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Souter96Mac
17-01-2021, 09:33 PM
Hopefully, if Newell is back fit, it could be a tough decision for Ross to make re team lineup for next weekend.
Do you start the same team as yesterday, but swap Newell in for Irvine (if JN is fit)? Do you start Doidge? If so, who drops out? 352 or 442? Will the likes of Allan and Magennis be in the squad for the game?
Don't envy Ross, but have faith in whoever he picks. What would your team be for the Semi final?
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 09:41 PM
Back 4 picks itself. Rocky if fully fit, if not Macey. Nisbet up front, Boyle and Murphy, Newell starts if fit, Irvine starts for me, so then either Gogic or Hallberg for the third spot.
Hibee Mac
17-01-2021, 10:55 PM
Going to be tough considering we have Rangers midweek too and not many options in midfield right now.
I'd be resting players midweek if possible to keep fresh for Saturday, Irvine likely to be needed and it's too much to ask him to jump in and start 3 games in a week
Sir David Gray
17-01-2021, 11:03 PM
Going to be tough considering we have Rangers midweek too and not many options in midfield right now.
I'd be resting players midweek if possible to keep fresh for Saturday, Irvine likely to be needed and it's too much to ask him to jump in and start 3 games in a week
The Rangers game is after the semi final.
hibbysam
17-01-2021, 11:48 PM
Going to be tough considering we have Rangers midweek too and not many options in midfield right now.
I'd be resting players midweek if possible to keep fresh for Saturday, Irvine likely to be needed and it's too much to ask him to jump in and start 3 games in a week
The rangers game is after the semi, and we have plenty midfield options, Gogic, Mallan, Hallberg, Newell, Irvine, Cadden, Wright have all either played in there already, or can play in there.
houstonhibbee
18-01-2021, 02:21 AM
Hopefully, if Newell is back fit, it could be a tough decision for Ross to make re team lineup for next weekend.
Do you start the same team as yesterday, but swap Newell in for Irvine (if JN is fit)? Do you start Doidge? If so, who drops out? 352 or 442? Will the likes of Allan and Magennis be in the squad for the game?
Don't envy Ross, but have faith in whoever he picks. What would your team be for the Semi final?
3-5-2
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Boyle
Irvine
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbet
jingler1954
18-01-2021, 03:14 AM
3-5-2
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Boyle
Irvine
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbet
That is a very strong line up on paper.
Gmack7
18-01-2021, 05:56 AM
3-5-2
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Boyle
Irvine
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbet
I cant see Murphy at LWB. if we olay 352 Doig will play at WB
Northernhibee
18-01-2021, 06:03 AM
I think Hallberg has earned his place in the team tbh.
Unseen work
18-01-2021, 06:10 AM
I’m really not sure what he will do, Newell will come back into the starting 11 but I’m not sure who will miss out.
Hallberg and Gogic put in a power of work against Kilmarnock and we’re both good defensively, putting themselves about and winning the midfield battle. Irvine is clearly lacking match fitness however there’s only one way to improve that, he’s been brought in to play but is it too much of a risk to play him in the semi?
It was our first win in 4 on Saturday, do you change a winning team?
I always think we look more of a threat with 2 up top and Doidge playing, I also think it would cause a lot of problems for St Johnstone’s back line.
Hampden is a big pitch and you imagine will be in good condition which will suit the ball being played on the ground.
Presuming the injuries are still the same as the Kilmarnock team i think we will see
.......................Macey..............
McGinn.....Porteous.....Hanlon......Doig....
...............Gogic...........Newell.......
Boyle................Irvine.................Murphy ......
.......................Nisbet.........
It would be very harsh on Hallberg imo but I think he’ll be hoping to get Irvine up to speed and you could see with some of the things he done on Saturday he’s a goal threat;
Header where he attacked it with aggression and just missed connection
Through ball to Nisbet in first half
Run beyond Nisbet and unlucky that the pass was over hit.
Not sure he will fancy playing 352 at Hampden and leaving potentially a lot of room for St Johnstone to hit us on the counter once Doig etc are bombing on.
blackpoolhibs
18-01-2021, 07:11 AM
I’m really not sure what he will do, Newell will come back into the starting 11 but I’m not sure who will miss out.
Hallberg and Gogic put in a power of work against Kilmarnock and we’re both good defensively, putting themselves about and winning the midfield battle. Irvine is clearly lacking match fitness however there’s only one way to improve that, he’s been brought in to play but is it too much of a risk to play him in the semi?
It was our first win in 4 on Saturday, do you change a winning team?
I always think we look more of a threat with 2 up top and Doidge playing, I also think it would cause a lot of problems for St Johnstone’s back line.
Hampden is a big pitch and you imagine will be in good condition which will suit the ball being played on the ground.
Presuming the injuries are still the same as the Kilmarnock team i think we will see
.......................Macey..............
McGinn.....Porteous.....Hanlon......Doig....
...............Gogic...........Newell.......
Boyle................Irvine.................Murphy ......
.......................Nisbet.........
It would be very harsh on Hallberg imo but I think he’ll be hoping to get Irvine up to speed and you could see with some of the things he done on Saturday he’s a goal threat;
Header where he attacked it with aggression and just missed connection
Through ball to Nisbet in first half
Run beyond Nisbet and unlucky that the pass was over hit.
Not sure he will fancy playing 352 at Hampden and leaving potentially a lot of room for St Johnstone to hit us on the counter once Doig etc are bombing on.
Same size as Easter Road apparently.
Greenbeard
18-01-2021, 07:31 AM
Gogic's performance last two games probably means he is first midfielder on the team sheet.
If fit then Newell for Halberg would be the only change I'd envisage to the starting XI. Giving Irvine the benefit of the doubt and his room for improvement compared to Halberg.
Halberg or Mallan on with 15/20 to go depending on whether we need to protect a lead or come from behind.
houstonhibbee
18-01-2021, 07:42 AM
Gogic's performance last two games probably means he is first midfielder on the team sheet.
If fit then Newell for Halberg would be the only change I'd envisage to the starting XI. Giving Irvine the benefit of the doubt and his room for improvement compared to Halberg.
Halberg or Mallan on with 15/20 to go depending on whether we need to protect a lead or come from behind.
Suddenly spoilt for choice in midfield :aok:
Souter96Mac
18-01-2021, 07:43 AM
I’m really not sure what he will do, Newell will come back into the starting 11 but I’m not sure who will miss out.
Hallberg and Gogic put in a power of work against Kilmarnock and we’re both good defensively, putting themselves about and winning the midfield battle. Irvine is clearly lacking match fitness however there’s only one way to improve that, he’s been brought in to play but is it too much of a risk to play him in the semi?
It was our first win in 4 on Saturday, do you change a winning team?
I always think we look more of a threat with 2 up top and Doidge playing, I also think it would cause a lot of problems for St Johnstone’s back line.
Hampden is a big pitch and you imagine will be in good condition which will suit the ball being played on the ground.
Presuming the injuries are still the same as the Kilmarnock team i think we will see
.......................Macey..............
McGinn.....Porteous.....Hanlon......Doig....
...............Gogic...........Newell.......
Boyle................Irvine.................Murphy ......
.......................Nisbet.........
It would be very harsh on Hallberg imo but I think he’ll be hoping to get Irvine up to speed and you could see with some of the things he done on Saturday he’s a goal threat;
Header where he attacked it with aggression and just missed connection
Through ball to Nisbet in first half
Run beyond Nisbet and unlucky that the pass was over hit.
Not sure he will fancy playing 352 at Hampden and leaving potentially a lot of room for St Johnstone to hit us on the counter once Doig etc are bombing on.
I like the look of that team. Feel sorry for Hallberg, as I think the consistent game time has done him well, and he's starting to put in some good performances. However, Newell is much stronger in the centre than he is, and keeping Irvine in provides us with a goal threat from midfield.
BlackSheep
18-01-2021, 07:59 AM
Same size as Easter Road apparently.
Correct.... will be in better condition than ER of late though.
What excites me for this Semi is that we are free to pick the team we wanna play instead of having to outthink the opposition.... playing St Johnstone allows us to take the game to them 100%. I n past semi finals of late we have had opposing teams who have greater threats than our squad at the time and we have had to set up differently to combat that factor.
It should be great game.... both teams will be going for it for sure.
GreenCastle
18-01-2021, 08:18 AM
Is Newell fit ? Assumed he would be missing for a few weeks ?
Wouldn’t start changing much around.
I think Saints play 3-5-2. They also haven’t beaten us since November 2018.
Hibee Mac
18-01-2021, 08:20 AM
The Rangers game is after the semi final.My bad, nothing to worry about then!
houstonhibbee
18-01-2021, 08:25 AM
Is Newell fit ? Assumed he would be missing for a few weeks ?
Wouldn’t start changing much around.
