and then 3) they'll definitely be punished by their club as well (same as with the last two).

[blackpoolhibs]

They aren't essential workers then so we should just call the leagues and not allow any football back until every other sector is back at work.

Edit.. Apologies the above sounded angry, didnt mean it to come across that way 😁

That is an option i suppose. :agree:

[Sir David Gray]

This thread raises questions of morality; whether these players deserve the jail etc, how sick we are of this sort of behaviour.

Say for example, it was Lewis Stevenson that had done these things. Would you grass him up to the authorities if you were the delivery driver taking pizzas to his house where there were other players and there girlfriends present? I wouldn’t. But I’d grass up Alan Mcgregor. Or any hun for that matter. And think it was justified and extremely funny.

I suppose that makes me a hypocrite :whistle:

Lewis Stevenson!?

At least make it believable, I'm pretty sure that during the first lockdown, Lewis made sure he didn't go out for more than one period of exercise each day and got his kids to put the big bottle of diet Irn-Bru back on the shelf because it was a non-essential item. :greengrin

[Keith_M]

Lewis Stevenson!?

At least make it believable, I'm pretty sure that during the first lockdown, Lewis made sure he didn't go out for more than one period of exercise each day and got his kids to put the big bottle of diet Irn-Bru back on the shelf because it was a non-essential item. :greengrin


You tell him, SDG!!!!


:greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Lewis Stevenson!?

At least make it believable, I'm pretty sure that during the first lockdown, Lewis made sure he didn't go out for more than one period of exercise each day and got his kids to put the big bottle of diet Irn-Bru back on the shelf because it was a non-essential item. :greengrin

:faf: Agree. I was using Saint Lewis because the improbability of it being him makes it funnier.

I note nobody has been brave enough to answer the question. To grass or not to grass?

[Northernhibee]

:faf: Agree. I was using Saint Lewis because the improbability of it being him makes it funnier.

I note nobody has been brave enough to answer the question. To grass or not to grass?


TBF he's so tough that Coronavirus needed to be vaccinated against Lewis Stevenson.

[ancient hibee]

These guys must be as thick as mince. Living in Glasgow there's an even chance that any delivery man is from the other lot.

[Andy74]

I think she's lost any sense of perspective when it comes to football.

Any The Rangers players present will 1) receive a fine from the authorities for breaching Covid regulations, 2) be suspended by the SFA for however many weeks is appropriate and then 3) they'll definitely be punished by their club as well (same as with the last two).

Agree. When they aren’t with their clubs they are members of the public. We know lots of the public are stupid and not following the rules.

Probably more politicians than footballers been pulled up for it.

[KingPat4]

I would call season null and void. Huns win **** all and Hearts still in Championship.

Well I would if we did not have a strong chance of 3rd place and European footie up till Xmas....,

[Eyrie]

Agree, prison's not there answer.

2 weeks in a quarantine hotel and a suspended 25 point deduction from The Rangers is the way to go :aok:

Suspended until there is a second offence.

As two Sevco players were involved, that provides the second offence and the 25 points must be deducted. In fact, let's make it 30 points for a nice round number.

Of course, deducting points from Sevco would lead to allegations of sectarianism so for balance Celtc must also have 30 points deducted.

And, with this happening despite her warnings after Celtc's holiday camp shennigans, Sturgeon has to make a stand by immediately stopping all football in Scotland for the next four months. The SPFL will then have no choice but to call the Premiership based on points per game as last season, and all promotion/relegation will be cancelled as the second tier hasn't played enough games.

Sorted, and I won't care about the asterisk :greengrin

[Northernhibee]

Suspended until there is a second offence.

As two Sevco players were involved, that provides the second offence and the 25 points must be deducted. In fact, let's make it 30 points for a nice round number.

Of course, deducting points from Sevco would lead to allegations of sectarianism so for balance Celtc must also have 30 points deducted.

And, with this happening despite her warnings after Celtc's holiday camp shennigans, Sturgeon has to make a stand by immediately stopping all football in Scotland for the next four months. The SPFL will then have no choice but to call the Premiership based on points per game as last season, and all promotion/relegation will be cancelled as the second tier hasn't played enough games.

Sorted, and I won't care about the asterisk :greengrin

Hearts should also be deducted 30 points, because they're fannies. Other than that, completely with your plan.

