Stevie Mallan - Great Start

[Keith_M]

As the previous discussion sadly had to be locked...


Well done Stevie Mallan on your great start in Turkey. That was a fantastic goal.


:thumbsup:



Hopefully he gets some proper game time and (if he comes back to us) he's refreshed and ready to go.

[Carheenlea]

As the previous discussion sadly had to be locked...


Well done Stevie Mallan on your great start in Turkey. That was a fantastic goal.


:thumbsup:



Hopefully he gets some proper game time and comes back to us refreshed and ready to go.

Are we expecting him back? With the option to buy being part of the deal I think we’ve seen the last of Stevie Mallan, whether he stays in Turkey or moves elsewhere. A useful squad member and would rather he was still with us.

[wookie70]

Did he play behind the strikers. It looks like it from the goal which showed the type of player he was for St Mirren. Opportunistic, great strike, drive and a bit of pace. Such a pity he never really got that many games in a position that suits him

[MWHIBBIES]

Did he play behind the strikers. It looks like it from the goal which showed the type of player he was for St Mirren. Opportunistic, great strike, drive and a bit of pace. Such a pity he never really got that many games in a position that suits him

He did, people just don't remember because he didn't do much with those chances.

[Allez Hibs]

As the previous discussion sadly had to be locked...


Well done Stevie Mallan on your great start in Turkey. That was a fantastic goal.


:thumbsup:



Hopefully he gets some proper game time and comes back to us refreshed and ready to go.

Why was the original thread locked?

[The Harp]

Couldn't have asked for a better start for Stevie in Turkey. Hope the move proves to be just what he was needing. Would like to think he'll come back to us a better player at the end of it all. He has too much talent to let slip through our fingers.

[sleeping giant]

Why was the original thread locked?

It's down the page a bit. Why don't you read it ?

[CMurdoch]

Do we have any idea of the option to buy price?

[Since452]

Good player

[DaveF]

He did, people just don't remember because he didn't do much with those chances.

He had some but not played there consistently. Playing as the deep midfielder taking the ball from the defence and doing the dirty work in midfield is where he played most in my recollection and it didn't suit him.

As ever though, this site will bow to your superior knowledge 🙂

[Smartie]

He got a few games in what you’d expect to be his best position and he didn’t set the heather on fire there either.

Mallan frustrated because he clearly had something to offer but just didn’t manage to show it often enough.

I reckon Scottish football was maybe too physical for him - lots of quick, strong players shutting you down. If he played for a team in a league where you got a bit more time on the ball, or in a team where the opposition had to worry about multiple threats then he might show what he’s capable of.

I think it might be a mistake to think that if he shows up well elsewhere that we’d have necessarily ever seen that from him in a Hibs shirt.

I did like the guy and genuinely hopes he can be a success as on his day he’s a great player to watch.

[erin go bragh]

Do we have any idea of the option to buy price?

250 k
Is my guess 😉

[Keith_M]

Are we expecting him back? With the option to buy being part of the deal I think we’ve seen the last of Stevie Mallan, whether he stays in Turkey or moves elsewhere. A useful squad member and would rather he was still with us.


You're right, sorry, I should have said 'if he comes back'.


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[CraigHibee]

Hopefully installs a bit of confidence in him, there is a decent player there imo and he showed that when he first came to us

[Tommy75]

I asked on the other thread before it was closed - was it ever confirmed or rumoured how the loan move came about?

[CraigHibee]

I asked on the other thread before it was closed - was it ever confirmed or rumoured how the loan move came about?

Maybe his agent was putting the feelers out

[LaMotta]

He had some but not played there consistently. Playing as the deep midfielder taking the ball from the defence and doing the dirty work in midfield is where he played most in my recollection and it didn't suit him.

As ever though, this site will bow to your superior knowledge 🙂

:agree::agree::agree:

[DaveF]

Next game is Monday at 4pm. Home to Trabzonspor. Dunno if that's GMT or local time.