I think Saints play 3-5-2. They also haven’t beaten us since November 2018.
He he said on Saturday he would likely start training midweek and be available
Allez Hibs
18-01-2021, 08:35 AM
Back 4 picks itself. Rocky if fully fit, if not Macey. Nisbet up front, Boyle and Murphy, Newell starts if fit, Irvine starts for me, so then either Gogic or Hallberg for the third spot.
Back four picks itself? Lewy or Doig?
Will Doig be fit?
roo62
18-01-2021, 08:47 AM
3-5-2
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Boyle
Irvine
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbet
Looks good to me. Doidge has to play now. He needs goals for his confidence and he needs time on the park to do it. His contribution off the bench recently should not be underestimated. He worried the keeper at Celtic Park and Nisbet scored as a result and on Saturday held the ball back to goal and laid off to Gogic to score. I feel we wil get more goals if he is on the park for longer.
The Modfather
18-01-2021, 08:47 AM
Marciano/Macey
McGinn Porteous Hanlon
Doig Magennis Newell Irvine Boyle
Nisbet Doidge
Halberg & Gogic in if Newell & Magennis don’t make it.
HendoDelivered
18-01-2021, 09:19 AM
Macey
McGinn
Hanlon
Porto
Doig
Goga
Irvine
Newell
Boyle
Nisbet
Murph
yerauldda
18-01-2021, 09:37 AM
——————Macey
——McGinn Porteous Hanlon
— -Boyle Newell Gogic Doig
——————Murphy
————Doidge Nisbet
lord bunberry
18-01-2021, 10:30 AM
Newell for Irvine would be the only change for me. If Newell isn’t fit then probably Mallan should play. This is a huge game for us and we can’t afford to have a half fit player in the middle of the pitch. Maggenis might come into consideration if fit, but I’m not sure I’d be starting him either.
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 10:46 AM
Seems like both MacGennis and Rocky returned to first team training today. Great news.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-injury-update-jack-ross-19643186
badabing67
18-01-2021, 10:48 AM
Can anyone remember how St Johnstone setup at ER did they play with 1 or 2 upfront. They have lost McNamara so big plus for us though think they have Kerr back who missed out at ER
Brightside
18-01-2021, 10:51 AM
Can anyone remember how St Johnstone setup at ER did they play with 1 or 2 upfront. They have lost McNamara so big plus for us though think they have Kerr back who missed out at ER
They have been playing 3412.
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 10:54 AM
He he said on Saturday he would likely start training midweek and be available
Personally a wee bit cynical that he can make it hope he does though as he has been very good this season and gives us a lot of quality in that area.
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 10:55 AM
Can anyone remember how St Johnstone setup at ER did they play with 1 or 2 upfront. They have lost McNamara so big plus for us though think they have Kerr back who missed out at ER
Don't think Kerr has played their last couple of games.
badabing67
18-01-2021, 11:01 AM
They have been playing 3412.
Thankx
ahibby
18-01-2021, 11:12 AM
Thankx
I don't see a reason for changing the side that started on Saturday. It would be good to have players like Doig, Newell, Mageniss on the bench for the latter part of the game. For me both Hallberg and Gogic did enough to start the back four pick themselves, and Murphy, Nisbet and Boyle are essential. I think that only leaves the question does Newell get Irvine's place with a view to Irvine coming on later and that's a possibility I suppose.
Since452
18-01-2021, 11:28 AM
Macey doesn't deserve to lose his place. Id be inclined to go for the same team apart from Newell for Hallberg. Hallberg has done nothing wrong either. Difficult one for the manager.
B.H.F.C
18-01-2021, 11:35 AM
Macey doesn't deserve to lose his place. Id be inclined to go for the same team apart from Newell for Hallberg. Hallberg has done nothing wrong either. Difficult one for the manager.
We’ve made the mistake of not going with our number one keeper in a semi final before. Marciano should play if fit.
Unseen work
18-01-2021, 11:43 AM
Who is it on the right of that photo ?
Is it an old photo and it’s one of the Americans? The boy Crawford?
hibbysam
18-01-2021, 11:44 AM
Back four picks itself? Lewy or Doig?
Will Doig be fit?
Doig every day of the week, was our best player before going off at Celtic park, and was very impressive second half again on Saturday. We need his attacking dimension.
Billy Whizz
18-01-2021, 11:46 AM
Who is it on the right of that photo ?
Is it an old photo and it’s one of the Americans? The boy Crawford?
It’s an old photo, dated December
Northernhibee
18-01-2021, 11:49 AM
Marciano
McGinn, P
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Hallberg
Gogic
Boyle
Newell
Murphy
Nisbet
Brightside
18-01-2021, 11:51 AM
Don't think Kerr has played their last couple of games.
Kerr played right of their back 3 last game.
we are hibs
18-01-2021, 12:08 PM
Macey
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Irvine
Gogic
Newell
Boyle
Nisbet
Murphy
Hampden should be a better pitch so we need to get Boyle more involved than he was on Saturday if possible. If they double up on him then go through Murphy. An early goal to settle the nerves would be nice. We need to win this and win this cup. We may not get a better chance than this for years.
Brightside
18-01-2021, 12:49 PM
Assuming they do play a back 3 then we 100% need to play boyle high on their back line. Exploit his pace. Maybe even play him behind the front 2 instead of Irvine. Loads of options now.
Greenbeard
18-01-2021, 12:57 PM
Macey
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Irvine
Gogic
Newell
Boyle
Nisbet
Murphy
Hampden should be a better pitch so we need to get Boyle more involved than he was on Saturday if possible. If they double up on him then go through Murphy. An early goal to settle the nerves would be nice. We need to win this and win this cup. We may not get a better chance than this for years.
That would do nicely thank you.
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 01:04 PM
We’ve made the mistake of not going with our number one keeper in a semi final before. Marciano should play if fit.
Agree, what semi final are you talking about re goalie?
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 01:06 PM
Kerr played right of their back 3 last game.
So he did :aok:
04Sauzee
18-01-2021, 01:10 PM
Agree, what semi final are you talking about re goalie?
I'm guessing last years league cup where Maxwell started and Rocky was on the bench?
happiehibbie
18-01-2021, 01:11 PM
Team for the Semi !
lets look at Saturday 1 up front against a poor side 1 up front does not work IMO
So we,re possibly up against 3 at the back
Macy
P McGinn
Hanlon
Porteous
The above picks its self we have an issue in midfield for me Boyle is not producing enough. I think we need a pressing hard working midfield the thing is do we leave out Boyle Upfront again big Doige has not been performing but is a pest
Midfield
Halberg, Newall, Irvine, Doig Murphy
Nisbet and Gullan
B.H.F.C
18-01-2021, 01:21 PM
Agree, what semi final are you talking about re goalie?
League Cup against Celtic. Laidlaw played instead of Marciano. We were 2-0 down in no time. He was definitely at fault for one and the other was soft as well I think.
happiehibbie
18-01-2021, 01:22 PM
That would do nicely thank you.
yes good attacking team
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 01:22 PM
I'm guessing last years league cup where Maxwell started and Rocky was on the bench?
Ok was Maxwell not first choice at that time? Might also be the one Ross Laidlaw played and had a bit of a mare the year before.
JimBHibees
18-01-2021, 01:23 PM
League Cup against Celtic. Laidlaw played instead of Marciano. We were 2-0 down in no time. He was definitely at fault for one and the other was soft as well I think.
True enough didn't realise Marciano was fit to play not a great decision that
Sioux
18-01-2021, 05:12 PM
I'd be leaving Boyle on the bench. Playing him in the hope that he turns up is too much of a risk. I hear the cries of he could do this and could do that, gamechanger etc and all that stuff, but we've waited too long for him to come good, and the likelihood of that happening attract good odds.
Time for change.
B.H.F.C
18-01-2021, 05:30 PM
I'd be leaving Boyle on the bench. Playing him in the hope that he turns up is too much of a risk. I hear the cries of he could do this and could do that, gamechanger etc and all that stuff, but we've waited too long for him to come good, and the likelihood of that happening attract good odds.
Time for change.
He’s not been brilliant but he’s the only wide player we have who has actually chipped in with a decent number of goals and assists this season. He definitely won’t be left out.
hibbysam
18-01-2021, 05:30 PM
I'd be leaving Boyle on the bench. Playing him in the hope that he turns up is too much of a risk. I hear the cries of he could do this and could do that, gamechanger etc and all that stuff, but we've waited too long for him to come good, and the likelihood of that happening attract good odds.
Time for change.
Up until the Livi and Ross county games he was very good. There’s no way Boyle will be on the bench, more so because we have zero other options for there, but also because he occupies two players leaving space elsewhere.
Greenworld
18-01-2021, 05:30 PM
I’m really not sure what he will do, Newell will come back into the starting 11 but I’m not sure who will miss out.