[Basildon Hibs]

......... I doubt that Sturgeon would want to risk the backlash with the Scottish Parliamentary election so close.


Doubt it. Most of the Huns are 'Vichy' Scots... :greengrin

[Pedantic_Hibee]

It was only three Rangers players at the party but James Tavernier turned up when he heard the police were handing out penalties...

[Peanut Shaz]

I was out walking at Musselburgh beach yesterday and saw Rocky walking with another guy - not a Hibs player. Both wearing masks and more than 2 metres apart at all times. It's really not difficult.

[telford hibbee]

10 years should do.
Lie on your quarantine form when arriving in England is punishable with possible £10,000 fine or 10 years in prison. I think it’s excessive but makes me wonder what a suitable deterrent for these prima donnas would be.

[EI255]

If Gerrard went ballistic after the incident a few months ago then he's gonna go into orbit after this.

Scottish Government will rightly hammer them too.

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[Eyrie]

Hearts should also be deducted 30 points, because they're fannies. Other than that, completely with your plan.

Having checked the lower league tables, the amendment is accepted.

[cabbageandribs1875]

dock sevco 20 points and we'll say no more about it








for the time being

[Iain G]

These guys must be as thick as mince. Living in Glasgow there's an even chance that any delivery man is from the other lot.

Who'd have thought the guy delivering Italian food would support Celtic 😁

[scoopyboy]

Who'd have thought the guy delivering Italian food would support Celtic 😁

Yeah, they should have ordered their takeaway from The Orange Wok in Larkhall :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

[Brizo]

I'd say elite sports pros ARE different to the rest of us. They are allowed to operate in an exclusive bubble in which they are regularly tested to enable them to continue with their profession pretty much as normal (just without the crowds). The rest of us are mostly stuck at home, often trying to fit home schooling around work - or worse, fretting about having been made unemployed during this pandemic. By that measure I think footballers should be held to higher standards and Sturgeon is right to put the boot into them.

You just need to look at the animosity towards the top tennis players (not the also-rans) being flown in privately for the Australian Open and 'isolating' in luxury training facilities (while many Australians are still banned from entering the country) to see how out of touch sports professionals can quickly become.

:top marks

Professional footballers are in a hugely privileged position. Work-wise being able to continue their jobs with the financial and mental health benefits that brings. Health wise with the regular COVID tests that workers in the likes of Asda or the Post Office sorting centres don't get. Socially as they get that daily human interaction that a lot of us havent had for a year. And yet that isn't enough for them. Too many of them don't appreciate the advantages they are enjoying over most of us and there's an arrogant entitled mentality among some modern-day players that's staggering.

The Isle of Man sentenced quarantine breakers to 4 weeks in the tin pale. I think Nicola should adopt that for this latest bunch of selfish hun @@@@@.

[Keith_M]

It's not just footballers. The Mayor of Blackburn has just resigned after being caught breaking Covid regulations by attending a wedding indoors with a large group.

He said he 'inadvertently' attended the wedding party in order to aid a delivery of food.


Is the Blackburn Mayor really on such a low wage that he has to deliver Takeaway Curries in his spare time?

[ian cruise]

Who'd have thought the guy delivering Italian food would support Celtic 😁

I'm not convinced about this. If it's youth team players surely a random delivery driver isn't going to look at them and recognise who they are? Id bet half the Rangers fans wouldn't recognise these players if they walked by them in the street.

I accept the business might know if they are regulars but if that's the case, why would they shop them in and lose a regular customer?

More likely to be neighbours fed up with the rules being flouted I'd have guessed.

[JimBHibees]

I'm not convinced about this. If it's youth team players surely a random delivery driver isn't going to look at them and recognise who they are? Id bet half the Rangers fans wouldn't recognise these players if they walked by them in the street.

I accept the business might know if they are regulars but if that's the case, why would they shop them in and lose a regular customer?

More likely to be neighbours fed up with the rules being flouted I'd have guessed.

Yep not sure a delivery driver would put his head above the parapet. Probably neighbours as you say and quite right too.

[Keith_M]

I'm not convinced about this. If it's youth team players surely a random delivery driver isn't going to look at them and recognise who they are? Id bet half the Rangers fans wouldn't recognise these players if they walked by them in the street.

I accept the business might know if they are regulars but if that's the case, why would they shop them in and lose a regular customer?