[Hibee Mac]

Some revisionist history going on already with Mallan, we can and should be doing better than Mallan in our squad and I assume he's a relatively high earner too.

Not suited to the Scottish top flight I reckon, but let's not make out as if his general poor form for us was the fault of Lennon, Hecky and then Jack Ross.

[MWHIBBIES]

He had some but not played there consistently. Playing as the deep midfielder taking the ball from the defence and doing the dirty work in midfield is where he played most in my recollection and it didn't suit him.

As ever though, this site will bow to your superior knowledge 🙂

He never earned the right to play there consistently, though. Allan did. Mallan got put in wherever we needed someone and never really impressed.

He is okay, and scored some goals but the majority were vs poor opposition and early on in his time here.

Really no idea what the snide last part of your post is about? What is the need for that?

[Pretty Boy]

Mallan is done at Hibs. If his best position is as an advanced midfielder he's behind Murphy by a distance and if Allan gets back to anywhere near his best then behind him as well. He's quite evidently not getting into the team as a deeper midfielder ahead of Gogic, Irvine, Newell or Hallberg.

Sad it didn't work out for him long term here. Hope he does well on his loan but he's not the answer to a problem that doesn't really exist. Best for both parties if he moves on in the summer.

[King Cosell]

next game is monday at 4pm. Home to trabzonspor. Dunno if that's gmt or local time.

gmt

[basehibby]

It's down the page a bit. Why don't you read it ?

Was going slightly off topic but nothing drastic - seemed a bit knee-jerk to close it down (NB - loved the comment "Erdogan couldn't lace Attaturk's boots" - made me laugh anyway).

Ach well - good luck Stevie Mallan - great to see you find your scoring boots again. I think it's fair to say he goes there with the best wishes of the vast majority of Hibees.

[blackpoolhibs]

On the bench after one game and a goal today.

[DaveF]

Came on after 82mins, but they lost 0-2.

[Northernhibee]

Mallan is done at Hibs. If his best position is as an advanced midfielder he's behind Murphy by a distance and if Allan gets back to anywhere near his best then behind him as well. He's quite evidently not getting into the team as a deeper midfielder ahead of Gogic, Irvine, Newell or Hallberg.

Sad it didn't work out for him long term here. Hope he does well on his loan but he's not the answer to a problem that doesn't really exist. Best for both parties if he moves on in the summer.

If we manage to keep a hold of Jackson Irvine then Hallberg is toast too, and I say that as someone who likes him and thinks he's had a very good season.

Competition right now, particularly in midfield, is red hot. If we can add a striker in the summer and another CB/RB then there's not a position on the field that is without competition. Our dip in form coincided with injuries that meant certain players were a guaranteed start, and also worn out at the same time.

I don't think it's coincidental that the return of competition to be, quite frankly, even on the bench, has resulted in a big upturn in form and playing style.

[Lancs Harp]

If we manage to keep a hold of Jackson Irvine then Hallberg is toast too, and I say that as someone who likes him and thinks he's had a very good season.

Competition right now, particularly in midfield, is red hot. If we can add a striker in the summer and another CB/RB then there's not a position on the field that is without competition. Our dip in form coincided with injuries that meant certain players were a guaranteed start, and also worn out at the same time.

I don't think it's coincidental that the return of competition to be, quite frankly, even on the bench, has resulted in a big upturn in form and playing style.

Reference adding players I think we have to bear in mind we are likely to lose Nisbet or Porto or perhaps both in the summer. I agree though it is looking better in midfield, more quality and a far better balance. However having said that any player in any position that improves our current side is a welcome addition.

[Andy74]

If we manage to keep a hold of Jackson Irvine then Hallberg is toast too, and I say that as someone who likes him and thinks he's had a very good season.

Competition right now, particularly in midfield, is red hot. If we can add a striker in the summer and another CB/RB then there's not a position on the field that is without competition. Our dip in form coincided with injuries that meant certain players were a guaranteed start, and also worn out at the same time.