Hallberg and Gogic put in a power of work against Kilmarnock and we’re both good defensively, putting themselves about and winning the midfield battle. Irvine is clearly lacking match fitness however there’s only one way to improve that, he’s been brought in to play but is it too much of a risk to play him in the semi?
It was our first win in 4 on Saturday, do you change a winning team?
I always think we look more of a threat with 2 up top and Doidge playing, I also think it would cause a lot of problems for St Johnstone’s back line.
Hampden is a big pitch and you imagine will be in good condition which will suit the ball being played on the ground.
Presuming the injuries are still the same as the Kilmarnock team i think we will see
.......................Macey..............
McGinn.....Porteous.....Hanlon......Doig....
...............Gogic...........Newell.......
Boyle................Irvine.................Murphy ......
.......................Nisbet.........
It would be very harsh on Hallberg imo but I think he’ll be hoping to get Irvine up to speed and you could see with some of the things he done on Saturday he’s a goal threat;
Header where he attacked it with aggression and just missed connection
Through ball to Nisbet in first half
Run beyond Nisbet and unlucky that the pass was over hit.
Not sure he will fancy playing 352 at Hampden and leaving potentially a lot of room for St Johnstone to hit us on the counter once Doig etc are bombing on.Thats the team id pick ..perfect line up
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Greenworld
18-01-2021, 05:33 PM
Newell for Irvine would be the only change for me. If Newell isn’t fit then probably Mallan should play. This is a huge game for us and we can’t afford to have a half fit player in the middle of the pitch. Maggenis might come into consideration if fit, but I’m not sure I’d be starting him either.Saw enough to suggest he is more thnn half fit..he will be ahead of mallan ..and newell reckons he will in full training from wed so all good
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S4uzee
18-01-2021, 05:37 PM
Leave Boyle on the bench .... deary me!
We have better players, get our best forward players on the pitch and attack them
Billy Whizz
19-01-2021, 07:25 PM
I know it was in November 2019, but this is the Hibs team from last season Betfred Semi against Celtic. An incredible amount of changes in just over a years
2/3 starters this Saturday at the most
Maxwell
James Jackson Hanlon Stevenson
Horgan Mallan Vela Allan Hallberg
Doidge
Subs
Marciano
Whittaker
Slivka
Boyle
Newell
Naismith
Kamberi
GreenCastle
19-01-2021, 08:10 PM
Got a feeling whoever the keeper is they will need to have a good game.
We have had several semi finals over the years and many keeper performances stand out for various reasons.
I’m hoping our semi final earlier in the season has prepared us what to expect.
I’m hoping Murphy and Boyle are in the mood / get the service to be dangerous as they can be match winners.
GreenCastle
19-01-2021, 08:11 PM
I know it was in November 2019, but this is the Hibs team from last season Betfred Semi against Celtic. An incredible amount of changes in just over a years
2/3 starters this Saturday at the most
Maxwell
James Jackson Hanlon Stevenson
Horgan Mallan Vela Allan Hallberg
Doidge
Subs
Marciano
Whittaker
Slivka
Boyle
Newell
Naismith
Kamberi
James and Vela were like playing with 2 players down.
You could argue the 7on the bench was a stronger group of players.
S4uzee
19-01-2021, 08:30 PM
James and Vela were like playing with 2 players down.
You could argue the 7on the bench was a stronger group of players.
Yeah looking at that, all 7 should’ve been starting
Hibee Mac
19-01-2021, 08:44 PM
I know it was in November 2019, but this is the Hibs team from last season Betfred Semi against Celtic. An incredible amount of changes in just over a years
2/3 starters this Saturday at the most
Maxwell
James Jackson Hanlon Stevenson
Horgan Mallan Vela Allan Hallberg
Doidge
Subs
Marciano
Whittaker
Slivka
Boyle
Newell
Naismith
KamberiThank *** we got rid of Hecky when we did, he was an absolute shocker of an appointment.
He may well have even relegated us
MrRobot
19-01-2021, 08:53 PM
I know it was in November 2019, but this is the Hibs team from last season Betfred Semi against Celtic. An incredible amount of changes in just over a years
2/3 starters this Saturday at the most
Maxwell
James Jackson Hanlon Stevenson
Horgan Mallan Vela Allan Hallberg
Doidge
Subs
Marciano
Whittaker
Slivka
Boyle
Newell
Naismith
Kamberi
Maxwell is one of the worst keepers i’ve seen at hibs in recent years.
Northernhibee
19-01-2021, 08:58 PM
Maxwell is one of the worst keepers i’ve seen at hibs in recent years.
Have you been watching Hibs for around two or three years by chance?
SteveHFC
19-01-2021, 09:23 PM
I know it was in November 2019, but this is the Hibs team from last season Betfred Semi against Celtic. An incredible amount of changes in just over a years
2/3 starters this Saturday at the most
Maxwell
James Jackson Hanlon Stevenson
Horgan Mallan Vela Allan Hallberg
Doidge
Subs
Marciano
Whittaker
Slivka
Boyle
Newell
Naismith
Kamberi
Only game at Hampden I've left early!
MrRobot
19-01-2021, 09:54 PM
Have you been watching Hibs for around two or three years by chance?
i said in recent years, not the entirety of the time i’ve supported Hibs.
I genuinely did not rate him one bit, could not understand at all how he was a regular starter at one point.
Hibee Mac
19-01-2021, 10:08 PM
i said in recent years, not the entirety of the time i’ve supported Hibs.
I genuinely did not rate him one bit, could not understand at all how he was a regular starter at one point.Hecky had a love in for him for some reason. Some managers/coaches seem to take a shining to certain keepers they have brought in.
Since452
19-01-2021, 10:16 PM
Maxwell is one of the worst keepers i’ve seen at hibs in recent years.
Didn't think he was anything better or worse than alright. As average as they come. Seen far worse.
King Cosell
19-01-2021, 11:56 PM
Newell, if fit, in for Gogic. If not, I'd play Mallan.
scotiaf
20-01-2021, 01:28 AM
Marciano must start it fit, however if it went to penalty’s I’d have most keepers apart for Marciano for penalties :)
Bangkok Hibby
20-01-2021, 02:28 AM
Marciano must start it fit, however if it went to penalty’s I’d have most keepers apart for Marciano for penalties :)
So he's not great at saving penalties, doesn't really command his box, has regular, poor distribution and his concentration can be iffy. I'd suggest most people couldn't really argue with that. That leaves a few brilliant stops a season.
Is that it?
I'd go a 442 diamond with attacking wingbacks.
Rocky
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Boyd
Nisbet
Booked4Being-Ugly
20-01-2021, 08:23 AM
I'd go a 442 diamond with attacking wingbacks.
Rocky
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Boyd
Nisbet
I think this will be the team, although i'd swap Boyd for Boyle. :wink:
Greenbeard
20-01-2021, 08:48 AM
I'd go a 442 diamond with attacking wingbacks.
Rocky
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Boyd
Nisbet
Would quite like to see Boyd/Boyle given a free rein to "drop hand grenades all over the place" a la Keegan under Shanks.
MrRobot
20-01-2021, 09:02 AM
Hecky had a love in for him for some reason. Some managers/coaches seem to take a shining to certain keepers they have brought in.
It made no sense to me how he was getting a game, the goals that he conceded were so poor at times. Seemed a nice guy but i was glad to see him leave.
Brightside
20-01-2021, 09:09 AM
Maxwell is one of the worst keepers i’ve seen at hibs in recent years.
Maxwell was a decent keeper.... made a few errors in his time but also had some great games. Very good with the ball at his feet, distribution much better than Rocky.
TheHibernator
20-01-2021, 09:27 AM
Maxwell was a decent keeper.... made a few errors in his time but also had some great games. Very good with the ball at his feet, distribution much better than Rocky.
His distribution was better than rocky's but i think saying he played some great games is being very generous, average at best IMO
Maxwell is one of the worst keepers i’ve seen at hibs in recent years.
Did you see his performance for Blackpool in the cup recently.
number9dream
20-01-2021, 09:34 AM
If Rocky and Newell are fit, then they both go straight back in. Magennis for the bench if he's deemed okay.
It might be a risk to start a rusty Irvine again, although he will have a few more training sessions under his belt.
Irvine is a better bet for getting forward if we go with Nisbet on his own up top though, so it could be that Hallberg drops out for Newell, which gives us more balance with a lefty in there, but is harsh on the Swede, who was good on Saturday and had way more influence on the game than Irvine.
Nisbet is probably better with Doidge up beside him but that makes it harder to get Boyle and Murphy in, without leaving us exposed in central midfield, and those two are pretty much guaranteed starts.
Saints chop and change two or three most weeks but it's usually a 3-5-2. They were good against Dundee United (for a draw) and pretty rubbish against St Mirren (when they won).