More likely to be neighbours fed up with the rules being flouted I'd have guessed.



The party went on until 1AM. I'd imagine the neighbours would be pretty p1ssed off with the noise.

I could be wrong, but I presumed the Delivery Driver thing was just intended as a bit of a laugh.

[Smartie]

The party went on until 1AM. I'd imagine the neighbours would be pretty p1ssed off with the noise.

I could be wrong, but I presumed the Delivery Driver thing was just intended as a bit of a laugh.

I live in a flat but I'm not entirely sure I'd notice if my neighbours were playing Monopoly until 1am.

[Mikey]

These guys must be as thick as mince. Living in Glasgow there's an even chance that any delivery man is from the other lot.

Is his name Henderson?

[Topographic Hibby]

Let me check, Celtic have had the guy that went on a mini-break to Barcelona plus the Dubai fiasco. Rangers have had the previous two numpties (now emptied) plus pizza-gate/party-gate. So I reckon Scottish Football has played all its cards here.

Next one and Nicola is gonna say "game's a bogey" and nobody can really blame her and SG to be honest.

[Peevemor]

Let me check, Celtic have had the guy that went on a mini-break to Barcelona plus the Dubai fiasco. Rangers have had the previous two numpties (now emptied) plus pizza-gate/party-gate. So I reckon Scottish Football has played all its cards here.

Next one and Nicola is gonna say "game's a bogey" and nobody can really blame her and SG to be honest.

Are we going to scrap the Westminster & Holyrood parliamenets given that MPs/MSPs have been caught breaking the rules re. Covid?

[Malthibby]

This thread raises questions of morality; whether these players deserve the jail etc, how sick we are of this sort of behaviour.

Say for example, it was Lewis Stevenson that had done these things. Would you grass him up to the authorities if you were the delivery driver taking pizzas to his house where there were other players and there girlfriends present? I wouldn’t. But I’d grass up Alan Mcgregor. Or any hun for that matter. And think it was justified and extremely funny.

I suppose that makes me a hypocrite :whistle:


Much too hard on yourself; I think you have considered the issue at length and come to a fair, reasonably thought out conclusion.
Personally think that the police should use track & trace & throw their whole squad in prison.
GG

[Keith_M]

I live in a flat but I'm not entirely sure I'd notice if my neighbours were playing Monopoly until 1am.


I heard they were playing Snap, which can get a bit heated now and then.

[ancient hibee]

Are we going to scrap the Westminster & Holyrood parliamenets given that MPs/MSPs have been caught breaking the rules re. Covid?


Good idea.

[gbhibby]

Are we going to scrap the Westminster & Holyrood parliamenets given that MPs/MSPs have been caught breaking the rules re. Covid?
Agree, by the way it's all gone quiet on the Kenny Mckaskill front. People in glass houses should not throw stones.

[lord bunberry]

Let me check, Celtic have had the guy that went on a mini-break to Barcelona plus the Dubai fiasco. Rangers have had the previous two numpties (now emptied) plus pizza-gate/party-gate. So I reckon Scottish Football has played all its cards here.

Next one and Nicola is gonna say "game's a bogey" and nobody can really blame her and SG to be honest.
She’s not going to close down football for this.

[The Modfather]

Are we going to scrap the Westminster & Holyrood parliamenets given that MPs/MSPs have been caught breaking the rules re. Covid?

Hopefully. Vive la revolution!

[superfurryhibby]

Are we going to scrap the Westminster & Holyrood parliamenets given that MPs/MSPs have been caught breaking the rules re. Covid?

Good point.

[PatHead]

Agree, by the way it's all gone quiet on the Kenny Mckaskill front. People in glass houses should not throw stones.

Missed that. What did he do?

[Peevemor]

Missed that. What did he do?

He broke a window? :dunno:

[PatHead]

He broke a window? :dunno:

😂

[gbhibby]

Missed that. What did he do?
Look it up he made journeys which broke the rules but his party have said it was OK. The last sentence is a well known proverb.

[silverhibee]

Good point.

It's not really, we need MPs/MSPs to run the country, football was given the green light to go ahead as long as they stuck to new rules that would be introduced for Covid, it was to keep moral up for the British people as we go through tough times, football people get to go to work everyday and some are making big money, they get tested every week, NS will be thinking, football players can't be trusted what chance do I have off opening a football stadium this year, folk bang on about football players should be be role models for folk, something I don't agree with, but when they are caught flouting covid rules it's a kick in the teeth to folk who are abiding by the rules and only getting out the house a few times a week.