I don't think it's coincidental that the return of competition to be, quite frankly, even on the bench, has resulted in a big upturn in form and playing style.

Don’t see why Hallberg would be gone. Still very reliable cover and hopefully we will be playing lots of games next season.

[jacomo]

If we manage to keep a hold of Jackson Irvine then Hallberg is toast too, and I say that as someone who likes him and thinks he's had a very good season.

Competition right now, particularly in midfield, is red hot. If we can add a striker in the summer and another CB/RB then there's not a position on the field that is without competition. Our dip in form coincided with injuries that meant certain players were a guaranteed start, and also worn out at the same time.

I don't think it's coincidental that the return of competition to be, quite frankly, even on the bench, has resulted in a big upturn in form and playing style.


Competition is good so we should get rid of some players so we don’t have competition anymore??

Only takes a couple of injuries to start looking light again.

[Peevemor]

Good to see that Jack Ross is keeping in touch with him.


Despite heading out on loan, Ross is keeping a close eye on Mallan’s progress.


“When I made the move he got in touch right away to make sure I’d settled in," the midfielder revealed. “Straight after the match on Thursday he sent a text to say congrats on the goal.


“Even though I’m on loan, he still makes me feel part of the squad. The fact he didn’t want me to go made me feel better.



https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/stevie-mallan-wont-rule-out-hibs-return-he-reveals-jack-ross-message-and-speaks-yeni-malatyaspor-loan-3128334

[neil7908]

I'm really interested to see how he is does. I think he play style doesn't suite Scotland. Someone like Gauld springs to mind who's had a decent career in Portugal but didn't look much in his time at Hibs.

[worcesterhibby]

is there any footage of his goal in his first match for Yeni Malatyaspor anywhere ? link ?

[Smartie]

I'm really interested to see how he is does. I think he play style doesn't suite Scotland. Someone like Gauld springs to mind who's had a decent career in Portugal but didn't look much in his time at Hibs.

Yeah, I think I agree.

Mallan frustrated because he clearly has something but I reckon the weaknesses in his game will be exposed too much in Scotland (and England for that matter).

He might find himself very much at home somewhere with a different style of play.

I've found it hard to be critical of him because effort and attitude don't seem to be a problem and he occasionally does very good things indeed. I've just never seen him part of a midfield that played well enough - almost every time he got the start folk were screaming out for he played badly and as a team we struggled.

[Since452]

Good to see that Jack Ross is keeping in touch with him.



https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/stevie-mallan-wont-rule-out-hibs-return-he-reveals-jack-ross-message-and-speaks-yeni-malatyaspor-loan-3128334

Good read that. Good stuff from Ross.

[CMurdoch]

Good to see that Jack Ross is keeping in touch with him.



https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/stevie-mallan-wont-rule-out-hibs-return-he-reveals-jack-ross-message-and-speaks-yeni-malatyaspor-loan-3128334

All very sensible

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

is there any footage of his goal in his first match for Yeni Malatyaspor anywhere ? link ?

https://twitter.com/ccp_sport/status/1357452564221071360?s=21

[CMurdoch]

If we manage to keep a hold of Jackson Irvine then Hallberg is toast too, and I say that as someone who likes him and thinks he's had a very good season.

Competition right now, particularly in midfield, is red hot. If we can add a striker in the summer and another CB/RB then there's not a position on the field that is without competition. Our dip in form coincided with injuries that meant certain players were a guaranteed start, and also worn out at the same time.

I don't think it's coincidental that the return of competition to be, quite frankly, even on the bench, has resulted in a big upturn in form and playing style.

The contracts of mifielders Mallan, Allan & Hallberg are all up in May 2022.
They could all be toast in the next 15 months. Hallberg has been the only 1 of the 3 to be played regularly by Ross this season
Decisions will be made based on how useful they are to the team against their wage, whether we can get cash for them etc.
Jack Ross does things the right way but is pragmatic and ruthless so although Scott Allan is a fans favourite he is struggling for game time and if that continues for the rest of the season he could remain a peripheral figure.