Both games against them this season have been even contests and we didn't play well in either.
Need to step it up this time.
MrRobot
20-01-2021, 09:43 AM
Did you see his performance for Blackpool in the cup recently.
Nah, he play well?
MrRobot
20-01-2021, 09:46 AM
His distribution was better than rocky's but i think saying he played some great games is being very generous, average at best IMO
Agree with this, decent distribution but his shot stopping was very poor IMO. Never had any confidence with him in goals.
Nah, he play well?
Yes he did, made some great saves during the game and saved 3 out of 5 in the penalty shoot out against WBA.
My only criticism of him is he's a bit small, decent shot stopper and very good distribution but lacks physicality when it comes to crosses.
MrRobot
20-01-2021, 09:58 AM
Yes he did, made some great saves during the game and saved 3 out of 5 in the penalty shoot out against WBA.
My only criticism of him is he's a bit small, decent shot stopper and very good distribution but lacks physicality when it comes to crosses.
Just watched the highlights but they don’t do enough justice for him, only showed 1 of the penalty saves :greengrin
Maybe i’m being harsh, but i just didn’t see anything in him at his time with Hibs to suggest he was good enough for us. Like i said previously though he came across as a good guy so pleased for him.
Since452
20-01-2021, 10:05 AM
In fairness to Marciano he's made less mistakes this season than he normally does. He's lost his place in the side in previous seasons due to poor form. This season it's down to injury.
Just watched the highlights but they don’t do enough justice for him, only showed 1 of the penalty saves :greengrin
Maybe i’m being harsh, but i just didn’t see anything in him at his time with Hibs to suggest he was good enough for us. Like i said previously though he came across as a good guy so pleased for him.
He was not good enough to be No.1 but was certainly good enough to be a backup and the fact he's playing for Blackpool in League 1 backs that up. He wasn't a poor keeper but in the same breath he was great just somewhere in between.
Since452
21-01-2021, 12:46 PM
A full week of training for the new guys will definitely help with settling in etc. Really think both semis could go either way. Forecast for Glasgow on Saturday doesn't look too bad. Not like last time!
Craig_HFC
21-01-2021, 12:50 PM
Maxwell is one of the worst keepers i’ve seen at hibs in recent years.
Agreed. A goalkeeper that didn't make saves.
hibbysam
21-01-2021, 12:59 PM
Agreed. A goalkeeper that didn't make saves.
Gets praised for his distribution because he could punt a ball into the channels even though he slowed absolutely everything down. The 2-1 home defeat to Hearts was infuriating.
Since452
21-01-2021, 01:10 PM
Gets praised for his distribution because he could punt a ball into the channels even though he slowed absolutely everything down. The 2-1 home defeat to Hearts was infuriating.
True but I've been critical of Marciano for slowing the play down too. I was literally screaming at the tele during the semi against Hearts as his distribution was so slow. Was just playing into Hearts hands.
Billy Whizz
21-01-2021, 01:20 PM
Think the Hibs press conference is today, so should get an update on the likes of Rocky etc
hibbysam
21-01-2021, 01:28 PM
True but I've been critical of Marciano for slowing the play down too. I was literally screaming at the tele during the semi against Hearts as his distribution was so slow. Was just playing into Hearts hands.
It’s something most people criticise Rocky for though, yet praised Maxwell for it.
hibbysam
21-01-2021, 01:29 PM
Think the Hibs press conference is today, so should get an update on the likes of Rocky etc
I’d imagine Ross won’t give anything away, same as before the last semi final.
hibbyfraelibby
21-01-2021, 01:33 PM
Might not be popular but Boyle hasn't been at it for weeks. Maybe drop him to bench and play Cadden from start and use him as an impact sub when they are tiring.
Billy Whizz
21-01-2021, 01:37 PM
Might not be popular but Boyle hasn't been at it for weeks. Maybe drop him to bench and play Cadden from start and use him as an impact sub when they are tiring.
It’s not the occasion to be doing this
Since452
21-01-2021, 02:17 PM
Might not be popular but Boyle hasn't been at it for weeks. Maybe drop him to bench and play Cadden from start and use him as an impact sub when they are tiring.
I think we look a better team without him in all honesty.
B.H.F.C
21-01-2021, 02:22 PM
I think we look a better team without him in all honesty.
When? We’re hardly ever without him. No other wise player comes close to contributing what he has this season, even if he’s not been brilliant.
JimBHibees
21-01-2021, 02:28 PM
It’s not the occasion to be doing this
Absolutely agree actually thought he was coming on to a bit of form in December. He is one of our biggest threats especially if against Tanser who think isn't the best defensively.
JimBHibees
21-01-2021, 02:30 PM
A full week of training for the new guys will definitely help with settling in etc. Really think both semis could go either way. Forecast for Glasgow on Saturday doesn't look too bad. Not like last time!
Wonder what the squad is able to do when weather not great. Suppose artificial pitch an option of clearing and using if snow covered.
hibbysam
21-01-2021, 02:32 PM
When? We’re hardly ever without him. No other wise player comes close to contributing what he has this season, even if he’s not been brilliant.
Takes an absolute battering both on here and in games yet his numbers tell a whole different story (reminds me of James Forrest with Celtic fans). Marked by two players, booted up and down the place, yet still hits decent numbers (think he has about 10 goal involvements this season in the league so far). Boyle Murphy and Nisbet must start, in reality we have maybe one or two spots up for grabs. If they’re all fit Rocky, McGinn, Porteous, Hanlon, Doig, Newell, Nisbet, Murphy and Boyle all start. The other two centre mid slots or one centre mid slot with Doidge are the only questions to be answered.
Pretty Boy
21-01-2021, 03:54 PM
I'd be very wary of starting Marciano.
He's been out with a muscular problem and already pulled out of a squad in the warm up. We can't afford to be subbing a keeper for a pre existing injury during the game in a tie that could go for 120+ minutes.
Macey has looked really assured in the games he has played and appears a more than capable deputy. He's not some untried youngster who is going to be overawed by the occasion either.
Billy Whizz
21-01-2021, 05:08 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55751571
Squad update for Saturday
Greenbeard
21-01-2021, 05:10 PM
I'd be very wary of starting Marciano.
He's been out with a muscular problem and already pulled out of a squad in the warm up. We can't afford to be subbing a keeper for a pre existing injury during the game in a tie that could go for 120+ minutes.
Macey has looked really assured in the games he has played and appears a more than capable deputy. He's not some untried youngster who is going to be overawed by the occasion either.
Was sitting on the fence on this but I agree, given the potential for ET and pens, not just 90 mins. Imagine if Macey has to sub on for Rocky then gets injured himself towards the end of ET. Who's the goalie for the pens? Nightmare scenario. But I'd go Nisbet. Decent height, sharp reactions.
04Sauzee
21-01-2021, 09:33 PM
Some fantastic news about Scott Allan
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/scott-allan-storybook-hibs-comeback-19674871?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
JimBHibees
21-01-2021, 09:34 PM
Was sitting on the fence on this but I agree, given the potential for ET and pens, not just 90 mins. Imagine if Macey has to sub on for Rocky then gets injured himself towards the end of ET. Who's the goalie for the pens? Nightmare scenario. But I'd go Nisbet. Decent height, sharp reactions.
Hopefully we don't get to the stage of putting our top scorer in goals :greengrin
CMurdoch
21-01-2021, 09:57 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55751571
Squad update for Saturday
I see Mackie in the photo in that link which would suggest he is getting close to being fit which would give us a full squad to choose from.
Just a case of getting a few of them up to full speed over the next couple of weeks.
If we can get through Saturday things are looking up for the 2nd half of the season................unless a striker gets injured :wink:
FilipinoHibs
21-01-2021, 10:00 PM
Have people noticed that the Saints have been mouthing off in the press everyday? Little from Hibs which is great. Keep the powder dry for the game.
hibbysam
21-01-2021, 10:08 PM
I see Mackie in the photo in that link which would suggest he is getting close to being fit which would give us a full squad to choose from.
Just a case of getting a few of them up to full speed over the next couple of weeks.
If we can get through Saturday things are looking up for the 2nd half of the season................unless a striker gets injured :wink:
Yeah we’ve had a fairly ***** time of it with injuries recently, to the point where we couldn’t field a full bench. Having options back and available when other teams might lose players from fairly small squads would be a huge bonus.
TheGreenMan
22-01-2021, 09:15 AM
Rocky
McGinn Porteous Hanlon
Boyle Irvine Newall Doig
Murphy
Nisbet Doidge
3-5-2 getting Murphy more central and more involved is how I'd play it
Since452
22-01-2021, 09:56 AM
Have people noticed that the Saints have been mouthing off in the press everyday? Little from Hibs which is great. Keep the powder dry for the game.
They were doing it before our game at Easter Road a while back too.