I think in Scotland the police have dealt with everyone in the right way who have broke the rules, some have had warnings others have been fined or awaiting court appearance "stupid woman from Paisley" and some have lost there jobs through it, as has been said, neighbors look like they have had enough of the constant partying taking place at this house and phoned the police and grassed them up, if they have been doing that every week and get found out then NS has every right to say, "last warning, anything else and I End the season for you.

[Alfred E Newman]

Are we going to scrap the Westminster & Holyrood parliamenets given that MPs/MSPs have been caught breaking the rules re. Covid?

I'll go with that.

[Juniper Greens]

Look it up he made journeys which broke the rules but his party have said it was OK. The last sentence is a well known proverb.

Not that it belongs on this forum. But he is seeing out lockdown in his family home in speyside. There is nothing against this in the rules at all.

I believe he travelled back to Edinburgh for a doctors appointment on two occasions, which again is not against the rules. Its not comparable at all with the footballers or Cummings

[Peevemor]

It's not really, we need MPs/MSPs to run the country, football was given the green light to go ahead as long as they stuck to new rules that would be introduced for Covid, it was to keep moral up for the British people as we go through tough times, football people get to go to work everyday and some are making big money, they get tested every week, NS will be thinking, football players can't be trusted what chance do I have off opening a football stadium this year, folk bang on about football players should be be role models for folk, something I don't agree with, but when they are caught flouting covid rules it's a kick in the teeth to folk who are abiding by the rules and only getting out the house a few times a week.

I think in Scotland the police have dealt with everyone in the right way who have broke the rules, some have had warnings others have been fined or awaiting court appearance "stupid woman from Paisley" and some have lost there jobs through it, as has been said, neighbors look like they have had enough of the constant partying taking place at this house and phoned the police and grassed them up, if they have been doing that every week and get found out then NS has every right to say, "last warning, anything else and I End the season for you.

If the breech was football related then fair enough, but what they were doing has nothing to do with them being footballers. If the rumours are correct, what about the 4 girlfriends - what do they work as? If one works for a firm of accountants should they be shut down too?

[Juniper Greens]

If the breech was football related then fair enough, but what they were doing has nothing to do with them being footballers. If the rumours are correct, what about the 4 girlfriends - what do they work as? If one works for a firm of accountants should they be shut down too?

You're being stupid. Football is a non-essntial hospitality business that has been given special dispensation to continue to operate.

If the rules that they have been told to operate under are repeatedly broken, it makes sense that any special privilege will be revoked.

Cancelling the season would be awful for the game up here, not just the clubs losing money, but also the international side not having a match fit squad for the summer

[Peevemor]

You're being stupid. Football is a non-essntial hospitality business that has been given special dispensation to continue to operate.

If the rules that they have been told to operate under are repeatedly broken, it makes sense that any special privilege will be revoked.

Cancelling the season would be awful for the game up here, not just the clubs losing money, but also the international side not having a match fit squad for the summer

Stupid? Maybe a bit strong no?

[G B Young]

Let me check, Celtic have had the guy that went on a mini-break to Barcelona plus the Dubai fiasco. Rangers have had the previous two numpties (now emptied) plus pizza-gate/party-gate. So I reckon Scottish Football has played all its cards here.

Next one and Nicola is gonna say "game's a bogey" and nobody can really blame her and SG to be honest.

I thought the 'biggie' was when quite a big bunch of Aberdeen players went out on the town last year? That resulted in games being postponed and Sturgeon implying the next card for football would be a red one. I guess politics comes into play here though and with parliamentary elections coming up in a few months she may not wish to be seen as the meanie who shut down football. As you say, there appear to have been enough subsequent breaches for her to follow through on her threat.

[Keith_M]

You're being stupid. Football is a non-essntial hospitality business that has been given special dispensation to continue to operate.

If the rules that they have been told to operate under are repeatedly broken, it makes sense that any special privilege will be revoked.

Cancelling the season would be awful for the game up here, not just the clubs losing money, but also the international side not having a match fit squad for the summer


But these are not rules continually being broken by the clubs themselves, but fairly isolated incidents by club employees.