[jacomo]

The contracts of mifielders Mallan, Allan & Hallberg are all up in May 2022.
They could all be toast in the next 15 months. Hallberg has been the only 1 of the 3 to be played regularly by Ross this season
Decisions will be made based on how useful they are to the team against their wage, whether we can get cash for them etc.
Jack Ross does things the right way but is pragmatic and ruthless so although Scott Allan is a fans favourite he is struggling for game time and if that continues for the rest of the season he could remain a peripheral figure.


Scott hasn’t been fit to play this season!

If we stick with this 3-5-2 ish formation then there is a clear role for him in the team, battling with Murphy for that advanced midfield slot.

[CMurdoch]

Scott hasn’t been fit to play this season!

If we stick with this 3-5-2 ish formation then there is a clear role for him in the team, battling with Murphy for that advanced midfield slot.

It will be interesting to see if Ross plays him ahead of Newell, Hallberg etc if the present guys are injured or lose form and whether Murphy stays fit.
The team was fit and really well balanced on Saturday which is what Ross has been building towards.
It looks like a team that can win all it's games before the split.
However, there have to be doubts over Gogic and Irvine for Saturday which will leave a place or places in the midfield.

[King Cosell]

Antalyaspor v Yeni Malatyaspor at 4pm

Wee Stevie's on the bench.

[blackpoolhibs]

Antalyaspor v Yeni Malatyaspor at 4pm

Wee Stevie's on the bench.

Well this is going well for him????

[hibbysam]

Well this is going well for him????

Making a fortune, in the sun, to do what he was doing here anyway. I’d say it was going extremely well.

[blackpoolhibs]

Making a fortune, in the sun, to do what he was doing here anyway. I’d say it was going extremely well.

I very much doubt he's making a fortune, but he will be enjoying the sunbathing

[superfurryhibby]

Mallan moved because he was struggling to get on the pitch at Hibs. Hopefully he does well and gets himself into the starting 11 over in Turkey.

He still hopes to establish himself at Hibs but he’s obviously dropped way down the pecking order at Hibs and is rightly looking to broaden his football horizons and experience something beyond the game over here and down south. Good lad for taking a chance.

He’s got ability but lacks the athletic qualities needed to play for a side aspiring to a top 3 finish here. I would guess that Mallan’s future lies away from ER.

[hibbysam]

I very much doubt he's making a fortune, but he will be enjoying the sunbathing

Rumour has it he’s on far more than he was making it Hibs over there.

[Hibbyradge]

I very much doubt he's making a fortune, but he will be enjoying the sunbathing

If he's enjoying sunbathing, he's one tough cookie.

It's probably warmer here than in Istanbul just now.

[Hibbyradge]

Rumour has it he’s on far more than he was making it Hibs over there.

That's the rumour now, right enough

[007]

Antalyaspor v Yeni Malatyaspor at 4pm

Wee Stevie's on the bench.

Finished 1-1. Mallan came on in the 88th minute. Put 2 crosses in, 1 from a corner and 1 from a free kick, and neither beat the 1st man.

[CMurdoch]

Had problems with my stream near the end of the game and suddenly when it came up in added time I saw Mallan standing over a free kick from the wing.
His teammates lined up in the box only to see the Mallan free kick cut out and the opposition breaking away towards Mallans wing where a Hansen and Miller moment occurred between Mallan and a teammate with an opposition player. Only difference is the teammate took one for the team and took out the opposition player as he headed for goal. The free kick almost resulted in a goal with a header just past the post. Very fortunate for Mallan that he didn't lose the game for his team. His new teams version of hibs.net would have been in melt down with Mohammed and Abdul offering to drive him to the airport :wink:

[CMurdoch]

Rumour has it he’s on far more than he was making it Hibs over there.