Since452
22-01-2021, 09:57 AM
This could be the first time we've had a full squad to pick from this season.
scoopyboy
22-01-2021, 10:01 AM
My starting 11.
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Boyle
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Nisbet.
I like Doidge and think he would come on but am sick and tired of seeing our midfield being overrun.
Since452
22-01-2021, 10:04 AM
My starting 11.
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Boyle
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Nisbet.
I like Doidge and think he would come on but am sick and tired of seeing our midfield being overrun.
It's a good point and one i agree with. I think St Johnstone will try and do exactly that and flood the midfield so we'll need to match up.
makaveli1875
22-01-2021, 10:10 AM
Marciano
Mcginn
Porto
Hanlo
Doug
Cadden
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbet
superfurryhibby
22-01-2021, 10:18 AM
My starting 11.
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Boyle
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Nisbet.
I like Doidge and think he would come on but am sick and tired of seeing our midfield being overrun.
I think you’re spot on. I like the look of that line up.
andrew70
22-01-2021, 10:23 AM
My starting 11.
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Boyle
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Nisbet.
I like Doidge and think he would come on but am sick and tired of seeing our midfield being overrun.
I like that team. I too am fed up with our midfield at times.
Opens up some criticism for Jack Ross though if we get beat though.
'Started with far too negative a line up'
One up top in a cup semi final. Playing devils advocate here Scoop not diminishing your thoughts.
I'd go a 442 diamond with attacking wingbacks.
Rocky
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Boyd
Nisbet
My starting 11.
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Gogic
Boyle
Irvine
Newell
Murphy
Nisbet.
I like Doidge and think he would come on but am sick and tired of seeing our midfield being overrun.
I've gone with identical players but with the diamond, I suppose the 2 teams are similar and could flow between the 2 shapes.
Greenbeard
22-01-2021, 10:33 AM
I like that team. I too am fed up with our midfield at times.
Opens up some criticism for Jack Ross though if we get beat though.
'Started with far too negative a line up'
One up top in a cup semi final. Playing devils advocate here Scoop not diminishing your thoughts.
Gogic has been many folks' MoM last two games. He will start. So we'll need more "footballers" in the midfield, hence one recognised striker. It's not negative. In Boyle, and to a lesser extent Murphy, we'd have folk to get forward to support Nisbet. The footballers in midfield just need to move the ball forward into space more swiftly and with more penetration than they have been doing, not taking a few touches and passing it back to Hanlon or Porteous to belt it long.
scoopyboy
22-01-2021, 10:47 AM
I like that team. I too am fed up with our midfield at times.
Opens up some criticism for Jack Ross though if we get beat though.
'Started with far too negative a line up'
One up top in a cup semi final. Playing devils advocate here Scoop not diminishing your thoughts.
I get you Andrew but I don't think it's particularly negative, I see Boyle and Murphy as positive players and I suppose you could restructure the 11 players and make it a 4-3-3. They must do their share of graft in there though.
JimBHibees
22-01-2021, 10:51 AM
I get you Andrew but I don't think it's particularly negative, I see Boyle and Murphy as positive players and I suppose you could restructure the 11 players and make it a 4-3-3. They must do their share of graft in there though.
Agree with your team good mix of pace attacking threat and athleticism. One thing I would say is get shots into Clark in goals as not hugely convinced by him.
hibeejeebies
22-01-2021, 01:25 PM
This could be the first time we've had a full squad to pick from this season.
Yup all being well the bench will look strong tomorrow. Wonder who'll miss out altogether 🤷🏻
bigwheel
22-01-2021, 01:28 PM
how many subs are allowed in the league cup??
The Count
22-01-2021, 01:40 PM
Been impressed with Macey but if fully fit you have to go with the tried and tested Rocky.I am a fan of Ross but its time for him to deliver a win in a big game.
Andy74
22-01-2021, 01:55 PM
Been impressed with Macey but if fully fit you have to go with the tried and tested Rocky.I am a fan of Ross but its time for him to deliver a win in a big game.
Are you suggesting we haven’t won any big games at all?
Since452
22-01-2021, 02:25 PM
Been impressed with Macey but if fully fit you have to go with the tried and tested Rocky.I am a fan of Ross but its time for him to deliver a win in a big game.
This myth seems to be sticking with Ross. What constitutes a big game? Beating Celtic or Rangers? Are we expected to do that? Is Aberdeen and Hearts a big game? He's beaten them both. Semi finals? He's won them too. He's even managed to save teams from relegation and win promotion. Just seems like a stick to beat the manager with when it isn't really the case.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 02:43 PM
This myth seems to be sticking with Ross. What constitutes a big game? Beating Celtic or Rangers? Are we expected to do that? Is Aberdeen and Hearts a big game? He's beaten them both. Semi finals? He's won them too. He's even managed to save teams from relegation and win promotion. Just seems like a stick to beat the manager with when it isn't really the case.
What’s the myth? Two wins in fourteen against the teams you mention. Remove the old firm if you want (although throwing away a two goal lead in one game and failing to beat the reserves in another was disappointing) and it’s two wins in six against the others with some horrific performances. One semi final and one loss.
Thankfully he has a chance to change it and he really has to start doing so tomorrow.
Since452
22-01-2021, 02:51 PM
What’s the myth? Two wins in fourteen against the teams you mention. Remove the old firm if you want (although throwing away a two goal lead in one game and failing to beat the reserves in another was disappointing) and it’s two wins in six against the others with some horrific performances. One semi final and one loss.
Thankfully he has a chance to change it and he really has to start doing so tomorrow.
So he has won big games then?
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 02:52 PM
So he has won big games then?
Who said he hadn’t? No a very good success rate though, is it?
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 02:57 PM
What’s the myth? Two wins in fourteen against the teams you mention. Remove the old firm if you want (although throwing away a two goal lead in one game and failing to beat the reserves in another was disappointing) and it’s two wins in six against the others with some horrific performances. One semi final and one loss.
Thankfully he has a chance to change it and he really has to start doing so tomorrow.
‘Failing to beat the reserves’ 😂 quality stuff. We probably had more influential players missing than they did and a squad worth millions less. Rangers and Celtic might be ‘big’ games for fans but it’s not for the football club, every game bar Hearts and Aberdeen (as our nearest rivals) are as big as each other.
Since452
22-01-2021, 03:03 PM
Who said he hadn’t? No a very good success rate though, is it?
The poster I replied to said he needs to deliver a win in a big game. He has.
04Sauzee
22-01-2021, 03:05 PM
What’s the myth? Two wins in fourteen against the teams you mention. Remove the old firm if you want (although throwing away a two goal lead in one game and failing to beat the reserves in another was disappointing) and it’s two wins in six against the others with some horrific performances. One semi final and one loss.
Thankfully he has a chance to change it and he really has to start doing so tomorrow.
Celtic reserves is another good one
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 03:05 PM
‘Failing to beat the reserves’ 😂 quality stuff. We probably had more influential players missing than they did and a squad worth millions less. Rangers and Celtic might be ‘big’ games for fans but it’s not for the football club, every game bar Hearts and Aberdeen (as our nearest rivals) are as big as each other.
Of course the club see games against them as big games. They’re the games that they get to promote themselves to a national audience. They’re the games that draw the biggest crowds. They’re the games that players want to play in the most. There are plenty other reasons I’m sure
As for the last Celtic game it was pretty clear that the players expected to win when you heard the post match interviews. I actually quite liked the fact that they seemed to see it a missed opportunity rather than think they’d done really well to get a point..
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 03:11 PM
The poster I replied to said he needs to deliver a win in a big game. He has.
The poster said that he had to deliver a win in a big game. Not that he hasn’t done so before.
I agree with that poster. It’s a massive game for Ross tomorrow.
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 03:12 PM
Of course the club see games against them as big games. They’re the games that they get to promote themselves to a national audience. They’re the games that draw the biggest crowds. They’re the games that players want to play in the most. There are plenty other reasons I’m sure
As for the last Celtic game it was pretty clear that the players expected to win when you heard the post match interviews. I actually quite liked the fact that they seemed to see it a missed opportunity rather than think they’d done really well to get a point..
Yet it still gets you the same three points as every other game. Games against Hearts is bigger as it’s a derby, and games against Hearts and Aberdeen bigger as it has a bigger impact on our final position. Celtic and Rangers games certainly aren’t any bigger in our season than County and Motherwell.
Of course it was a missed opportunity the way the game panned out, however it wasn’t Celtic reserves. They’d have been disappointed in the home game as well but that doesn’t mean we played against their reserves! At least 7 starters with another 2 who have been starting for them. That’s not their reserves and like I said, we were missing far more influential players than Celtic were.
Not In The Know
22-01-2021, 03:16 PM
Yet it still gets you the same three points as every other game. Games against Hearts is bigger as it’s a derby, and games against Hearts and Aberdeen bigger as it has a bigger impact on our final position. Celtic and Rangers games certainly aren’t any bigger in our season than County and Motherwell.