If clubs are doing everything they can to abide by the rules, plus the vast majority of players are also doing their bit, then I can't see how it would be fair to punish football as a whole.

[ancient hibee]

You're being stupid. Football is a non-essntial hospitality business that has been given special dispensation to continue to operate.

If the rules that they have been told to operate under are repeatedly broken, it makes sense that any special privilege will be revoked.

Cancelling the season would be awful for the game up here, not just the clubs losing money, but also the international side not having a match fit squad for the summer
I’m afraid you are the one being stupid. The lockdown rules that they broke have nothing to do with the rules that football is operating under but are the rules that apply to us all. So why should the football industry suffer when no other employers would?

[G B Young]

:top marks

Professional footballers are in a hugely privileged position. Work-wise being able to continue their jobs with the financial and mental health benefits that brings. Health wise with the regular COVID tests that workers in the likes of Asda or the Post Office sorting centres don't get. Socially as they get that daily human interaction that a lot of us havent had for a year. And yet that isn't enough for them. Too many of them don't appreciate the advantages they are enjoying over most of us and there's an arrogant entitled mentality among some modern-day players that's staggering.

The Isle of Man sentenced quarantine breakers to 4 weeks in the tin pale. I think Nicola should adopt that for this latest bunch of selfish hun @@@@@.

I think that's the key point, especially for people (like Sturgeon) who are not football fans and are rightly frustrated by the behaviour of a number of football players and clubs (ie Celtic) this season. I don't think it's as simple as saying 'but the clubs have no control over the players once they leave training' and that if they breach the guidance in their own time then they should simply be regarded the same as everyday punters. You have to assume their clubs have drummed home endlessly why it's so important they stick to the rules, but if players can't absorb those warnings then maybe the punishment needs to be taken out of football's hands again (as I think it was after the Aberdeen incident?).

In these unprecedented times I feel especially sympathetic towards kids and young adults who have been unable to enjoy to the full the experience of growing up, but when it comes to footballers who have been able to continue their careers almost as normal I feel it's harder to cut them much slack.

[Peevemor]

I think that's the key point, especially for people (like Sturgeon) who are not football fans and are rightly frustrated by the behaviour of a number of football players and clubs (ie Celtic) this season. I don't think it's as simple as saying 'but the clubs have no control over the players once they leave training' and that if they breach the guidance in their own time then they should simply be regarded the same as everyday punters. You have to assume their clubs have drummed home endlessly why it's so important they stick to the rules, but if players can't absorb those warnings then maybe the punishment needs to be taken out of football's hands again (as I think it was after the Aberdeen incident?).

In these unprecedented times I feel especially sympathetic towards kids and young adults who have been unable to enjoy to the full the experience of growing up, but when it comes to footballers who have been able to continue their careers almost as normal I feel it's harder to cut them much slack.

Do you feel the same about other people who are going out to work, more or less as normal? Should there be zero tolerance for them too or is it just footballers that merit special attention?

[blackpoolhibs]

I’m afraid you are the one being stupid. The lockdown rules that they broke have nothing to do with the rules that football is operating under but are the rules that apply to us all. So why should the football industry suffer when no other employers would?

It is just that simple, why anyone can fail to see it astounds me.

If Asda were failing to put in measures that were not protecting the customers and staff, they would be shut down, they would not be shut down if a couple of their workers went to an all night party with 10 others.

[Peevemor]

It is just that simple, why anyone can fail to see it astounds me.

If Asda were failing to put in measures that were not protecting the customers and staff, they would be shut down, they would not be shut down if a couple of their workers went to an all night party with 10 others.

People seem to need to be outraged.

Everythings either zero or 100%, with nothing in between.

[brog]

Do you feel the same about other people who are going out to work, more or less as normal? Should there be zero tolerance for them too or is it just footballers that merit special attention?

Spot on. Problem is, (I speak as someone with no skin in Scottish politics) NS has boxed herself in a bit with all her tough talk about football earlier. She's like the ref who's handed out an early yellow but is now ignoring worse offences to avoid a red. There's no chance IMO of the season being ended early by a political decision & nor should it be. Anyone working in this pandemic is privileged but it would be ridiculous to close down a business because a few employees have acted like idiots in their own time.

[04Sauzee]

It is just that simple, why anyone can fail to see it astounds me.