He is a Hibs player and is on loan to the team in Turkey.
He will continue to receive his usual wage from Hibs and the Turkish team will pay an agreed fee to Hibs for his services.
That fee may or may not cover all of his wages and may or may not be worth more than that.
Mallan can only make more money if the Turkish team take up their option to buy him at the end of the season and the wage they have agreed with Mallan before the loan started kicks in.
As things stand he has switched the Hibs bench for his new teams bench so unlikely they will take up the option as things stand at this early stage.

[Blaster]

He is a Hibs player and is on loan to the team in Turkey.
He will continue to receive his usual wage from Hibs and the Turkish team will pay an agreed fee to Hibs for his services.
That fee may or may not cover all of his wages and may or may not be worth more than that.
Mallan can only make more money if the Turkish team take up their option to buy him at the end of the season and the wage they have agreed with Mallan before the loan started kicks in.
As things stand he has switched the Hibs bench for his new teams bench so unlikely they will take up the option as things stand at this early stage.

Are you saying Mallan isn’t getting more money just now?

[ancient hibee]

Are you saying Mallan isn’t getting more money just now?

Wouldn't have thought so. The financial agreement in loans is between the clubs.

[Stuart93]

Finished 1-1. Mallan came on in the 88th minute. Put 2 crosses in, 1 from a corner and 1 from a free kick, and neither beat the 1st man.

So to add balance to the thread & why it was started...Stevie Mallan isn’t good enough for us 👀

[Blaster]

Wouldn't have thought so. The financial agreement in loans is between the clubs.

Not what I heard but my info could be wrong

So Kamberi didn’t get more money when on loan at Rangers either then?

[Mr. Wonderful]

Mallan been found out already? Unusual to score a goal and then be left out two weeks running.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not what I heard but my info could be wrong

So Kamberi didn’t get more money when on loan at Rangers either then?

No, he didn't. Mallan will be on same wage as he is here. Its a loan, nothing changes wage wise.

As a future transfer fee is in the loan, terms may have been agreed for a potential contract but as of now, he's on his hibs wages

[et_hibby]

Had problems with my stream near the end of the game and suddenly when it came up in added time I saw Mallan standing over a free kick from the wing.
His teammates lined up in the box only to see the Mallan free kick cut out and the opposition breaking away towards Mallans wing where a Hansen and Miller moment occurred between Mallan and a teammate with an opposition player. Only difference is the teammate took one for the team and took out the opposition player as he headed for goal. The free kick almost resulted in a goal with a header just past the post. Very fortunate for Mallan that he didn't lose the game for his team. His new teams version of hibs.net would have been in melt down with Mohammed and Abdul offering to drive him to the airport :wink:
😀😀👍

[Peevemor]

No, he didn't. Mallan will be on same wage as he is here. Its a loan, nothing changes wage wise.

As a future transfer fee is in the loan, terms may have been agreed for a potential contract but as of now, he's on his hibs wagesI'm guessing here, but could it be possible that the Greek club are paying him expenses on top of his wage? He'll still have his house/flat, car etc. across here and he could be substantially out of pocket if he has to double up on that sort of stuff.

Maybe there is a way he could be pocketing more money.

[MWHIBBIES]

I'm guessing here, but could it be possible that the Greek club are paying him expenses on top of his wage? He'll still have his house/flat, car etc. across here and he could be substantially out of pocket if he has to double up on that sort of stuff.

Maybe there is a way he could be pocketing more money.
Definitely a possibility.

[Unseen work]

I might be wrong but I always thought players wage remained the same when on loan. The only thing that changed was who is playing the wage/ what % of the wage.

The could of course get a signing on type of fee to go there.

I did see that the reports was Mallan was due for a big money move to Turkey which confused me at the time so of course I could be wrong.

Maybe it’s the fee + what he could earn if they signed him permanently.

[Peevemor]

I might be wrong but I always thought players wage remained the same when on loan. The only thing that changed was who is playing the wage/ what % of the wage.

The could of course get a signing on type of fee to go there.