Of course it was a missed opportunity the way the game panned out, however it wasn’t Celtic reserves. They’d have been disappointed in the home game as well but that doesn’t mean we played against their reserves! At least 7 starters with another 2 who have been starting for them. That’s not their reserves and like I said, we were missing far more influential players than Celtic were.
The game against Aberdeen in a couple weeks is massive if we want 3rd spot.
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 03:17 PM
The game against Aberdeen in a couple weeks is massive if we want 3rd spot.
I agree, a real big game and one that will have a far bigger impact on our season than Rangers at home next midweek.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 03:22 PM
I agree, a real big game and one that will have a far bigger impact on our season than Rangers at home next midweek.
If the Aberdeen games have a far bigger impact on our season, how come we’re above them in the league having lost to them twice?
Stanton Spence
22-01-2021, 03:40 PM
If the Aberdeen games have a far bigger impact on our season, how come we’re above them in the league having lost to them twice?I think the obvious answer to your question is hibs have played two more games than Aberdeen
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B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 03:41 PM
I think the obvious answer to your question is hibs have played two more games than Aberdeen
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I would have thought that it’s because we have more points to be fair.
scoopyboy
22-01-2021, 03:41 PM
If the Aberdeen games have a far bigger impact on our season, how come we’re above them in the league having lost to them twice?
Are we above them though?
Yes we have more points than them but they have games in hand
Oops, I see someone beat me to the punch.
Stanton Spence
22-01-2021, 03:42 PM
I would have thought that it’s because we have more points to be fair.That as well [emoji23] and its only a point
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hibbysam
22-01-2021, 03:48 PM
If the Aberdeen games have a far bigger impact on our season, how come we’re above them in the league having lost to them twice?
Had we won those two games, or even just one of them, then we’d have been well clear of them. They are our closest rivals therefore points gained against them are of far more importance than the rest. However we’ve been consistent against majority of the rest of the league, we haven’t beat any the top 3 teams yet are still well in contention, hence why the rest of the games are just as important as those against the top teams.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 03:50 PM
Are we above them though?
Yes we have more points than them but they have games in hand
Oops, I see someone beat me to the punch.
We’ve got more points that them so aye. They’ve got two tough away games (Celtic and Livi) in hand as well.
I’m not actually intending to play down the importance of our game against them, it obviously would be a big help if we can beat them.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 03:54 PM
Had we won those two games, or even just one of them, then we’d have been well clear of them. They are our closest rivals therefore points gained against them are of far more importance than the rest. However we’ve been consistent against majority of the rest of the league, we haven’t beat any the top 3 teams yet are still well in contention, hence why the rest of the games are just as important as those against the top teams.
Obviously we’d be further in front if we’d beaten them. Equally, we’d be well behind if we hadn’t taken 9 points from Killie, for example.
You’ve said that points gained against Aberdeen are of far more importance but then go on to say the rest of the games are just as important as those against the top three so I’m a bit confused as to what it is now.
The Count
22-01-2021, 04:03 PM
Lets just stand up grow a pair and win this semi then the bloody Cup even if its means winning ugly.Its very very achievable so lets seal the deal.
scoopyboy
22-01-2021, 04:08 PM
We’ve got more points that them so aye. They’ve got two tough away games (Celtic and Livi) in hand as well.
I’m not actually intending to play down the importance of our game against them, it obviously would be a big help if we can beat them.
Were not going to agree on this are we :greengrin
If the League was called tonight they would finish above us.
Would you settle for a draw on our debate lol
GreenCastle
22-01-2021, 04:14 PM
This is going to be a very difficult game.
Going to have to show real mental toughness and need. Whoever plays in goals can’t have a poor game.
No excuses tomorrow, just get us to the final!
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hibbysam
22-01-2021, 04:14 PM
Obviously we’d be further in front if we’d beaten them. Equally, we’d be well behind if we hadn’t taken 9 points from Killie, for example.
You’ve said that points gained against Aberdeen are of far more importance but then go on to say the rest of the games are just as important as those against the top three so I’m a bit confused as to what it is now.
Every game is important, every game is a big game. But the games against Aberdeen are 6 pointers in where we finish. If we had beaten them it’s a 6 point swing from what it is just now. Kilmarnock aren’t out nearest challenger.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 04:16 PM
Were not going to agree on this are we :greengrin
If the League was called tonight they would finish above us.
Would you settle for a draw on our debate lol
If the league gets called tonight then we can revisit it and I’ll take the draw.
Actually, I’ve just realised Aberdeen play Motherwell tomorrow so we may actually be behind them, in terms of points on the board, before we kick off at Hampden. I can handle that as long as we get the win tomorrow.
lord bunberry
22-01-2021, 04:27 PM
Had we won those two games, or even just one of them, then we’d have been well clear of them. They are our closest rivals therefore points gained against them are of far more importance than the rest. However we’ve been consistent against majority of the rest of the league, we haven’t beat any the top 3 teams yet are still well in contention, hence why the rest of the games are just as important as those against the top teams.
As shocking as those two performances were, looking back on them they weren’t as bad as we thought at the time. Livingston have won 8/10 and Ross County have just pumped our main rivals for 3rd place.
scoopyboy
22-01-2021, 05:18 PM
If the league gets called tonight then we can revisit it and I’ll take the draw.
Actually, I’ve just realised Aberdeen play Motherwell tomorrow so we may actually be behind them, in terms of points on the board, before we kick off at Hampden. I can handle that as long as we get the win tomorrow.
Me too:aok:
JimBHibees
22-01-2021, 05:24 PM
The poster said that he had to deliver a win in a big game. Not that he hasn’t done so before.
I agree with that poster. It’s a massive game for Ross tomorrow.
Massive game for everyone the club, the coaching staff and most importantly the players and fans. No way is it on one person.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 05:41 PM
Massive game for everyone the club, the coaching staff and most importantly the players and fans. No way is it on one person.
Of course it’s huge for everyone involved. But Ross really needs this one IMO.
hibsbollah
22-01-2021, 05:46 PM
Of course it’s huge for everyone involved. But Ross really needs this one IMO.
I’d agree with that. There is a stubborn minority of Hibs fans that just seem unable to take to him. A trophy will make it harder for the case to be made that he can’t get his teams up for the big games. Tomorrow’s huge for him.
superfurryhibby
22-01-2021, 05:47 PM
Massive game for everyone the club, the coaching staff and most importantly the players and fans. No way is it on one person.
Totally agree. It’s a big game for the club, singling out Jack Ross. In particular is bizarre, a bit like arguing we played Celtic reserves and ignoring the fact that they had 9 regular starters in their side.
Unseen work
22-01-2021, 05:52 PM
Even if we win tomorrow there will be plenty on here that claim it wasn’t a big game as “we should be beating St Johnstone”.
Yet the same fans expect us to beat Celtic which going by their logic, shouldn’t happen.
Its a big game tomorrow and will be very difficult, there’s not been much between the sides this season at all.
Couple of big decisions to be made but I can see Marciano and Newell coming in for Macey and Hallberg.
Since452
22-01-2021, 06:11 PM
Even if we win tomorrow there will be plenty on here that claim it wasn’t a big game as “we should be beating St Johnstone”.
Yet the same fans expect us to beat Celtic which going by their logic, shouldn’t happen.
Its a big game tomorrow and will be very difficult, there’s not been much between the sides this season at all.
Couple of big decisions to be made but I can see Marciano and Newell coming in for Macey and Hallberg.
It won't count as it's not Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen or Hearts 😉
Hopefully if we win tomorrow we can put this Jack Ross big game nonsense to bed. Will be very tough though as it always is against St Johnstone.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 06:14 PM
Totally agree. It’s a big game for the club, singling out Jack Ross. In particular is bizarre, a bit like arguing we played Celtic reserves and ignoring the fact that they had 9 regular starters in their side.
Don’t intend to hijack the thread again, but as you’re calling me out as bizarre, maybe you can advise on the 9 regular starters? For reference, only 4 of their starting lineup that night have started half their league games or more this season.
Back to the semi final, I’ll stand by my view that this is huge for Ross. It’s not a case of singling him out, I just think tomorrow is an opportunity to win round a lot of people. And if he doesn’t get the result, criticism will go in to overdrive.
bingo70
22-01-2021, 06:39 PM
It won't count as it's not Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen or Hearts 😉
Hopefully if we win tomorrow we can put this Jack Ross big game nonsense to bed. Will be very tough though as it always is against St Johnstone.
Don’t see how even his biggest fan can argue that his record in big games is poor.
As for the team tomorrow, I’d go with:-
Marciano
Mcginn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Boyle
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbett
bingo70
22-01-2021, 06:45 PM
Don’t intend to hijack the thread again, but as you’re calling me out as bizarre, maybe you can advise on the 9 regular starters? For reference, only 4 of their starting lineup that night have started half their league games or more this season.