If Asda were failing to put in measures that were not protecting the customers and staff, they would be shut down, they would not be shut down if a couple of their workers went to an all night party with 10 others.
Do Asda workers get tested once or twice per week?
Do they have to have dinner with the same people every day?
Asda workers and Footballers aren't the same.

In saying the above im not satying Footballers sjould be dealt with more harshly. I do hkwever believe they are very privileged to be allowed to work when it's not essential they do so

[hibbysam]

Do Asda workers get tested once or twice per week?
Do they have to have dinner with the same people every day?
Asda workers and Footballers aren't the same.

In saying the above im not satying Footballers sjould be dealt with more harshly. I do hkwever believe they are very privileged to be allowed to work when it's not essential they do so

The two questions you pose are quite strange, what difference does it make? If anything, football is doing the government a huge favour by footing the Bill for thousands of tests every week, thus doing a fair bit of work in keeping the virus under control.

[My old man]

The Isle of Man sentenced quarantine breakers to 4 weeks in the tin pale. I think Nicola should adopt that for this latest bunch of selfish hun


Having lived on the IOM (26 yrs) 4 weeks in their “tin pale” is like a wee break 3 square meals the only really famous “homeless” person Ted used to go on a window smashing spree when the bad weather was coming
So not really sure it’s a punishment over there

GG2TH

[blackpoolhibs]

Do Asda workers get tested once or twice per week?
Do they have to have dinner with the same people every day?
Asda workers and Footballers aren't the same.

In saying the above im not satying Footballers sjould be dealt with more harshly. I do hkwever believe they are very privileged to be allowed to work when it's not essential they do so

I dont know why you would ask that question, surely if those folk from Asda were caught out partying all night with 10 others, they should be hit harder as they are not tested twice a week, and dont have the stringent tests footballers have, at their clubs expense?

[Andy74]

Do Asda workers get tested once or twice per week?
Do they have to have dinner with the same people every day?
Asda workers and Footballers aren't the same.

In saying the above im not satying Footballers sjould be dealt with more harshly. I do hkwever believe they are very privileged to be allowed to work when it's not essential they do so

They aren’t really privileged to be working. Most people are still doing their jobs and it is not unusual for those that can’t work at home to go out to work.

[04Sauzee]

They aren’t really privileged to be working. Most people are still doing their jobs and it is not unusual for those that can’t work at home to go out to work.
Well every manager and footballer put in front of a camera tells us every week that they are privileged to be working.

[CropleyWasGod]

Well every manager and footballer put in front of a camera tells us every week that they are privileged to be working.

Footballers say a lot of things that don't mean anything. :greengrin

[04Sauzee]

Footballers say a lot of things that don't mean anything. :greengrin
I have to agree tbh 😁😅

[Brightside]

Hibs at it now..... STOP THE LEAGUE

[percy veer]

I was out walking at Musselburgh beach yesterday and saw Rocky walking with another guy - not a Hibs player. Both wearing masks and more than 2 metres apart at all times. It's really not difficult.

It can't be...can it?

[Peanut Shaz]

It can't be...can it?

I'd be very surprised if it was.....

[gbhibby]

Not that it belongs on this forum. But he is seeing out lockdown in his family home in speyside. There is nothing against this in the rules at all.

I believe he travelled back to Edinburgh for a doctors appointment on two occasions, which again is not against the rules. Its not comparable at all with the footballers or Cummings
When I brought up Kenny Mccaskill there is a public perception that he did break the rules and that it has not been handled by the SNP properly. So it was more of a comment that don't stop others until you get your own house in Order.

[Carheenlea]

I thought the 'biggie' was when quite a big bunch of Aberdeen players went out on the town last year? That resulted in games being postponed and Sturgeon implying the next card for football would be a red one. I guess politics comes into play here though and with parliamentary elections coming up in a few months she may not wish to be seen as the meanie who shut down football. As you say, there appear to have been enough subsequent breaches for her to follow through on her threat.

It’s as if Rangers and Celtic have been granted an indiscretion each, then whoever is next to flout the rules (providing they are non-old firm) they will be the ones to trigger the “Red Card” and the have all the fingers pointing at them.

[Keith_M]

Have the The Rangers players been tarred and feathered yet?


I'm standing outside Ibrox just now with a pitchfork, if anybody's interested in joining me.

[Billy Whizz]

Have the The Rangers players been tarred and feathered yet?