I did see that the reports was Mallan was due for a big money move to Turkey which confused me at the time so of course I could be wrong.

Maybe it’s the fee + what he could earn if they signed him permanently.His contract will be the same so his wage won't change. Expenses paid can though - same with any job.

[Billy Whizz]

Wonder if Stevie is carrying a wee injury
Started the 1st game and scored, then min minutes in the next 2 games

[Centre Hawf]

His contract will be the same so his wage won't change. Expenses paid can though - same with any job.

Not necessarily true. Of course his Turkish club can pay what Hibs are normally paying him to cover his wage for us (plus any potential fee for letting him go) but Mallan could also get a bump in his salary for the duration. It is possible for example for him to get say £3k a week at us but get an extra £1k or £2k on top from the Turkish club as part of an attempt to entice him to go.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Not necessarily true. Of course his Turkish club can pay what Hibs are normally paying him to cover his wage for us (plus any potential fee for letting him go) but Mallan could also get a bump in his salary for the duration. It is possible for example for him to get say £3k a week at us but get an extra £1k or £2k on top from the Turkish club as part of an attempt to entice him to go.

This is the one. Can tell the FM addicts when you see them.

[MWHIBBIES]

This is the one. Can tell the FM addicts when you see them.

That doesn't actually happen on FM, though :greengrin

Cant say I've ever heard of it happening in real life. Loans are pretty much always just the players current wage and the clubs decide who is paying it. Never really heard anything different. Expenses is a good shout, though.

[Mr. Wonderful]

That doesn't actually happen on FM, though :greengrin

Cant say I've ever heard of it happening in real life. Loans are pretty much always just the players current wage and the clubs decide who is paying it. Never really heard anything different. Expenses is a good shout, though.

Aye I know it doesn't, that's my point.

Hope they're not doing so for their sake, though I'm glad we're not paying his wages anymore.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Wonder if Stevie is carrying a wee injury
Started the 1st game and scored, then min minutes in the next 2 games

“Min minutes” is that Doric ? ;)

[SMAXXA]

Not necessarily true. Of course his Turkish club can pay what Hibs are normally paying him to cover his wage for us (plus any potential fee for letting him go) but Mallan could also get a bump in his salary for the duration. It is possible for example for him to get say £3k a week at us but get an extra £1k or £2k on top from the Turkish club as part of an attempt to entice him to go.

This is more accurate than this saying he gets paid same wage,
Loans can also have financial benefits just structured in addition to hibs paying his monthly salary (which the loan club covers % and any loan fee on top)

[Forza Fred]

His contract will be the same so his wage won't change. Expenses paid can though - same with any job.

Pretty sure Kamberi would have been on more money for his period atIbrox than he got at Hibs

[CMurdoch]

Pretty sure Kamberi would have been on more money for his period atIbrox than he got at Hibs

I would have seen him as a Hibs asset that was rented out to Rangers.
That would see the player continue to be paid his contracted rate by his parent club whilst Rangers would pay the agreed rental fee direct to Hibs.

Player power in relation to loans: the clubs can agree the loan and the player can refuse to go.
The only aspect of a loan that a player would negotiate would be the supply of suitable accomodation at the loan club and travel expenses in cases like Mallan where he is playing outside Scotland.
The big negotiation would be if there was an option to buy. In that case the player and agent would, in effect, be negotiating a new contract that would come into being if the option to buy was exercised at the conclusion of the loan period.

Unless that is, someone can enlighten me otherwise.

[MWHIBBIES]

I would have seen him as a Hibs asset that was rented out to Rangers.
That would see the player continue to be paid his contracted rate by his parent club whilst Rangers would pay the agreed rental fee direct to Hibs.

Unless, someone can enlighten me otherwise.

You're correct

[easty]

Pretty sure Kamberi would have been on more money for his period atIbrox than he got at Hibs

Maybe he was, I don’t know, but I don’t see any reason why they’d pay him more? Why would they, when they didn’t have to?