Back to the semi final, I’ll stand by my view that this is huge for Ross. It’s not a case of singling him out, I just think tomorrow is an opportunity to win round a lot of people. And if he doesn’t get the result, criticism will go in to overdrive.
You’re correct.
Even if people don’t like it, if we go out tomorrow there’s a big element of our support that won’t be able to look past that.
I might even fall into that category myself, I’m probably not as partisan as some are about it though.
IMO for him to completely lose the reputation he’s got now he needs to win the league cup. Winning tomorrow but losing to Livi or St Mirren in the final won’t help him, especially when there’s no derbies for him to redeem himself.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 06:47 PM
Don’t see how even his biggest fan can argue that his record in big games is poor.
As for the team tomorrow, I’d go with:-
Marciano
Mcginn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Boyle
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbett
I think 10 of them are nailed on to start. It’s whether he goes with Doidge or another midfielder.
Billy Whizz
22-01-2021, 06:57 PM
I think 10 of them are nailed on to start. It’s whether he goes with Doidge or another midfielder.
Only if they are fit
Blaster
22-01-2021, 07:11 PM
I’d go 3-5-2
Marciano (if fit)
Mcginn
Porteous
Hanlon
Cadden
Doig
Gogic
Irvine/Newell
Murphy
Boyle
Nisbet
Unseen work
22-01-2021, 07:19 PM
Don’t see how even his biggest fan can argue that his record in big games is poor.
As for the team tomorrow, I’d go with:-
Marciano
Mcginn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Boyle
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbett
My point is that fans seem to only deem games against clubs with bigger budgets as us as ‘big games’.
There’s plenty games that people have said this is a huge game because blah blah blah - for example when Motherwell were awarded 6 points and within a couple of points of us and playing us next...we went out and won 3-0.
To me fans and players opinions differ on what a big game is. Playing rangers and Celtic is always deemed a big game as they’re bigger clubs, bigger budgets and bring in a lot of fans. But to us as a club is beating them any more important than say beating Motherwell, United or Livingston - the teams chasing us.
Don’t see how even his biggest fan can argue that his record in big games is poor.
As for the team tomorrow, I’d go with:-
Marciano
Mcginn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Boyle
Gogic
Newell
Murphy
Doidge
Nisbett
Nisbet 😜
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 07:22 PM
My point is that fans seem to only deem games against clubs with bigger budgets as us as ‘big games’.
There’s plenty games that people have said this is a huge game because blah blah blah - for example when Motherwell were awarded 6 points and within a couple of points of us and playing us next...we went out and won 3-0.
To me fans and players opinions differ on what a big game is. Playing rangers and Celtic is always deemed a big game as they’re bigger clubs, bigger budgets and bring in a lot of fans. But to us as a club is beating them any more important than say beating Motherwell, United or Livingston - the teams chasing us.
Re that opening sentence, I don’t think there is anyone who wouldn’t think a semi final is a big game. Or any game at Hampden for that matter.
Since452
22-01-2021, 07:24 PM
It's mental folk saying he'll be under pressure if we don't win tomorrow. It'll be dissapointing but we'll move on. Should we just have gone out at the group stages to ease the pressure on himself just incase? Is Robbie Neilson under less pressure because Alloa put Hearts out a couple of rounds ago?
S4uzee
22-01-2021, 07:28 PM
It's mental folk saying he'll be under pressure if we don't win tomorrow. It'll be dissapointing but we'll move on. Should we just have gone out at the group stages to ease the pressure on himself just incase? Is Robbie Neilson under less pressure because Alloa put Hearts out a couple of rounds ago?
There’s only so much fans can keep saying “it’ll be disappointing”. It would be a lot more than that
Heisenberg
22-01-2021, 07:29 PM
It's mental folk saying he'll be under pressure if we don't win tomorrow. It'll be dissapointing but we'll move on. Should we just have gone out at the group stages to ease the pressure on himself just incase? Is Robbie Neilson under less pressure because Alloa put Hearts out a couple of rounds ago?
He won’t be under any pressure for his job if we don’t win tomorrow. It’ll certainly ramp up the posts against him on here and on social media but those in charge will carry on. He’ll only be under pressure from those in charge if we fall apart in the league.
Anyway...team for tomorrow for me
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Boyle
Irvine
Gogic
Newell (Hallberg if not fit)
Doig
Nisbet
Doidge
bingo70
22-01-2021, 07:32 PM
My point is that fans seem to only deem games against clubs with bigger budgets as us as ‘big games’.
There’s plenty games that people have said this is a huge game because blah blah blah - for example when Motherwell were awarded 6 points and within a couple of points of us and playing us next...we went out and won 3-0.
To me fans and players opinions differ on what a big game is. Playing rangers and Celtic is always deemed a big game as they’re bigger clubs, bigger budgets and bring in a lot of fans. But to us as a club is beating them any more important than say beating Motherwell, United or Livingston - the teams chasing us.
I remember seeing someone describing the first game of the season as a must win game. It wasn’t, just like the game against Motherwell the other week wasn’t a big game. If we’d lost that but beat Ross county we’d be in the same position as we are now and nobody would care.
I know what I just said is stating the obvious but for me, and I think the vast majority of people who are talking about him not winning big games are talking about memorable games that you’ll remember in more than 6 months time.
I think there’s a debate to be had about the importance of the big games if we’re doing well anyway and there’s debate to be had if we were maybe unlucky in some of these big games. To pretend games against Hearts, the old firm and Aberdeen aren’t bigger than the likes of Killie and Motherwell is nonsense though.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 07:32 PM
It's mental folk saying he'll be under pressure if we don't win tomorrow. It'll be dissapointing but we'll move on. Should we just have gone out at the group stages to ease the pressure on himself just incase? Is Robbie Neilson under less pressure because Alloa put Hearts out a couple of rounds ago?
Whether you agree with criticism of him or not, there are a lot of folk who will be queuing up to criticise if we don’t win tomorrow. So if we don’t, pressure absolutely builds. I think Ross realises that as well. He knows the expectation is there that we should win this competition.
He won’t lose his job if we lose but there will be a fair number of our support properly disgruntled with him.
bingo70
22-01-2021, 07:34 PM
He won’t be under any pressure for his job if we don’t win tomorrow. It’ll certainly ramp up the posts against him on here and on social media but those in charge will carry on. He’ll only be under pressure from those in charge if we fall apart in the league.
Anyway...team for tomorrow for me
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Boyle
Irvine
Gogic
Newell (Hallberg if not fit)
Doig
Nisbet
Doidge
I really like that team.
If Murphy is fit he has to start though.
Also don’t think Boyle is anywhere near effective at wing back.
Heisenberg
22-01-2021, 07:37 PM
I really like that team.
If Murphy is fit he has to start though.
Also don’t think Boyle is anywhere near effective at wing back.
I’ll be honest I totally forgot Jamie Murphy existed. He’ll definitely start.
superfurryhibby
22-01-2021, 07:38 PM
Don’t intend to hijack the thread again, but as you’re calling me out as bizarre, maybe you can advise on the 9 regular starters? For reference, only 4 of their starting lineup that night have started half their league games or more this season.
Back to the semi final, I’ll stand by my view that this is huge for Ross. It’s not a case of singling him out, I just think tomorrow is an opportunity to win round a lot of people. And if he doesn’t get the result, criticism will go in to overdrive.
Since you know so much about Celtic, you will know the answer already.
I just find it strange that any Hibs fan gives it the Celtic reserve team pish, knowing that 9 of the team Hibs faced that night played in the recent Scottish Cup final. It’s the shan kind of nonsense someone like Frank McAvennie comes out with on the daft show he does with Si Ferry. Personally, I find that bizarre, but you carry on mate, fill yer boots.
Back to the semi final, I mostly think about how Hibs are going to win the game, rather than concern myself about how folk on an internet forum will go into overdrive with criticism for the manager if we lose. I focus on on a more positive approach to supporting Hibs, I recommend that you should try it sometime.
Corstorphine Hibby
22-01-2021, 07:43 PM
I think Macey might start even if Marciano is fit. He looks a more imposing keeper physically than Marciano which can be important if it comes to penalties.
Potty78
22-01-2021, 07:43 PM
Personally think Marciano and Newell will come back in and that's all. I prefer 2 up top but means leaving out Murphy probably as u can't drop Gogic after last week. Tough decisions but at least we have options off the bench!
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 07:49 PM
Since you know so much about Celtic, you will know the answer already.
I just find it strange that any Hibs fan gives it the Celtic reserve team pish, knowing that 9 of the team Hibs faced that night played in the recent Scottish Cup final. It’s the shan kind of nonsense someone like Frank McAvennie comes out with on the daft show he does with Si Ferry. Personally, I find that bizarre, but you carry on mate, fill yer boots.