I'm standing outside Ibrox just now with a pitchfork, if anybody's interested in joining me.

They’ll need to announce something soon, as they’ll be flying out for their Europa cup game tomorrow

[G B Young]

Do you feel the same about other people who are going out to work, more or less as normal? Should there be zero tolerance for them too or is it just footballers that merit special attention?

Where did I say zero tolerance? I'm just saying I completely understand why they get more strongly criticised than less privileged members of society.

[CMurdoch]

Spot on. Problem is, (I speak as someone with no skin in Scottish politics) NS has boxed herself in a bit with all her tough talk about football earlier. She's like the ref who's handed out an early yellow but is now ignoring worse offences to avoid a red. There's no chance IMO of the season being ended early by a political decision & nor should it be. Anyone working in this pandemic is privileged but it would be ridiculous to close down a business because a few employees have acted like idiots in their own time.

We are in the middle of a pandemic which has killed circa 7,000 folk in Scotland and humped businesses, livelihoods and education. Journalists given the responsibility of being at government coronavirus briefings decide the most useful and probing questions they can ask the first minister are about stupid young football players unacceptable choices. It's an insult to the gravitas of the issue at hand by the media in a cheap populist attempt to drum up hysteria and headlines. The players have done wrong and they will get theirs legally and through their club and the governing football body. As you say NS should have kept well away from the jobby catalyst that is Scottish football. Government guidance was issued to the football clubs and governing bodies and she should have left them to it with the Police dealing with any related issues as required.

[PatHead]

We are in the middle of a pandemic which has killed circa 7,000 folk in Scotland and humped businesses, livelihoods and education. Journalists given the responsibility of being at government coronavirus briefings decide the most useful and probing questions they can ask the first minister are about stupid young football players unacceptable choices. It's an insult to the gravitas of the issue at hand by the media in a cheap populist attempt to drum up hysteria and headlines. The players have done wrong and they will get theirs legally and through their club and the governing football body. As you say NS should have kept well away from the jobby catalyst that is Scottish football. Government guidance was issued to the football clubs and governing bodies and she should have left them to it with the Police dealing with any related issues as required.

It was all over social media. If she didn't comment it would appear as though she is not bothered. It would send out the wrong message.

Damned if she did. Damned if she didn't.

[CMurdoch]

It was all over social media. If she didn't comment it would appear as though she is not bothered. It would send out the wrong message.

Damned if she did. Damned if she didn't.

The bold bit perfectly describes dealing with the pandemic.
My criticism was aimed at the journalists conduct.
NS has a hellish job and I can't think of anyone who could in reality have made a better job of things.

[PatHead]

My criticism was aimed at the journalists.
The first minister has had a gargantuan job and I can't think of anyone who could in reality have made a better job of things.
A very impressive person.

Sorry picked you up incorrectly. Probably same applies to journalist as well. Editor would have had his guts for garters if didn't.

[CMurdoch]

Sorry picked you up incorrectly. Probably same applies to journalist as well. Editor would have had his guts for garters if didn't.

You're right but it doesn't make it right. Okay, the media heads are to blame :wink:

[ian cruise]

I thought the 'biggie' was when quite a big bunch of Aberdeen players went out on the town last year? That resulted in games being postponed and Sturgeon implying the next card for football would be a red one. I guess politics comes into play here though and with parliamentary elections coming up in a few months she may not wish to be seen as the meanie who shut down football. As you say, there appear to have been enough subsequent breaches for her to follow through on her threat.

Though the club got away with it I think one of the differentiators with the Aberdeen scenario is there must have been chat in the dressing room about heading out for the birthday drinks given the sheer number of them (I'm sure I read it was in their WhatsApp group) so the club could have and should have stepped in and said no.

I had, and still have an element of sympathy for them as it was at a time when pubs were open and you were allowed to meet in small groups (granted they were above that number). They won't have been the only ones meeting outside of training but they were unfortunate enough to get caught up in a general mass outbreak due to the licence premises breaking guidelines.

Players this time round are likely to have arranged quietly off to the side knowing it's not allowed so the blame sits with them, not the club or Scottish football unless evidence comes out to prove otherwise so I think the Government's less hard-line stance of asking them to smarten up rather than threatening to close it down is justified.