[Centre Hawf]

Maybe he was, I don’t know, but I don’t see any reason why they’d pay him more? Why would they, when they didn’t have to?

They don't have to much like Kamberi didn't have to go to Rangers. If Flo didn't want to go in this scenario there is nothing stopping Rangers offering a bit more money to him for the duration of the loan in order to persuade him. It happens. I don't know if Flo did or if Mallan is getting more but its a very simplistic thing to say "He gets paid X at Hibs therefore he gets X still".

[CropleyWasGod]

They don't have to much like Kamberi didn't have to go to Rangers. If Flo didn't want to go in this scenario there is nothing stopping Rangers offering a bit more money to him for the duration of the loan in order to persuade him. It happens. I don't know if Flo did or if Mallan is getting more but its a very simplistic thing to say "He gets paid X at Hibs therefore he gets X still".

Not sure that this is possible. All players' contracts are lodged with the SFA. If Rangers were paying FK separately, they'd have to disclose that. And I don't think a player can have a contract with more than one team.

For those who are about to jump on me, I know that Rangers have previous with not disclosing contracts 😁

[Centre Hawf]

Not sure that this is possible. All players' contracts are lodged with the SFA. If Rangers were paying FK separately, they'd have to disclose that. And I don't think a player can have a contract with more than one team.

For those who are about to jump on me, I know that Rangers have previous with not disclosing contracts ��

I'm sure I'm going to butcher some technical terms here and maybe over simplify it but when go on loan you have do actually have a separate contract with the loan club, albeit a shorter one. The loan club is just obtaining your registration rights from the parent club for a period of time. The contract you sign is separate from your parent club and while it can be similar or even an exact match, it's not a rule that it has to be a 1 to 1 identical contract.

If you look at a much grander example Kylian Mbappe went on loan to PSG for a season before signing a 4 year deal. But what he negotiated, and signed, was a 5 year contract that included a new salary for the duration of the year he was on loan that would continue (or maybe even alter to his benefit) if it was made permanent, which it was. Mbappe did not leave Monaco on loan for PSG earning the same money he was on at Monaco. He received a substantial increase in his salary.

A bit of an over the top example when discussing Flo and Stevie Mallan but one I think shows the possibilities for how these deals can be structured.

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm sure I'm going to butcher some technical terms here and maybe over simplify it but when go on loan you have do actually have a separate contract with the loan club, albeit a shorter one. The loan club is just obtaining your registration rights from the parent club for a period of time. The contract you sign is separate from your parent club and while it can be similar or even an exact match, it's not a rule that it has to be a 1 to 1 identical contract.

If you look at a much grander example Kylian Mbappe went on loan to PSG for a season before signing a 4 year deal. But what he negotiated, and signed, was a 5 year contract that included a new salary for the duration of the year he was on loan that would continue (or maybe even alter to his benefit) if it was made permanent, which it was. Mbappe did not leave Monaco on loan for PSG earning the same money he was on at Monaco. He received a substantial increase in his salary.

A bit of an over the top example when discussing Flo and Stevie Mallan but one I think shows the possibilities for how these deals can be structured.

Fair do's 😁 I didn't know that.

And well played in equating Mallan with Mbappe😂

[brog]

Fair do's 😁 I didn't know that.

And well played in equating Mallan with Mbappe😂

There's probably a thread on PSG Net criticising Mbappe for being sh*t at tackling!

[CropleyWasGod]

There's probably a thread on PSG Net criticising Mbappe for being sh*t at tackling!

I'm just watching the PSG game. Mbappe is such a lazy get 😂

[CMurdoch]

I'm just watching the PSG game. Mbappe is such a lazy get 😂

PSG! Your such a glory hunter :wink:

[CropleyWasGod]

PSG! Your such a glory hunter :wink:

Shhh. Mallan has just scored his second 😋

Edit... hat trick.

[KWJ]

Would there not be a change in bonuses. I'd think in Kamberi's case he'd have got a far higher goal/win bonus at Rangers. It' s not like he'd have been eligible for a Hibs win bonus.