Back to the semi final, I mostly think about how Hibs are going to win the game, rather than concern myself about how folk on an internet forum will go into overdrive with criticism for the manager if we lose. I focus on on a more positive approach to supporting Hibs, I recommend that you should try it sometime.
Bizarre, strange, pish and nonsense. Constructive feedback, thanks. You’ve still not pointed out the nine regular starters but never mind.
Thanks for your recommendation. I’m not particularly concerned about folk on the internet criticising in any case, I’m sure I’ll cope if they do.
Oh, I actually think Hibs will win tomorrow by the way....
lenny leith
22-01-2021, 07:52 PM
I think Macey might start even if Marciano is fit. He looks a more imposing keeper physically than Marciano which can be important if it comes to penalties.
Correct. I want Macey in goals. If it is penalties then NOT Marciano.
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 07:52 PM
Don’t intend to hijack the thread again, but as you’re calling me out as bizarre, maybe you can advise on the 9 regular starters? For reference, only 4 of their starting lineup that night have started half their league games or more this season.
Back to the semi final, I’ll stand by my view that this is huge for Ross. It’s not a case of singling him out, I just think tomorrow is an opportunity to win round a lot of people. And if he doesn’t get the result, criticism will go in to overdrive.
Hazard has played plenty this season, including their biggest game (the cup final), Frimpong Duffy and Laxalt have started plenty of games this season, Soro Turnbull and McGregor are their first choice central midfield three right now, and Rogic has been a huge player for them for years. They were missing two centre forwards and two centre halves from their usual 3-5-2.
bingo70
22-01-2021, 07:55 PM
Hazard has played plenty this season, including their biggest game (the cup final), Frimpong Duffy and Laxalt have started plenty of games this season, Soro Turnbull and McGregor are their first choice central midfield three right now, and Rogic has been a huge player for them for years. They were missing two centre forwards and two centre halves from their usual 3-5-2.
Your last sentence is quite significant though.
They were very vulnerable at centre half and had nothing up front. That’s pretty important for any team.
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 07:57 PM
Your last sentence is quite significant though.
They were very vulnerable at centre half and had nothing up front. That’s pretty important for any team.
Of course, doesn’t make it a reserve team however with so much quality, value and experience in it. It was weakened absolutely, it wasn’t a reserve side and was always going to be a very tough assignment.
bingo70
22-01-2021, 08:03 PM
Of course, doesn’t make it a reserve team however with so much quality, value and experience in it. It was weakened absolutely, it wasn’t a reserve side and was always going to be a very tough assignment.
I agree.
Wasn’t a reserve side and celtic at Parkhead will always be a touch game.
Anyone that’s suggesting it was a pretty much full strength Celtic team as 9 out of 11 normally start is being a bit disingenuous though. The stats may show those 9 players play regularly but it’s deliberately ignoring where they were very weak that night though.
Billy Whizz
22-01-2021, 08:04 PM
Thread as usual gone off track
My team for tomorrow is only a winning team, nothing else is important
bingo70
22-01-2021, 08:05 PM
Thread as usual gone off track
My team for tomorrow is only a winning team, nothing else is important
Would make a ***** thread if everyone just said that though 😂
Brightside
22-01-2021, 08:06 PM
I’d go 3-5-2
Marciano (if fit)
Mcginn
Porteous
Hanlon
Cadden
Doig
Gogic
Irvine/Newell
Murphy
Boyle
Nisbet
That would be my team too. Boyle pace up top will work very well against their back 3.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 08:12 PM
I agree.
Wasn’t a reserve side and celtic at Parkhead will always be a touch game.
Anyone that’s suggesting it was a pretty much full strength Celtic team as 9 out of 11 normally start is being a bit disingenuous though. The stats may show those 9 players play regularly but it’s deliberately ignoring where they were very weak that night though.
I think people are maybe taking the ‘reserve’ thing a bit literally. Depleted, fringe or whatever.
However, in terms of appearances this season there definitely wasn’t 9 regulars on the pitch for them. Then you look at the likes of the goalie, played 5 or 6 games on the basis of how much they’ve been toiling. He’s never going to be Celtic number one though. Without the isolation maybe four, five tops, would have played.
one day maybe...
22-01-2021, 08:13 PM
I'd be looking at going with the following if i got to pick the team:
4 - 2 - 3 - 1
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Newell
Gogic
Boyle
Irvine
Murphy
Nisbet
#GGTTH
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 08:16 PM
I'd be looking at going with the following if i got to pick the team:
4 - 2 - 3 - 1
Marciano
McGinn
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Newell
Gogic
Boyle
Irvine
Murphy
Nisbet
#GGTTH
Wasn’t sure about Irvine in that role last week. Not really a criticism of him but not sure that’s his position.
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 08:21 PM
I think people are maybe taking the ‘reserve’ thing a bit literally. Depleted, fringe or whatever.
However, in terms of appearances this season there definitely wasn’t 9 regulars on the pitch for them. Then you look at the likes of the goalie, played 5 or 6 games on the basis of how much they’ve been toiling. He’s never going to be Celtic number one though. Without the isolation maybe four, five tops, would have played.
Weren’t Hibs depleted? I’d suggest 6 minimum would’ve played without isolation. Two fullbacks, Duffy, and the three central midfielders. It’s hardly a stick to beat Jack Ross with when we went to parkhead and got a point.
Hibees1973
22-01-2021, 08:24 PM
Thread as usual gone off track
My team for tomorrow is only a winning team, nothing else is important
Agreed...becoming over complicated.
To change the winning team from last week with players not 100% fit would be a risk.
Anyone on here who is confident about tomorrow is delusioned, particularly given our record in recent semi finals.
Another nervy game of fine margins. Hope our key players Nisbet and Boyle show up and play well.
Fingers crossed we win.
B.H.F.C
22-01-2021, 08:27 PM
Weren’t Hibs depleted? I’d suggest 6 minimum would’ve played without isolation. Two fullbacks, Duffy, and the three central midfielders. It’s hardly a stick to beat Jack Ross with when we went to parkhead and got a point.
Thing is, I never really beat him with that stick. Merely said that I thought it was disappointing result. That was based on the circumstances and the way the game went.
one day maybe...
22-01-2021, 08:28 PM
[QUOTE=B.H.F.C;6429991]Wasn’t sure about Irvine in that role last week. Not really a criticism of him but not sure that’s his position.[/QUOTE
Yeah get what your saying, love to see a confident Mallan play there or a fully fit Allan but not sure jack trusts Mallan enough to play him there.
Just hope we don't go 4-4-2 from the start, think it leaves us vulnerable in the middle of the park.
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 08:28 PM
Agreed...becoming over complicated.
To change the winning team from last week with players not 100% fit would be a risk.
Anyone on here who is confident about tomorrow is delusioned, particularly given our record in recent semi finals.
Another nervy game of fine margins. Hope our key players Nisbet and Boyle show up and play well.
Fingers crossed we win.
‘Delusioned’ for being confident of us beating St Johnstone? I’ll look at our record against the Saints this season rather than a Semi Final record.
Billy Whizz
22-01-2021, 08:31 PM
Would make a ***** thread if everyone just said that though 😂
Plenty of discussion to make up a thread, and none of us have been at training this week, and no know who’s fit and been playing
It’s Jack’s call, and all we want is a win
hibbysam
22-01-2021, 08:32 PM
Thing is, I never really beat him with that stick. Merely said that I thought it was disappointing result. That was based on the circumstances and the way the game went.
The circumstances where we played against a side worth many millions more than our team, at a ground we haven’t won at in 10 years, on a day where our manager spent no time with our squad as he was in meetings about the game all day, where we were missing our most creative player and our goalkeeper, and where our best central midfielder had to go off injured. We then went 1-0 down late on. I’d say it was a very good point in the circumstances.
bingo70
22-01-2021, 08:37 PM
Plenty of discussion to make up a thread, and none of us have been at training this week, and no know who’s fit and been playing
It’s Jack’s call, and all we want is a win
Of course.
But in a thread about what team fans would pick for the game, if we all just said, the team that wins. It would defeat the purpose of the thread a bit
It obviously gone off in a tangent a bit but that’s just what happens whether it’s on a message board or mates in a pub talking.
jgl07
22-01-2021, 08:55 PM
‘Delusioned’ for being confident of us beating St Johnstone? I’ll look at our record against the Saints this season rather than a Semi Final record.
I will be confident because of Hibs record against St Johnstone in Semi-Finals!
Blaster
23-01-2021, 03:25 PM
I’d go 3-5-2
Marciano (if fit)
Mcginn
Porteous
Hanlon
Cadden
Doig
Gogic
Irvine/Newell
Murphy
Boyle
Nisbet
Was there a prize? 😀
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