[NASAHIBS]

BBC Sport naming the 5 players..."Gerrard confirmed Bongani Zungu, Nathan Patterson, Calvin Bassey, Dapo Mebude and Brian Kinnear are self-isolating"

Mebude is on loan to QOS just now, so already in a sporting 'bubble' with them I'd imagine, then mixing with the other 4, mental!

[Keith_M]

BBC Sport naming the 5 players..."Gerrard confirmed Bongani Zungu, Nathan Patterson, Calvin Bassey, Dapo Mebude and Brian Kinnear are self-isolating"

Mebude is on loan to QOS just now, so already in a sporting 'bubble' with them I'd imagine, then mixing with the other 4, mental!


Fortunately for Rangers, none of those would be a drastic loss to the first team.

I think Zungu has the most appearances between them this season, though I'm not too up-to-date on all things Sticky Bun, so could be wrong.

[Magpie]

BBC Sport naming the 5 players..."Gerrard confirmed Bongani Zungu, Nathan Patterson, Calvin Bassey, Dapo Mebude and Brian Kinnear are self-isolating"

Mebude is on loan to QOS just now, so already in a sporting 'bubble' with them I'd imagine, then mixing with the other 4, mental!

Young players risking their careers for a few beverages. Silly really.

[portohibee]

BBC Sport naming the 5 players..."Gerrard confirmed Bongani Zungu, Nathan Patterson, Calvin Bassey, Dapo Mebude and Brian Kinnear are self-isolating"

Mebude is on loan to QOS just now, so already in a sporting 'bubble' with them I'd imagine, then mixing with the other 4, mental!

Heard Tavernier was also involved, although he only turned up when he heard penalties were being dished out

[Oscar T Grouch]

"I am trying to move forward and focus on the important things," Gerrard told Rangers TV.

So COVID restrictions aren’t important? 😈

[Iggy Pope]

Well every manager and footballer put in front of a camera tells us every week that they are privileged to be working.

Which they definitely wouldn't say if they were brickies, roofers or joiners this past couple of weeks, even if anyone asked them.

[Onceinawhile]

Heard Tavernier was also involved, although he only turned up when he heard penalties were being dished out

I know this is a joke, but it's interesting he's injured now 🤔

[hibbysam]

I know this is a joke, but it's interesting he's injured now 🤔

He’s not.

[heretoday]

I've not heard of any of these Rangers players. Old Firm matters go over my head.

[Siralbertkidd]

So , what are the governing body doing about this?

[Peevemor]

So , what are the governing body doing about this?

What should they do & why?

[Siralbertkidd]

What should they do & why?

My recollection is that when Aberdeen players broke the rules, there was some form of penalty. I would like to see consistancy.

Did another two Rangers players and a Celtic player not get banned as well?

So many celebs just abusing the lockdown, I am losing track. Did Amanda Holden face disciplinary action?

[CropleyWasGod]

My recollection is that when Aberdeen players broke the rules, there was some form of penalty. I would like to see consistancy.

Did another two Rangers players and a Celtic player not get banned as well?

So many celebs just abusing the lockdown, I am losing track. Did Amanda Holden face disciplinary action?

Self isolating in front of Hearts TV for 3 months.

[Keith_M]

...Did Amanda Holden face disciplinary action?


Yeah, they made her re-marry Les Dennis as a punishment.

[ancient hibee]

What should they do & why?


The same as they did with the last two Rangers players?

[JimBHibees]

Yeah, they made her re-marry Les Dennis as a punishment.

:not worth

[Peevemor]

The same as they did with the last two Rangers players?So they might get a ban? Fair enough.

[gbhibby]

What should they do & why?
Not caused postponement of games so the club will punish them. Players need to get a grip, how many times do they need to be telt before it registers.

[CMurdoch]

Yeah, they made her re-marry Les Dennis as a punishment.

That is appropriate and would make me happy :greengrin

[ancient hibee]

So they might get a ban? Fair enough.

Think it was a seven week ban.

[Col2]

Interesting - you can’t even see a mention of the 5 rangers players caught partying on the BBC website. Seems they have moved on like Gerard wanted to. If it was us Tom English would be having a meltdown.

No SFA or SPFL statement. Nothing.

Maybe it didn’t happen🙃🙃

[Keith_M]

That is appropriate and would make me happy :greengrin


"If it's up there, I'll give you the money myself!"


Who could resist chat up lines like that...