[Peevemor]

I'm just watching the PSG game. Mbappe is such a lazy get [emoji23]For those who remember Yoann Riou, the guy who did the mental French commentary on our SC win, I've just watched a bit of him commentating from last night and it's hilarious. When PSG score their first, he goes off on "I'm a fat bassa, I eat a load of rubbish, but PSG you make me feel light..."

I'll post a clip when it becomes available.

[Keith_M]

Should I rename this thread to 'How much does Kamberi get paid'?

[King Cosell]

Yeni Malayaspor manager gone "by mutual agreement". They were 2-0 up yesterday, ended up losing 3-2.

[hibbysam]

Yeni Malayaspor manager gone "by mutual agreement". They were 2-0 up yesterday, ended up losing 3-2.

2-0 up until Stevie came on, lost a goal a minute later and went on to lose.

[CMurdoch]

2-0 up until Stevie came on, lost a goal a minute later and went on to lose.

Team winning 2-0 until the 72 minute when they brought Mallan on.
12 minutes later they have lost 3 goals!!!
Taxi for Mallan and the manager.
What that doesn't tell you is the other team had 70% possession and though it took a while the roof eventually fell in

[Keith_M]

2-0 up until Stevie came on, lost a goal a minute later and went on to lose.


So Stevie Mallan coming on made them lose 3-2?

[FilipinoHibs]

So Stevie Mallan coming on made them lose 3-2?

His defensive duties were never very good.

[hibbysam]

So Stevie Mallan coming on made them lose 3-2?

Did anybody say that?

[Vault Boy]

Mallan subbed off on the 46th minute after starting today.

FWIW their fans don't seem happy about that decision, going by what Google translate suggests anyway.

[04Sauzee]

Mallan subbed off on the 46th minute after starting today.

FWIW their fans don't seem happy about that decision, going by what Google translate suggests anyway.

They went down to 10 men early doors, coukd be tactical

[blackpoolhibs]

He might have got more minutes here if he'd stayed. 😁

[04Sauzee]

Starts today

[CMurdoch]

Subbed after 75 mins with his team losing 0-1.
Took their corners and free kicks

[Magpie]

In relation to Mallan being in Turkey, I see that Özil hasn’t been doing so well since he’s been over there.

[MWHIBBIES]

In relation to Mallan being in Turkey, I see that Özil hasn’t been doing so well since he’s been over there.

Na. Fener in general seem a right mess. Ozil not playing in months wont help him either.

[HoboHarry]

In relation to Mallan being in Turkey, I see that Özil hasn’t been doing so well since he’s been over there.

I haven't followed that - what's going wrong?

[Magpie]

I haven't followed that - what's going wrong?

No goal contributions in the 5 appearances he’s made, losing 2 of those games. I came across the ratings he’s received through an app such as whoscored.com and each game he’s been rated in the 6 mark. As MW mentioned above though, the lack of game time will have an effect on that.

[Greenbeard]

Na. Fener in general seem a right mess. Ozil not playing in months wont help him either.
You're not suggesting he needs games to get match fit are you?
:offski:

[Heisenberg]

Scored again today.

[CMurdoch]

Scored again today.

Damn, missed it.
Good goal. Broke beyond the strikers and the defenders didn't bother closing him down. Received ball at the right side of the box and fired it across the keeper into the far corner.

His team have since lost 2 goals and go in at half time 2-1 down!
Stevie gave the free kick away at the edge of the box from which the opposition directly scored their 1st goal

[CMurdoch]

Was 2-2 when a player in Mallans team had a back healer intercepted by the opposition before scoring.
It may have been Mallan whose ackhealer was intercepted :confused:

[lord bunberry]

Was 2-2 when a player in Mallans team had a back healer intercepted by the opposition before scoring.
It may have been Mallan whose ackhealer was intercepted :confused:
I think it was.

[Magpie]

Scored again today.

Well done Stevie.